will Rem protect Subaru's smile
>>155762810
Rem is in a permanent vegetable state if season 2 would ever exist, which probably won't happen.
So no
Every thread until Crusch-sama gets her memories back.
>>155762810
Dude was a total creep in the WN. She's the one who made his smile worth protecting.
>>155762882
>>155762921
Not even once
>>155762997
And he just got his face stomped for trying to peek at Rem and Ram's underwear while he was on the floor after getting thrown out of Betty's room.
>>155763872
What the fuck
>>155763872
Sasuga
>>155763872
Now that I think about it, this story barely has any skinservice except Elsa
>>155763872
Reminder that this fucking guy is supposed to be Rem's hero.
>>155764041
Pink and blue.
>>155764118
He's not there yet. Apparently he was a lot more of a fixer upper in the WN.
>>155764282
>Pink
Wait, isn't Rem's supposed to be white?
>>155764357
This is the WN, and she probably has more than one pair, and I'm not sure if Subaru was guessing. He still comes off as a creep compared to how he is in arc 4, where he's mostly just a creep to Emilia.
>>155764357
White is just kind of the default most things go to, you don't even get to see any real fanservice for the twins in the anime.
>>155762810
What's the name of this girl and how is she related to Subaru?
>>155766036
She's his wife, Natsuki Rem
>>155762872
If it exists I sincerely hope they do Subaru right
>>155762810
In her dreams.
Literally.
>>155766595
>changes her hairstyle to look more like Emilia
Pathetic.
>>155767090
>Emilia copies Rem's hair and tries to imitate her
>Rem copies Emilia's hair only
>>155767373
Emilia went crazy in that route so you can't really compare them in that sense.
>>155767532
Why was she crazy in first place? Because she didn't get the attention she wanted so she tried to steal from the potato?
>>155767627
Because she never has to grow up and Subaru basically wipes her ass for her so she becomes utterly dependent. But he's still butthurt over the sleeping girl so she tries to get his attention by styling herself similarly to little effect.
>>155766036
Wonder if it turns out that she and MC are blood related.
>>155768746
How in the fuck would that even work? She's not even human
>>155768746
what the fuck are you on
Remember, around normalfags, don't relax.
>>155768996
>>155769156
Are we sure she is not mixed like Emilia? She only has one horn after all so it should have something to do with her bloodline.
>>155767373
Rem didn't copy emilia hair, emilia name was never mentioned in the IF. rem letting hair grown is part of the Main story
>>155769518
Both her parents are Oni, and neither of her parents are Subaru's parents.
Moreover, Ram and her can leave sanctuary, which they couldn't do if they were half anything.
>>155769518
Okay,
1. Watch the anime.
2. Read the WN/LN/Manga
3. Find some more braincells you retard
>>155769518
good job rustling the potatoes
Which one /a/?
Just noticed a grammar mistake.
>>155771458
Kek, there should be a sequel where they all procrastinate before canon Subaruif everything goes well
Added some of the sound effects.
Noticing something. WN Subaru doesn't seem to clearly distinguish between Rem and Ram in the first loop. Usually just thinks of them as the "twins" or "pink hair/blue hair". He seems to have assumed both of them have a thing for Roswaal, even though only Ram has actually shown that kind of thing. He compares her attitude to that of a faithful dog.
How well is Re:zero Death or Kiss selling?
>>155764094
it's a shame that Elsa disappears after the first few episodes and never returns. I have a sinking feeling that if and when she comes back, she'll be killed off for good.
>>155772434
Yep. WN Subaru definitely assumes Roswaal is fucking both the maids.
>>155773379
>when she comes back, she'll be killed off for good.
Yup. The WN translation is only 3 or 4 chapters away from her death.She dies in a fire.
>>155762810
thats ram
>>155773535
Does WN Subaru know Rem still is a virgin yet?
>>155773535
I'm curious about a detailed account of that, because I'm highly suspect of her just kind of dying in a fire.
>>155773863
>it was all an elaborate ruse to further the quest for more bowels
>>155773664
She probably is. However, in the first two loops, WN Arc 2 Subaru feels confident that Roswaal is fucking them both. He seems to be jealous of him, and it gives him a subtle NTR feeling.
WN Subaru is a jackass at this point.
I haven't read wn Arc 2 in a long time but I remember it being much slower at the start and Subaru being more of a meme shithead in ways that weren't really good. According to jp wiki most people hated it which was probably why most of the dialogue at the beginning parts was changed completely.
>>155773863
It's reasonably explicit, if she did survive I would personally consider it pretty dumb or an asspull.
>>155773863
Elsa is badly injured.
Is chasing Subaru.
Subaru is trying to evacuate Betty.
Shit is all on fire.There is ONE (1) "safe" exit.
Betty is herding Subaru to it.
Subaru tells Betty, "that's not safe, I'll die in a flashover."
Subaru opens door.
Goes to the library instead.
Closes door.
Elsa still chasing.
Elsa opens door.
Dies in a flashover.
>>155773904
Well, I was suspicious before, but I'd have to see how the scene plays out exactly. It could either be written somewhat vaguely or fairly definitively. Fire should be a way to kill her for good, but the Ayamatsu thing made me more suspicious because she randomly survives there when Subaru thought she was dead and literally everything was on fire. At least until Reinhard gets her for good.
>>155773863
tappe already stated in the Q&A that she's dead, villains don't get a 2nd chance here see betel or rege
>>155774257
Tappei is a cheeky fuck. He's also said Pete was dead and while being technically true the dude is now haunting Subaru, so that shit is going to come up eventually.
>>155762810
Yes, by standing aside as he marries Emilia.
Every thread until Rem wakes up.
>>155774146
>>155774141
Sounds sort of explicit, I'll see what I think of it when we get there.
>>155774141
>being more of a meme shithead in ways that weren't really good
Oh, definitely. It's kind of odd seeing how much of a repulsive loser this Subaru is compared to later, or to how he is in the LN. The fucker is memespeaking to Roswaal about how he thought he'd become a wizard in 13 years, and his hopes of losing his virginity to Emilia. Hell, he thought the day of his date with her would be the day he became a man.
I'm surprised anyone can stand this douchebag. I guess they're grateful that he helped Emilia, but fucking hell. He's hardly shown any good points, inside or out.
So what the hell was it?
Wait so are the first arcs getting rewriten?
Watched the anime and started reading arc 4 and currently waiting for summaryanon
>>155778079
if anything is getting rewritten its the LN
in terms of publishing
WN -> LN -> Anime
the manga is slow as fuck so its still not even done with the anime yet
I love Emilia
>>155778079
The LN differs from the WN in various ways. I just started reading the earlier chapters of the WN, and Subaru comes across as more of a scummy memelord than in the LN. He implies Ram is a whore, thinks both twins are fucking Roswaal, and is hoping Emilia's going to be easy to fuck.
>>155778364
>and is hoping Emilia's going to be easy to fuck.
I mean, this is probably true. You just have to trick her while Puck is off the clock.
>>155763872
Sounds like typical pre arc 3 Subaru behaviour.
>>155778364
Fucking kek
Also are arc 5&6 translated, I want to start reading those once summaryanon (bless him) is done with arc 4
>>155778815
It's not. Remon translated some of the chapters on arc 6 up to chapter 10 i believe, or 9.
Summary anon will begin translating arc 5 after he's done with 4.
>>155770187
Tough descicion.
>>155770187
I wonder what it would be like for all the AU Subarus to meet in one place. Someone should call Tappei to make it happen.
>>155778364
I really hate this Subaru, thank god for Rem.
>>155778364
>Hoping Emilia is going to be an easy fuck
Love at first sight they said.
>>155778684
Oh yes. WN Subaru currently sees Rem as an "Improved version of Ram", who is a few levels above her in every way. Including shit talking. Apparently, her indirect style makes it sharper.
>>155779112
I dunno what to think of this.
>>155778364
Holy shit Subaru sounds like an absolute asshole. Am I supposed to hate him now or?
This is all very confusing.
>>155778364
I'm not sold on Subaru and Rem romance yet because I feel like Rem hasn't seen enough of Subaru to fairly judge him. If she saw how much of an asshole he really was, then I believe she would love him way less.
>>155779168
Basically, pre-Arc 3 Subaru was a total shit in the WN. When he talks about Rem making him into a better man, I think he really fucking means it.
>>155778364
I can see why anons say Subaru is like Roswaal but not a dick.
>>155779230
Are we still in the early chapters of arc 2? Maybe his perspective slowly changes or something.
>>155779303
I am still waiting on the "not a dick" part though.
>>155779356
Yeah. I just started reading today. I'm sure he improves, but he's starting at a low point. At least he's improved from thinking of Rem and Ram as "blue hair and pink hair". Now they're "Crappier version of Rem and Better version of Ram".
>>155778364
>Thinking Emilia is an easy fuck
I really want to see arc 1 and Subaru's thought process now. I am having revelations and the ground is crumbling from under me.
>>155779106
What's wrong with that? Subaru loves Emilia so he wants to fuck her. If anything, it proves their love is not platonic.
>>155779216
I mean arc 3+ Subaru is a thing
>>155778364
nice lies, nothing from the WN>LN thing like this was mentioned
>>155779667
He is the anon who is helping Remon translate the Rem & Ram backstory chapters, I beleive he has the credibility.
>>155779576
Its one thing to love someone its another to think that she is just an easy fuck. If it wasnt platonic back then, then it sure as hell is platonic now.
>>155779654
Thats true
>>155779716
I don't really help translate. I sort of skimmed bits while transcribing. It'd be wrong to say I'm helping him translate.
>>155779667
These probably aren't what people consider to be the important details. It's just that Subaru is more of an asshole.
>>155779761
Well, that's not all he saw her as. His attitude towards her probably improves after the lap pillow. Later on, he's clearly no longer in a such a hurry to lose his virginity.
Subaru isn't really the only one. Even as a joke, this seems really out of character for them. Actually, the more I think about it, the more I feel the way Rem and Ram are introduced is really weird given their actual personalities.
>>155779836
Can you tell me more details regarding this?
>>155779977
How are Rem and Ram like in the WN?
>>155779654
Arc 3 Subaru is not even that bad. Reading the manga gives me the impression that White Fox exaggerated his douchiness and purposely made him unlikeable for whatever reason (to make him more "realistic" and his road of redemption post-From Zero more impressive I guess).
>>155780076
Well the early chapters of arc 3 translated by Kaguro also indicate the same thing, but we'll have to wait for transcriber-kun to read it. As the bigginning of arc 2 Subaru sounds kind of like and asshole.
>>155779977
Their introduction is straight from the WN, where it doesn't stand out so much.
>>155779998
Generally speaking, Subaru doesn't seem to be as close to the twins yet. He also wants to avoid the subject of Roswaal around them, because he doesn't want to hear about them fucking the Clown. Which he assumes both of them do. Rem seems confused by why he suddenly ended their conversation at the village.
He's decided he'll look into it more next loop, if he dies before his fate with Emilia.
>>155780047
Its not that they're different in the WN vs their intro in the anime or manga or whatever, but that their intro is weird for what we come to learn of them.
What's the most canon source for this series?
WN? LN? Manga?
>>155780290
LN technically I guess, but the WN is what we've got, so the WN is what we mostly work with.
>>155779667
http://rezero.wiki.fc2.com/wiki/書籍版変更点
from volume 2:
>WEB時代から特に不評が多い2章序盤の会話劇の大幅修正
(In particular, substantial revisions for dialogue near the beginning of arc2 which had a particularly bad reputation during the WN era)
>>155779168
you don't have to think anything of it. it was dumb writing that apparently nobody even liked and was rightfully removed in the edited version. Subaru was a dumbass pre-from zero but this was probably too much.
>>155780076
you're not entirely wrong that it was somewhat exaggerated in the anime but remember the manga isn't a 100% faithful adaptation either.
>>155780234
I feel like everything in regards to the twins, especially Rem, is supposed to be misleading at first. Because Rem is supposed to be the "rising heroine" so her actual role and personality would be unveiled at a later point of the story. And in their introduction, Rem and her sister instead came across as generic and cringey maids so no one would have the impression that they are something special.
>>155780357
So those early chapters of Subaru got revised huh?
So /a/ with the info we have now what is the true canon here?
>>155780460
In the WN, this goes a step further, because the early chapters are written in such a way to suggest both Rem and Ram fuck the clown together. Subaru feels certain about it, even though he doesn't really have evidence. The narrator even obfuscates the issue, by saying the reason why Rem wasn't in the room giving her report to Roswaal was because Ram was Subaru's instructor.
Ram says that either she or Rem wait outside the bath to help dress the clown, and Rem mentions a scar around Roswaal's chest, one that he's apparently proud of, after Subaru brings up how he doesn't want to heal the dog bite. That's when Subaru ends the conversation immediately.
The best part is that Subaru's jealous, and doesn't think it's right for him to have two attractive girls all to himself. And this is the Subaru that WN Arc 4 Subaru grew out of.
>>155780782
No matter what anyone says the WN is canon in my heart
>>155780782
At the end of the day? Still the WN. You're gonna need something real drastic and fucked up for me to shift to the LN.
>>155780782
Do it the obvious way. The WN is canon to the WN. LN is canon to the LN. There is likely to be crossover of ideas, as I think the description for Ram's clothing has changed in the WN.
>>155780790
Sounds like Subaru is really trying to pull the "Archbishop of Envy" card real early.
>>155780902
Oh yes. He was originally worried that Roswaal might also be fucking Emilia. He literally gets corruption/NTR vibes off the man, especially when he interacts with the maids.
>>155780955
>corruption/NTR vibes
Well, he's not wrong.
>>155780790
Now I have to question if "You're mine. I won't let anyone have you" from Subaru to Rem did come from his genuine love for her or instead his jealousy and possessiveness. Wew.
>>155780790
Yeah, I can see why anons call him more villainous in the WN. Because Subaru actually sounds shady as fuck.
>>155780989
Isn't it obvious that it's both? I mean, this is a fucker who used to accuse almost every guy he met of trying to NTR him.
>>155781013
I get the impression that Subaru is actually Envy rather than Pride. His jealousy is much more constant than his ego.
>>155781041
Someone might need to slap his shit for that then.
>>155781075
I can see Roswaal attempt to NTR Rem to trigger Subaru's jealousy and fuck him up entirely.
>>155781147
Lets not go into that territorry yet.
>>155781084
Honestly, he deserves it at this point. If Emilia had a bit more brains, she should have done it a thousand times. He's not subtle in hinting to her that he thinks they're fucking Roswaal.
>>155779222
I just wonder why the early day WNfags ship those two so damn hard. Something must have happened to convince them that Subaru and Rem deserve each other for better or worse. But it clearly wasn't just Zero kara either.
>>155781226
Well they said they went through hell for each other so that's a thing to keep an eye out for.
>>155781225
Oh christ this is bad for my heart anon.
>watch Zero
>it's an MC bawls his eyes out like a complete bitch episode
>again
>it's also an episode where the characters all behave like they know him when they have just met due to time reset
>>155779629
It just sounds like he hasn't a really high opinion of her with those expectations
>>155781225
And people tell me Subaru wasn't a fundementally bad person.
>>155779504
>Now they're "Crappier version of Rem and Better version of Ram".
wew
>>155781352
Which episode? Also the anime is pretty shit senpai.
>>155779504
That isnt a low point anon, that is beyond a low point. Its actually bordering into irredeemable territory.
>>155781396
They could only do so much when the source material is also shit.
>>155781226
Well, Subaru isn't so bad by the time of the mayonnaise chapters. Subaru probably gets his shit together.
>>155781331
He said he might look into it more next loop. I want to see how much sensitivity he exercises in pursuing this matter, and if it contributes to Rem murdering him.
>>155781374
He's a shithead. Not evil or anything yet, but still an obnoxious and insensitive faggot.
>>155781420
Well, the story is all about starting from Zero.
>>155781450
>>155781450
Oh, its you again shitposter-kun.
>>155780790
>and doesn't think it's right for him to have two attractive girls all to himself
So, about that poly plan
>>155781546
Subaru literally is turning into a mini Roswaal holy shit
>>155781546
That one dangerous line you're crossing there anon. A real dangerous one.
>>155781546
He's a hypocrite. It's not right when someone with a bigger holy sword than him has two girls, but it's just fine if he does.
>>155781374
>>155781226
In the mabeast incident he was legitimately altruistic in his concern for Rem, I wonder what was the actual spin in the WN at this point
>>155781606
Ultimately it was Rem's fault so. She basically had him on lock up till that point.
>>155781616
Probably genuine altruism. I mean, he stopped trying to peek at Emilia's panties at some point.
>>155781606
To me what I am seeing is that a poly ending will officially not be possible for this series and Subaru will ultimately have to choose Emilia or Rem.
Also no waifuwars please. Which means do not reply to obvious bait by shitposter-kun.
>>155781606
He never really asked for it though, just following what Rem asked him to do. Kind of like with Rem and the mayo chapter except worse.
>>155781730
Honestly, I don't think we should take the thoughts of early WN Memelord Subaru too seriously. It's more of a gauge for how far he's come.
>>155781767
Phrasing for familiar parts is also a little different. He cries over it when he realizes Rem stole his date virginity.
>>155781767
I must take the memlord seriously everything must link back somehow. Plus its fun seeing my perspectives crumble, it just gives me more fuel and coherent arguements for theorizing and such. I'll definitely use it as a gauge but regardless of that what I need is consistency.
>>155781837
ANON YOU ARE BREAKING ME
>>155781637
>>155781754
Subaru should know better than jump at the offer and assume everything is A-ok, as he already is aware that repeating "I love Emilia" was killing her inside, so he's not off the hook
Rem's unwilligness to antagonize others for her advantage would make her accept the polygamy even if she knew she was the favorite one, and Subaru ath that point is aware of this root issue of hers thus he bears responsibility in trying to follow this plan
>>155781837
>He cries over it when he realizes Rem stole his date virginity.
The idiot had it coming
>>155781837
What I need is c-consistency
>>155781892
That's something the two of them will need to solve in order for the story to move forward, seriously.
>>155781837
Its that time of the day again isn't it?
>>155781837
This is the part where you say it was a joke
>>155781837
Happy cries or sad cries? This is important.
>>155781837
STOP
T
O
P
>>155782013
Subaru is a dumbass at this point. This is apparently his sense of humor. Instead of saying the date with Rem didn't count, he says his fate virginity has been stolen and he's been defiled.
>>155781837
>>155782069
I actually think my heart is physically hurting
>>155782069
I hope to god chestpain anon isn't reading this right now. This might actually put him in terminal condition.
>>155782069
>at this point
>>155782069
>This is apparently his sense of humor
Are you telling me his entire jackass personality is just one big joke? Or that he is hiding under a mask?
>>155782092
I'm not sure why you're overreacting. It's just him goofing around and being overdramatic. We've read Arc 4. He gets better.
Reminder that Rem will never have her Subaru's first kiss
>>155782133
Oh no. He just has the sense of humor of a jackass. I get why he didn't have friends in High School.
>>155782069
Holy shit the anons were right. Subaru is actually hiding a really horrible personality under that mask of his.
>>155782142
Not him but it still doesn't make it easier to take in.
>>155782142
You don't understand, this is breaking my entire image on a whole lot of things. Thanks to that I actually might need to see what happens in arc 2 and 3 that made him become the Subaru we know now.
>>155782069
>his fate virginity has been stolen and he's been defiled
>>155782069
Oh goodness this is some heavy stuff. Give me more.
>>155782170
He's not exactly hiding it in these chapters. It's on full display. Anyhow, I'm done for the night. It's been interesting seeing the differences in characterization.
>>155782286
Well, it's clear WN Subaru is a bit different. There's some overlap in personality with his LN self, but his bad qualities are severely magnified. Which I suppose makes his transformation all the more dramatic.
>>155782396
Well, he also started sobbing like a little girl on his bed, about how he couldn't be a bride anymore, when he realized Emilia saw him naked when he was getting healed.
>>155782465
You cant leave me like this anon. At least assure me you will tell us more tommorrow.
>>155782465
Subaru is really going full out with all of this isn't he?
>>155782515
its meem your savior
natsuki subaru
>>155782465
Well that was fun
>>155781837
>>155782156
>Has his date virginity taken by Rem
>Has his kiss virginity taken by Emilia
What a slut
>>155782495
Sure. Tomorrow. Any interesting detail about how he stops being a shit will be given. That really seems to be the main difference so far.
>>155782515
Emilia seems to think he's a lot like Roswaal. I get the feeling that's why he's even able to get along with everyone at all. None of them are exactly appropriate in their behavior, and Emilia doesn't properly recognize what a creep acts like.
>>155782700
Crusch faction: noble autistic trannies (with aids)
Anastasia faction: sly jew's furry brigade
Priscilla faction: let them eat toenail clippings
Felt faction: I thought I was kidnapped by a knight in the slums but then I was the tsundere princess all along!?
Emilia faction: coven of crackpots
Subaru is the gift that keeps on giving
>>155783107
He gives almost as much Roswaal as does
>>155762810
reminder that Re:Zero is last harem anime crosses 5k disc
>>155783107
truly we could never repay the debt we owe him
>>155783107
I don't want these gifts these gifts hurt me
>>155783202
Remember, no feelings.
new chap when?
>>155779216
Why do even care about WN Arc 1-2 Subaru when no longer even canon? He was basically rewritten to be much less of asshat so who cares?
>>155783359
Continuity. Even if I hate what I find there has to be continuity.
>>155780290
The LN, which is basically polished version of the story. All the sources including the anime drawn from that.
>>155783144
>harem
>>155783359
Because it's interesting, Anon. Arc 4 WN Subaru was also rewritten, you gonna stop reading the WN?
>>155783355
Didn't we have one yesterday? There won't be much to discuss until we get the rest of Emilia's trials anyways. Now those are gonna be a blast for theorycrafting.
>>155778364
So in other words, they actually fixed MC?
I'm starting to learn runes today. The hell with the wait.
>>155783415
The little to do with continually. LN Subaru is just WN Subaru acting more like a human being less like caricature. You didn't need the WN first few arcs to understand him. He doesn't really exist anymore as far as Tappei is concerned.
>>155783442
I just want to read the part where Elsa dies.
>>155783442
>Because it's interesting, Anon. Arc 4 WN Subaru was also rewritten, you gonna stop reading the WN?
No because Arc 4 LN Subaru is just WN Subaru with much less of spreging which is more consistent with character development in From Zero. There is little point bothering with early WN Subaru who is just plan stupid.
>>155783516
I guess? Tappei probably realize that early WN Subaru was way too annoying and toned down that stupid. Most Japanese fans consider his LN verson and onward much better.
>>155783630
Yet I'd be nice if they kept that toned down part to just part only instead of the entire thing. I honestly believe after arc 3 they should have kept it more or less the same with parts being cut. There were some pretty iconic scenes being removed here and there.
>>155783708
I'm still upset at no "First Urge to Murder".
>>155783708
Most of so-called ironic scenes that removed/toned down where just overdone violence and some stupid shit like him pissing himself. Nobody really remembers or cares about parts like beyond some edgemasters here.
>>155783830
But I liked chapter 31
>>155783144
>harem
>>155783830
There's so much iconic shit taken out of Arc 4 so far. World Crumbling, First Urge to Murder. We're lucky the Carmilla scene and Echidna's monologue on RbD stayed in.
>>155783942
Care to give me a reminder of those scenes that got removed? I've been reading the Arc 4 translation but I've forgotten.
>>155783997
Everything should be here, as far as Arc 4 is concerned.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1iCIAkimv9IqGFxTJ-GN9ShoZa3YdOkqiu4nyX1WVcHQ/edit#
>>155783942
Here is to hoping we see more of Subarus chunni shit like maning the Leweses. I want my Pico in the LN.
>>155784043
pico is in the ln
Reminder that Ram will chew Subaru outyou know he deserves it
>>155784063
Does Subaru also name the Leweses and do kekkaiku shit?
>>155783942
Not really. Most of those scenes was just altered as seen in this post.
>>155784023
The LNs have all gotten great reviews and impressions from the Japanese fans on twitter, many of have read both versions. Which shows how much people care about that stuff. Complaining about stuff that mainly served no purpose but to drag the arc out is pointless.
>>155784227
No to the former yes to the later.
>>155784281
I'll take it.
Where can I see sales for every volume? Including the manga volumes.
>>155784023
Is the first urge to murder when Subaru tries to choke the fuck out of Roswaal after flipping shit over Rem?
Going over the changes most of it doesn't really bother me since they seem to just be rearranging events, but that one is a downer.
I've honestly never seen anyone talk about 'world crumbling' outside of here. I mean it's cool I guess but I wouldn't call it 'iconic'.
>>155784227
he's only named pico so far. the LN hasn't reached the part where he names the others yet.
i suspect he might end up naming them anyway because of "omega". or maybe he will only name that one. or maybe omega will be called something else. who knows~
>>155784486
yeah it's the strangulation scene. honestly i sorta do miss it (it was funny) but it's probably gone since there isn't a good point for it anymore.
These threads never change.
>>155784569
He might name Omega like that, gives Garfiel an opportunity to embrace the chuuni.
>>155784371
I think MAL has most of the sales data for the LN.
Fun fact, Vol 12 topped the chart for 2 weeks in a row, selling a total of 49k in it's 2nd week. It's probably around 55k-60k by now.
>>155784597
But I hate MAL, gimme one of your nippon savy sites like that one anon does for his doujins.
>>155784221
Would Subaru be truly happy with both Rem and Emilia as his lovers as the ending?
>>155784621
Subaru? Possibly. But not Rem nor Emilia, I think.
>>155784621
In all honesty? Probably not, the one thing he hates is hurting the people he cares about so.
>>155784689
>>155784655
What would be the best way to end the series then?
Subaru goes back home with a lover without the author revealing who won to not piss any side off or what?
>>155784583
What do you mean?
>>155784718
Rem becomes Subaru's wife. Emilia becomes Subaru's queen than Subaru seals himself for sacrifice or dies for the final time.
>>155784718
Rem dies to trigger Subaru's descent into madness, then comes Otto and Subaru's daughterus and then Emilia. He gets cut down by Reinhardt after the Emilia camp finally gets destroyed.
>>155784718
Either Rem or Emilia die for good, Subaru stays with the other, or Subaru stays sealed or gets transported to his original world with Satella and babies ever after.
>>155784614
I could look through the news articles and see if I can post the numbers latter. That's what I go to MAL for anyway.
>>155784621
He's already that decision to go through with it and accepted his feelings on the matter. Rem is fine with it so it's just up see if Emilia okay with it. This all assuming there will opportunity for polygamy to happen anyway.
>>155784718
Subaru gives a happy ending and a future where everyone can smile. Except he is not in it.
Erasing himself from existence and throwing away his joy and pride by taking his name and lifting his "curse" he inflicted upon others.
>>155784718
>>155784718
>>155784829
My alternatively view on it is that Emilia has some sort of place in a grand plan to free Satella from Envy's influence, and Subaru as well, but I have no idea what to make of it. But I'm 100% sure Pete, Flugel, Puck, Echidna and Fortuna are in it as well. No idea how would it turn out in terms of pairings, though, anything could happen.
>>155784910
Also what is the deal with Rem being Satella repellent like during arc 2? Does Rem need to die to free Satella or stop Envy or something?
>>155784718
I expect something completely heartbreaking and tragic.
>>155784950
I don't think it's that straightforward. It's more like Rem awakened feelings in Subaru that he still had something left to do, so he rejected Satella's dark world.
Or maybe it has something to do with her connection with Al and Pride. Ever noticed how Pride and Envy can work as antithesis of one another?
>>155784718
Rem becomes corrupted and forced to kill his lover. Then descends into the abyss to only crawl back out of it as a monster.
You people are depressing as fuck. Why can't we have a happy ending for this series?
>>155785133
>Implying there is a happier ending possible
>>155785133
Monkey's paw anon, monkey's paw.
>>155785073
Are you saying Rem is pride? I'll admit there are many thing regarding pride when it comes to Rem but still.
>>155785133
>Happy endings
>In this series
I may enjoy crack theories but at least I'm grounded in my expectations.
>>155785073
According to the theology behind the sins, Vanity/Pride begets Envy because the root is that the envious think they are more deserving an object than who has it
>>155785206
Al was pride, but may have left some part of his authority in Rem through ways unknown in order to separate himself from Satella (whom he has regarded in the past as an abhorrent creation). That could explain the connection between Rem and Al. That pride would be what lets Subaru stay himself in the dark world when he visits it after getting killed by Julius. A sense of individuality that transcends beyond the instrumentality that we know the Authority of Envy could be as of volume 12.
It's crack as all fuck, and there is some stuff that doesn't fit in the timeline (like when did Al meet Rem, and why did he transfer Pride to her), but it's not necessarily inherent to the theory. Needs some work, but I could see this fit.
>>155785318
*of an object
>>155762810
Would Subaru still love Emilia if she dressed and acted like how she is in pic related?
>>155785352
Depends if she can still count stairs and throw snowballs.
>>155785318
That's literally the opposite problem for Rem and Subaru. I wonder what other character relationships represents this though.
>>155785133
You don't simply enter this series with a positive mindset anon. It just doesn't work that way.
>>155785423
Regulus I guess
Is Zero Kara unirionically the prequel to Re:Zero?
It explains Emila's shitty bloodline and her shitty personality seeing that she has furry blood in her.
>>155785576
Nah, I don't think Emilia has a furry bloodline, she has a full elf and human bloodline though.
>>155785576
No, it's unconnected
>>155785133
You seem to be new here anon
>>155786176
>hope
Cue RbD being the Authority of Hope, the last item inside Pandora's Box
>>155771982
Thank you
>>155786474
I would personally murder Tappei if that happened.
>>155786474
I wanna see it happen.
>>155786513
Why?
>>155786474
>Authority of hope
>To try and try again for a better future
This gets my noggin a goin
>>155786610
It would feel extremely lame, and would be pretty much an asspull if yet another Authority appeared out of nowhere that didn't fit in with the others
>>155786474
Wait so who would get the authority of Envy then?
>>155786706
Emilia
She is very often jealous even for the most trivial interactions
>>155786706
petra will become an archbishop after she gets cucked by emilia or rem. screencap this
>>155786785
Petra was very willing to drop her antics in favor of Rem tho
>>155786817
petra is actually a spy for pandora sent to infiltrate the emilia faction, who is playing the long-game to win their trust, and will eventually usurp the faction by assassinating the clown. screencap this.
>>155786705
>Implying RbD is one of the 9 known authorities
>Implying thare are only 9 varieties of witch factors
>>155786989
And no one will care because the clown deserves to die
>>155787459
It wouldn't fit the theme, so it'd feel extremely out of place. A perfect example of bad writing
>>155785133
I believe in a happy ending for Subaru, and the other characers too.Except Emilishit. Only cunt who hasn't truly suffered.
>>155787507
What theme? Sins and vices are a lot more, the Capital Sins simply are the worst ones
Also Miasma Magic is a thing and goes beyond the signature abilities of Bishops and Witches
This without counting that Pandora's and Hector's positions already break the expected pattern
As far as canon/continuity is concerned, consider that most of the short stories we have are in the LN canon. I can't think any notable developments have happened within them that contradict the WN off hand, but its possible since they're following the updates. I suppose Priscilla is the same as LN Priscilla in her stories, so there's that.
>>155778364
Christ and I thought he was too much of a cunt in the anime at that part.
Contract when?
>>155789072
Probably by the end of arc 4
So are we sure the LN is canon, I feel the WN adds more depth for speculation
>>155789072
iirc chp 129, but I remember the final chapters are long as fuk, so expect some time for them to be translated.
>>155789221
They're both canon, LN just trims a some stuff down.
>>155762810
#HateMonogamy
>>155781637
>She basically had him on lock up till that point.
Not really. Rem was smart and knew Subaru was still all over Emilia at the point so she played it safe by offering herself to be his lesser girl and staying relevant in the competition for SubaruBowl. Any attempt from Rem to be a cunt and sabotage Subaru's relationship with Emilia would only result in permanent damages in Rem and Subaru's relationship.
>>155789072
Decent Beako doujins when?
All her doujins and porn pics are of her with partial clothes on. I want full nude sex with leg lock.
>>155789870
Beako is not for fugging, Beako is for spoiling with candies.
>>155789924
>spoiling with candies
What is she a little girl?
>>155783581
fuck off LN subaru is fucking shit and a tpyical LN character
>>155790157
Yeah, but WN Subaru is fundamentally repulsive at the start. Which I think is actually responsible for some oddities in the the LN. The framework of the story, and the basic attitudes of everyone who isn't Subaru, are the same. It's mostly Subaru who is different. So we get moments where he suddenly starts acting like a shit, or makes inappropriate jokes that seem slightly OOC. Or when he straightens his bed when Ram comes over.
>>155789971
Yes, she's a daughteru.
You wouldn't fug a daughteru, would you?
>>155790157
>typical LN character
now this is a shitpost
>>155790348
If my daughteru was Beako I'd ravage her everyday
>>155781730
I don't know anon. Rem will most likely become a massive pussy after she wakes up because she will feel incredibly indebted to everyone as they risk their life saving her (and because of her inferiority complex too), so she's not gonna say shit about the polygamy thing even if it's unfair for her. Emilia loves Subaru and is pretty much on board with everything he wants so she won't complain about the poly plan either. And lastly Subaru obviously wants both Rem and Emilia so there is nothing to prevent him from taking both. So apparently the polygamy ending is the most possible ending out of all the happy ones.
Guys I`m pretty newfagish on anime, watched the anime and read arc 4 and waiting on summary anon, watched mainstream anime mostly(jojo,DN,AoT,etc)
Any recomendations?
>>155790376
he's a emotionless faggot in arc 4 LN, easy to self insert, also dumber, not even honest who doesn't tell emilia about Rem,
>>155786474
>Authority of Hope
>Because Hope will never truly die.
>>155791454
Nah, it's just that his descent into Echidna IF territory is much more noticeable and faster. That's it, really.
>>155790338
Well, Garfiel's douchiness seems to have been toned down too. While that was easily the most annoying part about the arc, it will probably make the last loop feel less satisfying
>>155792139
I'm actually having mixed feelings about the changes. I fully understand why WN Subaru was as unpopular as he was.
Anyhow, it seems Subaru never tells Ram about the Red Oni that Cried, but he thinks of the story. As such, Ram never brings up his infidelity. Still, he thinks to himself tat Blue Oni should have been rewarded.
It's feeling like there's a little less foreshadowing for polygamy in the WN than in the anime or LN, despite the payoff being noticeably stronger. So far, Subaru's hardly interacted with Rem at all.
>>155764282
Jesus christ the disgusted look makes the picture so good
Improved Regulus.
>>155792545
because he writes the WN first so he can foreshadow many events in the LN. Polygamy wasn't hinted in the WN probably because the author didn't had plans for it at that time
>>155764282
Speaking of underwear, does anyone know whose panties Subaru is holding in pic related are? Ram? Emilia? Beatrice?
>>155792800
Improved even further ( ´∀`)
>>155793110Roswaal.
>>155793214
I wanted to see this nigga's power so badly. I hope he reappears again
>>155793066
Maybe. What strikes me as odd is that it makes the writing of the LN feel a bit less certain in direction. It first increases the Rem romance angle in the first volumes, but then seems to tone it down in the ones written after the anime.
>>155793214
Your attempt to ruin Roswaal's image doesn't work apparently.
>>155790737
Since the end of Arc 2 Rem basically does whatever she wants outside fulfilling her duties as Roswaal's servant. The biggest gimp she currently has is the unwillingness to step on others on any measure for herself, to the point of avoiding so even when it would be reasonable for her standing leading to miserable conditions like the the second wife deal, but otherwise her complex si no longer so crippling as she accepted that there are people that will go at great lengths for her.
Also you're misassessing what would be Emilia's attitude in this. Her limited understanding of the deal makes it possible for her to accept it but then she would bitch everytime Subaru looks at Rem
>>155793986
>but then she would bitch everytime Subaru looks at Rem
So would Rem (okay she might not be bitching but still getting mad or some sort) when Subaru spends more time with Emilia, but then that is the compromise both girls have to take for Subaru's sake. The only solution to this is that either of them has to stop being nice to the other. But knowing Rem, she wouldn't do it because
>the biggest gimp she currently has is the unwillingness to step on others on any measure for herself.
Emilia is too naive and kind so she wouldn't have any dramatic reaction other than getting mad at Subaru and Rem occasionally.
>>155793111
Draw
FULL
B O D Y
I M A G E S
Y O U F A G G I T
>>155791604
I just noticed that hope is indeed a major theme in this series. Hope vs. Despair, precisely.
Question. In the LN, did Satella's hand come up in the loop where Rem died? Because she just heart grabbed him, when he was just trying to think of a way to explain himself.
So, I guess that's why Subaru originally ran away and made himself look even more suspicious as a result.
>>155794544
You're really underestimating how jealous Emilia is; she is often complaining about other people getting along, and she even had a (violent) fit when Shaula hugged him.
Rem instead of being angered would be saddened but also would hide it.
So Emilia has a real chance at stopping being nice
>>155795268
Okay. It seems in the WN, Subaru isn't even allowed to try explaining himself if it'll turn out to be impossible without going into knowledge of previous loops. So, if anyone is wondering why he ran away in that loop, it's because Satella was more of a bitch in the WN and wouldn't even let Subaru try to come up with an explanation.
>>155794573
I WILL, BUT I NEEDED SO DO SOMETHING FOR THE REGULUS DRAWING
Daphne Q&A soon
preview
Q: Father-in-law! Please give me Daphne-chan to wife! (said while stuffing a folding chair into my mouth)
A: Daphne’s parents are in Daphne’s belly, so head there to ask for permission.
>>155795312
I don't know anon. Emilia is pretty okay with letting Subaru love an unknown girl and even agrees to accompany him to the tower and save Rem, so her jealousy shouldn't be that bad.
>>155795268
>>155795451
You sure? Closest I found was
>—And the moment he thought it, this happened.
>“—”
>The moment he pictured the black cloud and the world stopping, ceaseless pain gripped his head.
>His breath caught. The sensation of Emilia touching his sleeve made Subaru’s stomach twist in pain.
The way it's described it could be just fear.
>wouldn't even let Subaru try to come up with an explanation.
I think it's still like that in the LN. In the anime, after he jumps off the whale, he just talks about Rem dying because of it and him getting a huge trauma and SatellaHand still activated
>>155795561
She pulled his hair and kicked him because Shaula hugged him.
She's helping him because she's otherwise nice but also doesn't seem to fully understand what would really mean that Subaru will be dedicated to Rem
>>155795507
>She ate her parents
Or was she made to eat them by the doctor experimenting on her i wonder?
>>155795648
口にして、いっそ楽になってしまいたい、そう思った瞬間だ。
世界の停滞と黒い靄――それはスバルの諦めに誘発されるかのように、再び彼の諦観を糧に世界を侵食した。
言葉を失う。否、言葉を発する唇が微動だにしない。
当然、手も足も目も舌も動かず、空気すら完全に世界から切り離される。音と動きが失われ、無音と停止の絶対空間の再来に、スバルは文字通り絶句。
先日、『死に戻り』をエミリアに告げようと判断した際、それを強制的に遮断させた理不尽な現象だ。
黒い靄は以前より早く、より優美に黒い腕を作り出す。以前は手首から肘ほどまでだったその手が、わずかに二の腕の輪郭を形作って姿を現した。
前回と同じく、腕は躊躇う素振りを見せずに、停止するスバルの胸へ忍び込む。そして内臓と胸骨を柔らかに撫でて心臓に達し、
――瞬間、思考が消し飛び、精神が即死しかねない痛みが全身をつんざく。
He got heart grabbed. Hand formed and all.
>>155795679
>doesn't seem to fully understand what would really mean that Subaru will be dedicated to Rem
Shouldn't Emilia already get a picture of how things will go between Subaru and Rem by looking at how Subaru visits Rem's room every single night? Its not even hard to know Subaru will be closer to Rem than they were before.
>>155795935
She knows they'll be closer and Subaru will be paying a lot of attention to her, but Emilia doesn't really understand anything about relationships or interactions between men and women.
>>155795863
Anyhow, Subaru's trying to kill himself now. He couldn't bring himself to cut his throat with a pen, and now he's getting chewed on by dogs. On the positive side, the despair has got him to stop memeing and made him less focused on "chasing after Emilia's ass". Quotes, because that's not my description.
>>155795863
>now he's getting chewed on by dogs
Did he just randomly walk into the forest or did they tell him about the mabeasts?
>>155796003
>relationships or interactions between men and women.
I feel like there won't be much difference between Subaru and Rem except more cuddling and whatnots which are already similar to him visiting Rem's room every night. So as long as Subaru doesn't do something like fucking Rem, I doubt Emilia's jealousy will be triggered and break all boundaries.
>>155796275
It happened upon him when he was trying to slit his throat. He got in a bit of a struggle, and I think that's how he wound up at the cliff. The dog fell. He didn't.
>>155796328
If Rem has her memories, tongues are probably going to sweetly entwine.
>>155795935
>>155796328
Now she thinks it will be fine for her, but when Subaru and Rem will actually get to be together, she will feel left out and she NEVER takes that well
>>155796507
Emilia already knows how a kiss tastes, so she shouldn't feel that jealous. Also, she can easily ask Subaru to kiss her again.
>>155796620
No tongue was involved, and a kiss is bound to go a little differently if both sides contribute.
>>155796699
Okay that sounds lewd as fuck anon. But Subaru and Rem are not going to do that in front of everyone, are they? Unless Subaru actually wants his balls to get chopped by Ram and Emilia.
>>155796799
I'm just saying that in the WN Carmilla scene, Subaru is thinking about wanting to tangle tongues with Rem.
>>155796870
Doesn't Subaru's second kiss with Emilia scene also have some descriptions of their tongues entwining and such. But anyway my point still stands that unless Subaru goes overboard and does something too extreme with Rem, which is what he will most likely try to avoid, then Emilia's jealousy will be in check.
>>155797177
It describes their teeth hitting together, but not tongues.
>>155797240
>It describes their teeth hitting together
The inexperience is protrayed appropriately at least
>>155797331
What makes you think Subaru and Rem could do it better? Rem is still a kissless virgin as far as I know.
>>155797460
Surely she practices with Nee-sama
>>155797460
She knows the theory, she read a lot of books.
>>155797177
>second kiss
What, do they kiss again after Arc 4? Or do you mean "Taste of Life"?
>>155797958
>Or do you mean "Taste of Life"?
Yeah that's one.
>>155798088
Kinda unfair to deem it a second kiss since the first got overwritten because of assrabbits.
They should have snuck one in during the Regulus fight.
Just like that, Regulus became 1000 times better. Do you agree, bros?
>>155798506
scum with cat ears is still scum
>>155798506
Something something FULL BODY IMAGES
>>155795507
Daphne and Mabeast Q&A
https://pastebin.com/TUV8u3yq
>>155798760
Good to know Daphene is literally a cannibal
>>155796163
Oh christ
>>155798760
>Otto's only relationship was with a cat, except that the cat didn't feel anything for him
>>155796163
Well I mean some anons did want him to act more like an asshole I can almost smell the 2ch off this one
>>155798760
>Q: If Minerva and Daphne were in the same place, I get the feeling there would be an infinite loop where Daphne eats → Minerva heals, but has something like that not happened?
>A: It did happen, and they were angry.
What the fuck Daphene
>>155798943
>I can almost smell the 2ch off this one
I'm pretty sure that's the point.
>>155798760
>Q: Does Daphne-chan care more about the quantity or quality (deliciousness) of what she eats? Seeing that she created mabeasts that probably wouldn’t taste good, the Great Rabbit that can multiply infinitely, and the massive White Whale, perhaps she’s more concerned about quantity?
>A: Flavor is important too, but basically it’s quantity. The feeling of a full belly is what Daphne lives for. But, she has anorexia, so she also immediately vomits up what she’s eaten.
I knew she had anorexia
>Q: Aren’t there any mabeasts that can become human?
>A: There are, but...
But what?
>>155799229
Onis are mabeasts I am calling it now
>>155798760
>Q: At the times when Daphne-chan is producing mabeasts, how does she create them? Do they appear from nothing, detach themselves from her body, does she give birth, or something else?
>A: They emerge from her “third mouth”.
Thats lewd as fuck.
>Q: I’ve heard that Guiltylowe will be cut from the print version, but then what will happen with the time they ran across a zombie-like Elsa and ran away from her? I worry that if Guiltylowe doesn’t slow her down, Subaru will get caught and have his guts scraped open.
>A: As long as Garf breaks both of Elsa’s legs then, it’ll be fine. If she can catch up to them with just her arms, like a teketeke does, it’ll work out somehow. (note: a teketeke is a ghost or monster that looks like a human missing it’s lower body.)
>Q: It sounds like Guiltylowe’s appearance will be cut, but will the failed dust explosion also be cut? I love that scene. (´・ω・`)
>A: I’d like to keep it in some form, like the dust explosion not going off on Elsa. I like it too.
>Q: Did Guiltylowe appear to set the mansion on fire? Did the mansion burn because Guiltylowe appeared?
>A: Guiltylowe appeared for the purpose of burning it. I’ve thought up a better method to burn it, so Guiltylowe is inevitably…...
NOOOOOOOOOO JOBBERLOWE
WHY MUST YOU GO
>>155798760
>Q: Daphne-chan versus the Natsuki family in a mayonnaise drinking contest: who wins?
>A: To think that there was a fight that the Natsuki family could win; not even the author saw that one coming…...
Sasuga
>>155799373
Well at least he fufills his role as the ebony king
>>155799328
What is her "third mouth"? What is her second mouth?
>>155799373
>I worry that if Guiltylowe doesn’t slow her down, Subaru will get caught and have his guts scraped open.
Well, I just got spoiled on something fucking awesome.
Glad he decided to keep him in anyway, though the mansion may get burned down differently
>>155799229
Mabeasts also don't like those of their kind that don't have horns.
>>155799229
>>155799296
For them to be a sort of legendary race wouldn't they have to at least have existed for longer than 400 years?
>>155798760
Cannibalistic anorexic loli
>>155799861
They're called an ancient race like the giants so here is to hoping.
Alright, the crackest of crack theories time. What if Rem is some kind of changeling-like mabeast that can infest a pregnant Oni and stole a horn? Essentially she'd be like a Cuckoo, stealing resources from the parents and her sibling, which could explain her more mabeast-like behavior when compared to other Oni, like being able to detect the witch scent.It also then makes natural sense for her to trying cucking things
>>155800155
Are we going off the other crack theory where Rem is a Pandora creation or some shit?
>>155799328
>>155800203
That wasn't a theory. That was a dream.
>>155799328
probably like this
>>155800203
That could be, but I don't see how Pandora would care that much. There could just be a race of fairy/changeling-like mabeasts and the true reason Oni kill twins, but their pride made them forget the actual reason.
>>155799823
Neither do Oni.
>>155799940
Satella is ancient history to them all.
>>155800314
>Neither do Oni.
That was kind of my point
Im waiting for second season
https://youtu.be/PlAsiFlZagA
>>155800356
no we don't need a another shit adaption
>>155800356
A second season would have to begin with the biggest "fuck you" to the audience ever.
>>155800441
To the Remfags.
>>155800479
>audience
>Remfags
Literally the same.
>>155800441
A great way to start a season, to be honest. End the first episode with Toyota nonchalantly shoving a knife into his throat.
>>155800479
49% in popularity polls
>>155800441
I think it could be done, make it a big "oh shit" moment and set the tone of the season with how utterly broken subaru is.
>>155800532
That scene could be absolute kino like
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GGfBoWR8AyE
>>155799328
I`m not sure if I want to know
>>155800759
>>155800736
>That scene could be absolute kino like
If they end up doing it, I wish they'd have no music in it. Just ambient sounds, maybe slight focus on Subaru's heartbeat and breathing and just a slow, single cut of him stabbing himself and bleeding out on the floor for the ED.
Or something along those lines at least, so long as they don't put music on top of it.
>>155800933
I just want to see the text "Subaru saw hell, and only, hell" appear
>>155799631
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vagina_dentata
>>155800931
>urethra
>>>/d/
>>155800989
Is that line still in the LN?
>>155800989
Cringy and exaggerating.
>>155800736
>49% in popularity polls
actually 60-70% in the last poll that was after the anime
>>155798760
>Q: It seems that if Daphne-chan was surrounded by Great Rabbits, she could eat automatically the rest of her life, but does that mean that the Great Rabbits would run away from Daphne?
>A: Daphne-chan was already dead by the time that the Three Great Mabeasts really began to be active.
They came about after she died? Did all the Witches fuck things up with their death?
>>155801447
He said they only started to be really active after she died, no that she created them in her death.
Though I'm really curious as to how did Satella kill them, given Echidna's soul and body are still lying around.
>>155801410
Link?
>>155801378
Honestly, the dude probably thinks of it as the worst moment of his life
>>155801815
If only he knew how bad things were going to get.
And we're not even halfway through.
>>155801683
Echidna was 'killed' by the Dragon before her actual body was killed, which is why her soul is where it is. The others seemed to have died due to circumstances rather than Satella directly killing any of them.
Daphne starved to death in a desert, Minerva was caught in some trap and went crazy and died, Carmilla burned to death and Typhon was caught in a flood (Or switch those two, I can't remember which was which), and Sekhmet was dropped off the Great Cascade while fighting the Dragon.
>>155801969
I'm pretty sure Subaru still considers that to be the worst moment in his life.
>>155802264
>Minerva was caught in some trap and went crazy and died,
A Q&A said she was led into a trap, where she was caught by Satella's Witch Time Authority.
>>155802326
What the fuck is a Witch Time Authority?
I'm actually thinking Satella might have the ability to create authorities.
>>155802491
It's an Authority called Witch Time. There are no clear details on it.
>Q: In the past, Minerva was trapped by the elves, but what on earth were they thinking?
>A: The elves were collateral damage in an effort to make Minerva-tan fall into a trap. The elves were sent as a suicide squad, and in order to save them, Minerva-tan ran, fell under the influence of the time authorities, Witch Time.
>Q: What’s Witch Time!?
>A: Being Pakkuncho’ed by the Witch of Envy. (Note: Not sure what pakkuncho is, aside from a cookie brand)
>>155802491
That would probably be Pandora, honestly. Her Authority is literally pulling shit out of her ass.
Satella is just probably an insanely high level yin magic user (along with her authority of envy)
>>155802326
>>155802491
>>155802556
Witch Time is a reference to Bayonetta's ability to freeze enemies in time for easy combos
>Q: Aren’t there any mabeasts that can become human?
>A: There are, but...
Oni?
>>155802691
Doesn't really make sense.
>>155802691
>There are, but...
I bet the next words that come next are nearly extinct
>>155802654
Maybe it's Satella's version of Regulus Greed since she also has Unseen Hands
>>155802847
Witch beasts are known by their horns. The closest they would get to a human would be a human with a hidden horn. The answer is also clearly withholding information. That suggests it's important.
>>155803298
I'd say it's what lets her freeze the world while she toys with Subaru's heart.
>>155803356
For:
Witch Beasts have a Horn
Oni have a Horn
Against:
Oni should have existed for longer than 400 years
Oni become weak and die without their horn
Oni besides Rem can't smell the witch scent
Oni don't have a natural hatred for witch scented things
Oni are associated with Pride
Oni were persecuted for their strength, not for any similarity to witch beasts and witch beasts don't come up in any of their descriptions
Oni need to actually eat to sustain themselves
>>155803712
Oni have two horns
>>155803712
>Oni should have existed for longer than 400 years
They're called an ancient race along with the giants
>Oni become weak and die without their horn
Mabeasts need mana supply in order to be tamed, because they use it for mana absorption.
>Oni need to actually eat to sustain themselves
The bigger the organism the more fuel it needs.
>>155803744
Are there mabeasts with multiple horns in the story yet?
>>155803792
I think arc 6 with the regenerator mabeasts that re-grow horns.
>>155803792
There are two-headed snakes among them.
>>155803786
Rem is smaller than an Ulgarm and those don't actually need food.
>>155803903
More strength means more food I guess?
>>155803976
It could be the human-like aspect then. The more human and the less beast and whatnot.
Or maybe it's the opposite and Daphne based the Mabeasts on the Onis
>>155804131
Maybe Daphne is an Oni
>>155798760
What is this talk about Guiltylowe being cut? I thought they made him show up in previous loops in the LN instead of just being in the last one with the WN?
Or did they mean him jobbing and burning to death from Otto's tricks?
>>155803298
Ho, good point. So Minerva's death would come after Echidna's death.
Except her soul/authority is still in her, and her body is in Sanctuary, so Satella couldn't have nom'd it with shadows
>>155798930
Some people made some Frederica pairing comics because of it.
>>155804293
Holy shit
>>155804547
Probably the jobbing. He still died to Frederica offscreen, taking her out with Rem and Petra too, but at least he didn't show up to literally do jack shit.
>>155804547
These QAs are old, he evidently kept him even after all the rumors circulating that he would be cut.
>>155804815
Echidna said Minerva was the first to die because she's reckless.
Welp. I'm not noticing too many differences in the last chapters of Arc 2 Subaru. I do see some phrases which make me think Yenpress translated some things pretty poorly.
Just got to where he sees Rem's hand in his dream, reaching out from behind him to grab his hand and pull him back away from Satella. I suppose that's a thing in this story, that he also see with Petra's handkerchief. The love of other people seems like it can be used to ward her away.
>>155805835
I suppose that sort of might make sense with the envy angle
>>155805835
So everything is pretty much the same in terms of character? He doesnt sound like such a jackass in arc 3 though. Unless it really is an envy thing
>>155806223
The impression I get is that WN Subaru is much worse when he's not taking things seriously. Maybe a little better when he is? I don't think he mentioned Rem's boobs being bigger than Ram's, unless I missed something.
>>155805835
>some phrases which make me think Yenpress translated some things pretty poorly
I'm curious for a comparison, I haven't looked at the YP translation outside of what gets posted in the thread
>>155806223
Yeah he mellows out by the end of arc 2 somewhat. It's only early arc 2 that he's a complete meme jackass. Though he's still a pathetic jackass, just not one with the space to meme unrepentantly since shit is serious.
Point is Subaru is scum until From Zero.
I remember reading arc 1 that he gave a way stronger impression of being a self-loathing fuckup but that was a while ago
Owari is still fucking at it
>>155806500
So basically the same Subaru we have in arc 2 but his scummyness is more apparent. What was the reaction he had in the first loop?
>>155806699
He must really love that chapter
Satella's name is apparently important
Satella -> Satellite
The moon is a satellite
The moon is implied to be important
What if Satella is (sealed on) the moon
>>155806627
>I remember reading arc 1 that he gave a way stronger impression of being a self-loathing fuckup but that was a while ago
I'm going to check that out.
>>155806627
>I'm curious for a comparison, I haven't looked at the YP translation outside of what gets posted in the thread
It's just a bunch of little things. I don't recall all of the examples, but it fucked up on a few points. Mostly things which make me think the translators aren't very familiar with the series. I haven't read the Japanese version of the LN, so I can't do a perfect comparison.
Does the Satella scene in the LN make it clear that Rem's hand reached out from behind him to grab his hand?
>>155806788
>The moon is implied to be important
Because magic power diminishes on nights that the moon can't be seen or something? I'm sure that's just an offhand remark.
Besides, Satella is very much sealed on the ground, Subaru's crew even got close to her sealing shrine and everything.
>>155799328
>Q: How does Daphne-chan give birth to mabeasts?
>A: They pop out of her third mouth.
Someone call asanagi
>>155806872
Just generally
The moon gets focus at the end of arc 1 when Reinhardt's all forshadowy like "THIS MAY BE THE LAST TIME WE CAN GAZE CALMLY AT THE MOONnn..."
Constant comparisons between Emilia and the moon
When shit starts going down there's usually a moon involved
WoE loop in Sanctuary had a prominent moon
And its space shit and this series is all about space shit
Reminder that we somehow find this cannibal cute as fuck.
>>155807069
To be fair, she is cute as fuck if you don't go close to her and get to know her from a distance.
>>155807069
She's just really chill
You know what her deal is and you could hang back and hang out with her until she gets too hungry to speak
>>155807147
Then you can throw cookies or children at her.
>>155796799
Pretty sure she risked his balls getting chopped off numerous times trying to make his precious potato smile again. Plus I don't think neither of them would mind considering he'd be a blubbering mess when Rem comes back.
>>155807008
For once I actually approve of this
>>155807047
But who was moon?
>>155807930
>>155807967
>The moon was Subaru
>>155807967
He is become moons
>>155807967
Have we seriously considered where Subaru actually is before he respawns?
>>155808782
My personal bet is somewhere near the waterfall. Because of that opening sequence in first urge to murder.
Maybe Satella's seal.
>>155808782
The same realm of darkness Petelgeuse was in before Satella slapped him out of Subaru's body.
We don't know what it is at all though.
>>155808782
I say its the moon
>>155804293
What if the mabeasts are just warped versions of Onis?
>>155785331
Rem can't be Pride because she is too weak to be a Sin Archbishop. She gets owned by almost everything (except Subaru) in arc 2 and 3 so it's kinda hard to imagine Rem as Pride. Plus, she doesn't show any trait of Pride either, other than the typical pride of any oni.
>>155806788
Blame poor transliteration.
Satella -> Stella
>>155808841
>before Satella slapped him out of Subaru's body
>slapped him out
He never left..
>>155810685
>She gets owned by almost everything (except Subaru) in arc 2 and 3
She would have wiped the mabeasts by herself, and Invisible Hands would have wrecked anyone unaware of them
>>155810913
サテラ -> satella. google this and most of the results will be re: zero or have to do with satellites
ステラ -> stella. google this and most of the results will be stella (like the subaru stella automobile kek kek very funny).
no joke the nips think her name is satellite too
>>155811023
>She would have wiped the mabeasts by herself
The dogs injured her pretty badly though.
>Invisible Hands would have wrecked anyone unaware of them
Even Julius was injured when fighting Petelgeuse despite already knowing all of his tricks. And because Rem is (much) weaker than Julius, the chance of her being able to beat Petelgeuse is small.
>>155811354
>>155810976
He did at that point,he only joined back after being crushed by the wagon wheel. We don't know what's currently inside Subaru's body at the moment, either his soul, or the authority has some lingering sentiment from Petelgeuse.
>>155811354
>The dogs injured her pretty badly though.
Yes but thos bites were minor wounds that her regeneration could fend off, and she was killing them prety easily so the curse wouldn't take effect.
Subaru wanted to save her because he doesn't really know how strong she is, while Ram didn't want her to suffer the strain.
Regarding the comparison with Julius, he's more skilled, but she has more strenght (arguably she is the living person with the highest natural strenght in Lugunica) and against Pete she could go long range with her icicles or the chain while Julius was limited to his sword, and she's fast enough to avoid the hands too.
>>155812494
Everyone is fast enough to avoid hands though, even Subaru. What both of you anons seem to argue is that Rem isn't strong enough to be an archbishop. Except people forget Subaru is literally an archbishop right now.
>>155793111
Is this what human puck looks like?
>>155814197
Like this
>>155801769
can't remember the site but it was after the anime but only female character
>>155803298
>also has Unseen Hands
you can see satella hands unlike betelgeuse hands. subaru mentioned in arc4,
>>155815398
>subaru mentioned in arc4,
Did anyone else ever see Satella's hands? Subaru can see both.
>>155810685
>Rem can't be Pride because she is too weak to be a Sin Archbishop.
Regulus is literally shit at fighting and a total weenie except his Authority makes him invincible. The gluttonies steal experience and techniques from others, so their strength stems from their authority as well. Pete is inexperienced at fighting and not great at it even with an authority. Provided Fortuna is Sirius, she'd probably be the only archbishop that is 'strong' without having their particular authority.
>>155806726
What do you mean? The maids were generally rude to him, but this time it was clear he deserved every ounce of abuse. Emilia was oblivious to his massive creep factor, so she acted the same.
Anyhow, most of the other differences is that there are less scenes where it gives Rem's perspective and less scenes of him hanging out with Rem and Ram.
Also, the scene with Ram and Roswaal at the end seems mostly the same. Ram blushes when Roswaal calls them pawns. There are the same lines about how Rem isn't directly loyal to Roswaal like Ram is, but serves him because he takes care of Ram. The same lines about how while Ram prioritizes Rem above herself, she can't honestly say she's her #1.
I think there might be a bit more flirting between the two, and a few differences in lines here and there. It's mostly the same. I think part of it exists to contradict Subaru's misconceptions of Rem's relationship with Roswaal. I'm not sure he's cleared those thoughts up yet. He hasn't thought about Rem fucking Roswaal for awhile now, but he also hasn't had any thoughts to show he changed his mind about thinking that.
>>155815915
>Pete is inexperienced at fighting and not great at it even with an authority.
Petelgeuse was damn near impossible to kill, even without his Authority.
>>155816206
Not even close, he just switches bodies and you keep not giving a shit. He's an Earth spirit so he has Earth magic and that's about it.
>>155816177
Arc 2 of the WN seems a bit messy and more cohesive at the same time
>>155816177
Will you read arc 3 for us too?
>>155816429
I suppose. The LN improves a lot of things, but keeps the general course of events the same. Which means Subaru occasionally has to take the same course of action as his WN self, even if it makes less sense for him or circumstances are slightly different.
I'd also say most of the Rem perspective scenes added in the LN are still mostly compatible with the WN. There are only a few minor differences in the final loop. There are no haircut scenes, so that never gets brought up. I don't think he checks Rem and Ram's hands to confirm they were the ones who held his hands either, but I may have missed a line. I think he still realizes.
>>155816467
If anything interesting comes up, I'll let you know.
>>155817159
Oh, and I also have to say that Subaru's developing sympathy for Rem seems to help bring out his good side, which also shows in the Mayo chapters. He seems to at least act more sensitive with her, especially compared to his behavior in the early chapters.
>>155818256
You want to talk about developing?
>>155816414
>he just switches bodies
With a shit ton of spares all over the continent.
>>155818447
Your point?
>>155818447
They need to be a certain range for him to even be able to do that. The ones he had with him were spread around the area, from the looks of it, the range is not that big.
>>155818544
How much range?
>>155818447
They have to be within a certain range. Subaru not really dying when you kill him doesn't make him a badass fighter either. Pandora can't seemingly die but she either sucks at or is unwilling to fight as well.
>>155818593
Enough that when he got crunched in a wagon wheel he didn't jump to a new body. He brought ten fingers with him, but those weren't all his spare bodies on the continent.
>>155818676
What about his ten toes?
>>155818593
I obviously don't know specifics, but clearly since he had to possess people a certain distance away, and they were relatively close, obviously they can't be from the distance of a village to say the road where they fought the whale.
The longest one we saw was probably when they killed him in front of the cave, and he took over freckles. Though she might have been in the forest nearby.
The main point is: even if he has people on the continent as spare bodies, it doesn't mean jack shit if the ones nearby to him are all dead, or if a spirit user nearby has a contract. The death in the wagon wheel was like midway between the whale area, and the village, and yet he couldn't save himself.
>>155818321
I already did. His whole talk with Rem and his concern for her just stood out to me more, because of how much more self-centered and obnoxious he was acting at the beginning. It also gave him something to do other than creep on Emilia.
I'm going to have to start reading more Arc 3 to see their interactions, but I think it's possible SubaRem gained ground because he acted like a cooler guy with her.
>>155784718
Subaru dies permanently, is returned to his original world with his memories intact and inevitably returns to his old self while being worse than before. Emilia snaps, finds a a way to be bring Subaru back, ends up needing to sacrifice herself resulting into time being rewinded to EP1.
>>155818676
When he got crunched by the wagon wheel, he didn't take a new body because he'd given up after meeting Satella.
>>155818836
>SubaRem
Needs a better name.
>>155818952
BaRemsu
>>155818836
>That maid outfit
Proto/beta-Rem is the cutest.
>>155819012
Better but still not good enough.
>>155818907
No, he was just out of bodies. He jumps to Subaru only after all available bodies are gone, otherwise Subaru would always be the first one he goes to, but Subaru is always the last. Him trying to jump to Subaru after getting stabbed was because he was out of shit, and him being unable to jump to any more after that is for the same reason, no available bodies within range.
>>155819127
You should always have an extra body ready.
>>155800479
kek
>>155819173
Well he didn't because they hunted them all down beforehand.
>>155819276
Those bastards!
>>155818836
So you're telling me that Rem literally brings out the best out of Subaru?
>>155818836
THIS IS WHAT I NEEDED
>>155819411
YOU NEED HELP
>>155819467
About what?
>>155819467
wat
>>155819508
>>155819515
Nevermind wrong thread and I fucked up.New kaguya out soon.
>>155819335
I honestly can't understand why Subaru can only be at his best when he's with Rem. Does Rem have some special charms that Subaru really love or something?
>>155819546
Apology accepted but what thread was it for?
>>155819593
Thank god I didn't post the paragraph
>>155819588
They probably see themselves in each other.
>>155819656
That is pretty exciting!
reading some Q&A
sound like that Otto and Rem would get along good
>どんな話が読みたいか レムが目覚めたときオットーを不審者として撃退する話。よく考えたらエミリア陣営でレムが面識ないのオットーだけですし。
性格的な相性はそんなに悪くなさそうなのにね。虐げられるオットーと遠回しに毒舌なレム。いつものロズワール邸です。
>>155819276
Dude only had ten in Arlam, but he had more.
>>155819802
12 more?
>>155819787
We got the family package now.
>>155819802
That is what I said earlier, its why we know his power has a range and he can't just teleport across the continent.
>>155819938
Talking about family packages is not allowed on this board.
>>155819787
>Rem and Otto would get along like bros
>Rem is like Beako's mom
>Rem and Subaru love each other
It just keeps getting better and better
>>155820000
But it will be over soon.
>>155819787
They'd get along like vegetables? That doesn't sound healthy...
>>155820249
Vegetables are super healthy!
>>155819938
Creepy uncle Otto who fucks cats?
>>155820376
At least he fuck cats and not daughterus
>>155820738
Nevada-chan has come back to us!
>>155820846
He should fuckNee-samas
>>155821335
That has long since been sunk anon
>>155821428
You gotta believe. Otto can steal the gospel and become the clown.
>>155821335
Any chance Julius x Ram ship would happen? Would nee-sama finally find Julius's pride, his heroic acts and his stubbornness cute and endearing and hopelessly fall in love with him? Seems to me that right now Julius is the only one that can solve nee-sama's problems so I kinda think they should end up together.
>>155822092
You all need to stop with the random shipping of shit. We need actual solid evidence first.
>>155822201
Yeah but they are both inside the tower in arc 6 right now and will stay there for a while so it's not unreasonable to expect something to happen between them.
>>155822366
There needs to be something to happen first to base it off of though like Gaaf or something, because as of now its basically grasping for air.
>>155822092
Julius needs to not be gay first