Dragon Ball Super

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Best angel

>>155830181
I don't see Marcarita there.

>>155830102
Best attack Trunks ever came up with

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>>155830193
U10>Vados>Marcarita

>>155829741
We need Mr DB back

>>155830287
What ever happened to him?

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>>155828121

Nah, this one is the definitive version.

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>>155829741
I post every bait so you don't have to

>>155831105
That one's shit

You know OP I think this might be a good opportunity to ask.

If you worthless ningen were given the golden opportunity, who would you choose as Super's new (and permanent) music composer?

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>>155831105
WAIT! This needs some logos on it, so it looks more oficial. There.

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>>155831336
>looks more oficial

You forgot about the more important logo. Now it's done.

>>155831105
Put a line going from SSJ to SSB signifying you need both it and SSGod to attain SSB and that's right.

>>155831471
you can't go from ssj to blue

>>155831550
And technically, in the anime, you can't go from God to Blue, since God stopped being a thing after BoG, and Goku got Blue during RoF.
Vegeta also skipped it entirely.
Blue is SSJ+God Ki which, in Goku's case, is attained via God

>>155831599
because god is a one time deal in the anime
after that god is blue

>>155831656
>after that god is blue

God isn't blue, though. God's a separate form attained via ritual; Blue's the mastery of God Ki used with the SSJ transformation.
SSJ is more important to Blue than God is

>>155831806
>Blue's the mastery of God Ki
just wait until tori pulls a new form out of his ass
ssb2/3 is inevitable because super is very profitable and in no way is going to end very soon

>>155831913
>implying next form isn't brighter red hair with a SSJ hairstyle or Kaioken Infinity

>>155831940
the openings are very inaccurate when it comes to how the arc going to happen
in the u6 tourney OP you have hit shooting out lasers and cabba shooting some ki out of his legs
then we have the zamasu arc OP where it appears that zamasu gets killed

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eMBAu-nUzcc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UzRf41NO3Qg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oClQy9Wj-uI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SMsYmjmga_g

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VVtaUL7pnes

Subfags BTFO

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Full-Power SSJ > God > SSJ/SSJBlue > Muscular Variants of SSJ > SSJ3 > SSJ2

Reminder that perfectly controlled white-yellow hair SSJ Goku post-Frieza is the GOAT look for Goku

>>155832496
namek ssj hair>every other version

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>>155832496
>>155832543

>>155832558
Is EoZ out of canon viability yet or is it still lingering like a shitty specter in the distance?

>>155832641
>Great saiyaman dead last
>Super Columbine 2 at the top
As expected from a Gohanfag

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>>155832543

>>155831520
>Blue is what if a Super Saiyan God became Super Saiyan
>4 is what if a Great Ape became Super Saiyan and keep a calm mind

>>155832685
t. cell posting from hell

>>155832685
He's already retarded for using the brain meme anyway.

>>155832766
>>155832685
Samefag.

>>155832738
it actually looked like hair unlike the other versions that look like some static wigs

>>155832806
t. American projecting as Gohan

>Vegito and Rose banners drop in a couple of days

Fuck I'm not ready I only have 170 stones

>>155832830
They'll be around for a bit, dw

>>155832808
How come they stopped using the lighter palette in favor of the mustard hair

>>155832821
Wrong, try again.

>>155832903
You probably hate the Ginyu Force and the Pride Troopers. Fuck off.

>>155832830
Which one should I pull on? I have a lot more Hero units but Rose would be sexy on my mono AGL. The only notable villains I have are Broly, Janemba and Golden Frieza

>>155832903
t. Mexican projecting as Gohan
Better?

>>155832940
1. Wrong
2. True

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>>155832806
Been seeing a lot of these "samefag" accusations recently in DBS threads. Are you that dubfag who gets easily tiggered by subfag b8?

>>155833086
0/10

>>155833136
>Everyone that disagrees with me must be the same person
As expected from a retarded Gohanfag

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@155833136
>rating b8 as usual
So that's a definite yes
Keep giving that subfag shitposter your "japlover.jpg" and fish pics

>>155832605
Swap BadMan pulllup vegeta with go ham namek vegeta and we good senpai

>>155831175
God, this is the saddest board on 4chan, isn't it?

>>155832605
Guerilla warfare Namekgeta truly was GOAT

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>>155833086
Fixed

>>155831550
I always forget this: on the anime, how did Vegeta got blue without the ritual again? He just trained with Whis and, bam, full god ki-mastery? But why wouldn't he be able to become red - isn't blue just red + yellow? If he can get blue, shouldn't him be able to become red too?

>>155833889
Isn't it the same in the manga?

>>155833889
>>155833966
In the anime, God was a temporary form attained via ritual that granted Goku access to Godly Ki. With refinement and mastery through angel-training, he was able to couple that GK with SSJ and become Blue.
Vegeta never under-went the ritual and effectively grasped and mastered GK from scratch, and did the same thing by coupling it with SSJ.
In the manga, it's the same for Goku, but SSJGod stays as a form past standard SSJs but prior to Blue. Vegeta gains access to it without the ritual because lollazywritingandfanservice.

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Shame you'll never get to tap West's ass.

>>155833636
nah its just dragon ball super threads

>>155832830
No one is ready. I have 70, but I'll whale the fuck out of this banner.

>>155832991
Janemba, Broly, Golden Frieza and Rose already make a good team, you surely have some fillers. And you could get other villains by pulling on Rosé banner. However, I think there will be better featured cards at the SSBV...

I'd like to have a Villains team just because it's much sexier, but the unit I'd like to pick the most is Emo Angst Zamasu. It would be insane if I got him and Rosé, but, if I was to pick one, I'd take the dumber decision.

Do we know anything about the release date of OP2 yet?

>>155834022
I think that this could be well written, if it showed how Vegeta had to master the SSJ forms in another direction, instead of going ssj3

>>155834139
not yet
have this for compensation
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCbeITNxkDY

>>155831806
>super saiyajin god super saiyajin
>called ssj blue for short
>not god mode

O rly?

>>155830303
He is in a band and did OPM opening

>>155834699
>db super opening and endings look 10/10
no they really don't. At least compared to the show itself. Kai on the other hand...

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>>155832496
>Reminder that perfectly controlled white-yellow hair SSJ Goku post-Frieza is the GOAT look for Goku

You sir, have a great taste.

>>155834328
What about the release of the DLC3 pack?

>>155834892
those characters look so gt. I bet toyotaro made designed them

>>155834875
no trailer, yet
I would rather wait for VJump for more information regarding DLC3

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>>155834935

>>155835157
Toyotaro quite literally copied a GT character for a GoD design.

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>>155834644
>>155834699
>>155834730

>>155835205
kek
>>155834031
she does not have one, its flat as hell
>>155832210
how is that btfo?

>>155834575
Yeah, God's different to Blue. Both have the power of gods but only one is actually God.

Leaks when?

How many times Universal is Goku rn?

>>155830102
Did that one happen? I don't remember it? Did they censor it or something?

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best villain walk into the ring

>>155836215
>gets OHK by a tongue
blue a shit

>>155834935

The fat alien looks similar to the one Hit killed.

>>155829741
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aeN7dB_pe-M

this tune is pretty great

>>155836576
>being killed by jobberhan
>not a con
get this shit out of here

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>>155836629
>Killed by Super Columbine 2
>not two flaws

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>>155829741
Because the guy who was behind the music direction/arrangements and these image songs from the Hit Song Collection CDs, Kenji Yamamoto, was accused of plagiarizing music, remember? They even removed his stuff for the new releases of the series and video games.
Kinda stupid IMO, the so-called "ripoffs" are very far-fetched, and they are only a handful of songs, compared to the hundreds he's made.

>>155836576
>Falconer
Once again FAULCONER fans spell it wrong.

How come in this religion, not spelling god's name right is okay and common?

>>155836576
>Bruce Falconer theme

Ugh

>>155829741
Because you can't expect good things from ningens

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Will it be shit?

How many girls has Gohan impregnated in high school?

>>155836576

I don't see how anyone could think the final beam clash with Cell was anything short of fantastic. The android/cell arc had a lot of problems, but that ending was not one of them. Cell coming back and immediately killing Trunks, bitch slapping an enraged Vegeta around like nothing, and crippling Gohan set the stage perfectly.

The actual beam clash was great because the whole cast jumped in and tried to help, with only Vegeta, once he got his shit together, making the difference. It was one of the few moments where we got a glimpse of Vegeta past his arrogant exterior.

It was also the last time Vegeta had a fucking mental breakdown because he was weak. Both times in the Buu Saga he went the extra mile despite recognizing his own lack of power. He's the only person in the series with any sort of character progression at this point.

>>155837173
Who's making it? Young Jiji?

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worst villain walking through

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>>155837486
>worst

Higashide is not human. He works on every episode, and despite this, he's so consistent.
All of these episodes aren't perfect, but at least they don't reach RoF arc level. They're well animated. In episode 81, if I'm not wrong, in that scene Kitano was corrected by Ide (luckily).

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>>155831520

>>155837593
Is this the new hot meme that's going to get reposted every thread for 5 months?

>>155837376
Yep. Another "what if Future Gohan survived and had to fight Goku Black?" story

>>155837664
No, I just removed the GT shit from it.

>>155837710
Okay, but what if Babidi tried to revive Buu when he was chronologically supposed to?

>>155837847
This was covered in Super.

F.Trunks kills Dabura and Babidi while SSJ2 hard, and prevents it happening.

Try watching the show we're discussing, idiot.

>>155837786
ur not that bad

>>155837847
The Androids with their infinite energy would have been perfect for reviving Buu. But since they can't be sensed, Babidi passed on Earth since the population was small. He only visited Earth much later after adult Trunks had killed Cell and the androids, and humanity began to repopulate.

>>155837786
whiteboi

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>>155837900
By which time F. Trunks was a grown adult.

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>>155829741

Reminder that Son Goku was dead in all the other timelines, especially the adult time traveling Trunks timeline.... and thus could not be around to piss Zamas off enough to want to steal his body, leaving a huge hole in the causality loop that started the Black Saga.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xn7rIarpQBk

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>>155837960
A WHITE BOY? I'M A NIGGA FUCKA DA FUCK YOU TALKIN BOUT? YOU GOT MY DICK HARD MEET ME SUMWERE

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>>155837968
t. zamasu

>>155836534
SSJ2 is x100 and SSJ3 is x400
God is unknown but is more powerful than Super Vegito which massively surpassed SSJ3 without the SSJ multiplier, so it's bare minimum more than 50x what SSJ3 is

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>>155838012
BALLS DEEP HOMIE

>>155838077
and according to the manga, SSB is x10 SSG

>>155838077
I thought Vegito was the most powerful character in Dragon Ball history.

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>>155838105

>>155838077
Where did you get those numbers?

>>155836576
>Frieza
>cons
>Two very ugly transformations

Those ugly transformations were meant to built up to Frieza's glorious final form. They were gradually more monstrous as a means of making him more intimidating for not needing to be burly and brutish, just dominantly powerful.

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>>155838112
Most powerful character in DBZ

>>155838145
I think it's in Daizenshuu 7. It says SSJ2 is 2x the multiplier of SSJ and SSJ3 is 4x of that.

>>155838112
Gohan is the strongest non-fused character in DBZ.

SSJ3 Goku is about 60 billion points behind.

>>155836183
it was from a movie

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Post yfw Hit beats Jiren AND Goku AND Jobgeta ALL by KNOCKOUT

>>155838253
I WANT BIGGER NUMBERS MOM ! GIVE ME BIG NUMBERS ! I WANT BIG BIG NUMBERS BECAUSE I'M A BIG BOY !

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>>155838327
>>155838333

>Saiyan saga
Vegeta (Great Ape): 100,000
Goku (Kaioken x3): 24,000
Vegeta: 18,000
Goku (Kaioken): 16,000
Gohan (Great Ape): 13,200
Goku (after training): 8,000
Nappa: 6,000
Piccolo (after training): 3,500
King Kai: 3,500
King Yemma: 2,000
Tien (after training): 1,830
Krillin (after training): 1,770
Raditz: 1,500
Yamcha (after training): 1,480
Gohan (after training): 1,320
Saibamen: 1,200
Yajirobe (after training): 970
Chiaotzu (after training): 610

>end of DB / start of Z
Goku: 416
Piccolo: 408
Kami: 320
Mr. Popo: 300
Tien: 250
Krillin: 206
Korin: 190
Master Roshi (buffed): 180
Yamcha: 177
Yajirobe: 168
Chiaotzu: 152
Master Roshi: 139
Chi-Chi: 130
Farmer with shotgun: 5

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>>155838327

>Namek saga
SSJ Goku: 150,000,000
Frieza (Final Form 100%): 120,000,000
Goku (Kaioken x20): 60,000,000
Frieza (Final Form 50%): 60,000,000
Goku (Kaioken x10): 30,000,000
Frieza (Final Form): 3,000,000
Goku (Zenkai boost): 3,000,000
Vegeta (Zenkai boost #3): 2,400,000
Frieza (3rd form): 2,120,000
Piccolo (fused w/ Nail): 1,260,000
Frieza (2nd form): 1,060,000
Gohan (enraged): 1,000,000
Frieza: 530,000
Goku (Kaioken): 180,000
Captain Ginyu: 120,000
Gohan (Zenkai boost #2): 100,000
Goku: 90,000
Vegeta (Zenkai boost #2): 60,000
Recoome: 46,000
Jeice: 44,000
Burter: 42,000
Nail: 42,000
Vegeta (Zenkai boost): 30,000
Zarbon (Transformed): 28,000
Gohan (Zenkai boost): 25,000
Vegeta: 24,000
Zarbon: 23,000
Ginyu (in Goku's body): 23,000
Dodoria: 22,000
Cui: 18,000
Gohan (Potential unlocked): 14,000
Krillin (Potential unlocked): 13,000 (tops at 75,000 vs Frieza)
Guldo: 10,000
Namekian warriors: 3,000
Krillin: 1,800
Gohan: 1,500
Frieza's soldiers: 1,400
Namekians: 1,000

>>155838253
Technically speaking BoG still counts as DBZ and so RoF. Making Goku the most powerful non-god character.
But in the Buu Saga, Gohan was indeed the strongest fighter.

>>155838253
That is correct.

>Android saga
SSJ2 Gohan: 7,500,000,000
Super Perfect Cell: 7,500,000,000
Perfect Cell (powered up): 4,500,000,000
MSSJ Gohan (enraged): 3,750,000,000
Perfect Cell: 2,600,000,000
MSSJ Goku: 2,500,000,000
Cell Juniors: 2,000,000,000
USSJ Vegeta: 1,800,000,000
USSJ Trunks: 1,700,000,000
Semi-Perfect Cell: 860,000,000
Android #16: 500,000,000
Piccolo (fused w/ Kami): 360,000,000
Android #17: 360,000,000
Android #18: 350,000,000
Imperfect Cell: 320,000,000
SSJ Vegeta: 280,000,000
SSJ Goku: 270,000,000
SSJ Trunks: 255,000,000
Piccolo (without weights): 180,000,000
Mecha Frieza: 150,000,000
King Cold: 120,000,000
Dr. Gero: 100,000,000
Android #19: 70,000,000
Vegeta (after 3 years): 5,600,000
Goku (after 3 years): 5,400,000
Piccolo (after 3 years): 5,000,000
Gohan (after 3 years): 3,000,000
Krillin (after 3 years): 150,000
Tien (after 3 years): 120,000
Yamcha (after 3 years): 100,000
Goku: 3,600,000
Trunks: 3,400,000
Vegeta: 2,800,000
Piccolo: 1,800,000
Gohan: 250,000
Krillin: 75,000
Tien: 60,000
Yamcha: 50,000
Chiaotzu: 13,000
Hercule: 10

*USSJ = Ultra Super Saiyan
*MSSJ = Mastered Super Saiyan

>>155838425
Goku's powerlevel was more than 8000 make it 8200~ and it's good anon, Nappa could top 7000 maybe. Raditz was 1200. I feel 180 low for Roshi if he goes all out. Rest makes sense

>Buu saga
Super Vegito: 400,000,000,000
Super Buu (Gohan absorbed): 200,000,000,000
Super Buu (Gotenks absorbed): 120,000,000,000
Mystic Gohan: 90,000,000,000
SSJ3 Gotenks: 44,000,000,000
Super Buu (Piccolo absorbed): 42,000,000,000
Super Buu: 40,000,000,000
SSJ3 Goku: 30,000,000,000
Kid Buu: 30,000,000,000
Majin Buu: 25,000,000,000
Vegito: 8,000,000,000
SSJ2 Vegeta: 8,000,000,000
SSJ2 Goku: 8,000,000,000
SSJ2 Gohan: 5,700,000,000
Kibito Kai: 5,600,000,000
SSJ Gotenks: 5,500,000,000
SSJ Goku: 4,000,000,000
SSJ Vegeta: 4,000,000,000
SSJ Gohan: 2,850,000,000
Dabura: 2,800,000,000
Supreme Kai: 2,300,000,000
Piccolo: 1,200,000,000
Yakon: 640,000,000
SSJ Kid Trunks: 525,000,000
SSJ Goten: 500,000,000
Gotenks: 110,000,000
Gohan (Z Sword): 90,000,000
Goku: 80,000,000
Vegeta: 64,000,000
Gohan: 57,000,000
Kibito: 56,000,000
Kid Trunks: 10,500,000
Goten: 10,000,000
Tien: 250,000
Krillin: 240,000
Pui Pui: 180,000
Spopovitch: 30
Yamu: 28
Videl: 21
Hercule: 10
Punta: 8

*Base Vegito toying with Buu is anime-only, this is based on the manga

>>155838549
make it 9001 for the old meme sake.

>>155837361
In the manga no one jumped in to help Gohan before Vegeta did. This is definitely one part the anime improved on.

Perfect characters don't exi-

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MRFBS_2yFII

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>>155838642
>jobhan

>>155838642
>Mystic Columbine Gohan
>perfect

>>155838558
>>155838504
>>155838456
>>155838425
can you post the visual power charts?
i'd appreciate it.

>>155838642
That theme still sends chills down my spine.

Why does Gohan get all the good music?

>Gohan fights Frieza theme
>SSJ2 Gohan theme
>Ultimate Gohan theme

>>155838642
Universe Survival MVP coming through again

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fkSsU7tO3Ew

>the technique
>the power

he only loses when the enemy cheats

>>155838558
how about the baby saga and the
U.S.Arc?

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WHERE ARE MUH LEAKS

>>155838642
>dub
>good

God its like a shitty 2007 abridged series

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Reminder that Hit will be the winner of the ToP, and will beat Goku, Vegeta, Toppo, and Jiren by Knockout.
Screencap this while you can.

>>155838789
Because he's the "chosen one" and supposed to be the main character after the Cell Saga (but Toriyama retconned it because tasteless Jap fans wanted Goku back).

>>155838845
up your ass

>>155838866
They do a bad job, but who wants to listen to Japanese people with their high pitched baby noises?

The Japanese are more authentic sounding and more professional and revised but fuck that I'm not Japanese I prefer it in English.

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>>155838877

DB has such interesting plot twists.

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>>155838691

>>155838935
show me where I said the jap is good

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>>155838969

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>>155839028

>>155838996
>blue is 9 times stronger than white or silver
How?

>>155838912
>tasteless fans
It was Tori who decided to bring Goku back because he felt Gohan wasn't going to work as the mc.

>>155838972
It's usually just implied.

What's the best version then?

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>>155838789

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g8Hlq869oZA

>>155837151
Sorry im into 90s trash instead of 80s trash

>>155838935
The high pitched voice fits Goku IMO, Gohan should have different voice acting but it's still fine, Vegeta voice is GOAT.
American Dub is unprofessional.

>>155839123
the portugese dub

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>>155837756
Let me help you cleaning up the remaining shit.

There, nice and simple.

>>155832077
manhow the fuck does Goku go from 400 to almost a billion in less than ten years? i just can't grasp how fast he gets strong

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>>155839071

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>>155839193

>>155839153
So you do have good taste after all, i retract my previous statements

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CnRgPN-ECB4

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>>155838912
>gohanfags still spout this nonsense to justify their rage

>>155838625

I haven't read the manga, but that's good to know. I always find my favorite parts of Dragonball Z were the fights where everyone played a part. Nappa, Recoome, and Kid Buu in particular.

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>>155839235

>>155839235
>not calling him hero
thank you very much

>>155839144
IT WAS OKAY TO HAVE GOKU VOICED BY A WOMAN WHEN HE WAS JUST A LITTLE KID

BUT HE'S A FUCKING MIDDLE-AGED MAN AND HE'S FUCKING JACKED AND WORKS OUT, AND HE'S VOICED BY A FUCKING EIGHTY YEAR-OLD LADY

Explain this.

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>>155839279

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>>155839340

>>155839340
wait one second.
Didn't they say "over 8000"
Also, I thought Kaio fist was supposed to multiply the power by 2, so why is it 10000?

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>>155839369

>>155839321
he is a reckless uneducated country bumpkin who likes to fight.

>Characters's power level changes throughout the fight
>Still try to measure them
What's the point?

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>>155839406

>>155838642
Agreed, Buu is perfect

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>>155839444

>>155839427
Powerlevels appeal to autism and therefore allowed the show to become more popular.

>>155839321
He's simply a guy with a high pitched voice while also having a hick accent that makes it sound even higher. Working out doesn't make your voice thicker

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>>155839488

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>>155839578

>>155839488
in the original Db, a gap of a few tens ment you didn't stand a chance. Now a few thousand is a close fight?

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>>155839613

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>>155839651

>>155839505
testosterone does you fucking retard and goku exalates test from every pore of his body like a fountain

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>>155839702

>>155839651
>piccolo takes off his weighted clothes.
>Gains millions of "points" (or whatever)
how?

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>>155839734
>>155839746
Piccolo can materialize clothes out of thin air.

He probably created his to be as heavy as a mountain.

>>155839746
Because those powerlevels are all made up bullshit.

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>>155839797

>>155838996
>>155838969
>beginning of series buff roshi can beat tao pai pai

how

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>>155839836

>>155839721
There are so many fits guys with high voices, also I'm the proof this isn't true, I'm baby faced with a very low voice

>>155839836
Wasn't Gohan's Kamehameha weaker than Cell's when he had his broken arm?

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>>155839881

>>155839881
>25º
hahaha

That's the Spanish number symbol

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>>155832210

>having to resort to fan orchestrations and remixes to make Faulconer's poorly aged garbage sound better than it is

>>155839746
It just works. Somebody should edit the face of Toriyama in one of the photos of Todd Howard.

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>>155839922

>>155839797
>>155839235

>100 million power level difference between goku and cell
>it was a close fight
>70 difference between yamcha and shen
>shen could have knocked yamcha out in one hit at any time

why is this

>>155839903
It was. Gohan says he lost half of his power

>>155839881
stop this autism faggot

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>>155839970

>>155839999
Ask the Kanzenshuu autist who pulled these numbers from his asshole.

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>>155840017

>>155839970

Where the fuck is Piccolo? Also, if those power levels are implying that Goten/Trunks are stronger than Piccolo then that's objectively retarded. It was implied numerous times that Goten and Trunks were weaker as two separate beings.

>>155839999
power levels meant nothing after half frieza saga

>>155839922
>MAJIN VEGETA STRONGER THAN SSJ3 GOKU
FUCKING STOP THIS SHIT JESUS CHRIST

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>>155840044

>>155839999

Relative difference.

All those PL are complete arse though. It would have been better off if that guy just stopped posting it.

>>155840050
seriously the guy spamming these is an autist

>>155840077
Not him but he isn't, see
>>155839970

>>155840077
Are you retarded?

Majin Vegeta = 8 billion
SSJ3 Goku = 30 billion

>>155840109
It looks like you're incapable of reading. Back to school.

>>155839881
>people with 28 and 30 power level were able to shove a comically large needle into Gohan
Sure thing.

>>155840092

>SSJ3 weaker than Goku using the Spirit Bomb

>not even slightly weaker - CONSIDERABLY weaker

jesus fucking christ no more of these nonsense power levels please. It's one thing to try and rationalise and calculate a fucking STORY, but to get it so vastly wrong at the same time. jesus christ.

>>155840186
That was a Super Spirit Bomb that gathered force from the entire galaxy.

>>155834935
Nothing cuckataro creates is relevant. all his gods have been written out by toriyama

>>155840225
Elephant and Robot are still in the tournament

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>anti-PL fags getting butthurt and salty because their favorite character (Hercule) is shit

Delicious tears

>>155840186
But this spirit bomb was for sure considerably stronger than the SSJ3

>>155838969
>>155838996
>>155839028
>>155839071
>>155839193
>>155839235
>>155839279
>>155839340
>>155839369
>>155839406
>>155839444
>>155839488
>>155839578
>>155839613
>>155839651
>>155839702
>>155839734
>>155839797
>>155839836
>>155839881
>>155839922
>>155839970
>>155840017
>>155840044
>>155840092
thanks man, appreciate it.

these are the most accurate and as far as im concerned, official power level list i've ever seen. everything makes sense

>>155840402
No problem.

It's a product of years of research and study. Thank God we are far past the dark ages of fan speculation.

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>>155840402
>pedrolevels
>official

Best English OP
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BT1Dp69D7q0

Best Nip OP
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X7kZVH849Eo

>>155840497

>here son, embrace my bulge

Who would win in a fight

The strongest iteration of goku so far, or galactus with the eternal mangekyo sharingan

Growth becomes easier the stronger you get.

It's why powerlevels over 1000 are rare across the universe, which is also why Saiyans at PL 1000-4000 on average were considered super dangerous and why early zenkai boosts are so low and shitty for them.

Freeza's soldiers ranked between 500-2000 presumeably and his elites were in the ranges of 10k-25k and the ginyu in 40k+ ranges, with Captain Ginyu being so retardedly powerful at 120k that literally the only character besides Freeza that could compete with him prior to the Namek saga was like, Oozaru Vegeta.

It's also possible people like Yamcha and Krillin are freakshows like the Ginyu force and have absurdly high potential and growth compared to their race's averages. Except they actually fucking train so achieving levels of like 200k is entirely possible.

As for Goku and Vegeta and Gohan, once you pass that threshold of the higher thousands it seems zenkai boosts legit skyrocket in power, I think Vegeta even says something abut that. The reason Saiyans never got that strong before is because there's not enough good competition in the universe for them to level up on. Once they reach like 5000-10,000 they're pretty much unstoppable as far as typical warriors go. Even Namekian warriors weren't as strong as Bardock, King Vegeta, or Nappa, save for Nail of course. And obviously the 10x boost from Oozaru made them even more impossible to beat granted a full moon was out. An army of Great Ape Saiyans could have killed Freeza and his elites if Freeza never managed to transform in time.

>>155840213
>>155840373

It probably shouldn't have said "SON GOKU" and then spirit bomb underneath in tiny letters then. Sort of gives the impression that Son Goku was the one with that kind of power.

>>155840480
Would it be possible to calculate how strong Bardock, Broly, Cooler and Gogeta are?

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>>155840527
Good taste broski
I believe you know what the best EDs are as well

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>>155832753

>>155840628
Of course
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mUXe8vqdvx4&
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NtLQgT1_azs

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>>155840497
Poor kid is even looking away from the bulge.

>>155840620
Bardock: around 1000~3000
Broly: around Perfect Cell's level
Cooler: around the Android levels
Gogeta: Buutenks/Buuhan

SSJ4 Gogeta is the most powerful character in all of Dragon Ball, followed by Omega Shenron and Super Vegito.

>>155832612
Pan is 5 in EoZ, so we still have plenty of time.

>>155840724
>all of Dragon Ball
zeno

>>155840786
Who?

>>155840593

Honestly I find that the complete opposite is true.

Zenkai's have become minuscule and obsolete. There hasn't been a single time since the Namek arc that a Saiyan has become considerable stronger after nearly dying.

People say that Vegeta got stronger from Zenkai in the Goku Black fight, but let's be honest, the scene of him fucking DESTROYING the Hyperbolic Time Chamber at the beginning of that episode was the reason why Vegeta came back and kicked Black's ass.

Also, we saw Vegeta say that as you near your biological limit, you can't gain as much power. It took a year in the Time Chamber (or at least more than 6 months) for Vegeta to come back and SLIGHTLY overpower Black. Vegeta and Goku are apparently nearing their limit, and honestly the power difference between now and the U6 saga seems to suggest that.

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strongest character . not arguable

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>>155839970

Farmer with a shotgun power level: 5

Shotgun slug carries approximately 4-5 KJ of energy at muzzle. Assuming that this measurement is accurate 1 KJ = 1 Power level (slightly less).

This means the Majin Vegeta of 24 Billion is equal to approximately 24 Billion KJ or 24 Trillion Joules.

A megaton is equal to 4.184 x 10 to the 9th (Billion)J.

This means that when Vegeta destroyed himself to destroy Buu the explosion was equal to approximately 5 Megatons of TNT.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=adyL_L5vukA

>>155840938

You think Toriyama is the final villain, only to see Toriyama's supervisor and Toei pulling the strings.

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>>155840684
good

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>>155840480
>years of research and study
Not sure if that's sad or funny.

>>155840593

>Vegeta (Zenkai boost #3): 2,400,000
>Vegeta (Zenkai boost #2): 60,000

That list is still horrendously wrong in places, which in turn threw out the entire list.

Also, there were maybe 15 Saiyans that weren't low class, the 'threat' Freiza saw in them at the time was really limited entirely to Vegeta becoming SSJ.

>>155836267
>Talking light of Taopaipai

>>155841092
This is when Vegeta went to 2,4 million:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=54UnckSh_gc

It makes sense, because Krillin blew a fucking hole in him and then got healed by Dende.

Goku's jump from 90k to 3mil is likewise because of his grave injuries in the fight against Ginyu.

>>155841198
>his grave injuries in the fight against Ginyu
Well it was more Vegeta taking advantage of the situation to beat the shit out of Goku's body.

>>155840724

I think Broly was a lot stronger than Perfect Cell. If the first Broly movie is meant to be within the 12 days preceding the Cell Games then the combined strength of Trunks, Goku, Vegeta and Gohan would have much more easily defeated him if that were the case.

>>155841368
The thing with Broly is that his power increases when he gets angry, just like Gohan.

So his base strength in LSSJ would be around P. Cell, but over time his power increases up to, let's say a maximum of Majin Buu's level (around 10~15 billion).

>>155841198

In the anime version of DBZ, after the Namek fight is over, Vegeta threatens Gohan, but Piccolo immediately stands in the way and intimidates Vegeta.

I can honestly agree with the fact that Vegeta, despite that big song and dance power up, only managed to surpass Frieza's first form, barely matching up to Piccolo. The scene was more to fool the viewer, and was more about Vegeta's delusion and fear than an actual power up.

There's no doubt that he soared higher than ever, but reaching almost 3,000,000? Jesus christ thats insanely off.

And to add another point, why is Piccolo in his weighted gear STILL stronger than Frieza's second form??? What the fuck? Piccolo's face is mashed in before he takes off his weighted gear and then SLIGHTLY surpasses Frieza's second form.

>>155841198

His power did not increase 40x from a single Zenkai.

>>155832210
Pathetic.

https://youtu.be/Ezrbyf6t9mY

>>155841491
kai was a mistake

>>155841525

>removes all filler stories and gives the Ginyu Force the gay, showtune glam rock theme song they deserve

YOU are the mistake my friend

>>155841456
Broly was never as strong as Buu. At best, Broly is above P. Cell in terms of raw power.

It's pretty much impossible for Buu to lose to a SSJ2 (DBZ) level foe.

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>>155841480
>Vegeta threatens Gohan
They actually fought.

Piccolo stood in the way when he realized Vegeta was gonna kill Gohan.

But Piccolo was not stronger, Vegeta simply had enough of their shit and left.

>>155840497
are ya winnin son

>>155841703
that was filler, retard

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>>155841703
to add:

The only moment when Piccolo became the strongest was when he fused with Kami, far surpassing a Super Saiyan and becoming equally as strong as #17, #18 and Imperfect Cell.

It wouldn't be until the Saiyans started training in the HTC that they became top again.

>>155841456

I deal in absolutes. I'm not passionate enough to put in the effort anymore, but I think 10-15b might be stretching it. I offer you 8.5b

>>155832991
Im in basically the same boat. but a rose would go beautifully with my super vegito and I just got janemba so I really want a chance to pull buuhan. Looks like villain banner it it is for me

>>155841656

>impossible for Buu to lose to a SSJ2

Fat Buu might have had a run for his money from Goku/Vegeta SSj2 at the end of Z, but definitely not Gohan's SSj2 versing Cell.

>>155839321
Sean is the voice of Goku. Dub>sub

>>155836090
lowballed goku is atleast universal
highballed he is low multiversal

>>155841823

>Vegito in the same tier as anyone else

Nope.

>people trying to equate Movie villains to TV villains

They're scaled completely differently. I remember something saying Broly was a galactic threat, or would've destroyed vast swathes of the Universe unchecked.
That's well above Solar System level, and therefore well above Cell level, if only because he'd need to be that strong to cause such damage in his life-span.
Can't equate them so directly.

>>155842051
Wrong.

>>155841703

I don't see why Vegeta would back away other than him being weaker

Piccolo: "Back off. Not today"

Vegeta: "U-ugh. Have it your way. "

Again though, it's not too important. It's just filler. I just don't see Vegeta getting that powerful from just one Zenkai.

>>155842093

>They're scaled completely differently

Pretty sure they are scaled exactly the same since we have heaps of common points of reference. Also being the same characters in the same universe helps.

>>155836843
Seriously, what is it with Dragonball and it's collection of alleged plagarizations?

>>155829741
Based Dream Theater is based: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9b4Cg9k8gxQ

also: based dub is based

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>>155842079
If we're going into numbers, here, let me unleash my autism...
>Goku in the anime adopts SSJGod's power into his base
>BASE Goku is now Universal
>SSJ Multipliers stack on-top
>SSJ Goku is 50x Universal, SSJ2 is 100x, SSJ3 is 400x
>multiplier for Blue is unknown, but it surpasses God by a decent margin, and God was above Super Vegito, which was, even 50 times weaker as Base Vegito, stronger than SSJ 3
>given that Super Vegito's multiplication of power is our only frame of reference, Blue would be at least a 50x greater multiplier than SSJ3, not even accounting for that as a firm low-ball, or that that also applies to SSJ God, which SSBlue is stronger than
>SSBlue is, massive low-ball, a 20,000 x multiplier on Goku's power
>x10 for Kaioken

Goku is 200,000 x Universal low-ball
Ya heard me

>>155842179
>same universe

Movies aren't canon

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>>155829741
Why cant we have characters like these for super?

>>155842325

Filler isn't canon either, but we can still figure out a PL for that shit based on what's known and what's obvious.

>>155842265

Not the same guy, but I really don't think the God Ki Goku absorbed into his base gave him that much of a boost. I think the whole "Saiyan Beyond God'' thing is just a term for a Saiyan who now has complete control over God Ki (which he can use in his SSJ1 form, making Super Saiyan Blue)

I'm sure his base form was boosted, but very very mildly.

U7 only has 28 planets with life because Beerus and Goku destroyed most of the universe at the start of Super by exchanging 2 punches.

>BbBbbbBut Goku is innocent!

>>155840402
Thank you. I'm glad you like my made up numbers

>>155842469
Filler at least occurs in the same universe, just in a state of questionable validity as it doesn't exist across all DB media.

>>155842370
But Yamcha is in Super

>>155842538
is he
is he really

having 3 lines in 84 episodes and not doing anything in the story doesn't count to me

>>155842495

>what is Frieza Force and Majin Buu

>>155842595
what is so appealing about yamcha and his death pose?

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>>155837281

>>155839999
>when you pull random numbers out of your ass

>>155839999
Are you retarded? Because overall difference also factors in relative placement.
150 > 220 is a far bigger relative fap than 25b > 26b

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>>155842370
What relevant thing has Yamcha done since DBZ started?

>>155842791
anti-PL fags are imbeciles, just ignore them

>>155842808
:( nothing
damn you toriyama!

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>>155842791
>150 > 220 is a far bigger relative fap

>>155842808
Took care of a sick Goku.

>>155842791
>also factors in relative
Your unit of measure is shit then.

>>155842861

So Raditz > Goku

From one of the best episodes of super so far
This episode was 4/10, although super is 1/10 at best
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Dp7UBRrHPA

>>155842891

Are you fucking serious? Go watch some slice of life or something.

>>155842875
I bet Yamcha fucked Chi-Chi on the kitchen table while Goku was dying of the heart disease in bed upstairs.

>>155842891
then what is super at worst?

Where's my cute Gine? SOMEONE POST GINE

>>155842973
Not canon.

>>155842930
>>155842962
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8UQ8HA2LlsU

>>155842962

Wasn't SSj3 Goku vs Beerus on King Kai's planet absolute arse? Disc release might have fixed it but I know TV release it was shocking.

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Has Dragon Ball ever had an arc as good as Namek?

Hint: the answer is no.

>>155843099

Nice bait, we all know the Androids/Cell arc has the most gripping story, and perfect fusion of both fantasy and sci-fi elements.

>>155843099

Saiyan Saga > Android Saga > Namek Saga >

>>155840891
Zenkais are specifically a Saiyan body adapting to handle more power
Ss does the same thing
After ss, zenkai just helps close the gap between normal and ss

>>155843099
We all know that Supers opening arc, the "water collection arc", was the best tv toei ever produced

>>155843010
what was "7 3"?

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>>155843099
Having watched the whole series recently, the only parts which actually really excited me were:

Every tournament
Red Ribbon Army
Vegeta/Nappa
Collection of the Dragon Balls on Namek
Driving Lessons Saga
Android/Cell saga pre-Semi-Perfect Cell
Gohan vs Perfect Cell
Buu Saga Goku vs Vegeta

>>155843362
>Having watched the whole series recently,
subbed or dubbed

>>155843362
The RRA saga was a snooze fest.
That shit was fucking boring.

It had some cool moments like Blue, Mercenary Tao and Ninja Murasaki. But the arc just felt like a long filler. I just wanted to get it over with and see Piccolo and the tournaments.

>No Lava Goku Xenoverse mod yet

>>155843455
English of course.

Why would you watch it in anything else?

>>155843506
I identify as an east orthodox Christian. God told me to wacth it subbed

>>155843455
Subbed. I watched a lot of the dub when I was a kid, so I figured I'd try the original.

>>155843455
>>155843506
disgusting.

opinion discarded then

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https://youtu.be/OCXoQ_ZcjYo?t=2m5s

>not posting the best battle music

>>155843556
This.

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>>155842950
Yamcha is too beta for that.