Why is Japanese comedy so painfully unfunny?

you aren't Japanese

They don't understand sarcasm. Not even kidding.

because youre a close-minded piece of shit murricunt

>>154921626
>arakawa under the bridge
>danshi kokosei no nichijou
>sakamoto desu ga
Checkmate

>>154921626
I ask myself why I even watch anime sometimes because I totally agree. Japanese people have the weirdest sense of humor, I never really laugh. But they sure are good at being dramatic

>>154921626
Yeah Rakugo just isn't funny at all in the anime, maybe it's different irl or a cultural thing.

>>154921626
Have you seen american stand up comedians?
How in the world people found those guys funny? I just dont get it

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>>154921626
>American comedy

>evening everyone, so TRUMP... *recorded laughter*

>>154921626

because you're not watching Azumanga or nichibros.

>>154921626
>using fucking archaic old-people-stage-comedy as your example

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>>154921626

>watching rakugo for the funnies

>>154921626
Japan is a very conservative country.

>>154921885
American """""comedy""""" is infantile and cringey, that I can agree with.

>expecting good comedy in a fujoshit show

>>154921626

Rakugo requires cultural understanding. Rakugo is also an older style of comedy, which draws on historical culture and stories. Most Japanese don't even find rakugo funny. You need to have some background, study and experience in Japanese culture before being able to understand Rakugo.

I'm South African and my favourite comedians are Leon Schuster and Trevor Noah. I've shown their material to my Australian friends and they don't get it at all, because they haven't lived in South Africa.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jvb9wnwFmqw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xiqwkx4oujo

I also enjoy playing Europa Universalis 4 and watch the meme videos online. I find them funny because I get the situations, but anyone who hasn't played EU4 won't get it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jY2O2F_-odQ

Rakugo is a meme. Japanese comedy is a meme. You won't get it if you don't understand the culture.

>>154921626
Sukeroku was a terrible person and the worst friend.

>>154921626
I thought Sabagebu was pretty funny

>>154922353
Sukeroku qlo!!
Kikukiho didnt deserve that scum as a friend

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PINING FOR THE FJORDS?

>>154921626
A country with a taboo about speaking about everyday problems, and an unwillingness to have public discussion on things like suicide or about how shit your old boss was, guts what we in the west know as comedy.

>>154922320
>Trevor Noah
It's not too late to end your life. There's no shame in it.

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>discover that most of the comedy anime I like are written by women
Do i have shit taste or am I on to something here?

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>>154921885
>>154922024

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>>154921626

You're watching unfunny shows. They exist in your own culture as well. Japan has more than just Osakan stand up. In my opinion, the comedy Japan does best is subtle observational humor and parody.

>>154922506
maybe gender doesn't really matter

>>154922467
It almost like Kumeta Kouji doesn't exist.

>>154922476

Exactly the reaction I was talking about.

Non-south african's just don't get the humour, because they haven't experienced SA first hand. It's only funny if you understand it.

>>154922452

Sir, you do realize this is a cheese shop? We have...

>>154922467
You want suicide jokes?

>>154922476
just because he's on daily show and unfunny doesn't mean his solo stand-up comedy is bad. i watched his netflix special and enjoyed it, he barely mentioned trump. god you /pol/tards get triggered so easy.

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>>154921885
I know you just found Todd Glass and all, but there is humor in everything and I think japs don't feel the same.

I think jas are pretty good at slapstick.
Or maybe slapstick is so easy that it's hard to get wrong.

>Japs aren't good at comedy
>Endless Eight exists

Stop getting your comedy from cartoons made for children and literal autistics living in japan maybe?

That's like asking why MLP or modern simpsons or make-up barbie show number 4052 isn't funny. Newsflash: You aren't the target audience.

>>154923084
Why are you even on here?

>>154922925

>Or maybe slapstick is so easy that it's hard to get wrong.
Yet Family Guy, American Dad, Robot Chicken and countless other shows do. Slapstick is actually tricky because it requires a setup and punch line without spoken dialogue. Most slapstick doesn't get a setup or punch line however and is just someone getting hurt. Which is funny the first time, then just stupid every time after that.

A pie in the face? That's mildly funny. A guy getting pied in the face, disembowled, dragged across a room by hooks, cut in half, thrown into a ringer then thrown in a toilet? A joke that never knew when to start or end.

>>154922506
I am going to generalize here, but Japanese female humour is a lot more "international". It's often based on silly faces and absurd situations in a otherwise serious settings, something everyone can enjoy. On the other hand male humour is a lot more Japanese: it's about manzai, something a lot of people here can't get, it's about violence on men, which gets tiring after a while, references.

This is about anime though. I'd say that /a/ should try to watch some genuine jap comedian and comedy movies, but I know a lot of westerners don't like Japanese acting.

>>154921826
But I see sarcasm in nico comments all the time. Maybe it's a relatively recent development, though

>>154923133
I was just trying to make clear that he obviously isn't going to find funny things that aren't catered to him.

I've seen quite a few japanese films that pulled comedy off quite well, and that goes for many other foreign films. I'm not stupid enough to watch 'Daily Middle School Life of Cute-Girl-Chan Who Likes Egg Pudding And Battles Evil Egg Pudding Men' or whatever the fuck (which is obviously catered to a younger audience) and complaining that I don't find the humor funny.

Is this something which is really hard to comprehend or think about or make you ponder or fire your neurons?

>>154922809
Nice try but it's a lot more than just polacks who think he is unfunny. His plummeting ratings is proof of that.

>you get triggered so easy.
Ironing

Because you're either watching shit shows or you're genuinely autistic.

>>154922452
britain humor the best

I am not even britain and I consume mainly japanese media

>>154922745
Fuck off it has nothing to do with being south african. He commentates on American politics, and isn't very good or funny about it. You can only do the same DUDE REPLICANS for so long

>>154921626
It's funny if you speak jap.

The best comedy anime is Fumoffu.

Nichibrofags are kidding themselves.

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Are we talking about comedy anime now?

>>154921626
Because the sense of what's fun differs from one culture to another.

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>>154921626
Because Manzai comedy is probably on par with puns. Hell, puns are at least creative by design while Manzai relies on repetition and familiarity. Also, cultural differences and I assume something gets lost in the translation.

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They get it some times.

>>154923857
Maybe they do, but terrible shows arent an example of them getting it

>>154923789
THAT'S WHAT YOU GET FOR LEAVING IT TO YOTARO!

>>154921626
how can you say such a thing when Bobobo exists?

>>154923885
What's it like going through life and being wrong at every waking second?

>>154921626
I think they do surreal/absurd comedy well.

>>154922024
>evening everyone, so Justin Bieb...

>>154922523
Yoriko a best

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English humour > Japanese humour > Russian humour > American "humour'

>>154924068
Australian humor > *

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>>154923527

British humor is usually the exact opposite of good. There's just a few notable exceptions. Try watching something beyond Monty Python and Are You Being Served. Most of their comedy shows are so dry, you don't even realize it's suppose to be funny.

As a side note, Working feels like a dry British workplace comedy. But the Japanese reaction shots and extreme characters make it actually work.

>>154924095
>Australian
British prisoner humour still counts as british humour.

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>>154922518

>"Wouldn't it be great if the cure for cancer was Michael Jackson sucking your dick?"
This is suppose to be funny? Eh, I guess it's better than 2 hours of 'damn whiteys!' black humor.

>>154924104
>Being this pleb

American?

>>154924191

>black comedians make a living bitching about white people
>the majority of their fans are white
>black people prefer Family Guy and King of the Hill
What a world.

>>154924191
It's "progressive" to like shitty humor if it comes from "minorities" (which aren't an actual minority in most cases).

>>154922783
Fuck yeah, it's hilarious.
Watch some Carlin.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gVEDnyDMHHQ&t=316s

>>154924201

>greentext
>American boogeyman response
Let me guess. European?

>>154921885
......How is that relevant to what he posted at all?

>>154924250
>Inventors of the laugh-track
>Berating anyone elses comedy

Billy-Bob, plz

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Here is a comedy

>mfw I like Eddie Izzard

Not because he dresses funny or is British, but because he actually talks about things like history, economics and world events. It's just refreshing to see a comedian sometimes who can make a joke about something besides sex, cuss words and racism.

>>154924228
>black people prefer Family Guy and King of the Hill
I've never met a black person that liked King of the Hill. To be honest I've never really met anyone that liked King of the Hill.
Anyway most of your post is pretty wrong,most black people would pick the Boondocks or Dave Chappelle over either of those shows any day for sure.

>>154924280

>Inventors of the laugh-track
Are you implying European shows don't use the laugh track? But sure. Americans also invented TV so by your logic, they're at fault for every shitty show your country makes.

>>154921885
George Carlin

>>154922467
you haven't watched SZS yet

>>154924323
Posted some of him.>>154924246

>"it's me, it's me "
>"hey is this one of those scams"
>"no it's the same fucking joke in every anime"

They would probably be a lot funnier if they didn't feel the need to have a guy shout out and explain the whole gag as it happens.

>>154921626
Nigga what, they do a swell job.
If it wasn't obvious already, you don't pick up Showagain for the comedy.

>>154924320
I don't give a shit about the rest of Europe, I was implying that the average american can't understand deadpan, dry or low-key humour.

QI is funny as shit and fuck anyone who disagrees.

>>154924320
Name a single European show with a laugh track.

>>154923671
Sasuga Sakamoto.

Heavy use of language nuances.

>>154924391
>the average american can't understand deadpan, dry or low-key humour.
Wasn't The Office the most popular comedy show in America at one point? Does that not fit that criteria?

>>154921626
But Gaki no Tsukai is hilarious

>>154924395

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CmdfKaB4qf4

>b-but that's not a laugh track! It's a real audience
American sitcoms use real audiences as well. As much as people hate The Big Bang Theory, it has a live audience. The laugh track was mostly phased out in the 70s.

As a side note, this show reuses a fuck ton of American jokes.

>>154921626

White pig go home

>>154924391

>I don't give a shit about the rest of Europe, I was implying that the average american can't understand deadpan, dry or low-key humour.
You didn't imply anything of the sort. You just claimed someone else was American and then complained about laugh tracks, which I doubt you can come up with a show that uses one in the last 15 years.

>>154924462
Credit where it's due most american sitcoms taped in front of live audiences don't use their "in moment" laughs (unless they're really good).

Generally you do multiple takes for scenes, either because someone flubs a line, the director has notes, or they want different angles/close ups (for single came mostly)

What happens is they have a comedian come out before the taping, he pumps up the crowd and tells jokes, they record the set and use it for the "laugh track"

>>154924462
>The laugh track was mostly phased out in the 70s.
Haha tell that to disney channel.

>>154924522

That was an old method. Used on shows like Home Improvement or Full House which had multiple sets (and wasn't very funny). But is not used much anymore. As amazing as it may seem, the laughter you are hearing on The Big Bang Theory is not canned. It is the actual laugh at the time. Though you kind of got it right that they will usually use the laugh the first time the joke is done. Since after 23 retakes, the audience won't laugh or clap again. They then edit in the audiences first reaction. You can all this 'cheating' if you want, but I assure you all your British sitcoms do the same thing.

>>154924583

Well you got me there. But Disney Channel shows are bad on so many levels, we really shouldn't even count them as TV.

And fucking Nickelodeon is trying their hardest to out stupid the Disney Channel.

A lot of their humour is based on word play and it's lost in translation for me.

They are good at slapstick and absurdist humour.

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>>154924701

>joke is based on a Chinese Kanji that has an alternate meaning in Japanese and sounds slightly like an English word
>the joke is the Katakana version is part of a well known Japanese tongue twister

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Is there anything in anime as cancerous and unfunny as bokke/tsukkomi "humor"?

>>154924068
Can you brits post anywhere without being self-aggrandizing cunts?

Humor is situational. I found myself laughing at stuff on 4chan more than anything mainstream.

>>154924847

Sorry m8, I's just havin' a larf.

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>>154924796
>there's so many things I don't even know where to start tsukkomi'ing

Cromartie High School exists

>>154924796
Laurel and Hardy/ Abbot and Costello duo's ended in the west around the end of the 1950's/mid 60's. They are relying on old humor in Japan if they still do straight man/ funny guy routines.

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>character gets hit
>"REFERENCE/NONSENSICAL WORD!"

>>154924068
So you put the Nation who doesn't understand sarcasm, and half the time explains the joke, over American humor.

>>154924916

And is everything wrong when it comes to comedy.

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is this show funny?

>>154924916
And is not funny.

>>154925099
Is this a maid dragon ripoff?

>>154925099
A bit. It's enjoyable anyway.
>>154925097
>>154925106
reeeee

>>154924309
Hi.

Anon from a southern state here. I love King of The Hill along with many people I know here in the south so it might just be us.

KoTH is funny because it is a well done satire on a person with strong traditional values and beliefs coping with a rapidly changing world that brings more "progressive" beliefs along with moral degradation e.g., comfortability with nudity, shifty business ethics, etc. It can be said that a great deal of these issues already existed of course, but it's not hidden as well and Hank has to deal with his experiences as a relic of an older time.

That said the characters are mostly relatable and realistic.

>>154922506
Read more josei

>There are people in this thread that didn't find Nichibros fucking hilarious

>>154925237
Nichijou is dull and unfunny as well.

The problem I have with most comedy from Japan is someone always needs to make a comment on it straight after.
>Character 1 does a silly thing
>Character 2 Oh my god you just did a silly thing!
rather than letting their expressions speak for themselves.

Last comedy I laughed at was Binbougami ga.

>>154921826
a full of sarcasm show might be fun. but, most of the Japanese grow up as we have to pretend like not enjoying it. I barely understand it's normal for foreigners to laugh at someone's loss or something in public.

>>154921626
People say Germans have no sense of humor, and yet German comedy makes me laugh harder than anything else because it's what I grew up with.
"Funny" is a very regional thing.

Nichijou is hilarious most of the time
Nichibros has like maybe 5 funny skits

>>154925302
>understand it's normal for foreigners to laugh at someone's loss or something in public.
japanese have games shows where they torture people and the japanese laugh

Nichijou is shit

>people pointing out that Chromartie High School, Nichijou and Nichibros isn't funny
Did /a/ suddenly develop a brain?

>>154925237
If you had a semi-normal adolescence and could relate to it, you'll love it. If you were some anxiety-plagued friendless social reject, you probably won't get it.

>>154925339
>Nichijou
I've always disliked this show. It exists just to make gifs. It has a nice art style but other than that I don't know why a majority of /a/ thought it was the pinnacle of comedy.

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>>154922308
>rakugo
>fujoshit

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>>154925099
Now you have reminded me, I had to go and watch the Caramel song. Then I found this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NMMkuOB-L1o

>Traditional Japanese Hell Striptease

Sasuga

>>154925323
yeah, but it's a mere game... there's no serious conflict for causing people to be sarcastic.

>>154925081
Japan understands sarcasm fine, it's simply different from american idea of sarcasm and more subtle.

>>154925339
No. I've been calling them unfunny since they aired.

>>154925395
It has a very relatable and subtle humor
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=87kf99R96Fw

Fuck off, you all have shit taste. Tsukkomi is a fucking masterpiece compared to western, using this word in the broadest sense, "comedy". You're just a bunch of plebian retards who can't appreciate good humor. You need ot fuck off with this circlejerk threads where all you do is say "haha anime is shit" "yeah anime really sucks haha, unlike superior western things". Go fucking kill yourselves.

>>154925440
That's neither funny or subtle. On the contrary, it's extremely fucking blatant, with what'shername murmuring constantly like a damn cat in heat.

>>154924462
>As much as people hate The Big Bang Theory, it has a live audience

No it doesn't you moron, if you buy the DVDs they offer you the ability to turn the laugh track off, it is very much tacked on.

That being said anyone who argues about comedy is retarded. There's good American comedies out there like Seinfeld, Arrested Development, etc. Just as there is bad English comedy but this is all subjective as different comedies are made for different target audiences.

>>154925463
No way is saying anime sucks, faggot.

>>154925463
Anime humour blows. Not our fault the soulless Gooks thing there's something funny about shoutingly pointing out when someone's being stupid. It's literally I AM SILLY YOU ARE SILLY tier comedy.

>>154922467
Literally, unironically, SZS. Acquire taste faggot.

>>154922506
Don't you mean just Konosuba? Literally the only instance in existence of a female writer being funny.

>>154925507
Ranma½ can be funny at times.

>>154925507
Rance series.

>>154925440
Yeah, I really liked it, it never fails to give me a good chuckle. I guess other people expected the kind of comedy that makes you fall on the floor choking? I like the simple irony and situational humor in Nichijou.

There are many anime/manga series I find funny, even laugh out loud hilarious, but when I really think about it none of them can compare to my favourite western comedies in terms of how clever and well executed the jokes are. I do think there's a big cultural barrier involved though. I can't really judge if a dialogue based joke is 'clever' without understanding the language. It'd probably be the same for them, even if we intellectually understand a joke, we won't necessarily find it funny without fully getting the context, cultural background, tone, etc. I'm looking through my /tv/ folder now and thinking there's no way nips could get these jokes no matter how good their English is.

>>154922506
>>154925507
What the fuck Konosuba's author is female?

>>154925502
It is funny, you just have shit taste. I find anime and Jap humor in general to be the most amusing kind of humor.

>>154925564
Yeah. She self-inserts as Divorceness.

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I think this show sums up what's wrong with a lot of comedies that come out of Japan. There are really funny shows imo like Sabagebu, Binbougami ga and Nozaki kun but Dragon Maid takes the cake of what not to do.
>Let's make every character we introduce have a tiny bit of development then after make them repeat the same jokes over and over again
I mean do we really need to be reminded that Elma is always hungry?

>>154925546
I find most american, and a lot of other western comedy, to be stupid and retardedly unfunny. It's all so fucking unamusing, every joke is about some dumb normalfag shit I can't relate to. I much prefer the abstract humor in anime.

>>154921626
Different culture

After watching some of the best 90s and 00s British sitcoms my standards got too high

>>154925620
If you're thinking of sitcom humour then I agree, but there's a lot of variety in the humour out there.

For me I think it's like, the best of the best western comedy > anime/manga comedy > average or worse western comedy.

>>154925764
I still think the best of Japanese comedy has something about it that can't be found in Western comedy.

honestly, "comedy" is not my taste. I, a Japanese, don't understand even the point of Konosuba. aahaaaahhhh I miss Seto no Hanayome

>>154925793
>don't understand even the point of Konosuba
Think Slayers but everyone is incompetent.

>>154921626
Japanese comedy is just so deep that it goes over your head

>>154925843
This but unironically. Japanese humor has such delicately crafted parts, you crush it when you walk all over it with your clumsy gaijin feet.

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Japanese comedy can be great, I like it.

comedy is subjective as horror
>I never laugh = comedy genre doesn't exist

>>154926140
Horror isn't subjective. Something may not scare you, and that's subjective, but the horror genre has objective elements that describe it.

>>154926216
I have no fear. Nothing can scare me.
Horror = doesn't exist for me

>>154925473

>No it doesn't you moron
They have footage of them performing in front of a live audience

>if you buy the DVDs they offer you the ability to turn the laugh track off, it is very much tacked on.
See >>154924625

The studio audiences reaction is recorded on a separate track and added in later. This isn't the same as a 'laugh track' like you'd see on an episode of Beverly Hillbillies or Scooby Doo. With the audience reactions being on a separate track, it can be turned on and off. You could do the same thing to the actors audio if they gave you the option. It is also recorded separately from the visual.

>>154925606

Sadly, Japanese audiences do need to be reminded. Because a lot of people don't start watching a show until multiple episodes in. And if you have a character where the joke relies on a personality trait they introduced in episode 1, then someone who started watching on episode 7 won't get it. This is the drawback to ongoing jokes and happens in non Japanese shows as well.

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Is american "comedy" supposed to be funny?

>>154925606
I really can't say. Sometimes I hate it in Jap jokes but I always laugh when Hosei gets slapped or Tanaka gets thai'd.

>>154925187
Even though King of the Hill targets Texans, I feel like the characters would nearly be the same person in any part of the world, that's why I love the KOTH cast

>>154926463
90's sandler was alright.
I can still watch Billy Madison and Happy Gilmore.

>>154924246
>>154924323
Carlin was an aberration, just like Lenny Bruce.
The difference is Carlin lived longer and saw an age where one could get away with stuff you couldn't say in the early 60's.

>>154926463
I like Leslie Nielsen tier humor.

>>154926316
You're just a fucking moron making shit up.

TBBT doesn't even claim to film in front of a live audience.

>>154922320
>Trevor Noah
John Oliver teir

>>154922506
Well the comedic moments from FMA were the worst part

Japan is the country that gave us Excel Saga so you can not say they are shit at comedy

>>154925429
You're actually completely right about this, but it still rarely results in something actually funny.

>>154923162
American Dad is great, it does farce comedy really well, probably because MacFarlane ha nothing to do with the show apart from voice acting

>>154927171
Nah, John Oliver is much better. Trevor Noah killed one of if not the most successful show on cable TV.

>>154924307
Fuck that cunt, he wants Ireland to be English

>>154924462
I dunno how I feel about My Hero, it is shitty 70's Britcom humour but comes out with hilarious zingers sometimes

>>154921885
Bill burr is god

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>>154925507

>>154924796
This is why I never could get into Bobobo

>>154925440
Subtle? God no, the whole point of Nichijou is normal day stuff but super hyper, hence the name of the show. I am a fan though, it does it's craft very well

>>154925187
Texan here can confirm. KotH is a masterpiece to us.

>>154927307
I'm not even /pol/ but what do American news comedies with a man in a suit looking at the camera overly gesturing his hands even say apart from
>Trump is orange and has small hands

>>154927413
F is for Family was a great King of the Hill OVA

>>154927626
American are fucking weird blud.

>>154929650
I don't like Trump but Jesus, do we need to be reminded that his hair is silly and that he said WHAT on Twitter constantly? Get some new material 2010's comedians

>>154923789
>Manzai relies on repetition
Humor that relies on repetition? Isn't this an oxymoron?

I do find konosuba and ONEs stuff funny, but thats its.
SZS wasnt funny, nichijou was painful to watch, Gintama wasnt funny in the slightest.

Lets just wait for more OPM or konosuba copiers, they were succesfull enough.

This place is like 80% American. And guess how many of these Americans actually understand the thought process of Japanese. Fuck they probably don't understand Americans from other states.

>>154930193
>SZS and Gintama isn't funny
A taste this shit should be a crime.

>>154930228
I cant read kanji, that invalidates 50% of SZS jokes. Also "im in despairrr x 10" each episode.

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>foreign character fucks up the most basic thing simply because they're foreign and foreigners are dumb lol
I enjoy a lot of comedy shows but this shit drives me up the fucking wall.

>>154925507
Choboraunyopomi

At the core of everything Japan does is the fervent desire to adhere to the familiar, the perfectly formulaic and predictable.

Repetition destroys comedic value.

Combine these two and you have the reason.

This bait

90% of nip humor consists of puns and making fun of a single character trait
like
"haha that guy is poor"
"haha that loser wears glasses"
"haha look how fat she is"
"lol he's so short"

Too heavy reliance on puns

Example: guy is about to leave;

>he says "sayonara"
>farts at the same time
>onara is fart in japan
>"lol i get it haha t.japanese person"

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>character eats something
>OISHIIIIIII
>has an orgasm-tier reaction
Never gets old

>>154931096
Apparently its rude to not say the food tastes oishii/umai when you eat.
Like you eat cup noodles and theyre just average youre gonna say its fucking tasty.

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>>154921626
gintama>family guy

>>154931096
UMI DAAAAAAAAAA

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>Japanese "humor"

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>>154931096
Oh and how could I forget the ever-present 'Girl is a bad cook and the food has purple stink lines' gag

>>154931219
Isnt that traditional live action TV sketch? I havent see that all that much in anime.

>>154922783
A part of comedy is coping with hard truths. An unwillingness to even recognize something as off kill not only comedy but honest discussion.

>>154931248
>what is Shinpachi from Gintama
>Coby/Nami in One Piece
>Manta in Shaman King
>Beauty in Bobobo
>Yui in Yuru Yuri/Yuyushiki (except deadpan instead of bulging eyes and fangs)
And many many other examples.

>>154922024
>being politically illiterate to the point of not understanding satire

>>154931219
>>154931344
Shinpachi was the biggest reason I couldn't finish Gintama. That fucking dweeb had to ruin every funny bit with his unnecessary ass. Easily the worst character in anything ever.

>>154923857
If it wasn't for Lemon i'd agree

>>154931021
>nara
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4mdsFIFlvNQ

>>154924235
Who said you could leave your circlejerk. Fuck off back to /pol/

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>>154921626
Probably a couple of reasons, but one big one comes to mind: explaining the joke. Characters can't do something stupid or funny without some other character pointing it out. "Oh look, he made a misunderstanding!", "Oh look, he fell down some stairs!". Yes, we saw, we get it. It could have been funny had you not slapped us with that in-the-face explanation.

Also
>British humor is better than American humor
>American humor is better than British humor
>Implying every work of comedy from each country can be neatly fit into a single box
>Implying there is no overlap in the jokes they use
>Implying good comedians don't exist in both countries
>Implying you have some peer-reviewed journal article averaging-out the funniness of either country in some quantifiable unit of comedy.

>>154931544
There's also humor from less widely known sources/languages, which has the potential to be just as good.

>>154925507
>hasn't read Cat Soup
Kill yourself

>>154925620
>being this much of a basment dwelling weeb

>>154925606
Oh no she trying to seduce the shota again lololololol

>>154931959
I saw a movie with those cats but it was like abstract horror, not comedy.

>>154927307
Tbh that chair was curses. No one could really 'replace' Jon. Plus with Colbert having a new show... I wouldn't of taken on that job.

>>154927468
what is this? image searching has failed me

>>154921826
This. Lived there for 10 years before moving back to the west. Taken me over 2 years and still having trouble with re-learning sarcasm.

Japanese typically like either rakugo/manzai-style humor or they prefer full-on "lel so randum xD" shit.

>>154932284
How can a culture not understand sarcasm? This isn't rhetorical. I'm genuinely curious.

>>154932321
Its the honorifics, you're constantly reminded to think about politeness and social standings.

ITT: Dumb cunts argue with each other about which form of humor is "superior" when it's all just a matter of preference. Get the fuck out with this shit.

>>154932377
There could be an argument about what types of humour is more universal instead of in-jokes.
Puns or jokes based on how you write kanji/language dont connect universally that well.

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>>154925606
The funniest joke was when fafnir suggested to "update the play" to modern standards by changing the main character to a mahou shoujo. He was living with Takiya who is an otaku about anime and games.

>>154924304
Tsukkomi-boke I liked it

What would people call Tentai Senshi Sunred?

>>154921885
Louis CK
>inb4 cuck memes

>>154932454
Well yes, but that's an entirely different subject matter than what I was getting at.

>>154921626
Because you're too stupid to get it.

>>154921826
>>154932321
It's not that they don't understand sarcasm, they just usually don't use it for comedic effect. Sarcasm is very commonly used to insult or criticize, especially when the social circumstances require a certain amount of deniability. Also, because of that, their sarcasm tends to be a lot less blatant than the American approach of "say the exact opposite of what you mean in a loud and drawn-out voice".

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>>154923885
Delete.

>ITT: grumpy faggots wondering why they can't enjoy comedy

>>154921626
D-Frag is one of my favourite comedies of any medium. So I disagree. Though I will say there are "comedies" that are mislabelled as such. It's a tag that is thrown around too much.

>>154925118
>reeeee
Fuck off, frogposter.

>>154932466
>What would people call Tentai Senshi Sunred

SoL

and comedy-parody, it has tsukommi boke but another selling points is the throwback at the older tokusatsu show

look at this shit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jotiV4LVaHk

>talks about comedy
>posts a screenshot with subtitles

>>154932890
>posts an image on an imageboard
How terrible.

>I enjoy anything, even if it's literal garbage.

>>154932944
You're saying we should stop watching anime?

>>154932999
for humor, yes

japs don't have souls, and don't understand how to make people laugh without some wacky animation or over-the top reference

they literally don't have jokes

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I enjoy a bit of the dark humor

>>154924323
do you want me to post a fedora meme or what

>>154925429
If by subtle you mean you mean weak then sure. Even at their best the sarcasm never has that western bite of cleverness plus spite like in the west usually.

>Name one funny comedy

>>154931959
Nekojiru wasn't funny.
At best morbidly fascinating, because it was like taking a glimpse inside the mind of an insane person.

>People still use sarcasm as grown adults

What the fuckery am I witnessing? Are you all still kids or something? only women and kids do that shit

You can have a normal conversation humor or anything else without sarcasm

>>154921626
Gintama is alright I guess

>>154932321
Psychologists often describe sarcasm as veiled anger/hostility. A culture adaptations varies among culture to culture.

Another reason is biological reasoning. In western culture, there's emphasis on facial features when conveying meaning. While facial features are a thing in eastern cultures, its not something that's placed an emphasis on. So when we make sarcasm, we use both our facial expression and our tone to denote a humorous way of looking at things. Btw, facial expression analysis difference between asian/western culture is noted in many studies. Asians tend to look at fuller picture, westerners tend to look at minute details.

Thirdly, the culture of respect is the norm in east asian culture. Sarcasm is very informal and often used in speech by the yakuzas/criminals/thugs in Japan. Just not general public or general public humor, unless they're pretending to be those types.

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>>154933644

>>154924309
I'm black. I like King of the Hill. Hank stayed a great character while the other cartoon dads became insufferable.

>>154925116
oni's, not dragons, uncultured swine.

>>154925507
>Konosuba
>Funny

>>154924451
Haven't you seen the 2k17 one, they have to rely on fart gags for cheap laughs now.

>>154925399
It has two guys that are friends how is it not fujoshit

comedy is always referential in some way. you cannot tell a joke without without any cultural and social background. nothing is universally funny.

humor always works with breaking some sort of expectation the audience has. it plays with what is generally considered normal. a somewhat homogenous group of people is always required to tell joke. you cannot successfully tell a joke, if you aren't understood, not only in terms of a language barrier, but also in terms of cultural and social differences.

>>154936259

but it is

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>a bunch of cute girls become more and more aggressive as they try to rape the MC
>he runs away from them like they're flesh-eating zombies erry time

that's always good comedy

>>154936283
i haven't even watch the prison batsu

but i guess everyone getting too old for yearly batsu games

Maybe nothing is universal, but it can be widespread. I'm almost certain Japan's brand of comedy is in the minority, while most other countries mostly agree on what is funny and what is not.

>>154924323

disgusting

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>>154924796
It's an acquired taste. Show usually improves when they get rid of the tsukkomi, though.

>>154936698
That's not really accurate. Ask anyone who's seen a lot of different media from different countries, and you can definitely feel a difference between them. Like, the UK is very different from the US, and South Korea is actually quite a bit different from China or Japan. The truth is, in a broad sense the countries that have the closest ties throughout history tend to share a similar (but not exactly the same) sense of humor.

>>154936698
It can be widespread, if there is a homogenous audience. maybe "most other countries" share something in their cultural background, that makes the agree on something being funny.
btw I don't think it makes sense to set "most counties" against a single one like Japan. In an increasingly linked world, communities become more and more heterogenous and homogenous at the same time. wide parts of a society do not necessarily share the same cultural, religious or ideological background, therfore it becomes ncreasingly difficult to find a common ground to joke about in this societies. on the other hand the internet and especially the social networks make it easier to communicate with people around the world an establish a new foundation of humour that isn't bound to local cultural, historical etc. factors.
memes for example are funny to a specific group of people who can understand their implied meaning. memes go viral, when theri implied meaning becomes accesible for a growing group of people.
internet humor is dominatet by trends that are considered funny at some point and always reference some sort of content that can only be understood in some kind of shared background.
they are funny because hey are well understood and well known.

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Tsukkomi-Boke is the greatest shit out there, get some fucking taste

>>154938679
So Laurel and Hardy/ Penn and Teller is the absolute best shit for you?

>>154922308
Kill you are self

>>154930317
I liked it just for the rants and how ridiculous everything got during the rant, while sometimes still being a relatable topic.
I didn't even read any of the blackboards.

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>>154931959
Man the short film from 2001 is messed up. The ending is absolutely fucked.
>the credits move back up whenever the music box is rewound

>>154921626
You seem haven't watched Ai Mai Mi ever.

>>154939761

Just simple "lol so randum xD" humor. Anybody can do that shit.

calling Japanese comedy unfunny because rakugo isn't funny is like saying American is unfunny because vaudeville isn't funny

>>154925423
So... you DON'T know what sarcasm means

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>>154925302
>barely understand it's normal for foreigners to laugh at someone's loss or something in public
I'm a Europoor and I don't even understand this.
>Ha ha, he fell! He may have broken something but it's funny!
>Ha ha, he got kicked in the balls! Now isn't his pain fucking hilarious?

>>154926916

>You're just a fucking moron making shit up.
>TBBT doesn't even claim to film in front of a live audience.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pEKm54STV2Q

5 seconds in google brings up dozens of youtube videos and articles showing it does.

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>>154939761
>3 minute shorts
Sweet.

I do find Japanese humour overall less funny on average than both American and humour of my country, even though I have quite a lot of shows I enjoyed and thought were funny and I don't even hate boke-tsukkomi routines.
American/English humour I too find less funny that jokes I hear in my native language, but I think that divide has been less pronounced since I became better at English. Still though, I rarely actually outright laugh at foreign humour. It's more likely to be a chuckle and a smile. Humour in my native language has more of a chance to get a reaction. But yet I still was laughing out loud while reading "Three Men in a Boat (To Say Nothing of the Dog)" and I think I remember there being a ton of content I genuinely laughed at in Englsih, so it's obviously not a hard rule.
Overall, probably, I think almost every country has a kind of "specialty" in humour actually, such as irony in England, absurdism, puns and weird in-joke humour in Japan, black humour and harsh social satire in Russia, whatever the fuck you call American humour, etc. These specialties do not actually prevent any other kind of humour from being used, they're more what humour tends to get accepted there. Plus social barriers, which gut a ton of subtler jokes, precisely because they're actually kinda subtle.
As such jokes being less funny in another country is a combination of cultural illiteracy that kills the subtler jokes and shifted "style" of humour just being kinda hard to wrap your head around at times. The more in tune you are with culture of that nation, the more you will start to understand the humour, since humour is a social reaction too.
But yet even to full-on foreigners it still kinda connects, because if all else fails, good ol' "pie to the face" will get accepted everywhere. Plus, authors are people too, and they too have their own styles. Their cultural background will still colour their humour, but it's not like they're restricted to the "specialty".

It's no surprise that EOP Amerisharts who expect to laugh at subtitles wouldn't find the subtle superior patrician Japanese humour to their taste.

>>154926463
>Caddyshack
>Airplane
>Blazing Saddles
>The Big Lebowski
>THE JERK
>Animal House
>Dumb & Dumber
>Coming to America

I could keep going

>>154924246
>I'm gonna hang myself and make Walmart pay for it
Truly a visionary ahead of his times.

>>154924068
Russian humor is superior, just watch Soviet comedy movies. You won't see such quality anywhere else.

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>>154924104
>Try watching something beyond Monty Python
They turned out to be so good that it made Britannia rule the humour as it ruled the waves in the past.

After saying that British do not know how into comedy what next?
Saying that Germans can be funny?

Also pic related series was a masterpiece.

>>154923566

assblasted trumpfan detected.

>>154939761
I found season 1 entertaining, but during seasons 2 and 3 I felt like I was missing something. I kept up with the /a/ threads and people seemed to enjoy it, but I'm not sure why. I mean it's natural for people to like different things, but the fact that I once liked it and then stopped is very confusing.

>>154940841

British bait is so weak.

>>154924104
monty python is seen as being really low-brow and dumb in the UK. the only thing that's really liked about it is the satire aspects of it, which is an aspect of the show that goes over the heads of most american fans because they're not familiar with 1970s british politics.

>>154940841

how would you know if germans are funny or not if you are not a german native speaker?

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Question: Was One Punch Man meant to be funny? As in, makes-you-laugh-out-loud funny?

Because I think it made me crack a smile like twice during the whole show.

>>154940501
literally 100% of those are shit.

>>154923084
>You aren't the target audience.
This is the new "You can't do better".

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>>154933145

>>154941668
all doiz hoimborgas

>>154921626
DMC and Sabagebu produce some of the highest number of laughs per minute.

>>154941194
OPM is dry humor, it's supposed to make you smirk.

I don't know about Japanese comedy, but I find the Japanese have a good sense of humour in general

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>>154924769
>Implying kanji/hánzi jokes aren´t a ton of fun to look up and figure out.
mfw It took me forever to get the volcano joke in Yuyushiki and I´m not sure I fully get it even now.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FxR_diKgoL8
At least part of the joke plays on かざん and おかあさん and´m still not getting the rest of it.
The dog joke in Joshiraku was gloriouisly random, too, but only indirectly a kanji -based one.

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I think the problem is that you're looking for something in Japanese comedy that doesn't exist. It's not even the same kind of comedy that western is, even for their own culture. You guys are like someone going into a sushi bar and being confused when you can't get a hamburger. It's like, western comedy can have me rolling on the floor laughing, but only Nip comedy can make me smile.

>>154941164

>monty python is seen as being really low-brow and dumb in the UK.
Sounds like most British comedy. Monty Python actually had a lot more going on besides fish slapping and jokes about breasts. More than just satire. A lot of their jokes are actually mocking the rigid British society and the education system the Python's went through. You're right that a lot of people in America wouldn't get the 'So much for Pathos' joke. But neither would most people in Britain. It's an intelligent joke within a dumb joke. And as you can clearly see, the studio audience for Monty Python laughed the hardest at physical, low brow comedy.

>>154921626
Have you already forgot about konosuba

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>>154925463
Bad tsukkomi is like laugh track; if you remove it and the material doesn't get any worse, then it's a waste of time that could be used for something else like longer reaction or another gag to have a better pacing. A tsukkomi so obvious that anyone could make it is pretty much equal to adding a laugh track after a joke that is not funny at all, and unfortunately it works since the average viewer anywhere in the world doesn't have a good sense of humor.

Good tsukkomi is either something the audience doesn't realize by itself (eg. an explanation, comparison or reference) or something that is funny by itself (eg. reaction, acting). The delivery is as important as the material, and the cases that excel in both are really rare, especially in anime because humor doesn't sell BDs.

>>154925463
Tsukkomi is awful. Explaining the joke is known to be a fantastic way to kill a joke. Tsukkomi is basically just that but loud.

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>>154924769

Basu gasu basu basu! Basu gasu baku haku! Gasu baku haku haku!

This thread is so unfunny, Carlos Mancia would rip it off.

>>154944588
Humor is serious business.

>>154944386
What you don't get is that it's the tsukkomi itself that's funny.

>>154944638

If you're a writer for TV and film, is actually kind of is. Any knowledgeable writer will tell you its actually harder to write comedy than drama. Of course that doesn't excuse all the bad comedy out there. Just pointing out that it takes more steps to develop comedy in written form. And then the actor can totally ruin it.

>>154944661
Tsukkomi is like big bang theory tier humour.

>>154944725
I know that. I was just making a statement that could be either taken as a humorous contradiction or as a statement of fact.

Oh is this the general for circlejerking about how Japan is a living hell and shit in every way?

>>154932674
>>154921826
>>154932321
In Vietnam at or maybe most east Asian cultures, sarcasm isn't really present.

It's technically just lying to show contempt of a situation.

>>154931511
Holy shit, I've only ever heard the audio for this, on that really fucking old flash on /f/.

>>154921826
explain then zetsubou sensei, azazel-san, *gatari, gintama, etc

>>154921626
Humor highlights the nightmare of the human condition.

Nips believe everything is just fine.

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>>154939761
I watched it, but did not find it very comical. In fact, most of the time I didn't even understand what the fuck was supposed to be happening because it was trying too hard to be random, and some other times it may have elicited a "oh, I get that reference haha," but that's about it.

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>>154921626
Part of it has to do with not understanding the cultural references or puns due to you not being Japanese but part of it also has to do with the fact they are Japanese.

>>154945108
Yeah. Sarcasm is not funny, it's passive aggressive, especially in the more traditional regions

>>154921626
I know you're trying to troll us just for a joke but painfully unfunny.

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>>154944571
Why is there a domain named after a tounge twister? One that dosn´t appear to work, even. http://www.basugasubakuhatsu.com/

I mostly consume Japanese stuff because I find most of western humor not funny. And western drama not touching. And western porn not arousing.
To each their own, I guess.

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>>154945878

I have no idea.

Why is humor in anime so loud in obnoxious though? Like half of the jokes in anime are always like this: one character does something stupid and then another character has a super over exaggerated reaction ("NANI!?!??!?!?!?!?!?" or something along those lines)

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>>154946343

>generalize all anime
>Like half of the jokes in anime are...
>everything
>half
You gotta stop making posts like this if you want a serious response.

>>154927413
His last Netflix special was like if he took too many Ambien and went on his podcast

>>154939793
Then, name some of those from western culture.

>>154945878
if it "doesn't appear to work" your Japanese isn't good enough, furendo.

>>154933746
No, you simply don't get it because it's not spelled out for you lot. It's the same reason why you take the internet so seriously and always get mad at posts, you can't tell when people are sarcastic unless you are told they are.

>>154944386
This. Good tsukkomi is 99% about the timing. That's why Downtown's manzai was always so good. I mean Matsumoto could just get up on stage and tell one of his lelsorandumXD stories by himself but without Hamada there to slap his shit and point out the inconsistencies in his story with perfect timing it just wouldn't be funny.

Good tsukkomi is like the good cop, bad cop of comedy. Downtown more-so than other combi were so good because their timing was literally perfect in every routine they did.

>>154940896
I love season 2 the most. Also, Somera-chan is awesome.

>>154946452
You're an asukafag so I'm just going to assume you're autistic

>>154924796
Need a good bokke like Tomo

>>154946807

>if you post a funny reaction image you must love that character
>wah you're just a dumbass angry response
You're really helping your point.

>>154947025
>le funny reaction image
ok so you're just a redditor, then.

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>>154940295
No one read all those words ahaha

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>>154947078

>reddit invented reaction images
>4chan and 2chan were doing it before reddit existed
Are you like 5 years old?

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>>154947025
>if you post a funny reaction image
>implying >>154946452 is a reaction image
Reaction images generally tend to be focused on the face and the emotion displayed thereon. Pic related.

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The japs know that things become funny when you speed them up.

>>154947132
>pretending that leddit didn't appropriate most of the memes from old 4chan
>implying using old memes isn't cancerous
>implying you're not a redditor
>doesn't even know how to use reaction images

>>154921626
Not enough fart-jokes for you, I assume.

>>154924323
Probably not a good sign if you have to mention somebody who has been dead for almost 10 years.

>>154924246
how does anyone finds this old fart any funny?

>>154947190

A character blowing a Vuvuzela is a symbol that your post is just hot air and stupid.

Sorry I posted a reaction image that forces you to use your brain. I should have known that wouldn't work.

>>154925606
>>154926394
>I mean do we really need to be reminded that Elma is always hungry?
You should read some posts on /a/ once in a while, we're having some impressively dense people on here as well.

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>>154947229

>pretending that leddit didn't appropriate most of the memes from old 4chan
If Reddit is like old 4chan, then you're just making Reddit sound better than 'new' 4chan.

>implying using old memes isn't cancerous
Using memes at all is cancerous. Again, you're not helping your own point. Which now is just a weak deflection.

>doesn't even know how to use reaction images
You forgot yours in your last post.

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Kuso thread. Commit sudoku.

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>>154947318
>does something autistic
>calls people dumb when they don't understand autistic non-sense
you're killing me here, anon!

(also, you'll notice I used a reaction image properly. Please, take notes, and your 4chan experience will be a lot more fun and smooth.)

>>154947400
calm your autism a little bud

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>>154947400
>you're just making Reddit sound better than 'new' 4chan
>posts 3D
Stay there then, you fucking moron.

>>154941194
Go fuck yourself

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>Character A does something absurd
>Character B points out how absurd said action was while yelling with exaggerated facial expressions

Comedy gold.

>B-B-But the B-B-Burgers

Doesn't make Jap comedy any better. At least the "Burgers" aren't afraid to do political satire out of a fear of offending people. If there's a Japanese South Park or Boondocks I'd like to see it.

>>154947414

>you're just stupid because you can't use reaction images correctly!
That's a pretty autistic deflection bro.

>>154946518
Hes podcast are great too

>>154947229
Pls go

Wow, this thread was already bad. But now a couple guys are having an e-penis battle about who can deflect better. Time for a deletion.

>>154947507
>doesn't address the main point of my post
>only mentions a joke I tacked on at the end
well, at least you're derailing a shitty /a/ thread.

>>154924323
The fact that Americans actually think some bitter old man getting mad on stage is funny is impressive.

>>154947580
Narutards from plebbit are taking over the board.