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Needed more Sisti bullying.

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Needed more Sisti bullying.
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>>155772207
I want a big fat pig man to bully Sisti with its dick.
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Unf, those uniforms. Would bully/10.
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>>155773156
those uniforms are retarded, almost dropped the show because of them.
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>>155773271
Wow, what a faggot
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>>155772847
>pig man to bully pig girl
yes
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>>155772207
I sincerely hope she doesn't win the mc-bowl.
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CUTE
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I WANT TO CUM INSIDE LUMIA!
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Don't mind the 2 lesbians doing their thing
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>Girl clearly has cow ears
>Refer to her as a "shironeko"
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>>155774027
Clearly a mistranslation, it was supposed to be "shroniku", white meat.
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>>155774027
>Draw a cow
>Call it a cat
Fucking nips
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So Glenn came up with his own magic right?

So basically everyone really good at magical theory goes on to get real jobs or do their own research and he is the equivalent of a phd in Mathematics teaching a bunch of 15 year olds?
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>>155774235
What part of "personal training from an immortal" do you not understand?
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>>155773739
She'll give the sensei a magical baby.
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Any smug face this time?
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>>155773739
Why? Only /jp/ is cuter than her.
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>>155772207
that's not bullying that's rape
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>>155774837
Why is she called /jp/ and who is /jp/
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>>155774775

plenty of smugs
like serika smugged all over her disciple
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>>155774027
wait the ears are real? I thought they were like clipped on to hairpins or something
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>>155774598
Really?
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I'm sure she secretly wanted it a little bit.
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>>155774894
I mean shironeko smug.
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>>155774911
they are
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>>155775259
how does she hide her tail?
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>>155774235
He was just saying "actually coming up with your own magic ain't that hard" to his class that episode, though.
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>>155775355
sorry meant they are part of the hairband. here are her parents for proof
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So how could they tell it was military-grade magic if all it did was maybe dent the wall a inch or two. That's like sledgehammer status which I guess would kill any normal person after all. Considering it's ranged as well, it's almost like artillery.
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>>155774892
lurk 5 years before posting
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Mommy
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>>155775556
They have probably head of the name.
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>>155775556

They know the spell. Manga explains it better since anime had no time. It's pretty much a goddamn railgun.
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I'm reading the manga
it's really good
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>people keep saying how cat is stupid and useless
>read the rest of first arc

Holy autism, she saved his ass three fucking times and it's just the first arc. Pigposters are fucking retards.
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>>155773995

I'm 100% sure they fuck every day.
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>>155775843
>an actual competent female MC
What is this?
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>>155775929

Not a battle harem, that's for sure.
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I hope they have the budget and next episode won't be a mess since it's pretty much 100% action.
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>>155775843
So he becomes a damsel in distress now? Fucking dropped.
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>>155776009
First 3 episodes always have the budget though.
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>>155774911
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>>155776265
DELET
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Celica?
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>>155776300
KEK
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>>155776095
>weak faggot

Fucking dropped!

>Gary Stu

Fucking dropped!

>strong but not OP

Fucking dropped!
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>Rape scene immediately shifts to comedy.
If I was some faggot I'd probably say this was offensive or something but I loved every moment of this. So If magic is so good why is there a military style CQC? Do mages just start slugging each other when they run out of magic?
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>>155772207
>MC bullies the girl and makes her cry
I love it
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>>155776360

There are non mages in the army too.
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>>155776321
>FWD trash
>Not even GT4
>Not even magical incest nakamura car
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>>155776360
probably there are lots of plebs who can't into magic and need to kill shit the old fashioned way
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>>155776341
Sorry for being disappointed at someone that cool turning into a damsel in distress.
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How can your dick not grow three sizes when the girl who's usually a bitch makes a face like this and politely asks you to stop
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>>155776360

Magic is a difficult skill and harder to learn then throwing a punch. Best way to beat a magi is to make it so they can't use magic for some reason and then fuck em up since they almost exclusively focus on it, hence why MC designed his magic around it.
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>>155776360
That's like asking why the military teaches CQC when they use guns.
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>>155776520

They work together to beat the bad guys. How the shit is that bad? It's 10 times better than Gary Stu MC winning with no effort.
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>>155776563
This was a good scene. Felt like actual danger for once.
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>>155776563
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>>155776553

It did and I don't like that since I love this girl.
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>>155776563
Honestly for some reason the name Sisti makes me think of some horrible disease like an anal fistula.

The name sounds really weird to me.
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>>155776592
>went from soloing millions to needing a girl to protect him every time
Of course Japan would do this, they need the beta MC audience.
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>>155776563
>>155776635

I'm sure she was drenched at that moment.
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>>155776553
Imagine if one of these lighthearted LN adaptations actually just had the female MC get raped in ep 2.
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>>155776658

Trying too hard Anon-kun.
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>>155776563
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>>155776615
>literally no way she was actually going to be raped
>actual danger
Are you for real?
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>>155776734
I'm just going by what you told me, you did not even deny that he becomes a damsel in distress which means that it's absolutely true and it hurts me.
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So does nobody want to actually talk about magic and occultism?
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Someone post a webm of Lagann using his magical punch ability.
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First the belts now the suspenders.

Stay blessed
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>>155776779
Why does Shock Bolt turn right and how would it turn left?
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>>155776779

We did a couple of times already.

Metamagic lesson was great.
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>>155776779
Aleister Crowley pls go.

Don't you have a city to run?
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I thought the threads wouldn't be reduced to shitposting.
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I want to make lots of babies with Lumia!
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>>155776776
not him but glen's method is getting the drop on mages, using his power so nobody can cast, and punch(kick)/stabbing/whatever them while they are futilely trying to cast. if someone is prepared for him he's weak as shit
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Who the hell is this ironic pepe spammer?
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>>155776563
>cut time from Sisti actually trying to chant spells at bad guys
>add time to rape fanservice
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>>155777103
[Bang]
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>>155776963
Do you know how long it's been since they've had a LN anime to shitpost in? They're just ready to blow a full load.
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wtf
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How is it possible that all males in school aren't hard 24/7?
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>>155777103
Will she join the harem?
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>>155774027
>>155775032
>>155776379

Her eyes are beautiful.
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>>155777267

There is no harem.
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>>155777103
She's best gril, right?
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>>155777239
It's like going to the beach. The view becomes boring after a few minutes.
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>>155777330
Sisti, Lumia, Riel
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>>155777103
Sounds like one of the nest decisions I've heard in a while.
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>enter room
>see this
what do
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>>155777355
Celica
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Sisti is gonna make her way onto the floating island and find nothing but orks and goblins and then they rape her into becoming their queen right?
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>>155777355

Daughteru, daughteru with incestuous tendencies (also bi), baka daughteru.
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>>155772207
If anyone ever deserved to be raped, it was her
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>>155777539
Why didn't he take /jp/? Or /lit/?
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>>155777651
She was mouthy and he knew she would break easy.
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>>155777668
No
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>>155777389
Transfer mana, if you know what I mean.
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>>155777568
Extremely untrue. She did nothing wrong
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>>155777713
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>>155777719
Explain further
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>>155777719
>>155777765
with details
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>>155777389
save her and give head pats
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>>155777764
No
>mfw
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>>155777568
No u
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>>155776553
rapefags are more degenerate than futafags and trapfags combined
kill you are self
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>>155777463
Sistine's kawainess gives me life, she's truly a miracle in the universe
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>>155777800
Well it's obvious, the process could initially cause discomfort to a young girl due to her inexperience. She might struggle. But since she's already tied up and secured, it's a good chance to commence the transfer using your fully charged but also sensitive magic wand.
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Can someone explain the school competition arc to me?

Why was the guard trying to kill Lumia and why was that pendant fucking shit up
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>>155777229
>mfw magical punch kicks in
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>>155778387
>Pendant would kill queen if she didn't follow the pendants demands to kill Lumia, and also if she did some other stuff like taking it off or telling outsiders like Glen the full story. Once Glen activated fools world she was free to take it off
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>>155778430
I want to magically thrust my cock into her womb
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Who designs a school uniform for girls that practically screams "please rape me"? Was it the principle?
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What is your original magic, /a/?
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>>155778725
Defiance of depression.
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>>155778655
Shut up leaf
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>>155772207
I want to rape her but that guy come in and ruin everything
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>>155778844
>implying he didn't save the series
>implying the one time rape did happen it didn't absolutely ruin everything
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>>155778655
I don't know, but I want to shake the hand of whoever it was and tell them they did their country a good service.

>>155778725
Semen blade. The more aroused I get, the more powerful my magic becums.
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>>155778655
>>155776985
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Rape is always wrong
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>>155778946
Except when it isn't.
(it never is)
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>>155778969
its evil
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>>155778946
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>>155779003
That smile tells me that a good dicking can make any girl smile, even if it's rape. So how can that be so bad?
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>>155778725
Magical Loli. Any male within my reach will be turned into a loli when activated.
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>>155779082
Would that make you a loli too?
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>>155778725
REVERSE AKUMA: A huge speed buff when walking backwards.
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>>155779129
Of course.
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So what's the reasoning behind the various effects of Shock Bolt when the incantation is altered? Glen implies that there is one but it's never (or not yet) explained.
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>>155779059
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Lay it on me bluntly, I'm assuming Sisti is winning the MC bowl on the novel right now?
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>>155778725
It's "that".
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>>155779395
No and yes.
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>>155774878
>bullying isn't rape
I bet you think Lumia is pure too.
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>>155779311

Its autosugestion as he pointed out, you arent casting ritual magic but activating something inside you.

This is why he half-assed modified bolt come out how it did, he casted magic but without knowing the result.
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>>155779438
What's "that?"
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>>155778725
Monk
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I now realize that this show requires a pseudo-rape scene every episode.
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>>155779438
You can't actually mean "that", right?
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Few things I enjoy more than a mage who casts fist.
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>>155779613
if only, it's more like per season
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>>155779589
What's that guy in white shirt doing?
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>>155777389
Turn 360° and walk out.
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>>155777568
rape is only for girls who actually do the bullying
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>>155779311
Since it's all auto-suggestion as he mentioned, he probably just made up the effects of the versions with broken casting himself.
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>>155779729
Casting buffs
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>>155779438
do it.
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>>155779791
>>155779557
That's what I don't get though. The way he says it seems to imply that anyone saying those exact incantations will see that effect happening no matter what, as proved by him saying that it's not random, so there must be something in the incantations that auto-suggests to the mind the various effects, like curving the spell right, etc.

The question is how and why these incantations exert their auto-suggestion effects, and are there any other spells where we see similar effects from similar variations?
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>>155779589
>>155779729
>>155779820
Cancel Buffs
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>>155778946
You know, I've always wanted to see a comedy Manga about rake. Not something overblown where the rapist is comically ugly or purposefully hilarious, but something where the Herione gets raped, then traumatized, then trying to get over it while it still looms around in her mind. Play the scenario completely straight and serious, as that's where the best humor comes from. Watch most of the humor come from the life slowly draining out of her before the rapist gets bored of her and tosses her aside.

Not even being sarcastic, I think that would genuinely be fun.
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>>155779997
This image is not okay.
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>>155780020
That post in not okay.
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>>155779997
You'd have to create it yourself. I doubt anyone else would be able to appreciate, let alone extract and present even a modicum of comedic value in a rape scene involving everything you've mentioned.
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>>155780110
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>>155779976
My guess is that he only said the results weren't random so he could have some grounds to stand on and follow up on his lesson. The effect of broken casting probably is indeed random and every person might get something different.
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>>155779976
Parts of the spell probably invokes directional movement, strength, power focus and other aspects of the spell.

Anyway, what I really liked about the episode was how deliberately borking your spells might actually help the spell user. For example, weakening the power is useful for more subtle uses of skill usage. Disrupting directional movement means spells that can move at unorthodox ways. Forgetting power focus causes spells that are good at a single point to spread out, potentially turning spells like Shock Bolt into Forked Lightning.

This isn't like programming where syntax errors can and will cause a spell to fail. In fact, Glen seems to be pointing towards making utility out of misuse of spells.
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So basically as long as you understand how incantations work you can have your magic do literally everything without even needing the proper words for it?
That seems OP and exploitable as shit.
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This serie is good? any pantsu or just fake rape?
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>>155780302
there does seem to be verse limits still
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>>155780123
It's been way too long since I've last read this. Still funny.
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>>155780123
>The honking begins to speed up as the clowns near orgasm and increase the rate of their thrusting
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>>155780369
God-tier uniforms.
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>>155780198
Gotta put it out here: it's been a long time since a spell system has gotten my autism tingling all over. Last time was World Break with its long incantations which is totally appropriate for the broken spells featured.

>>155780302
It's probably Rank 5 to 7 material.

When was the last time such a magic system been bent and manipulated by its users? Most of them are really bound by the systems used, and Rokudenashi was one really standout case where such a case doesn't happen.
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>>155780412
this caught my attention, but I need more. Any god-tier lewd scene?
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>>155779997
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>>155780477
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>Everyone excited except megane

What's his problem?
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>>155780585
He is /a/ so he needs to be contrarian.
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>lumia has the sluttiest scenes
What did they mean by this?
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>>155780585
He thought he was going to be the cool and knowledgeable guy that everyone comes to for help, but sensei stole his thunder.
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>>155780585
W-why is glasses-chan so low? What is she doing with slut-chan?
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>>155780585
It's cramped
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>>155780546
SOLD!
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>>155772207

this show is better than it has any right to be
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>>155780690
Agreed, it's really good for a battle harem.
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Puffy vulva.
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>>155780585
He's upset that pointy hair dude is sitting between him and the girls.
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What is she reading?
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>>155779997

jesus fuck I hope you're on a list dude
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>>155780748
I don't know but with that poor lighting she's gonna turn into a megane character in no time.
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>>155780748
Because she's blushing it must be something hand holding level of lewdness
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What are some important spoilers in this series?
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>>155780784
Sistine rapes Glenn
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Guess I'll be THAT guy and ask if MC will get "romantic" to any of the students
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>>155780784
Sisti dies.
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>>155780784
read the damn manga there's only like 20 chapters done
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>>155780748
It's their textbook, and Rumia is probably testing out a Hello World for magic circle applications.

What I'm baffled about though is the usage of mercury in drawing the magic diagram. Isn't mercury runny as shit? You'd struggle to draw anything using mercury as ink, let alone drawing elaborate shapes and letters.
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>>155780811
21*
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>>155780784

MC is the guy that saved rumia
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>>155780827
Maybe it's magical mercury.
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Book-chan didn't deserve this.
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>>155780827
Why does all it do is light up?
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>>155779578
You're already under the effects of that.
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>>155779452
So status quo?
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>>155781056
If he's going to get Sisti, he's getting Lumia too.
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>>155780840
>spoiler
They made that super obvious in this episode.
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>>155772207
Pretty boring, desu. Sisti is a pretty lame take on the stereotype. That's she's a huge naive hypocrite also makes her bullying inconsequential since she totally deserves it.
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>>155780855
Probably. They do have alchemy as part of the curriculum, so they probably have an "alchemically stabilized mercury" that behaves more like ink or chalk.

>>155780921
Incantation: "Cycle, cycle / oh origin of life / form your path / within the circle of truth"

There are no mentions of any elements or creatures in the spell. Instead, the spell just pertains to "origin of life" (i.e., life force that will be tapped to generate mana and the spell). "Circle of truth" pertains to the magic circle. "Form your path" is the magic spell effect tracing its way around the magic circle, causing the illumination effect.

Should we go and gather the spells used in the series?
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>>155780784
Sisti would want a threesome with Glenn and Rumia.
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>>155781156
Glenn-sensei, how are you so smart?
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>dylan kebold shows up for a quest appearance as a school shooter
Nice
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>>155781183
You get around so many magic concepts when watching anime that you eventually recognize and apply their logic whenever you see something familiar.
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>>155780827
You think they know about mercury poisoning?
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>>155781295
It could be what >>155781156 said—"alchemically stabilized mercury"—but it could be that they were sniffing lots of that stuff among with other things that they eventually developed magic.
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I liked how the mc "de-mystified" magic, it was kinda like when people compare programming to magic but on the opposite direction.

The ending with the bad guys entering the school was dumb as fuck though.
>bad guys can enter the school like nothing
>literally no security
>they both leave and no ones gives a shit about them leaving with two girls
>completely and utter cliche bad guy
>you can't fight without magic because having magic means I don't know about poking people with sharp things
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>>155780827
Mercury isn't runny, it's just extremely fucking heavy so if your "paper" has even the slightest bit of warp to it it'll go all over the place.
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>Glenn proves he's not an idiot like everyone expects
>Student reactions were flawless
>Magical Punch was animated
>It had a proper "what?" reveal, as well as a short and sweet duration

That's it, this is AOTS. Nothing comes close now, nor will it ever come close.
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>>155781355
>literally no security
Pay attention, the security people get shot to death.
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>>155781355
They killed the security guard, I know it's easy to miss because it was barely there, but they were still there. Also, did you not follow the part where all the big heads had left and Glenn was literally the only guy left? There was nothing cliche about him being bad though, he was just having fun. They were quite skilled in their plan actually.
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>>155773156
I want to bully that tummy so hard.
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>>155781397
You mean one lad who might not even be a mage?
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>>155780906
>Intense hammering and penetration in public
Book-chan got shamed in front of so many people, then left hanging. That's some hardcore BDSM shit. How was that not censored?
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>>155781397
>people
More like person.
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>>155781355
He didn't de-mystify magic as much as he just explained to them how magic works and that it's not just memorizing bullshit. It's actually explain what, why and how.
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>>155779589
>fresh Brazilian memes

Nice.

Also, I am enjoying this show greatly, probably more than any other this season.
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>>155781460
He also told them it's not so great and not so special, less useful than agricultural science.
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>>155777568
This. She's an uptight bully that thinks of herself as hot shit. It's actually kind of boring since it's predictable she'll be put in her place by plot everytime she tries to be independent and do something important without crediting or thinking about MC. Then she'll lash out at her usual victim to feel better about herself.

Fucking disgusting bitch. I hope she gets raped all the way.
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>>155781397
The manga shows them killing the guards but because they rushed the anime they skipped it.
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>>155781421
Does this mean there is someone who told the bad guys that the school would be open only for him and his students?
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what's kind of thier relationship?
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>>155781551
Mom son
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>>155781538
Uh, yeah, that's exactly what happened. They also placed a ward so no one even go near the area at all. Terrorists may look like dumbasses sometimes, but these guys were prepared.
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>>155781538
Yes. It's later revealed, possibly at the end of episode 3 or during 4.

If you want a mild spoiler; The one who told them is a teacher at the school who knows about Lumia's history. I won't say who because they haven't been introduced yet in the show.
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>>155781397
Screenshot makes it seem like the security guy is saying it
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>>155781217
Sisti weak shit confirmed.
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>>155781524
The rapist terrorist was the most relateable character so far.
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>>155781580
The ward is a warning sign that something was going on and to call some police in the zone.
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>>155777229
>throw a kick
>call it a punch

Why must nips do this?
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>>155776996
> Glen weak as shit meme
Glen can cast the most destructive magic that literally break apart atoms
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>>155781573
But do they fuck?
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>>155776292
>as a Kekite
Goddamn it's not even holding back in using plebbit ebonics
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>>155781485
Yet they build a gigantic institution specialized on teaching the stuff. Is this a social commentary about the flaws of modern day education?
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>>155781666
Glen is Onii-sama?
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>>155776379
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>>155781621
Pretty much.
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I cast magic fist!
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>>155781551

She once had a lover and almost got married with him but when her lover found out that she is immortal, he immediately dump her, call her freak monster and run away. it's pretty much broke her heart.

;...;
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>>155781697
This was pretty obvious when Glenn talked about how education is bullshit because no one questions it. Glenn then went on to explain why it's important to actually learn.
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Glenn is redpilling all these students. Is he the Alex Jones of anime?
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>>155774235
Sounds about right.
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>>155774027
>Girl clearly has pig ears
FTFY
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Oh how I adore these two, if only the chapter was translated.
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>>155781702
Onii-sama can wipe the floor with Glen.

Glen character is strong but not invicible. He can still get backstabbed or defeated unprepared like any other character in this series.
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>>155781735

Why is she immortal and is Glenn the same?
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>>155781697
That, but I also thought he was talking about something like nuclear power, huge potential to help people but used for weapons.
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>>155781777
>Alex "Fraud" Jones
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>>155781735
Why
You get a hot wife who stays hot forever, why would you dump her
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>>155781809
>dumb tsundere bitch gets the Mc
Typical. We can't have the shy deredere or the awesome sorceress win, no, it's got to be the dumb tsundere cunt. Fuck this shit.
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>>155781862
Homosexuality
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>>155781880
Can't she use magic to grow a penis?
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>>155781833
It's be too good to be true if the world, and japan of all places, stopped being irrationally afraid of nuclear power.
>>155781735
>when her lover found out that she is immortal, he immediately dump her, call her freak monster and run away
What a fucking faggot.
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>>155781868
To be fair, he isn't even awake and to my knowledge was clueless. As far as them being together there like 8 light novels so I can't tell who is winning that race.
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>>155781862
To spare her the grief of having to outlive him?
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>>155781913
Oh. Still though, I already know how it's going to end.
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good episode.
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>>155781923
Better to have loved and lost than never loved at all, particularly if there was a specific person who reciprocated your feelings. Every couple has one person die before the other anyway, that doesn't stop them.
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>>155781976

Both episodes have been good. Too bad the show's only getting 12 episodes. I hate that we can't have nice things.
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>>155781959
Yeah at this point its easy to tell who the author pairs and not to mention her friend is supportive of it as well (more obvious in the manga chapters so far). Another girl is obsessed with him for reasons I wont spoil but it isn't a healthy one and he knows that. The only competition she has is the one in the pic.
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>>155782052
She's dead
Lumia and Sisti have parts of her personality. It just wouldn't feel right if he only had half of his dead lover back now would it?
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>>155781959
Oh and another thing, she's not that half bad but tsundere thing is more of "Don't screw this up, I like you, and I don't want you getting fired or abandoning on us." type of thing. She's actually supportive of him and its made clear in the festival start up discussion but idk how well the anime will portray that. Still, as far as doing something for him up front the shyness is still there but that's kind of aplenty in characters.
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I have never liked this magical school harem anime, but I watched this out of curiosity and I'm actually liking it.
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>>155782174
I don't get why nobody sees how this anime is subverting the genre.
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>>155782147
Oh, well then...thanks for the information.
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>Glenn-sensei will never teach you magic
>you will never learn how to cast fist
Why live?
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>>155782204
>tfw spoilerfags make it seem like he casts fist
>he actually knows martial arts
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>>155782189
In what way?
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>>155781976
>draw a pig
>call it a cat
Why?
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>>155781156
Anyway made this list.

Episode 1

[The angel's blessings be with you]
Color: bright yellow
Element: Light
Effect: Heals minor wounds. Can reverse immediate effects like release of blood caused by injury.

[Pay heed / great wind]
Color: green
Element: Wind
Effect: Summons a powerful gust of wind capable of throwing someone several meters into the air.

[Return thyself to the cycle of providence / the five elements to elements / and sever the links woven between images and truths]
Color: red
Element: Fire?
Effect: Unleashes a massive beam that destroys anything in its path. Beam radius is about two meters; beam range is several tens of meters.

Episode 2

[Cycle, cycle / oh origin of life / form your path / within the circle of truth]
Color: none
Element: Neutral
Effect: A basic spell that illuminates the magic circle used.

Name: Shock Bolt
[Thunder sprites / pay heed / and strike with your electric shock] (standard version)
[Thunder sprites / shock] (standard two-part shortened version)
[Well / anyway / paralyze] (three-part custom chant, weaker than standard)
Color: purple
Element: Lightning
Effect: Creates a lightning bolt that can paralyze targets.

[Corruption / fester]
Effect: unknown

[Bang]
Color: purple
Element: Lightning
Effect: Similar to Shock Bolt, but with a much faster cast time and stronger destructive effect. Capable of denting stone. Considered as military-grade.
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Lumia a shit.
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>>155782298
The fisting wasn't too good
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>>155782298

That's a nice kick. Good form.
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>>155782283
>Element: Fire?
I hope you're joking, anon. It literally says five elements to elements. That implies it's a combination.
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>>155782343
That's not a kick.
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>>155782283
Not sure what to think, do we need a magicdex? Would probably be something for the wikia content page cause the rest of the show isn't going to go much further into magic analysis and descriptions like its done now to get the jist of its philosophy.
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>>155782283
>[Well / anyway / paralyze] (three-part custom chant, weaker than standard)
I chuckled.
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>>155782344
The created magic circle is red, which implies fire.
But then again she's a Rank 7 mage, so it could really be an elemental combination spell.

>>155782362
The wikia for this show is fucking barren aside from someone who is uploading images of Episode 1.
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>>155782436
>wikia
Read the novels
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>>155782475
I was pertaining to the idea of getting a wikia for compiling the spells used in the series.
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>>155780748
Why do they only where a glove on one hand?
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>>155782362
What if you put together [The angel's blessings be with you thunder sprites]?

Would it buff lightning magic?
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>>155782520
>getting a wikia
Google docs. Only so that normies don't benefit from your autism.
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>>155782529
It might blow your face off. Experimenting with magic seems like a dumb thing to do.
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>>155782590
Was thinking of Pastebin.
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>>155782610
Didn't you hear Glenn? If you don't experiment, you're just a fraud of a mage who always recites the same thing and get the same results. Might as well be a mirror.
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>>155782626
and you will know Glen's class by the trail of the dead
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>>155782529
Its not about the words but the association with the words as demonstrated by Glenn from his shortened version of the 3 syllable spell. Plus the angel one is healing and the other is shock bolt, I don't see how it would help each other.
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>>155782529
Shock Therapy. You'd shock a person back to life, or at least get their blood pumping again.
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Are the effects of the words on magic objective or subjective? as in, it is the same for everybody or is it different?
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>>155774235
Original magic isn't exactly hard, what's hard is producing something that's better than what's already available as general magic. Like The Fools World even comes with various flaws he couldn't refine away like not being able to project the zone at a center that isn't himself and having no way to manually dispel it or control it's effect duration.
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>>155775633
I lurk for 10 years and still not understand.
How can a good girl like her compared to autistic scums who fap to 3DPD JAV and mastered a degree in circlejerking that is /jp/?
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>>155782740
Fool's World is also more like a program than just a spell. It had to be shoved into a card to be used, so it probably has to be either really time-consuming or inconvenient to invoke conventionally.
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>>155775556
In the LN Lightning pierce punched a hole clean through the wall and Glen sees it from outside.
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>>155782740
found the page for you
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>>155782790
Alright. So Universal Magic is memes, and Original Magic is original content, donut steel.
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>>155782790
>shironeko and bunny sit in opposite places
what the fuck
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>>155782790
It never really dawned on me until the anime aired, but Lumia should have some funky hair color like blue or pink. Blonde just doesn't feel right.
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>>155781976
Bully sisti!
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>>155782930
Blonde does feel right though.
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>>155781976
I wanna beat the white cat's face red.
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>>155782041
With current pace, 4 vol? Assuming the kidnapping event end at next ep.
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>>155783023
yeah it'll probably finish sports day and if we're lucky parent's day for ova
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>>155782283
I'm impressed, for what I thought would be yet another shitty magic school battle harem this has quite a detailed magic system. And an interesting MC. So far this has been the best anime this season.
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>>155783086
I figure most magic systems are like this and just aren't explained in detail because no one would care. It just happens to work in this case because the MC is a teacher.
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>>155782283
Extinction ray as cast by Celica is actually shorthand, the base chant is 7-verse.
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>>155783103
They aren't explained in detail because explaining magic is limiting and could lead to problems if you are not a good writer.
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>>155783103
>explaining magic
Then magic becomes less magical.
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>>155783164
This is a stupid thing to say and you should feel bad.
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>>155783103
Mahouka takes a more scientific look at how magic spells are made, and has a much stronger programming background.
Rental Magica and Index feature spells that can be traced back to occult and folkloric origins.

>>155783118
That reminds me of World Break spells.

Moroha used this 13-verse spell, Ouroboros, once:

Everything began with water.
Everything will return to water.
There for water is life and death.
The birthing mother and the swallowing snake.
Everything flows. Not even time itself can escape.
Like a boat at the mercy of a mighty river, all are swallowed in the end.
Oh, heartless nature of transience.
Yet I will love the heartlessness and transience deeply.
I have long forgotten my mother’s face.
My body will become a snake with its mouth wide open, and level everything.
Insatiable, endless emptiness.
Endless pleasure, never stagnating.
All things must flow, back into my stomach.
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>>155783118
Yep.

>I am the one who slays the gods · I am the one who knows the origin’s beginning and end · Return this to the providence of the cycle · Return all that is composed of five elements to the five elements · In order to unweave the binds of anomaly and logic · the creations of nature shall hereby scatter · to the end of the distant void

>>155783178
Where do you draw the line between magic and science?
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>>155783086
>And an interesting MC
It just more logical when the teacher save the day rather than the student.
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>>155783197
>Where do you draw the line between magic and science?
That's not a line that needs to be drawn. That's like saying, where do you draw the line between animals and classic literature?
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>>155783164
You ever seen or read Harry Potter? They explain shit about spells every class
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>>155781663
That's the joke.
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>>155783212
>It just more logical when the teacher save the day rather than the student.
damn right
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>>155772207
>purposefully portrayed as weak at the start
>ability to cancel any magic
>high physical combat skills
Poor man's Mahouka. MC is a toned down version of onii-sama in terms of ability.
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>>155783222
>animals
You should call it zoology you uncultured swine.
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>>155783222
>That's not a line that needs to be drawn
>That's like saying, where do you draw the line between animals and classic literature?
No it's really not. There's a vast, great difference between animals and books, but if you explain magic to the point of it just being a scientific truth, something to be worked with as if it was any other scientific principle, it's not very magical, is it?
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>>155783239
Harry Potter has a terrible magic system thats very internally inconsistent and every time it's used in the story it feels like an asspull.

Harry Potter is a very good example of how not to write magical protagonists.
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>>155783197
>Where do you draw the line between magic and science?
Magic is a science of their world. What you're thinking of is something of a higher level that transcends science, magic, and all rules, you're taking about the will to do illogical stuff because fuck you. That's totally different.
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>>155783277
>>155783279
Congratulations on missing the point, I guess.

"Magic" and "science" are not the same kind of thing and they don't lie on the same spectrum so it's impossible to "draw a line" between them.

Science is a method for obtaining knowledge, magic is whatever the author wants it to be.
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>>155783239
>1 word incantation
>wand waving

Thats so simple its fucking boring. The characters too are absolute garbage.
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>>155783306
>magic is whatever the author wants it to be
and sometimes the author wants it to be a science
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>>155783280
Why doesn't someone just shoot the noseless bad guy?

>>155783287
>What you're thinking of is something of a higher level that transcends science, magic, and all rules
Yes, magic. Ain't gotta explain shit. Magic is magical only when it transcends and violates the common rules of our world.

>>155783306
>Science is a method for obtaining knowledge, magic is whatever the author wants it to be.
Yeah, but we were talking about explaining magic in-depth and magic losing its magical nature in the process, as it stops being the kind of magic you talk about.
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Magic isn't real lads
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>opening pandora's box about magic and science
why do you do this
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>>155783344
Even your eyes aren't real.
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>>155783344
Wish crossboarding wasn't real either.
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>>155783222
>>155783306
Wrong. Science is concerned with how a world works. If systemic magic exists in their world then it's a science. If greek gods existed then greek theology would be considered a subset of physics.
What you're talking about is nonsystemic magic, also known as divine magic, also known as "fuck you I'm the DM", which is obviously not how their magic works, if they have a school around it.
If you can "study" magic to get better at using it, then it is by definition a science, because it both exists as a physical system and can be explained systemically.

>>155783197
>Where do you draw the line between magic and science?
You don't draw one. Systemic magic is itself a science, if it existed in reality then physics would be concerned with it as physics is literally just the study of the world in its entirety. I mean isn't gravity pretty fucking magical? It's like a rope that gets weaker the longer it gets but there isn't a rope.

>>155783312
Snape was the hero the story didn't deserve
I don't know if Rowling realized she made Snape into a better person than literally everyone else combined.
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>>155783356
It's better than debating the autist that foolishly insists it's not a battle harem.
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>>155783328
Does voldemort even have an answer to a good handgun?
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>>155783263
Glen can't disintegrate humans at will and self repair from the edge of death though, which are Onii-sama's main features. Shit like spell jamming and CQC are secondary to the character.
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>>155783239
Thanks for inviting /tv/
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>>155783388
>a good handgun
Speaking of which, mc later use handgun.
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>>155783328
>magic losing its magical nature
"Magical nature" and "magic is magical, aint gotta explain shit" bullshit is the very lowest tier of fantasy, and fantasy is already a genre that's rife with bad writing.

You lose very little by explaining your magic, and what you gain in exchange is the ability for your protagonists to use magic.

If you don't explain your magic system and don't keep it consistent with itself, then any time your protagonist uses magic to solve a problem it feels like an asspull or a deus ex machina. You lose any tension you could possibly have if the reader doesn't know the limitations and rules of the magic in your world. That's why explaining it is essential.

On the other hand, if you want magic to be a force of nature that does whatever the fuck it wants, a-la Greek gods or Gandalf, then keep it out of the hands of protagonists.

Since this anime is about magic using protagonists, explaining the magic is essential for the enjoyment of the series.
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>>155783377
>I mean isn't gravity pretty fucking magical
No, not really.
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>>155783441
This anon gets it.
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>>155783377
Magnets are magic too right
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>>155783473
Magic magnets are magic too.
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>>155783441
Couldn't of said it any better.
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I liked how Arcanum defined magic as something that goes against the natural flow while science/technlogy follows it, it's a good system in my opinion.
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>>155783473
Gravity is also a magic, your body isn't even an iron. A divine class magic.
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>>155783423
I'd say "do you mean /lit/" but /lit/ rightfully exiles Harry Potter to the abyss.

>>155783441
>magic is magical ain't gotta explain shit
Is incredibly useful as long as you don't give it to the MCs.

>>155783443
Because you understand it, sure. Being able to speed up your spin by drawing your legs and arms in looks unintuitive; that you can fall but never hit the ground is unintuitive; that a steel ball actually distorts and heats up when it hits the ground is unintuitive; that you have ice at 500 degrees is unintuitive; that strong magnets can basically decompose you is unintuitive; that tides are a thing because the moon and sun are a thing is unintuitive; that you can turn off the sun and nobody would know until eight minutes later is unintuitive. Physics, to the uninformed, is "magical".

>>155783473
To someone who doesn't understand them, yes, they are. The only reason they aren't to us is because we're familiar with them and they're a fact of life. The first magnetic compasses were used to divine the fucking future and lodestones were sacred in some old societies for the reason that if you spun it sideways it'd always face the same direction without interference, as if by magic.
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>>155783514
That doesn't mean much because if magic exists and is possible in the world then it's a part of the natural flow. It's like saying "lifting a rock goes against the natural flow so it must be magic", no, lifting a rock is something you do by physical laws. Magic, if it existed, would necessarily have to be a physical law by definition.

>>155783519
What the fuck are you talking about?
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>>155783441
You're right, anon. I concede.
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So who is winning the bowl? I need to know so I don't get my hopes up.
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>>155783543
You had to spend energy to use spells, so mentally I imagined it as a form of energy you had to spend to make work against nature.
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>>155783543
>Magic, if it existed, would necessarily have to be a physical law by definition.
In Arcanum they're not though. They violate the known laws of physics and exist with their own rules, which actually cause issues and very slight breakdown of reality. At least that's how I remember it.
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>>155783585
Yep, you couldn't use trains because you caused them to stop working.
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>>155783572
I mean we spend energy to exist among other things, calories are energy units.
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>>155783569
Harem end.
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Y R ANIME GIRL SO CUTE N HOT N SEXY
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>>155783598
Wrong.
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>>155783611
Mana isn't calories though. It isn't used to counter entropy.
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>>155783569
Not best girl, sadly.

>>155783572
That makes sense, but the fact that magical energy is interconvertible with physical energies would mean that magical energy is part of the world "system", i.e. magic is part of physics, i.e. using magic isn't going against the "flow of nature" any more than using a water pump to pump a river uphill is.

>>155783585
>exist with their own rules
I might be misunderstanding what you're trying to say but doesn't that mean they're in a subset of physics in which normal laws fuck up hard? QM and GR basically give the finger to classical physics of all sorts, and QM doesn't even strictly obey conservation laws what with the ability to basically take an energy loan from the Bank of Kosmos. In situations where QM / magic is invoked, normal laws stop working.
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>>155783620
>Wrong
>Latest volume was literally Celica winning
>Side Stories are literally Celica
???
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>>155783585
>They violate the known laws of physics and exist with their own rules
Uh, I'm with that other anon here. The "laws of physics" aren't something that's set in stone.

If there exists something that "violates the known laws of physics" then the laws of physics would be updated to include that something into them, thus the "laws of physics" would logically include whatever magic exists in that universe. Even if magic was really hard to understand that nobody had any theories yet, at most what you'd get from a physicist is an "I don't know" and not "this shit is magic, not physics, I'm out."

This is a common problem with fantasy writers who have little understanding of how science works.
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>>155783598
>best girl
>winning

>>155783643
>but doesn't that mean they're in a subset of physics in which normal laws fuck up hard?
Yes. The two groups of physical laws are also in constant conflict and stop eachother from working based on their individual "strength" in the area. Ie. a mage will find his gun just not working because fuck physics and so forth. Although all I know is from some /tg/ greentext I read a few years ago, so I could be wrong.
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>>155783635
Maximum entropy is defined as the state where the energy gradient between two arbitrary points in a system is zero, meaning there's no useable energy anywhere. If you have magical energy and the surroundings have less that's an energy gradient right there. If you lift a rock into the air, you've just reduced the entropy of the rock/earth system (if not total entropy), it doesn't matter if you do it via muscle power, electromagnets, or Mage Hand.
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>>155783665
Youre actually retarded.
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>>155783689
>youre retarded
>doesnt link any counter evidence
>doesnt say anything
Get out of here already Mario
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Watching this thread get reduced to a bunch of autists having an argument over magic is depressing.
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>>155783666
The only time magic isn't physics is when magic is actually arbitrary or exists above the purview of physics. Featherine and the Fates exist outside of physics, while Othinus and Goku and such don't.
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>>155783714
>he doesn't know about Raildex threads
Plus this is pretty bog-standard on /tg/
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>>155783706
That is because you are retarded. If you really read all volumes of the novels then you should know full well who isn't winning the fucking bowl. But you don't so you're just dense as fuck.
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>>155783715
Physics isn't a thing. You can't be "outside of physics."

Saying something is outside of physics is meaningless and incorrect in all cases. At most you could say "out current knowledge of physics cannot explain this phenomenon."
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>>155783666
Don't think of it so logically. I don't know the system well enough to explain it in detail. In Arcanum, as far as I know, there are two sets of rules, which simply cannot exist at the same time in the same place. Sure, they all fall under the laws of physics, but they are essentially two different dimensions, with their own different laws.

>>155783675
Yeah, I fucked up. I meant to say that mana isn't used to counter entropy directly in the human body and its systems, like the energy received from food is.
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>>155783714
>reduced

I think you mean evolve.
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>>155783734
>Plus this is pretty bog-standard on /tg/
The problem here though is that this isn't /tg/
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>>155783752
nice source idiot
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>>155783752
Cat girl is winning right?
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>>155783714
>reduced
Go and stay away. Magical discussions are far more interesting than whatever waifu/pig circlejerks there would be at this point otherwise.
If you want proper discussion about the series, then start it, don't just whine like a retard.
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>>155783715
Probability changing magic wouldn't be physics I don't think.

>>155783754
If a god says "poof this world is gone" and poof the world is just gone just because he wills it that would be outside physics wouldn't it?
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>>155783811
>Probability changing magic wouldn't be physics I don't think.
Why not?
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>>155783764
>Don't think of it so logically
Just because the authors didn't think about it doesn't mean I have to sink to their level.

It is entirely unbelievable that in a world with magic, scientists would just give up and go "this ain't my problem" and move on with their lives.

This is a large problem with pretty much every fantasy work that tries to mix modern science with magic, and very few authors manage to do that mixture well.
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Magic is just assumption when there is a new element which that element could be produced, stored, and manipulated by human organ. That new element had to be capable of influencing quarks at some level.
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>>155783811
>outside physics
Again, there is no such thing. So no, god saying "poof this world is gone" is not outside physics, it's just outside human knowledge.
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>>155783754
No, I'm the other anon you're agreeing with, but physics is a thing. Physics is the study of the world, the physical world in particular but often extended to the World in general, as a system that universally applies to that world. The key idea of physics, after all, is that there should be rules that apply everywhere.
You'll note that the entities I described as "outside of physics" are metapotent in nature. To give the clearest example, Gary exists outside of D&D's 'physics', as does a That DM's DMPC. Sure, they have their OWN sets of physics, but they're not incorporated into the setting physics. At an even higher level, an ontological being is outside of physics because physics actually exists with him as a baseline, physics is to him what set theory is to mathematics.

>>155783764
>two different dimensions
That's still two sets of physical laws. I think you mean that there's two worlds competing for dominance.

>>155783776
/a/ is ten times more autistic than /tg/ wishes it could be, and this is a natual tangent.

>>155783811
>Probability changing magic wouldn't be physics I don't think.
>If a god says "poof this world is gone" and poof the world is just gone just because he wills it that would be outside physics wouldn't it?
No, because of the fact that he could do it at all.
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>>155783834
>It is entirely unbelievable that in a world with magic, scientists would just give up and go "this ain't my problem" and move on with their lives.
They don't. The two dimensions simply clash intrinsically and cause the other to stop working whenever one has a strong enough presence in an area. The mages and magic users work with magic, while the other fucks work with steam level technology. Magick works through changing reality with your own mind, while technology does not really change anything.
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>>155783643
>would mean that magical energy is part of the world "system"
I think it depends on how much you can study it.

A water pump to pump a river is a constant system with consistent rules and any time it deviates from its pattern is because of an outside problem. It uses an energy source to do this work, let's say a fire.

Magically lifting water instead is about "re-writing" the world to make it so that, for example, the density of water in a very specific zone is less than the density of air, making it go upwards. The surface tension of water is also modified in a way to it keeps water from leaving.
Now, these rules are still physical laws, so in a sense, it's not working against nature. I consider it working against nature because you had to modify the rules.

I am not sure if this makes sense.
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>>155783851
If someone can destroy reality on a global scale and replace it with their own reality that's straight up above physics, because it shows that they're not subject to the world's physics, the world's physics is subject to them. People on this level can retcon themselves into existence with the powers they had after they did it; all of them exist above time, some of them exist above the concept of existing.
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>>155783976
So you're saying that magic is directly changing facts of nature while machinery is simply acting out consequences of it? I can see that, the thing is depending on how it actually works. If it uses magical energy then it's easily possible that the act of changing those facts would be possible anyway as a consequence of physics.
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>>155783869
>physics is a thing. Physics is the study of the world
Well yes, and as such, you cannot be "outside physics." That is not a meaningful frame.

And by the way, physics is the study of how the universe behaves, as in "knowledge of nature," and if, continuing your D&D example, John the D&D physicist wants to study the physics of his world, he'll eventually have to make it to Gary and the DM and their world and whatever other level he can make.

You are fundamentally misusing the word "physics," there aren't multiple sets of "physics" or whatever. It's all justs physics, the knowledge of nature, regardless of what that nature involves, even if it's magic or us being part of a hologram or a simulation or whatever, it's all the same physics.

Just because tomorrow we might discover that our whole universe is a simulation, well the physics of that computer that's simulating us is still just physics.
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>>155783851
>>155783869
How if the explanation for it is "because he willed it so" and that matter is just gone?
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>>155783978
>because it shows that they're not subject to the world's physics, the world's physics is subject to them.
No. That just means the world's physics had that aspect to them and we were unaware of them.
>People on this level can retcon themselves into existence with the powers they had after they did it; all of them exist above time, some of them exist above the concept of existing.
Yeah and if they do so, that level of existence is a part of physics.
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>>155783978
>the worlds physics
Is not a rigid, static thing. It's updated as the breadth of knowledge increases. Just because it can't be explain yet doesn't mean there's no explanation.
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>>155784013
Magic uses some combination of mana and the mind of the individual to enact forces and changes on the world, while machinery and technology is the world interacting with itself. Imagine a mind-body dualism and you may see where it's coming from.
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>>155784038
That's not an explanation. The natural question that follows "why is he able to will it so" and "how does the process of the matter going from there to gone works" and a bunch of other questions.

That's just how it works. Anything can be studied, and science is a method for studying things, thus science applies to everything.
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>>155784038
Then "his will" is a physically explainable thing that is physically interacting with the physical world.
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>>155781355
most of the staff was out on some sort of conference or some shit
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>>155781355
>literally no security
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>>155783714
>reduced
GS threads turn into D&D threads all the time and those are great
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>>155784066
>>155784059
You're not thinking high enough. Physics is the study of the world, but the world is a logical frame. The physics of Harry Potter has nothing to do with the physics of the paper on which it was written and the physics of the person who wrote it.
It's not about the ability of explanation, nor about the idea of updating, nor about hidden aspects. The fanfiction I write has no physical relationship to me, while the worldsystem is subordinate to my thinking; therefore, I exist above the physics of the fanfiction I write.

>>155784033
>that is not a meaningful frame
It is not a meaningful frame insofar as that frame is completely inaccessible. To put it another way, in your idea of "simulation", we have no way of finding this to be true or false, the physics of the simulation has nothing at all to do with our physics, and does not exist for us; someone who decides to fuck with the sim would affect our world but not in a way we could understand via understanding of his, only through understanding of our own.
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>>155784147
Not literally literally but figuratively literally.
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>>155784077
If magic enacts changes on the world/universe then it fall in the purview of physics, end of story.
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>>155784168
This is the thing you don't get, and I'm the one you're agreeing with.
If something enacts changes WTIHIN the physical world, then it falls within physics. If something enacts changes UPON the physical world, then it does not fall within physics.
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You all should create thesis rather than arguing here.
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>>155784153
>we have no way of finding this to be true or false
This could be false. Most likely is.
>the physics of the simulation has nothing at all to do with our physics
This is false.
>not in a way we could understand
This is definitely false. Nothing is stopping us from understanding a simulation we're part of or understanding the physics of how that simulation is made.

>>155784186
No, the problem is that you don't get what physics is. You're simply using the word wrong.
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>>155784232
>theses
There's no real need to write a thesis on metaphysics 101.
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>>155784148
To be fair GS already has elements of /tg/ in its DNA, so diverging off into that tangent won't really hurt it. It usually does the opposite since that's where it originated from. Here not so much.
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>>155784013
>would be possible anyway as a consequence of physics.
Possibly. It could be like chemistry and physics, where you can theoretically know everything from physics but in practice it's impossible (at least for now) because of how complicated it is.
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>>155784153
>The physics of Harry Potter has nothing to do with the physics of the paper on which it was written and the physics of the person who wrote it.
Yeah, they do. The paper it is written on, the ink, the ideas it contains, the person writing it, the person reading it, they are all subject to the rules of OUR world and could not exist without them.
>The fanfiction I write has no physical relationship to me
Except that it would not exist without you and our laws of physics.
>therefore, I exist above the physics of the fanfiction I write.
No, you don't. The text on the paper is subject to our laws, the ideas it forms in our brains likewise. The world you have written is not free from our world. It exists within ours and is entirely dependent on it.
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>>155784168
Ah sorry, I mistook your reply to be a part of another chain.
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>>155774027
I am a human but people have to refer to me as "attack helicopter" clearly she sexually identifies as a cat
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>/a/ hates battle harems
>/a/ literally loves Rokudenashi

Riddle me that.
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>>155784244
>No, the problem is that you don't get what physics is. You're simply using the word wrong.
Bitch I AM a physicist. A system of physics describes a worldsystem. You're confusing a worldsystem with a worldstate. Something that changes a worldstate by interacting with the worldsystem falls within physics, because physics describes that worldsystem. But anything that can actually fucking change the worldsystem itself is not physics.
Want an example? If I were to write code in some language, say C, then the way C works can be construed as the "physics" of programming in C. No matter what I do to it, the physics of programming in C can perfectly describe it. Makes sense - you can't escape the confines of C by using more C. But imagine I rewrite the language from scratch, I can now escape C, I've changed the "physics" of C; whatever I used to change the physics of C can't be described by the laws of C, because it literally exists outside of C itself.

>most likely is
No, this is ontologically impossible. "Simulation" is not meaningfully different from a worldsystem once it fully describes a consistent worldsystem, because a worldsystem is itself, by definition, closed.

>>155784264
>Yeah, they do. The paper it is written on, the ink, the ideas it contains, the person writing it, the person reading it, they are all subject to the rules of OUR world and could not exist without them.
And does not have anything to do with the physics of Harry Potter, as opposed to our world.

>Except that it would not exist without you and our laws of physics.
And OUR LAWS have nothing to do with FICTIONAL LAWS.

>The text on the paper is subject to our laws, the ideas it forms in our brains likewise
Read you dumb fucking shit. "I exist above the physics of the fanfiction". Physics is not something that exists in a vacuum. Physics is something that only has meaning when referring to a worldsystem to describe.
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>>155784379
>>/a/ hates battle harems
Since when?
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>>155784435
Since Absolute Duo.
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>>155784244
>Nothing is stopping us from understanding a simulation we're part of or understanding the physics of how that simulation is made.
Besides us being you know within the sim
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>>155784401
>And does not have anything to do with the physics of Harry Potter, as opposed to our world.
The entire world of Harry Potter is simply a subsystem of our world. Destroy our world and Harry Potter stops existing, so it's clearly very much dependent on our physics, unless you wish to make the ontological claim that the idea world exists independently?
>And OUR LAWS have nothing to do with FICTIONAL LAWS.
Those fictional "laws" are created by individuals living in a world governed by our laws and those fictional laws' entire "existence" depends on the laws of our world. They are nothing more than a subsystem.
>Read you dumb fucking shit
I am reading and doing my best to refute what I deem to be incorrect. No need to be so rude.
>"I exist above the physics of the fanfiction"
The (true) physics of the fanfiction are the physics of our world, so you do not exist above them. The physical laws of your fanfiction world are simply a small, (false) part of our real world physics. The laws in the fanfiction do not actually rule over the world, but what rules over the fanworld are OUR laws of physics, converted into a story through a human medium. The fanfiction world does not exist outside of the idea of it. It's existence consists of text and memes and its laws of physics are not real.
>Physics is something that only has meaning when referring to a worldsystem to describe.
I don't quite understand the point you are trying to make at the end here, could you elaborate?
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>>155784445
that OP was so good

shame about the show though
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>>155784401
>But anything that can actually fucking change the worldsystem itself is not physics.
Were you one of the anons that replied to me here or no? >>155784038 If I'm not misunderstanding this would mean my hypothetical god's actions would be outside physics since matter was being destroyed wouldn't it?
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>>155784513
I wanna smother up that face with my dick
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>>155778725
Teleportation, with precision the likes that I could teleport right behind you right now and the only information I need is your post number
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>>155784595
>would be outside physics since matter was being destroyed wouldn't it?
No. That would mean it is outside of our understanding of physical laws, but not outside of physics itself.
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>>155784401
>Bitch I AM a physicist
Doesn't mean you can't use the word wrong. Unfortunately for you, being a physicist doesn't make you an authority on what physics is. For the record, I also am one, not that it matters.

You are ascribing things to physics that physics isn't. Physics is merely a system of knowledge, it's how we learn how the world works. Saying that something is part of physics or not part of physics is meaningless in this case. If it affects out world, we can study it, if we can study it then it's part of physics for us. That's literally it. You're confusing "physics" with "laws of physics that govern out world."

>Makes sense - you can't escape the confines of C by using more C.
Okay, I'm going to have to stop you there because this is entirely wrong on entirely too many levels. This example doesn't make one bit of sense.

In fact, it would be entirely possible to use C to learn a lot of things about how a processor works, using nothing but C, because C still exists within the confines of our physics.

Pick another example, preferably one that does not involve programming languages, or better yet, don't pick another example.

Anyway, I'm done arguing this, because this moved so far from the original point that it's become meaningless, as often happens of 4chan. Additionally this argument has become unstructured and confused.
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>>155778725
Something that makes people happy.
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>>155784513
>The entire world of Harry Potter is simply a subsystem of our world
Doesn't work that way, if we refer to Harry Potter physics as a seperate entity when compared to our own physics we are automatically making the ontological assumption that the world is independent, whether or not it originated as a sub-world.

>The (true) physics of the fanfiction are the physics of our world, so you do not exist above them. The physical laws of your fanfiction world are simply a small, (false) part of our real world physics. The laws in the fanfiction do not actually rule over the world, but what rules over the fanworld are OUR laws of physics, converted into a story through a human medium. The fanfiction world does not exist outside of the idea of it. It's existence consists of text and memes and its laws of physics are not real.
In which case you're missing the point. By describing it as a subsystem, you fail to understand that just because it is a subsystem does not mean it isn't an independent, logically closed system. The fact of the matter is that the complete, logically closed physics of a worldsystem does not include provisions to change that worldsystem from outside or within (or else it wouldn't be logically closed); ergo, the ability to change the worldsystem can exist outside of any set of physics that completely describes that worldsystem, and always outside of physics that only describes that worldsystem.

>I don't quite understand the point you are trying to make at the end
See above. You can (but I'm not doing so) treat each subworld as an entity with respect to the world in which it exists, but that doesn't mean it isn't itself a complete worldsystem. Any complete worldsystem can have physics to accompany it.

>>155784595
No I wasn't.
Matter being destroyed is changing worldstate, not worldsystem. The ability to globally decide "okay so the physics that was always true (whether or not you knew them) is no longer true" is changing worldsystem.
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>>155784625
The faces and bodies in this show seem subtly wrong to me and it makes me uncomfortable, but I can't place my finger on why exactly that is.
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>>155784649
I get what you say. I think the heads are too big, but I am not sure.
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>>155778725
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>>155784632
>Physics is merely a system of knowledge, it's how we learn how the world works
>how we learn
Wrong. Physics is the study of the physical world at large, and the subject of physical study is a worldsystem (the one where the study resides in).

>you're confusing physics with laws of physics that govern our world
Because "physics", as in "physical laws", only make sense in relationship to a world, while "physics", as in "the study of physical laws", doesn't include anything because it's a process, not an entity. I'm obviously using the former (but not necessarily in relation to our own world).

>In fact, it would be entirely possible to use C to learn a lot of things about how a processor works, using nothing but C, because C still exists within the confines of our physics.
Completely irrelevant to what I'm saying. I never said you couldn't use C to understand how a processor works, but it's impossible to use C to change the language of C as a matter of raw logic. Any changes you can enact are already described within that language.

>shit example
Yeah it is, but I can't think of a better one when the normal go-to, fictional worlds in relationship to their authors or readers, fail to get through.
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>>155781663
It was but a ruse, to get the villain confused and unready for the punch(kick)
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>>155778725
Inevitable depression. Happy people get more depressed the closer they get to me.
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>>155784625
>>155784643
Even if matter is universally not able to be destroyed aside from the god deciding okay it's destroyable? This stuff is wrinkling my brain.
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>>155784643
>Doesn't work that way, if we refer to Harry Potter physics as a seperate entity when compared to our own physics we are automatically making the ontological assumption that the world is independent, whether or not it originated as a sub-world.
>we
No, we're not. Next time make a proper comparison that fulfills that criteria, please. Harry Potter, unless you can prove it to be, is not an independently existing world and neither is any sort of fanfiction or story world.
>just because it is a subsystem does not mean it isn't an independent, logically closed system
How can it be independent if it's a subsystem? How is it independent if it stops existing when the system does?
>The fact of the matter is that the complete, logically closed physics of a worldsystem does not include provisions to change that worldsystem from outside or within (or else it wouldn't be logically closed)
And Harry Potter is still not a complete, logically closed world. Neither is your fanfiction example. They are not independent. They are not closed systems. They can be read, they can be written, they can discussed. They exist within our world, are subject as ideas to the beings thinking them and as written texts to every other rule.

>>155784801
If God can destroy matter, then clearly it is destructible.
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>>155784737
>subject of physical study is a worldsystem (the one where the study resides in).
This is an arbitrary limitation that you're imposing and it has no basis in reality.

>it's impossible to use C to change the language of C as a matter of raw logic
I'm telling you that this is wrong. On any level I care to think about. What do you even mean by "change the language of C." Because to me that means changing the compiler, and it's entirely possible to write a C program that changes the C compiler to compile a different version of C, even the very compiler you use to compile the problem, he'll, even while the compiler is compiling the very same program doing the changing.
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MIDRIFFS
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>>155784801
That's the problem. If matter is unable to be destroyed, and said god actually exists in world, then that god can't destroy matter either until he pops out, changes the rules, and destroys matter in accordance with them. The only act actually outside of physical laws is changing physical laws.

>>155784833
>No, we're not.
You literally are. The fact that you're talking about it as something by itself means that you're considering it as something that can exist on its own, without referencing something else. It exists because someone using our physics wrote it, but the worldsystem itself doesn't need us. Complete worldsystems aren't a "thing" that exists, they simply are, in the same sense that you could destroy our universe and the physical laws that describe it can still exist even if they now describe nothing.

>not an independently existing world
This isn't something I need to prove, it's not pertinent. It doesn't independently exist; it's a set of definitions and assumptions that do not need our world to be defined.

>how is it independent if it stops existing when the system does
It doesn't? Worldsystems are axoimatic, defined, assumed-to-be. They don't exist in the normal sense to begin with.

>logical closed world
Do you know what a logically closed system is because it doesn't mean there can't be higher systems that include it. A logically closed system means that in its internal logic it can just sit there, by itself, without referencing something it doesn't already describe.

>>155784843
>This is an arbitrary limitation that you're imposing
I'm not imposing that one, I'm saying that's what it usually means. Most people don't think of studying fictional physical laws when they say physics. Obviously you can study arbitrary worldsystems.

>what do you mean change the language of C
I mean to change the abilities of the language itself, which is obviously something C can't do - because if you just did it, you just proved you failed to do so.
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>>155785062
*axiomatic
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>>155784633
You're a kind person, anon.
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What was with that silly as fuck sermon about magic at the start? Is this show too up its own ass or something? Because that speech was hilarious and the way they tried to present it with the style change didn't help at all.
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>>155785092
The style change didn't come off as well as they thought it did.
No, actual spoiler: Glenn was the kid who wanted to be a Hero of Justice at the start. He becomes a mage but is sent off on quests to assassinate people and feels empty and betrayed even though he's still more or less doing the job of a hero. When he tells Sisti that magic is good for fuckall but killing, he's basically projecting.
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>>155785062
>I'm not imposing that one
It's not about fictional physical laws, it's about physical laws governing our physical laws, and there's no limitation on physics saying that they can't study why the laws of physics (or as you call it, the worldsystem), are what they are. There are pretty serious scientists working right now to determine whether out universe is a simulation or a hologram or what.

>I mean to change the abilities of the language itself, which is obviously something C can't do
No it isn't. You're still not making sense. What do you mean "change the abilities of the language." Before you even start answering that question, ask yourself this: "What is a programming language?" Once you answer that question, you'll see that your example makes no logical sense.
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Which major character dies in this series?
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>>155785157
>There are pretty serious scientists working right now to determine whether out universe is a simulation or a hologram or what.
They really, really, really need to take the advice of Sam Johnson: "I refute it thus". Who the fuck cares if it's a sim? If it's a sim, and we exist inside that sim, then being simulations within a sim, the sim is real to us. It is logically impossible for us to know we're in a sim unless the sim itself wants us to be able to understand that we're in a sim, but at that point it's impossible to know if it's a falseflag by the sim.

>Before you even start answering that question, ask yourself this: "What is a programming language?" Once you answer that question, you'll see that your example makes no logical sense.
Look mate I'm stretching in the fucking dark here because you rejected my original example. Yes, I'm not a fucking dumbass - it doesn't work that well, possibly not at all, but it's the only example I can think of. Can you think of a better one for me?
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>>155785062
>The fact that you're talking about it as something by itself means that you're considering it as something that can exist on its own, without referencing something else
Please stop projecting your own ideas and assumptions onto other people. I am doing no such thing.
>but the worldsystem itself doesn't need us
If there is nobody there to read it and form ideas out of the squiggly ink on the paper, then how does the worldsystem exist? If the memes and ideas that form the world are gone, how does it exist? The world of Harry Potter is a meme in the human egregore. No further level of existence is seen.
>in the same sense that you could destroy our universe and the physical laws that describe it can still exist even if they now describe nothing.
Yes, certainly, if our universe is a part of an even greater system, reality, existence itself. The world of Harry Potter is not a system like this by itself though. It is merely the subsystem of a subsystem possibly in a set of subsystems and so forth.
>This isn't something I need to prove, it's not pertinent. It doesn't independently exist; it's a set of definitions and assumptions that do not need our world to be defined.
>It doesn't? Worldsystems are axoimatic, defined, assumed-to-be. They don't exist in the normal sense to begin with.
So "it is so because I say so"? I congratulate on reaching the human peak of argumentation. Well done!
>A logically closed system means that in its internal logic it can just sit there, by itself, without referencing something it doesn't already describe.
And Harry Potter is not a logically closed system. Neither is the fanfiction world, or any other world similiar to them.
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>>155785185
Glenn gets close multiple times
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>>155779997
>You know, I've always wanted to see a comedy Manga about rake.
You mean a hotblooded battle shounen sports parody series about gardening and leaf raking?
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>this thread
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>>155785235
>If it's a sim, and we exist inside that sim, then being simulations within a sim, the sim is real to us. It is logically impossible for us to know we're in a sim unless the sim itself wants us to be able to understand that we're in a sim, but at that point it's impossible to know if it's a falseflag by the sim.
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>>155785120
He's not wrong, though. Magic provides no benefit other than killing. Pic related came off so pretentious because of that.
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>>155776615
Danger of a boner you mean.
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>>155785316
>Magic provides no benefit other than killing

What the fuck am I reading? That's exactly why that entire exchange between them was completely laughable.
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What flavor is Sistine when you stick your dick in her?
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>>155785375
Pork
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>>155785403
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We went from rape and midriffs to complex theories of reality

Spooky
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>>155785235
>It is logically impossible for us to know we're in a sim unless the sim itself wants us to be able to understand that we're in a sim
Or the sim is imperfect, which is infinitely more likely than a perfect sim.

You're making a lot of assumptions out of nowhere, which is a big no-no in these cases.

Anyway, that is entirely beside the point. The fact is, if we're in a sim, and we find out that we're in a sim, then out knowledge of physics would be expanded to include the physics of the world that is running our sim and the execution environment and the rules of the sim and the source code of the sim and whatever else. Which is what I am saying: The laws of physics governing our laws of physics are also our laws of physics.

>Can you think of a better one for me?
Not really, because I'm not really sure what you were trying to illustrate with that example.

Maybe virtual machines? Before you try, you show know that it is entirely possible to perform a virtual machine escape by running a program inside that virtual machine, which would allow you to execute code on the physical machine.
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>>155785370
>What the fuck am I reading?
You're reading the setting of the anime/novel. Magic is a predominantly military affair in their world.
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Name ONE (1) benefit magic provides besides being useful for killing people. Pro-tip: you can't.
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>>155785417

You know a series is going to be fun when you get a thread like this.
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>>155785417
>midriff gods are derailing the thread to keep the power of midriffs a secret
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>>155785464
That stun gun spell could probably be used to power a toaster to make me poptarts.
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>>155785370
>What the fuck am I reading?
The truth.
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>>155785464
You ever see that one hentai where MC has a mirror that he uses to fuck girls in his class with

Yokujou Bazooka I think

That's a benefit
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>>155785370
It hardly does though, that's the point. The Empire uses magic mostly as military power, mages don't give a fuck about anything but magic and Glenn himself is just a bitter sadcunt, because his dreams of being a seigi no majutsu got crushed by reality. He's just throwing out his own feelings to the class and everyone in the class is too stupid, ignorant or chicken-shit to refute him, or even point out what he's doing is just anecdotal bullshit, which just goes to reinforce his own views of magic as an institution being shit. He does wisen up a bit though, with Lumia as you could see. He realises that HE can make a change in the magic world, that it doesn't necessarily have to be shit.

>>155785417
>complex
Lol.
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>>155785279
>Please stop projecting
I'm projecting logical necessities. You can't talk about something without admitting it exists as something to be talked about, something ontologically independent.

>if there is nobody there to read it
It doesn't matter if anyone knows it or if anyone realizes its existence? By this logic, universal gravity didn't exist until someone decided to write it down. Worldsystems exist whether or not observers are there to observe it and whether or not anyone understands what they're looking at; it's just generally not meaningful to talk about a worldsystem nobody's observed because nobody, including yourself, knows what you're talking about, by definition.

>yes, certainly, etc.
No? I'm really not sure anymore how I'm supposed to explain any further than this. Worldsystems literally can't rely on other worldsystems by definition, or else they're, as you say, a subsystem; but your claim that fictional worlds aren't worldsystems doesn't hold water because I can describe those fictional worlds and their operation in their entirety without ever referencing the fact that someone wrote them, because the author is not relevant to the world itself.

>so it is so because I say so?
Yes. 1+1 = 2 because we all say so, that's unironically how it is. Worldsystems are axoimatic. Harry Potter didn't die to Voldy because Rowling fucking said so.

>>155785426
>or the sim is imperfect
Which is impossible. Contradictions within a sim must look to be non-contradictory from within the sim simply because you yourself are a product of those contradictions; we'd literally just see them as other laws.

>virtual machines
No, not really either. VMs don't work because of the example you just gave, you can 'get out', whereas a closed, complete system shouldn't be able to let you "get out". I guess something like, using linux to extend linux beyond the capabilities of linux, is the best I can do. Doing something that can't be done by definition and not by precedent.
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>>155785487
Yeah, probably, when they invent the toaster.

Until they actually invent a toaster that can be powered by magic, magic provides no benefit to breakfast.

That's the whole point, the show isn't saying that magic can't have benefits for society, but that it currently doesn't. This is something that the blonde princess wants to change, which was what moved that guy to start teaching.
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Is Glen the strongest?
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>>155785544
He's pretty OP.
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I'm not sure which is worse, the guy trying to force the pig meme or the discussion ongoing in this thread.
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>>155785544
He's strong but Celica can pull a meteor out of space
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>>155785539
for real though, the show started by showing her healing someone with magic
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>>155785578
Madara.png

>>155785575
Fuck off, philosophy is the best part of /a/
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>>155785528
>Which is impossible
This is an assumption with no basis. I suggest you read Permutation City for an interesting novel somewhat related to this discussion. And once again, this doesn't matter at all.

Here is my point, spelled as clear as possible:

The laws of physics that govern our laws of physics are also our laws of physics.

>I guess something like, using linux to extend linux beyond the capabilities of linux
That's what linux development is, dude. This is an even worse example.
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>>155785601
Whoops, meant to answer to:
>>155785530
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>>155785586
Well, healing a minor bruise isn't that big of a deal and certainly not "a benefit to society," additionally healing helps in war and was probably developed for military purposes and finally, yeah the show fucked up by not explaining magic and it's place in society more before doing the whole "magic only for killing boohoo" bit.

Not saying this show is well written, just saying that that's what they meant with that scene.
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>>155785586
too bad most mages wouldn't waste their magic on heals that have nothing to do with combat.
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>>155785599

I'm fine with philosophy but there's a time and place for it. A thread dedicated to bullying Sisti is hardly the place.
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>>155785601
>permutation city
Bookmarked, I'll look at it.

>The laws of physics that govern our laws of physics are also our laws of physics.
But that's the thing we disagree on and I'm trying to explain to you why. Here's my version in one line:
The laws of physics that govern our world are, and only are, what is needed to explain our world - not worlds above, neither worlds below.

>That's what linux development is, dude. This is an even worse example.
No? Linux development is developing Linux within the capabilities of Linux to develop linux. I don't mean extending capabilities to where they couldn't reach before, I mean extending capabilities to somewhere they can't reach by definition. In this sense I'm saying that linux's capability to extend linux includes the extension of capability to extend linux, but what would be 'outside' would be extending the capabilities of linux beyond any layer of extending the capabilities of extending ... [etc] of linux. Sorry if this sounds pseudodeep.
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>>155785661
Most of our technology is developed through military funding.
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>>155785663
Literally idiots. If you could heal diseases you could get rich real quick.
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>>155785703
I hate this urban legend. Most of our technology, today, is developed through military funding, because techonology today (and partially before) has always been expensive shite to develop, and warfare is one of the few things the state will always agree to spend cash on.
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>>155785297
Like Bento!, but with leaves instead of food?
I'd watch it.
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>>155785732
Cure Light Wounds and Cure Disease aren't the same thing.
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>>155785599
Philosophy involving realism is boring as fuck. I don't care what happens to 3dpd or the shitty real world nor does it bear any relevance.
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>>155785661
>>155785663
my thinking was if a student can do that then it's likely there's more powerful mages in hospitals and stuff, it's as you say they don't explain but maybe the ln has gone into it or something
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>>155785732
Most of the nobles are mages, dumbass.
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>>155785732
I thought Mages leaned towards getting more powerful which meant more magic power to create their own riches
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>>155785757
This isn't involving realism or reality, it's involving ontology and metaphysics.
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>>155785586
Magic does not go further than what the medicine field has already achieved. Reducing the healing time of a boo boo, that is what you consider a benefit?
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>>155785530
>You can't talk about something without admitting it exists as something to be talked about, something ontologically independent.
Something to be talked about is not ontologically independent. The functions of the human brain are very much dependent on the rest of reality.
>By this logic, universal gravity didn't exist until someone decided to write it down
Universal gravity is not an independent worldsystem, as you put it and due to the different nature of the two, I would say a more accurate comparison would be that gravity did not exist before a reality, or higher system, existed where it could act.
>decided to write it down
If Harry Potter existed before being written down, then it did. You have no evidence for this though and so I make the assumption it did not.
>Worldsystems exist whether or not observers are there to observe it and whether or not anyone understands what they're looking at;
"They exist because I say so"
They don't exist, because I say so.
>I can describe those fictional worlds and their operation in their entirety without ever referencing the fact that someone wrote them, because the author is not relevant to the world itself.
But there is so much more reliance than simply the author. You can't describe these fictional worldsystems without relying on our physics, concepts and understanding of our own existence, our memes. To explain something built within our own existence, you absolutely need to rely on our own subsystem, or else you would not be able to describe it. Even if you know that the worldsystem exists, you are already relying on our own system.
>Yes. 1+1 = 2 because we all say so, that's unironically how it is. Worldsystems are axoimatic.
And the world of Harry Potter is not such a worldsystem. It does not exist independently.
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>>155785773
if a student can do that then a full blown mage should be able to heal broken arms from buggy accidents and shit
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>>155785370
It probably could but mages are insular, elitist and obsessed with knowledge for the sake of itself. I mean, "lowly as benefiting humanity" really? She'd pass the magic Illuminati registration exam with flying colors.
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>>155785761
The only magical hospitals would be military.
They have regular doctors and white mages are too busy trying to bring things to life.
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>>155785802
Still doesn't go further than what the medicine field has already achieved.
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>>155785687
>The laws of physics that govern our world are, and only are, what is needed to explain our world - not worlds above, neither worlds below.
This is not a direct disagreement but a side tangent. The "laws of physics" you're talking about here must, by definition, include any law that modifies our world itself, since that's what is needed to explain our world in its totality.

Look, let me try another way: Back in the day, we didn't know what laws governed the motion of celestial bodies, but those laws still existed. Today, we know the laws responsible for the motion of celestial bodies, but we don't know why those laws are what they are. When we do find a law that explains why G is ~6.67e-10, that law will become part of our knowledge of physics, but just because we don't know it now, or maybe even if we never find out, doesn't mean that that particular law is not part of the laws that govern our existence. Thus I return to my point that any law of physics that governs our laws of physics is also our law of physics.

>Sorry if this sounds pseudodeep.
No, it doesn't. It just sounds senseless. Stick to physics.
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>>155785672
You realise threads don't have to stick to the original topic right? They're like regular conversations, they meander.
I remember when the bump limit was like 250, and it was still rare the thread would be on the original topic by the end.
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>>155785821
is that from the ln? haven't read that so if so then disregard me

>>155785822
instahealed arm vs month in a cast would be quite farther
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>>155781868

It's more like he is tsundere for her.
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Lumia a shit
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>>155785672
But anon, philosophy bullies Sisti because she's dumb and can't understand any of it.
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>>155785944
This. He only picks on her and not anyone else.
Mostly because she resembles someone else though.
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>>155785952
>lumia a best girl
Fixed it for ya lad
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>>155785687
>The laws of physics that govern our world are, and only are, what is needed to explain our world - not worlds above, neither worlds below.
But what if, for example, physical laws of some greater "world" are required to fully explain our world? As an example, if existence itself was seen as the greatest system, within all that exists falls under, then would the laws of existence not be required to explain the laws of our own dimension, or universe?
Or do you think of the laws of the "existence" level as something that exist independently, both in OUR world and the "existence" level, instead of being a shared attribute?
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Does the manga have any pantyshots?
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The problem with the "magic only for killing tirade" he did is that the show never really established the setting enough to imply that apparently humanity's grasp on magic never went beyond the concept of throwing shit at each other. It was only natural to question the show's logic when he mentioned other fields supposedly more important than magic, you'd obviously have to ask that if there's a highly renowned institute to train magicians then surely magic has seeped its way into a multitude of practical areas in society.
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>>155785985
Yes
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>>155785976
This metaphysical stuff leaves me pretty confused. Can you use simpler words?
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>>155785999
He literally said he was joking a second later can you autists shut the fuck up about it?
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>>155786022
He wasn't joking. That's what he thinks, because he's bitter, immature and foolish. He just decided to go deeper into what he truly thinks of the magic institutions, to reveal his poverlewel, so he curtly put aside the censored views he presented earlier.
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>>155785976
>>155785838
>>155785782
I just typed out 6000 characters in the 4chan box about to answer you guys and I hit C-w instead of Shift-w by accident, and if I go to sleep now I have 200 minutes until the sun rises so fuck that I'm out.
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>>155786056
Thanks for the chat. Good night, sleep tight, wake up bright in the morning light.
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>>155785767
In which case my problem is not with you.
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>>155786047
And? He still admits that magic is useful in other areas other than warfare. So end it there.
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>>155784379

Because this one is actually fun?

It's the first harem in years that I'm enjoying.
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>>155786002
Pics?
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>>155786056
Sleep well pupper
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>>155786122
>in other areas other than warfare
Yeah, at killing. He's obviously just provoking the students to see if anyone'll answer him.
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>>155784379
Everybody loves harems. They're just too tsundere to admit it.
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>>155786047
>bitter immature and foolish
He's a literal freshman so it makes sense
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>>155785416

I really wonder how she would change if the bad guy actually creampied her.
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>>155786181
Bad guy here, I'll creampie her so you can find out.
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>>155785544

No. Not even close.
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>>155786146
China will grow larger
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>>155786201
Who's the strongest?
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>>155786174
>just too tsundere to admit it

No, those are just shitposters
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>>155786222

Tits witch.
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>>155786245
Who's the second strongest?
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>>155786181
I'm sure someone will make a doujin akin to the Rance scene where he fucks the Teal haired girl while she's blindfolded and he's pretending to be the kidnapper

Except it'll be Glenn fucking a blindfolded Sisti
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>>155786178
It does, yeah. Especially with him formerly being an idealistic fool and having his views crushed.
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>>155785996
>>155785996
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>>155786245
Anon
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>>155786309
I want to be an idealistic fool in a world with cute 2d girls too
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>>155786181
They probably have tele-abortion spells.
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>>155786364
>teleports the baby to a different body
>suddenly wake up with baby bulge
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>>155786418
>>>/d/7350998
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>>155784633
Go home Shining Chariot.
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>>155784633
So a big dick?
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>>155786251

Fire mage in fishnets.
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MAn, this show must be good to have a thread this long
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>>155786350
>making a new thread that early during dead hours when this one still had so many image replies to go
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>>155777229
>I cast fist
>Throw a kick

Close enough, this is pure muscle wizardry
I'm sold
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>>155779997
Source?
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>>155772207
>Rape is the new form of bullying
My dick thanks you, Japan.
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