One Piece

>>155862376
Gin is gay?

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Why does everyone feel like a jobber?

These guys are supposed to be some of the biggest names in the world, yet everyone just brushes them aside as jobbers. It feels like no one is relevant any more except the Yonko and admirals.

You know, there would be a lot less shitposting if instead of writing a stupid speedreader post they would open a new tab and read through the entirety of East Blue saga. Or Alabasta. I guarantee half of the shit you faggots complain about are there so it's a mystery that you even made it this far into the manga without dropping it. Luffy vs. Cracker shitposting was a prime example.

>>155862414
>boss hits you with lethal gas because you weren't on board with his plan of stealing a fucking fish-themed boat from their saviors
>take care of him after

>also Pearl

I'm pretty sure that entire crew was gay.

Katakuri should have predicted the new future the moment he decided to shoot the jelly bean.

>>155862457
Big Meme will job, too.

>>155862457
Oda has to move the story along. If he was being true to their power the strawhats would get BTFO to paradise

>>155862515
Why does everyone assume Katakuri can control it?

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Pudding is CUTE and NAKAMA

>>155862554
i want /v/ to leave

Reminder that Doffy would be pirate king if it weren't for luffys plot armour

>>155862593
isn't that a /co/ joke?

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This thread is already giving me cancer, why don't you people wait to post until you have something to say?

>>155862597
You need Poneglyphs to become Pirate King.

>>155862457
It's fallout from jack, people mistook getting btfo'd by a thousand year old collosal elaphant as jobbing.

>>155862457
Because you fell for the Sanji jobber meme to the point that him actually doing something or using haki now makes Katakuri a jobber. So far, Luffy would have been fucked without Jinbe and his fight against Cracker wasn't a cakewalk. What more do you want?

>>155862643
You need to not be in prison too.

>>155862633
Post more of that new nakama.

>>155862597
Does Doffy even want to be Pirate King? Wouldn't that be against his original plan or something?

>>155862663
Why don't they just ride the elephant to big mom's palace and smash her shit in?

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>>155858494

>>155862656
Oda married Sanji off so LuNa could be canon :^)

>>155862752
There's many reasons why that would probably be counterproductive, but also they didn't want to cause an incident originally, the plan was to just grab Sanji and go

>>155862633
These threads are low-key generals, filled with the same regurgitated posts and faggotry. If you want discussion, you'll have to hope an anon engages you in it, and hope even more some shitter doesn't ruin it.

>>155862752
Because

>only momo (so far) can give him orders
>it's vulnerable to cannon fire from ships

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>>155862725
is fanart fine?

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>>155862779
Keep dreaming, faggot

>>155862870
>those hips

More than fine.

>Sanji had to stop Nami's wedding
>Nami has to stop Sanji's wedding
Pottery

>>155862847
>Fishman Island
>Zou
>Big Mom's mixed kids
>Sanji liking the third eye

Oda condones racemixing.

>>155862958
>Nami has to stop Sanji's wedding
This didn't happen tho
Sanji got married

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>>155862958
>Sanji fought Absalom
>Nami will fight Pudding

>>155862870
>chub carrot
I don't think the world would be ready for this level of softness.

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Im defending this arc with my life.
>Best chapter in 3 years or more.

>>155863021
>save muh nakama episode

Unironically the best episodes.

>>155862994
Wrong. Untrue. False. FAKE NEWS!.
Nami didn't let Absalom kiss her because that was going to seal the wedding.
Sanji didn't kiss Pudding so they didn't seal their vows.
With your logic Nami is married to Absalom which is not true

>>155863075
Nami was unconscious?
Sanji said "I do."
it's pretty obvious

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>>155863023
which carrot is better, hips carrot, or stacked carrot?

>>155862621

The whole thing is really just a joke by itself at this point desu

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Anyone ever find themselves masturbating to One Piece figures? They're made way too well, it's like three dimensional softcore porn. It doesn't help that One Piece never gets any good doujins...

>>155862515
He shot the moment he saw the future where the priest missed. He's acting in conjunction with his visions. He'd have seen the future of him missing right after the vision of the priest missing, which happened simultaneously with him firing off his shot.

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Year of Jinbe's death

>>155863315
I masturbate to Goku figurines all the time.

>>155862376
man the art really went to shit

>>155863334
why do people keep saying jinbe will die he won't he is going to be nakama

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So Galette kinda looks like the one guy from the Black Cat Pirates

>>155863438
I dunno it's just weird to get a second new nakama so soon after Carrot.

>>155863201
spitroasted carrot
with thyme, sea salt, and rosemary

>>155863201
I am a hip man so my ansewere would be obvious.
But a nice pair is always wonderful so my answere would be why not both?

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>>155863315
please tell me theres a website where every lewd one piece figure has an entire gallery of different angled shots

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>>155863457
This guy

>>155863457
>>155863501
Must have got his ass handed to him by Ivan.

>>155862034
>>155862127
No, but it showed us that she was living a lie. The background where she was bullied was what broke her.

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>>155863438
He is literally Death Flag: The Character

>>155863575
>LEAVE BIG MOM TO ME

So why are there clones of Luffy wearing Bege hats?

>>155862335
>"I never said she couldn't edit her own memories"
>-kubo

Is this even a thing? Can anon provide us with a link to where Kubo is supposed top have said this.

>>155863111
^this anon speaks the truth.

As I said in the previous thread. It is highly likely that Sanji's marriage is going to be used as a gag where Sanji is being tortured and teased over the fact that he is a married man that will be punished even more severely if he ogles other women. Throw in the fact that Pudding wont be traveling with them, and Sanji will be a married man that can't even snuggle up to his wife. For extra irony, fully redeem Pudding and have her return Sanji's feelings and make her willing to actually kiss him. But, since she doesn't travel with them it will be even worse since he will have a willing wife that he can't be with.

>>155863318
>He'd have seen the future of him missing right after the vision of the priest missing,

Unlikely. He got surprised AFTER Sanji dodged his bean.

>>155863632
Are you new to /a/?

>>155863742
Being Sanji is suffering

>>155863834
Not as much suffering as SaNafaggots

>>155863492
Lewd Carrot's figures when?

>>155863622
They're nice guys

>durr hurr why couldn't katakauri predict this??

it's astounding how many people in this thread don't understand how mantra works. Oda goes through all the trouble of explaining mantra and then the people in this thread are just "wow he couldn't even predict the future"

>>155863632
Its a joke you baka

>>155863896
We thought it was different because of bege's "he can see into the future" line.

I like Carrot!
She is CUTE

Now the big question is: who will Pudding mindfuck and why?

>>155863896
Katakuri's CoO's level is way above mantra though.

>>155863896
I mean he already fucked it up with Katakuri being able to predict what someone says. Like genuine future sight.

Mantra was established as a "predict based on movement" thing, Luffy fucked with Enel by:
A) being completely reactionary to attacks
B) completely random with ricochets

This made sense in not being able to predict the outcome of your own actions. Someone with the future sight that can see what someone will say shouldn't be bothered by the outcome of his own attack like a dodge.
That or he's just talented like Jojo and does it for the ruse.

>Pre-timeskip we had Nami being forced to marry Absalom.
>Now Sanji is being forced to marry Pudding

SaNa confirmed.

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>>155863986
Herself of course

>>155864117
pre and post timeskip nami is not married
post timeskip sanji is married
SaNaposter confirmed retarded.

>>155862893
>implying LuVi isn't the endgame

>>155863457
What was her power again? Butter Logia?

>>155864142
Did Bleach even have self-mindfuck? I know Death Note and Code Geass did.

>>155864303

>Implying Aizen can't alter the readers memories

>>155864155
Sanji didnt kiss = not married.

>>155862376
>Viola
>Trying to win the Sanji

She was just taken aback by how stupidly kind he is. Made it hate that she was working for Doffy. She was practically sucking Ussop off at the end of the arc.

>>155862515
He's only one fucking man.

On a scale of 1-10 how retarded is this strength chart? http://nidaikitetsu.club/index.php/strength-chart/

My rating 8/10

>>155862515
He had a split second to act and didn't spend it predicting the future

>it's a bounties=powerlevel chart

>>155864695
It's a power level chart that uses bounties as representation. it's like roger, dragon etc. are 95, kaido 92 etc. It's still shit though.

>>155864737
There are some characters you cant rank by powerlevel anyway.

People like saying Usopp's the weakest SH but sure maybe in 1v1 close combat with no time to move. But everyone knows how good of a sniper he is and his ammunition is freaking weird and varied.

>>155864264
Or she can just produce and manipulate it since she basically cuffed Nami without being in contact with the substance at all.

Either way I think devilfruits are getting more and more ridiculous. Ministress of Butter's power is producing butter, minister of whipped cream's power is producing whipped cream, minister of candy's power is producing candy etc.

It's all the fucking same shit. Smoothie can make juice and Cracker can make crackers. I'm just waiting for the cheese minister guy to throw cheese at people.

Brulee and Mont D'or have almost the same fucking ability.

The only powers I like in this arc are Big Mom's and Pudding's fruit. Shit even Tamago's weak ass fruit is at least more creative than the other ones.

>>155864834
Forgot that Cheese minister was Mont D'or himself.

Still doesn't make things better.

>>155862893
>Luffy gets with Hancock
>Sanji gets with Pudding

Who will Zoro get and will she follow the trend of being an evil bitch?

>>155865029
Tashigi

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>>155864834
>>155864911

Are there really this many food related devil fruits or are some of them artificial or something?

>>155865074
There is probably one per food type, it's just that Big Mom probably bought / hunted down all of the ones she could get her hands on because she's a glutton.

>>155865029
Perona

>If it weren't for Katakuri, the priest's shooting would serve as the sign to Germa's annihilation.
>But because Katakuri killed the priest, everyone is now confused.

Katakurifags on suicide watch.

>>155865113
I'm still wating for the meat-meat fruit. Luffy would go all crazy for that.

>>155864834
Yeah the DF fruit shit has gotten a little crazy since Dressrosa. I like the artificial zones but holy fuck they had to give everyone in the Doflamingo family a fucking fruit.
Some were just rehash like Miss Valentines again, and some were just retarded and unnecessary.

I'm fine with using fruits to create neat characters, but I mean how many people even remember that Leo is a DF user, honestly? What the fuck does the stitch fruit even do that the string fruit doesn't?

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>>155865068
>>155865221
Both

>>155865029
Monet.

>double chapter
>there's only 1 chapter
Explain this

>>155865365
To be fair having shittier variants has always been a thing as sucky as it is. Like springs are effectively a worse version of rubber in practice, or snow vs ice, or magma vs fire

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ODA, WHERE'S MY NIGGA ZORO?

>>155864303
Kinda. Tsuishima changed Ginjo's past as a part of Ginjo's (really, really dumb) keikaku.

>>155865276
Holy shit. hadn't realised this at all lol. Just one word to describe this arc: CHAOS

So are all 1 billion beri pirates jobbers? Is it an jobber bounty?

>>155864515
This. Also Sanji shouldn't be underestimated. He might not be as strong as Luffy or Zoro but he's also trained over the timeskip. His CoO is likely good enough to outpredict Katakuri and dodge.

>>155865479
Springs are cool, Bellamy is just a jobber.

>>155865492
Exactly. Pudding messed up the plan, so priest took over. Now Katakuri killed priest so there's no one left to give the signal. Big Mom's crew will be confused as fuck and there's also Luffy coming out the cake and the box that might explode to consider. Big Mom's plan already went to shit a hundred different ways.

>>155863575
Jinbe's character gag is that he always has deathflags, but they never occur.

>>155865516
Oda said before that Haki users always have a forte that they lean towards.

Luffy is strong with CoC
Zoro is strong with CoA
Sanji is strong with CoO

It's very possible that Sanji has better CoO than any of his crewmates but it never shined until now because CoO is generally worse than CoA.

So why is no one talking about the plan the YONKO made about SHOOTING the entire vinsmoke family and the straw hats.

Can the Vinsmoke even die by bullets? They're modified super humans. Everyone else there is ungodly strong in their own way, why would a bullet kill anyone?
Why not gather everyone up and Big Mom unleashes a huge attack or something? Who the fu k actually dies by a gunshot in One Piece?

>>155865558
You're forgetting that the priest did fire his gun as he died which signaled Luffy to enter the stage. The Big Mom pirates are just confused because
>Pudding didn't shoot Sanji
>Sanji dodged Katakuri's jellybean
>a bunch of Luffys came out of the cake

>>155865582
How can you be "strong" with CoC? Either you have it or you don't have it.

If anything Luffy specialized more in CoA.

>>155865582
Pretty sure Usopp is going to have the strongest CoO.
I mean, he saw miles away into a small window and sniped Sugar afterall. Way more impressive than Sanji dodging a bullet or two.

Also Zoro with the strongest CoA? That's Luffy, unless you're implying Zoro can cut through Gear 4.

>>155865600
Did you forget about that special ammo Pudding used on Reiju? Yeah they probably have more of these.

>>155865600
Actually One Piece is one of those rare shonens where guns are actually dangerous. Whitebeard died from gunshot wounds. Zephyr defeated Luffy by shooting him (Movie Z). Bellmere died from Arlong's handgun.

>>155865641
>Also Zoro with the strongest CoA? That's Luffy, unless you're implying Zoro can cut through Gear 4.
If Cracker could, I have no doubt Zoro can.

I can't wait to see how pissed Big Mom will be by the end of this arc.

>ruined plans
>ate her cake
>presumably will attack the mother caramel photo

>>155865600
>speedreading

or

>reading week by week and forgetting

Pudding shot Reiju and it wounded her. Pudding later on talked to big Mom and confirmed the special candy(?) rounds they were using worked.

Also characters do die from guns, just in flashbacks because no one but a select few die in One Piece. In fact, it's usually a sign when things get serious if it's not being fired at Luffy.

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>>155865620
>>155865641
http://onepiece.wikia.com/wiki/SBS_Volume_71

D: This might be out of nowhere, but who in the Straw Hat Pirates can use Haki? It's bothering me and I can't activate my "Love Hurricane".

O: It's these three. Their specialty haki color is in the parentheses.
Luffy (Haoshoku Haki), Zoro (Busoshoku Haki), Sanji (Kenbunshoku Haki)


Oda already explained that haki users have a specialty and only the monster trio is able to use haki. This was before Usopp's awakening by the way so now we have 4 straw hats who are able to use haki.

>>155865685
Cracker had stronger CoA than Doflamingo.

>>155865656
Don't forget Rosinante.

Devil fruit concept generally vastly changed since TB. Before, you could know what to expect once you learned what the power is (outside of suna-suna which had few surprises). But then Moria happened, Perona happened, Kuma happened in the same arc. I'm not really complaining that much since all three mentioned gave us some of the best scenes in the series but it's noteworthy (and Doflamingo's clones wee retarded idea, which didn't amount to anything good).

>>155865716
Doffy just was trying to cut with string, which is not as sharp or effective at cutting as a blade. Zoro uses blades like Cracker, and specialises in CoA so their effect on Luffy should be akin.

>>155865711
Yeah, and now we know that Usopp has better CoO.

Sanji is probably going to be a hybrid, I can't see Oda giving Sanji superior environmental senses when Usopp is the sniper.

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>>155865711
>Robin will never learn CoA and start pulling some Bayonetta shit

>>155865732
I think it's pretty good thematically considering it's right after Enies Lobby. At least for some of them. Luffy had just expanded on his fruit's abilities with Gear 2 and 3 so it would make sense that someone at a similar level of strength or greater could learn to make their paramecia do all kinds of shit. Especially if they're in their 40s which most of these guys are.

>>155865620
>How can you be "strong" with CoC? Either you have it or you don't have it.
Not really, the stronger your CoC is, the gutsier people you can take out (Oda once said in an SBS that perhaps Shanks could take out all the enemies in FI himself).

>>155865711
It should be noted however that just because they specialize in something doesn't mean that they are better in it than the rest of the three. For example Sanji probably wasn't trained in Haki, so it's possible he is generally weaker at it than the rest (there's no confirmation though). Or Luffy can have the strongest CoA, who knows.

welp, Pudding confirmed for nakama. Show's over.

>>155865775
Luffy = CoC, CoA, CoO
Zoro = CoA, CoO (and eventually CoC)
Sanji = CoO, CoA
Jinbe = Nil
Franky = Nil
Brook = CoA or Nil
Robin = CoO or Nil
Chopper = Nil
Usopp = CoO
Nami = Nil

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>>155865276
You could say that Katakuri jumped the gun.

>>155865870
No, she married Sanji so she can't become nakama. All wives and girlfriends of the Straw hat crew stay at home so they don't get in the way of the story.

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>>155865711
yes, observation haki is sanji's specialty. it's not zoro's specialty, and yet because zoro is much stronger than sanji, he has much better observation haki. people are actually saying that zoro couldn't have dodged the shot, pure delusion.

>>155865732

No shit. Ever since Crocodile there's been a growing focus on being able to do more with your fruit instead of just following the obvious powersets.

Sometimes it's done badly (Birdcage) but it's hardly something new.

>>155865877
In English please

>>155865946
There's a clear difference between Luffy's gears being creative use of his power (which kinda make sense in fantasy universe) and Perona's fruit which is basically bunch of different abilities stack onto each other.

>>155865600
Candy bullets. They worked on Reiju, which is not actually a guarantee that they'll work on the others, since she's a prototype.

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>>155863457
Don't diss Galette.

>>155862376
If Big Mom was this easy to kill, Akainu would have killed Big Mom during the timeskip.

Honestly, with Oda's bad writing these days, it seems really silly how the Marines haven't been curbstomping everything.

Was Sengoku just a lazy ass or something?

>>155865516
Sanji's training was literally running around for two years.

Sanji didn't even learn any okama martial arts from the okama.

You Sanjifags are fucking delusional.

>>155866163
Big Mom won't die unless betrayed by one of her family members.

>>155866163
>Was Sengoku just a lazy ass or something?
How can one not be lazy when Garp is around and constantly bringing cookies and stuff.

>>155865852
That would make the entire thing pointless.

>>155865516
FYI, using CoO to dodge isn't the same as future foresight. Sanji's good level of CoO allowed him to sense the jelly bean coming at him so he could dodge it, he didn't know Dogtooth would throw it before he actually did.

>>155866190
>didn't learn any Okama martial arts
>Hell memories isn't just a shit version of winter nights/summer days/desert kingdom memoire

>>155866217
Why is that? Specializing only means you focus on it more. Especially that Zoro and Luffy were in a better situation (showing signs of Haki beforehand, having actual teachers), it would make sense for them to be better.
It's possible Sanji is better than Zoro and Luffy at CoO and that Zoro has better CoA than Luffy, but there's nothing suggesting it so far.

Why are people acting like this was some special shot or something?
The guy could see a short distance into the future yes, but to Sanji, he was just a guy who walked up and shot at him. As anything to dodge as everything would have been.

>>155865656
Although to be fair Whitebeard took more than gunshots

>>155866318
It would be lame as hell to say "Sanji's forte is CoO and Zoro is CoA but Luffy is better than them in both yet his forte is CoC".

>>155862520
>If he was being true to their power the strawhats would get BTFO to paradise
Oh fuck off with that. The power levels have always been bullshit. If pre-Gear Second, no-Haki Luffy could beat Crocodile, then it doesn't make sense for the Admirals and Yonko to be gods compared to him.

Power levels in general are retarded nonsense, and anyone who defends that shit is a bad person. I'm sick of fans like you getting mad when the protagonists win fights. Guess what: the UFC Heavyweight champion of the world could get knocked out by some short, fat loser outside a bar some night. It's unlikely, but it isn't that improbable, either. In the real world, humans aren't tanks.

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>There are people who still haven't accepted that Pudding is nakama now.

>>155866465
I want Pudding to attempt to shoot Luffy Everytime he casually jokes about her third eye.

>>155866127
Wasn't a diss, it was an observation

>>155866435
Fuck off. Garp would still break Luffy into pieces.

Garp used his own fists to destroy mountain ranges into dust without any devil fruit.

Luffy ain't surpassing his own blood related family members anytime soon.

>>155866465
But she married Sanji and Oda said no romance between crewmates.

>>155866497
Praise Galette.

Mastering CoO is not a straight path. Nami predict weather, Sanji predict a hit and Usopp predict everything to land a perfect shot as long as it involve firing a shot.

>>155862893
>ywn have your own Hancock
I'll an hero any time now

Sanji and Pudding are already married.

>>155866514
Garp could get killed by literally dozens of characters "weaker than him", particularly devil fruit users. That goes double now that he's an old man.

>>155866392
How so? Sanji didn't have any actual teachers.

He just fucking ran away from trannies for two years.

Sanji wasn't being taught by Roger's right hand man.

>>155866572
I hate how thin the line is between halo and natural talent.

Some is just a navigators talent, some is just a fighters knowledge, not everything that happens is related to haki. But haki is so broad everything can be explained with it.

>>155864486
You're married before the kiss

>>155866607
Tell that to the minister with a jellybean through his brain right now that didn't finish the ritual and the unsigned or non-existent paperwork

>>155866607
I wonder if Oda will have the balls to make it stick instead of Judge/Big Mom declaring it null and void.

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>>155866631
inb4 Garp can use some technique to be young again and fight in his prime just to job anyway

>>155866648
You're not married until you have sex on the wedding night. That's why you can annul a marriage that isn't consummated. For many ancient cultures, the wedding was basically sending the bride and groom in a tent to fuck.

>>155866695
Garp with a Gee!

>>155866640
Haki is just will power. Some inherit their will like you grandfather is probably a stubborn moherfucker and you are probably one too. Experience can also shape your will, etc

>>155866687
Doesnt matter, the I do part was done before the kiss so they are married

>>155862457
You need to get that word out of your system. You're focuses on it too much. Just enjoy the damn thing.

>>155862376

I miss old one piece where we actually had a pacing with big panels and arcs that lasted less than a year rather than infodumps with micro silhoullettes and 20+ characters cluttered in a single arc that lasts years.

>>155866719
What the fuck are you trying to say?

>>155866713
Nice headcanon, but legally speaking you're married after making your intention clear before the kiss.

>>155866735
Oda wants to ride his gravytrain of money until he dies.

>>155862457

because the fucking series has a trillion characters already

seriously, you have 20 PAGES PER WEEK and you expect literally everyone to get enough SCREENTIME to showcase their power?

the goddamn manga introduces an average of 1 to 2 NEW characters per fucking chapter.

>>155866751
Legally speaking, you are NOT in a legal marriage if it isn't consummated, which is why you can legally annul a marriage that hasn't been consummated. The law gives you the benefit of the doubt that it's going to happen, but if you report it didn't, the state will make the marriage null and void with no more questions asked.

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>Smoothie will never squeeze juice out of you with her amazing thighs giving you the best orgasm of your life
Just send me up senpai, I can't do it anymore

>>155866788
Bounties are a cheap way of making a jobber look intimidating.

So it's official, Vinsmokes are retards.

>>155866790
I'm not on either side of this argument and just want to wait it out and see how Oda handles things, but
>legally
These are PIRATES dude

>>155866821
Big Mom has married well over a hundred children off and if there were other wedding slaughters they would be known of and mentioned

There was no reason to assume big Mom would kill them

>>155866634
You don't need the whole haki package, CoO seems easier to develop. I prefer to give them credit instead of putting them under Luffy's shadow where even their best is not enough.

>>155866607
They need to consummate.

>>155866790
>you are NOT in a legal marriage if it isn't consummated
Nope, you're making shit up. You have literally no source to back that up.

See:
http://idoobxweddings.com/resources/declaration-of-intent/

>>155866783
I think it's the other way around. Dressrosa was such a clusterfuck precisely because Oda decided to put too many things in there. Like it's a Doflmaningo arc but also Law arc but also Sabo reveal arc but also new admiral introduction arc but also fleet formation arc but also there are two different set of citizens, and it's their arc too.
Everything happening in span of one day (in-universe), with breaks only for flashbacks.
I'm pretty sure it was done because Oda wants to end OP within his lifespan.

And I fear Wano will suffer similar fate. It's a bit better though since probably most of the major players are already introduced and have some individual build-up.

>>155867009
No, they don't.

>>155867036
Depends on the laws of OP world, really. Medieval Europe had the necessity to consummate. It prevented impotent men from getting women.

Also a reason to keep the virginity on a woman, as it can be used as proof.

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>>155863575
Zoro literally tried to get Kuma to kill him in order to protect Luffy. How is that different from Jinbe wanting to protect Luffy at the cost of his life? You can pretty much say that for all of the SH.

>>155863622
Because actual Luffy was wearing it.

>>155865716
No he didn't. That was just mangastream making up their own shit. In the actual manga Luffy just commented like Cracker's was impressive. Luffy never compared anybody's haki nor proclaimed it like his is the best.

>>155867077
Don't think Oda would use a specific Medieval Europe rule just to let SaNafag save face to be honest.

>>155865074
God damn Splenda Man

I pity that fruit user

>>155866818
Not to mention you can artificially boost your bounty beyond its calculation of your actual strength with burning/ruining shitsloads of cities/civilians.

Something that Kid do which result higher bounty than luffy, Jack does it which gives him 1 billion bounty, and considering bigmom pay or die protection scheme, the 3 sweet commander also did it.

On other side, WhiteBeard didn't do shits like that and possibly cause his division commander bounty to be lower than Kaidous or BigMoms like Ace's 500 million is much smaller than city destroying Jacks billion.

>>155867013
Don't blame me for your shit education. Did you never wonder why common law marriage exists?

>BUT MUH WEDDING CEREMONY
is just a ceremony. Most of human civilization has considered the sexual act of consummating the marriage as the actual binding thing.

>>155867158
Not in Europe nor the USA, Ahmed.

>>155867158
>still no source proving it's legally essential

>>155867026
I think Oda learned his lesson with Dressrosa. Whole Cake Island has a similar amount of large characters and he knows he should just plow through.

Wano has a fuck tonne of characters that all need spotlight, Kaido, Beast Pirates, Three Calamities, Kidd, Apoo, hawkins, Drake, samurai, and then the entire Straw hat alliance that will attack Wano with Minks, heart pirates and possibly Whitebeard pirates.

Wano will be two years minimum unless Oda speeds through it.

>>155867107
>a specific
It was a general rule. Non-virgin women were often killed, especially in Arabia. Unless they were concubines taken in raids.

>>155867158
Some civilization like older Japan and mid asia use Pregnancy or childbirth as the proof that they have "fully" married.

If they have did wedding ceremony but the wife haven't conceive, they could annul the wedding without much fanfare.

>>155867195
Yeah, well nowadays it isn't and the Big Mom Arc doesn't have a Medieval Europe Theme, so there is no point in assuming that.

>>155867178
>not in Europe
Go away Yankee. You don't even know what marriage is. Even the sacrament of marriage is in the consummation.

Modern retcons do not change the nature of the authentic thing.

>>155867194
He doesn't have to introduce the member of Strawhat grandfleet here and law flashbacks+stuff. it cut the time by a third at very least.

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>>155865600
>Who the fu k actually dies by a gunshot in One Piece?
Spee D. Reader. The bandit Lucky Roo shot in the very first chapter died by a gunshot.

>>155862376
>A dumb mutated frog doesn't even have a chance

Funny. I've heard this said before.

>>155867211
Medieval, not Medieval Europe. Asia, Africa, Middle-East, Europe all had it. Marriage is penis in vagina, because that is how babies are born.

>>155862376
I never noticed this pattern in Sanji before, though I guess three over a thousand chapters might not qualify as a pattern.

>>155867214
You are still making shit up. I live in Europe. People get legally married before the wedding with the I do being the necessary part of the actual wedding. There is literally no rule nor tradition saying they aren't married before fucking.

>>155865716
citation needed

>>155867237
Which is still is a none argument, because nothing indicates OP weddings would have a Medieval standard.

>>155866808

>Smoothie will never throw you around like a ken-doll and then grind on you and start hammering down on you like a piledriver until you black out

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>>155867214
Considering Oda location, In Japan "Marriage" is to fill and file this page. The rest is optional ceremony depend on your budget.

Tough in my place we just to bring our id and do the oath in front of the govt marriage official (usually some ordained religion leader/official).

>>155867178
>>155867192
The fact that you can annul your marriage if it wasn't consummated is proof. You don't need any further explanation. If you go in front of a judge and both you and your spouse say

>The marriage was not consummated.

they'll annul it.

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How do you guys think Urouge was beaten by Cracker? Against Luffy, Cracker showed nothing but using his soldiers as brute force, which would have no effect on Urouge since his df absorbs it into more strength.

>>155867099
Why cant niggerstream just keep their translations simple? the embellishments make the whole thing cringey.

>>155865753
>>155867261
Fuck off speedreaders.

Luffy stated Cracker's is the hardest CoA he's seen.

Also Cracker could actually damage Luffy in Gear 4th form while Doffy never did.

>>155867253
>>155867318
Because they give you the benefit of the doubt that you're going to have sex on the wedding night. Again, that's why not having sex on the wedding night is grounds for the marriage being annulled.

>>155867329
Show me the law nigga.

>>155867354
You still haven't posted a single source supporting your nonsense.

Sanji is married, get over it.

>>155867347
No he didn't. That was niggerstream making up their own shit.

Here is the dialogue from Japanese.

ルフィ「………くそ!!!」
「硬ェ…!! こいつの“武装色”っ!!

"....Shit!"
"It's hard! His bushoshoku!"

>>155867354
Have you been in a modern wedding?
Consumate your marriage in you wedding night? Most Bride and Groom that i know just want a good night sleep after long ass event.

They could fuck like rabbits in their honeymoon anyway.

where is the second chapter?

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>>155867347
>citing niggastream's shit translation
Here's viz's version peasant.

>>155867354
>>155867375
Both of you are retarded, you can't get married by criminals under duress. The point is moot, what fucking laws about consummation?

What the fuck is she going to do if he walks, sue him for alimony and make the World Government enforce it?
I know, maybe she'll sign "Pudding Vinsmoke" when she deposits a cheque at the bank of fucking "My mom's bribe money she got from countries that wanted to stay on the map".

Sex is unnecessary. You Get married when the priest/governor/whoever announce you as a wife and husband. Just if one of two don't want to have sex Then this is a reason to get divorce. And you have to get divorced because Mariage is Official. Its not like after wedding you just go away because didnt have sex or didnt Kiss. In face of law you are married and you have to get divorce to go away. Stop ptojecting movie schemes with kissing shit.

>>155867510
>you can't get married by criminals under duress
Retard of the thread

>>155864834
Well if you think about it there's not much "normal" power left (since all the DF are supposed to be unique). Things like the metal/earth/water/wind logia or laser/nature power will probably reserved for more important characters, but these mooks need to have a DF power to showcase their crew power, so stupid things like art or cream were invented by Oda.

>>155867496
>>155867469
I stand corrected then, thanks senpaitachi

>>155867510
Well actually it would be "Vinsmoke Pudding" but also Big Mom's children keep their surname so it would still be "Charlotte Pudding"

>>155867496
But that also implies a lot, doesn't it?
Luffy didn't feel like Doffy's CoA was too hard.

>>155867551
>t.shipperfag - the retards of every single One Piece thread - past, present, and future

>>155867329
Dude its because in the oath of marriage you swear to have sex and babies. And you swear to be fiathful. And if you are not you can divorce. Same with sex. And if without sex marriage wouldnt be official Then why even annul It? You should just say "no sex no marriage" and go away... But you cant! Because marriage is official by law.

>>155867361
I don't live in CA, but I'm going to assume you do, since you sound retarded.

https://www.mylegalbriefcase.com/lawyertalk/1670/how-to-get-marriage-annulment-in-california

>If one of the partners is unable to consummate the marriage and the inability can't be cured, the marriage can be voided.

It's the same everywhere in the US. I don't personally know the laws for Canada and Europe, but I'm 99.99% confident they're mostly the same. A marriage is historically seen as being contingent on consummation.

>>155867596
Nice non-argument, but you just showed, you 're dumb.

>>155867599
There are millions of married couples who never have babies. So what? And having sex in your honeymoon instead of the wedding night isn't that odd either.

>>155867599
Except you can't get an annulment for your spouse breaking their vow to be faithful. If your wife cheats on you, the best you can get is a divorce. An annulment is for things that make the marriage invalid. Things like

>fraud
>person being unable to marry for any reason
>person being married to someone else
>no consummation
>person not being of sound mind
etc

>>155867602
You are right. marriage is on. Its legal. You can just get divorce because of no sex or being unfaithfull. But until you go to Court and ask for divorce the marriage is Full legal no matter if you had sex/kiss.

>>155867492
What second chapter?

>>155867496
Not him but there are many examples of Doffy puking blood from that kind of fist while already blacking his stomach, it's clear Oda wanted to show that Cracker's CoA > Doffy. I'm not sure about Zoro though

>>155867602
You're really fucking stupid. This is talking about one party tricking the other about their own wellbeing and it they turn out to be ill etc. when they have sex. It does not force couples to have sex in their wedding night nor does it deny their marriage if the don't. Also Pudding can fuck, retard.

>>155866735
Yea you know, like Zou?

>thinking the kiss or wedding sex is something officially needed
Underage retards

>>155867671
They said there would be double chapters this week.

>>155867662
>But until you go to Court and ask for divorce the marriage is Full legal no matter if you had sex/kiss.
An annulment is not a divorce. And sure, you're legally married until you request an annulment. But after you do, I'm pretty sure it's retroactive. You don't split property/income in an annulment.

>>155867737
Which also means Sanji is married right now, so you argued for nothing all the thread long.

Is Fujitora from Wano? Same with Ryokyugyu? In Fujitora's case, it makes sense that he's like a nobody that just became admiral out of nowhere because Wano is closed off.

Even though Wano is closed off, I wouldn't doubt the marines getting involved in Wano seeing as when SH arrive, Wano will be extremely vulnerable giving the marines a chance to infiltrate in some form.

>>155867757
I don't think so. Wano already has three groups. Kaidou's group, the opposition and the strawhats (+minks and perhaps even Marco if he catches up). No need to involve much more.

>>155867676
>It does not force couples to have sex in their wedding night nor does it deny their marriage if the don't.
Holy fuck, of course it doesn't. The state doesn't send spies into people's bedrooms to make sure they're having sex. The point is that if Pudding doesn't put out, Sanji can go before the Right Honorable Judge Vinsmoke and have the marriage retroactively voided.

So Sanji's still pure. When people ask him "were you ever married", he can say "no".

>>155867806
>The point is that if Pudding doesn't put out, Sanji can go before the Right Honorable Judge Vinsmoke and have the marriage retroactively voided.
Who cares? We were arguing if he's married right now or not, which he clearly is right now.

Before I read this discussion o Sanji's marital status I always thought that the "autism" here was just a meme.

>>155867829
Did they sign the certificate/fill out the registration form? If not, then the government won't consider them married.

>>155867896
For crying out load, what government? What the fuck are you guys even discussing?

>>155867726
They said there is a double *issue* next week.

>>155867896
It's a Wedding of two Pirates, do you assume they would ask the World Government, nigga?

>>155867787
It depends on what kind of fighter Ryokyugyu is. It would feel weird to not have the samurai admirals not be present in Wano. I expect Ryo to be a samurai because Oda seems fond of Mifune. But you're right that it would feel bloated so in that sense I can see them not being present.

>>155867896
>sanafags are this autistic

man, this is hillarious. much better then mandatory sana shipper pictures. carry on...

>>155867928
So we will have 2 chapters next week?

>>155868087
No, three

SaNa fags are just retarded.
Oda confirmed no romantic relationships will occur between the main crew members.

>>155867896
I wasn't aware a wedding between two fictional pirates needed paperwork and government approval.

>>155868087
Actually Oda is going to give us the rest of the manga

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L-leave Sanafags to me!

>>155868253
Yeah, that's what the breaks were for, Oda was actually drawing then, just not releasing every 4th/5th week. He knew the rest of the manga was way too hype, and forcing people to read it on a weekly basis would be cruel.

>>155867335
sliced when Cracker revealed his true form

>>155866713
You're not married until the moment she wants divorce. You can't divorce unless you are married.

>>155867335
Urouge wasn't beaten though. He defeated one and then ran away when a second one (Cracker) came because he was too damaged. Nothing implies that he actually fought and then lost to Cracker.

So sanji actually got married?

>>155868373
yeah

>>155867158
>>155867178
>kissless autists arguing about marriage
Start by getting a girl to hold your hand first before thinking about marriage.

>>155866631
You know Commander Kong could kill Luffy right now, right?

>>155868401
No need to project for no reason.

>>155868373
We don't know yet, there's all this pointless arguing about it, but in reality different cultures handle things differently and we'll just have to wait and see how Oda decides to handle things

>>155862389
the only valid response

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Is this the face of regret?

>>155868488
Probably, no one can win against the D.

>>155868488

It's the face of a hideous 3-eyed monster

>>155868087
A double issue does not mean that two chapters are released, it means that there will be one jump issue covering two weeks.

For example,

Week 19- Issue #19
Week 20- Issue #20
Week 21- Issue #21/22 (Double Issue)
Week 22- Break
Week 23- Issue #23

If Week 21's issue were numbered as Issue 21 and not a double issue then week 23's issue count would've been screwed. In other words, a double issue is no different from a regular issue except for the nomenclature. I hope it's clear now.

>>155868488
It's the face of the new crewmember

>>155868488
No wedding rings in the one piece world?

Place your bets on final ships

LuffyXHancock
SanjiXPudding
ZoroXTashigi OR Perona
ChopperXRandom Mink
BrookXTelling Stories to children
FrankyXThe two sluts at Water 7
RobinXNobody/Wisdom
NamiXSome Lesbian
UsoppXKaya
JinbeXDeath
CarrotXAnother Random Mink

>>155868598
>ChopperXRandom Mink
Milky is not random

>>155868598
There will be no final ships you moron.

>>155866808
I wonder how long it will take for some artist to draw Smoothie squeezing the juice out of a big dick. Or a cock if you want to use it as a joke.

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>>155863045

>>155868598
The only canon ship will be the Thousand Sunny

Interesting fact the wedding autists never mention:
One Piece is full of ships and captains.
Captains are the highest civil official of the ship.
They can officiate marriage and divorce.
Luffy can offer both to Sanji.
Problem solved.

>>155868674
only when Luffys authority is greater than Linlins

>>155868598
FrankyXKyuin

Is Cracker stronger than Doffy?

>>155868701
So after he beats the shit out of her?

>>155867329
Proof of what? that you are actually married? How can you annul a marriage if you aren't married? Annulment on the grounds of not having consummated it does not make the marriage any less legal, it just means that the parties involved have been able to show the judge enough evidence that the two really didn't want to be married.

HOWEVER... until a judge actually annuls a wedding, both parties are legally married.

>>155862520
>Oda has to move the story along.

this is the most brainless copout excuse that doesnt even make sense

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>>155868653
>It will be damaged, weary and worn out but it will shine brighter than any other ship in the sea

>>155868725
His haki is, as lame as that is considering Cracker's character and ability are anime filler tier while Doffy was iconic and had an incredible fruit

>>155868701
When they are on the sunny, L is the highest autorithy, Mong D. Oloi.

>Hey Sanji, sweetie, what's that you drawing?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6zBTF4INW5g

>>155868674
>>155868701
Fucking thank you, holy shit

>>155868777
Is that why he takes orders from Nami?

>>155867590
Actually she could just add his surname to her own.

Charlotte Vinsmoke Pudding.

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bounty economy is so fucked

oda shoulda added another 0 onto robin's

Sanji can do whatever the fuck he wants they are pirates, he doesn't need Luffy's ok

>>155868843
Bounties represent the threat to WG.

>>155868819
She's the navigator so he better damn well listen to her

>>155868843
It's things like Robins bounty that suggest the series in running much longer than Oda ever intended
It was once going to be a 5 year series

>>155868843
Paradise is a whole different thing compared to the New World

>>155863315
I don't like balloon tits Nami. I prefer the old design before she started dressing like a complete whore.

>>155868725
Nope. Doffy is stronger than First mate level.

>>155868819
>>155868910
Good catch.
Nami will force Luffy to null the marriage to please the SaNa fags.
Shippers buy tankobon.

>>155868958
Fuck off SaNigger

>>155867806
>The point is that if Pudding doesn't put out, Sanji can go before the Right Honorable Judge Vinsmoke and have the marriage retroactively voided.

>So Sanji's still pure. When people ask him "were you ever married", he can say "no".

No, he was still married. Annulling a marriage does not mean you make it so that you were never married. Actually there are two types of annulment.

1. The marriage is declared to not be legal. however it never states that it was never legal.

2. The marriage is declared annulled: meaning that such things as dowry and other responsibilities no longer matter.

Nowhere anywhere does annulment mean that all of a sudden you were never married. You are confusing annulment of a marriage with annulment based on the marriage being judged illegal.

>>155868598
Luffy, Sanji, Chopper, Usopp and Jinbe are correct
Franky and Robin go together though

>>155868896
then i should reiterate: oda shoulda added another 0 onto robin's

>>155868936
>only person in the world capable of reading the poneglyphs, a secret the WG is desperate to suppress

>meanest character to Sanji (aside from his family) buckles because he called her disgusting third eye pretty

How does he do it?

>>155867896
Since when is a marriage license filled out AFTER a wedding. That type of shit is always handled before the actual wedding ceremony! So if there was any papers that needed to be signed, it seems a pretty sure beat that the Vinsmokes an Big Mama signed those things already.

>>155868653
Have we ever seen inside any of the individual rooms? Not the kitchen, navigation area, or the tank, but the individual rooms?

>>155869029
in the anime we have, dunno about the manga

thriller bark arc, when ussop, franky, robin and chopper come back to the thousand sunny to look for luffy, zoro and sanji

>>155869029
Many times. There is a whole special dedicated to it done by Brook as well as images if you look. Nami and Robin's room as well as Chopper's room are in the manga even.

>>155868598
This isn't a fucking shoujo manga where every single character needs to be paired up you fucking faggot, fuck off with that stupid shipping bullshit.

Why do shonen series attract so many shippers?

>>155865029
Kuina

>>155868464
No, we know he got married. Only people that deny that he is married are people that believe you become married when you kiss the bride.

So there is no confusion. He married and that is all there is to it.

>>155868674
>Captains are the highest civil official of the ship.
>They can officiate marriage and divorce.
No, that is untrue. Captains can only perform marriages if the country they are from recognize this ability. Secondly -- No captain can divorce people. That is just complete fabrication on your part.

>>155869110
Fujos

>>155869201
Yeah maybe wherever YOU live he would already be married, but like I said in the post, different cultures handle it differently

So will Pudding become to Sanji what Kaya is to Usopp after this arc?

Though after what happened I doubt she'll be able to stay with the Big Mom pirates without the threat of death for ruining everything.

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>>155868938
>East Blue - Early One Piece- young pirates doing piratey things
>Alabasta to Skypiea - Romantic adventures
>Water 7- Marineford - Luffy makes himself a larger target for the WG/Marines
Post timeskip- Luffy gains more influence and starts replacing established powers


The faces during Skypiea were the best, even if the women had no stomachs

>>155869238
not him, but nothing implies that it's different in OP. They had to say I do which is the part that seals the deal before the kiss.

where did the dressrossa is bad meme come from?

legit curious

I wish I had waited longer to catch up. Zou and Big Momma's House have been pretty fun.

Marineford -> Fishman -> Punk Hazard -> Dressrosa

How many years of continuous pure shit is that?

>>155869271
Yes, in SOME CULTURES
Some places you have to kiss
Some places you have to have sex
Some places you have to sign a paper, it's different everywhere

>>155869264
>using anime for comparison

>>155869264
The anime isn't exactly a great comparison thanks to toei

>>155869295
There isn't a single place where a kiss or sex makes it official except third world shitholes and I doubt Oda would go along with them.

>>155869238
And what culture would that be? The culture of LaLa-land?

>>155869294
PH was decent

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>>155863045
What does Dogtooth Charlotte use as a projectile? I think they are jelly beans.

>>155869283
from the arc and its quality level

>>155869313
>there isn't a single place that does this except for these places that do this

>>155869294
>How many years of continuous pure shit taste is that?
FIFY.

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>>155869264
>>155869299
>>155869307
I stand by what I said

>>155869348
Rape is also a common thing in India, doesn't mean I have to accept it.

>>155869368
But it happens, that's my point
You can't just cover your ears and pretend it doesn't happen

>>155866163
Even Akainu has abide to politics.

>>155868843
Wish this series had strong bounty hunters going around able to fight with big boys and actually win.

>>155869368
That's some pretty childish logic. Just because you don't accept it does not mean that it doesn't happen.

>>155869368
>Rape is also a common thing in India
India has been characterised as one of the "countries with the lowest per capita rates of rape"

>>155863575
Actually it's Luffy who carries the death flag.
There are two occasions where it was basically spelled out for you, that Luffy will die young.

>>155869408
Your point has not point to it. You are inferring that:

IRL there are some 3rd world countries with vastly different cultures than what we have in the west that have some seriously odd marriage laws = clearly western inspired pirates having what looks like a western wedding must is the same.

How does that even compute?

for that matter, you has as of yet even shown any proof that there actually still are any cultures/countries that have these laws.

>>155869355
2004-2006 is the best

>>155869540
So you think the chance is higher that Oda goes against tradition, rules and religion and chooses to go with lol a kiss will do it, when he literally included the I do part?

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>>155869264
Reminds me of tittymonster Toei Robin from Punk Hazard.

>SaNafags shilling the most obscure wedding forms unrelated to the manga to pretend Sanji isn't married
Alright

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>>155868987
While the government wanted her captured they also didnt want people digging into the reason they want her captured.

79 million is enough to get people to do it but not think to much into it

790 million would definitely raise alarm bells and people would think to keep her to themselves like crocodile did.

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>>155868934
I wonder if the One Piece in the original "5 years plan" and now is still the same

>>155869615
>goes against tradition, rules and religion

No that chance is higher that Oda doesn't give a fuck and you are just looking to deep into this.

>>155869677
I think the chance is higher that you're just in denial.

>>155869692
About what? I'm not the one arguing with you over marriage you stupid fuck. Who cares if Sanji is considered married or not?

>>155869283

Narutards, Bleachfags, animeonlyfags, the birdcage and the false tension + unusually long arc.

The arc was praised on /a/ at first, people started whinning at the very end then a new wave came and started spamming "Dressrosa is shit". They are most probably the narutards/bleachfags/animeonlyfags. The first 50-60 chapters are just top tier. Would've been arguably one of the best arc ever without the birdcage and what it implies.