Why was the thread deleted? It was anime. Anyway, how does /

>>155594322
It's not a retcon, it's an alternate retelling or an alternate timeline, kind of like Pokemon Origins or Pokemon Generations.

>>155594322
And not one fuck was given.

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>retconning those watercolor backgrounds

Those motherfuckers

>>155594322
>Why was the thread deleted? It was anime.
Probably because it fits better on >>>/vp/

Wow, Ho-oh finally got its own movie.

>>155594472
This has no serena in it. Can't be /vp/

>>155594472
Threads about the Pokemon anime specifically have always been tolerated on a once-in-a-while basis. /vp/ was made because the franchise as a whole is huge, with things like the games, TCG, manga, anime, etc.

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>>155594322
I have never been hype for a Pokémon movie before but I can't wait to see this one. It hurts that it's over a year away.

Who are the VAs?

>>155594322

>no misty
>no brock

I can already hear the wailing going on right now.

>>155594421
>it's an alternate retelling
Yes, that's called a retcon.

>>155594322

>post gen 1 besides Ho-oH

What the fuck is this shit?

>>155595075
With that logic, all adaptations are retcons.

>>155595075
Different things. A retelling means an alternate story. A retcon means something that used to be canon isn't canon anymore.

>>155594961
it's not about Ash, it's about Red.

>>155595319
Motherfucker does that look like Red to you?

>>155595149
A 20-year-old show making a new continuity.

Why can't they come up with a new MC? If they're going to reuse Ash, at least give him back his old personality instead of making him the bland faggot that he is nowadays.

>>155595841
Probably to keep shilling Pikachu and Charizard

>>155594322
>Why was the thread deleted?
Because OP was retarded and typed like a thirteen-year-old.

>Anyway, how does /a/ feel about the original Pokemon anime being retconned?
I literally could not give less of a shit.

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>>155594322
>no Brock
>no Misty
>including other pokemon other the original 150

I can already tell its gonna be shit

>>155595841
But we're not in the age of bland self insert XY Ash anymore.

>Still using localized names
Absolutely disgusting.

>>155594322
Because you have your own fucking board where you can rag about it all day but still eat the same rehashed shit franchise over and over again.
And you're complaining this? It has tossed aside its dignity long ago and have made a mockery of its protagonist time and time again, it should

come to no surprise that your precious OS has become nostalgiabait and the plaything of people desperately trying to recapture the glory days.

Fuck off.

>>155596459
>muh XY

It looks strange but I can't hate anything with Mezase Pokemon Master attached to it.

>>155596459
Ash has been a generic nice guy for a long while now, even before XY.

>>155596447
>he still thinks there were only 150 pokemon

>>155595075
So you're going to say all future appearences of brock and misty will have the movie characters in future anime appearances?

It's pretty cool to see Ho-Oh wreck bitches on Ash's behalf, but aside from the semi-retro designs and some plot points, I don't see this movie treading new territory.

>>155596624
I'd say he's been like that during AG

>>155596447
>original 150
>Ho-Oh was in episode 1
>the Togepi episode aired a year before Gen 2 came out
>there is no logical in-universe reason why Mew is 151 while Mewtwo is 150

>>155594322
at least alternative Brock is a cute girl (male)

>>155597586
Scientists are weird. That's why we have gene sequences named Sonic Hedgehog and Pikachurin.

>>155598042
Probably the autism genes

So wait, the SM anime is in a new continuity? I guess we can pretend XY never happened then.

>>155598132
No, that's just some bullshit some faggots are trying to force.

I've lost all interest in it now. If I wanted to see new characters, I'd be watching the current anime.

>>155595075
Well, that's one way to show you're retarded.

>>155594322
Moderately interested, but honestly I want the this new Mezase Pokemon Master remix more than anything, that song and OK are my shit!

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>>155598896
Mezase Pokémon Master is fucking tight but Spurt! is my jam.

>>155599063
I
KU
ZE

WE'LL
BE
THERE


Honestly I like a good portion of the OP's, its just that Mezase and OK hold a special spot.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lfUe6sqCz5o

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>>155598042
>That's why we have gene sequences named Sonic Hedgehog
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sonic_hedgehog
>SHH remains important in the adult. It controls cell division of adult stem cells and has been implicated in the development of some cancers.
>Sonic literally gives people cancer

>>155595149
Fixing plot holes.

They should make Chicken-chan the MC, have Lillie be the love interest, and focus on cute yuri adventures.

>>155599626
Being gay is illegal in Pokémon, they had an episode about it.

>>155599652
>Name is "Cross"
>His hair forms an X
What did they mean by this

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>>155599743
They did?

>>155599847
BLACKED

>>155599652
>Souji
>Makoto

Oh, good, glad they arent brock and misty.

>>155599847
I'm exaggerating but
>random character of the day builds a machine that lets pokémon of the same gender become attracted to each other
>Brock says this is unacceptable and personally sees to stopping it
It was in late DP.

>>155594322

Is it me or Kasumifags just got BTFO once again?

Serves them right.

>>155600006
Yeah, but Brock is a faggot and the butt of everyone's jokes. Who cares what he thinks.

>>155599652
Where is garry?

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>>155600137
He got replaced by the furfag in the top right

>>155599652
What if the old man is Ash timetraveling from the future?

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>>155599652
The old man with the backpack is Red.

Makes me feel good that I dropped this garbage after the Hoenn season

Is...Inceneroar popular? I've been out of the loop since SM was really bad but is that terrible furshit design popular?

>>155600337
No, but that won't stop them from forcing it

>>155600382
Why? Why not use the grass starter? Incineroars design is just...so fucking bad.

>>155600006
For real? How was that even localized without unleashing an uproar?

>>155594322
ehhh, so they replaced Brock and Misty?

>>155600431
>DP
Nobody gave a fuck back then

>>155600006
make sense, since one of Brock's shtick is being a breeder. Can't make eggs if you put two guys in the daycare, so you're just wasting everyone's time.

>>155600404
Yeah. Primarina is the best SM starter.

will it have nice shonen battles like xy&z? I swear that and nostalgia would make me watch it

>>155600521
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5NHzI6_D4Tg&t=0m54s

So if no Brock and Misty does it mean we won't have any gym leader battles?

>>155600582
>>155600549

>>155600521
all the XY movies had garbage battles

>>155600613
But who's the fucking gym leader then?

>>155600549
sold

>>155600658
I'm talking about battles like the greninja ones at the end of the season

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>>155600664

>>155600674
right, that's what i'm saying. the show had good battles but the movies didn't. this is a movie.

>>155596447
>including other pokemon other the original 150
You mean like the original show did?

>>155594322
What what.

This is going to be the Marshadow movie? I thought this was just going to be a nostalgia trip revisiting the Indigo League.

>>155595075
it is in a way it doesn't follow the original anime but this one is going to a different route. Is a retelling of Ash's adventure but holy fuck the fucking mess they are doing, how far will it reach? through Elite 4?

>>155600770
Aren't pokemon movies usually like 90 minutes? That sounds retarded

>>155594322
well Pokemon itself has its own board

not that i object to this thread

>>155600798
there was one scene in a gym battle so unless they doing what they did with Generations which was a short sequence without the full battle

>>155600699
How about that Hoopa movie? Didn't it include shitton of legendaries?

>>155600715
>I thought this was just going to be a nostalgia trip revisiting the Indigo League
nah, based on the companions and rival, it's not nostalgia shit.


I dont know why they even bothered with Ho-oh. Kids dont know about that.

Don't the PVs for the Pokemon movies always utilize tons of scenes and elements that aren't in the actual product?

How much of this are we going to actually see in the film proper?

>>155599652
Gen 1
Gen 2
Gen 4
Gen 7

Gen 3 and 5 and 6 confirmed for shit

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>>155600828
Generations was a western project tho.

>>155600834
It did, but it was just a deathmatch. Good to look at, but kinda meh.

>>155600867
that's true, I was very dissapointed about the Arceus movie because nothing i've seen in the first trailers were even in the movie, that cool battle sequence between the dragons and Arceus never happened, just like Zorua never changed into an evil Ash

>>155600905
>Generation
fuck i meant Origins, holy shit did I mess it up

Maybe in this movie Ash will win a league, unless they try to avoid having him participate in it because reasons

>>155600842
Because it's to give a sense of closure to that aspect of the series. The first episode of Pokémon came out in April 1997, and the biggest thing it ended on was Ho-Oh, a Pokémon that had yet to be outright named at the time. Yet despite that being its major debut, it never had a particularly huge role compared to other legendary Pokémon in the anime. Ho-Oh is rarely directly seen in the anime. Ash saw it again at the end of the original series, and once more late in Advanced Generation. Other than that, it's only ever appeared in cameos in movies near the beginning, as an illusion, or in flashbacks. It hasn't really gotten a major starring role until this movie, and I doubt we really would have seen it in Unova, Kalos, Alola, or other Pokémon regions not based on Japan. It's finally getting the focus that it was promised 20 years ago.

I can just imagine Gen II being released on the eShop during the summer and the teaser for the next movie showing the GS Ball. Might as well wrap that story up.

>>155601192
Kids dont know about hooh. Literally serves nothing to advance money making.

>>155601192
>it's to give a sense of closure to that aspect of the series.
Ash saw Ho-Oh.

The end. There is nothing to it.

>there are people here RIGHT NOW who prefer the English opening to the Japanese one
Absolutely disgusting.

>>155601246
You say it like it had zero meaning when that clearly was not the case. While it would appear very infrequently from that point onward, you could tell that it being there was a promise for another day, a promise of adventure, mystery, trials, and friendship.

>>155601192
meh, Brock is more iconic and memorable. Same with Gary. I didnt think much about the Hooh stuff, thought it was cool but thought it best to never ever go beyoind just Ash seeing it for a few seconds.

>>155600658
The battle of legendaries in Hoopa was fine. They did put some effort into that part.

>>155598119
The Sonic Hedgehog actually does have theorized ties to autism

>>155600873
3 and 5 are the weakest performing generations, and 6 just ended so they can't get nostalgiabucks or push what's current

>>155594322
I don't like Incineroar being a bad guy. They should have given that role to Raichu or Electabuzz since they are Pikachu's eternal rivals.

>>155595424
it's about ash's son

the random old man is Original Ash after he went crazy over his constant failures.

Giovanni obviously cloned Jessie, James and Meowth like the Pokemon Government does with Jenny and Joy.

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>>155594322
Fucking psyched.

>>155601536
>i don't like the Heel Pokemon being a bad guy

>>155601536
>electabuzz
>being eternal rival of Pikachu
since when. DP?

>>155601764
since the first time he showed up. Pikachu always got shat on by Electabuzz since the Ketchup Episode.

>>155596805
>>155600709
It's a fucking Gen 1 retelling. Ho Oh is fine because it was cameo in the first episode, but other than that, it should focus on what it's supposed to retell.

>>155602020
it's a story of whatever the fuck they want it to be.

>>155594643
/vp/ was made because the Black/White hype season resulted in half of /v/ being nothing but Pokemon threads. Hence the name /vp/. It's a split board from /v/

>>155594322
>no Girthy motherfucking Oak
What's the point?

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>No Gary motherfucking Oak
>No best bro Brock.
>All these newfaggots that no one cares about.
If you are going to pander to my nostalgia atleast do it right damnit.

>>155604722
>If you are going to pander to my nostalgia
They obviously made it for new audiences.

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>>155594322
>all of those retarded looking nu-gen digimon
pokemon has been dead for years
let it go

>>155594322
>caring about canon
You fags need to grow up.
Oh wait, this is a discussion about Pokemon, I guess you're already manchildren

>>155599652
meh

>>155594322
Background and colors look inferior, different companions, at least the style looks close enough but I don't see the point.

>>155601192
It was just that. A grandiose experience that marked the start of his journey. I certainly doesn't call for Ho-Oh returning to protect him during a battle like seen in that trailer. That just diminishes it. It's also hard to give a shit about it when they retcon stuff.

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>>155595075
>Yes, that's called a retcon.
Okay have you not seen this sort of thing before when they take a part of an anime that's old and retell it with stuff changed?

It's not uncommon. I think Doraemon has done it too

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>>>/vp/32272876
Pfffthahahahaha

>>155599626
That would have been for the best.

>>155594421
Rebuild of Pokemon: You (not) gotta catch'em all

>>155609223
Do it right.
Rebuild of Pokemon: You gotta (not) catch'em all

>>155602020
>Its fine because its the first episode
Nigga you said ti yourself, its a retelling so they can add whatever the fuck they want to.

>>155611088
Anything with more Misty is fine with me.

>>155607757
>think Doraemon has done it too
source?

>>155594322
What the fuck did I just watch? where is Brock and Misty? what the fuck are these gayass looking pokemons? This is fucking shit. You have to be a mentally challenged person to consider anything past 2nd gen to be a pokemon. Fuck everything.

>>155614225
The extreme majority of modern Doraemon episodes are just retellings of old ones, since the old ones were adapted from the manga and the manga ended when the author died. So it's either "readapt the manga stuff for modern audiences" or "five billion anime only stories in a row". They chose the former.

>>155599743
Then why's Ash allowed to exist? The guy is THE premier faggot of the entire franchise.

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>>155612831
>more Misty
You're so naive it's cute

>>155614301
>where is Brock and Misty?
Who?

>>155596447
I don't understand why they'd trade out his classic companions if this was supposed to be cashing in on Nostalgia. I don't want to watch a movie with those nobodies in it if it's supposed to be his Kanto journey. His Kanto journey wouldn't be the same without Brock and Misty.

>>155615460
I like them. The boy is hotter than anything we have gotten since Trip.


i hope there's hotsprings bonding between him and ash

>>155604994
Well if their gonna do new shit don't go back to old places. Don't ruin Kanto with these shitty OCs.
>>155599652

>>155594421
For some reason, /VP/ has a serious problem understanding the idea of "different canons inside of a franchise".

>>155601564
wow i don't even

that's amazing

>>155594322
>pokettomonsutaa
>kimi ni kimeta
Man it's weird watching Pokémon in Japanese, even after spending the better part of a decade watching raw anime.

>>155610925
>>155609223
Idiots it's Rebuild Of Pokemon: You (ain't) gotta catch 'em all.

>>155599652
Is the Lucario trainer a boy or a girl?

>>155616140
Rebuild of Pokemon: You Can (not) Win the League

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>>155594322
>Jessie, James and Meowth are famous thieves again
>Misty and Brook replaced Lorelei and Bruno in the Elite 4

it's one of those movies about how much everyone's lives rocks if they never meet the shitty MC

>>155596447
Genwunner detected

>>155607757
The 2014 edition made it all a dream

>>155616748
No Misty? Worthless trash.

Think about it in terms of timelines, of alternate universes, like in capeshit comics.
>Universe A
Everything from OS to DP forms a continuous, easy to follow continuity with development.
>Universe B
M20, then BW and XY, BW referencing previous events that aren't really the ones from Universe A, but similar.
>Universe C
The one we're at, with SM.

>>155596447
Misty was a cunt.

>>155621257
The anime is all connected, though.

>>155621257
That's nice and all but it's all the same universe.

>>155594322
Holy shit that anons coma theory is true?
https://www.scribd.com/doc/24299239/Pokemon-The-Ash-is-Really-in-a-Coma-Theory