What's so dangerous about the grafted Rokakaka that Dolomite was talking about? What could Jobin possibly do, fuse with
Man, I sure wish my house had a hallway of Jojo screenshots.
You know why he so smug ?
He do lewd things for money And uses this money to buy lewd outfits.
And while I'm at it, let's discuss these pine trees in JJL.
The power of the Holy Corpse could have very well created the new type of Rokakaka along with the graft Josefumi created.
It could also very well be the same one Dolomite talked about last chapter with it being a 'new species'.
Araki has been very consistent on where the Lone Pine tree is located (Check my next post's attached image for more info).
It's also worth mentioning that the Wall Eyes are 'protecting something'
>Yasuho Ch. 1 Welcome to Morioh
>The fault line stretched 10 kilometers from North to South, as if protecting us from something that would be coming from the sea.
>Damo Ch. 51 Graft
>There are uplifted faults going as high as 20 meters in some spots. Almost like it's protecting something.
Hello, I am back again Davidshills. I think now that the dust is settled it's about time to admit that Rikiya is far superior to Morikawa. Don't you agree ?
If Hayato made a long distance phone call or sent a letter to a different country, would Bites The Dust still somehow kill the person on the receiving end? What if he posted it on twitter or something?
Kill yourself, Davidshill . :)
And so the Amerifat lusts after fictional woman once again. Sad, rather than enjoying and loving the manga you make pathetic posts about the "ass" of fictional characters. Amerifats, everyone!
pathetic Amerifat. Giorno would break your wrist before you even laid a finger on him. Amerifats ruined this fandom.
I thought Morikawa nailed it, actually. It's not really fair to compare the two, though. Voicing a character in a fighting game is incredibly different than voicing a character in an actual story.
Davidshills, Davidshills, Davidshills , what am I going to do with you? This argument can be disproved as Wataru's non-fighting lines are far better delivered and cuter than Ono's. Try again , Davidshill.
I'm sorry my opinion offended you, friend. I'll go listen to some of his lines from the games and get back to you. Maybe I'll notice something I didn't before. I hope you have a pretty swell day.
>you will never make giorno scream in italian as he trembles from your cock
fucking kill me in my sleep already
Not a fanfic, it was an educated guess on how the situation went down. It easily could've happened.
When you go to bed tonight think about the despair Rikiya and Wataru must have felt when he didn't get the role in the anime, just put yourself in their shoes. It's clear that you lack empathy, Davidshill. Try and better yourself as a person.
>When you go to bed tonight think about the despair Rikiya and Wataru must have felt when he didn't get the role in the anime
But Wataru was busy putting out an album at the time.
This is Emporio! Say something nice to him!
how badly did hayato want his daddys cock?
Morikawa would never have perfected the scene that was Kira pretending to be a normal civilian when he first met Josuke
I felt like I was watching a completely different character. Never before has an anime or animated character in general convince me that they were acting so genuinely good it would convince me they were totally innocent
Emporio's design always screamed that Araki didn't really give a fuck about trying to make him look like a child. I more believe that young Jonathan from Phantom Blood looked more like a 12-year old than this thing
To me, Part 4 feels like the true end to the original series
>Incorporates each and all of the living JoJos in some way
>The story feels like a genuine continuation of the previous Part's plot and not feel like some self-contained story that takes place in the continuity rather than adding to it
>It ends reasonably normally, feeling conclusive in its own right while still open to more fun. Not like utterly stopping like Part 5 or erasing the events that happened like Part 6
>Truly the turning point of the series where the shift from giant HnK musclemen into Araki's own identity and art style
>The longest Part
Hell, Part 5 could have taken place during Part 4 and nothing of the plot would have changed except the inane use of Koichi and Jotaro to "introduce" us to Giorno as if we needed them
Yes that's what I said. It kind of takes a bit away from enjoyment of the Part when it actually doesn't really add anything
But Part 6 felt a little long and drawn out lacking in a lot of interesting enemy Stands or users, so I can't say I hate the ending for erasing all that
It's grown on ground where Jesus shed blood and if it's eaten on the New Moon then GRAVITY will wake up the old sea god that's sleeping in Morioh Bay. Bear in mind that Damo and Yasuho have both said it seem like the Wall Eyes are waiting to protect them from something out at sea.
Never played it. Only Jojo game I've played was Golden Wind. Do you have a link comparing the two or anything? I think Anime Kira is excellent though not sure what else this other guy brings to the table.
It'll be a faithful recreation of the manga, so it won't
Unless it adds scenes of Fugo returning, Narancia being buried in his hometown and something more conclusive to Trish other than bonding with Mista for like a few minutes there's not much else you can add to a shitty, rushed ending
I didn't really care for Josuke in the manga, but hearing him speak helped. Will probably be the same for Giorny.
Some small added interactions would be nice too and adding to the ending like >>154890308
>I didn't really care for Josuke in the manga, but hearing him speak helped
Would you like to hear him eating a girl out?
Make it a callback to how Josefumi stomped one of the Apex brothers.
Nope. If it hasn't been announced already then this year is very unlikely since it'll have to be 39 episodes again. If they decide to air in April again like with 4 then they'll probably announce it in October like they did with 4 for a similar kind of hype build up and marketing campaign.
Look Anon, just because he's a pure boy who needs a strong woman in his life doesn't mean he's not into perverted sluts like you
A trailer for the Thus Spoke Rohan OVA is being shown at Anime Japan on March 25th.
Cut out Gold Experience, start with Sleeping Slaves but don't show the twist at the end, just the introduction. Fool everyone into thinking Bruno's taking the mission but it's really him meeting Giorno
Sprinkle more of Sleeping Slaves through out the Part during Mista-relevant arcs while not adapting a single Giorno arc unless Bruno or Mista are involved. After They Called Him Diavolo, cut to after Gold Experience Requiem and finish Sleeping Slaves
Don't even show Giorno in the don's chair, just focus on Mista lamenting how shitty his journey was
I want the few peace moments to be slow paced with the actual fights being fast paced, but with the badass moments being emphasized.
Any Bruno or Diavolo arc should be at least 2 episodes
I do wonder what the budget will be, like can you imagine buying all 13 BDs only get "I am an Alien" tier Thus Spoken Rohan with a completely recycled soundtrack to boot?
What scenes or arcs in the manga really stood out to you, or resonated with you?
For me, it was the Civil War fight. The story of how his fear and selfishness killed thousands gave me chills.
I seriously wonder how they don't make his nipples sensitive.
>"NO! YOU'VE HIT YOUR LIMIT! I'M GONNA PUSH! NOW!"
>rohan uses heaven's door on josuke last second and writes "will follow kira"
>the duwang gang yells after josuke and kira
>kira hears a faint yell from afar
>it was josuke looking angrier than ever
>"B-BAKANA! HOW CAN THIS BE?! HIGASHIKATA JOSUKE AND HIS SHIT HAIR!"
>josuke rushes up against kira due to the rage of his hair being called shit
>killer queen is defenseless now that stray cat is gone
>dust biting is about to finish
>josuke and kira is sent to some unknown snowy place that looks like morioh back in time
>kira gets launched into a flower
>kira gets the angelo treatment and becomes a flower that is now a morioh landmark
>josuke being injured from his battle looks around in the blanket of snow to see a car stuck in the distance
>josuke remembers this scene and familiarity of deja vu
>he proceeds to help the car get out of the snow by taking off his gakuran
>the mother drives off without stopping and goes to a hospital for her sick son
>josuke turns to his back in the field of snow and spots the kira flower
>josuke breathes in and breathes out
>"I feel completely refreshed. This is the GREATest high!"
>all of a sudden time starts reverting back to the way things were
>"Thi-This is the power of Crazy Diamond's Killer Queen: Bites the Dust!"
>josuke is back to where the ambulance was in present time 1999
>the duwang gang walks up slowly
>"So this is the golden heart of Morioh, huh?"
>josuke turns around looking surprised
>"No, this was all a team effort and most importantly thanks to my new stand power"
>everyone looks up to the skies to see reimi and all the other lives that have been lost by kira finally rest in peace
>josuke smiles greatly and poses
>"My Crazy Diamond... is not crash!"
>cue "Great Days -Units Ver.- (EDM Arrangement Ver.)"
>finished Stone Ocean
Well, that was... huh.
I get why people hate it, though. I don't, but, it did basically just erased the timeline of the last five stories. Still, it's not horrible.
Let me rephrase myself; It erased their futures. None of the people in those stories has a life beyond 2012. We're not going to get any more stories following the original timeline, ever.
I think an issue with newfags not understanding that is because it's not clear at the end. All we see are new characters that visually resemble the ones we're introduced to, and then it stops. Similar issue with 5 really, the Part doesn't feel conclusive or hold the reader's hand like every other Part. Some people like that, others ask questions because it's way too vague
Araki was experimental with JoJo after Part 3. I feel like a part of why SBR was so simple was because it wasn't JoJo until the changes were made. Even then, it's a story that still stands on its own with injected elements for the true fan's world to enjoy
God, the condescending snobbery of that post. "Oh don't bother, those plebians are too naive to understand Araki's mastery, ho ho ho~"
It's clear what happened. Under the effect of Pucci's death, the cycle of the universe was shattered, and the universe accelerated while based on those changes. While the immediate effect is that the events of Stone Ocean are basically undone, because the disks that Whitesnake would make have now dissolved (no F.F., no complex stand criminal system) the ripples of such a universe branching out through the timeline would require that everyone save Emporio are changed from the result. The circumstances that brought Irene together with Annakiss and Hermes, and as well as the implications of good relations with her father, mean past events were changed too. And for those to have changed, the circumstances of other events had to have changed, and so on and so on.
In this new paradigm Emporio's landed in, nothing the first five stories showed ever happened. Certain events might have played the same, but the stories as they are are broken
Unless the twist is that the universe Emporio ended up in was the original universe of the first five, and this was in sense a 'prequel' to the true course of events, and our original Jotaro is Irene's father.and not only that, their fates have been broken too.
Meanwhile, back in the first timeline, the sequence of events MIGHT have gone uninterrupted, were Made in Heaven stopped before the acceleration. Had Pucci not started it up again, the story could have just been where Emporio ended up after, but he started it up again, so the original timeline is once again speeding out of control, AND everyone in it knows what will happen to themselves, in whatever fraction of time they have.
The lives of all the people we've known from the past five parts have been fucked, and what will replace them is someone similar but different. Everyone's gone, in all sense of time.
No, I don't think Araki's endings for Parts 5 and 6 were that masterful. I think it comes from someone who started to have no idea what to really do with the series by this point
Pretty sure the point of the ending is that Pucci no longer had any influence in anything. He was erased from the continuity because he was killed in the Made in Heaven process. Anyone directly involved with Pucci were reborn, anyone that haven't we have no clue what they're like
To end a series by saying, "Nothing you ever saw or read isn't canon" is just pure hack shit
Which is part of the reason why I say it confuses newfags. Same people who assume this shit is part of the SBR universe or something. Since we never hear Jotaro's name dropped there's nothing for us to work with
I think that's part of why everyone in these threads are quick to correct with the phrase, "The first 5 Parts still happened" because Parts 5 and 6 have such shitty non-endings
When I described SBR as simple, I meant that as a good thing. Because it's modest and concludes its arc fairly well. Treats the reader with respect
You'd think he would have improved on Speed King's design over a couple of years.
Even though it was foreshadowed the climax was underwhelming and after the fight is over out of nowhere we go into a flashback that takes 5/6 chapters to end which ends up being a bunch of pointless crap, and when we go back to the present we get a jarring jump cut to the final panel
>The part 6 "Everyone died" meme
The only one who really died was Pucci; who was completely erased from existence.
Everyone who had died prior to the first reset were replaced by people who are more or less the exact same (name changes) and, prior to the point in their lives where Pucci could have influenced it, took the same exact actions.
Everyone who survived is the same, again, except for instances in their lives where Pucci could have effected them.
Jotaro, for example, is the same in part 3, but doesn't have to worry about DIO's "trusted friend" and thus ends up being a better dad to Jolyne. Duwang co. is entirely uneffected.
See I've seen some theories from this but I feel ever can't be overly handwaved with just Araki's foppery and whim. Same with Gappy's eyes, Joshu's hair and how everyone freaked out about that 1 panel of Kaato.
I'm going to wait until we see a decent panel of speed King that isn't him sketched or that cover. I said that before but if it becomes expressive like King Crimson then I'm super down for it.
And hey, it's stomach is open. You could literally put food in between the bars and reheat your food. It's a walking microwave.
Here's the only theory you need. Araki doesn't give a shit.
That's how I feel myself Weather.
Araki's whim is one of my favourite things about Jojo.
Dolomiti exposition chapter next month, pretty excited
Back when I was a kid... You know the Mona Lisa, right...?
Okay I just finished part 6 and I have a lot of questions but I guess I'll spread them out over multiple threads to not be an annoying bitch. Here's my impressions in comparison to part 5
>part 5 -
great, but a lot of relationships were unexplored. The crew is fun as fuck
>part 6 -
good with great character dynamics
>part 5 -
non-existant, basic excuse for fights
>part 6 -
the first real attempt at story since part 2. Peaks at Green Child
>part 5 -
I love Diavolo, but I agree with most of the complaints about him
>part 6 -
Pucci is cool with fleshed out backstory. I love how charismatic he was and I'm a bit pissed of that they made him a psycho at the end
>part 5 -
Best in the series.
>part 6 -
Terribly gimmicky and unthreatning a lot of the times. Sky High is by far the worst battle in the series. Dragon's Dream and Jail House Lock were also terrible. Shit like C-Moon, Made in Heaven, Yo-Yo Ma, Bohemian Rhapsody were probably a stand out to me. Everything else was fine. Diver Down is probably my favourite stand ever.
>part 5 -
Meh. Alright, but empty
>part 6 -
Pretty great and a bit depressing
>part 5 -
-Fugo - the best character with the most promise was written out
-Narancias death ruined by bad scans
-No Jotaro, no Josuke, DIO mentioned only once
-Giorno is a bit wasted
>part 6 -
-A bunch of filler stands
-I knew that Araki was forced to end the part early so it really showed to me at the end
-Teasing Giorno but not a single Giorno to be seen
-DIO's sons were interesting but underdeveloped
Overall I'd say 5>6. I'm not even sure why but that's how I feel
>A commercial/trailer for the Thus Spoke Kishibe Rohan OVA will be shown off at Anime Japan 2017 on March 25th along with an exhibition trailer for the current BDs so far.
>Here are more details of the venue:
>Date and time: Saturday, March 25 - 26th, 10:00 ~ 17:00
>Venue: Tokyo Big Sight (3-11-1 Ariake, Koto-ku, 135-0063)
>Booth: Warner Bros. Japan Booth East 5 Hall 【J59】
>Content: Completely new OVA "Thus Spoke Kishibe Rohan" setting exhibition, CM screening
You mean this?
Calm your tits, Jesus. I'm not that guy but misunderstanding Made In Heaven is a widely-observed phenomenon and that's heavily in part due to people speedreading and then getting angry about it, look at all the people who claim Pucci was trying to destroy the universe and that he killed everyone.
There is -everything- indicating that the other stories went the same without them stealing the spotlight of part 6's ending. It's hammered in multiple times that the universe has a predictable and set nature - in the first universe that Pucci creates, this is particularly noted with the bootleg Jolyne who's still imprisoned, and the bootleg Jotaro who she has a poor relationship with coming to try and help her. Not to mention Emporio's lack of agency until Pucci changes his fate FOR him.
After that happens, there's some trippy shit with Pucci's death, but we specifically see an ant (and Emporio too) travel to yet another universe exactly as they were. What was the point of showing the (completely unchanged) ants unchanged path if not to say 'this is yet another universe where things aren't fundamentally changed'? Something as tiny as an ant wasn't changed at all - why would the entire history of a character like, I dunno, Guido Mista (who had absolutely nothing to do with Pucci or MIH) be changed?
And the rest of it is just using your brain to figure out what happened and the consequences thereof. Without Pucci, DIO never had that shit in his journal, Jotaro relaxed a bit, and his daughter was able to have more of a relationship with her father. "The lives of all the people we've known from the past five parts have been fucked" is an absurd claim.
What aren't you doing reaction videos, anon? People would probably pay you money if they are lonely enough and a sudden leave of absence deprives them of their videos.
Why aren`t you drawing JoJo characters as niggers ? People would probably pay you money if they are opressed enough.
This one is hard. If I read them simultaneously definitely Jolyne. She had more screentime and more visible personality. But Giorno grew on me a lot since I've read VA so I'd have to say Giorno. I don't like ranking jojos because for me it'd be Giorno>/=Josuke=Jolyne=Joseph=/>Jotaro>Jonathan
How does Giorno grow on anyone? I'm honestly curious.
I tried really hard to like him but I couldn't find anything. He barely talks to his comrades - although he's presented as being really skilled at reading people and working with them, I never got the impression he was at all interested in forming bonds or making friends. When they're being funny and charming with each other, he sits on the sidelines. His fights are largely mediocre - his brief role in the Illuso and Ghiaccio fights, Baby Face etc. Him figuring out stand-abilities feels stilted and rehearsed rather than organic when other characters do it, particularly because it often involves making the other characters temporarily stupid to make him look good in comparison. Bruno, Mista, Narancia and Abbacchio all outshine him. His stand is a mess that kills the tension in the part and which didn't even have properly defined powers at first.
What am I missing here? What have people found to like?
I can barely get past the niggerfying
I can barely get past Emporio and Polnareff not being niggerfied
I can barely get past one of those patties being raw as fuck
But of all things,
socks with sandals? I'm pissed. Tumblrinas get out.
Hermes is always drawn as black in fan art, I guess because of her dreads? She's specifically referred to as hispanic/mexican I think?
Sure can't wait for the part 6 anime when david animates a slightly tanned Hermes and THAT side of the fanbases throws a shitfit about whitewashing.
>White artist who probably thinks she's progressive
>Black characters looking like racist caricatures you'd find in a /pol/ comic
How do these bitches get into doing this shit? It's almost like they draw this shit to get validation from other white bitches instead of wanting to make a good representation of other races, baka
Giorno is the tactician of the group. A lot of his time spent is actually to help make other people look better. And I like that. I like his nobility and modesty. He sees things like they are. He was willing to get himself attacked by Soft Machine because he knew Abbacchio didn't want to pull out his Stand. Seeing Mista go so far in White Album moved him to take direct action on his own. When Mista and Fugo respectively start trying to suck his dick and go "Giorno you did damn good", he dismisses it and reminds them "hey, it wasn't just me, you did shit too." As a whole i'm fond of his deductive and analytical nature, and his straight-laced appearance and impression which hides a more ruthless and dangerous soul. When he's sick of your shit, he's sure to make you suffer. At the same time there is a nobility and a purity you can see. He feels regret and is unhappy with the realization that he didn't save Buccellati, and Narancia's death really brought out he sentimental side in him. He's such a strong, ambitious, ruthless boy with the power to be a leader and achieve his goal, but at the same time you also get these glimpses of humanity within him.
I guess that's something but to me it just adds up to him being a poorly-written and unlikable character who, like you said, is less a character and more just a means to an end. The dick-sucking that the other characters give him is particularly insufferable too. There is nothing special about Giorno Giovanna (especially compared to the others) but obviously I'm expected to believe there is and get hit over the head with it, it doesn't help me consider him any less forced.
What's special is that he has a dream. He says it like 4 times. He's just some kid, and the others joined the gang because they had nowhere to go and their lives were basically over. Now they have a youth willing to join the gang on purpose, despite having his whole life ahead of him. It seems ridiculous but it's a big deal, and Giorno knows it. Narancia feels lost without being given orders. Abbacchio is the same way. The crew of VA is a bunch of lost souls, with the exception of Giorno, who knows exactly what his goal is and hasn't given up on life yet, and the others see that in his ambition and how seriously dedicated he is to the team. For how young he is, he shows he's about as strong of character as Buccellati. And Buccellati was even too afraid to take action against the boss until he found Giorno, who shared his goal.
I posted this a couple of days ago but Giorno is basically Dio without abusive childhood (at least late childhood straightened Giorno up). He's a charismatic leader that would do anything to achieve his goal. Cruel, but kind hearted. Has a natural ability to be likeable without doing anything, just like Dio. Can easily convince people to do what he wants them to do. He's acting like some sort of mentor for Mista an Trish to an extent
Then there's Jonathan side of him. The feeling of justice, the respect of life etc.
Plus I love his design and his fights were really enjoyable to me (Man In The Mirror was a huge asspull tho). Also I'm a sucker for more "reserved" characters (for example I really liked Knov from HxH and that's part of the reason why I love Fugo an Weather)
So people actually like it. Why? It's based on something that Araki discovered by dicking around the wikipedia (not to mention that it was proven to be an optical illusion), the fight has no tension and it's just unlike Jojo to create a mythical creature when the Jojo world is our world + stands. The Weather reveal at the end was great though.
Also I remembered another grippe with part 6
-Weather and Jolyne interact ONLY FUCKING ONCE IN THE ENTIRE PART
Naruto has a dream, Luffy has a dream, having a dream isn't anything new or exciting and definitely not in the way it was presented. Johnny's goals were much more organic and compelling than Giorno's, and less generic too.
The rods were a well-known and famous cryptid in Japan at the time. If you have passing knowledge of the rods (which most Japanese readers would have) then you could have figured out what was going on before it was spelled out. And I can't fathom how you're willing to accept magical invisible punchghosts but not a random cryptid.
And try rereading the fight, you can't just post character-analysis of how wonderful Giorno is and then write Rykiel and his fight off as a load of shit. And 'no tension'? Get real, their helicopter crashed, Hermes was out of commission, Emporio was pissing blood and Jolyne set herself on fire, without them having a healer/savior like Giorno around. It had higher stakes than pretty much anything post-Baby Face in VA.
It might be just me but I don't find losing heat that threatning of a power. Plus I knew that his power was rod manipulation and I knew that rods were an optical illusion so you can imagine my annoyance when Araki made them into huge tampoon monsters that eat heat and travel super fast without hitting anything. If they were named differently and created by Sky High it would've been a different story. Also the setting is a sunny pond with green all around. Doesn't convey the thread level to me. It came after super fun, tense and overpowered Bohemian Rhapsody so I expected a lot more.
Rikiel was a nice character (like all DIO's sons) with a nice backstory and character progression. His design was fucking awful
So what upsets you is that Araki had a different take on a make-believe animal, and that said make-believe animal existed in the JoJo universe rather than being one of Rykiel's creations? I don't get that at all. It'd also fuck up Rykiel's backstory of being constantly ill due to the rods being drawn to him without him knowing or being able to control them.
And the colored scans aren't very good at capturing tone in general, look at this scene where a much-loved and established character is mutilated and left for dead.
Name a scene in Jojo's that's more badass than this. You can't.
Ok Jojobrony :^D
Nope try again.
I mean part 5 had a lot brighter color palette than part 6 but I se what you mean. Every plus that you listed just doesn't click for me. I still see a guy dressed as a cow with a bike in front of a pond sucking up heat from his opponents. I didn't feel the stakes, I didn't feel the threat, I didn't feel immersion and the entie fight I was 100% sure that everyone will live. Much smaller in a scale than Bohemian Rapsody and Underworld
Is sassy black lunch lady the most philosophical character in JoJo?
When is the next event that David could reveal part 5 at
The Jolyne lighting herself on fire went on for too long
Honestly Donatello was the best of DIO's kids. Didn't get a shitty meme ability like Ungalo and Rykiel or have an entire Part to themselves of being overshadowed by everyone else
DIO's Part 6 kids also made Giorno feel much less special and more pointless
Good points but the Part 6 crew had the least amount of characater interactions.
Yes Araki was forced to end because he was seen back then as Kubo(that explains the feedback Part 6 got) its at the same level and Bleach, meaning its worse than Toriko.
Hm~~~ Tsuru~~~gi~~~~, what are you doing he~~~re??
>Trying to meme 4 and 7 under the bus
Cut your losses. Setting, fights and Stands are really all it's got going for it if people are willing to put up with Bruno unzipping up his heart for like 5 minutes straight
>You are not allowed to dislike something
>Quads prove Part 5 worst Part
>You aren't allowed to set aside your differences in tastes and become good friends
>Trying to prove superiority by posting Gappy
Agreed. alot of shit flinging here and there
No, I'm just grieving over how this legendary manga will never have a real anime adaptation. It fucking pisses me off, and then people try and defend the shitty anime with "le david hatefags!!". FUCK, IT PISSES ME OFF! List 5 good episodes from the Diamond anime and tell me why you think they're good. I know for a fact I can easily shoot down your arguments, Davidshills.
Why do you think that Gappy projects superiority?
Well since you are giving me an excuse to post good part 4 episodes
RHCP part 2 for the msuic direction and some of the best looking fight scenes
SHA because of how terrifying the (albeit a bit overused) second bomb theme felt throughout the episode
July 14th(Enigma boy) for showing his theme showing how creepy he really is and his stand effects were literal godsend
July 14th(Cheap Trick) using a pale color scheme when rohan is in complete despair and shows Koichi his back
CDIU for mostly constant non quality shots and great music direction during brawls and josuke hiding
It's the little things like Anasui-FF's "deal", Hermes, FF and Jolyne being bros with them teaching FF how to act like a human, Anasui being mad when Jolyne hugged Weather (even though it wasn't Weather it still counts), Guess being nice to Jolyne after being beaten the shit out of, Weather + Anasui interactions etc.
C'mon anon, are we really that desperate for a feel of superiority?
> I'm just grieving over how this legendary manga will never have a real anime adaptation
Jojo is cool and all but that "legendary" status isn't that impressive when theres countless of other series in the same country with that title
Its just another one of the bunch
>you will never carress Jolyne's bullet wounds in order to maximize blood flow to help them heal faster
>you will never reassure her that her scars won't look too bad and are kinda sexy
>Trying to shift the goalposts and failing miserably
Wanting to be the leader to improve things in your own image is generic as fuck, my man. Naruto wants to be Hokage, Luffy wants to be the pirate king, and Giorno wants to be the Don.
Something being a common goal doesn't necessarily make it bad, but the way Giorno's ambition was presented was nothing special, much like the rest of how he was handled.
Reminder that judging Araki's art by looking at Shueisha's coloring is ridiculous.
While I agree that SO's style is not the best, the color schemes used in that are offensively bad, and obliviously take away from the original art.
Nope, the part 6 crew had way more character-interactions than 5. It could've benefited from more, but as-is it was an improvement.
The issue with 6 is that most of the characters interacted with Jolyne over each other when in the group, whereas 5 had the opposite problem where Giorno barely spoke to his team at all.
Anasui was fine, but I was disappointed that he stopped being a she, if they wanted a guy so much, then the editors shouldve forced Araki to develop Weather Report, and u know give him a personality.
And no, the whole having amnesia bullshit doesnt work when u have Gappy, and even Kaneki in Tokyo Ghoul with that illness yet they got more development than WR who shouldve been a Main Character and not that garbage shota Emporio.
>RHCP part 2
Tons of QUALITY and choppy animation. Also bland CG backgrounds and colors
The SHA theme was extremely overused and the entire arc was butchered. They played the bland "danger theme" when Koichi was talking shit to Kira when they could've played a cool insert song or something.
No. Just no. Absolutely mutilated the original pacing of the arcs and added unnecessary anime-only scenes.
>CDIU for mostly constant non quality shots and great music direction during brawls and josuke hiding
Go and rewatch CDIU. constant QUALITY, generic music, and the sakuga was extremely unimpressive compared to other anime. I especially hate how they completely butchered the scene where Kira turns around to face Josuke. That was one of the most powerful panels in the manga but was flat and lifeless in the anime. Not to mention the generic music during that scene when it should've been completely silent except for heavy rainfall.
>""""""bland"""" danger scene
>hating "Sudden Battle"
>hating July 14th
>""""""""""butchered"""""""" the face reveal
nice to know where your bad taste lies
they amuse him, smaller inmates can be used for fodder while fighting Priest predator
>Not thinking July 14th was the best shit
Those last few arcs were dragged out way too long, especially having stupid shit like Cheap Trick take place after My Dad is Not My Dad
The difference is that Giorno actually has good reason to want change, the society he lives in is not a good one.
I haven't keeped up with One Piece for the longest time but Luffy's desire to be Pirate King was never even remotely similar to Giorno's situation. Never read Naruto, but I'm pretty sure he wanted to be Hokage to show his worth to the people who had look down on him.
I do believe the presentation that went along with it was very good, why do you dislike it?
There being a reason behind it doesn't make it any more satisfying, particularly when the characters forming relationships with their allies is one of the best parts of the series.
And the only one who did that after his initial introduction to the gang was Abbacchio, the others didn't look down on him at all and some (like Mista) were already idolizing him as early as Buccellati becoming a Capo.
They could've played something like this during the scene where Koichi stands up to Kira: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SUL0269awIk
It would've fit the mood much better.
>hating "Sudden Battle"
Yes. That song is basic danger music. Would you ever listen to it outside of the anime? no.
>""""""""""butchered"""""""" the face reveal
yep. Compare that scene to the manga
anime version has tons of empty space and no onomatopoeia.
It's a great arc. I highly recommend watching the Civil War Leitmotif on youtube if you havent already. The music fits the arc very will imo.
Part5 doesnt count
found the Kira/Pucci fag
Hayato is an actual child and Children are already annoying but Emporio didnt scream anymore than a bystander in a fight saying shit like "H-HES BEHIND YOU" "LOOK OUT ABOOOVE!!!" "H-HES FINISHED!!"
>I honestly enjoyed Diavolo's struggles more than anything Giorno did.
So did Araki apparently
When I read SBR I feared Lucy was going to be like Emporio and Hayato, basically crying and doing jackshit reminding me of Smurfette from the Smurfs(one of the most annoying characters in that show), but I was wrong, she had an interesting backstory and her relationship with Steven felt very realistic.
How she killed Alternative Diego was logical.
Can't wait for all that Yukako screen time to finally make her relevant. David not using her in the later arcs was ungodly lame
I've told you before, I don't like Giorno and I don't like how Giorno's story was told. It ticks none of my boxes. His personality bored me, his motivations and backstory bored me, most of his fights bored me and his roles in other peoples fights made me roll my eyes.
And out of all the JoJos, Giorno's motivations are probably the most generically heroic. Jonathan wanted to avenge his family, Joseph just wanted to survive, Jotaro wanted to save his mother, Josuke just wanted to keep his town safe while being an average teenager, Jolyne wanted to save her father and the world, but none of them sought positions of power to do this with. The fact that Giorno's motive is so similar to characters like Naruto's and Luffy's does nothing to endear him or his story to me either.
>inb4 'lmao mafia isn't generically heroic'
The mafia like the mystery gangster and Buccellati were established as being the greatest source of potential good and the ones in control of generally everything in Italy. The police-force (the only other organization really mentioned much in the part) was established to be ineffective and corrupt, so it's no wonder Giorno chose the path he did.
All villains in Jojolion have been btfo by female characters.
Twins by Karera
Damo by Hatto
Dolomite by Yasuho.
All is missing is Kyo getting her moment, I could see her btfoing either Joubin or Kaato.
>They find a random kid on the street with Down Syndrome and tell him to act natural
Damo was the tops. Everything he did left an impression. I'm really curious what angle Araki is going to go for with Jobin or whoever the main baddie is in order to top him.
Why didn't Araki just have one of my members of La Squadra work for Diavolo's defense squad instead?
Yeah, those aren't great. I still do think that the Anime is generally above average, and pretty enjoyable.
David can still put out some good shots where it really counts, too.
It also helps if you don't pause and make a whole "look at this dood" meme video for every single slightly weird frame
I'm asking about where the execution failed you, not if it did. I got it, you don't like Giorno, he bored you, whatever, I wanted to know why to have an actual discussion with you.
Reducing the motivation of the other Jojo protagonists into a sentence isn't explaining anything. Jonathan and Joseph reasons for fights are more complex than that and executed excellently. But Jotaro, Josuke and, to a lesser degree, Jolyne are all very weakly presented and played upon through the story.
And "save mother from iminnent death", "protect town my from evil" are definitely "generic" as well.
You keep bringing Luffy and Naruto's motivations up for some reason, having a motivation is the strong point of these two, regardless if you like it or not, their goal takes their stories places, and that's what the protagonist should do, and what Giorno's dream, as matter of fact, does too.
Reactive protagonists are generally not a good thing, in Jonathan and Joseph's case, it works, but in the others, not so much.
Not that person, but Giorno is the epitome of reactive protagonist
His entire arc he's sitting with thumbs up his ass while everything else goes on. Never once does he actively pursue interest in pushing for his dream, it's just given to him on a golden platter at the end by Buccellati, who was much more active and had easily more emotion, action and motivation than Giorno ever did
Dumbing down the whole team to play up Giorno's usefulness is not good. It's a similar problem people have with Part 2's cast, except there it's much worse and more noticeable. VA just stops because Giorno gets his dream, it doesn't end conclusively and feels empty inside because all the good characters bar Mista are fucking dead
Giorno's nowhere near as proactive as you think he is. Like you said, half of the shit he does is simply enable other, better characters to act. And this line about 'reactive protagonists are generally not a good thing' is extremely your opinion too, given that tons of good protags are reactive and tons of forgettable ones aren't. Look at characters like Eren Yaeger.
And I'm going to have to disagree really strongly about this claim that somehow Joseph and Jonathan are better protagonists than the ones that came after them, particularly given how much Araki's writing has improved since then.
I didn't see this but it's a pretty good summary of my issues with VA's handling of him in general. In comparison to the others, Giorno was drab and cold.
He also suffered heavily from never being allowed to look bad, too - Jotaro is supposedly the super-cool, aloof type, but he gets tons of moments where he's humiliated or left helpless, and it helps paint a picture of him as a complete character who we get to see in a wide range of situations.
Giorno was kind of tossed to the side by Araki up until the end when none of the other good characters were still alive. I really resent how little he utilized him considering the potential there with his father.
Fuck whoever says Speed Kings ability is weak or lame. Burnt the fuck out of my hand today and that shit hurts so fucking bad. Imagining this pain at a higher intensity and feeling that pain instantly makes this feel like nothing.
Now I know why speed Kings face is so fucking angry.
>70% of the characters in part 5 died
>He thinks this is a bad burn
I've had ones that are worse than that
but the placement and the severity of it are probably nothing to laugh at. Hope that it heals soon Anon. If you can, getting some sort of cooling burn-cream and wrapping it tightly in a skintight film (not sure of the name but you can get both from the chemist) should sort it right out because the pain comes from air getting to the wounds.
I should clarify that, in my eyes, Part 5 is as much about Giorno as it is about Bruno, in a similar vein to SBR with Johnny and Gyro.
They are complementary and Giorno is faulty if we take Bruno out of the picture.
They are always thinking about how they will make their next step towards taking the boss down together.
When Bruno passes away, his ambition, who had been brought back to life by Giorno, validates Giorno's dream fully.
Enabling characters who had forgone their morality is something very valid in a group centered story.
I'll give you Joseph, but Jonathan's character arc, motivation and relationship with Dio are miles ahead of what Josuke and Jotaro in their own parts. You might have enjoyed the others more, but there is no denying to that.
I like Giorno over her, but you're right, Jolyne's motivations are constant and never pushed aside. She does the whole inheritor thing much better than Jotaro.
You really believe saving Holly and protecting the town for grandpa were played nicely? I'm not saying it was shit or anything like that, but I do believe it was weak.
Honestly Part 5 wasn't ever about Giorno. Sleeping Slaves is proof of that
If you take Giorno out of the equation all you lose is the white mage and it infinitely raises the stakes. Not that it matters because Diavolo was boned by fate to begin with
His mom should have gotten an abortion tbqh
I agree, it's about the whole team.
If you take Giorno out literally nothing happens tho. Bruno remains a sleeping slave to Diavolo, and so do the others.
Why did she let that pig do it to her? Was she a virgin?
nice try rock scum
No, quite frankly I don't think 'I want to be the boss gangstar because a gangster was nice to me as a kid' is some sort of deep, compelling, magical backstory any more or less than 'I want to protect my town because some weird guy saved me in the snow' or 'I want to save my mother because I don't want her to die.'
And unlike Giorno, Jotaro and Josuke both develop and form meaningful bonds over the course of their stories. Jotaro slowly opens up to his friends and his final battle with DIO forces him to adapt even further, Josuke makes a lot of friends and becomes a source of inspiration to people like Yuya and a source of terror for people like Kira, and both of them are presented as complex human beings. Giorno is just there to move the plot along and fades into the background in terms of actual character.
Damo was charming and sweet to her and she genuinely loved him. She was a beautiful model but out of all the handsome men I'm sure would be happy to date her, she fell for Damo because of his personality. She's not remotely a slut.
I want Jonathan and Erina to make intimate, passionate love to each other while Dio is a severed head and can only watch
Does Joubin make that thing do BDSM blowjobs or something? What the fuck is wrong with its mouth/outfit.
Giorno's motive and ambitions are honestly very poor especially compared to the rest of the Joestars, who had to face world conquering threats (and Kira).
Giorno basically just wanted to secure power in the gang because he didn't like Diavolo and wanted to beat his head in. He didn't know Diavolo's backstory, he barely knew about the terrible things he had done, all he knew was that he sold drugs and that he was the boss. Diavolo didn't deserve his fate when all he did was sold drugs, which were in high demand, to people who bought it willingly.
>tfw to smart for protagonist
Diavolo used Doppio as bait, his death loops should have been him reliving himself getting gangbanged as a kid forever.
The impact of drug-abuse wasn't shown enough to be taken seriously. There are only two drug-users actually seen in the part, the kid at the start and the hobo at the end. Buccellati's background had drug-traders in it, but the drugs themselves weren't the cause of his suffering.
We only see the one druggie kid at the start
They never even had a conversation. Buccellati, Narancia and Mista all talked to and cared about Trish more than Giorno did.
I'll disagree with you on Diavolo though, one of the first things he was shown to do was torture a couple of homos to death, something that was completely out of line given what they'd done. He also arguably used, abused, forgot and abandoned Doppio too, and shattered Buccellati's trust in him with the Trish stunt.
>posting the anime
How can you something that which has no soul?
>posting the meme adaptation
I never said it was complex, magical and deep,
even if it is more than the other two you postedbut it is compelling to me. The fact that you mentioned Josuke's hairstyle origin story instead of the promise he made when Ryohei died further proofs my point.
Giorno is a million times more inspirational to the people around him than Josuke ever was. Not that there is anything wrong with that, Josuke is great, but that's not his strong point.
Saying that Giorno didn't develop meaningful relationships with the crew is straight up denial.
He's shown caring for the others countless times. The guy is literally in tears when Narancia dies.
Honestly, by now it just feels like you're shit posting.
It's not the OVA you wanks
Its fan art with a similar aesthetic
Josuke gets two heroic motives, both of which are pretty simple and similar to each other.
And as I said before, Giorno being some magical savior who the others cream themselves over feels a million times more forced than anything Josuke did in his part. Giorno is barely a person, he's an idea. And his 'caring for the others countless times' is ridiculously overdone at the death-scenes given that he was never shown trying to get to know or bond with the people around him, they were virtually complete strangers and it was yet another thing about him that feels forced and crap.
>'U don't like Giorno so u shitposter u shitposter'
Fuck off with that.
>Posting some shittily-resized still of a gif
Don't do that
>The one time Giorno shows any expressions is when someone else is in his body
i bet you excuse eyes of heaven's shit campaign and gameplay because of fanservice
>Not using the Kira who is an actual jojo in the fav jojo square
>Fav part 7 stand not being that KQ knock off
It's alright. I like Part 4 anime's colors because they aren't drab and boring like Part 3's were. Part 3 looks like ass
You should've changed the sky though if you were going so far as to change the uniforms
>doppio was a sad and lonely kid who wanted nothing more than to fight by diavolo's side and hear his voice
>not wanting the anime to pay tribute to this classic video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mNNhvcVbe2A
>Parts 6,7 and 8 stands
I dont get it