http://www.strawpoll.me/12599189
2get
>>154982037
>no naruto
>>154982037
one of these shows has a very large, very obnoxious vocal fanbase on /a/ about how it's the greatest show ever,ever since it aired gee I wonder which show will have the most votes
>>154982549
Star Driver?
What was the best sakuga of the 00s? Redline?
>Fate
>sakuga
Is this bait?
>>154982681
Either some Ghibli shit, whatever Satoshi Kon did or Steam Boy
>>154982549
Mob Psycho 100?
Definitely Mob but since Im a Kyoanus licker ill vote for Nichikino
It's not sakuga if it's not KyoAni.
>>154982549
Nichijou?
>>154982739
>Ghibli shit
>superior to the film composed of frames hand-drawed 10000 times over the course of seven fucking years
>>154982816
Except that it doesn't have a vocal fanbase.
>Literally every second of KyoAni anime is sakuga
>thus by definition, literally every second of KyoAni anime is simultaneously sakuga and not sakuga
>>154982037
Explain to me why One Punch Man, a show literally built around sakuga, is not on this list.
Wow when I saw those choices I was expecting the worst but it looks like /a/ decided to use it's brain today.
>>154982978
This season was the ultimate proof that animation quality is not important.
>>154982901
The whining threads I keep seeing asking why it flopped and all the normalfags acting like it's god's gift to Japanese animation tells me otherwise.
>>154982037
Flip Flappers had occasional sakuga, but where it actually excelled was the background.
>>154983093
Animation quality was never important, but it is a nice thing to have.
>>154982549
Flip Flappers?
>>154983013
Non Non Biyori Repeat was both a better anime and a better sakuga anime than One Punch Man, which was a bad anime for /v/ with bad animation and bad humor.
Where the fuck is Tesabu you fucking ultimate pleb?
>>154982037
If these are the only sakuga candidates in 6 years anime fucking sucks animation-wise. Specially considering none of them are anything special and have quality drops.
>>154982978
>maidragon barely has any sakuga
>it's still better animated than everything else this season
damn
>>154982037
Where's Naruto? Also had the best visual direction.
>>154982037
what is saguga?
>>154983189
Name a TV anime pre-2010 with better animation than Dandy or Nichijou
>>154982549
Fatefags?
>>154983189
>quality drops
>Nichijou
>>154983233
There will come shitposting once I say this, but actually, LWA has best sakuga this season. Not only it has more than everything but it also is better on quality on its high points.
You may like Maid Dragon all you want but you shouldn't demise other things because of it.
>>154982743
Mob's fanbase is barely vocal, much less large. Threads have been dead for months now.
>>154983372
Is that a correct usage of the word "demise"? Also I agree, it's inconsistent but ultimately more creative.
>>154983269
Started pre-2010s, doesn't count
>Fate garbage
>no Hyouka
>>154982594
How nee
What's the most well-animated laugh?
>>154983113
nichijou is by far the best anime ever made nothing even comes close to the miracle that we have received that is nichijou
>>154983328
Turn A Gundam?
>>154983513
Nichijou > Space Dandy > Mob Psycho > Hyouka >>>> the rest
>>154983113
All the threads I see are mentally retarded people saying Nichibros is better
>>154983372
I agree that its high points are better, but overall it is very hit and miss. Recent episodes are noticeably more static and sloppy.
>>154982037
Do you mean best sakuga in an anime or best anime that used sakuga?
If former then it's Nichijou, if the later then it's Mob Psycho 100.
>>154983686
>best sakuga
This is what the poll says. It does not say "best anime that used sakuga" or "best sakuga anime." It says:
>best sakuga
Thus,
>Do you mean best sakuga in an anime or best anime that used sakuga?
The former.
>no Yozakura Quartet
Is Nichijou kino?
>>154984003
Nope
>>154984003
Nichikino
>>154983952
What did you expect from OP? He's just a faggot.
>>154984003
It is KyoAni, thus it is kino. It would not be kino if it was not industry leaders and /a/'s favorite studio Kyoto Animation.
>>154983465
That's a stupid rule
>>154984003
If forced unfunny comedy is kino, then yes.
>>154984003
How long do I have to wait for them to make another Nichijou-tier sakugafest?
>>154984145
There is Violet Evergarden next year.
>>154984003
forced animation
>>154983425My corrector is retarded, I meant dismiss.
>>154982037
>no ping pong
>>154984145
Violet Evergarden maybe?
It won't be 2 cour, though
>>154984199
is that pedro?
>>154984253
Yes.
>>154984145
Violet Evergarden probably won't be a good show, but it seems to have a lot of effort going into getting it to look nice.
>>154984326
>doubting kyoani magic
The unbelievers never learn.
>>154984195
>looks like it was drawn by dying aborted fetuses
>>154984356
I guess we'll see if Ishidate is really doomed to be a shit series director because he's Kigami's student.
>>154983130
Do actually believe this, or are you just pretending to be stupid? Say what you will about the fanbase or the writing, or the overall aesthetic, you can't deny the amount of skill that went into its sakuga.
It's completely dishonest to ignore this show's fuckton of sakuga simply because you don't like the show itself.
>>154983883
It seems like most people in this thread are treating it as the latter.
>>154983130
>non non shittori
>sakuga
Kill yourselgf
>>154984422
It looks like shit. Deal with it.
>>154984145
>>154984175
>>154984199
>>154984326
Yeah right, you won't get something like Nichijou or Hyouka until Kyoani gets those Kadokawabucks again. Which seems like never at this point.
Fate UBW is the best looking anime of all time so far, people just hate fate and don't vote for it.
>>154982037
New Game has better sakuga than half of these shows.
>>154984585
Doga Kobo is the second best studio behind KyoAni.
>>154984573
>the best looking anime of all time so far
Even you don't actually believe that.
>>154984464
>the discussion is about animation
>posts some random still from a paused sakuga sequence
You do understand what "animation" means, right?
Not art style.
Not character design.
Things moving in an interesting and intricate way. You can take a still from literally ANY animated sequence, from the most detailed work like Redline or Sword of the Stranger, and it will look weird.
>>154984573
>Basic as fuck red/blue color composition
>Low quality ground/sky images used as textures
>Shitty weightless animation
>Bad choreography that looks like it was made by an edgy pre-teen
I know you´re baiting but there are actual retards who believe in Fate, or any UFO anime for that matter, being good looking.
>>154982037
Space Dandy>Nichijou>Mob Psycho 100>Star Driver>Fate/Zero>Flip Flappers>Fate/stay night UBW
>>154983013
It doesn't matter because it lost to Mob Psycho hard anyway.
>train self in computer programming
>write program that moves imagery of feces in an interesting an intricate way
>entire endeavor validated when >>154984747 calls it sakuga
>>154984813
It's still on a completely different plane from Fate/Zero and deserves mention as a standout sakuga anime.
I mean, for fuck's sake, what's remarkable about F/Z is its digital effects, not its sakuga in particular.
>>154984488
Amagi looked like poo
>>154984902
Wow, great argument. If you can animate as well as Yoshimichi Kameda, literally one of the most renowned animators currently in anime, you really should feel validated.
>>154984356
I mean, light novel adaptations man. Statistically speaking, it'll be bad.
What are the top 10 best animated works in the last 7 years?
>>154984933
Amagi was very low key but compared to most other anime, it was decent.
>>154985040
why are people so obsessed with "the decade" or "the last seven years" or whatever?
>>154984933
Even their low tier productions(Tamako, Amagi, Phantom World, Maidragon) look nice.
>>154984786
>Fate/Zero>Flip Flappers
>>154985106
Nigger Phantom World wasnt a low tier production, it was definitelly the best sakuga show of its season and 3rd of 4th of 2016.
>>154983130
>NNB
>Sakuga
>Hyouka not on the list
Look, Hyouka is fucking boring, but in terms of animation and looks it blows everything in this list.
>>154985169
From what i remember f/z's fight had a lot of weight behind them and relied way less on cg than the F/sn one's but maybe im wrong its been a while since I've watched the show
>>154985575
That's an overstatement, but it deserves a spot.
>>154982037
Why use the term "sakuga" when "animation" works just fine.
>>154985703
Secret club.
>>154985637
UBW did a better job animation wise, and Flip Flappers was far better than both.
Zero isn't that impressive when it comes to sakuga. Ufo as a whole gimmick is that their digital post processing looks pretty, not that they have great animation.
>>154985637
Fate relies a lot on the dragon ball style of fighting, with the `so fast you cant see the sword move, just when they clash´, there is definitelly no weight put into the fights. FliFla was the same, though.
>>154985703
Because "sakuga" is a particular kind of animation, it's not just mouth flaps moving or static images sliding around the screen.
>>154985744
>>154985703
Sakuga is animation that stands out, not every second of an anime is sakuga.
>>154985778
>>154985757
diarmuid vs saber had some really good weight behind their movement tho,probably the best fight in the f/sn anime universe in term of animation
>>154985106
>Phantom World
>low tier
https://sakugabooru.com/data/e34a7535a24844b85392abdde7a6e715.mp4
https://sakugabooru.com/data/7dbdd87013ae16dd3d800e87303b3a5d.mp4
https://sakugabooru.com/data/9bc23c376ca75b61542599ae68f0fd53.mp4
https://sakugabooru.com/data/650979e739ae362a34b3ec73775461d4.mp4
>>154985575
>in terms of animation and looks it blows everything in this list
Not it doesn't. It still should be in there though.
where's naruto?
>>154986019
>>154986031
>>154985801
People know that mouth flaps aren't impressive animation so saying animation works just as well and doesn't have the boring twitter clique connotations. Best is already stated in the OP.
"best animation">>>>>"best sakuga"
>>154986051
>>154986072
>>154986031
>>154986051
>>154986019
That´s a movie, I think the poll is for TV anime only, but for movies Kimi no na Wa wins hands down for the 2010s.
>>154986099
>I think the poll is for TV anime only
naruto still wins
In terms of animation, Nichijou.
In terms of production overall, Hyouka.
>>154986124
>>154986099
I see Shinkaifags are so retarded they forget Kaguya and The Wind Rises exist
Top 5 anime kino & sakuga in 2016
1. Mob
2. Flip Flappers
3. Kiznaiver
4. Occultic 9
5. Phantom World
>>154986151
>>154986174
>>154986192
>>154986214
>>154986071
Sasuga sakuga trumps all however.
>>154986233
>>154982037
obviously mp100
>>154986247
>>154985984
Phantom World's animation is honestly really bland, but I like the third one.
>>154986214
>>154986251
>>154986233
>>154986192
These all look good but doesnt really stand a chance against Mob, not only does it have better sakuga but also a more interesting artstyle.
>>154982037
>Fate
What? Those don't even look good.
>>154986266
>>154986071
>Best is already stated in the OP.
"Sakuga" doesn't mean "good animation", though. It mean sequences where there's a lot of fucking animation, which says nothing about how well those sequences are pulled off.
There are sakuga sequences which look like fucking dogshit because the choreography is awful, the shot composition is awkward, or it just looks comically off-model (which might work in a comedy anime like Konosuba, but not in a "serious" action sequence or dramatic scene). Look at any of those infamous Naruto fight scenes where the characters look like fucking squashed potatoes.
To say an anime is "well-animated" is fucking vague and useless since people seem to think animation is the same as artstyle or coloring.
>>154986306
>>154986342
>>154986379
>>154986403
>>154986429
Behold. The very thing that the sakugatwitterfags have always denied, and yet always will exist.
FORCED ANIMATION!
>>154986448
Reminder that Sword Art Online is better animated than Fate
>>154986494
>>154986506
this 2bh
>>154986519
>>154986453
That's what people who speak actual english would call overanimated.
Forced animation is something that literally does not exist except in the sense that an animator was forced to animate something. Which unless Japan is running slave labor studios does not exist.
>>154986594
>>154986294
Not to mention Naruto only has good animation in its films (where good animation is expected) and at rare times in its hundreds of episodes of anime.
Every fucking episode of Mob has great sakuga sequences.
>>154986636
>Not to mention Naruto only has good animation in its films
lel
most of these are from TV
>>154986597
You're now on /a/. Use the correct meme term if you want to fit in.
>>154986691
Did you read the rest of that sentence?
Fucking retard.
>>154986731
sorry that your shitty 12 episode anime (which ripped off naruto's talk no jutsu ending) doesn't have the same quality of animation as the original
>>154982549
Space Dandy?
>>154986814
Nice way to deflect your lack of reading comprehension. Are you even old enough to be browsing this sight?
I'm not even shitting on Naruto per se, just that it's not hard to have standout 3-minute animations when you have hundreds of episodes to work with.
>>154986718
I don't want to fit in with forced animation shitposters.
>>154986997
Then you must go back to the twitter-place.
>>154986987
>sight
the ironing
Needs more kemono friends.
>>154987209
Flip Flappers looked impeccable for most of its run but animation wise I feel like it didn't have that many standout scenes. At least nothing quite as awe-inspiring as the other shows on the list.
>>154987209
What about the 00s?
So, are the sakugadorks all here on /a/ to shill for a bunch of studios while the animejapan event is going so that they can then be invited like that ultimateomegamax-guy?
>>154987352
>dennou coil
>fma:b
>
>>154982037
>tfw only saw MP100
>it's in 1st place
Feels good, but should I watch his other work?
>>154987466
How new.
>>154987209
PutOccultic;Ninein that last space.
>>154984003
Anyone know how to make these?
>>154985035
I really wish they would stop adopting a lot of the mediocre/downright awful shit like Amagi and Phantom World.
We need more stuff from them like Nichijou, Hyouka, Disappearance, Koe no Katachi. Stuff where their great talented staff isn't wasted.
When they work on anime like that they produce some absolutely amazing, heart-moving stuff.
>>154988022
Get a video editor that isnt Movie Maker or iMovie, scale and move the videos around to make that grid, render and then convert the video to webm.
>>154988048
They have to adapt Phantom Turds to buy stuff like Koe no Katachi, Hibikeks, and Maidragon
>>154982893
Well nobody was talking about plot here, I think we can all agree no Miyazaki/Ghibli/Steamboy or Redline movie has a plot worth shit.
>>154983269
also had a great fucking soundtrack, same with Bleach. Pierrot really knows how to conceive a serious story.
>>154988127
Cannot wait for thsi episode.
>>154988048
K-On! is mediocre / downright awful, and the adaptation is fantastic. I agree though, in general, but that applies to literally all studios.
>>154982037
Remove F/Z and add Yozakura Quartet and OPM.
>>154987209
Add one punch
>>154990389
Perfect
>>154990389
>No Guilty Crown, Shingeki no Kyojin, Madoka
>>154982037
It is obviously Nichijou this shouldn't even be a question.
>>154990724
>any of those
>deserving a spot there
>>154990724
>Madoka
cool art but not sakuga
>>154987300
Yeah, it didn't really do anything unique.
>anything above Space Dandy
shit taste yo!
>>154993018
Sakuga is not about taste, newfag. It's an objective quality.
>>154986099
I literally just finsihed watching knnw and I concur.
>>154991756
The TV series had its moments and Rebellion has quite a lot of sakuga in it, but I agree that it doesn't belong on this list (as much as I do love it).
That said, that's one of the flaws of trying to separate animation from art style. Something can be exceptionally well-animated and still look like shit overall (like some of the Naruto webms posted here, for example) or it can be shittily animated and still look good overall (the Lodoss OVAs are a good example of this). It's understandable that the debate tends to focus just on sakuga and not style because style is subjective whereas sakuga is more or less objective (frankly though, I've never actually seen serious discussion of animation here, i.e. whether a piece conveys motion well, techniques used, etc). But just like any other art, trying to judge it solely by what is easily quantifiable just won't work in the real world.
That's why people think stuff like F/Z was well animated, and then come here and get called retarded. Because in the end what's important to the viewer is the overall experience, and F/Z does look great, so people who are not aware of the jargon separating art style from fluidity naively call it "good animation". And in a sense, they're more correct than a lot of posters here are.
>>154986099
Better than Wind Rises?
>>154993691
No.
>>154994152
Expected as much, movies with that level of production are super rare.
>>154993540
yeah, ultimately technical excellence is just a plus, if a show's good enough otherwise it's an easy thing to give a pass unless it's outright terrible
>>154987209
Put K-On season 2 on the list
Boob sakuga
>>154996464
That's actually pretty good.
>>154998051
>Tumblr
>SnK