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>If it's popular then it must be bad

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>If it's popular then it must be bad
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>>155747955
Not really. Vagabond is popular, yet it's not bad. Meanwhile AoT and BnHA are plain garbage now.
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>>155747955
You should know one main rule on /a/. That is that /a/ only ever talks about bad anime or the sometimes amazing anime.
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There have been plenty of series which /a/ has enjoyed at the height of popularity, but you know what /a/ always thinks is bad? When a series is popular enough to attract crossboarders, shitposters, and waifufags that shit up generals constantly or start fanbase wars.
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>>155747955
Welcome to 4chan
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>>155747955
Code Geese doesn't really belong on that list
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>>155747980
>Vagabond is popular

How many front page threads does Vagabond have right now?
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>>155747955
Nothing wrong with being a hipster though. You could avoid watching garbage and wasting your time.
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>>155747955
>Mai Hime
vindicated no one is talking shit about it anymore
>Diebuster
Let's face it, it was doomed to be compared to Gunbuster
>Death Note
only post-Ladies
>Code Geass
they like it because of its flaws
>Clannad
vindicated
>FMP
nope
>FMA
only people who don't like brotherhood are 03fags between them not really
>Haruhi
vindicated
>PSG
vindicated
>Seed
no one likes this series anymore, it's not even an /a/ problem

so only FLCL, Diebuster, TTGL, E7, Gatari, Raildex, and Madoka should be kept on the list
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>>155747996
>crossboarders, shitposters, and waifufags
Bingo. These three are signs that a show is getting too big for its britches and it never ends well.
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>>155747996
What's wron with waifufags?
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>>155748140
>Gatari
>Index
>good
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>people enjoy shows when they're airing and enjoy new things when the next season starts
nice detective work, what address should we send your nobel prize to?
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>>155748214
He never implied that though. Just that it's still relevant.
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>>155747987
Actually quality is irrelevant to discussion. How much /a/ talks about an anime depending on how memeic it is.

Even old anime like LoGH and Eva can be talked about because of its high meme capacity.
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>>155747996
>crossboarders, shitposters, and waifufags

Fucking this. Theres a point where you enjoy a show but swear off the threads altogether because they're fucking cancer.
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>>155748214
which is why it needs to stay on the chart.
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wow, people still use the word "hipster" unironically
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>>155747955
>>155748140
Is FLCL even considered popular
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>>155747996
Pretty much this, to be honest.
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>>155748252
chose 1
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>>155747955

It's always been my taste>your taste. I don't give a fuck of some autist making up some retarded charts
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>>155747955
They were all shit to begin with. They deserve the criticism.
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>>155748254
and people will keep using it until hipsters go away

>"people are still" argument
pretty much how we can tell your a hipster
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>>155748194
>what's wrong with people who only care about one character and kill any discussion about the show to meme about their girl
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>>155748194
They end up setting up waifu generals, not to mention waifu wars, that never end and have a tendency to blogpost about their romantic life once they get too comfortable.
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>>155748336
You have yourself to blame if you allow a small group amount of people dominating the threads and did nothing about it.
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>>155748336
>>155748378
How about you stop watching moeshit for once?
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>>155747996
Problem is oldfags who cant accept change and DEMAND things to go their way now and always.
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>>155748437
Thats not even the worst culprit.

Look at SnK threads. Even if I did enjoy it (once), I would never admit to it and certainly never involve myself with it.
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>>155748388
How the fuck are you supposed to remove people from shitting up a thread if you're not mods
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>>155748437
>How about you stop watching moeshit for once?
not that guy, but the only reason i watch anime is for its cuteness and moe appeal
i've tried looking into other "cool" animes, but i just cringed and dropped every single one of them
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>>155748437
>implying this happens only to Moeshit

It's literally every genre to an extent
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>>155747996
>/a/ always thinks is bad?
>WE
>Muh sekrit club
Fuck off
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>>155747996
Solid fact right here.
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>>155748655
If you start a discussion about the show and be persistent as the waifufags then the threads will turn for the better. Or you just wait for the day the anime airs.
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>>155748757
Wait, another thing people don't get.
Ignore them.
But, there's usually a group of them, so that's easier said than done.
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http://www.strawpoll.me/12723964
I'm genuinely curious.
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Because after a while people stop wanting to discuss it and the only people left over are the vocal minority.
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>>155747955
Stuff that gets translated and becomes available to secondaries who can't read Japanese also becomes bad.
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>>155748747
>>Muh sekrit club
Spotted the uppity newfag. Assimilate or fuck off.
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>>155747955
Seed's popularity drops over time because the show mostly just goes down the toilet about the halfway point.
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>>155749338
north kore/a/
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>>155748219
Nice deduction my fellow anon
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>It's mobage, so it must be shit!
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I don't remember that many disliking E7 after 15 weeks. Could you give some examples?
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>>155749709
Note that E7 also had just got off its feet after the first cour.
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>>155747955
Then explain /a/ fascination with Steins;Gay
Cause that is one steaming pile of a shit VN as well as anime
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>>155747955
/a/ really fell off after E7 huh
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Characterfaggotry is cancer. Look at Saekano (waifufags) and SnK (fujoshits and shippers) threads, threads are full of posts about metashit like EH, LH, EM, etcfags, Eririfags, Utahafags, niggers,etc.
This is biggest cancer.
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>>155749907
HOLY SHIT, range ban ended
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>>155747955
Let's see, Bamboo Leaf Rhapsody was the eighth episode of the 2009 airing, and Endless Eight started with the twelfth episode, so I'd say this is about right for Haruhi.
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>>155747955
Like half of those series are still praised by /a/. The only ones really belonging there being: Death Note, which became shit after L died. Clannad, which was shit because they tried stacking on more tragedy for shock value. Gundam Seed has just been on a decline overall lately.

The only real victims of hating it because its popular are Shingeki No Kyojin, which isn't even on the list, and Madoka.
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I don't think FLCL is "popular" many of my normie friends haven't seen any of that shit. They only really watch new stuff like Attack on Titan, or One punch man, etc., they don't watch old things that were popular, only new things that are popular.
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>>155747955
I don't see what's wrong with wanting to have something you enjoy with a specific group of people and wanting to keep it away from all the other faggots in the world.
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>>155750015
Disappearance did redeem Endless Eight, so the curve should rise after like the 50th week or so.
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>>155748255
It's getting sequel so popularity rises
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>>155748750
>>155748268
>>155748246
>>155748163

That's complete bullshit though.
While it's perfectly justified to call out obvious crossboarders/newfags, the fucktards who have this unjustified paranoia about 'muh sekrit club' are the ones doing the most damage.

Just look at OPM. The spammers who were doing their best to shitpost the threads into oblivion because they didn't like the show being popular, making sane discussion impossible, were 100 times worse than any supposed 'newfag crossboarders' everyone was paranoid about.
Just look at EVERY SINGLE SHOW by Kyoani, where 50% of the poster try to have some semblance of discussion, and the other 50% are spamming MUH KYOANUS MEMES XDDD
Just look at Flip Flappers last fall, which was a perfect example of the 'hipster pattern' in action.
'MUH NEWFAGS' is mostly an excuse for brain damaged people to hate on a show that's popular and ruin everyone's enjoyment.

In conclusion, fuck off, you are more cancerous that the newfags.
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>>155747955
Add Re:Zero to that list
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>>155750081
The only people who have a problem with it are those "other faggots".
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>>155750293
Newfag.
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>>155747955
why is FLCL even on the list?
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>>155750078
This is sad, true and makes me feel old.
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>>155747955
>If it is popular you must like it.
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>>155750428
Maybe because the image is nearly a decade old
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>>155748747
>Muh sekrit club
Ultimate pleb respons.
Your actually so fucking stupid that you don't even get what the other guy actually said.
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>>155749816
grimik aqui
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>>155748093
How does that matter? /a/ isn't the place that decides what's popular. Anyone with taste has read Vagabond. It doesn't need a circlejerk to validate itself.
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>>155750059
>Madoka
But Muhdoka is the perfect example of a series that's hated to keep the threads away/in containment because they are so utterly horrible with tripfags that hating it arbitrarily or pretending to hate is the best defense.
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Immensely popular normalfag shows tend to get popular for dumb, gimmicky reasons, or they're just popular due to their own popularity. You can talk about them literally anywhere, filling /a/ with it seems pointless.
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>>155750500
>your
Shitposting on lock now.
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>>155747955
Then how come /a/ loves Evangelion?
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>>155750437
Yup, and I tried to show my friends older movies like the '95 gits and they just got bored like a third of the way though. I guess they just have shit taste.
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Seeing people try to rationalize this is entertaining.
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>>155750553
Because most of /a/ weren't even fetuses when Evangelion aired.
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>>155750412
kill yourself
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>>155750093
Imagine the hype if we got a surprise Haruhi OVA this year by KyoAni.
It would have a special stream at midnight JST on 7/7.
2chan and /a/ are wall to wall insanity for days.
Is it Snowy Mountain Syndrome? Will there be more?
Anons set up servers for all of the livestream traffic.
No one can handle it.
The stream starts.
_____________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________Kyon-kun, Denwa__________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
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>>155750293
Have you ever considered those people you mentioned may be : 1.Crossboarders (which was addressed) 2.Secondaries 3.Shitposters or falseflaggers who have nothing else better to do in their own pathetic lives ?
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>>155748194
have you ever been in the SnK general? holy fuck
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>>155750059
>Gundam Seed has just been on a decline overall lately.
>lately

...Seed ended a long time ago bro.
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>>155750652
why did you do that
it hurts
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So the trend now in /a/ is isekai shows got really popular. Will it face the same destiny?
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>>155750293
I agree with you on your analysis of the shitposting the shows got, but having /a/ be a "secret club" is a good thing.
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>>155750705
Not even isekai.
LN = shit
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>>155747955
>Mai Hime
I'll never stop loving you, no matter what /a/ says.
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>>155747955
Hardly anyone shits on Code Geass here, which is funny, considering it doesn't hold a candle to Death Note, which is thrashed constantly instead.
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>>155747955
Madoka is the clear example of why that happens.
Not only is it a fanbase that got into a fight with every other Mahou Shoujo fanbase under the sun (If it is for children it is cliche kiddy shit, if it is for otaku and old it is pedophilic shit, if it is for otaku and new it is a clone) and whose threads are so bad they became filled with tripfags, but was also overhyped to hell.
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>>155750727
oh yeah LN, it sure really popular in /a/ lately.
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>>155747996
this. fucking Kyoani crossboarders shitting on 3-gatsu because muh Shaft
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>muh cancerous fanbases
Translation: I'm such a weak-willed faggot I can't form my opinion without being positively or negatively influenced by other people, even the ones I supposedly hate.
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>>155750293
Seriously. "Let's ruin our threads so that people from other boards can't potentially ruin them." Flawless fucking logic there.
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>>155750705
Re:Zero and Konosuba ended, so until something else comes along that tops both of them in hype I would say it's already happened.
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>>155750846
>I'm such a weak-willed faggot I can't form my opinion without being positively or negatively influenced by other people, even the ones I supposedly hate.
I think you missed the point. It isn't that cancerous fanbases are the reason for their opinion of the show, but rather the reason hostility should be shown to the threads because the threads invite low quality discussion and what is the point of /a/ unless you can discuss things in a good way?
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>>155750722
it's not even a secret club,we just want it to continue being good and not be crowded with shitposters like many other boards became
this "muh secrit club" meme must die
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>>155750995
>this "muh secrit club" meme must die
Agreed. People seem to misunderstand that wanting high quality discussion and to avoid shitposters=/=secret club. They think anything that even somewhat implies exclusivity means "secret club".
I don't care it /a/ is popular. I do care if popularity brings shitposters.
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>>155750059
>The only real victims of hating it because its popular are Shingeki No Kyojin

This is the numero uno example of this. The faggots here loved the fuck out of it right up until they realized how popular it became and turned straight around and shit all over it and successfully memed the idea that it was a flat out shit series through the internet.
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>>155750774
this is why I stopped with the Madoka threads long ago,there isn't even discussion anymore,only a bunch of idiots parroting "m-muh descontruction"
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>>155751090
>The faggots here
Fuck off to /v/ with your general obsession.
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>>155748460
/a/ hasn't changed since I got here in 2004 newfag. It's probably the only board on the site to retain it's actual fucking subculture.
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>>155751219
I chuckled.
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Why the fuck did clannad become hated, it's amazing.

>forced drama

WHAT DOES THIS EVEN MEAN WHAT KIND OF DRAMA ISN'T FORCED!?!?!
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>>155751248
>laughing at your own stupidity

maturity comes in time
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>>155747996
>There are people so autistic that they spend as much time talking about crossboarders on /a/ as they do /a/
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>>155751219
That would be /jp/.
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>>155749816
(You) wanted that (You).
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>>155751253
Clannad has always rightfully been shit on.

>WHAT KIND OF DRAMA ISN'T FORCED!?!?!
Drama based around characters with actual personalities that have more substance to them than being adorable and helpless for the sake of eliciting emotion but lacking any detectable internal thought process whatsoever regardless of how little sense that makes.
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>>155751451
I agree for Clannad but AS was legit good drama
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>>155751253
Don't worry about it. It's a meme word that sounds like something that might exist, so fags invent their own personal definition and use it to shitpost any drama they didn't like. When they inevitably realize that none of them are using it the same way, it dries up real quick.
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>>155748140
>he hasn't seen any Mai Hime threads or anons still talk about the ending
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>kemono friends will never have this problem because it's impossible for the mainstream west to bandwagon it
Feels good man
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>>155751253
>Forced Drama
I actually understand this term. You could have applied this term to vidya webcomics back in their heyday. Let me better describe what this guy >>155751451 is trying to say

>Drama that is considered inorganic to a story. This is typically punctuated by a sudden and unforeshadowed development that betrays the tone of the show. For an example, CAD's abortion arc.

Of course, leave it to waifushitters, moefags and the other retards, to warp this term into
>It didn't stay SoL so it sucks.

Or whatever buzzword soup they spill into their text fields before smashing the submit button.
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>>155747955
The only one among those who really deserve to be shat on is Goddamn Shit. It makes Mari Okada looks Shakespearean. Even Bakememegatari has merits that dedicated shitposters can't deny.

The rest simply aren't airing this season and therefore no one is making thread of them.

Have a free (You).
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>>155747996
A sensible post.
>>155748246
Which is, likely, what a lot of the more reasonable fans of shows listed on that chart do.
>>155748255
Yeah, it's getting a sequel so it's gone up recently.
But it wasn't always popular even in early /a/.
>>155750722
We are only here to discuss anime, after all.
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>>155752187
>sudden and unforeshadowed development that betrays the tone of the show
There is literally nothing wrong with this.
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>>155752022
Stop reminding me
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>>155752696
I think it becomes wrong depending on how serious the show takes itself.
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>>155749858
Of course, how does a board dedicated to anime recover from the GOAT?
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>>155752808
Is it wrong in general, or did you just not like a particular tone shift?
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>>155752187
I think those moefags and retards want only the "healing" part and not the "life" part. Overcoming loss/death/emotional stresses is something you must encounter in SoL shows in general. Of course when the shows have too much drama just for the sake of having drama you know it's time to drop them.
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Maybe I'm the minority here but I can't watch CGDCT shows anymore. I'm not asking for a shakespearean drama or an insightful analysis into the woes of the modern man, but at least have a plot or something to follow that isn't some shitty retarded gimmick that is ultimately inconsequential because it's never explored and stays secondary to the cute girl portion of the story.


My real life is just too good right now for me to find pleasure in watching this kind of show anymore.
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>>155747955
add Umaru in this list
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>>155752999
>>155752808
I think it depends on how its handled.

I like the idea but often its done terribly. I think if you're going tot inject a huge amount of drama into a SoL there needs to be a lot of:

1) Subtle foreshadowing/buildup
2) Clear intention from chapter 1
3) Well written drama/character interactions

Its just really easy to fuck up if the author isn't careful.
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>>155751877
I did
years ago

nowadays when it's brought up it's because people want a sequel
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>>155747955
>4chan board is full of contranians
No shit
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>>155750293
>Just look at Flip Flappers last fall, which was a perfect example of the 'hipster pattern' in action.
But Flip Flappers wasn't even popular outside of /a/
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