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Anyone still use CCCP? Looks like it's been abandoned.

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Anyone still use CCCP? Looks like it's been abandoned.
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Because codec packs are fucking useless these days. If you're on windows mpc has lav filters built in. Better yet mpv, which is much better, is compiled with ffmpeg so it plays literally any file format ever.
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>2017
>still using codecs pack
Embarrassing.
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Manual installation of MPC-HC, xysubfilter and MadVR is the default /a/ setup now. Codec packs like CCCP and KCP can create playback problems later on that manual installation of the above won't. CCCP and KCP were made obsolete the moment MPC-HC started including LAV Filters in the default install.
Don't listen to mpv shills; it's not as good at upscaling and it's lazily designed (no config GUI).
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Last time I downloaded a Codec pack was, like, 2013?

I just use one of those Pro apps on my phone now. Don't remember which one.

Yes, I watch my anime on my phone.
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>codec packs
Damn, it's 2005 all over again
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>>155281953
Fuck off shill.
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>>155281922
I've been away for quite some time now ;_;
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>>155281953
I remember that stuff used to be tedious to install. I'm guessing with LAV built in now it's more simple?
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>>155282227
Install MPC-HC first. Then download xysubfilter and MadVR. xysubfilter and MadVR are both incredibly easy to install: extract both to their own, new, permanent folder, then right click the included installation .bat and select run as administrator to install.
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>>155281953
>no GUI means lazy design

This is what wangblows users really believe.
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>>155281953
if you need a gui to know how to configure your shit you probably shouldn't be configuring shit.
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>>155282227
Just use mpv, it's madvr+lav+vsfilter out of the box. The only thing different is that instead of a menu you just have to copy and paste a text file for configuration.
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I just use LAV Filters Megamix. Includes xysubfilter, MadVR and the lots in one installation package.
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This is a reminder that MadVR is now much better at upscaling than mpv: http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/198486
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>>155282292
Jesus Christ I can't believe it's that easy. It really feels like I didn't make a difference.
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>>155282375
>ave to copy and paste a text file for configuration.
What
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>>155282446
>comparing NGU to ewa_lanczossharp
Are you stupid?
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>>155281953
Remember when the default /a/ setup was CCCP+CoreAVC?
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MPC is fine. It doesn't need extra stuff.
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>>155282446
>>155281953
thing is if youre using linux theres no other alternative to mpv

after using mpcHC for so long its hard getting used to it
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>>155282446
Literally no difference
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>>155282518
>using Linux
>for a multimedia desktop PC
I guess that's OK if you really don't care about audio and video quality.
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>>155282446
>comparing two completely different scalers and calling the better one better
Wow how can mpv even compete? It's bilinear scaler isn't even as good as madVR's jinc!
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Post mpv configs.
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>>155282569
>>155282446
Literally zero difference other than sub.
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>>155282569
There's a significant difference. Look at Kanna's top horn while mousing out/over. Also, make sure nothing like noscript is running in your browser on that website or it'll always look like no difference because it won't work right.
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>>155282589
NGU is the best upscaling algorithm available for either media player right now. NGU is not available for mpv. That's the point. MadVR is better at upscaling than mpv right now because it has NGU and mpv does not.
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>>155282591
#Default
profile=opengl-hq
scale=ewa_lanczossharp
cscale=ewa_lanczossoft
tscale=catmull_rom
tscale-clamp
blend-subtitles=yes
opengl-pbo
interpolation
deband-iterations=2
deband-threshold=128
#opengl-fbo=rgba32f
hwdec=no
video-sync=display-resample
autofit=50%
osc=no

Mine is pretty simple, i don't use any advanced scalers.
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>>155282591
[code]# Video
vo=opengl
profile=opengl-hq
opengl-backend=dxinterop
opengl-shaders="~~/shaders/KrigBilateral.glsl,~~/shaders/SSimSuperRes.glsl"
hwdec=auto-copy
scale=catmull_rom
scale-param2=0.75
cscale=bilinear # No diference due to KrigBilateral, lower the frame timing.
deband-grain=16
deband-iterations=2
deband-range=12
deband-threshold=48
video-sync=display-resample

# Audio
ao=wasapi
audio-channels=auto
audio-pitch-correction=no
volume=100
volume-max=100

# Window
autofit-larger=90%x90%
autofit-smaller=40%x40%
geometry=50%:50%
force-window=immediate
keep-open

# On screen display
no-osd-bar
osd-font="Source Sans Pro"
osd-font-size=42
osd-color="#FFFFFFFF"
osd-border-size=2
osd-border-color="#CC333333"
osd-shadow-offset=1
osd-shadow-color="#33000000"

# Subtitles
sub-auto=fuzzy
sub-ass-force-style=Kerning=yes
sub-ass-style-override=force
demuxer-mkv-subtitle-preroll=yes
sub-font="Source Sans Pro"
sub-font-size=56
sub-color="#FFFFFFFF"
sub-border-color="#CC333333"
sub-border-size=2
sub-shadow-offset=1
sub-shadow-color="#33000000"
sub-spacing=0

# Screenshot
screenshot-format=jpg
screenshot-jpeg-quality="100"
screenshot-png-compression=0
screenshot-png-filter=0
screenshot-tag-colorspace=yes
screenshot-template="%F - [%P]"

# Playback/Track
alang=jpn,jp,ja
slang=jpn,jp,ja,eng,en
no-resume-playback
no-taskbar-progress

# Other
msg-module
term-osd-bar
ytdl
ytdl-format=(bestvideo[vcodec=vp9]/bestvideo[height<=1440]/bestvideo[fps>30])+(bestaudio[acodec=opus]/bestaudio)/best[/code]
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>>155281953
I installed CCCP years ago (clicking Next/OK/Whatever) and forgot all about it. It just works.
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>>155282663
The only thing stopping mpv from implementing NGU is a licensing thing with the algorithm. I love how everyone thinks madshi is sitting in his room somewhere thinking of these amazing novel scalers to put in madVR. There are reference implementations all over the internet.
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>>155282788
OK. When mpv gets NGU then it'll be a viable alternative to MadVR for Windows users. Until then, it's not. NGU is particularly adept at upscaling lineart, which is perfect for anime viewers.
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>>155282663
>oil paint filter
Keep telling yourself it is good
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>>155282869
Yeah, it's good at lineart just like warpsharp was, kys doom9 memer
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>>155281842
Literally no one unironically since forever.
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>>155282869
>NGU is particularly adept at upscaling lineart, which is perfect for anime viewers.
This is the same fucking thing people said about waifu2x before realizing the algorithm is complete shit. Neural network upscalers like NGU, waifu2x, and NNEDI3 are a fucking meme. Congrats you found ONE image where NGU looks better than an algorithm that renders frames an order of magnitude faster. I don't want to buy a god damn 1080 to watch chinese cartoons.
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>>155282512
I do.

I even remember when anime was all about VxiD and I downloaded it from Kazaa.
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>>155281842
I still use it on my PC.
My note has mpv though.
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>>155282998
NGU medium works just fine/fast on my old-ass R9 270x / FX 6300. It also still looks better than any other algorithm even on medium.
mpv is a worthy choice for toasters, though, I'll admit that.
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>>155281842
I do but I never update cause it just werks.

What is /a/'s current meme player?
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>>155282998
Waifu2x looks good here.
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>>155281922
Fuck you. I still use codecs because wmp won't play files without it. I use mpc whenever I can, but sometimes it doesn't play the audio of a movie I want, and I don't always feel like playing with the settings until I get it.
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>>155281842
>2017
>using CCCP

RealPlayer has served me well since 1999, I see no reason to upgrade.
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>>155283220
>wmp
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>>155283220
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>>155281842
Its not abandoned, most updates are beta releases.

Also there is no need to update it.
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>>155283220
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>>155283087
>mpv is a worthy choice for toasters, though, I'll admit that.
Particularly because it performs better than madVR. I'm glad you noticed.
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>>155282576
Go fuck yourself. Win10 is a joke and you can't stay on Win7 forever. Arch masterrace
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>>155282509
what the fuck did you just say?
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CCCP is only one who supports 10bit format so it allows you to watch audio 1MB/s in bluray resolution.
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>>155281842
Still use it. Never had a problem with it.
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>>155283527
Gotta watch out for that rotational velocidensity though man.
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>>155282576
Which is why it's sad that linux is the best multimedia solution that exists. Windows is just garbage since 8. I keep a VM for photoshop and vidya but otherwise it's fucking worthless. Linux has come pretty far.
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Can you use xysubfilter on phone media player?
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>>155281953
>Codec packs like CCCP and KCP can create playback problems later on that manual installation of the above won't.
Yeah. no.
I've been using CCCP since it first came out so many years ago, and the one thing it has never done is 'create playback problems'. It works fine; it's always worked fine, and myguess is that it always will for as long as they (pretty much annually) update it.
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>>155283685
Most non-shit players will have libass built in.
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CCCP still works for me. I don't see a reason to change it.
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>>155281842
i just use mpchc and k-lite
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CCCP for life. Or at least until something comes out that is noticeably better, not subtle bordering on placebo.
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what a good mkv player for ipad mini?
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>>155284188
>ipad mini?

The garbage bin
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>>155283684
>linux is the best multimedia solution that exists
MadVR is better for video than mpv for capable PCs and Windows has far more options with regards to audio software.
>Windows is just garbage since 8
8 is still fine to use unless you need the latest DirectX for something. Also, if it's W10's spyware you're worried about, I hope you don't think your router and firewall aren't compromised, silly goose.
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>>155281842
I still use it and can't see any problems with new anime. Maybe nothing has changed in the last year and a half that is worth pushing a new update for.
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>>155284542
>MadVR is better for video than mpv for capable PCs
I don't know where you're getting that baseless claim from, besides a few differences madVR and mpv have basically the same scalers. Technically mpv has a lot more since they allow for custom shaders to be used.

>Windows has far more options with regards to audio software.
WASAPI, ASIO and what else? Granted audio on linux is a shitshow, it still for the most part "just werks".

>Also, if it's W10's spyware you're worried about, I hope you don't think your router and firewall aren't compromised, silly goose.
Sorry that I think it's unacceptable for an operating system's default configuration to be to send telemetry data back to microsoft. Furthermore you'd have to block outgoing TCP/UDP connections to completely stop the spying as it is on a random port with a hardcoded IP so that "viruses can't interfere with DNS". Aka: Microsoft doesn't want you turning it off no matter what.

Or maybe you're implying that my router and firewall are compromised at an OS level? Even then you'd be wrong because I use pfsense.
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What do you guys use to watch your rmvbs? I find real player works the best.
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>still using Windows for anything besides video games or design software
Seriously?
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>>155284542
>if one thing is compromised I should let everything else be compromised too
very retarded logic
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>>155286227
I'm not going to bother with Linux just to watch anime and browse /a/.
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>>155286736
I think you have it backwards. Why bother with windows bullshit just to use the internet and watch videos? Get a free OS that doesn't fucking inject ads everywhere.
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>>155286805
Japanese erotic video games and design software.
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>>155286805
linux is for servers, not hipsters
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>>155287301
It's 2017. Everything is done through a web browser. Your OS doesn't matter, so stop sending your money to M$ so they can whore you out by selling your data.
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>>155285993
Your CPU, router and firewall are likely compromised at a hardware level, not an OS level.
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>>155287343
> Everything is done through a web browser
Somebody doesn't play vidya.
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>>155287343
yeah let google whore you out instead
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>>155281842

I still use it.

it just works.
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>>155287452
I use startpage and duckduckgo
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>>155287471
Browser?
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I prefer mpc. I like smplayer but taiga doesn't work with it so I dropped it and went back.

Mpv being so bare bones and config driven turns me off on my windows system desu
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>>155281842
I still use it. Everything still plays, so if it ain't broke, don't fix it.
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>>155281842
Use K-Lite
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Why is upscaling still a thing in 2017?
Why can't we go back to non-fixed pixel display technology?

Why is the display industry so fucking stupid?
Fucking worthless bunch of niggers keep making displays shittier than CRT's...fucking pathetic
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>>155281953
Can you explain MadVR and xysubfilter? Tried checking the sites but I still don't understand it.

Can you explain it to me like the retard I am?
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>>155289119
>Why can't we go back to non-fixed pixel display technology?
Space, power/efficiency, visual quality

CRTs suck for everything other than latency.
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>>155289119
>>155289387
Also CRTs have fixed pixels too. How do you think the phosphors work?
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I'm still using cccp.

Is there really any point in changing? What should I change to if there's something better?
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>>155281842
mpv on linux, MPC-HC on Windows.

But it's been like half a year since I booted Windows to do anything serious with it, so I don't remember what MPC's playback looks like anymore.
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>>155281842
So what? It still works.
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>>155281842
Codec packs are rendered obsolete by the fact that almost every player these days already ships with a powerful library such as libav built in.
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>>155287438
I already said that vidya is the only thing you need windows for, and even then you just need a second GPU and you can do that in a VM too.

I haven't used windows on bare metal in like 4 years, best decision I ever made.
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>>155290351

which player do you use anon?
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>>155289220
madvr lessens stuff like banding (lines on the screen that make it look like shit) and xysubfilter makes subs look better.
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>>155290428
mpv

It never failed me, at least on Linux.
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>>155290524
madvr is the rendering backend for mpc-hc, since the default renderer on mpc-hc is literal horseshit and vlc-tier. madVR provides a ton of high quality scaling algorithms and filters either fix problems with sources or properly upscale them to the monitor you're viewing.

xysubfilter is basically vsfilter and it's the library used to render .ass subtitles. So if you want styling you need it.
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>>155290686
I meant to reply to >>155289220
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codec packs aren't necessary anymore, mpv is more than enough
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Do /a/ still hate MacOS?
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>>155290974
We're not on /g/. I use a macbook as my daily driver, but linux for everything else, including my desktop. Unix is Unix. Apple sucks but macOS isn't completely cucked like iOS is, you get root and you can install/change whatever you want.
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>>155282761
Same.
I didn't even bother to check for updates or anything. Ironically, few days ago mpc started acting up but turns out it was AMD's dumb driver fault
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how do i into madvr config? any guides?
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There is no need to touch what still works perfectly fine.
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>>155291068
I think full screen exclusive mode is on by default, but if it's not, turn it on. (rendering > general settings)

Turn on debanding or deringing if you need it, like if you're watching HorribleSubs. (processing > artifact removal)

Turn on smooth motion if your computer can handle it. (rendering > smooth motion)

You shouldn't need to fuck with the scaling algorithms unless you have a powerful GPU.
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>>155291654
i have a powerful gpu. teach me how to upscale senpai
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>>155283597
ROTATIONAL VELOCIRAPTORS
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>>155291068
https://imouto.my/tutorials/madvr/
I used this to config the first time, then just trial and error.
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>xysubfilter
>last updated on 16 Oct 2015
Really?
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>>155293637
There's nothing to update. It works.
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>>155293657
So just like CCCP. Alright.
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>>155282591
screenshot-template="vlcsnap-%tY-%tm-%td-%tHh%tMm%tSs%03n"

You're welcome.
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>>155293721
Asshole.
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>>155281915
>much better
>ffmpeg
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>>155282591
Part of my input.conf, some anon might appreciate it:

# debanding keybinds
F1 cycle-values deband-iterations 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9
F2 cycle-values deband-threshold 16 24 32 40 48 56 64 72 80
F3 cycle-values deband-range 20 16 14 12 10 8 6 4 2
F4 cycle-values deband-grain 8 24 40 56 72 96
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MPC-HC was updated recently. Download that shit niggas
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>>155281842
I've been using KCP since the last release, however many years ago that was now. I'll keep on using it until it simply doesn't play video files.
>>155283352
>you can't stay on Win7 forever
I can, because I watch all of my anime on a W7 HTPC with no network connection instead of wasting my fucking time trying to get meme player /v/ to do as good of a job.
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>>155283352
>and you can't stay on Win7 forever.
I'm going to try.
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MPC + k-lite + madvr
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I only use Crunchyroll.
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>>155282591
I just have this shit, I cannot into computer.
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>>155283352
>Win10 is a joke

It's really not that bad of an OS if you put a minimal amount of work into it. Make your own install media with all the bullshit stripped out and install classic shell mostly. If you don't want to support the business practices it's easy enough to pirate.

If you're putting less work than that into setting up your linux install you shouldn't be on linux.
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First I installed madvr + xysubfilter but I couldn't get subs to show on screenshots, so I uninstalled them and installed KCP. It just works.
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>>155283352
Win8.
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>>155290974
>rock-solid UNIX
>mainstream developer support

Truly the best of both worlds.
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>>155281953
>MPC-HC, xysubfilter and MadVR
MadVR isn't really necessary, since it requires a decent computer with an okay GPU to run, but yeah, that's pretty much true.
Fuck you for shittalking mpv, though. I set it up on my 2006-tier laptop in less than a minute and it plays stuff way better than MPC-hc does on it. mpv works way better on old computers than mpc-hc does. I use MPC-hc (without MadVR) on my desktop because it's slightly easier to use , and it's more powerful, so I don't notice any of the stutters I have on my laptop.
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>>155282591
>memepv'
/g/ please
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>>155296841
>xysubfilter
>no subs
Try xy-VSFilter then. There's not much noticeable difference.
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>>155297207
Why? KCP works just fine. Don't fix something that isn't broken.
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>>155297318
Codec packs are rather prone to having old components, and it's not like it's hard to set up MPC-hc in the first place.
>installing MPC-hc
>running a .bat file
>changing a couple of settings (takes seconds)
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>>155297409
Except when you spend 2 hours fucking with the settings and not getting the subs to work with screenshots. What does the new versions of the components improve over the versions from a few years ago?
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>>155297502
And I told you to switch to xy-VSFilter, which takes seconds to install.
>What does the new versions of the components improve over the versions from a few years ago?
Anime, especially on the fansubbing front, tends to be rather experimental in comparison to the "scene" releases of western TV shows. Anime releases have been using .mkv and hi10p for god knows how long. Hell, there's even a switch to x265 being made recently.
The western "scene" releases only switched to .mkv recently, and the little 10bit releases out there cause many, many playback problems for them, just like ~2011's /a/. Having the "latest and greatest" ensures that you'll have almost no playback problems compared to older versions.
If you do watch HS releases and normal movies there likely won't be much of a noticeable difference, though.
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How can you autists be okay with installing, setting up, and updating mpc-hc, madvr, xyvsfilter, reclock, lavfilters and whatever else shit I missed, but typing in a few lines for an mpv config is somehow too hard?
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User-side content creation on PCs and the internet is dying a slow death anyway. Enjoy your locked app marketplace hell.
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>>155297760
I don't know shit about encoding, so I may have just said a load of bullshit, but I do know that anime is at the forefront of encoding technology, since people who watch anime (especially /a/) tend to be more technology-savvy on average.
They won't have problems installing or updating certain software. On "scene" releases, the switch would millions of techology-illiterate people who "just want to watch a movie" explode in anger. There was a similar thing on /a/, too, but it all dissipated after people noticed the benefits.
>hurrrrr why did you switch to x264, xvid was working great
>I can't play
>fuck youuuuuuuuuuu for using that .mkv shit
>10-bit lags
>how the fuck do you play this shit
You could argue that the lack of communication was also at fault, and that might indeed be true, but normal people just don't want to fuck around with player settings, so even if there was a guide, they likely wouldn't use it. They just want to come back from work and download a movie/tv show, they don't want to bother setting up shit.

>installing
Takes seconds.
>setting up
4 minute tops, you do it once and you never really touch it again.
>updating
Least of your worries.

>mpc-hc, madvr, xyvsfilter, reclock, lavfilters
MPC-hc

You don't really lose anything if you run a months-old version. In fact, a lot of people that didn't know that the nightlies existed ran v1.7.10, a version that's 1 year and a couple-of-months old, and they reported no playback problems, because there haven't really been any large shifts in the technology recently.
>madVR
Not really necessary, unless you really, really care about your quality, and have a computer that can handle it.
>xyVSFilter/xy-Subfilter
Those don't really get updated often, so updating them is the least of your worries.
>reclock
Not really needed; same thing as MadVR - you can play anime without it
>lavfilters
Built-in in MPC-hc since 2013.

>configuration
continued in the next post
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>>155298349
the second half of the post was aimed at >>155297878

MPC-hc is rather easy to set up, because you get all of your available options on a list view, and you don't have to trawl through that PDF file in order to see what options you have. It saves time.

I use mpv myself on my laptop, and I don't really find setting it up hard, but think about it from the perspective of the average person. They're more likely to prefer clicking on a set value in a list view rather than typing their configuration. Yes, there are various mpv config files floating around the internet, but if they happen to not work correctly, for them it means that you have to "get dirty" and edit certain values until it works as it should.
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>still using winshit post Snowden, assange etc
You gotta be fucking idiotic
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>>155298619
I just like my vidya.
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>>155281842

So, how you even fix the "cannot render file" error?
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>>155298665
Get a console or use wine
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>>155298619
I have certain software that just requires Windows, and even if I managed to get GNU/Linux working properly. my computer is too weak to run a VM properly. Hell, I don't even think that GNU/Linux has decent support for VIA chipsets, because I tried running Lubuntu a while ago and it ran like shit.
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>>155298787
Wine is not a VM you excuse making retard. It's not even an emulator. It's a replication of the windows API in Linux. There is no excuse.
And i know some fucking /a/ faggot doesn't do anything interesting enough that he uses a feature in software that can't also be found on Linux.
And yes Via chipsets are supported just fine, are you dumb? Why would Linux not support a well-known chipset?
Next time just go with Ubuntu not lubuntu unless you have less than 1.5gb ram
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>>155298944
I have 512 megabytes of ram, that's why I went straight to Lubuntu. #! got abandoned, and I don't really trust those community continuations to head in the right path. Hell, they might quit just as abruptly, too.

Maybe I should go with Debian testing and get OpenBox looking like #! did, because it looked great. And I don't have to worry about things being dropped.
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>>155299125
>community continuations to head in the right path
Bunsenlabs is actually a really good distro, I've used it on some old netbooks. They're definitely keeping the spirit of #! alive.
But is just a prericed debian. Even if it died, you could just keep on using it with debian.

Strange you had issues with lubuntu though.
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>>155281915
Or if you're a scrub just install VLC.
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>>155299125
Anon wtf are you doing with less than 1gb

But yes Debian testing + openbox would do the job

One thing not many Linux people to you is it's best to go outside of the major distributions, that's

Debian
Ubuntu
Fedora

Fuck the rest including arch and gentoo
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>>155299374
It's best *not* to, fucking typo
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/a/ - video """"""""""conoisseurs"""""""""""""
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>>155299374
>Fuck the rest including arch and gentoo
"I don't know what the fuck I'm talking about" the post
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>>155299394
there are more grammitcal errors anon.. I-I had to read it a couple of times to understand what you are saying
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>>155299241
Could it be that I simply haven't gotten the updated drivers and that I've been running on generic ones (I'm not really well versed in GNU/Linux, so I don't know if that's even a thing). How can I test whether I have hardware acceleration working or not?
I remember the OS downloading some updates and installing them, by the way.

Anime ran worse than it did on XP - I used SMPlayer; in hindsight that might've been a mistake, but mpv wasn't really out then.
Web browsers, such as Chromium and Firefox didn't run all that satisfyingly, either. Opening more than 3 (/a/) tabs in either of them wasn't a pleasant experience.
It looked like a pleasant OS to use, but the way it ran steered me away from GNU/Linux for a while.
I did that all around 2013, by the way. I'm ready to give it another go.

>>155299483
Shove those quotation marks up your ass.
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>>155299574
I'm interested in getting things done, not wanking over millisecond optimizations or muh GPL

The most practical Linuxes by far are the ones I mentioned
>>155299586
Okay sorry but I have done this shit for about 12 years so I know what I'm talking about unlike the pajeet arch user
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>>155299663
>I'm interested in getting things done, not wanking over millisecond optimizations or muh GPL
Thanks for proving my point.
I use debian and ubuntu, but if you don't understand why arch and gentoo have certain pros and usecases, then yes you don't understand shit
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>>155299642
Drivers don't need to be installed at all (maybe the GPU ones but there are reasons for that), the concept of drivers is very different.
If you are on Ubuntu, there is an easy way to check if you are in hw accel land, just open the GPU driver utility and it will tell you.
Use mpv, correct.
Web browsers, ff is good enough these days. Enable multithreading in the new release with a simple config change.

I use Ubuntu 16.10 and would recommend it.

Things might run worse than XP but think of it as trading a small performance loss for security and privacy. Ubuntu will not track your shit (inb4 <15.04) and it is stable and will let you do a lot more things than watch Chinese cartoons.
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>>155299796
Let's hear them then
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>>155299805
I recall that something called Wubi existed - could I temporarily install Lubuntu/Debian testing on a separate partition and try them out? Also, is there any performance loss compared to a "native" install?
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Yes, it just werks.
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>>155281915
>mpv, which is much better
Yeah no, installing/setup will be a pain to most.
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>>155299923
No, wubi is long dead and it's far better to just not dual boot. Keep a XP disk handy if it's too painful, because we've all been there. It gets better though. I fully switched back in 2014 and the system has only improved since then. (I've used it alongside Windows since 2005 though)
>>155300029
Not really. A minimum of configuration which they can get from mpv.io or /g/ and it's fine
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>>155299835
I'm not gonna give a detailed response, do your own reading but in short:

>gentoo
When space and resources matter. The regular packages in binary distros often have a ton of dependencies because all the various features that are pre-enabled. With gentoo you can specify which features you do or don't want with use flags.

>arch
Probably the most stable binary rolling-release distro, and it sticks very close to vanilla upstream.
It makes for a good development environment.
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>>155300029
Not him, but it's worth it, especially if you have an old computer.
I run the following config on my older computer and it does pretty well. It even runs slightly better than MPC-hc.

vo=direct3d (openGL runs like ass)
softvol=no
ass-force-margins=no
sub-use-margins=no
hwdec=auto
Also, what >>155300095 said. You can get help with the configs with experienced anons. And let me remind you - you set this up ONCE and you never touch it again, unless you want to change stuff like the subtitles' font and size, or your video output.
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>>155300095
>Not really. A minimum of configuration which they can get from mpv.io or /g/ and it's fine
The videoplayer can't even switch audio output without skipping frames or a lua script, and if you don't have the lua script you have to close the current session and change it via command line, by doing some bullshit.

default input conf is a joke as well
>>155300181
>And let me remind you - you set this up ONCE and you never touch it again
Depends, it's mostly the same as mpc-hc/potplayer, but even worst since you have to close and than open the player every time you edit a setting on the config file and there is no "restart" keybind.
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>>155298619
>>still using winshit post Snowden, assange etc
>You gotta be fucking idiotic
You'd better get off technology all together in that case, no smart phone, no internet. This is 2017, fully 16 years in to the 'war on terror' and the only excuse the govt needs to track and monitor who ever they want when ever they want.
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>>155298740
>delusional enough to believe the consoles don't spy on people
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Isn't the question rather, if anyone is still using Windows?

I have not for the last ~4 years.
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I was told Mint is decent for linux newfags, if that is true I might put it on my old laptop until I figure out how to actually use linux.
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>>155300392
>old laptop
How old, exactly?
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>>155300302
mpv has a cycle-values option that lets you change audio-output, scalers, and most other options on the fly without having to restart.
See >>155294126 for some examples.
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>>155300416
About 4 years I think. I forget the specs but it's fairly decent.
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>>155300392
Mint is decent. It's build on the extremely solid and widely supported Ubuntu-base without the bullshit the people over there have been pulling recently.
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>>155300392
>>155300481
Mint (or rather, Cinnamon) looks great out of the box and has nice defaults. But for an old laptop, I'd suggest Xubuntu (with XFCE). It looks uglier out of the box, but it's lighter, more customizable, and arguably more functional.

This belongs on /g/ though desu.
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>>155300481
2012-2012 doesn't sound that "old", to be honest. Mint would likely run really well on it.
I have a laptop from 2006 and that's acceptably running Windows 7 (albeit without Aero); I should probably give GNU/Linux a try eventually, too. Only thing I'm worried (I'm the VIA chipset guy from above) is the driver support, and especially, the wireless connectivity.

Would the various fn shortcuts (e.g. brightness, wifi toggle on-off) work? How about the volume buttons?
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>>155300430
>mpv has a cycle-values option that lets you change audio-output
Now try getting the codes for the audio outputs in a easy and than setup the keybind
>scalers, and most other options on the fly without having to restart
You do have to restart unless you are using a keybind for it.
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>>155300595
>Now try getting the codes for the audio outputs in a easy and than setup the keybind
I'm not sure what you mean by this. By audio output, you mean the output device yes?
That can be easily be done in mpv.
https://mpv.io/manual/master/#options-audio-device
https://mpv.io/manual/master/#command-interface-cycle-values

>You do have to restart unless you are using a keybind for it.
Yes, a cycle-value option is bound to a key allowing you to change whatever config parameter without having to restart.
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>>155281953
>Manual installation of MPC-HC, xysubfilter and MadVR is the default /a/ setup now
Okay, I just did it. Now how do I take screenshots with subtitles? It doesn't work.
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>>155301007
xy-vsfilter
You don't really need MadVR, either.
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>>155281842
I still use the old version of it even.
It plays everything, what else do you fucking need.
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>>155281842
Downloaded this one a long time ago and used the annexed MPC-HC to play my stuff and to this day it still works so I see no need to move to other things. Haven't had any problems in terms of playback yet so until that starts to happen I'll use it.
That said, has there been any significant updates to both "recently"? Would like to extend the playback ability as much as I could with the less effort possible.
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>>155301007
I had that trouble for quite a while and found out it was a problem with madVR rendering subtitle. Try using madVR0896 and xysubfilter b3 and the subtitle will appear. Any other version of madVR after 0.89 won't show subtitle in screenshot for some reason at least on my end.
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>>155301157
>xy-vsfilter
This solved the problem. Thanks anon.
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>>155300566
I'll probably just run it off a flashdrive for a while. Things like drivers and all that stuff are still mostly a mystery to me, I don't know what I would need or where to download them and would likely just be googling things until I either fucked up or got it right.
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>>155301203
>inb4 someone sets up a subgroup that makes use of exploits in CCCP and installs encryption trojans

Never ever fucking use out-of-date software on anything even remotely touching the Internet.
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>>155301203
It's not 2008 anymore, anon. Uninstall it and set up MPC-hc with xy-vsfilter; it's that fucking easy. All you have to update afterwards is MPC-hc occasionally
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>>155299374
If you have very little RAM, ArchLinux will help you a lot. If I remember correctly, a base Arch installation with lxqt takes about 100 MB of ram, whereas a base Lubuntu installation takes like 250 MB.

Contrary to what some people tell you, the only "difficult" thing about Arch is installation process (And it's literally a small handful of commands). Once you get past that, it's as easy to use as any other distro, and I'd argue in some ways easier.

You will benefit from the rolling release cycle which will give you upgrades sometimes MONTHS earlier than you get them with Ubuntu (Not even joking there), and often weeks before many other distros.

The official repositories are fairly comprehensive and generally have excellent quality, and if something isn't in the official repository, or you want an altered version, then the AUR (Arch User Repository) contains a huge collection of building recipes (called PKGBUILDs) that automatically build installable packages for you for a wide variety of programs with a single command (and no arguments). Once you experience that luxury, you're gonna have a hard time going back to any other distro.

Arch's documentation is comprehensive, to-the-point, and easy to navigate. You probably won't have to ask people questions 99% of the time if you create a search bookmarklet for it in your browser.

You will find people who give you a false impression that the Arch community is unhelpful. The will help you like any other community as long as your question does not sound like "I don't know how to type the program's name in the wiki's search box and skim through the page for a minute to find the obvious answer." And even then, they will give you the link to the relevant article, so at least you'll find your way.
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>>155299279
There is literally nothing wrong with VLC
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>>155301353
I tried that version but it still doesn't work without xy-vsfilter for me.
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>>155301878
Did you try setting the subtitle resolution to follow the video in xysubfilter setting?
Not that it matter but sometimes xy-vsfilter is being a shitters when I try to play something over my projector.
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>>155290974
Mplayer Extended for mac is actually way up there with MPC. A little easier to use and configure properly, less screen tearing out of the box. But i guess you can't tweak it as much. Give it a try, best Mac player out there. No reason to hate MacOS anymore.
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>>155281953
Whelp, guess it's time to uninstall that final version of KCP.
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>>155282103
Let me guess, jail?
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>>155302304
I think you mean iina anon.
https://lhc70000.github.io/iina/features/
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How do you even make playlists in MPV without importing them?
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Realplayer is fine
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>>155302610
Elaborate. You can open a directory in mpv and it'll automatically load all the contents of the directory in a playlist.
There's also scripts like autoload that scan the directory contents and add them automatically.
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>>155302699
I keep all my current airing shows in a single folder. In MPHC on the bottom and ctrl+L in VLC I can drag each episode into whatever order I want to watch them in 1 by 1. With MPV I have to use something else to create a .pls. Adding directories isn't feasible because it messes with watch order.
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>>155302791
Yeah, there's no way to do that in vanilla mpv afaik. You could probably make a script for it, but it would be easier to use a frontend like smplayer or mpc-qt.
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>>155300302
>The videoplayer can't even switch audio output without skipping frames or a lua script, and if you don't have the lua script you have to close the current session and change it via command line, by doing some bullshit.
"I have never used mpv before", the post. You can use the on screen controller to switch audio if you're too retarded to remember that # cycles audio tracks.
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