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What's the most unacceptably bullshit victory you've seen shounen battle manga/anime?
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Emporio killing Pucci should be up there.

Genkidama Trunks vs Merged Zamasu at least had good OST

Toriko vs Acaccia

Ywach defeate was also made of nonsense.
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>>155578732
Any fight with that shitty character in it.
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>>155578793
>Emporio killing Pucci should be up there.
Why? it made sense, WR was OP as fuck.
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Does Pain's death get the award for the most bullshit defeat?

Naruto talked to him about friends or some bullshit and suddenly he resurrected everyone who died in the war and killed him self. That is when the series turned into a massive pile of dog shit. I remember that is when the gateway spam started on /a/.
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>>155578732
when Kimimaro and Mashyu do an asspull win versus [ANGEL], but it doesn't show them actually winning it cuts to after the battle with them briefly stating they won despite them getting thier ass kicked the entire time.
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Not bullshit in a bad way but bullshit because I can't get over the fact that Toki should have been the chosen one. This is still the best fight in a shounen fighting manga.

You could have saved the world Toki.
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>>155578860

It didnt make sense the disk was compatible with Emporio when it wasnt compatible with Jolyne, who also had the Joestar blood like WR.
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>>155579018
>literally kung fu Jesus
>still not the chosen one
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>>155579054
Emporio wasn't compatible. There were two ways to use a stand disk- be compatible, or get it shoved in by White Snake. The latter happened.
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>>155578860
Weather Report as a stand made no fucking sense but yeah it being able to control oxygen levels in the room was the least bullshit of its arsenal.

Although Pucci haphazardly running into Emporio's stand room after meticulously carrying out his plan was dumb as shit.
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>>155579338

But he Pucci already lost White Snake.

Fuck the final Arc of Part 6 is truly a clusterfuck, Part 6 overall as bad as FT Spriggans Arc.
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>>155578844
Pretty much, she still didn't beat her Mom though. It's the same with August, he just quit.

>>155578793
Emporio was fine, the other 3 fights were just terrible regardless.
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>>155579279
I could have even got behind Raoh as the chosen one. Why was it Kenshiro, he wasn't ever nearly as good as those two.

I don't think Fist of the North Star is the best manga ever but it's definitely my favourite and I don't think I'll ever read anything like it ever again.
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Erza vs that one demon

Because they just literally stopped trying in that moment and didn't even come up with an explanation. Erza was entirely fucked, had no counter, was entirely beaten. But the author decided "Well she wins, because she's Erza", that's when you know a story has no validty anymore.

She has no senses anymore, she was worn out, she was losing beforehand, the demon has just powered up a lot, they couldn't think of a single reason why Erza should win.

They can't think of a single reason why she should or could win, so they just say "Well she's Batman so..."
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>>155579018
That one guy makes it clear all three of them were worthy successors any day of the week. Which is why its a damn shame they were all born within the same generation. Any other generation they could have been a great chosen one on their own, but instead the world gave birth to three chosen ones at the same time.
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>>155578793
>Ywach defeate was also made of nonsense
There was no way they could have defeated him without bullshit.
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>>155579932
>Mushibugyo
>got both arms cut
>got his side opened
>got his heart stabbed
>grab a petal in his mouth and slash his enemy and the whole castle in two with it
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>>155578793
It made perfect sense; MoH's special ability speeds up time, which fucked him up since the user is still human. It sped up the time in the room which made oxygen accumulate faster, and caused Pucci to get instnatly fucked up.

No matter how strong a stand is, the user is still just a human.
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Every fight Sasuke ever had.
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I don't think it's a shounen but A-A-A-ANGEL takes the top for me
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I feel like Ruffy should have lost against Enel even with his immunity to electricity.
That guy had powerful haki, incredible speed to the point where it seemed he could teleport, could create and manipulate matter like turning nearby gold into a heated weapon.
He actually seems so powerful that he'd be a better matchup for Luffy after the timeskip instead of the fight we had on Skypia.
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>>155578732
Ichigo vs Aizen was the king of asspulls
>Oh wait Ichigo we can train in the Time and Space Room from DBZ for 6 months and be more powerful than Aizen
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>>155578732
Ippo vs. Wally, everything about that mach was bullshit.
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>>155579018
Raoh is the one that understands that better than anyone else, he's weeping because fate had cursed Toki with a sickness that weakened him and forced the greatest martial artist the world had ever seen to resort to a forbidden art just to strengthen his body enough to fight and he still ended up losing. No true warrior spirit could've ever held back his tears at such a tragedy, the fact that he was his beloved little brother only made it hurt worse.
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>>155578732
luffy vs enel, yeah we get it, he is out of gum and therfore electricty doenst have an effect on him BUT ENEL MELTS GOLD AROUND LUFFYS ARM AND GOLD HAS AN MELTING POINT OF 1.064 °C HIS ARM WOULD BE FOOKING BURNED TO ASHES. Also Enel could just
dissolve in electricity everytime luffy is about to hit him
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>>155580627
>but you'll still fail to actually finish the job, so you'll have to rely on a mincing pedophile to show you how to be a proper badass. Again.
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>>155580627
Ichigo won in part because Aizen gave up over being ronery. That was the only way they could justify it.
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Jotaro vs DIO
jojofags that actually try to defend this, fuck off.
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>>155580214

someone seriously needs to translate this manga
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>>155580076
but the story established "believable bullshit" like Orihime's power, and didn't use it at all.
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>>155578732
Not sure it's quite bullshit, but the final fight in Rosario Vampire 2 was a pretty big let-down. "Dude, Alucard has arisen as a city-eating Eldritch Horror from beyond! What's that? His dead girlfriend who was married to someone else is going to talk him into committing suicide?" Final battle turns out to have a terror from beyond the stars being p-whipped by a dead chick.
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Why is JoJo so praised if it has so many inconsistencies?

Why praise the series for being "intelligent" when the author can't write coherent rules?
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>>155580915
Maybe conceivably her son inherited that power and that's how he did that thing that he did with that thing that he did that thing to?
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>>155580742
He clearly overpowered him

Btw the whole "his blade feels lonely" thing was such a missed opportunity to give Aizen some sort of fucking character but Kubo never delivered on that of course so Aizen remained a bland overpowered villain sue with no real character
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Jonouchi v Marik and to a lesser extent Mai v Marik.
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Hermes vs Sport Maxx, Hermes survives after getting her head split, fuck out of here with that bullshit.

Irene vs Erza, Do I need to say why?

AllMight vs OFA, if AM wasnt likeable then it wouldve been completely generic and a Mumen Rider ripoff.

Arima vs Kaneki, Arima committing suicide out of nowhere.

Oboro vs Takasuki on Earth, a worn out Takasuki owning a fresh Obito, which is stupid.

Merlin vs Grayroad, LOL I FORGOT IM IMMUNE TO COMMANDMENTS.

K12 vs Obito: Nakama Rasengan...just wut
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>>155581038

I said Obito instead of Oboro in the Gintama fight, but both are similar, the only difference is that Oboro didnt have a crush on anyone and was complete jobber
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>>155578732
Every single fight in Fairy Tail.
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>>155581005
The entire fucking manga was a missed opportunity to give anyone at all a bit of character and development. About the only one who got anything appreciable was Gin, I think. Everyone else was obscenely one-dimensional.
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>>155581009

The way the anime handled Jonouchi vs Marik was better, Marik wtf reaction made me laugh.
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>>155580971

Araki forgets, and also the art took a deep around Part 6, most of the characters are ugly as hell.

Ive seen 50s cartoons having better Art than JoJo Part 6.
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>o no, I have lost my 13 sense and my armor and he killed my mom who lived at the other side of the world. This.is.the.end
>MUH ATHENNAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>IMPOSSIBLE! WHERE DOES THAT COSMOS COME FROM! A MERE BRONZE ARMOR CAN'T DO THAT! HIS FIST AREN'T METEORS ANYMORE THEY ARE HARDER THAN METAL! HARDER THAN BRICK! UAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH
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>>155578732
Not a shounen battle manga/anime but still probably the best example
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Negima.

Victory happens off screen after a time skip.
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Let continue:

Shirou vs Gilgamesh

Metal Bat vs Garou

Erwin dying instead of Armin.
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>>155578924
Not really, whatever happened in the end Pain was already defeated and complete exhausted his defeat was already set in stone, he just happened to say "fine, let's do this your way, maybe I was wrong"
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>I use my catapult on my knight
>and I make your castle fall from the sky and kill your team
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>>155580637
>if I tap him a billion times, his body will break
It was like George wanted Ippo to be a video game. That fight would make *more* sense if there was a reveal page, nearing the end of the fight, where it showed that Woli had an HP bar.
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>>155581267
The Pegasus Knight was always rencarnated and made more powerful in each life, so did most of the Saints of Athena, since she wouldn't allow their souls to be tortured for eternity in her nemesis realm

That said, Athena was basically Cosmo fucking him all the time
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Gally's like my cockslut waifu and all, but damn if the end of the Zott wasn't a massive asspul
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>>155581314
Okay no, I'll be the first to admit this is bullshit, but this is the exact bullshit Index runs on. It is acceptably bullshit.
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>>155581157
I will always be depressed about the fact that Gin died. He was my favourite character in the entire series, and I still think about him all the time, even though I barely even read Bleach.
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>>155581516
>>155581314
Eh the first time is understandable

The second and third is when it gets retarded
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>>155581097
Oboro was dying as well though as his immortal blood was running out.
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>>155581404
>Shirou vs Gilgamesh
Was waiting for that to be posted. Let the flamewar begin.
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>>155581592
The second time was pretty ridiculous with Touma tanking the land tsunami but the rest of the fight made sense with Touma's precog. Accel threw the third fight.
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>>155581404
>Metal Bat vs Garou
What's wrong with that?
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>>155581655
Who would win in a fight:
Gilgamesh or Gilgamesh's pride?
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>>155581211
>unacceptably bullshit victory
try again dumbass he lost regardless
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>>155581583
I really wish he never joined Aizen and got killed off. I really enjoyed him just trolling everyone in Soul Society.
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>>155578732
The end of the tournament arc in fairy tail

The opponent LITERALLY gives up purely because of the power of friendship, he does not even try to fight them even though they are all wounded and he is at full health.
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>hey pikachu, put water on onyx and use thunderstorm!
>hey pikachu use thunder armor!
At least he gets out-bullshitted when it comes to winning leagues.
>that guy who use a frigging darkrai
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>>155581428
>Yugi "Asspulls" Muto
Remember when he literally invented an ability for Kuriboh, that made him explode and blind Thousand-Eyes Restrict? That was absurd.
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Everything involving Musashi
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>>155581865
>that guy who use a frigging darkrai
XY was outright bullshit as well
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>>155581428
to be fair, his opponents also made up bullshit along the way
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>>155581865
>thunder armor
thunder armor was cool shit though and he'll never do it again
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>>155581879
>your time magic aged my dark magician
>now he's the dark archmagician lol
>I fuse my mammoth on your dragon so its undead nature poison him
sometime I wondered like, were there actual cards for that shit.
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>>155581918
>*everything* involving Musashi
>Motobe vs Musashi
>bullshit
more like
not
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>>155578732
too easy
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>>155582017
The fights were basically Chuunibyou.
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>>155582017
Another example is the end of the duel vs Dartz.
>Dartz: I have an infinity attack monster!
>Yugi: I use this combo and I get a infinity+1 attack monster lol.
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>>155578732
Leave the Empire's strongest to me!
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>>155581607

I said their fight on Earth, after Takasuki fought Gintoki.

Oboro lost his credibility then.
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>>155581952
>>155581952
>XY was outright bullshit
he lost against a nigga using like four pokemon that were 4x fighting Ash was just trash at battling.
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>>155581697

Metal Bat was said to be capable of defeating Dragons and he cant beat human Garou.
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>>155581421

No you are not, it just so happen that people complain a lot about Naruto while not really paying much attention to it.

>>155578924

/a/ was shitting on Nardo since before Shippuden was a thing. Anon, please.
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>>155582217
Oh my bad.
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>>155582108
Anon pls read the manga

remake when?
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>>155582252
Garou is also capable of defeating Dragons. And S class heroes.
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>>155582185
that fucking fight didn't they hype up that thunder guy and then he lost the only fight he had in the series.
was this the begining of incursio being almost invincible I can't remember.
>>155582252
wasn't this because their fight got cut off though
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>>155582371
So she pianos him to death?
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>>155582252
Bat was about to win but stopped cuz his imouta
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>>155581428
Yugi was a filthy fucking cheater.
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>>155582371
I only read the finale but didn't they all get some op power up
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>>155582441
No she syncs with his soul and enters the madness itself

If I can spoil you a little, at your own risk about the ending

They don't really truly defeat him, he gets sealed in the moon because he is madness itself, that is a part of the world, Both Kid and Black Star are stronger that Chrona, actually Black Star might be the strongest being alive

>>155582490
Not really, Maybe Kid since

Shinigami dies and he awakens as a true Shinigami, but unlike his father he accepts madness as part of existence
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>>155581700
his pride, every time
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>>155582017
The dark sage thing was a real card. But mainly since the manga came first they would mostly just print cards for all Yugis bullshit asspulls
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Edward stomping Father when he has his arm back.

Kyoukai vs Yuuren, PoF moment.

Nanao vs Lillie

Nemu vs Pernida

Deku going over 100% in the Summer Camp Arc and not having permanent injuries.
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>Black Star might be the strongest being alive
nice
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Not exactly a victory, but Byakuya's survival after As Nodt shredded him. He was supposed to die there, but Kubo's editors started throwing their weight around, unhappy he was killing one of the most popular characters
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>>155581404
>butthurt gilfags are still mad because they can*t undertand TM rock paper scissors powerlevel
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>>155581005
Aizen's character was great though. I don't get this meme. And I'm not talking about the charismatic meticulous keikaku master that everyone tries to pretend he is. His ACTUAL character.

Aizen has no purpose or goal. He's a guy who was born with immense strength and power and didn't know what to do with it or how to relate to anyone around him so he spent his life seeking answers and sating his curiosities.

He followed Urahara's footsteps and made a Hogyoku because he was curious about it.

He 'made' Ichigo to figure out how Hollowification works when White attacked Isshin and Masaki.

He made the Arrancar to test the limits of the Hogyoku's power, he didn't need an army.

He captured Orihime because he wanted to observe her powers.

He let Gin continue to follow him because he wanted to know how and when he would strike.

And he let Ichigo get stronger and stronger because he wanted to see how far a Shinigami/Hollow/Quincy hybrid could go.

The whole Soul King thing was a rationalization he made when he saw how far above everyone he was.

So he was caught off guard when Ichigo finally surpassed him, he didn't think it was possible.

Aizen was a wayward soul that tried to rationalize the world around him until he saw something that intrigued him and then he wanted to know more.
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>>155580971
Good fights sometimes and very good at building tension. That's it really. It's praised more than it should be but at the same time it's very unique and entertaining, which is more than can be said for the majority of manga.
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>>155582717
He's a boring, bored, one dimensional ninny.

He peaked at the rescue of Rukia. The only character development he ever got was oiling up his hair like some perverted Italian.
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>>155582704
>expecting a popular character die in Bleach when Hitsugaya survived a fatal wound at least 3 times
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>>155583089
Kubo was going to do it, though. This wasn't a "grievously hurt and fate is left ambiguous when we know he's gonna live" this was Kubo flat out killing Byakuya
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>>155582653
>Kyoukai vs Yuuren
whole fandom hates this one huh? I get it though but I can also understand why her friends were the thing that brought her back from the darkness. I mean we new they were gonna be mentioned at least a little during her revenge arc. But it would still make more since that Yuuren was stronger considering she actually survived the ritual and killed her own sister.
Kinda ruined the arc for me but I am kinda torn on if it was acceptable or not myself. The revenge arc is probably the weakest anyway it was hell of disappointing.
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>>155583171
also the shiyuu should a been kaine.
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>>155582704
He honestly should have been killing of Shinigami in the Arrancar fights instead of making them job it like they did. I can't think of single important character they managed to even kill or hell win against without a sudden turn around making them lose.
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>>155583143
Did anyone really believe it, though?

We were already fully accustomed to "dead" people being just fine.
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>>155583331
I fully believe that he was going to do it. Especially the way he did the scene where Ichigo and Byakuya talk, while Byakuya is still in the wall. The way it was framed, it was evident that he was about to die
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>>155583051
There's minimal character development for anyone in Bleach and most of it for the worst (like Rukia). Aizen at the execution and Aizen fighting Yhwach is basically the same character. Aizen had a basis for his character though and everyone chooses to ignore it.
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>>155578732
heh
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>>155583442
It's ignored because Kubo ignored it and did nothing with it.

Like I said, he's one dimensional, just like 99% of the rest of the cast.
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>>155583521
Poor Hinamori. She was everyone's punching bag and they never even knew it.
>She's still wet for Aizen even after all this shit
Jesus christ woman
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>>155583521
>she continued standing there doing nothing, If anything she was surely a girl.
da fuq is this an edit
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>>155583521
...I think those numbers are a tad bit off judging by her appearance.
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>>155578732
>Erza vs Tree guy

Really? OUt of all the bullshit Erza wins, this is one that I can kinda get behind.
Like,t he visual symbolism of all of them pushing her on was silly, but that was just that, symbolism.
What actually happened was that she rode his massive explosion's force to speed herself up for the last cut.

It's silly as fuck, but nowhere near as bad as "BECAUSE SHE'S ERZA".
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>>155583622
>>155583634
It's a parody of Whitebeard's death from OP
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>>155582710
It's not even gilfags, it's just secondaries who watched zero first and thought fate worked on dragon ball power levels
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Love dragonball but, Super Saiyen was the mother of all asspulls.

I guess there was no choice since he made Freiza so OP, but it certainly fucked the power scaling for the rest of Z.
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>>155582704
Good God, that entire arc was shit. I didn't think it was possible to drag shit that far, but Kubo sure showed me.
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>>155584076
There's always a new low to be reached.
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>>155583804
pretty much
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>>155582717
>Aizen's character was great though
No it wasn't
We never even knew what his motivation for killing the Soul King was and what he was planning to do afterwards

He was the same shit as Perfect Cell from DBZ who is another pointless villain except he's much lamer
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>>155583679
Whitebeard was a gigantic jobber desu.
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>>155581428
Everybody was making up bullshit in Duelist Kingdom
This was before the TCG became mainstream and before the rules were properly set in stone anyway

The biggest bullshit Yami pulls is the hole "muh heart of cards" bullshit when he practically cheats with his millenium puzzle to get the card he needs
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>>155581157
>he entire fucking manga was a missed opportunity
Agreed but Aizen was one of the worst offenders
I think Ichigo got some decent character development in Soul Society arc but after that his character completely regressed and became a boring emofag so yeah
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>>155584628
He had such potential, and he utterly wrecked Akainu's shit. But BB had to show up to ruin the fun
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>>155578793
>Toriko vs Acaccia

more like Acacia planned Toriko's victory from the very start. He knew the white ogre inside Toriko is the only thing that can defeat NEO. With NEO's weakness being anger imbue attack, Acacia made Toriko rage so hard that Toriko filled NEO with rage and made him spit out every ingredients he had not digested.
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>>155581211
I'll never forgive Togashi of this.
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>>155578732
For me, it's the opposite.
Kumagawa from Medaka Box not winning a physical fight.
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>>155581038
How was All Might vs OFA an asspull? They keep going 'plus ultra go beyond' etc. throughout the manga, and it took literally all the energy left in him to only knock the guy out. I think they set it up pretty well that All Might was going to do one last thing before totally losing All For One
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>>155580214
Translations please, I don't care if its shit I just really like the art
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>>155584782
>nen gets stronger after death
>hisoka gamble with this fact and had nen imbue his lung and heart so that it message them back to life

Nothing wrong with this. The only down side is that some of Hisoka's limbs are support by nen.
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>>155581404
Metal Bat was going to win though.
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>>155578732
Truck-san not getting his killstreak
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>>155579018
>>155579279
>>155579917
Ken was the best inheritor because he was the middle ground between Raoh's savagery and Toki's altruism.
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>>155581865
PIKACHU AIM FOR THE HORN
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>>155583171
I was fine with it. Kingdom fights are always about characters pulling huge amounts of power out of their ass while half-dead.
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>>155582565
>death kid got his daddy's power
>Still weaker than kishi and black star
>those new cross bullet attack did jackshit to kishi, aka his brother
>the background to how kishi is related to death and kid will never be explained, perhaps they are aliens, perhaps they were sent by the god, but who the fuck knows because the author had abandoned the story and is now working on magical fire fighter
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>>155584813
That was the whole point of him though, he never "wins", and when he does, some bullshit prevents him from actually winning, sometimes even his own autism.
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>>155582179
Dartz was filler
Also Dartz was a fucking pussy with his 20000lp
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>>155582371
>loltits the ending xD
Fuck this series
It doesn't deserve a remake
Shaman King deserves a remake before this shit anyday
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>>155583442
>Rukia
>worst
Orihimefag spotted
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>>155584003
>Super Saiyen was the mother of all asspulls.
What?
No it fucking wasn't
That shit was built up for multiple episodes/chapters

Vegeta kept mentioning it as the reason Freeza was afraid of the Saiyans and why he wiped them up
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>>155584813
>Reading that garbage
Fuck outta here
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>>155585111
I recently just caught up can I just gush for a fuckin minute with you anon.
It's fucking amazing probably the best long running manga I've read in a while.
Every arc feels like Shin's journey is just about to begin and always starts of fresh. I love how over the top things are. Kanki the GOAT and honestly the chapter where Shin's commanders were jerking him off made me wanna -read the first campaign again. Why are kingdom threads practically non-existent on /a/.
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>>155582179
It wasn't infinity +1,his monster's attack reached infinity, so their powers tied and both were destroyed after the attack.
Since he needed the snake monster to be on the field to be on the field to keep dueling due to it's bullshit effect of boss monster, he lost the duel.
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>>155585111
reminds me of mobu vs kanmei where mobu's broken hand bone go back to his arm just because mobu said so
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>>155585795
>mobu kill mobu strongest man there is
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>>155582717

Much of what you say is just conjecture because we were never given any clear explanations about Aizen's character. We know nothing about his past beyond TBTP, we only find out what his ultimate plan was (Soul King) the same chapter he is defeated, and we never find out exactly why he feels that way.
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>>155585450
>Why are kingdom threads practically non-existent on /a/.
When we were catching up and got a couple of chapters each week there were HUGE threads on /a/. It was just that there were some rather weak arcs after that and since then kingdom threads tend to die very soon
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>>155584905
He basically used his nen as a defibrillator, all of it fit within the grounds and capabilities of nen.

And the nen prosthesis doesn't help him. He said himself in the fight that he loses precision because of the lost limbs.
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>>155586004
>here were HUGE threads on /a/.
this myth again.
pretty surprising they die like that now considering the current arc is supposed to rival the coalition theres barely threads when it updates pretty sad.
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>>155579917
>>155579018

Man this really need an HQ rescanlation, some of the early chapters were pure eye cancer.
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>>155586429
I didn't see the end of the season three but I mean akashi could literally see their moves sounds he didn't have weakness at all they kinda needed bs. but I don't get how this is even a fraction of possible considering emperor eye had nothing to do with kuroko' power.
so what the fuck is this did he go in the zone?
also did anything top the hype that was the phantom shot.
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>>155581404
>t. Salty ass mantel Bat Fag
How's your boy doing, oh right he's in the hospital while Garou is fucking his sister and WDM HAHAHA
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>>155581404
Not only was that the cleanest fight in the series, OPM doesn't have any bullshit powerups or victories
>>155581428
I thought his millennium item granted him his bullshit powers
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>>155583679

Makarovs death felt like a complete parody of WBs death.
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>>155585795

Lets be honest, Moubu vs Kanmei was the best fight in Kingdom, nothing comes close to it.
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>>155586785
Kuroko has the quasi emperor eye. Instead of seeing his opponents future, he sees his teammates. He supposedly developed it because misdirection relied on watching your own teammates, and watching them for so long allowed him to see into their futures. Honestly Extra Game is more bullshit because they almost lost to five guys whose main powers were being tall and fuckhuge. Like fuck you're built up to be these reatrdedly powerful basketball players for three seasons and you almost lost to five guys just because they were fuckhuge.
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>>155580673
Enel was cocky. The fact that someone was just able to touch him shook the fuck out of him. He relied on raw talent, and that was pretty much his downfall against Luffy. I don't even consider Enels defeat a loss anyway because he just decided to fuck off to the moon anyway.
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>>155583171

I remember when fans thought Yuuren was Houken level.

The revenge Arc damaged Kyoukais character
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>>155579588
He didn't lose it, tho. His stand just evolved. Just like GER can still create life while having its own powers.
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>>155579018
To add into this, raoh throw is fight with ken by not killing yuria. And really just wanted to die to be with his brother
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>>155587977
>they almost lost to five guys whose main powers were being tall and fuckhuge.
and american anon don't forget murica anon.
>He supposedly developed it because misdirection relied on watching your own teammates, and watching them for so long allowed him to see into their futures.
slightly passable final battle bs but how did he go in the zone or this just happened.
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>>155582704
ichigo killing the soul king was the hardest i laughed in a long time
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>>155588550
nobodys Brouken's level the only way I see him dying is team tag kyoukai and shin after he's gotten better at using the glaive and even then this I'm not sure.
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>>155584003
Of all the shit in Dragon Ball you are gonna complain about Super Saiyan of all things? The thing that Vegeta went on and on 24/7 during all of Namek? And Frieza too?
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>>155589331
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DgznHJhzLDY
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>>155581005
>we still never saw his bankai
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Yu-gi-oh! Arc-V

The devil that has constantly been cock blocked all series has finally been revived, everybody capable of dueling rallies together to stop him, sounds good right?

Wrong, what follows is everybody doing half assed plays while constantly jumping into the battle and weakening themselves in the process letting the broken villain kick their ass even harder, then when all seems lost a DEM magically appears and stops the bad guy, but o h wait, there's more, said bad guy seals himself in one of the good guys and, I shit thee not, what follows is his actions being excused because he never wanted to hurt anyone himself, society was to blame and by making the person he jumped into, now a baby, laugh, he is forgiven and everybody laughs, the death and destruction he caused is completely forgotten and the instruments he used for his rampage's excuse is because they were scared of a girl who beat their asses once for the bloody rampage they went on last time!
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>>155589015
That's not the zone. The zone is the squiggly lines thing. Original picture was Kuroko activating his quasi emperor eye, not entering the zone.
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>>155590001
I know what the zone is anon I was asking is that how he achieved this or if it just happened
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>>155581157
What are you talking about? I can think of a handful of characters that had wonderful character development and a few other characters who had decent development as well. But maybe I believe this because I keep comparing Bleach with Naruto.
>>155581724
The clown didn't have any oxygen in his brain for a while, which would obviously cause severe brain damage unless his bullshit bungee nen had that too.
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>>155582235

I'm still fucking mad he lost.
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>>155589819
Doesn't Arc-V now occupy like the top 10 slots in the list of lowest rated shows on some jap site? That's fucking hilarious
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>>155590160
>The clown didn't have any oxygen in his brain for a while, which would obviously cause severe brain damage unless his bullshit bungee nen had that too.
irrelevant to my reply the "ass pull" had nothing to do with the actual victor of the fight it just allowed him to cheat death.
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>>155585252
Not getting because author lol noped it because of music
FUCK
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>>155590121
He just asspulled it out of nowhere
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Because she's Erza
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>>155582704
This dumb shit could be said for about literally every series. OPM, Naruto, One Piece, and Tokyo Ghoul always come to mind.
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>>155590412
fuck the other cats for actually trying to make since of that shit am I right
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>>155590121

They had to combat Akashi's bullshit after he went into the zone.
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Fairy Tail: The Thread
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>>155590274
Well I could say he did won in a way since nothing of value was lost for Hisoka but Chrollo lost two valuable members because he was retarded enough to not only leave the body alone but let Machi stay with the body.

Also the asspull was that bad for anyone to count it.
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Every super special sekret Sharingan jutsu in naruto
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>>155590635

Hisoka lost two limbs, just like Chrollo.
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>>155579018
Oh wow, good taste in /a/? Finally.

Toki said himself that Kenshiro had the potential. Toki was too much of a softie to deal with the consequences of being a master.
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>>155590767
Except somehow being able to make a substance with the properties of rubber and glue, and the ability to create fake textures on very thin objects allows him to replace two fucking limbs without any negative side effects.
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>Chrollofags are still mad
>Still trying to call Hisoka out while their fuccboi could only barely beat Hisoka only by cheating
Loving every laugh
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>>155590810

I was being DEEP.
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>>155590767
But he used that residual nen in order to get them back but in weak condition. Also that can be fixed by bringing him back to Greed Island to fix his arms unless I forgot something.
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>>155590635
>Also the asspull was that bad for anyone to count it.
as a victory? no when hisoka pulled the nen after death card he acknowledged he lost the fight with Chrollo regardless of what happened afterwards. You can only give him a legit win if he actually manages to kill them all. Not for just getting the jump on two spiders when they didn't even have their hatsu.
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>>155590911

He didn't get them back. He's using a rubber/gum prosthetic.
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>>155590911
>Also that can be fixed by bringing him back to Greed Island to fix his arms
what?
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>>155590810
I guess prosthetic are unavailable in Hunter x Hunter's advanced world. You would think with that all the unlimited time Togashi has that the asspulls would make little more sense than a Fairy Tail chapter.
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>>155581267
>THEY ARE HARDER THAN METAL! HARDER THAN BRICK!
I got that reference
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>>155590810
>Except somehow being able to make a substance with the properties of rubber and glue
Transmutation, duh

>and the ability to create fake textures on very thin objects allows him to replace two fucking limbs without any negative side effects.
Also horseshit. It's a prosthesis you moron, not recreating missing flesh
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>>155591049
You don't remember that healing card that Gon used to get his arm back?
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>>155591060

There ARE prosthetics. But why would he need one when he's a transmuter?
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How has nobody mentioned this?
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>>155591049
breath of archangel sorry I forgot
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>>155591060
Fucking dummy.

Why wait to install a prosthetic if he could craft one himself?
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>>155590737
>started out as cheap way to learn techniques, through the ability to copy stuff
>ended as an nigh-omnipotent force with the power to reverse reality even after death, teleport through infinite dimensions, become intangible, cast flames that can never be extinguished, etc.
nah it's cool
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>>155590944
We all know Kurapika and Hisoka will kill them all so the war and not the battle would be won eventually.
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>>155591136
He just wanted to wear genkai like a condom
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>>155591171
with all the chaos going on the boat I'm not saying that can't happen but its not set in stone anything could happen
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Sakura being retconned to being close to Naruto/Sasuke level is one of the biggest offenders ever, not even DBS retconned their character strengths like that.
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>>155591116
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>>155578793
Part 2's ending where Kars was sent to Mars was more bullshit in my opinion.
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>>155580971
It's just a fun series man that's the only way I can describe it. Even it's inconsistencies and fuck ups are kind of endearing.
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>>155591306
that's the entire point of the fight. joseph stood no chance but had the devil's luck beside him
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Kurono vs Nishi, ends up with Nishi regressing as a character, wanting mummy to save him, way to bury one of the best entertaining characters in the series, Oku.
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>>155591359
That excuse could be used for anything then.
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>>155591359
Yea I'm not arguing it could have gone down any other way, it's still one of the most classic asspulls I have ever seen though.
Still enjoyed it though.
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>>155582565
I really liked the fact that Maka didn't get any "power ups" in the conventional sense that forced her to keep up with BlackStar and Kid. She was basically just really fucking brave, and relied on teamwork with Soul (who did get power ups) to turn her personality into a buff.
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Gon against the cat
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>>155585112
>he author had abandoned the story and is now working on magical fire fighter
It's not bad though, and he gave one of the main girls ToLove Ru Rito's powers while fighting
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>>155591136
this is were I put on my nostalgia googles and earbuds on and mumur "I enjoyed every fucking moment" including the spirit shackles.
Although I wasn't a fan of genkai coming back through poo but he needed it I really fucking hate how he flexes is aura though.
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Aladdin vs Judal, with Aladdin asspulling his way to send Judal into the next dimension, then Judal not being completely dead.

Honorable mention: Alibabas "death".
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>>155591479
> hurr durr
okay
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>>155591136

What is there to call an asspull specifically?
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>>155591479
I wouldn't really call that unacceptable, he nearly died and lost his ability to use Nen in the process.
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>>155590490
I don't know about the others but Oda doesn't flippantly kill off people on purpose. Pell is the only legitimate case where someone should have died, but didn't and that was Oda's decision. I've heard he himself has said he regrets letting him live, but I don't have a source. Probably an SBS.
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>>155591414
it only makes sense for characters like joseph, though. goofy as hell and clumsy but always gets away with it because it's funny and charismatic. it's not charismatic when a goodboi wins with luck.
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>>155591589
>friend dying gives you power up
>big guy gives up to let you win
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>>155591150
Foolish nigga, tell me how that bastard is able to make a new arm and foot as if nothing happened?

Stronger nen I understand, but making body parts out of nothing but nen is bullshit without any repercussions.
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Soukichi vs Joseph, the ending made no sense whats so over and felt more like Joseph got nerfed.
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>>155591668
>friend dying gives you power up

Yeah.

>big guy gives up to let you win

That's not an asspull. That's literally all Toguro wanted, to use all his power and lose. Which he did.
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>>155591676
>Stronger nen I understand, but making body parts out of nothing but nen is bullshit without any repercussions.

People have done it before, though.
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Can some explain again how Mob shit stomped Koyama in their 2nd fight after struggling in the first fight?
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>>155591615
I didn't mean Byakuya's fake death I meant the pic that was posted where the characters say something arrogant but get beat down afterwards. Also Bleach had more characters who died than One Piece anyway.
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>>155591782
emotions
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>>155591668
this wasn't the case at all yuske had the power to defeat togoro he just needed another push thats why kuwbara told kurama to not say anything and toguro went 100% he wanted to be killed by somebody stronger than him.
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Will we ever find out his backstory and why he hates The God Hand so much?
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>>155591479
That made perfect sense. He traded his nen and his potential to grow for him to beat Pittou.

The asspull, was the solution to that ordeal, with "wish granting alien".
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>>155591676
Again, he didn't make body parts you fucking dummy.

It's a ruse, he's molding the bungee gum into the shape of fingers and enshrouding it with Texture Surprise. It's to APPEAR that he's been restored. Hell, it says so in the damn scan which you clearly didn't read.
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>>155591777
I can only think of Netero and that's understandable.
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>>155591882
still holding on to faith that he's gaseric although it doesn't connect well to the fact he had the berserker armor.
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>>155591906
Alluka appeared in the CA arc and it's called introducing a new element to the story
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>>155591906
Even though Alluka was a asspull I thought she was a really well written and interesting character honestly.
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>We have the same type of stand

I'm fine with shit like this if it's properly foreshadowed beforehand, if for example at some point in the journey Jotaro suddenly found that everything got seemed "stuck" for a second, or something like that.

But literally pulling this shit right at the end was just pure bullshit.

Also the entirety of fairy tail.
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>>155591910
You dumbass if it's a ruse why wouldn't he plan to go to Greed Island or get a prosthetic instead of faking it? Also it looks like he doesn't even need the fake shit if he's so strong now.
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>Satania proves herself to be the most physically fit girl in the group (possibly second most physically fit if Raph was able to go full force in the fitness test)
>jobs to fucking everyone all the fucking time
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>>155592102

Why would he get a physical prosthetic if a nen prosthetic is better? He's using texture surprise so people don't know he's physically fucked up at the moment. It only gives people a reason to attack you.
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>>155592213
You can't fix stupid anon.
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>>155591232
If Hisoka and Kurapika doesn't kill at least a total of 6 in the not possible continuation of the manga, it should be immediately dropped.
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>>155592273
I'm not quiet caught up on the manga, is Hisoka wanting to kill the Phantom Troupe just because he's extremly assblasted about his fight with Chrollo? That's what i've been getting out of it.
Need to find a place to get caught up on the scans, bato.to only went so far with the english translation.
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>>155592354
> is Hisoka wanting to kill the Phantom Troupe just because he's extremly assblasted about his fight with Chrollo?

Pretty much. He got fucked up for fighting his opponents on their terms so he's just going to ambush and murder them.
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>>155592354
>is Hisoka wanting to kill the Phantom Troupe just because he's extremly assblasted
yes and I think nyaa have viz translations somewhere not sure if they have ones up to the last chapter but look anyway.
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>>155592231
If he jobs that fast with that bullshit power up to any of those short trips, I've been reading the wrong manga. I'm more annoyed that it was possible and that all the other options were left out.
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>>155592436

Of course it was possible. It's been done before. Furthermore, he was literally surrounded by Spiders, people he wants to kill, so he basically just improvised.
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>>155580423
It could be argued that Enel lost because up until Luffy he never faced a real fight with his life in the line. Which would make sense when you can literally sense where people are and how they'll attack and are also almost unkillable.
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>>155592436
>bullshit power up

There's not any indication Hisoka is any stronger than he was before. Ambushing two people who don't have their hatsu is not really an indication of increased power.
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>>155592273
I think togashi is setting up a situation were kurapika we'll have to chose between the prince and chrollo. I do want him and HIsoka to form an alliance again though If Kurapika fights any of the trupe their dead because of chain jail. I don't think he'd let the opportunity of him meeting Chrollo and the troupe pass by they most likely will clash have anon.
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>>155592102
What the hell are you talking about?

He just made the goddamn prosthetic, it's on the page you just posted. How are you this stupid? He used Texture Surprise so no one would so that it would appear he didn't lose his limbs.

And you're also jumbling up the "nen gets stronger" shit out to be something more than it was. That only applied to using his nen to massage his heart and lungs. Nen responds to the state of mind and he gave clear conditions prior to him dying.

Nothing indicates a power boost. Oneshotting two of the weaker Spiders without their hatsu AND caught off guard does not indicate a power boost.

Next time, take you time reading the scans if you would.
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>>155592566

Kurapika gon die.
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>>155592523
That's pretty much it. He also never trained his devil fruit to the level of someone like an admiral or Doffy. If anyone but Luffy ran into him they would have gotten destroyed.
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>>155592614
him or leorio one needs to give the other development. please togashi give lerio any kind of physical conflict fuck let the nigga shine once.
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>>155592354
Hisoka had one of the many epiphanies in the manga where he wants to get revenge on the people who did him dirty by choosing the conditions of where his fight was held. Its like a fucked up wake-up call.
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>>155592566
That depends if he's able to get them with Chain Jail at all. The times he used Chain Jail were when they least expected it. He said himself it takes half a second to capture one with it but that's enough time for them to dodge.

Plus, they know his moveset now thanks to Paku. If he were to ever confront them again, he needs to rethink his strategy.
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>>155592354
And this was the page where he decided to kill them.
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>>155592893
>Paku
well you got me there anon I forgot annie and that she saw and experienced chain jail first hand. Well he really will need hisoka's help.
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>>155592598
It was stated in the chapter speedreader-kun that death brings residual aura, which is why Hisoka got a great boost in strength. Also he speed blitzed them so of course they would die with and without their hatsu.

The nen prosthetic is especially ridiculous since it requires no drawback you fuccboi. Greed Island was a perfect way to excuse his injuries without going off the deep end but Alluka is clearly an example of bullshit becoming more apparent.
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>>155593178

It's not a way to excuse his injuries because he wouldn't have been able to kill the spiders or get there otherwise.
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>>155593060
Well it seems that Kurapika got alot stronger so he may be able to kill them even if they're cautious unless they train too.
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>>155593060

Hisoka's not on the boat.
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>>155592354
>is Hisoka wanting to kill the Phantom Troupe just because he's extremly assblasted about his fight with Chrollo?
It's a bit more complicated. What happened is that Hisoka requested a 1v1 and utterly lost and barely survived. The fight involved several "stolen"abilities and was very strange and confusing. The rest is a theory based on subtle hints scattered in the last chapters. What probably happened is that Hisoka realized too late, after his near-death, that was rused, that the other troop members interfered in the fight in some way and therefore it was no* a 1v1 battle. Now Hisoka is severely crippled and refuses to be healed (even when it's offered for free) and he started stalking, ambushing and weeding out every phantom troop member, probably until Chrollo is left alone and is truly forced into a 1v1.

>>155591676
Hisoka doesn't accept healing because he considers his fight with Chrollo is not over yet. We've seen him receive healing in the past. We know he's fine with receiving medical treatment, but that was AFTER a battle. In his mind his fight with Chrollo is not over yet. He can get healed in several ways and my guess is that he'll seek it out after he's won against the spiders all on his own.
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>>155593243
Machi is his bottom bitch and was about to patch him up so I think he was completely okay with whatever happened.
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>>155593289
I hope all this shit'll all be handled on the boat I'm pretty sure kurapika is deserving of his spot on the zodiacs I'm sure he could kill them I wonder if he has something under his sleeve or if he altered his hatsu like chrollo but I doubt it.
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>>155582088
it kind of is
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>>155590295
Because of the music and the voice cast and I agree with him on that 2bh(especially on the voice cast)

Mankin anime had a badass soundtrack too so I see his point on the music as well
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2C6hkLLSHEk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_LWlk-3zV_M
Especially the awesome insert vocal songs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7kClsVUnhwQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QIHxMiSUHQE
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>>155592936
I think this is the exact moment when Hisoka realized he had been bamboozled.
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>>155593546
im not dying but i might be going blind in one eye
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>>155593178
This is fun. Keep showing how much of a fuckwit you are, anon-chan.
>It was stated in the chapter speedreader-kun that death brings residual aura, which is why Hisoka got a great boost in strength.
Nope, death doesn't bring anything. The residual nen is from that nen already in effect. And again, since nen is affected by the state of mind, the resolve helps it get stronger. In Hisoka's case, that applies to the heart massge.

>Also he speed blitzed them so of course they would die with and without their hatsu.
No fucking shit.
>The nen prosthetic is especially ridiculous since it requires no drawback you fuccboi.
Using fake limbs and losing precise nen control aren't drawbacks? God, you're dumb.

>Greed Island was a perfect way to excuse his injuries without going off the deep end.
Right, so he has the console lying around. And is willing to spends months finding the card he needs when he could simply just use a nen prosthesis.

>but Alluka is clearly an example of bullshit becoming more apparent.
You're still a goddamn idiot. I bet you the kind of dumbass that thinks Alluka's gonna heal Hisoka, right?
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>>155593289
No proof of any of that.
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>>155591782
He restrained himself at first in their first fight until he realised he had to get serious, but Koyama was close to him most of the time (so it was easy for him to deliver some blows on Mob) and when he wasn't, Mob would leave his guard down probably because he still underestimated Koyama

In their second fight, Mob was like "fuck this shit, I already know this guy can punch really hard" so he just put him to sleep as fast as he could
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>>155593754
Should I go suck your dick with well wishes with a because I've been a little worried and thinking about it since yesterday but you're not likely to get back to me and you know how I am with words

so dont die desu i dont want that
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>>155593860
Literally months have went by and the gun truth thing looks like a sign of improvement. Also he's edgy but not enough though to only brood alone without honing his skills.
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Any Kurosawa fight in Medaka Box
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>>155593949
I'll write up whatever in email like tomorrow or the day after
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>>155582717
>Aizen's character was great though
>Aizen has no purpose or goal.
Anon...
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>>155594090
>Kurosawa
er, Kumogawa
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>>155581421
>his defeat was already set in stone
Konan is RIGHT THERE and fully rested, meanwhile he just crippled Konoha's ability to hunt them down and Naruto is exhausted.
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>>155594091
and while you are at it you stop being an autist and get an IM messenger that lets you read all message history so we do not need to speak so publicly when you're dying and shit
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>>155593978
That's not enough to tell me he can somehow take down Spiders even if they are being cautious.

He only got as far as he did in Yorknew because he planned for it. I doubt he's expecting to see the Spiders again o the boat plus he cares more about the eyes than getting a rematch.
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>>155581157
this is true if you can only parse psychology in kitsch stereotypes. which is most of this board I guess.
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>>155593784
>Right, so he has the console lying around. And is willing to spends months finding the card he needs when he could simply just use a nen prosthesis.
Togashi could asspull that to a few days so what's the problem?


>Using fake limbs and losing precise nen control aren't drawbacks? God, you're dumb.
You're hopeless, Hisokafag. If he has this many negative factors why wouldn't he go out and get his limbs back.

>You're still a goddamn idiot. I bet you the kind of dumbass that thinks Alluka's gonna heal Hisoka, right?
You're really baiting right here. I already said Greed Island is an option jackass.
Just let it go already, Togashi is a fucking hack so why are you so mad?
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Fucking Makunouchi Ippo vs Wally.

The whole god damned fight was BULLSHIT. Wally was insanely overpoered due to some stupid as shit gimick of his, yet he somehow lost because he was scared of Makunouchi? Some small scrawny (Yet impressively) muscular kid even though Makunouchi stood VIRTUALLY NO CHANCE against him???

What the fuck, George.
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I don't care if this is not from a shounen battle but the monkey winning was pure bullshit
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>>155591888
Itegaki just loves strangling us by the balls and making us BEG for fucking mercy.

Especially with all of this fucking MIYAMOTO MUSASHI /BULLSHIT/.
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>>155582717
This.

>>155584542
>>155585999
This is what Bleach fans mean when we talk about "Level 1 reading". Good writing shows, it doesn't tell and all of this was adequately demonstrated if you were paying attention. Do you seriously expect everything you read to just infodump all the character motivations instead of playing them out through a character's actions?
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>>155584628
you have reduced the term "jobber" to meaninglessness gj
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>>155589727
He doesn't have one.
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>>155592082
Same bloodline stand.
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>>155594499
>Togashi could asspull that to a few days so what's the problem?
I see, so you're not arguing with any basis on fact or anything. You just have this hatred for Togashi because the fight didn't go your way? Kinda sad, bro.

>You're hopeless, Hisokafag. If he has this many negative factors why wouldn't he go out and get his limbs back.
If he could, he would. Greed Island isn't a viable option, that takes too much time and effort when he could just make a prosthesis and go after the Troupe. He's not going to playing fair, so 1v1'ing them is out of the question.

>You're really baiting right here. I already said Greed Island is an option jackass.
Except it isn't. Again, will take months and there's no time to do that and be on the boat.
>Just let it go already, Togashi is a fucking hack so why are you so mad?
I'm not the one crying over Hisoka losing and making up shit that he got a power boost. Nor am I whining about Alluka which you were about to do. Just admit you barely paid attention, drop the series and come back maybe if your overall literacy is at least high school level. Or don't
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>>155578732
has Erza ever had a decent fight?
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>>155594927
this
he used his shikai to trick all of them into thinking he had a bankai
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>>155584631
>practically
You mean literally. He transforms his top card to whatever card he needs the most. IIRC it doesn't even have to be in his deck.
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>>155579932
I remember that fight, such a shame too cause Mashima was hinting at a sixth sense of some sort before he went and said "CAUSE ERZA MAN."
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>>155578732
XY's Pokemon League
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>>155594758
>This is what Bleach fans mean when we talk about "Level 1 reading".
Please kill yourself
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>>155595513
And Kaiba was literally summoning multiple Blue-Eyes White Dragon cards without tributing in Season 0/Early Manga so what's your point?
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>>155595860
The victory was fine, it was the not dying that was bullshit
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>>155595860
USA! USA! USA!
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>>155579018
>>155579279

>still not the chosen one

Toki WAS the chosen one, by a clear shot mile. He gave it up because he's too damn nice and wanted to save Ken & Yuria from nuclear fallout.

I don't know how he kept it together so well with such radiation sickness, his final scene where he just disappears into ether gives a glimpse into the level he was at, there was even a flashback moment where Raoh is harrassing Yuria and suddenly there's a hand on Raoh's shoulder and Raoh turns round exclaiming "Kenshiro!?" only to see Toki there.

Hokuto shinken is an assassination style. Concealing your presence is one of the strongest elements of being an assassin. Toki just got the drop on one of the supposed contenders for inheritor and placed his hand on his shoulder like it was nothing.
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There's been a lot of times that Reiner should have certainly died but then lucked out and survived, but this takes the cake.
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>>155578732
Miyata vs Randy boy jr.
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>>155595140
I'm surprised you love that old fuck so much when he has an hiatus for over two years multiple times. But that has nothing to do with asspulls all over the place because you can't think of obvious alternatives to your plot.

Get off his dick since Berserk is always better.
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>>155596842
>when Julian defeated Reinhardt with not even half the ships he had, plus half of those were unmanned
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>>155597557
Hopefully you dropped the manga like me. The shit is too weird for a weekly read.
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>>155597678
I love that Miyata is constantly built up as having this glass chin yet he gets rocked by Randy Boy Jr. and stays on his feet the entire match
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>>155580971
Because it's "classic", whatever that means. Notice that older series like Jojo and DB get a free pass when it comes to plot holes and inconsistencies. The authors know this and just write whatever the fuck they want and ignore their own established rules. Meanwhile if another popular series people love to hate like Naruto did it, there would be no end to the shit flinging upon it.
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>>155597889
What did he mean by this?
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>>155591136
Not even the biggest asspull in the series
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This. Jesus christ was this a bullshit thing.
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>>155581496
>you are stronger, more expirence and more skilled than me on every field. But it's ok because I'm using the same body as you even though you are probably way more expirence in handling it.
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>>155581157
>>155581583
>>155581727
Sucks he died, still think he would have rekt the quincy. He just wanted to protect that smile.
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>>155581865
Tobias a best niggas just mad he can actually capture legendaries and train them, the champion we need.
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>>155584764
No matter how logically sound you try to make it simply was presented extremely poorly and rushed upfront.

I'm not gonna argue what his circumstances were by the end but he could have done so much better if he could take his time.
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>>155582252
What? Garou is a constantly evolving Dragon threat and a natural combat genius. MB is some faggot with a bat and good stamina. He's lucky Garou does not actually kill people but merely spars with them.
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>>155600516
>MB is some faggot with a bat and good stamina
Everyone in the series who doesn't rely on technology or psychic abilities or some kind of a monster can be called some faggot with x. Even Garou is some faggot with a body that constantly gets stronger and a genius learning ability for martial arts. Some faggot Metal Bat and his simple bat work on the same bullshit where they wouldn't be broken by a monster that can tear through buildings and can take on conventional armed forces with ease.
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>>155580627

One of the things that most annoyed me in that fight is that Aizen lost his mind for no reason, screaming like a autistic kid, just so ichigo could look cool.

Dont get me wrong, dangai ichigo is one of the coolest versions of ichigo, but that fight really felt like fan wanking.

Aizen had no problems in admitting old man genocide was stronger than him, he even created wonderwiess especially to counter genocide man bankai.

So Aizen could admit old man genocide was stronger than him, but Aizen went crazy when a hybrid of shinigami and hollow like ichigo surpassed him, how in fuck does that make sense? Aizen would know more than anyone that a hybrid like Ichigo would have much more potential for growth than a pure shinigami like genocide man, why did he get surprised by something he always knew?

Hell, Gin literally exploded Aizen, and that only made Aizen more happy, because now he could evolve even more, and then when ichigo came to fight, instead of being happy that he could evolve even more by battling someone stronger, Aizen lost his mind because he "discovered" a second time that a hybrid of shinigami and hollow has more potential to grown than a pure shinigami or hollow, what the fuck.
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>>155581428
>I attack the moon!
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Yeah, I know, I understand there is no way they could have defeated Juha at that point without some bullshit, but they waited until Juha had absorbed the soul king and half of ichigo powers, becoming a living god that could see all futures and counter anything that could be used against him, and only then did they use the asspull arrow, only after 70% of soul society was dead and gone did they use the fucking arrow.

And I dont even understand how a guy who can see the future got nabbed by a arrow, because even if the arrow was somehow immune to the almighty, said immunity would create a blind stop, and that blind spot would tip Juha about Uryuu instantly.

I hate when a author creates a antagonist that is too much powerful, only to kill him off in a retarded way, first Scion from Worm, now Juha in bleach, I cant take this.
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>>155601676
>author creates a antagonist that is too much powerful, only to kill him off in a retarded way
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Kabuto vs. Sauce and Itachi.

Anytime the Sharingan or Itachi is involved you know there's going to be some bullshit, but this one particularly stood out.

>fighting both of them at once
>knows how their techniques works and has a counter for each one
>is actually keeping up with both of them at the same time
>has a counter SPECIFICALLY for eyehax
>"lol heres a completely new ability of the sharingan and i dont even need to make eye contact with you for it to work"
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>>155595519
>>155579932
Wasn't that fight really early, too?
Like, it might even be the same fight, but where we find out that all erzas childhood companions are "evil" now or some shit and still in the place they were trying to escape, was that it?
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>>155596690
Yeah, the antagonist outright says that.
He goes on to explain that all might should have died right then and there, but since he kept enough strength to live MC isn't going to be forced to stand on his own.
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>>155584938
I have no idea what this is from and I'm not sure I even want to. Without context it is the most powerful character in japanese media I have ever seen.

>Not today, Japanese Truck Driver.
>Not to-fucking-day.

The only way this could be improved is if they were driving to the hospital to cure the MC's Girlfriend's Japanese Cold.
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>>155598011
Maybe it's just better written overall people are more willing to forgive things of higher quality
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>>155601769
This nigga blew up into an Uchiha balloon and then had a sex change into a retarded rabbit goddess. The Uchiha clan had it rough.
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i liked this but it was a bit asspully
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>>155578732
>>155578732
Any Shokugeki no Soma victory
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>>155604230
>not liking KETCHUP
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>>155597078
Because of the way HnK is written I don't really like the parts where Ken and Raoh are claimed to be on the same level or possibly even stronger than Toki, sometimes even by Toki himself. For a guy who is quite literally dying he is able to fight on level footing with two of the greatest Kung-Fu masters in the universe, I think the manga does a good job at making his true strength incomprehensible because I an't imagine what a prime Toki would be capable of.

I don't know why but I really like stories with tragic destinies which is why I love HnK, knowing that Toki has the power to rival Gods means nothing because fate has decreed that it is not his time.
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Kawaki killing Naruto

What an asspull
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>>155582704
Why did they bother when the series was ending anyway? It's not like Bleach was even remotely popular in the end either.
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>>155591060
Gido had prosthetic
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>How can she fight half dead and with all of her senses shut?
>It's cause she's Erza
I don't even bother looking for a pic.
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>>155580214
This would be okay if it was Asura's Wrath.
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>>155591676
I even don't see why the author even bother to give specific powers, when the character can do whatever he/she want with those powers.
One thing is thinking outside the box like using a teleportation scroll to kill your opponent with a wave of high pressured water, another is when you give for example "smoke powers" to a character and the character can use smoke punches, smoke explosion, making coffe with smoke, freezing stuff with smoke, smoke mindreading, smoke immortality... This become bullshit.
The purpose to give a some kind of magical power a certain attribute is to make sure that a character doesn't become a godlike being able to do everything.
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>>155580971
It's fun as fuck.
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>>155584692
>such potential
He was an old man with a bad heart, his potential was all used up.
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>>155584692
I still don't get why people think he wrecked Akainu's shit. Seems to me like they both gave each other a hard beating considering Sakazuki quite literally blew half his face off with a punch, but it wasn't nearly as one sided as many make it out to be
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>>155578732
Holy shit this was the exact moment I dropped Fairy Shit.

I mean I don't have the best tastes in the world but this was complete bullshit.
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>>155597702
Stop crying, it's embarrassing
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>>155580214
Ah, so scarred bro died? Too bad he was one of my favorites.
Unless they found a way to resurrect people i guess?

Someone should translate the rest of this. And Nejimaki Kagyu because why not.
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Ningen Power Trunks somehow shitting on a character several orders of magnitude stronger then him.
At least he technically won right afterwards but then he died for real.
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>>155582438
Well what do you want; golden super mode Incursio in the anime but Tatsumi dies by crushing to save civilians Esdeath kills afterwards anyways, or Incursio turning Tatsumi into a dragon permanently but he lives and has babies with Mine
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>>155601769
Didn't even get killed.
Just fucking sealed in a can to go hatefuck a bunny for eternity.
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>>155591479
He did Biscuit's technique in his own flawed way retard.
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>>155606135
Actually, it's completely different.

That is Biscuit's actual form, she uses Ten to reverse the aging process.

What Gon did was what Kurapika did, the covenant and the restriction. Sacrificed his potential for a moment's strength.
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>>155598157
This ending of this fight was great though and part of what I think made the final arc under-appreciated. Although I would completely understand someone not liking it for how rushed it was.

It wasn't Yusuke that won the fight, it was his dad. You expect Yusuke to win due to usual bullshit/friends/powerup but in the end he gets robbed. It was the best possible setupt to the conflict between Yusuke and his father.
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>>155592082
Nigga it was foreshadowed, he was the only nigga who did punch spam and it was cause he stopped time and punched constantly without noticing it.
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>>155604384
Toki a cute.
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>>155606135
Bisky is best girl.
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>>155606135
I want speedreaders to go.
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>>155581428
to be fair 1 season didn't had rules,
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>>155606609
The manga was not even focused on the card game...
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>>155606644
>it's another Yugi tortures and probably kills another highschooler chapter

it had it's moments
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>>155591823
Except in OPM's case it's always played for laughs.
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>>155593321
if you think togashi isn't setting it up for hisoka to got to DC you're a fool
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>>155600978
>the same bullshit where they wouldn't be broken by a monster
The material of his weapon is okay by manga standards. What's absolutely retarded is no one tries to disarm him when ONE literally says this faggot can't do anything in a fight but swing it.
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>>155585450
Because /a/ only cares about lolis and shounen crap
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>>155607282
>this faggot can't do anything in a fight but swing it.
Not him, but well, that's how weapons work. You swing them. And he's doing it pretty masterfully.
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>>155581125
Fucking this.

I intended to write those exact words..
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>>155591556
>>155591906
What you think matters not, I found it unacceptable and it forced me to drop the manga. It's a shame tho because I was enjoying the ants arc and I was looking forward to what strategy Gon had come up with to defeat the cat, instead he only powered up out of nowhere. Damn disappointing
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>>155591136

Toguro wanted to die.

Dude was regularly looking for ways to make Yusuke stronger throughout the fight. He literally had a death wish and took every route he possibly could to get it.
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>>155601992
No, this is in a later arc that for all other intents and purposes was surprisingly decent
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>>155605782
I actually like that he turned into the dragon from using it too much but that fight he just kinda power creeped hard out of nowhere. The gold form kind of looked like digimon in the anime I kiled it.
>>155603867
The only character than can beat Houken is Shin Houken is too broken he killed 3 great generals, has long stamina, survived a deep wound in the neck, made the Duke and his horse fly in the air after taking a hit from him, killed most of shins original unit, and can block a army's amount of arrows by spinning his weapon.
Shin getting a little bit of bs isn't really that bad when its against the most broken character in the manga.
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>>155607364
The point of the post is without the weapon he's nothing. Swinging it is all he knows, literally. Disarming is essential against faggots like that and no one even tries it, which is retarded.
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>>155607722
Yeah, Garou must be pretty fucking stupid to not try and take a weapon of a person who destroyes buildings with a swing. It's not like he could take the bat away from him.
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>>155607836
Garou actually tears off arms when needed and slapped this faggot around. The weapon is not glued to his hand, you goddamn retard. Yet no one attempts to disarm.

It's called shit writing.
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>>155578793
>Genkidama Trunks vs Merged Zamasu at least had good OST
Nothing was wrong with this if you paid attention
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>>155608006
>Yet no one attempts to disarm.
Garou cannot dodge or counter all his attacks and then take his bat, he's not fucking Sonic or Flashy Flash.
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>>155608191
>Garou can dodge and counter with over a dozen hits in an instant
>aiming for the weapon is somehow impossible
You're literally retarded.
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>>155578732
Not entirely sure if Shonen, but Reiner should be fucking dead
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>>155608275
pretty much
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>>155608280
remember he was pleading for them not to kill them with more than half of his head gone. I feel like this and recently is the only time he's cheated death.
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>>155607722
This desu
Well most monsters in OPM aren't particularly smart
Speaking of that particular fight though, Garou is the one guy who always disarms his enemy, so ignoring it was strange to say the least
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>>155579018
This was unacceptable, I got in to FOTNS pretty late, like two years ago and when I read it I was really down. GOAT manga.
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>>155582179
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=80fbdQBwbO4
>You can't!
>I just did!
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>>155579018
from what I remember of that fight, it was just Toki using a limited time power-up that decreases his lifespan to make up for his sickness and match Raoh's strength, nothing else worth mentioning decision-making wise.
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>>155580915

This was the biggest problems, there were logical ways in which Yhwach could've been beaten because Bleach was filled with crazy powers. But isntead it was just an asspull deus ex machina.
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>>155585450
I like Kingdom's battles and some secondary characters, but couldn't stand the generic hotblooded MC, ruined an otherwise good manga for me.
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>>155601676
>villain is a god that can see and affect every possible future
>a character exists whose powers have been described as going against gods will
>she is absolutely useless

Bleach was a mistake.
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>>155578732
Dunno, folks literally calling on Hao's mom to chew him out once he became god in Shaman King was fun.
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>>155578732
Jean not ending his turn and allows Future(Despair) Yusei to exist.
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>>155584631
The TCG wasn't even out during manga Duelist Kingdom.
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>>155601443
>Aizen had no problems in admitting old man genocide was stronger than him
Well he wasn't in his Condom Form then
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>>155581428
>Not the infinite attack one
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=80fbdQBwbO4&feature=youtu.be&t=1m37s
''YOU CAN'T''
''I JUST DID''
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>>155612099
There was no winner in that fight
And Hao just gave them another chance

It wasn't just his mom either it was every character in the series unironically showering him with love
There's no other way the series could have really ended. If Yoh killed Hao(like most speedreading shonenfags wanted) that would betray Yoh's entire character and Hao would just revive again in another 500 years anyways
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>>155612959
Technically I think the Bandai sets came out during that arc
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Joey/Jonouchi should have won
Rock Lee should have won
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Date Masamune killing gorilla at the end of Sengoku Basara instead of Iyasu
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>>155581428
Don't forget "Attack the Moon"
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>>155578732
dunno if this happens in one of the animes or VN (because I haven't gotten that far yet) but in the manga Shirou Emiya projects a sword and hits Berserker Hercules in one swing, apparently killing him 6(?) times over and defeating him
that was some bullshit
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>>155603867

Ouhon vs One of the Wei Dragon General(that was the name right?), was million times worse.

And that was the point when Kingdom started to go downhill
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>>155578732
Touma vs. the alchemist in ToAru.

People give him a lot of shit for the fight against Accelerator, but I think the alchemist fight was much worse in terms of plot armor. And if novelfags are any indication, the dragon is real and not just something the MC tricked the reality warping antagonist into existing.
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>>155613938
Heaven feel, Nine-Lives-Blade-Works, 9 simultaneous strike at vital areas. Not denying just adding info.
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>>155614117
Touma's arm is the ultimate plot armor and it bothers me considering how that series builds up everyone to not be a flaming retard.
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>>155597678
Of all the shit you could pick out of that series you pick Randy Boy Jr. over Woli?

Seriously what the fuck.
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>Katsuki Bakugou : i will be the victor of this tournament
>Becomes the victor because his opponent who's even more powerful than him didn't have for some reason a will to fight.
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>>155614117
Read the LN, can confirm.
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>>155614211
that at least seems reasonable
also fuck the manga for ending literally right as other Archer shows up, I'm still pissed I got blueballed
it made me pick up Zero and the VN so I guess things worked out
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>>155578732
HAHAHAHA this shit actually happened? My god I'm glad I dropped that awful manga ages ago
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You can at least wave off Erza's bullshit with her heritage, but you can't justify Happy tanking that exploding demon's strongest blast point blank and come out okay with just fringed fur.
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>>155614117
The alchemist already lost before the dragon even came out. He started doubting himself the moment the flying blades kept missing because of Stiyl's mirage. The dragon was complete overkill and only meant to sow more doubt.
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>>155594927
I thought all captiains except for Zaraki had Bankai. Wasn't that a requirement of becoming captain?
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>>155608006
What the fuck makes you think Garou could tear Metal Bats arm off. Let alone disarm him
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>>155614883
that particular fight wasn't so bad relatively speaking, but the image in the OP does represent the main issue folks have with Fairy Tail fights in general nonetheless.
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>>155615354
Common sense and the character's abilities, as well as tactics shown in canon. What the fuck makes you think the faggot's bat is glued to his hand and his limbs are immune to dismembering? The fact that you're retarded?
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>>155616094
So have Garou tear off Bat's arm and then have Tornado put Garou in space and let him float there, common sense and all.
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>>155616094
He might be an ass but Garou still wants to get the best out of his opponents, no point in ridding Metal Bat of his means to fight.
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>>155616311
What in the crackfic hell are you talking about now?
>Tornado
Kill yourself.
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>>155616681
The same crackfic that screams common sense in OPM of all series.
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>>155614464
>for some reason
The reason was spelled out quite clearly. If you don't get his character, you're too dumb to even read a shonen series.
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>>155616475
Well disarming your opponent is h2h combat basics and the point here is called a clean victory

Garou steadily disarmed every weapon user he fought with the exception of Golden Ball who managed to run out of ammo in less than a minute
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>>155613938
>>155614211
It's not Nine Lives, it's the part in the Fate route where Shirou projects Caliburn and kills Heracles 7 times by swinging the sword once. Despite the fact that Heracles, canonically, can only be killed by the same method once. No explanation or elaboration on this is ever given.
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Didn't fairy tail completely rip off the Goku's final attack against Piccolo Daimao?
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>>155617097
Whoops my bad, forgot about that part. I really need to recap on the Fate series
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>>155614424
Woli is off-the-wall and back again. Serious fans tend to be more pissed about RBJ because they actually expected the weaknesses for Miyata written in the manga to be real foreshadowing, and not just some crap written as filler text.
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Garou couldnt 1 shot a monster that was at most as strong as the Demon monsters MB trashed, thats why some people have issues with Garou sending to the hospital.
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>>155616737
Oh there is common sense in OPM. That's why the writing is only occasionally shitty and weapon wielding characters are disarmed 99% of the time while Tatsumaki is not shoehorned into every fight out of the blue, retard.
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>>155617253
Wasn't Garou supposed to be of equal strength to Boros?
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>>155578732
Fairy Tail had a lot of that. Erza getting beaten the shit out of by some dude who could control plants and then wrecking him because she has the power of friendship or something was when I dropped the series.
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>>155617115

Not only that, they also ripoff the Trunks vs Zamasu fight, Wendty giving her DS magic to Erza was = Goku/Vegeta giving their Ki to Trunks.
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>>155617253
It had regen. "Some people" are illiterate MBfags I guess.
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>>155617292
Shoehorned, you mean called in for a threat that walking up and down beating everybody senseless so lets sent more hand to hand fighters instead of someone who Garou you know, can't fight directly like common sense would say.
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>>155617374
Anon that's literally the fight OP is posting that panel from.
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>>155617315

They're in the same league.

Boros is just more destructive while Garou is a fucking god with his hands.
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>>155601676
How was Scion's defeat an asspull? Everything made sense.
It was explained that Scion was part of some ancient race of beings but was the last one alive. He had his body stored in some other dimension or something, which was where his mass was coming from and why he wasn't dying. Therefore, all the techies in the series worked on a way to nuke the body, and they succeeded, so Scion dies.
Weaver's powerup was fair, as the medical girl triggered her second awakening, and since Weaver could use mind control on bugs it makes sense that the powerup let her control humans. She had a tiny range on this human control unlike her bug mind control; through the use of that guy's wormhole power she had essentially infinite range by connecting two points in space.

What is there to misunderstand?
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>>155610922
That isn't why it's the best fight in a shounen fighting manga, you've completely missed the whole point of it.
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>>155617253
Garou obliterates Senior with bare hands, decapitates Reaper with bare hands and walks all over Rover in mere seconds

He also doesn't need PREP TIME to do his job

It shouldn't be hard to figure out who the better fighter is
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Doflamingo not killing Violet or any civilians was so retarded, one of the reasons why Dressrosa sucked balls.

Sai surpassing Chinjao, and that fodder Giant powerup were stupid too.
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>>155578732
Mami winning against Homura was stupid and made no sense
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claymore maybe? i wouldn't change anything anyway
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>>155606753
It was the best part of Yugioh

Yugi never killed a highschooler though
Only time I remember someone dying is that robber who got burned
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>>155601769
old schools always fuck up weridly.
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>>155618875
Old school is the only way to be.
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>>155582371
I did. Ending wasn't as good as I would've liked but was leagues better than the anime's.
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>>155621985
nice
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It was very much shit.
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>>155605228
Because a lot of these "Whitebeard btfo Akainu" people have only watched the anime, where they changed shit to make Whitebeard more impressive when in actual fact, Whitebeard had to literally get himself killed just to get a lethal blow on Akainu.
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>>155601676
>I hate when a author creates a antagonist that is too much powerful

More Shounen need to follow in the footsteps of villains like Raoh who was always about equal in strength to the MC Kenshiro and at one point Kenshiro was even stronger than Raoh who had to power up to compete equally again.
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>>155590246
19/20
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>>155605974
He wasn't sealed, he died of natural causes after the juubi/Kaguya left his body.
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>>155592523
So I guess luffy won with experience and better training
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>>155580322
That shit never made sense. Why wouldn't everyone just spam Mezoflations if they're so damn strong
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>>155614464

That fight had an actual reason to it. If you want an asspull resolution look at the fight Deku and Bakugou have shortly after their provisional license exam.

>Deku getting more training and using his legs, able to copy Bakugou's moves
>Bakugou explicitly getting little experience and training, his work experience was all comedy relief
>Deku increasing his tolerance using One For All from 5% to 8%
>No shut up Bakugou wins you're just not REALLY experienced
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>>155578732
Bleach's final fight.
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>>155623885
which, if you think about it, was not lethal at all. After WB died he was up and at it chasing Luffy like a rabid dog and annihilating everyone who stood in his path.
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>>155605570
You still here? Enjoy your hiatuses faggot.
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Luffy vs Lucci Round 2 was a pretty bad asspull. Zoro comes in second with asspulls as well.
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>>155606312
explain this tho
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>>155604384
>I can't imagine what a prime Toki would be capable of.

You can catch a glimpse of it being that Toki was the assured inheritor of Hokuto Shinken before he gave it up.

So you had Raoh, Kenshiro and Toki. And the master just flat out was giving it to Toki because he was that much better until the illness, that says it all about his level he was unbelievably good, HnK would only be a few chapters long if Toki was the protagonist, Raoh and everybody else wouldn't stand a chance.
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>>155581805
Honestly can we call that moment worse than 'THE HEART'?
It makes zero sense, to the point you'd have to be an ADD riddled 3 year old not to see how fucking stupid it was.
It makes no sense in any way shape or form. Even if you argued 'fighting spirit' their bodies were in such bad shape it doesn't fucking matter. Luffy could want to go another 10 rounds with Lucci after Jet Gatling but his body wasn't going to do jack shit at that point.
FT is the worst, and is only good for eye candy that only serves as breeding sows and now waifus
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>>155625901
he earned the victory fairly you stupid frogfag
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>>155606312
>he was the only nigga who did punch spam and it was cause he stopped time and punched constantly
the fuck are you talking about
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>>155627082
Final Getsuga Tenshou was worse than The Heart
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>>155625901
Ignore the Blast Burn spam for a second, the worst shit was Guillotine working twice in a row
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>>155578924
this plus Obito's, Madara's and literally godly Kaguya's defeats were just plainly Plot no Jutsu. They should have been undefeatable or not presented in the story at all.
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>Ash Ketchup
>reseting his skills after every region so he nevers gets stronger
Master tier bullshit.
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>>155582704
I honestly wish now to see Kubo saying fuck it and cut the shit studio forced him to put in Bleach out. It could be quite nice manga really.
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>>155591154
I really liked sharingan in its basic form. Just take the beginning of the chuunin exam - Lee vs Sasuke where the fucking Uchiha can see how much his face is gonna be fucked but his body is just not good enough. Goddamn brilliance, sir. You gotta work your ass off, not just relying on fancy eyes. One of the reasons I always hated Neji
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>>155627082
yes, the implausible defeat of Yhwach and Valkyrie. Both bullshit AF
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>>155629311
Pragmatically, The Miracle's defeat was more bullshit than Yhwach's.
>almost the entire Gotei loses to him repeatedly, he keeps getting stronger, it's not clear if he can even be killed
>lol let's just Auswahlen him
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>>155627814
So your telling me The Heart and FGT is worse than 8 gates Might Guy, Naruto and Sasuke's mega sage power ups, Madara's jobbing and Kaguya's appearance, Because she's Ezra and all her wins, and all of Natsu's wins?

Not at all because at least FGT took Ichigo's powers away and The Heart didn't hurt the story at all compared to the shit I mentioned.
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>>155618047
Just headcannon some civilians as dead. It's not hard. I've done this almost every arc. Just assume Oda doesn't show the dead people.
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>>155606296
Raizen wasn't Yusuke's father
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>>155625730
Well, you are a Miura cocksucker so I'd say the same.
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>>155626522
I'm glad I wasn't the only one confused about this. I waved off Dio flying around because he's Dio, but then Jotaro took to the sky too. The hell?
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>>155581211
It's too late for complain when you consider alluka existence and "legitimacy" among HxH fans
The manga was basically perfect until this. Now we have asspulls everywhere and it's not gonna stop
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>>155631267
Nigga just leave it alone, Togashit fanboy. I only said that to trigger your dumbass since Berserk is some shitty shit as well.
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>>155591882
He is king Gaiseric, a human that became an apostle. I bet Guts is on a similar path of becoming something like him.
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>>155631554
You didn't trigger shit. You spat out Berserk for no fucking reason after I tore your arguments to shit. I figure that was your attempt at a retort so I pegged you a Miura fag.
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>>155631549
>Paranoid ravings
Right-o, anon
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F91 should have won without a doubt
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>>155631038
>8 gates Might Guy
That shit was hinted at from the beginning early on in the series

Naruto's sage power-up was bullshit
I don't even know why you're bringing up Naruto
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>>155592082
this was due to Araki retconing

the world was supposed to be revealed that it was a stand with the powers of ALL OTHER stands, so it was using time stop from Star Platinum

but Araki decided fuck it its too complicated
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>>155633170
Kakashi stated during the Chunin Exams that using unlocking the 8 gates gives the user the power that surpasses several kages. Since Madara just destroyed several kages in his weakest form, Might Guy was somehow stronger than Madara who shouldn't even be touched after getting the fucking ten tails.

Also were talking about bullshit that happened so Naruto is obviously relevant.
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>>155632750
I was done arguing with you fagtron but you still can't see that Togashi is using his legendary status to get away with his bullshit so you didn't tear shit. Also you sound pretty triggered since you're still getting mad.
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>>155634057
>Kakashi stated during the Chunin Exams that using unlocking the 8 gates gives the user the power that surpasses several kages.

Kakashi stated that using 8 gates gave an genin the power to surpass multiple kages. It's a multiplier. Obviously it's going to have a much greater effect on somebody who has a much higher base strength. And Guy still lost anyways.
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>>155634231
We were done because you didn't have a good argument to start. It ended when you've shown you didn't actually read the scans or rather you couldn't read very well, so that's the breaks, sorry to say.
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>>155592082
>I'm fine with shit like this if it's properly foreshadowed beforehand
What do you think the entire poker game was? The reason darby broken down is because he thought jotaro could also stop time like DIO, who terrified him because of his power (which he is confirmed to know) and he was stuck between telling jotaro about the world and being at DIO's mercy or not telling him and being at the mercy of the same ability.

Not to mention that punching and moving at the super fast speeds that SP does is basically the same as stopping time in practical terms.

>>155626522
>>155631402
they use their stands super strong legs to kick off and propel them into the air, it looks like they're just flying around because of shitty directing/compressing of the scenes
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>>155601676
Better question is how anyone; figured out Quincy Silver was found in the hearts of those slain by Auschwalen, gathered enough of it to make an arrow, figured that it countered Juha.

Even if you find the silver during an autopsy of some kind, what leap of logic lead to "God's Weakness" I ask?
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>>155634313
>Exceeding the power of every other gate, the user is temporarily granted approximately a hundred times their normal power, far beyond that of the five Kage.

I got this from the wiki and it says nothing about a genin getting a kage level power up. Also he survived because of the hands of Narujesus so that's even more bullshit.
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>>155629055
>One of the reasons I always hated Neji
Why would that even apply to Neji? Literally the only things we see him do are fight and train for future fighting.
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>>155634484
The argument was there were better options for the bullshit I and other competent readers had to suffer. The solution was simple but Togashi just doesn't give a fuck anymore, hence the manga never getting finished.

Sorry about that.
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>>155635034
Could have been a prophecy, I suppose. Yhwach's resurrection was a prophecy, after all.
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>>155625556
At this point Deku should be the strongest in his class barring HotColdman
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Yuki Nagato versus the computer club
leet keyboard warrior skills ain't gonna beat cheats
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>>155635484
Right, better options like asking why he didn't get a prosthetic when he made one on panel?

Or wait, Greed Island! Except you don't know if he kept the console or the game after getting the exorcist. Or if you think he's gonna spends literal months on end to find the card. In a game he has the bare minimum of knowing how to play because he cared more about restoring Chrollo than actually playing it.

>Bu-But Togashi could asspuru.
That's your argument. There's nothing here to bother with. If the Hisoka fight bothered you that bad, I don't think I can help that. But at least try to have some sense with your criticisms, m'kay?
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>>155631549
HxH is a carefully-curated sequence of asspulls since the beginning.
>what is nen
>what is emperor time

Togashi is about enjoying the ride. Who gives a fuck about being coherent on a fucking kid manga?
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>>155636157
That's the whole point that it was an asspull. Even if it took months, is it that bad? If Machi patched him up was is that bad?

No, it wasn't but using arms made out of nen is more sensible because he died? I was alright with what happened up until the brain damage didn't happen and he has a power up that makes him OP. But there's no point in talking when you're wrong and I mean you.
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>>155636259
>Togashi is about enjoying the ride.
THIS. Asspulls or not, I fucking enjoy his series.
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>>155635974
Pretty sure it was the other way around.
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>>155636259
Can you honestly say this about a guy who goes under these hiatuses all the time? He's not even monthly yet everyone acts like he's under some harsh schedule.

If he was actually weekly I'm sure it would be much worse.
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>>155636987
Shut the fuck up, You surely are waiting too for all the fabolous shit he has for us in DC.
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>>155635200
>a hundred times their normal power
It's a multiplier.
But still, the bullshit part of Guy was surviving, I agree.
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>>155637077
Stop the fuckery, I'm just telling the truth. Also if you honestly think it's gonna end, I got some bad news for you.
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>>155636583
Problem is, competent reader-kun, is that A) How could he be in Greed Island to patch up and somehow be on the boat that already departed. Especially when he's trying to kill of the Troupe and B) When can Machi restore destroyed flesh?
How can you claim brain damage if you don't know how long he's been dead? How can you claim power-up if nothing suggests that he did aside from misconstruing the "Nen gets stronger after death" deal?
See what happens when you take the time to think?
>>155636259
Asspulls that he took time and effort to weave into the narrative? I see, that's pretty cool. Almost as if it didn't come out of thin air and was gradually added to the story because what half decent writer wouldn't attempt to add new elements to the story to keep it interesting. But it's an asspull now because who cares.
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>>155637232
FABULOUS THINGS. I KNOW YOU ARE EXCITED TOO
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>>155637147
So it's just a more retarded rip off of the Kaioken right? Damn I just realized that but even if that's the case, Might Guy got his ass ripped up by Obito so I doubt a x100 to his power level would do shit to Boss Sage Madara.
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>>155637370
I mean, Guy landed literally one kick that slowed Madara down for a couple minutes
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>>155637370
Having x100 stats doesn't really make you immune against the bullshittery that the Uchihabois had going on. That's why it's a miracle that Guy could even touch Madara.
Just how many forms of defense and regen did Madara have? Dude was tanky as shit.
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>>155637350
You persistent cunt, if he wanted to kill the Troupe he would need healing in order to be efficient. Machi said it so of course I believe in her.

The foot spring shit and nen bondage on Machi was proof enough. This is that good thinking you was talking about but all this bickering makes you out as a Hunterfag.

You gotta stop this.
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>>155637361
OPM is alot better though. No bullshit and no hiatuses.
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>>155637614
Man, I'm still so butthurt that he didn't let Machi heal him. Fuck that.
I can imagine it's in character but still.
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>>155637501
Even with the bullshit, all Madara had to do was use all the truth seeking balls to defend himself but he was retarded so.
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>>155637688
He should of fucked her at least but she screwed him over with all the cheating and ruses.
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>>155637614
Did you forget when he said he's not gonna fight fair. Being 100% doesn't matter if he's resorting to underhanded guerrilla tactics. And I'm sure you have the scan showing Machi restoring destroyed limbs, right?

Catching her off guard and using a rubber limb as a spring board means power boost? Man, I think you can do better than that.
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>>155634057
>Also were talking about bullshit that happened so Naruto is obviously relevant.
No we were talking about FGT and The Heart
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>>155584631
To be fair, everyone was doing that.
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>>155638195
I forgot to say it takes 6 minutes for a brain to start dying so I'm sure they took there time since they thought he died. If he is so sure he can win without being healed than that's a fucking power boost. Machi is best girl so I'm sure she could do it, I mean why would she lie?

Residual nen, spring foot, the way he fucked up Gameboy, and nen arm props is proof. I'm doing better than you could ever imagine, try harder.
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>>155638349
A conversation always drifts to other things that relate to the topic my man.
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>>155617602

1. Scion was not the last one alive, there are others still living out there, Abaddon, the third entity that traded shards with Eden, Scion waifu, is still alive and well. Scion could just enter hibernation and hope that another entity would come to complete the cycle with him.

>Weaver's powerup was fair, as the medical girl triggered her second awakening

Weavers powerup was literally asspull so the author could make her relevant, Cauldron searched for years for a way to disable the limit of powers on each shard, Cauldron was even willing to kidnap, torture, brainwash and kill thousands of human beings if it meant powers without limits to fight Scion, and they never succeeded after decades of trying.

Then Panacea comes and disables weaver limitations easily in 5 seconds, this is bullshit because Panacea is a natural trigger, her shard came from Scion and still is full of limitations placed there by Scion himself, panacea cannot even heal herself for example, and Scion, no matter how much the fandom likes to believe he is stupid, would never allow a shard that can disable the limits of other shards to be used by humans without that shard being crippled first.
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