○flip flappers 【全6巻】
01巻 *,883 17.01.06
02巻 *,795 17.02.02
03巻 *,786 17.03.02
04巻 *,772 17.04.04←New
Why isn't flip flappers bought?
I think that's nonsense.
No marketing. We've been over this.
Flip FLOPpers
Cuz it's shit.
>>155742271
So the show has about 700 dedicated fans. I wonder if the sales will drop hard once the 'writer change' volumes go on sale.
A lot of shows sell poorly why did this become a meme here?
>>155742347
A handful of people shilled it really hard.
>>155742347
Because there are some dedicated haters of this show on this board.
>>155742271
No maketing, not based on a popular manga/novel etc., no big names behind it.
>>155742340
There a few guys who bought multiple copies so it might be a lot less than 700.
Honestly, I didn't think this series was that good. Dialogue and characters were pretty shit.
>>155742347
Expected from first part of show:
Cool premise
Colorful animation
Promise of mystery
A fun and meaningful adventure that explores the psyche
Got:
Yuritrash
Adventures don't mean anything
Mysteries never explored
Villain turns out to be some character introduced near the end
Still a good execution in terms of animation and color
It attracted one audience, then decided to be a completely different show. If it was more obvious from the onset that it was going to be thoughtless yuritrash of the season, it would have sold well. /a/ is upset because they expected more than what they got and it all feels like a huge waste of potential.
>>155742271
Because it really wasn't that good.
>>155742271
Reminder once you filtered out normalfags with less than 5 anime watched per season Flip Flappers wasn't even close to being /a/'s AotY.
>>155742530
Well what is it then? Let's hear it.
>>155742480
It didn't help that the fans completely oversold this series. There a few fans who are absolutely delusional about the show. Pretending that the weird fanservice moments were actually incredibly deep social commentary. Pretending that the symbolism not meaning anything was actually 2deep4u three layers of inception. This show had a few good things going for it but that's mostly in the visuals and definitely not in the story telling. It's a prime example of style over substance.
>>155742480
>cockona's mom
>some character introduced near the end
ok
>>155742567
Lurk more.
>>155742480
Pretty much my feeling, except that I still enjoyed it overall despite the yuritrash and disjointed nature. After the first half or so it was definitely on a downwards course.
>>155742480
>Villain turns out to be some character introduced near the end
She was introduced in episode 1.
>Adventures don't mean anything
Except all of them are about the characters development.
So you are one of these "no plot"-faggots I heard so much of.
>>155742694
Because this series had amazing character development?
>>155742271
I bought the ost and will buy the figure when it finally releases>Medicosbut those bds are too expensive. As to "why", we've been over this many times already: no manga, no marketing.Now stop salting my wounds.
>>155742789
There are plenty of show with success with zero marketing and manga. No excuse. If you are good enough, word of mouth will ensure success.
>>155742639
Based shitposterbro
>>155742771
It did a good job.
>>155742598
Part of the charm (of the first two thirds at least) was that the visuals weren't empty style. A lot of the story-telling and setting were left up to the details in the art, which was a very welcome change from typical anime exposition.
>>155742809
It's about luck in such cases, and if you want success, you should not rely on it
>>155742863
>it's not fair, y-you just got lucky
>>155742881
Who are you quoting?
>I just wanted to have fun threads with /a/ about this anime and its Alice in Wonderland aspect
>mfw the threads got shitposted to no end because that one anti-/u/ fag is butthurt about anything /u/-related and just can't shut the fuck up and let people enjoy themselves
Some people should just jump off a building.
>>155742881
Who are you quoting?
If you have another explanation I'll hear it
>scans never
>>155742881
>>155742962
I was quoting
>>155742863
>>155742933
Come on, we had nice threads. It was just airing days that were hell.
>>155742271
shit tons of show sell like shit. So?
>>155742480
The meme only happened just at the last 2 episodes, when anons from the first 9 episodes went nuts and spamming shitton of new threads with Mimi all over it.
>>155742978
Really feeling that writer change
>>155743012
Dude, from the second half of the anime, everything started going to shit in the threads, there wasn't even need for that "really feeling that writer change" that started appearing not so long after. It's when Mimi appeared that the threads basically took a nosedive and stopped being fun.
Sure, the anime had issues (let's talk about the smears during episode when Yayaka goes flip flap) but even the second half wasn't near as terrible as people keep meme'ing here.
It's the loudest idiots in the thread that ruined people's enjoyment about a simple and effective anime original.
Last season was season of yuri
KF
YS
Gabriel
LWA
Urara
IBO
Scum's Wish
>>155742347
/u/fags would not shut up about the show when it was airing and how it was GOAT, so when it flopped there was a lot of shitposting.
>>155743151
>implying sales = good anime
>implying /a/ ever cared about sales
It's nothing but newfags and trolls.
>>155743151
It was best anime of fall.
The first 9 episodes were absolutely solid. Prove me wrong.
>>155743130
I think you are only remembering the bad parts. The threads were fine after the airing day. Friday was when proper discussion of the latest episode was happening.
>>155743208
They weren't solid. They were great, and the anime was still good beyond.
And honestly, people are forgetting that episode 4 was kinda boring.
>>155743196
>>155743200
It flopped because it was garbage. It's going to take half a decade before anyone falls for the excuse that "oh it was a problem with the writers/marketing" and funds shit like this again.
>>155743208
The second episode was annoying even though they rebounded quickly with the next few. The action began getting old by episode 8. Episode 9 had too much forced drama.
>>155743277
Episode 4 was one of my favorite episodes. Goes to show that nobody can agree about anything when it comes to this anime except that the animation is good.
>>155743383
Well, honestly, after bringing something like episode 3 out of their hats, having an episode where not so much happens right afterwards was a big risk. It doesn't help that it is followed by one of the best, if not the best, episodes, and therefore sandwiched quite uncomfortably.
>>155743491
I didn't think 3 was that amazing. Stylistically it was one of the best, but it was also one of the hardest yuri-pandering ones.
6 > 5 > 1 > 4 >> 7 > 3 > 8 > 9 > 2 >>>> the rest
Too much shit taste in the world.
>>155743552
>implying the episode of the invasion and where Cocona decides to tell the world to fuck off wasn't glorious
It was one of those anime where if you like that sort of thing it was great and memorable, but if you don't then either you didn't care about it at all or else the attention it got would piss you off because you're an Anonymous autist who can't stand other people liking what you don't. Personally I like original anime, since it can be good. Adaptions I either know about from the source material or else give up within three episodes because it's just more absolutely generic LN trash.
>>155742962
it's already been scanned bro
Preview of ep 28 when?
>>155742271
Japan has shit taste
>>155742480
Go watch your seasonal haremtrash and Kuzu no Honkai
>>155742271
Because your kind is dying yurifag
>Cockona
Yurishitters don't put their money where their mouth is
>>155744413
Taking sales numbers seriously and blaming nips is not healthy anymore. There were some really good shows that didn't sell as well; and the decline in the second half was true.
I can't expect someone watch it alone without /a/ would enjoy it equally as I did, really. Love you autistics.
>>155742271
Wait until the NA BD releases. It's probably sell pretty well here.
>>155745058
I'd have loved it regardless if I watched it with /a/ or not, and yes nips have some chronic shit taste, this is a world where shit like YoI sells 50k while shows that actually try to be original like Flip Flappers and Shin Sekai Yori sell badly
>>155745169
Well, to be honest, it's not everyday you cross an anime about ice-skating.
>>155744139
Finally, some good news!
>>155742271
I like how it just keeps selling less and less.
>>155745222
Fujo pandering trash
>>155745250
Retard
The "nips have shit taste" meme is just that, a meme. In the end whether something sells well is not inversely related to its quality like you memetards would like to believe, but more closer related to marketing and brand awareness.
Flip Flappers flopped for a number of reasons. It was an original work with no existing fanbase that needed to be marketed and pushed much more, but it had very poor marketing prior to and during the show's airing so people who weren't actively seeking it out never noticed it. It also needed to capitalize on a single profitable demographic (yes, yurifags are potentially that), but the schizophrenic and mysterious nature of the first few episodes didn't help to bring in a dedicated watchers. By making a lot of episodes about different things, it had a lot of potential to appeal to different types of people, but never went all the way with any of it, at least in the first half of the show.
>>155742347
Because of the retarded title name. If this show is named anything else people wouldn't care much about it.
>>155745169
Don't shit on YoI. It did pretty well, though I haven't finished it because of being too straight.
>>155745283
Yeah, you sure are.
You're also mad that the series is trash.
>>155745310
>It was an original work with no existing fanbase
All of the biggest names in anime are anime original.
Geass, Love Live, Madoka, Eva, etc.
The series was just bad, get over it.
>>155745343
>no u
>u just mad
You have to be at least 18 to post here, also for posting shit like this it makes it clear how intelligent you are >>155745250
>>155745310
>it had very poor marketing prior to and during the show's airing so people who weren't actively seeking it out never noticed it.
Reminds me of The Iron Giant.
>>155745395
I'm not the one who's so mad I can't even type correctly or make one word posts calling people retarded.
I can't help but laugh at how mad you are.
>>155745310
>poor marketing
This again.
Look at the second anime from the bottom. It has a negative marketing campaign and has the stigma of a failed kusoge when it aired.
>>155745343
>he thinks we care what a blue box on the internet thinks about a show we like.
>>155745422
>lol u mad
Sure, keep telling me how posterior anime volumes sell less than the first ones, you absolute genius
>>155745384
All of those had at least one of the following: strong marketing, important names attached to the show (e.g. Urobuchi, Anno), or early episodes that zoned into a specific profitable demographic and went all-out in appealing to them.
>>155745435
Kemono achieved meme status
>>155745459
You should lay off the green texting like that. It only makes you look mad.
>>155742347
It was popular and had a lot of very dedicated shitposters. "it sold poorly" was just the fuel needed to continue hounding the series long after everybody else had lost interest and moved on.
It's a show with magical girls, drama and lesbians, so of course it attracted all of the terminal autists that have been shitting in madoka threads for 7 years straight now.
>>155745435
Then it simply was not good enough that it managed to become popular through word of mouth. Does this explanation make you happier?
>>155745497
Keep crying my retarded friend
>>155745471
I mean, there are all kinds of reasons you're wrong.
But I'll just point out how tons of other anime original series to drastically better than Floppers without any of the things you listed.
>>155745531
There you go, less green text. Now all you need to do is fix how you can't type correctly.
>>155742567
There is only one answer
>>155745544
But he's not wrong about the shows you listed? They have a lot of big studios and names behind it
>>155745435
>negative marketing campaign
It had a themed cafe, a radio show, and a manga before the anime even aired. Not saying it was popular, but it was already a franchise by then.
>>155745512
>not good enough
I don't think whether something is good or not makes things sell. Just look at SAO.
>>155745571
Oh hey, it's the mad guy who can't type.
And yes, he is. That's why I pointed out how many other anime original shows sell fine.
>>155745544
>let's quote the very few anime originals that were successful and are known by everyone and their aunt to use as a proof another anime original was bad
Do you want me to tell you why you're a shitty casual that should just get off 4chan?
>>155742271
It's yurishit that tries to pretend that it has a meaningful plot. The problem is that people actually watched it to the end, and aren't interested in wasting any more time, much less money, on the product.
>>155745564
>he's still crying
>>155745590
Want me to tell you how I know you're retarded?
Because you ignored the key point in the post you're replying to.
Address why other anime original projects can sell vastly better than Flip Failures even without any of the things you listed.
>>155745589
Are you the retard who thinks it's impressive posterior volumes sell less than the first ones?
>>155745593
You realize you can't claim other people are crying when you reply to posts with single words, right?
>>155745623
>Want me to tell you how I know you're retarded?
>Because you ignored the key point in the post you're replying to.
Oh boy, where have I heard this before?
>>155745623
>ignored the key point
>Address why
Oh I see, it's you ACK. I knew something was off about your autistic way of replying.
>>155745591
>aren't interested in wasting any more time, much less money, on the product
I am. I want to support 3Hrz so that they can produce more sakuga.
>>155745644
>the retard can't even count
>>155745655
>>155745663
http://desuarchive.org/a/search/text/address%20why/
I can't help but laugh at how pathetic you are.
And how you are so mad. You are the only person who defends this shit show. You are not smart enough to tell who people are.
>ignores what's said in the post he's replying to
>gets mad when people point out he's ignoring it
I mean, really, what do you expect people to say?
>>155745718
This is the kind of person who hates Flip Flappers
>>155745688
I can count just fine. See >>155745283
You're so mad your brain is shutting down.
>>155745718
>goes to the archive for such a stupid thing
Yeah, you are definitely ACK. Any subsequent reply will be ignored.
>>155745718
>I don't like it therefore it is shit.
>>155745733
>I-I can count just fine
Sure you can, you are a smart boy, don't let anyone tell you otherwise
>>155745718
Are you still mad that Yayaka being in love with Cockona is canon?
>>155745737
>Any subsequent reply will be ignored.
>>155742271
Well it sucked for starters. Not even the yuri could improve my opinion of it.
>>155745730
>>155745737
>>155745747
>tries to use a certain phrase a proof of who someone is
>expects people not to prove him wrong by showing how common the phrase is
This is the kind of person who like Flip Floppers. You're so mad. It's hilarious. And your ghost hunting will never yield any results.
>>155745775
Now now now, let's not be overtly aggressive. He might cry.
>>155742271
I still don't understand why Madoka did so well and Flip Flappers so bad.
They are basically the same yuri bait magical girl arty wannabe show.
>>155745310
The things you describe are very similar to Madoka which sold 70k+. Magical girls , yuribait, anime original, mysterious plot etc. Madoka had a major studio backing it but many had to be convinced by word of mouth.
Do you guys think Studio 3hz's next anime, Princess Principle, will do well?
>>155743200
>best anime of fall
I don't think so senpai.
>>155745821
It's a collab project and it's being written by a complete hack so I doubt 3Hz will have much creative impact in the inevitably mediocre outcome.
>>155745767
Tell me, how is "retard" more than one word?
>>155745814
Madoka was actually good.
>>155745814
Flip Flappers was at least more inventive. Meguca was just grimshit.
>>155742271
>>155742789
I've been buying it. It's a beautiful show and I enjoyed the whole thing even if it does have some flaws. The commentary for episode 8 made me laugh. For this scene it's just
"Ketsu~"
"Ketsu."
>>155745853
What did Flip Flappers invent?
>>155745850
>Madoka
>good
>>155745853
>Flip Flappers
>inventive
Ahahahahahahahahahahahahaha. You fags are delusional. Both are shit. What the fuck is wrong with you guys?
>>155745894
Not an argument.
>>155745846
It's okay baby, go cry about someone posting crack or making unintelligent posts like this one >>155745250
>>155744868
>>155744949
>Yuru Yuri
>Madoka
>Kemono Friends just BTFO the entire industry
Get rekt yaoi fags
>>155745894
(You)
>>155745814
Madoka was a perfect storm of pre-existing fanbase appeal.
You had designs by ume-sensei, a popular mangaka that drew in the yuri fanbase in particular
You had writing by urobuchi, who was freshly famous and in the public eye after F/Z's light novel, and was drawing in both the edgy grimderp crowd, the 'I follow trendy LNs to be a cool otaku' crowd and the enormous prexisting fanbase for the then-juggernaut TM body of works.
Shaft drew in its studio regulars, who were a small but dedicated fanbase at the time because they had mostly been doing niche works, but also the massive fanbase from Bakemonogatari, which had just exploded to become one of the best-selling anime of all time and had put them squarely in the spotlight
Shinbo for the same reasons as above, but also because he directed the first season of Nanoha and there'd been long anticipation of him doing mahou shoujo again
Kajiura fresh from KnK
And aniplex marketing backing it.
It was literally impossible for madoka to fail. It could have been animated with crayons on construction paper and would have still have become a huge success.
>>155745963
>/u/fags jumping on the furry friends bandwagon just because no dude exist in it
Sad.
>>155742271
Simple: it didn't fit Nip tastes. Also, it lacked promotion.
Flip Flappers truly was too patrician for the masses.
>>155745959
What happened to you ignoring replies?
>posts shit
>gets mad when people tell him it's shit
This is what I never got. Instead of going into autistic fits of rage and spamming threads to death, have you ever once considered trying to justify your bad taste and explain why it's not bad. Because really, all you do is make yourself look even worse when you refuse to talk.
>>155745870
And god bless them for that.
>>155742480
>Mysteries never explored
This so much. What the fuck is the red door and and how does it affect peoples memories
>>155746027
You are like a broken record
>>155745577
Then let's say it failed to grip the attention of any demographic. Is that better?
>>155746069
It's the DPI we discussed a lot about it in the threads but you have to read Jung
>>155746070
Sure aren't. And really, you keep making the same mistakes and logical faults. Of course people are going to say similar things to you.
Magical Girls shows for "adults" are without fail always fucking garbage.
Pretense, pandering, shit writing and characterization.
Both Flop Floppers and Madoka are trash compared to Heartcatch Precure, a series for literal 4 year olds. Embarrassing.
It's funny you guys think it's only one person and somehow it's impossible to hate something that you like. Well, this is /a/. If you like it. Someone will hate it. Deal with it or get the fuck out.
>>155745682
>I am.
Well then, order it from Japan. Even one order seems like it will have a large impact on sales at this point. This is likely the biggest time you will have an impact like that on a show.
>>155746223
Think about it this way.
/a/ has millions of of unique IPs a year.
If everyone bought one blu ray it would have a drastic impact on the amine industry, because top end shows are like 50k.
>>155746219
>It's funny you guys think it's only one person
>If you like it. Someone will hate it
>It's funny you guys think it's only one person
I see no reason to believe otherwise.
>>155746223
Some anons ordered it, but it doesn't show up in the sales chart
>>155746290
Most of /a/ is either interested just in One Punch or whatever the K-On group is currently watching. Don't expect them to care about a niche show (good or not).
Why are you yuri faggots on this board anyway? You have your own board with your own kind. Do this shit at /u/ and if they try to shitpost you tell them to fuck off like on /a/. Why make /a/ suffer when /u/ can suffer alone?
>>155746294
I never said that only one person will hate it.
>>155746332
Refer to this image which is older than you and go back to whatever faggot forum you came from.
>>155746332
>Why are you faggots on this board anyway? You have your own board with your own kind. Do this shit at /v/ and if they try to shitpost you tell them to fuck off like on /a/. Why make /a/ suffer when /v/ can suffer alone?
>>155746316
I mean as a whole, it doesn't matter what they order.
1,000,000 more blu ray sales a year into the anime industry would be a drastic change.
Your average blu ray is around 60USD, and 60,000,000USD (6,630,780,000 Yen) is a lot.
>>155746332
Because /a/ is my homeboard, I don't browse /u/, and it'd not against the rules to post yuri here
>>155746350
You first.
>>155746350
The pic is a lie and heavily skewed and you know it.
>>155746389
Not an argument.
>>155746332
Yuri on /a/ is board culture, despite all the degenerate anons who might tell you otherwise. Get used to it.
>>155746445
DJT and sadpanda thread were also board culture.
>>155746457
Neither of those are anime
>>155746408
Yeah /a/ actually loves 3DPD, naruto, blogging and yaoi right? Gas yourself.
>>155746408
I mean, I agree that many yurifags are painfully new and don't behave well (and I hate this fact more than anything).
But yuri has always been a part of /a/. There is nothing wrong with in an of itself.
>>155746445
It isn't. Go fuck yourself. You guys are just s delusional. There's a reason /u/ was made.
>>155746464
Neither is yuri. Yuri is porn and porn goes to /h/ but /u/ exists so it goes to /u/.
>>155746477
Yes, for porn
>>155746477
/u/ was made to be the opposite of /d/.
>>155746469
It isn't board culture. It's just a very fucking vocal minority. Everyone hated you fags. Go fuck yourself.
>>155746467
Disingenuous arguments is your favorite tactic. Everyone can see through your shit faggot..
>>155742639
stop trying so hard to fit in
>>155746490
>Yuri is porn
Not all yuri is porn, really man?
>>155746500
>>155746503
Can as easily go to /h/. But they are disgusted by you guys too.
>>155746510
You're right, /a/ just fucking hates boku no pico, moe, traps, yuri, cute girls, loli and cute things. What a fucking joke of a lie image amirite redditbro?
>>155746509
http://desuarchive.org/a/search/end/2009-01-01/
That's all of 2009. The oldest archive date currently available.
Please find me avid yuri hate posts.
No one outside /a/ cares about it and here it was a loud minority posting about it all the time
>>155746549
They love everything there besides yuri. Just because there are little girls in yuri doesn't mean they like it.
>>155746477
There are /e/ and /y/ and no one is sending Yuri on Ice or Prison School threads to other boards.
/a/ now has Naruto threads and SAO threads, the quality of this board went to shit years ago, kill yourself already fucking cancer.
>>155746563
It was the second most popular show of the season
>>155746574
>that image is a lie and you know it
>a-a-a-actually just this one specific part is a lie
Pathetic. Well have fun convincing yourself you're getting raided by an evil board which is a hundred times slower than /a/ if it helps you sleep at night I guess.
>>155746557
http://desuarchive.org/a/search/text/yurifags/end/2009-01-01/
>>155746588
I thought it was the most popular? Didn't it win some poll or something?
What was first?
>>155746612
YoI was the most popular show on /a/ that season, but Flip Flop won the poll
Looking at this thread, I think we can all agree that Yuri is board culture and a staple of /a/, and that anyone who tries to argue otherwise are autistic delusional degenerates.
>>155746588
>It was the second most popular show of the season
Sales would indicate otherwise.
Unless you mean second most popular on a foreign-language imageboard with people who don't buy things, in which case, that hardly matters to anyone.
>>155746574
No. Fuck off. Yurishows have always been accepted. YKA was accepted. Mahou Shoujo with yuri themes (CCS, Utena) ARE accepted.
It's only in your fucking head that people dislike yuri.
>>155746640
Yes I was talking about /a/
>>155746611
So, your evidence that everyone hates yuri is that out of the ~8,000,000 posts that happened in 2009 231 of them say the word "yurifag", and bare in mind, not even all the posts there that say yurifag are against them.
Pretty legit, dude. Some solid evidence you got there.
>>155746639
>[delusion intensifies]
>>155746563
Flip Flappers was /a/ AOTS
>>155746677
You can also search more if you want. That's just searching for a specific post for yurifags.
Posts: 187
IPs: 56
Hmm.
>>155746705
Fat Coco butt
>nips keep saying yurishit is just adolescence
How can I enjoy "yurishit" like the nips do if the western fans keep missing that point every single time and keep shipping them and trying to meme the yuri to be the real thing?
>>155746726
Nips are the ones producing yuri content, you tell me
>>155746717
I don't have to search, I was actually here back then, unlike you.
I know that there are no posts there that support your claim. But I can't search for something that doesn't exist. So, it's up to you to try and find the posts that prove you're right.
>>155746729
That pose must be really uncomfortable.
>>155746726
>>nips keep saying yurishit is just adolescence
Show me one nip other than Yamada that said this.
>>155746773
QUALITY butt?
>>155746763
If you were actually here back than you should know that you are full of shit. I won't need to tell you what to search if you were really here. Go back to /u/ you fucking cuck faggot.
>>155746763
>that moment when ACK and anti-/u/ shitter are fighting
>that moment when I've been on ACK's side regarding yuri acceptance on /a/
>>155746841
You have to go back.
>>155746726
IBO just ended with a lesbian marriage.
>>155742271SALT
>>155746841
It sure is a good thing your boogieman doesn't exist.
By the way, you're the newfag yuri cancer that needs to leave, because you make actual yuri fans look bad.
>>155746868
IBO?
>>155746824
Your point means nothing. People say "-shit" all the time and it doesn't mean anything, just like do with "~fag". We used to (and still) call fujoshi as "fujoshit" but openly shows liked by fujos for their shipping potential (Kekkai Sensen, Yuri on Ice) are accepted, and fujoshi are recently said to be the saviors of anime on stalker threads.
>>155746901
I get it, you're a bit tsundere in your head. Can't you just lay down your guns for now?
>>155746868
No it didn't. It ended with two girls worshiping a dead cock for the rest of their lives.
>>155746924
Gundam: Iron Blood Orphans.
>>155746951
I was actually making fun of it only having one result
>>155746924
Gundam Iron Blooded Orphans (Tekketsu no Orphans)
>>155746868
Are you trying to say that one canon gay marriage in an anime would invalidate that phrase?
>>155746951
Not until you stop ruining every single yuri thread and constantly meta posting.
>>155747009
Funny because that's what (You) do all the time, you delusional spammer.
>>155742271
It's the studio, 3hz is a relatively new studio and has made only 2 mediocre anime before Flip Flap so far.
3Hz is like PA works or JC staff, no matter what they do, it will flop.
>>155747026
You have no idea who I am. You have no idea who anyone is. And all the times you try to give "proof" it's flat out wrong. Plus, it's obvious who you are, because whenever you're told to explain yourself, you always refuse.
I also never meta post. You were the one who started screaming about boogiemen. Not me.
>>155747063
Don't attribute the failure of a show to a studio. A honestly good show will sell no matter what the studio is.
>yurifags always get shitposted
>yaoifags, lolifags, incestfags and even waifufags are never shitposted this much
Really makes me think desu.
>>155747086
>never get shitposted this much
Get out from your bubble anon.
>>155746773
I still have never seen a good argument of why this character and her design was necessary. There was literally no point to this character.
>>155747086
We have dedicated hater autists, I personally don't like yaoi but I don't make it the mission of my life to go shitpost their threads, it makes it easier to autistically shitpost about something when everyone is anonymous
>>155742271
Because there was literally no advertisement for the show? If you want people to watch and buy your shit then let them know it exists for starters.
>>155742347
The first 9 episodes were good and the people in the threads were generally having fun despite shitposters throwing fits here and there.
When it turned out the last 4 episodes were on the weaker side and rushed due to production issues or whatever, all the shitposters from anti-yurifags to people just wanting to stir shit up came out in droves.
Then the sales numbers were released and the usual /v/ crowd/salesfags/studiofags joined in on the shitposting.
>>155747124
I don't know where you newfags got the idea that /a/ likes /pol/ or any crossboarders in general but you really need to go back.
>>155747063
>PA Works
Outside of grosslip and that shitty trans hibikek, all their anime can be considered a success.
JC staff also have tons of LNshit that are considered success too.
>>155747179
>I bring out /pol/ for no reason
>I keep calling people /pol/tards for liking a show
kys
>>155747279
>no reason
Want to know how I know you're a colossal newfag who's only accustomed to /pol/ posting behavior?
>>155747317
Why do you bring other boards to the discussion?
>>155745244
HOWWW
>>155747365
Because it's good form to tell crossboarders to fuck off when you see them.
>>155742271
Yuri a shit.
>>155745894
>>Madoka
>>good
Madoka is the best of it's genre.
>>155742271
>883
What do you mean? It saved the industry.
>>155747445
By that I hope you mean "grimdark mahou shoujo" genre because CCS is the best mahou shoujo overall.
>>155747445
It's shit and its threads deserve what happening to them.
>>155747396
>everything I don't like is /pol/
>>>/out/
>>155747179
>you need to go back
>calls other people /pol/
>>155747513
You're pretty obviously a /pol/tard though, and a newfag /pol/tard at that. Reminds me of when /q/shitters were pretending to be /a/ oldfags while wanting to change the board.
>>155747445
Hahahahahahahahahahahaha. There's actually nothing redeeming about Madoka. The story is shit, the characters except Homu is literally idiotic and the themes are baby tier. The only thing it got is the shock value which is basically gone by now.
>>155747549
>those string of words are trademarked by /pol/
Oh look another /pol/brony who thinks /pol/ is the center of the universe.
>>155742271
combination of being too deep, too moe, and too seasonal and too unknown
>>155747602
>too deep
The only thing that's deep is the the delusion you are trapping yourself in. It's just okay at best.
>>155747557
Stop bringing /pol/ fucking autist.
>>155747666
If you stopped defending it I'd stop having to attack it. Alternatively you could fuck off back there and it's win-win.
>>155747636
try harder
Do you think he liked the card?
>>155747712
Probably didn't even look at it.
>>155747712
He said he did.
>>155747711
I don't need to. You wouldn't even understand what I'm saying if I go to deep into this subject matter.
>>155747636
Every world in Flip Flapper was complex and artistic.
You should know there's a point when contrarianism makes you look like an edgy retard.
>>155747586
>reaches
>gets mad when someone else reaches
The delusion revisionism in this thread are ridiculous.
>/a/ never liked yuri!
>/u/ was made to cointain the cancer, it doesn't belong here and never has!
>w-well, even if it used to be board culture doesn't mean it still in [and who decides that I wonder], look at DJT and sadpanda!
If you don't like it here you're kindly invited to fuck off.
>>155747755
I've seen deeper things in a cartoon on youtube.
>>155747791
Not gonna happen any time soon.
>>155747768
The difference is I'm providing logical refutations while you're just spamming "WAAH STOP HATING /pol/ ALSO I'M NOT /pol/ BUT FUCK OFF BACK TO TUMBLR YOU ANTI-/pol/ SHIT!"
Completely transparent and embarrassing.
>>155747791
Keep thinking that anon. Maybe someday it'll be true.
>>155747819
>two posts
>spamming
>>155747791
Fuck off
>>155747729
source?
>>155747819
Anon would you quit it, even the anti yurifags stopped shitposting.
>>155747743
try harder
I don't like an anime unless it panders completely to me. Yuri doesn't therefore it is a scum that must be purged from this planet.
>>155747819
Lol, /pol/-paranoid retard, subhumans like you ruined /sci/.
>>155747864
That's because he got banned in the big deletion earlier. Or maybe I'm just keeping them busy talking about /pol/ intstead of anti yuri, who knows.
>>155747819
And he showed his true colors.
>>155747907
>lol
>subhumans
"You have to go back"
>>155747907
And newfag cancer like you are in the process of ruining /a/. Please tell me more about how great /pol/ is and definitely incapable of shitposting on /a/ and thus not deserving of derision.
>>155747941
What true colors though? Explain to this non crossboarder.
I like this thread better when it was complaining about flip flappers and yuri.
>>155748059
Shh it's over now, let it die now that the shitposters got banned and everyone else left.
>>155748059
I miss when we could actually have threads about this show.
>>155742347
salescrossies
>>155748121
No post is deleted though. Unless this is how you cope with people not liking things you like.
>>155748172
Refresh your page or use the archive if you just came in dumb newfag.
>>155746772
There was an entire write-up for this episode that had to deal with bodily discomfort due to pubescent growth- that's why there's such a focus on body size and comparison, nothing is the same scale because the familiarity of one's child proportions is lost as growth spurts and hormones change your body at the highest rate of all stages in the human lifecycle
>>155747112
There being no point to the character was literally the point of the character. She is a living Thomasson, and a red herring
>>155748232
I pressed f5 and all posts are still here. What's your point?
>>155748350
>dumb newfag literally can only read 1/4 of a post
>/u/ fags thought they could shitpost something into being popular
>>155748380
That's just janitors aka the censorship squad of 4chan, m8. No one is getting banned.
>>155748524
The shitposting petered down after the cleanup so I'm assuming at least some ban requests were sent in.
Good anime sell, bad anime don't. Love Live and YOI are one of the best shows of all time and they did sell a lot.
>>155748585
Weak bait
>>155748606
Just stating the truth.
>>155748626
Those two must be the most pandering anime in the whole industry
>>155748585
Love Live didnt even sell because of the show. You should've use wanpiss as a better example.
>>155748665
Pretty much any other idol anime that's not imas flops though.
>>155748559
Or people got bored.
>>155748714
>bored immediately after a purge
Yeah whatever.
>>155748585
>Love Live
>one of the best shows
>>155748709
Im@s and Love Live are all holding all anime idol fans
What a shit thread
>>155748731
You act like this shit won't happen again.
>>155748826
>mods will never ban anyone again
Where exactly did I imply that? You sound like you're just mindlessly spewing rubbish in desperation at this point so no more replies for you.
>>155748826
As long as proxies exist, they'll always find their way back. You can't cure autism.
>>155748696
You're wrong. Love Live wasn't THAT popular before the anime. It picked up during the airing.
>>155748913
Proxies are blocked here, anon.
>>155747819
kys
If flip flappers is sold in the United States.
Please buy it for me by all means.
>>155749980
>buy it for me
What's in it for us if we do?
I'm not sure how 3hz makes money at all.
>>155751036
The way Flifla's licensing stuff was set up, 3Hz basically gets nothing from BD/merch sales, but was paid up front to create the show. They made their money by scoring the contract to produce an original for Infinite, and Infinite apparently didn't care all that much about actually selling that original so I don't even know what the whole point was. Maybe they intended Flifla to be a prestige production from the beginning; something they can use to show what they're capable of to future business partners. That might explain why they chose a new studio, first-time director and so on.
It seems to have worked out for 3Hz though, because they're already on track to produce another high-profile original for the summer.
>>155742347
Because /a/ is full of crossboarding /v/tards who consider sales as quality indicator.
Where the fuck are all the doujins
>>155752629
We finally got one scanned and translated the other day.
The fucking retard ruins another thread
https://desuarchive.org/a/thread/144673020/#144727234
>>155752818
As much as I love ayane it's still only one doujin. There is so much potential
>>155752629
Not a lot of room for doujins with 3 characters.
>>155752968
To be fair, Flifla aired at that awkward time where there wasn't really enough time to have a book ready for winter comiket unless you started around the first few episodes like Ayane did. There might be a few more for summer since the show's cult fanbase seems to have survived the change of seasons.
>>155751226
That's good, I really liked their character design and art style on Flifla and SnM.
>sales thread
>300 posts
way to go faggots. I bet this was real productive for all of you.
shame I missed all the riveting and enlightening conversation. I bet there were some good jokes too. all of /a/'s best and brightest in this shit.
>>155748585
>YOI
>one of the best shows of all time
Is this what every single Flip Flap shitposter genuinely believe?
>>155745435
What am I looking at here?
>>155742271
obligatory post
www.infinitedayo.jp/shop/work/frifra/ff012.html#
>>155744870
Underrated post.
>>155754959
Superifical shit. Hopefully sakuga fags will get the message and realize why this show flopped, while Kemono Friends, which actually has soul, is selling gangbusters.
>>155755082
Cocona's faces of complete disdain and utter contempt made me realize things about myself.
>>155755127
>3DCG
Over my dead body
>>155755208
DId you discover a new fetish?
>>155755208
Cocona's face of uneasiness made me realize things about myself. It was a really good expression and really captured the feeling of uneasiness, when everything turned into shit and your dead mother is about to take over your body.
>>155755404
Cocona is now my fetish, everything about her.
>>155755517
Me too.
>>155755517
>>155755549
Too bad she's already takenby Papika.
>>155755517
>Cocona is now my fetish
You should be ashamed, she is a school girl.
>>155755782
She is an anime
>>155742598
Flip Flappers is pretty much just white tofu.
>>155755127
But sakugafags officially like Kemono Friends.
>>155755782
It didn't stop you, despite you being old enough to be her mother, Papikana.
>>155755596
Cocona.
>>155755782
She is the most beautiful and sexual schoolgirl to ever exist.
>>155756043
9/10 older women agree
Good shows sell and this did not, you do the math
>>155756074
>9/10
Why not 10/10?
>>155756150
One testimony couldn't be trusted
>>155742480
It's not that the villain appeared late even if you don't count the foreshadowing, it's that MUH DAUGHTER is a lame trope and a stale motivation.
I'd have preferred if miKKKolash & the Asclepius Co were given more characterization instead.Also episode 5 is best episode.
>>155756388
>miKKKolash
subarashii
>>155755412
Cocona was the one who made the world dreamlike in the first few episodes. She read books and thought a lot randomly. It was quite enjoyable to feel the whole world from her perspective incompletely. Sadly, after Mimi awoke and started to protect her, Cocona's mind stopped working and the flipflap feel was gone.
>>155745169
>Wew the thing I like don't sales let blame another thing that haven't anything to do with it because It sales more.
Also Shin Sekai Yuri is adaptation of the novel.
>>155756558
I love the idea that the magical and offbeat feeling of the real world was a result of being presented through the eyes of a naive and fanciful teenager.
It makes the bait and switch PI at the end seem even more interesting because you have to consider that being a way that someone (probably Salt) actually sees the world, and probably how Cocona would come to see it if she was ever robbed of that little spark of magic that made her such a wonder.
>>155756412
Can't really blame the guy, he just didn't want to abandon the dream.
>>155742271
>Why isn't flip flappers bought?
>I think that's nonsense.
Its failure is a case study of how colorful visuals, random obscure references and a 3deep5u plot line don't work anymore. It could've been a success in the 90's when the audience then was easily impressed but MUH SAKUGAH and contrived plots, but not anymore.
>>155757155
>but
*by
>>155756388
KKK thing is the most let down thing that show have done.
>>155757192
>he doesn't like pointy hats and comfy robes
>>155756880
Ahh, sweet child of Mimi, returned to Pure Illusion
An amorphous curse, an amorphous sea;
Accepting every Umwelt there is and can be.
>>155742480
>Got:
>Yuritrash
Anon if you didn't expect yuri subtext from it the moment it was introduced not mentioning first part of the anime which was quite yuri focused between the girls you really have to be either blind or delusional.
If anything instead of yuritrash you got heterotrash later with the whole deal of Cocona mother and the poor daddy issue and then hooking up episodes.
So for me it's a bit different, I expected yuri and I got parents hetero romance shown instead which bored me.
>>155757376
>the poor daddy issue
The what?
>Flip Flappers threads will never reach bump limit again
>>155759293
Did you really have to do that?
>>155759293
This wasn't even a flifla thread, it was just a sales shitposting thread.
>>155742271
Yurishit deserves to flop forevermore.
>>155759293
Please don't do it like some other shows unless you have something fun or some news to share. I just can't stop caring about it when there's a flipflapper thread on the board.
>>155759293
Not with that attitude
>>155760977
You fucker.
>>155761088
I've got bd v4.
>>155757155
Truly, the shandification of the anime industry.
>>155761979
And yet nobody has bothered to put subs into vol. 3 yet
>>155754233
This shop is not included in oricon stats.
>>155762093
I'm trying to come up with an algorithm to automatically find the new time code by minimizing the edit distance between TV and bd but I found it's even harder than DNA sequencing.
>>155762193
Isn't that what this was for?
https://github.com/tp7/Sushi
>>155742271
shit's boring yo
>>155742567
Once you filtered everyone out there were 4 anons left: 2 for Rakugo, 1 for whatever kyoanus show taht season (Hibike S2?), and I don't even remember the last one.
Flip Flappers is a great anime!
>/a/ hates Flip Flappers now and aggressively shitposts it off the board
Good. Better that than the fate of Madoka threads.
>>155763354
>hate Flip Flappers
>love the shameless Madoka ripoff that was Yucky Tuna
I'll never understand this shit board.
>>155755782
>>155756043
Cocona is perfection!
Why is there so much writing in thread?
I can't understand.
>>155763495
YuYuYu has an LN tie-in.
/a/ has a very, very, alarmingly large population of SEA LNfags who obsess over that shit to an unfathomable degree. They don't have any standards. They barely speak english. Any and all LNs are 'good enough' for their appalling lack of taste.
Like dragonball or popular SJ manga, they aren't /a/ regulars and ONLY come here to discuss the LNs that they're following and only want to post in the threads for those LNs, which they use as a combination of discord chatroom and traditional fansite forum (like the ones common to their native language). There aren't actually that many YuYuYufags, but it gets a general forced on the board because it serves as a refugee camp for those 'people,' who don't come to /a/ for any other reason anyways. Those folk rarely if ever watch any anime that doesn't have an associated LN, so they probably never even saw madoka to recognize what a tasteless and uncreative imitation YuYuYu was
Most of the board overlooked the show while it was airing because it wasn't worth paying attention to. It gathered a bit of attention near the end when the shitty twists started happening because it aired during a slow season and people wanted something to shitstorm over. It would have died and been forgotten then, with its shitty copout ending, were it not for the above group forcing it because they want to circlejerk their bad LN spinoff.
>>155742271
First 6 episodes were great and then it went to awful shit that made me cancel my pre-order.
>>155762751
I was working on a frame to frame mapping algorithm because Flip flap's BD release has a lot of minor frame editing in the middle. A single offset won't work.
>>155763931
Post your cancellation email or it never happened.
I enjoyed it
>>155763721
I know her nice body is supposed to be on display here, but I can't get enough of her expression here. Those earnest, unguarded eyes and slight smile just seem so special.
Cocona is a treasure.
>>155763923
Joke's on you I like both.
>>155764032
Honestly the only worthwhile opinion in this thread
Cute girls doing psychosexually gay things is its own justification.
>>155763354
It's just one autistic retard and not only here, he is constantly shitting up Dragon Maid threads, LWA, Madoka, Symphogear and any thread about anime with pure females cast, he claimed he was a muslim migrant in a Kemono Friends thread, which he also tried to shit up.
https://desuarchive.org/a/thread/155654711/#155662283
https://desuarchive.org/a/thread/155637327/#155660942
https://desuarchive.org/a/thread/155742990/#155742990
https://desuarchive.org/a/thread/155749773/#155750202
https://desuarchive.org/a/thread/152137173/#152137363
https://desuarchive.org/a/thread/152092009/#152094275
https://desuarchive.org/a/thread/144673020/#144727154
https://desuarchive.org/a/thread/155742271/#155747819
https://desuarchive.org/a/thread/155030774/#155037150
https://desuarchive.org/a/thread/155625001
The art was good everything else was bad
happens errytime
>>155764007
Okay, but I'm not sure what's so hard to believe about canceling orders on amazon since it's easy as fuck.
>>155745435
>the most sutema'd show in years
>no marketing
Don't make me laugh.
>>155742271
how many copies did you buy?
>>155764910
One of each. 4 hasn't arrived yet. Also I'm buying through a forwarder, so they are included in Oricon numbers.
>>155743315
Found the newfag
>>155765040
>all that damage on the vol.2 box
What the hell?
>>155764330
>Mudslime sandnigger
>>155765345
Looks like shrink wrap, I hope.
>>155765040
How much did this cost?
>>155764255
Thanks Annon
It is spring
I think OVA is produced.
>>155769582
I bet you were the same faggot with a producer dad who told us the ending was Peter Pan.
Hmm
>>155770600
where are the dicks?
>>155770677
You can't enter pure illusion if you have a dick.
>>155770894
What about the brother?
>>155770935
I stand by my statement.
>>155770935
What about him?
>>155765040
My v4.
>>155771010
ReinForce's encode has some banding issues.
>>155771098
Though this is taken with hq debanding filter off. I only noticed it when I used ffmpeg to dump frames for short videos.
>>155771010
Cocona looks displeased with your dirty jeans.
>>155771010
Cocona's face
>>155771010
Do you live in Japan?
>>155756880
>it's afraid
>>155745814
Madoka's second half actually delivered.
>>155764414
it reminded me a lot of kaiba. still worth watching, but disappointing
>>155763923
>/a/ has a very, very, alarmingly large population of SEA LNfags
>They barely speak english.
You're actually right. The Night of Flags was very enlightening. I mean apart from the canadian shill proxies, you see tons of Mexican and SEA flags. Indicating a less than ideal social environment.
>>155764255
Take me to Pure Illusion, anon.
doujins when
>>155773153
Mexicans, I assume, come for dragon ball and stay mostly contained to dragonball threads. There was a lot of them in LWA threads too but I can see why there would be.
>>155747172
This is the most concise and accurate reason. Good show, bad fans.
i liked this show alot but it fucking droped the ball hard last couple of episodes
>>155746069
Each Pure Illusion is based on someone's Umwelt, or the way they view the world. The red gate leads into the person's subconscious mind. In Episode 6 they happened to be in Iroha's Pure Illusion, so the gate brought them into Iroha's memories of Auntie, which Papika and Cocona are able to relive and change (whether they changed reality or just Iroha's memories to THINK that she resolved things with Auntie is up to interpretation).
Later, ELPIS is used so they can target a specific person's Pure Illusion, in this case Salt's dad's. When they dive in to his subconcious they fucked something up, resulting in him becoming obsessed with Mimi and Pure Illusion.
http://ladysnake.jp/blog-entry-23.html
↑
Click!
>>155757513
I want to ride with sukeban Cocona and cause trouble for the establishment too.
>>155742271
flip floppers was so bad
>>155763495
FlipFlappers = Yucky Tuna >>[Good Anime]>>Mars the destruction>> m'dooka
>>155742271
It was a great show. It's a shame nips didn't support it, but as we know, nips have no taste.
>>155775654
>Yucky Tuna >>[Good Anime]
just stop
>>155765040
> buying through a forwarder, so they are included in Oricon numbers.
Why didn't you just buy it through amazon?
Also, did you get the limited edition version that comes with a special packaging afterwards?
>there will never be another waifu as soft and fluffy as Cocona
>>155766676
It is, I tore it just to get the booklet out. The jacket is undamaged.
>>155777965
Because Amazon.co.jp doesn't ship to my country for some reason. This is regular edition because it's much cheaper (~5500 yen per blu-ray).
>>155765040
Do you feel proud being 1 of the 883.
It is actually probably even less if you include sales toward rental and 3Hz staff.
>>155775098
Cute.
>official figure never
>>155773104
I hope futanon never stops
WHY ARE THERE STILL NO DOUJINS
>>155781672
>>155742962
Sad panda. You are welcome.
FlipFlappers: the most modern example in anime of style over substance. Flat characters and story make for a dull watch. It's only redeemable quality was getting high and enjoying the pretty colors.
The only other style over substance anime I could think of in the past few years like it is Space Dandy, which was actually a pleasure to watch. Samurai Jack as well which has better visuals overall since that's how the story is told. Too bad it's /co/ shit.
>>155782364
>To view my other exceptionally well-informed and objectively factual reviews please like & subscribe to my blog.
>>155742271
The audience really felt the lack of plot, most where expecting the lolsorandom antics to end by episode 3 and they stayed up to 8.
>>155742271
I loved this show. I could see myself buying every merchandise if I had money. It should have kept the Alice In Wonderland feel for every episode but the mimi thing ruined it.
ok but what was the purpose of Newnew?
>>155784600
What is the purpose of a hyperart thomasson? Being without a purpose defines it's existence.
>>155743133
>Kuzu no Honkai
>yuri
>>155744868
>implying we aren't stronger than ever
>>155745991
What did they mean by this?
>>155745819
Madoka also had massive amounts of marketing and Aniplex bux, was done by a major studio and had lots of big names behind it.
>>155742314
Because faggots here praised it like it was the second coming of Christ and claimed it was going to sell loads.
Turns out it was fucking trash so it sold badly.
That's the irony of it
>>155785113
Calling this yuri is just cancerous. Yuri where it's due, don't force it.
>>155763495
>YuYuYu
>anything like Madoka
>>155785261
I feel like replying but you're not even trying.
>>155785285
Anon that entire episode was super fucking gay.
>>155742271
Did they fix the blatant animation errors in the last three or so episodes for the BD release? I can understand that they ran out of time to fine polish the TV release, but I'm hesitant to pay 47k円 for a flawed BD version.
>>155785500
Won't find out till June as the last 3 episodes are all on Vol.6.
>hesitant to pay 47k円
Get on my level
>>155785548
>I'm not buying early episodes with no flaws because the fix for the last episode isn't released yet.
>>155785391
Fucking cancerous. There are plenty of legit yuri to discuss. Imposing your delusion everywhere is what makes /u/ annoying.
>>155785391
One yuri episode does not a Yuri series make. At least it pissed off anti-yurifags though.
>>155785617
What was the point of this character then?
>>155785617
I'd say you retards who complain about yuri at every turn even when nobody even brings it up are a hundred times more annoying.
>>155785285
Agreed. One or two idiots here screech "Yuri!" whenever they see two female characters build a relationship. Not sure if they are serious or try to be funny, it's cancerous trashposting either way.
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