>folded over 1k times

>OP gif is no longer guaranteed replies
Neo-/a/ is so strange

Fantasy katana is not made from shitty material so it makes sense.
Imagine a modern katana made from high quality stuff.

KATANAH?

>>155754588
>Imagine a modern katana made from high quality stuff
Whats the point
Katana exists because there was no good material for it

>>155750763

and i still don't know what anime this is from

anyone mind teeling me?

>>155754588
In world war 2 it was pretty common for Japanese officers to wear an old family katana. 200 years old or even older. And there are dozens of accounts from both sides of them using those blades to slice through modern steel equipment like rifles or artiliary pieces. If they could do that with old katanas made with low carbon steel, it really is amazing to imagine what would be possible.

>>155750763
Are swords supposed to cut through each other? Shouldn't this be impossible?

>>155754645
Sharper and sturdier, they have good material now so they should try it.

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Katana?

>>155754683
Seiken no Blacksmith, I think.

>>155751169
oh the endless butthurt, man that was fantastic

>>155751169
It's been years and I still don't know what swords were being compared.

Katana < ??? (that gets cut in half) < ???

>>155754722
Can i copy this bait?
It is too good, so have my (you) as payment.

>>155751169
Not defending the katana faggotry and it is clear that they aren't as sturdy, but they are made for slicing and european swords for piercing. So this test is trying to prove what exactly?

>>155754795
basically katana is a saber, but worse

>>155750763
Never stop making these threads

>>155751169
The katana doesn't get cut though, it shears, meaning the blade didn't do shit, it was just the weight behind the swing. The tip was also anchored.
The longsword does get cut, or depressed, can't tell

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>>155751169
>He doesn't hit with monouchi
Fucking retard, what the fuck did he expect.

>>155754870
>this is a show about motorboats

>>155751169
Why did you post the fake one?

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>>155755613
You mean motorcycles.

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>>155750763
*pffft* Nothing personnel... kid.

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The interesting thing about the Nippon steel argument: Its premise is flawed.

I hate to be an advocate of the weebs but: The modern katana has much more in common with its WW2 officer sword variant than the traditional katana that anime/manga fellate so hard.

Unfortunately: There exist no smiths alive who make them exactly as they used to so until a museum is willing to have one of theirs spliced and examined we really have no idea what their durability profile is.

Here's a short doc on one of the smiths trying to replicate the old forging techniques: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PSZKGzGqOt0

>>155755034
To prove that if you clamp a piece of metal to a rigid bench and hit it with another piece of metal the clamped metal will remain rigid

>>155757341
>superior wood with over 1000 rings

>>155757341
ok I'm triggered

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>>155757341
made me laugh

>>155757605
I want to lick Chiya's tummy

>>155757449
>fellating a katana
That sounds messy.

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Swordlets, when will they learn?

>>155758067
Let me guess: the weeb wins in the end?

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>>155755758
real one

>>155758156
>being folded so many times it shapeshifts into a better weapon.
Nice one nippon!

>>155757499
Some tribe cultivating a bonsai tree for a thousand years to make the strongest legendary stick ever would be a fun idea.

>>155758156
Ha!
Take that you western faggots. I knew glorious katana would be superior to any other sword.

>>155758151
Do you even need to ask?

>>155757499
>over 1000 rings
Just how THICC would that tree be?

>>155758156
>RTL II

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>>155757341
what the fuck

>mfw the LN and manga have NTR

>>155757341
I really want to watch this, the puppetry seems amazing, but even lurking I haven't seen people actually name the show. Any non-Pico help?

>>155758801
Did you even try going to a search engine and typing "xianxia puppet show"?

>>155758801
Really? Thunderbolt Fantasy

>>155755034
It means a late medieval European army would shit all over a Chinese army
It means cloud white >>> piss yellow

>>155755034
>european swords are made for piercing

uuh, except for rapiers, no european swords were also made to be able to slice and very effectively so

>>155754722
good bait

>>155754884
katana<arming sword<kriegmesser

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>>155757499
No anon, this tree... not had 100 rings

>>155757341
they had shitty wood back then, so imagine if they used present day sticks to fight. japanese officers used to carry 200 year old sticks into battle during ww2 so imagine if they had modern technology sticks

>>155759093
>Only*
Fuck mobile posting

>>155758156
thats not even the same sword.

>>155757341
>>155758801
TF was awesome. All dat Shofuku bullying, then that twist at the end. The last episode was trolling on crack.

>>155757341
Shit, I regret not watching Thunderbolt fantasy while it was airing. The puppet premise turned me off, but after watching the first episodes I can tell it's really good. I should have never doubted based the Urobuchi

>>155759255
>he spinned with the sword and his head as well
So what, he managed to keep only his neck in a static position? It doesn't make any sense.

>>155759093
>>155759131
>ba-bakana

Thunderbolt Fantasy was great. Watching the silent webms just makes it look kind of goofy and like some random meme show but every part of it is legitimately excellent, the writing, music, movement of the puppets, pacing. It was fantastic.

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>>155757341
THE LAND IS CLOAKED IN DEEPEST BLUE

>>155758915
Considering I don't know the term xianxia, no I didn't.

>>155758921
Thanks anon!

>>155759093
I remember seeing this gif in a youtube montage so long ago, holy shit
>last in the series was in Dec '11
what the fuck where did the time go

>>155759414
Don't you use the catalog? Or you heavily sticky/hide threads? We only had maybe one or two threads for every episode but they were there every week. It was highly visible even if there weren't many anons watching and posting. It was fun as fuck though.

>>155755034
>So this test is trying to prove what exactly?
They've cited an 'expert' from an American documentary who claimed katana could effortlessly cut through any other sword. That's what they put to the test.

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>>155759272
Judging by the first episodes the show could well be a ridiculously over the top cliche from beginning to end, but I loved how shameless it was about it.

>>155755577
>implying that would have made any difference

>>155759544
But what's the point of using items made from modern materials with modern methods instead of actual original ones? Medieval europeans couldn't even melt iron properly, how would they have a chrome steel broadsword?

>>155759592
It would make a difference as you would direct more force to the thing you're hitting. Still katana would be the one losing.

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>>155759337
This is sudoku on a different level. Obviously, the angular inertia of the sword keeps it rotating as his body comes to rest, cutting off the head.

That's it. I'm sick of all this "Masterwork Bastard Sword" bullshit that's going on in the d20 system right now. Katanas deserve much better than that. Much, much better than that.

I should know what I'm talking about. I myself commissioned a genuine katana in Japan for 2,400,000 Yen (that's about $20,000) and have been practicing with it for almost 2 years now. I can even cut slabs of solid steel with my katana.

Japanese smiths spend years working on a single katana and fold it up to a million times to produce the finest blades known to mankind.

Katanas are thrice as sharp as European swords and thrice as hard for that matter too. Anything a longsword can cut through, a katana can cut through better. I'm pretty sure a katana could easily bisect a knight wearing full plate with a simple vertical slash.

Ever wonder why medieval Europe never bothered conquering Japan? That's right, they were too scared to fight the disciplined Samurai and their katanas of destruction. Even in World War II, American soldiers targeted the men with the katanas first because their killing power was feared and respected.

So what am I saying? Katanas are simply the best sword that the world has ever seen, and thus, require better stats in the d20 system. Here is the stat block I propose for Katanas:

(One-Handed Exotic Weapon)
1d12 Damage
19-20 x4 Crit
+2 to hit and damage
Counts as Masterwork

(Two-Handed Exotic Weapon)
2d10 Damage
17-20 x4 Crit
+5 to hit and damage
Counts as Masterwork

Now that seems a lot more representative of the cutting power of Katanas in real life, don't you think?

tl;dr = Katanas need to do more damage in d20, see my new stat block.

>>155759862
>fold it up to a million times
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CtBus_iU-PQ

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>>155754722
>slice through modern steel equipment like rifles or artiliary pieces.

>>155759255
That vape duck never fails to amuse me.

>>155759754
>But what's the point of using items made from modern materials with modern methods instead of actual original ones?
If you had watched the documentary you would have realised that it was made from tamahagane by a licensed smith. The fact that the blade bends rather than breaking should indicate that you're not dealing with a modern blade.

>Medieval europeans couldn't even melt iron properly, how would they have a chrome steel broadsword?
You don't need to melt iron to make a shiny sword. The material you get out of a bloomery is perfectly fine for that.

>>155759812
There is no "winner" here. A sword's purpose is not to cut through other swords but through the man wielding it. The point is that some people claim katana can cut through swords and this video debunks it.

>>155758067
Need the sauce of this

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>>155759862
triying to create a new copypasta?go for it pal

>>155759862
>I should know what I'm talking about.
You don't.
> I can even cut slabs of solid steel with my katana.
What steel? Either you cut a really soft steel or you're cutting aluminium or other shit.
>Japanese smiths spend years working on a single katana and fold it up to a million times to produce the finest blades known to mankind.
They fold steel around 10 times. It may create around thousand layers but it wasn't folded that many times because it would actually weaken the construction.
>Katanas are thrice as sharp as European swords and thrice as hard for that matter too.
Katanas are just a little bit harder than european swords, but hard isn't always better as hard means brittle. As for sharpness - it really depends heavily on blade geometry and angle. Katana's blade geometry makes it a little bit more forgiving but it isn't that big of a deal.
>I'm pretty sure a katana could easily bisect a knight wearing full plate with a simple vertical slash.
We aren't living in a fantasy. Nothing can cut through armor. That's what it was for.
>Ever wonder why medieval Europe never bothered conquering Japan?
Because:
1) We didn't know that much about it.
2) It wasn't worth it as Japan natural resources were scarce.
As for the rest of your post - grow up and read some books that are not fantasy.

>>155754871
come on man we have rules against spoonfedding

>>155760483
My little Anon can't be this new.

>>155758067
I can't tell if that technique is legit or not. I'm pretty sure that shit would be EXTREMELY fucking dangerous to the wielder. As a desperate tactic to try and grab a hold of the weapon i could see it, but otherwise it just feels less effective than normal.

>>155760463
>new

>>155760745
It's not that dangerous if you grip it properly.

>>155759862
That's it. I'm sick of all this "Masterwork Bastard Sword" bullshit that's going on in the d20 system right now. Macuahuitl deserve much better than that. Much, much better than that.

I should know what I'm talking about. I myself commissioned a genuine macuahuitl in Tenochtitlan for two goats and three sacks of cacao beans (that's about $6,000) and have been practicing with it for almost 2 years now. I can even cut slabs of solid steel with my macuahuitl.

Aztec smiths spend weeks working on a single macuahuitl and sharpen the edges up to a dozen times to produce the finest weapons known to mankind.

Macuahuitl are thrice as sharp as European swords and thrice as hard for that matter to. Anything a longsword can cut through, a macuahuitl can cut through better. I'm pretty sure a macuahuitl could easily chop a Spanish conquistador, his horse, and their plate armor in half with a simple vertical slash.

Ever wonder why medieval Europe never bothered conquering Central America? That's right, they were too scared to fight the disciplined Aztecs and their macuahuitl of destruction. Even in the sixteenth century, Spanish explorers targeted the macuahuitl-wielding Aztecs with smallpox-infected blankets first because their killing power was feared and respected.

So what am I saying? Macuahuitl are simply the best swords that the world has ever seen, and thus, require better stats in the d20 system. Here is the stat block I propose for macuahuitl:

(One-Handed Exotic Weapon) 1d12 Damage 19-20 x4 Crit +2 to hit and damage Counts as Masterwork

(Two-Handed Exotic Weapon) 2d10 Damage 17-20 x4 Crit +5 to hit and damage Counts as Masterwork

Now that seems a lot more representative of the cutting power of macuahuitl in real life, don't you think?

tl;dr = Macuahuitl need to do more damage in d20, see my new stat block.

>>155760483
>Nothing can cut through armor.
A blowtorch can.

>>155759862
It always felt weird how the one handed katana only has a 19-20 crit in this pasta
It has a 18-20 already

>>155760483
Is pretending to be baited a new form of baiting now?

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>>155760876

>>155759862
Fuck off /tg/.

>>155760745
Wear chainmail.

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>>155758396
That much.

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>>155754722
>And there are dozens of accounts from both sides of them using those blades to slice through modern steel equipment like rifles or artiliary pieces.
Don't forget how one captured sailor managed to cleave an aircraft carrier in half to escape. Look at that clean slice.

Of course the americans learned their lesson and refused to pick up survivors from sunken ships unless they discarded their sidearms.

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>>155755034
>>155759033
Somewhat right European swords for the most part where sharp near the upper middle of the blade and they could very well cut and pierce if used properly.

But more often times they where used like edged blunt weapons and made to be decently sturdy able to clash against metal and not fall apart. While the tip used to for driving into by hold the part of the blade right above the hilt and thrusting forward another technique was to flip you sword around holding it by the lower middle and use the counter weight at the bottom of the handle like blunt which is called bludgeoning. It was mainly used to by knights fighting other knights in sturdy armor when they could not pierce with the blade the whacked each other in the head using this technique among others.

>>155758552

Rape =/= NTR.

>>155754884
looks like hand in half sword

>>155758156
>THIS PROVES MUH LONGSWORG IS SUPERIOR!1!!

weaponfags are the worst

>>155754683
Blacksmith no meido academy

>>155759582
>cliche
It's more like [spoiler/]a deconstruction[/spoiler] of the RPG party trying to take down the big bad.

>>155761900
But it at the very least proves it has superior materials. Later on, they also prove it has superior stability.

>>155751169
>tfw always preferred giant hunks of iron you couldn't even call swords over shitty Katana

>>155759353

The anime of the season wasn't even an anime, get your shit together nips

>>155761968
>[spoiler/]
Lurk more.

>>155758067
T-the knight wins, right? His big, long sword and amour looks so much cooler than the half naked man(f) with his tiny, bent sword.

>>155760037
Can i save this image?

>>155762252
sorry

>>155760745
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mordhau

>>155760463

Are you braindead or underage?

>>155753373
>Neo-/a/
You mean nu-/a/

>>155762042
No it doesn't, it only proves that katanas bend, which is obvious to anyone that's not an idiot.
Katanas were made that way for a good reason.

Different context in history is what made weapons different, comparing them in a modern setting to try to find out a "winner" makes no fucking sense.

That's why i'm always triggered whenever i see some fat biker faggot smashing melons with a longsword talking about something he doesn't know about.

>>155762385
No, it's good if a sword bends, the european sword flexed when used. That katana didn't bend, it fucking deformed and took a set with one swing.

>>155762385
Katanas were made that way because Japan had shit iron with loads of impurities. Ther's no advantage in battle to have a sword like that.

>>155762534
Why bother arguing with someone that didn't watch the context of the webms, let alone the webms themselves? You're wasting your time man, it's obvious that he has no idea what he's talking about.

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>>155762534
That's what happens when you hit something hard like a sword's edge to the point where the edge breaks away. Katana have a hard steel edge and a soft, iron spine and are thus prone to bending.

>>155762736
Which is why they are inferior to blades made entirely out of flex steel.

>>155762534
Yes because it's not made of spring steel, you're smashing a softer blade with full force against a very small point.
The differential hardening in the katana is what makes it softer in the spine, while a classic sword it's quenched in it's entirety.

>>155762617
Wrong, the iron in japan was just as good, the difference was in the smelting process.
And i don't think that makes it worse, since it did what it was designed for pretty damn good.

>>155762896
Inferior in what way?

>>155762896
>calling the iron loaf "flex steel"
And they call the weebs delusional.

>>155763007
Inferior in the way that the sword will become unusable in many situations that the spring steel sword will not, and at no point does the katana have an advantage over the spring steel sword.

>>155763026
>it isn't steel because I say so
Well it certainly went up against the steel edge of the katana without much damage.

>>155763099
And that was a sword from the 12th century Europe, right? They are bold to use such a relic in a test like that.

>>155763194
It was a sword made using the techniques and materials used in the 12th century, as was the katana. Unfortunately, Japanese swordmaming just wasn't even on the level of later Celts.

>>155751169
I don't think that's a katana, or even if it is. It's made in china or something.

>>155763298
Why can't people just accept that katanas weren't that great?

>>155763283
If you actually believe that, I'm very sorry for you.

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>>155760922
Is replying to reply to obvious bait the Evangelion of baiting?

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>>155750763

>>155763544
Yeah dude the Japanese were totally lightyears ahead of the europeans in swordmaking, that's why nobunaga was obsessed with western weaponry and armor.

>>155763059
They are better at cutting than a traditional longsword, and the blade it's pretty thick in the spine, so it will not bend out of shape during normal circumstances.

You could argue that something like a falchion is better, but then again, they are different weapons designed over different circumstances.

>>155763663
And then everyone hated him for being better than them.

If they had allowed him to rule, Japan might not have gotten curbstomped at WWII. Consequences.

>>155753373
People have seen it over a million times. /a/ is autistic, but not enough to be butthurt for 10 years.

But how can you fold a sword over 1000 times? You can't even fold paper more than seven.

>>155763733
It's not any better at cutting than a standard curved blade, and the thick spine is actually detrimental to its chopping performance.
If you overswung and hit a tree or something, your blade is fucked. It cannot survive true battlefiend conditions, which is the reason it was a secondary weapon while bows and spears did most of the killing.

>>155764068
>it was a very bad weapon, it was so bad for fighting, you literally couldn't even hit sticks, so bad no one even used it, and it didn't even appear in the medieval japanese culture unlike the knight's sword in west, also they used other weapons for this reason like lances which used the same steel for the blade but it's okay, they still used it

>>155764305
You aren't swinging a spear around by necessity. The katana is simply a bad weapon when compared to its contemporaries.

>>155764462
>they literally had a spear with curved blade to swing around and cut the enemy
Okay brah, you did well. Now stop posting.

>>155764305
yeah, why the fuck wouldn't you bring a knife to a gun fight?

>>155764068
>standard curved blade
There is no such thing, something like a falchion maybe, but there were a lot of curved swords that aren't particularly better overall, and there's no standard either.

>And the thick spine is actually detrimental to its chopping performance.
If you overswung and hit a tree or something, your blade is fucked
I don't think this is true at all, i would require a lot of force against a small target, just like in the webm

>which is the reason it was a secondary weapon while bows and spears did most of the killing.
The same happened with traditional swords, a spear would always be superior in the battlefield.

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>>155758396

>>155760745
It's not, it was used only in German judicial duels where you could only bring a sword but were allowed to wear amor, so naturally everybody brought a "sword" and used it as a mace.

>>155760745
Are you dumb? Mordeschlag was a legitimate technique that was fine to use as long as you wore armored gauntlets. Besides, swords have strong edges. They're not blunt, but they're not razor sharp either. They're meant to pierce with the tip and hack with the last foot of the blade. A razor edge would blunt way too quickly. The usage of mordeschlag was to help overcome the entire concept of hitting an armored target anyways. If you didn't have a mace or blunt weapon, you had the hilt and pommel of your sword.

>>155763838
Japanese swordsmiths borrowed forbidden techniques from origami to fold steel more times than any mere european could ever hope to comprehend.

>>155764858
All you need to do to seriously damage the blade of a katana is bacially apply more force than the brittle steel edge can handle. Twisting a sword out of a tree or even embedding it in there in the first place is hard on modern steel swords, much less ones without a fully steel construction.

>>155764662
Dumb weaboo scum.

>>155763838
Well, first, metal is not paper: you can melt it

Second: it's just a stupid mix between "folded" and "layers" that makes people think a blacksmith would actually fold a metal bar one fucking thousand times, which is obviously bullshit. Here is how it works to produce a steel bar from an iron bar:

- let's start with a single metal bar
- put some carbon on it
- fold it once
- the bar is now folded into 2 iron layers, separated by a layer of carbon
- folded this 2 layers bar a 2nd time
- you have know 2x2=4 iron layers, separated by carbon layers
- fold it a 3rd time
- 2x4=8 layers
- 4th time
- 2x8=16 layers
- repeat
- 32 layers
- 64 layers
- 128 layers
- 256 layers
- 512 layers
- 1024 layers

here we go: by folding the initial bar 10 times, you get a steel bar with more than 1000 layers
that's where the myth of "folded a thousand times comes"

European blacksmiths had good quality iron at hand, so they didn't need to fold their iron more than 6 or 7 times.
Japanese blacksmiths had shit iron, so they had to fold it a bit more, like 3 or 4 more, to put more carbon in it and increase its quality, but of course they never folded it one fucking thousand times.

look at this anon video with its "folded 1 million times" bar, that's the exact process >>155759903

>>155768968
>produce a steel bar from an iron bar
Why make it from iron? Can't you just mine steel?

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>>155768968
That makes is sound way less impressive.
Why can't reality be as cool as my chinese animes?

>>155769111
in fact, they should just mine XC75 steel directly in XC75 quarries, that would be much easier

>>155758067

manga?

>>155769281
anime?

>>155764068
You don't chop with a katana to begin with.

>>155766806
>as long as you wore armored gauntlets
You don't even need gauntlets. The sword isn't going to cut you at all if you grip it properly.

>>155750763
Honestly, what makes this scene isn't the katana sawing through the longsword. It's the stupid fucking look on her face when it happens.

>>155770027
This is true.

t. HEMAfag with a bastard sword

>>155759033
>>155761784
European swords weren't even main battle weapons. I bet you fell for the halfswording meme too.

>>155769814
Then what? You focus your ki on the katana and throw energy blasts?

>>155770160
tfw longswordfag
1v1 to the death fight me

>>155770203
I meant you don't swing it in a chopping motion like swinging an axe, thats basically just forcing the edge into the object like a wedge. You swing it in a way that draws the edge against the surface at an angle. This takes advantage of its curved edge. Swinging it directly at something is a fast way to blunt and break it.

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>>155758067
>>155758151
Reminder that this motherfucker beats a speedy katana-wielding female protagonist while wearing a suit of heavy armor and wielding an axe, in a setting where swords have the advantage over axes, and then proceeds to marry and impregnate her.

Not anime/manga though.

>>155770160
>HIMAfag
fuck off skall

>>155751169
delet this

>>155763298
Wrong.

See >>155760285 and >>155762736.

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>>155766419
These judicial duels were most often fought with spear, longsword and dagger (e.g. as described by Hans Sax in his poem on the origin of martial arts) and using the sword as a mace was just one technique among many rather than the norm. For the most part people would use their longsword in a half-sword fashion where the blade would be grabbed with one hand and used like a short spear.

>>155763007
>the iron in japan was just as good
sorry m8 sandy dredged river iron is inferior to even bog iron

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>>155770535
Yes, because none of us have played fucking Fire Emblem. Hector is just a beast, and few lords since have been able to match him in terms of being a sheer motherfucker.
My favorite little secret badass in the series is Nephenee though. Adorable, sexy hick who happens to become un fucking stoppable with a spear with a little diligence in leveling, sign me up.

>>155754683
boko nu guugle it u fgt

>>155769281
Reincarnation no Kaben, chapter 19.

It doesn't have anime adaptation though.

>>155761784
>But more often times they where used like edged blunt weapons and made to be decently sturdy able to clash against metal and not fall apart.
I've yet to see solid evidence for this. Swords are pretty poor blunt weapons. Just look at Battle of the Nations or other kinds of re-enactment and you'll see that a sword does absolutely nothing against armour - blunt or not.
If you want to hurt a man wearing armour you don't try to hit him with the edge. You need to pierce the sword in-between his defences or hit him with the pommel or something.
A non-sharp sword makes no sense - unless we're talking about something like an estoc, which is more of a spike though and wouldn't be used for being hit blade against armour either.

>>155750763
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=be/Pi7zLSqLpMI

>>155750763
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pi7zLSqLpMI

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>katanafags
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZRJDOsdFOtI&t=4s

>>155770160
fuck off fat neckbeard

>>155753373
Its old bruh

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The closest thing IRL to the "katana's can cut anything" meme would probably be Aztec weapons, actually.

Aztecs and other mesoamerican cultures used obsidian for most of their edged weapons, which is a type of volcanic glass which can be knapped to have absurdly fine edges, nearly or actually mono-molecular. You'd, in theory, literally be able to cut between skin cells.

Of course, being a type of glass, it's also pretty brittle, so they'd be prone to breaking more. Nontheless, conquistador accounts all have them remarking that they were scared shitless by how effective aztec macuahuitl's were (which were basically giant wooden clubs shaped like cricket bats that had their edges studded with obsidian razors, so you had both a huge amount of blunt force being focused on the super fine obisdian edges, which also causes a sawing effect), and two separate first hand accounts from them corroborate that at least once one beheaded a horse in a single swing.

>>155772136
This guy is ironically living the dream

>>155772479
If the Aztec had followed bushido with complete yamato damashii, they wouldn't have been driven to extinction.

>>155750763
>>155751169
Even if you post this a million times katana is still superior
#kanataforlife

>>155772136
Nice try, Jaado-sama is based.

>>155772309
Lol butthurt katanafaggot.

Let's have a spar(no not to the death tard) with our chosen weapons and armor.

Also, I bet I'm substantially skinnier than you.

>>155770630
I wish I were as cool as Skallagrim. That's a man right there.

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>>155773242
Can I choose this?

>>155773317
Only if I can choose an AH-64 Apache

>>155773414
Do you know how to fly one?

>>155773317
Actually, I'm just gonna go ahead and escalate fully to Trident missiles.

>>155773451
I'll get the hang of it.

>>155773242
I would spar with you, but if there's no way you would survive. Even a bokken is sharper than the highest quality European "swords."
It simply wouldn't be fair. With a single use of iaijutsu, I would end the fight before you could even lift that brittle little crowbar of yours.

Not the guy you responded to, in reality I'd love the chance to spar against somebody with a bastard or longsword. I've had a blast in my sparring so far, but my partner only uses a rapier so it gets kind of samey.

>>155773414
>implying you know how to operate an apache

>>155772479
holy fuck i thought this was a meme picture but its legit. That's really cool

>>155773502
It's actually quite fun to use all sorts.

I have used a katana too, and God damn was it unwieldy... Weighted very strangly...

>>155773242
I'm not a katanafag, but i've seen some of those HEMA schools and they're the cringiest shit ever.
Also it doesn't help that most of the people spewing bullshit come from that community.

>>155772479
How expensive would it be to make one of those weapons so I can go around cutting shit and pretending to be in an animu?

>>155773623
It really depends on the katana, and just like longswords the price makes a big difference. I mix between katana and longsword in my sparring. It's a real shame that kendo is mostly useless, and kenjutsu(basically the HEMA of katana) isn't having a resurgence like HEMA is.

>>155771532

I hardly remember half the evolution of medieval weapons from when I actually cared about it, but I remember swords being almost a footnote. Spears and their varients where fucking everywhere, and it all ends with Greatswords.

Swing it wide to break spears. Swing it to batter shields. Swing it to crumple armor, and possible kill, or stab. Greatsword beats everything except ranger faggots.

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>>155761543

>>155753373
Welp guess it was after all.

>>155759120
underrated post

>>155771532
Why use a pommel when you can use a mace?

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>>155773928
>I hardly remember half the evolution of medieval weapons from when I actually cared about it, but I remember swords being almost a footnote.
You should consider that war is but one side of the medal. Swords were most of all weapons of peace. The type of weapon you could carry by your side in civilian life and defend your life with in self-defence and duel type of situations. But in warfare too - even if you're a knight on horseback with a lance and a war hammer tied to the saddle, even if you're a pikeman, a crossbowman, an arquebusier, etc. - you will almost certainly have some kind of sword by your side, for that time when you might end up dismounted, entangled in close combat, ambushed, etc. This intimate familiarity people had with swords resulted in their unique status.

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>>155774367
If we're talking about the judicial duel: because that may not be up to you to choose.

If we're talking about battlefield use: you might have both. As a knight there's nothing to keep you from having a mace at your saddle and a sword by your side while still having a lance as primary weapon. It should be considered however that maces are rather specialised. A sword is lighter at greater length, is exceedingly good at dealing with non-armoured opponents while still somewhat okay-ish against an armoured man if it's pointy enough (and there's the possibility to use it as a make-shift mace if the opportunity arises). This is all guesswork though, it just seems that people generally used pole-arms as primary weapons and swords as secondary weapons. Maces and war hammers were definitely used, but they were mostly a cavalry side-arm thing.

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>>155758067
>>155758151

>>155774851
I'd think that the fictional dramatization of swords comes from dueling culture specifically. As you said they were weapons most common during peace, and peaceful people are the ones that get to enjoy fictional dramas. As a weapon of peacetime, swords would become something that people who consume fiction could relate to in stories full of battle.

It's very similar to how people love handguns in action even though handguns are rarely anything other than a last resort in an actual serious combat scenario.

>>155759456
it's like an archeological find. so many old reaction images layered on each other in that one place.

>>155759456
Probably wasn't the same one. This >>155759093 looks like a newer one with more reactions edited in.

Archivefag here. Here's one of the old threads from before Foolz died
https://foolz.fireden.net/a/thread/107792548/

>>155775444
What the shit some of those aren't even European

also checked

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>>155773794
Probably not very? it's just a wooden club with pieces of sharpened obisdian stuck to the edges.

I'm sure flint knapping websites/fourms and sites that focus on making arrowheads and stuff would be able to help you. This guy seems to know what he's doing as well:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oqtxDz5tW6k

>>155775039
Right, that was largely the "footnote" I was describing. Either carried as a backup weapon or mostly civilian use. I think there were a couple of exceptions in some cultures. (Didn't the middle east use those odd Gauntlet/Swords that were designed exclusively for back-to-back paired fighting that were apparently super devastating?)

Then there's other random shit that likes to pop up in fantasy games from time to time, like the horribly impractical Lantern Shield. I had someone try to convince me "they used them in battle all the time. The light from the lanterns reflected off the metal and blinded the enemies."