>there are people who liked the live-action Night Fall arc
>no liking Nightfall's best arc
It's like you can't appreciate true art
>climax of the show
>Akko is about to get attacked by an evil witch's spell, but Ursula sacrifices herself to block the attack
>Ursula lies on Akko's hands, and they have one last emotional talk
>A vocal-only version of the ED starts playing in the background
>Ursula fades away right before MATA ASHITA NE, and the episode immediately ends with Akko crying loudly
Are we agreed this pic is cursed?
Still not as bad as shoehorned romance and characters.
Here is a video of Connie's squeal if anybody wants to hear it
http://puu.
sh/uS9Uz/52a3688996.webm
This thread has been blessed by Lucifer, our God-King
>>154873666
A weapon to surpass metalgear
>>154873714
No
my last roll
>>154873474
>1280x720
>1.02MB
>.png
What the fuck are you doing?
This is the only show I've watched in like 2 years, what's wrong with me?
>>154873474
Barbara puking might be the highlight of that scene for me, even more than Sucy melting the minotaur
>>154873732
Fuck off
Anybody got the vainilla constanze greentext?
>>154873714
>>154873783
>>154873787
I've seen enough.
>>154873800
You have a problem with it being 1280x720?
Is it moral to have sex with Akko since she's mentally challenged?
>>154873855
Bahahaha
Confirmed
>>154873855
>>154873855
Checked.
>>154873855
YAY!
>>154873802
Itscute.Its the only seasonal anime I've watched all year and honestly I'm not inclined to change that at this point.
>>154873855
Oh thank god I hope this shuts up the dubfags for good.
>>154873855
finally, shit was getting tiresome
Barbera's cute when she's puking.I'll bet 30 cents that she has a fetish for throwing up
>>154873863
I have a problem with a 1280x720 image being 1.02MB.
>>154873919
Sucy is still shit though.
>>154873800
Apologies, it's the only good one I had.
Yeah !!
>>154873800
>>154873844
>>154873855
>>154873900
Sucy dubfags BTFO
>>154873967
It's the gloves that make the cuteness pop out.
>>154873863
use .jpg for anything but solid colour images.
>>154874013
>She's afraid of germs and gently pulling off the gloves would be the most intimate experience you could ever have.>Constanze handholding is deemed an eldritch secret and can destabilize the balance of the universe
>>154873924
>>154873924
I feel the greentexts coming
>>154873804
I don't think I ever noticed that. Neat.
This isFrank
>>154874079
>She's afraid of germs
Regardless of the fact she wears gloves, I have a difficult time imagining that. Like, I doubt she'd manage to just keep her gloves dirty.
>>154874168
Punished Frank: A Man Friendzoned by His Waifu
there's a lot of vaseline in constanze's gloves
>>154873804
nobully
I need some fucking unnecessary and uncharacteristically bleak drama
>>154874221
Wanna bully.Wanna turn her into a bunny
So which hat will each of them be wearing when they become the new 9 witches
>>154874269
>LWA episode 12:
>Jasminka goes into town to get an abortion
>>154874269
Frowny Chariot
>>154873924
>why does puking while cumming feel so good?!
>>154873804
Really now?
>>154874333
Give her the tounge
>>154874438
Do yourself a favor and shut up
>>154874269
Someone may have that greentext of the aftermath of Sucy killing herself on hand.
>>154873924
Are we getting fucking Puke fetishes here now?
What the fuck? Did I miss the episode where Akko learns invisibility magic?
>>154874269
Constanze subsists on machine reparations and selling her gadgets because money's tight.
>>154874404
Poor Alcor has to put up with this tard
>>154874400
At least it's not farting.
haha
Am I one of the few who actually enjoyed episode 10? It was one of my favorites. Not because of the "romance", but because it made Akko actually endearing and worth supporting. She's been spouting the same stuff over and over again but this is the first time it came off as genuine instead of annoying.
Why are sucytards so cancerous? Go spam your dubs shit on /s4s/ or something.
>>154874404
Akko is way too OP now.
I blame Ursula and Druid sensei.
>>154874269
During the holidays Amanda just lives in the shed outside the school
>>154874450
He clearly found it hilarious.
>>154874404
I don't understand why you would just post a picture of some background shelves and pictures.
>>154874480
Sucy attracts that kind of ilk
>>154874538
I resent that kind of accusation.
>>154874538
Trash girl trash fanbase, makes sense.
welgom to land of maggigs
>>154874479
Episode 10 is legit. Her relationship with Andrew really sells her character, mostly because he seems to be the only one affected by her. Sucy might be but "kills" that part of her, Lotte seems weirded out by it, Diana is boring as fuck, and everyone else is an asshole.
However, her dancing like a retard on the fountain and making Andrew smile makes you go "You know maybe there's something to what she's saying beyond childishness".
I don't really care for the romance and probably would have preferred Andrew's reaction simply be Diana's, but then the /u/posting would be fucking unbearable so I'll just deal with it.
Also if the recent episode is something to go by Diana isn't supposed to be affected by Akko's "Yay-magic" yet, instead going down a darker path (maybe, just speculation).
>>154874479
>Implying that you didn't find her character endearing after she broke through a forbidden door, turned to a fishman, and set a raging lesbian loose
>>154874604
Anon, I'm going to slap you.
>>154874526
Nigga are you blind?
That's Ursula's ass right there
>>154874168
>>154874194
>>154874479
Most people loved 10. Not because of the romance (although it seems like the only people that complain about it talk about romance) but because it was a fun, hilarious episode. Akko a cute.
>>154874641
>post lobotomy Chariot
>>154874479
>Am I one of the few who actually enjoyed episode 10?
No
>>154874817
to be fair, those are misleading choices
>>154874832
thatsthejoke.jpg
>>154874404
Why're you posting Akari? This isn't a Yuru Yuri thread.
>>154874817
>strawpoll
>no option for "didn't like it but still like the show"
Does anyone actually think this is legit or is it one big troll?
>>154873637
is Night Fall bookkino?
>>154874817
>***,477位/***,478位 (**1,540 pt) [*,**5予約] 2017/04/19 Little Witch Academia
I love that Trigger keeps fucking up this series with two crappy pretty dudes and forced romance bullshit. Then make up some cheapass excuse like they thought about bringing boys since the OVAs. Why didn't they do it while they were at it, then? Things would've been different.
This is why you don't fuck with the fans, kids. Don't change the formula if they like it very much and want to keep it like that.
-anon from the stalker thread yesterday
Reminder that Akko is for happy and yay, and not for lewd
>>154874883
>"anon" from the stalker thread
Nobody's buying it, stop pretending
>>154874672
is Sucy a closeted lesbian?
>>154874805
fixed shrapnel colour
>>154874883
(you)
Stalker you need to read Tattun's posts, or stop shitposting
>Trigger doesn't lose a dime over bad sales
>The staff wanted to add males into LWA for quite a while
>>154874924
shitpost soon, fellow stalker
>>154874894
por que no las dos
>>154874932Akkosexualwho isn't, really?
>>154874668
diana's character is merely a foil that has to work together with akko eventually to make a conciunctio oppositorum, as they get over each others differences in approach where diana is a very studious and by-the-books technical master and akko is an overly optimistic but childish dreamer who follows the nose of passion
they're meant to work together rather than against each other like a yin yang, they just don't realize it, and if i had to excuse it, it's a common anime setting for rivals, but i don't like excusing it through cliches
i think the problem is people assume diana's character is all about her pride in herself and her heritage, but that really fails to look at the bigger picture of her drawn by episode 2
so you're right, she's not supposed to be readily affected by her yay magic or get convinced merely through akko's rhetoric and fountain dancing, her shell is actually the hardest to crack of all characters in the show, even that of andrew
which is why i find it funny that people say andrew is a discount diana, as andrew's simple obstacle is his fear of his dad as he acquiesces to his demands to stop doing things like piano
but it's clear he's already eroding that connection by doing things like play piano
>>154874962
>The staff wanted to add males into LWA for quite a while
refer to the post, that is just a cheapass excuse
>>154873924
>Hannah walks in on Barbera masturbating
>drool covers the floor in front of her, and Barbera has four of her fingers deep in her throat
>>154875045
Is your shift key broken? Proper punctuation and capitalization are a must, anon.
>>154875101
OH< SORRY ABOUT THAT
>>154874894
>mfw this was a much more carefree and dreamy Akko than the Akko we have now
>>154875045
English better not be your first language.
>>154875089
STOP
>>154875152
it's not, i'm guamish
>>154875234
Dude what,
You're a polynesian or what?
>>154875073
How is that an excuse? They barely had time to flesh out ideas, so many were thrown out. Imagine if we haven't funded the second ova and it ended up being 20 minutes like the first? 5 minute long sequences would be 15 seconds worth of cut frames at best, and that's only if they decided on keeping all of what was in that ova. Now that they have all this time in the TV series they can do a whole bunch of shit.
>>154875073
Anything can be a "Cheapass excuse" if you hate it enough
>>154875269
guamish
>>154875045
>Faggots replying to this not understanding this despite the lack of puntuation
Can't tell if they really don't understand or just are analblasted Andrewfags without adding anything.
Your post is probably the best description of Andy's and Diana's characters so far, and it can help to finally put to rest those "Discount Diana" posts.
>>154875318
So do you make guac flavored furniture or something?
>>154873683
>AIJOU YUUJOU all over again
>>154875318
Yeah, that's the only language from Guam that is not English.
Toss the leaf skirt and go to school.
>>154875210
No one's gonna die. Folks thought KLK was gonna have majors dead and it never happened.
>>154875337
It's like they want me to talk like I have a stick up my ass, or something.
but they are pretty much like the diana to my akko-lite speech, demanding formality and all, and letting their subordinate pals bully me about my textual intercourse, what a bunch of dianafags they are
>>154875210
>See Diana, that's why you don't go around reading cursed books, now Akko will have to take care of you while Ursula sensei finds a cure.
>>154875089
>Hannah gets sick with the flu
>Barbera helps take care of her
>Hannah can't help but notice that Barb is watching her v e r y intently
>She does throw up eventually, and Barbera starts to unconsciously caress herself
>Hannah tells her to fuck off with that and go empty her bucket
>Barbera obeys with a huge smile on her face
>a smile replaced with a disappointed frown after Hannah exclaims that she's going to kick her ass to hell and back if she finds out that she decided to drink it or do anything else fucked up
TIME FOR WITCHES WITH GUNS
>>154875121
This is how a yay dies. Not all at once, but slowly, gradually, like a fading candle. You don't notice it go out.
>>154875445
my favorite time
>>154875282
In the end there were no boys in the OVAs, and if they were the OVAs wouldn't have been nearly as good. Since the OVAs didn't have the shoehorned romance or characters, they should have just stuck with the spirit of the OVAs instead of shitty shoehorned romance and characters that add NOTHING to the show.
>>154875463
This won't kill her yay, it will only make it grow stronger once she figures out she's slowly making her dream a reality.
>>154875445
>>154875445
special thanks to anon from last thread
>>154875445
>>154875625
>That Tiny Barbara
She's adorable. I just wanna toss her in the air
>>154875547
N O B O Y S
>>154873855
wow
>>154875547
>people are still this TRIGGERed about based Andrew
W e w
>>154875664
Tomato gang in your pic is alright since they weren't shoehorned. I specifically meant "love interests" like Andrew and Frank.
I'm really glad best boy, pic related, was added.
>>154875445
>>154875445
>>154875045
>they're meant to work together rather than against each other like a yin yang, they just don't realize it
That's not quite it. In episode 2, when Diana read the spell for Akko, Akko accepted her help without issues. If they haven't gotten any closer since then, or work together again, it's because Diana is keeping her distance. Akko is always open, even to Diana if she ever got the stick out of her ass.
The problem is, Diana doesn't want be the one helping the hero. This might sound too meta, but she wants to the be the hero herself, the one to save the school, the one to save magic. And yeah, part of the reason is her pride. Of course, there's probably more to it, but that's part of it.
Akko and Diana won't be able to work together until Diana accepts that she's not the hero, Akko is. But it will take a lot of humility to accept that. She'll probably have to make a huge mistake before she gets to that point in her character development.
>>154875721
It's "Andō-Ryu" m8
Akko's long nose from the OVA should've been a regular part of her design.
Prove me wrong.
>>154874817
>hating an entire series after one bad episode
or
>loving it unconditionally
or
>no opinion
i feel like there's an option missing here
>>154875887
also the leaf pony
>>154875664
>tfw these guys with no magic gave Amanda and Akko the literal ass kicking of a lifetime
witches get stitches
No matter what.
I love them and ep10.
Thx Trigger!!
>>154875664
is this Sanageyama's gang?
>>154875953
>no bunny ears and nose
it's shit SHIT
>>154873924
>"Barbera, are you absolutely sure about this?"
>"You saw how much cake I was eating at that party."
>"Can't you just, you know?"
>"Tried, stuck my fingers as far back as I could, did nothing. Not having a gag reflex is supposed to be a bonus, right? Sure doesn't feel like it. Feel free to try for yourself, ahhh"
>"Haha, ew, I'm not sticking my hand down your throat, idiot."
>"Okay, okay, I'm just kidding, Hannah. Serious though, I don't know any other way to throw up, you're my only hope~"
>"Well, mom would make a bloodroot and mustard seed potion, but bloodroot is banned, so I guess we'll have to get creative. I think it's possible to vomit from eating too muc-"
>"Like hell am I-"
>"Shut it Barbera, I know that's dumb. Um, there was one other thing, I can't remember it..."
>"Salt water!"
>"What?"
>"Remember when Akko tried Saanvi's cooking and we turned every glass of water she tried to drink into seawater? She threw up all over Borislava!"
>"Wait, you're right! So you just drink a bunch of salt water and then we just wait a bit?"
*ten minutes later*
>"So, you ready to throw up yet?"
>"Nope, but my stomach is poking out a bit from all the water, I'm feeling really full."
>"Ha, you look like one of Lukić's bloated frogs!"
>"Hannah!"
>"No, really, it's great! They're kinda cute, the way they croak when you poke them in the stomach."
>"Don't. You. Dare."
>"I dare."
>"Hannah, no! Hahaha, oh god, stop! You know I'm ticklish there, and it hurts to laugh!"
>"No, you're not getting away just by saying that! Get back here!"
>"Haha, No, Hannah I'm- EEP, really serious! I, hahaha, I'm going to be sick!"
>"Wait, you're..."
>"BLAUAUAUAUauaaauuuuuauuuuu"
>"EW, BARBERA, YOU GOT IT IN MY HAIR!"
>"I'm Sorr- BLAUAUauaaa"
>'EW, EW, EW, EW, It's all over me!"
And Diana's standing outside the door, heavily weighing the pros and cons of entering.Barbera's happy though, because Hannah and her share a quick shower to clean up before their next class
>>154876073
delete this
>finally got some plot
Neato. Not that I didn't enjoy the filler episodes, but I wondered if LWA was going anywhere or not.
>>154876073
but why
>>154876073
>>154874400
Blame Hagani
A believing heart and your magic are one -- "the Choir"
>>154876073
>>154875943
>mfw one of them literally kicked Amanda in the spine
what the actual fuck was their problem
>>154876073
N O T O K A Y
>>154876073
>>154875887
>>154875908
Fuck, just make every transformation she gets permanent.
>Long nosed merman Akko with bunny ears and a plant sticking out her head.
>>154875892
delete this
>>154876073
YOU MOTHERFUCKER!
>>154876171
she also got smacked with a 2x4
>>154876073
what
>>154876225
I repeat my question.
>>154876073
This ain't no shocking but just hilarious.
Why does she live all alone with a bird, never have visitors, and walks around in a tracksuit?
I mean, isn't she in the prime of her life?
>>154876302
here's the template
>vomit posting is fine
>BRRAAAPP gets you a 24h ban
>>154875845
So Diana is Vegeta and will come to accept that and idiot is better than her?
>>154876073
wat
>>154873804
This is all your fault.
>>154875845
>Diana accepts that she's not the hero, Akko is
The only reason why I dislike this idea, in the case that it does happen, is what the message is implying. The show is an allegory to the animation industry.
I'm totally accepting of newcomers coming in to help the industry as a whole. But, the idea that veterans or talent have to step aside for them to be the heroes rubs me the wrong way. Maybe I'm too much into schmaltz, but it'd be much better if both sides worked together and learned from each other. I do think that Diana needs to help Akko though.
The difference between Diana and Andy is that Diana is an actual character with plot relevance an arc that will cover all of the second cour while Andy is basically just an accessory for Akko to enhance her characterization and he has a relatively simplistic and uninteresting character that is almost exhausted after episode 10.
>>154876302
>>154876315
I want the other one as a template. Looks more funny with her hair looking like a mustache.
Question btw, does Netflix release the first cour or do they wait till the second one's also aired?
>>154876302
Her two friends died in the event where she lost the Shiny Rod.
>>154876376
Apologies, I haven't seen anybody make a template of the first one, and I'm too retarded to make one myself.
The end of LWA will reveal that there is no Chosen One or hero, they're all Shiny Chariot.
>>154876383
They're retards so the second option.
>>154874351
Jesus Christ how horrifying
>>154876418
Shiny Chariot is a title.
I'm gonna wait until the second key visual to predict if Diana will be rival, antagonist or reluctant ally.
>>154876302
The prime of your life is the point where you have the luxury of living alone, walking around in a tracksuit and not having to worry about visitors.
One day all of that will be gone
>>154876418
THERE CAN ONLY BE ONE CHARIOT
>>154876454
All witches with beliefs in their heart are Chariot. A message that fits the animation industry allegory.
>>154876171
Maybe they were jealous because they weren't cute witch girls. I'm sure if they just asked the girls would have obliged them in that regard.
>>154876073
Its time to stop
>>154876420
I want more people to appreciate this series.
>>154876455
She is the Sasuke of LWA. Rival, Villain and love interest...for Andrew
Where are the girls of the second and third year? All the girls in the opening ceremony seem to be first year.
>>154876476
The Chariots get individual adjectives. What will Akko's be?
Hey dudes,
My name is Frank, and I love every single one of you. All of you are funny, intelligent people, who post really creative posts and pictures. You are the sense of humor that is lacked in the world. Honestly, do you get all the girls, or guys? I mean, I guess it’s fun being creative, but you guys take it to a whole new level. This is even more awesome than stand up comedy.
Don’t be a stranger. Just laugh with me too. I’m pretty cool. I'm the editor of my private school's newspaper and rerouted a portion of my trust into a charity fund for the less fortunate. What nice activities do you do, other than having fun with awesome drawn Japanese anime? I also have a B average across my clases and have a kindhearted friend who is a girl. (She just taught me magical theory; Stuff was SO complicated) You are all awesome people who should be invited to the next big party. Thank you for listening to me.
Pic Related: It’s me and my female friend.
>>154876372
Just because Diana isn't the hero doesn't mean she's not important. This is Akko's story, her journey, but that doesn't mean she can do everything alone. She needs help from her friends. In episode 2, Lotte and Sucy were beside her, supporting her, and Diana was helping with the pronunciation of the spell.
Akko needs them all, but she's the hero. She's the one the Shiny Rod chose. The sooner Diana realizes this, the sooner they can work together again like back then.
According to Yoshinari, Diana was originally meant to make Akko stand out. She was supposed to be important. But Yoshinari got more interested in her and
>>154876563
You a classy guy Frank.
>>154876563
Nice to meet ya Frank.
>>154876575
Fuck, forget about the last line. It's from another post.
Class, today we have a guest speaker: Victor Saltzpyre, who is here to talk about dangers of unsanctioned magic!
>exposition is literally people telling each other what they already know
Maybe instead of filler bullshit they should've kept the plot rolling so they wouldn't have to do this shit.
>>154876563
Nice to meet you Frank.
>>154876563
Get your shoehorned ass out of my show about little witches, faggot.
>>154876563
>>154876722
little wizard academia WHEN
When is the plot starting?
>>154876812
The plot literally started with last Sunday's ep.
>>154876812
It's already over.
You missed the plot entirely.
>>154876812
Episode 11
>>154876722
Whoa anon. The show is about a school for little witches.
This is why you little witches people have ruined everything. You've taken away spotlight from the main character, Luna Nova, and forced your little witch character drama into focus.
>>154876563
>tfw you will never be a little witch who has a healthy friends to lovers relationship with Frank
pull the trigger
>>154876812
Last episode started plot. Rumor has it next episode is an Andrew one. If theories are to be believed, plot should progress.
big witch
>>154876057
Here you go
>>154876871
>>154876851
>11 episodes to get a plot going
wew lad, I'm only at episode 3.
I think I'll just skip this show for now then. I'll come back to it later when someone has a list of what episodes to skip
>>154876938
>episodes to skip
Is this bait?
>>154876938
Skip all even numbered episodes.
>>154876938
Skip your retarded ass right off a cliff.
>>154876563
Once again, Frank has proven that he is the most based person on the show
>>154876951
No? I'm not interested in ANOTHER magic school slice of life.
The OVA was interesting and I was interested in seeing what the overall plot was/where they'd go with it.
>>154876951
>not skipping filler shit
>>154876784
boys cant do magic because theyre icky you dumb faggot
>>154876938
Every episode is good tho
>>154876938
>>154876989
The first few episodes are for world building and characters. Episode 11 starts the overarching plot.
>>154876563
>>154876982
I-Is it wrong to waifu Frank-kun?
>>154876982
I like ya Frank, but she's out of your league buddy.
>>154876989
The OVAs were magical SoL, with like two minutes of SHINIE ARKU! at the end of each.
I'm not sure you know what you want.
>>154876951
>>154876977
>implying
there's no reason to watch episodes 2-10
>>154876575
I kind of understand what you're getting at now. I don't really want Diana to be that type of character (because it makes that plot point predictable), but it makes sense in terms of a conceited animator unwilling to help a newcomer due to conflicting views and standards.
>>154876638
Holy shit man, bless this ravaged body!
>>154877023
All episodes are good
But some episodes are more good than others.
>>154876477
Is there a wizards school out there?
>>154877025
>The first few episodes are for world building and characters
They did a pretty bad job of it.
>>154876992
I was referring to this show in particular. I know a lot of shows have episodes that don't matter and don't progress the story in anyway, but the only episode I'd consider filler right now is 9, but even that one was a lot of fun and gave some backstory to the headmaster.
>>154877032
Frank is too good for Diana anyways
>>154877034
OVA1 was really just a proof of concept
I didn't watch the second one because it obviously had no substance
>>154876989
In my opinion, the first ten episodes add impact to the plot that sets off in ep11. Just skipping them waters down that impact. Besides they're well written episodes.
>>154876498
>still no lewds of these two
What the fuck
>>154876989
>Not interested in AOTY
>>154876992
>slice of life
>filler
>>154877023
blatantly untrue
>>154877093
>LWA
>slice of life
If that was the case episode 11 would've been another episode about Akko being retarded at school.
>>154877114
slice of life can have an overarching plot
>>154876989
just stop watching and get the fuck out of here
>>154876073
>write original post
>get washed
>come back to this
nice
I have no idea if someone went and removed the SAMPLE text by hand or if they simply found it themselves, but I thought you guys might like this.
>>154877125
I suppose literally every anime can be called slice of life then. Naruto is slice of life too right?
>>154877074
It was pretty fun though.
>>154877093
>LWA
>AOTY
>>154877099
>>154877074
>>154877067
pic related is these posters
>>154873474
God I want those two cuties to bully me. And then I want Barabara too eventually develops feelings for me, and start to put sexual advances on me while insulting me
>>154877020
What happens if a boy shows up to Luna Nova and he can cast magic and demands to be taught.
>>154877186
Nothing this year will match LWA
>>154877203
Not an argument kid.
>>154877219
>and start to put sexual advances on me while insulting me
Sounds hot
>>154877219
I want toBully Barbera until she pukes
>>154877251
Pic related
>>154877261
Konosuba already beat LWA in every metric.
>>154877182
How is broom dancing supposed to help you find out who killed your dad?
>>154877219
Tough luck if you are not Hannah
>>154873767
>>154876982
why do they remind me of each other?
>>154877341
They don't
>>154877125
>slice of life can have an overarching plot
No it can't. Slice of life is by definition a collection of daily happenings. No actual plot. It might have some subtle character development, but definitely no plot.
>>154877280
>being insulted/belittled during sex
What's the appeal?
>>154877309
Your meme isn't real
>>154877341
Because you're retarded? How are they similar beyond both being male?
>>154877261
>implying
Boruto will be better than LWA
>>154877294
I'm a fan of konusuba and it is enjoyable, but it's overhyped as shit. It's a somewhat funny parody of a shit genre, that's it
Not even close to AOTY
>>154877373
I don't know. I just said it was hot
>episode 5 was a real episode and not a nightmare
>>154877321
And so Akko got her make a wish and was able to play in the big game afterall
>>154877434
I'm a fan of LWA and it is enjoyable, but it's overhyped as shit.
>>154877408
>Shounen rehash
>good
no
>>154877384
>your meme
Pretty sure it's the animators meme
>>154877442
Why are sucyposters so fucking cancerous?
>>154877461
I never said Boruto would be good
>>154876563
There is something really wrong with this world if a bro as bro as Frank doesn't get at least one date with Lotte.
>>154877341
Holy shit how retarded can you be
>>154877478
Well as far as I know. It started here. after the night fall episode
>>154877219
I want Hannah and Barbara toCAWat me!
>>154877442
6 and 10 are worse
>Akko is still highly incompetent.
>She's only activated 2 of the 7 magical words.
>Massive dump of story/lore.
>There's only 13 episodes left.
How? How the fuck are they going to flesh all of this shit out, in only 12-13 episodes, with the current slow-as-shit world-building and pacing? It would be fine, if they were going for Digimon length seasons, of 50 or some shit episodes, but 25?! Two cours?
I don't think they are going to be able to do it, without it feeling like a rush job and being sloppy as shit.
>>154877517
That's when people assumed Hannah is straight and only coaxed into lesbian shit
They were always gay as fuck
>>154877494
leave this thread cancer nigger
>>154876073
>Saanvi
Who?
>>154877540
Are you some kind of bird fetishist?
>>154877583
I don't see why. Both were seen lusting after Andrew when he first appeared.
What does Akko's butt taste like?
>>154877025
Where was this stated again? I'm glad some characters got developed before the main story could begin, I'm pleased if from now on they keep the 8 witches thing going
>>154877583
Why are they so perfect?
>>154875463
waiting for the end of the show when Akko becomes Punished Akko
>>154877576
>Akko gets 4/7 of the magical words through generic magic test episodes before being interrupted and having to fight the big bad severely ill-equipped
i can only hope
Wheres my slice of live little witches? I dont need deep lore.
>>154877665
poop and toilet paper
>>154877706
There's hundreds of those m8
What do the bullies smell like?
>>154877716
>>154877576
Oh sorry, you wanted plot? Nope, you get more shoehorned boys and shoehorned romance.
>>154877752
Barbara's vomit
>>154877658
They are lusting after status
>>154877680
If Akko becomes Venom Snake, who are Kaz and Ocelot?
>>154877752
Hannah smells like roses
Avery smells like marshmellows
Barbera smells like her own vomit
>>154875845
i realized my guamish wall of text was too much sperg for this board, so i decided to pastebin my response
http://pastebin.com/Rh8p0VgU
Oh god what the FUCK is happening to gelbooru???
>>154877810
and dick
>>154877752
Akko smells like happy flavor!
Diana getting involved will force the plot to quickly move forward. She will confront Akko at the end of 12.
>>154877886
It looks fine anon? What happened?
>>154877871
>>154877794
>Barbera is waifu
>Write cute greentexts of her trying to do lewd things with Hannah being creepy.
>In rolls the vomit fetishists.
>Now Barbera is no longer the meme lesbian, she's the meme vomitposter.
Why do people do this to pure waifus?
BARBARA EATS BABA GANOUSH EVERY DAY AND THEN VOMITS IT ONTO HERSELF WHILE MASTURBATING
>>154877987
Technically she's the meme lesbian vomit fetishist.
She can be both.
>>154877886
Are people already drawing Barbera vomiting on everyone?
>>154877752
Barbara smells like vanilla
Hannah smells like roses
Avery smells like sea water
>>154878019
no, i'm going with the older meme idea
So what do you guys think Akatsuki Departure will be used for?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tjy1iXHdfPM
Someone draw this but with Barbara
Bonus points if Hannah is squatting on the ground lapping it up like an obedient dog.
>>154878087
Insert song
>>154874404
Akko? AKKO?! WHERE DID YOU GO??
>>154878047
I bet Barbara is digging Hannah's used gum out of the trash and chews it
>>154877341
Now for the real answer: Because of their overall positive outlook at life.
That's where their similarities start and end, though.
>>154878141
That's gross
>>154878087
Nothing, every OP/ED CD comes with a few extra songs. Lurk 2 years before posting.
What the fuck, I leave these threads for a few days and now Barbara is being used for vomit fetishes.
>>154878016
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Why do people insist on denying an absolute fact? You can piss and moan about "pure waifus" all you want but at the end of the day fart, piss, scat, and vomit fetishists are the ruling class here.
You plebs need to either get with the program or just accept you have shit taste
>>154878018
I'd rather she be neither. Make Sucy the meme lesbian vomit Fetishist
>>154878112
On that note, we can't forget to get a Barbera version of a real classic
>>154878141
i bet she takes pictures of hannah from every angle and plasters them on every inch of wall, floor, and ceiling in her room, and intends to capture her and put her in a wedding dress
>>154878117
>>154878202
sorry, I'm retarded
>>154878238I don't like this new forced vomit meme but this would make a good reaction image.
>>154877987
So they can self insert as the character
>>154878304
>forced meme
no more forced than the "Ursula has skidmarks in her underwear and forgets to put in tampons" meme
all this talk about vomit reminds me of some live action korean tv show about old mortalkombat raiden style ninjas and one of them vomitted at another guy to kill him i think (couldn't tell since it was in koreanese)
>>154877872
Different anon, but I enjoyed reading this. I've had the same thoughts about episode 2. Forgot about that Yoshinari-Imaishi interview.
>Witnessing yet another degenerate meme creation
These threads are really "special". It seems that they finally developed an own identity from the KLK ones four years ago.
Fucking crossboarders did it again. At least it's contained.
>TN's note: Yay means vomit
>>154878524
Forgot my pic related because, well...
>TL Note: "Shiny Chariot" is a euphemism for a squat toilet covered in a teenage girl's vomit
What made Ursula lose her yay?
>>154876073
made me nut
>>154878524
>>154878577
Look on the bright side, Anon: it's all in good fun and it isn't shifting.
It isn't Quality Discussion, but it's harmless.
HANNAH TAKES MEAN SHITS THAT CAN CLOG UP TOILETS!
>>154878524
What are you talking about?
>>154878228
Nah, Sucy is the meme lesbian guro fetishist.
>>154878632
Being forced to wash Hannah and Barbara's sheets for the 4th time this week
>>154878653
And Barbara eats them to vomit on herself while masturbating
Man, why do these sick fetish memes get to be real but Imperial and or Nazi Constanze doesn't get any attention.
>O-Okay Hannah, here it comes. G-Get ready!
hannah is a stinky virgin who is racist against moogles and can't get decadus to rape her
>>154878817
Who?
>>154878817
Because that's some bottom of the barrel shit. It's not all that original, whereas the idea of a cute anime lesbian being a heavy emetophiliac is new, exciting, and kind of cute.
>This thread
>Hannah and Barbara worship
>/ss/ garbage
>Barbara is begging for the toilet
>she ate too much at dinner (again)
>Hannah is too busy straining to relinquish the chariot
>it's like she's giving birth to a butt-gourd
>Barbara vomits onto the floor
>Hannah clogs the toilet
>Diana calls Ursula to clean it up again
>>154877872
>I believe that she gave up not out of pride but out of mere resignation
I don't think so. I think getting recognition is important to Diana. Look at her happy face when Miranda gives her the key to the secret books. Miranda mentions how normally that room is forbidden, but since it's Diana, she will allow her to enter. They consider her special and she likes it.
Back in episode 2, she tried to tell the truth. But she changed her mind when Fineran said "If you didn't do it, who would?" That's Diana's image. The top student who can do what others can't. She had her chance to say the truth there but didn't have the courage to break her image.
>Akko, while willing to let people help, still wants to be either like Chariot or become Chariot herself as this is her ultimate dream that she refuses to let go of.
And why would she have to let go of that? There's nothing wrong with her dream. The fact that she doesn't give up on it despite all her failures is a virtue, not a flaw. Besides, unlike Diana, Akko doesn't reject other people's point of views. See how she doesn't force her views on Lotte in episode 4. She also doesn't criticise Amanda when the latter tells her she doesn't have a goal and just wants to have fun for now.
Diana, on the other hand, rejects any point of view that doesn't agree with hers. She's the one who has to change and open up. Akko's just fine the way she is.
NO AKKO NOT ALL OVER THE FLOOR I JUST VACUUMED
>>154878662
perfect
>>154878817
Because Nazi Constanze implies that she'll fall.Also it's too easy.
>>154878524
>implying the faggots that actually like the shoehorned romance or characters are any better
at least the degenerate memes are funny and don't ruin the actual show like shoehorning does
>>154878821
>No, Barbara it would not be funny if you puked into my mouth
>and stop chewing on my used panties
>>154878821
I need more of this in my life
>>154878650
>It's harmless
That I have to agree.
I'm convinced that this is one person trying to push a shit meme as hard as possible in order to kill these threads. I wonder if it's one of our resident shitposters like LRD. He always seemed to despise threads that have all-girl casts.
Nanoha threads are basically unreadable now thanks to him.
>>154878821
Gross
>>154878653
unf nice
>>154877546
I love 6&10
To me, these are best eps so far.
Ep 5 is so weird.
>Hannah is vanilla as fuck
>she indulges Barbera's vomit fetish anyway because she loves her, even though she finds it revolting
how sweet
>>154878947
>one person
unless one person is shitposting from multiple networks I can't see how it's possible. Posts about poop/vomit come in too quickly to be from a run of the mill meme-forcer
>>154878947
I can assure you I just jumped onto the vomit meme
It's not all that interesting but as long as i's pissing off soneone, I'm in
>>154878947
Trust me, it's not one guy.
I just join in on the shitposting because I like the idea of a cute 2D girl being a degenerate in a relatable way.
>>154879009
>Hannah is vanilla
>plagued with massive, rocky stools that block up toilets
>Barbara is a hardcore vomit fetishist
Finally something for me to enjoy
HANNAH = MASSIVE SHITS
BARBARA = HARDCORE EMETOPHILIAC
URSULA = FORCED TO CLEAN UP AFTER THEM AND IT BREAKS HER SPIRIT EACH TIME
>>154879056
>I like the idea of a cute 2D girl being a degenerate in a relatable way
>only way you can relate to little girls is imagining them as vomit fetishists
>be OP
>post first image because scene was funny
>do other shit
>come back
>all this vomit fetish
the fuck happened
>this thread
>>154879089
>Hannah is able to help with Barbara's vomit fetish by making her vomit by sitting on Barbara's face and blowing some atrocious, toxic fart's straight into her nostril's so she throws up.
>>154878653
This
Barbara would never do something so uncouth
>>154873804
I hope you're happy
>ursula tells Akko of the second word
>Akko somehow uses it as spell for the shiny rod
>still doesn't know Ursula is Chariot
Is Akko stupid or something?
Which one is the jewish witch
Avery counter 3
>>154879218
>Ursula! It happened again!
>>154878524
I bet you like shitty vanilla, plebian.
>>154879258
Probably Barbara or Hana
If Barbera likes vomit and Hannah is vanilla, what is Diana into?
Please cleanse this thread by posting rare akkos
>>154879327
>>154879265
She was vored by Diana.
>>154879056
>I like the idea of a cute 2D girl being a degenerate in a relatable way.
>>154879327
I think the reason Akko can't fly is because her broom is weighed down by Hanna's impacted bowels and Barbara's bloated vomit filled stomach
>>154878909
i say what i said about diana because she (if i recall) said "shitsurei" which tells me she didn't drop her case simply because she saw credit
it might just be a simple word to you, but it gives a pretty decent picture of her attitude at the time, instead of saying "hai"
there's nothing wrong with akko having a dream, but it's as the people at trigger themselves described, an overly idealistic perception of the world she's coming into with no sense of direction or talent and her mind is (or at least was) only on the goal
and even then she is constantly asking herself "what would chariot do?" (bumper sticker available for 2 pounds)
and what i'm saying is that they can aim to build each other by filling in the holes, but if they're too stubborn then they both may not get anywhere, akko will never progress talentwise beyond just using the crutch of the chariot rod and diana will be as unimaginative, stale and overly logical as she always is
are you an akkofag?
>>154876539
>Sucy: Mushroom Chariot
>Barbara: Vomit Chariot
Okay this vomit fetish stuff is going way too far.
How about some clean, innocent feet posting instead? Lets talk about which witches have the most soft, supple feet.
>>154879442
Foot fetishes are the pinnacle of degeneracy. The only thing worse is Furfaggotry which I won't dignify with a spot on the chart.
Vomit/Scat is funny and sexy
I want to lobotomize myself after reading this thread
>>154879499
I would be glad to do it for you~
I want to play a staring game with Ursula.
Behead those who insult Chunky Chariot
>>154879517
are you a cute witch
>>154879498
>Vomit/Scat is funny and sexy
>>154879442
>Not posting the superior version
I bet you like shoehorned romance
I don't even have a foot fetish but I can't help but like this one
Now would be a perfect time for Tattun to drop in on us.
please... stop fetishizing the witches
>>154879546
>tfw that is Hannah's "chocolate" on her feet
>>154877752
>Hanna Barbara and Avery
Man I'm slow. I only just now realized the reference there.
>>154879546
>you will never accidentally amputate akko's toes by biting down too hard on her chocolate covered feet
why live?
>>154879546
>Akko steps into Hannah's bathroom
>shoehorned romance
It's that guy who is responsible for this shiposting, isn't it? I swear I will go ack on this guy.
>>154879561What if Tattun is the one posting all of this
This thread needs to be purged
>>154879289
What if I do, got a problem, you degenerate?
Yume Nikki Barbara edit W H E N
>>154879561
>Tattun posts
>he gets flooded with "MAKE BARBERA A VOMIT FETISH, MAKE IT CANON" posts
>>154879615
I've been posting anonymously but you made me come out of hiding.
>>154879645
Permission to issue exterminatus on this thread?
>>154874479
It was okay. My favorite is the one with Pisces sensei. It was hilarious.
>>154879178
this is your fault
>>154879684
I fucking knew it.
>>154879525
>Probably the character with the prettiest eyes
>Has a tendency of avoiding visual contact
She's funny.
This thread is like what I would imagine an Insane Clown Posse concert to be like in 4chan format.
>>154874479
Best episodes are 3,7,8, and 10
>>154879234
I hope you are happy now.
>>154879700
Granted
Ssh, guys, it was just a ritual to scare all the plebs off. Now that they've all >>>/reddit/ we can get to the meat of things. Real discussion can start now. Y'know, argue about who best girl is and talk about lore, stuff like that.
... Right?
>>154879796
>argue about who best girl is
best at what?
>>154879796
Kill yourself.
>>154879796
>best girl
Hannahimpacted bowels and toilet clogging stools are funny. Her sheepishly coming out with tears in her eyes asking for help is cute and sexy
>>154879858
Anon please stop
I just want toworshipakko
>>154879785
Right on. Gonna do this /trash/ style!
>cancerous general threads
And this is the reason why LWA will never have a thread after it airs just like KLK, Gurren Lagann and pic related.
>>154879884
>I just want toworshipakko
What's her fetish?
Normally I'd peg her as a watersports girl but that seems more up Lotte's alley.
Guys please stop my girlfriend does not have a vomit fetish
>>154879858
Imagine Hannah pooping so much that she develops fecal incontinence and can't hold in her poop anymore
>>154879924
Akko is Wet and Messy, I can just tell
>>154880003
hot
>>154880002
That maybe so but she's still shit tier.
>>154879843
Being attractive, of course
>>154879390
>"shitsurei"
That just means "excuse me," anon. It's just a polite way to indicate that you're leaving.
>there's nothing wrong with akko having a dream, but it's as the people at trigger themselves described, an overly idealistic perception of the world she's coming into with no sense of direction or talent and her mind is (or at least was) only on the goal
That's what Yoshinari said when he was working on the OVAs. In the OVAs, Akko was self-absorbed, and that caused issues even with her friends. TV Akko isn't like that. She's idealistic but not blindly so. She has proved that much multiple times now. She even put her dream in danger to save some damn fishes, for Christ's sake. That's like the polar opposite of being self-absorbed.
>and even then she is constantly asking herself "what would chariot do?"
That's just lack of self-confidence. Note that she got depressed after failing at the same spell one hundred times. Her "what would Chariot do" means "what can I do to get better." Of course, the answer is to keep working hard. And she knows that, but when too much failure piles up, anyone would lose a bit of self-confidence.
>what i'm saying is that they can aim to build each other by filling in the holes, but if they're too stubborn then they both may not get anywhere, akko will never progress talentwise beyond just using the crutch of the chariot rod and diana will be as unimaginative
I don't agree with that. Akko's working her butt off, and she's improving. She doesn't need to change. Diana has. She's the one who rejects others.
>>154879924
She's probably a hemophiliac.
Instead of guro like Sucy, she just loves blood overall for the sake if it. She'll just as easily eat a girl out on her period as she would lap at a major wound.
When Lotte found out, she was convinced that Akko was secretly a vampire for a while week.
>>154879754
Akko's gonna be crushed when she finds out her hero is this loser.
>>154879754
Maybe her eyes has the same effect as the love bee?
Corruption Diana doujins when?
>>154879924
>>154880091
No, you fools. She loves asphyxiation.
She loves to strangle people, and to be strangled, the sight of a noose gets her dripping like nothing else.
>>154879899That linework does belong in /trash/
>>154879327
I rate your Akko an "Uncommon".
Not rare, doesn't even have a holofoil back.
>>154880193
hnnnfffff
How would she feel about being suffocated by the smell of Hannah's shit or Barbara's vomit?Or both?
>>154880087
>That's what Yoshinari said when he was working on the OVAs.
pretty sure things like this were mentioned in explicit conjunction with what happened in episode 2
you seem like a mark for akko though, yet i've insulted both diana and called akko an idiot, so i wonder whose side i'm taking herethe answer is my own side
Friday can't come soon enough.
>>154880202
Yeah the guy was in a rush and he just traced over a picture. Still got a Krieger with an STG though.
>>154879920
I avoided the Mob threads during its broadcast.
I had no idea they devolved too.
vomit > scat
just saying
>>154880248That's when maiddragon releases a new episode, right?
>>154880194
This is some good shit.
>>154880272
little witches are for guro only
>>154880270
They were pretty gay.
Like, Hannah and Barbera levels of gay. It was nothing but thirst over Mob and his crew.
>>154880285
No, by then we'll have quality porn of Hannah and Barbara enjoying their fetishes
>>154880346
hannah has no fetishes
>>154880346
>Hannah
>fetishes
she's vanilla; she just indulges Barbera because she loves her
>>154880272
Vomit is gross.
Scat is tolerable
Farts are patrician tier
>>154880362Hannah's fetish is indulging Barbara and seeing her happy.
WHAT DOES IT MEAN?
Hannah and Barbara would be perfect for a human centipede
>>154880378
>she just indulges Barbera because she loves her
>>154880393
>Hannah's fetish is indulging Barbara and seeing her happy.
not sure if samefag
Where are the Sucypoaters? Normally there's the point they'd start dumping Sucy pics to euthanize the thread.
Which one would win in a tickle fight?
>>154880378
>>154880362
>Implying Hannah doesn't get off on the embarrassment of having to call Ursula to unclog their toilet again
>standing beside her with damp eyesand damp pantiesas her teacher transforms her wand into a plunger and attempts to hold her breath and force the monstrosity downward
>>154880464
>20 seconds apart
no shitposter is that dedicated
i thought this was a wholesome anime
this is a nice thread filled with nice people
>>154880240
>pretty sure things like this were mentioned in explicit conjunction with what happened in episode 2
I'm pretty sure that's not the case. But if you have an actual source, feel free to prove me wrong.
Anyway, you seem to have this idea that Akko and Diana are equally flawed and have to complement each other or some shit like that. Go watch the show the again. Akko is out there inspiring people while Diana hangs out with two bullies and rejects anyone who doesn't agree with her. It's pretty clear who has to change.
>>154880486
Tickling would make their digestive tracts void themselves
>>154876073
Salt water makes you have watery shits, not vomit.
>>154880486
barbarabut only think it would be cuter for hannah to lose
how about a navel licking fight
>>154880548
Nothing is sacred.
>>154880557
lotte please save this thread
>LWA Netflix dub comes out
>meme magic makes it so Barbera inexplicably gargles in the middle of some of her lines
>>154880656
>Trying to save this thread
>>154880713
This. just let it burn.
Let us burn
>>154880728
Holy promethium will cleanse the impure!
>the main plot is to destroy the seven evil horcruxes
I hate how this thread has permanently engrained Barbera as an emetophiliac in my mind.
I'll probably forget all the impacted bowels shitheheventually, but Barbera the Vomiteer is going to stick
>>154880656
We both know Lotte is a shitposter. She probably trolls the twilight threads. Which makes her cancer. Lotte worst girl confirmed.
>>154880557
Huh, I guess Lotte really is into watersports...
That anon hit the nail on the head
>>154880771
NO
The main plot is to get witches back their yay
the Stars thing is merely a macguffin!
>>154880812
STOP
>>154880812
needs a wet streak on her shorts and some dripping on her leg.
>come over from /tg/ to check into the LWA thread
>everything full of 40k shitposting
>thread with unspoilered tits in full glory also up
Are all mods just dead or something?
>>154880851
>her own urine
don't be fucking gross
>>154880835
Let it die out anon
In the meantime, we can discuss whynui is best girl of all time
>>154873924
Give me rGb text now
>>154880858
Just purging a heretical thread.
>>154880835
Out of all the girls, Lotte does seem the most likely to have a disgusting fetish. Hell, she seems like the type of character to post on tumblr and end up studying queer studies.
This cancerous thread is proven that 4chan nowadays is plagued by Females.
Poll : Are you a Male or Female ?
http://www.strawpoll.me/12582254
Little Witch /a/ca/d/e/m/ia
>>154880776
I don't think I'll be able to forget any of this
I'll do my part in making sure it survives to new threads too. This shit:^)is just too funny
>>154880907
>Lotte does seem the most likely to have a disgusting fetish
She probably likes_________________________________________________________________________hand holding
>>154876073
Damn why do the bitches have to be the most kinky
>>154880953
Lotte is too pure for that
Ri-Ri-Right?
>I brought up the idea of Barbera liking vomit first
what have I done
>>154880559
https://formeinfullbloom.wordpress.com/2017/01/16/on-studio-trigger-and-inspiration-yoh-yoshinaris-little-witch-apprentices/
probably got it from this, which looks more like an analysis, nevermind that
but i still stand by what i believe, because nonsense is my way, and from how you speak of diana alone and praise akko, it makes me suspicious, while i've gone out of my way to insult both of them so i can hopefully present a more impartial perspective
such as your insistence that diana is a stubborn bitch and that akko is...you know what, nevermind, i'll hold further word until the series progresses
>LITERALLY already an anime for vomit fetishists made by a vomit fetishist
>they ignore that for LWA
>>154880953
She reads Twilight. She's definitely a fur fag.
>>154880872
He's not being gross.
Does Boris have any fetishes?
>>154881061
Baptism, procreation and hand holding.
>>154881080
>page one
drink barbera's vomit
>>154881080
>not page 10
Eat Hannah's shit
>>154880854
>http://www.strawpoll.me/12582254
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>>154880934
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>>154879700
stop posting this retarded army men gas mask shit and then kys
>>154881080
Good job dude, you created the thread before anyone else could. You're a real epic 4chan legend
>>154881160
Only doing it this once.
>>154881080
Get pruned faglord
>>154873728
worth hiring a VA for that
>>154880559
>Rejects anyone who doesn't agree with her
When did this happen? Throughout the 1st cour, she seems vaguely disinterested in anything other than magic.
>It's pretty clear who has to change
The idea that you can interpret flaws of a character through a few basic interactions is flawed itself. We've barely seen much of Diana, what motivates her, and who she is (this might be the result of bad writing, but I wholeheartedly think Trigger knows where they're going).
And even if we had enough information to assume all that, why would she have to change? Not everyone wants to be a paragon of inspiration for the world.
>>154881634
>why would she have to change? Not everyone wants to be a paragon of inspiration for the world.
You think she's happy the way she is. You may say we don't have enough information, but at the very least, it's clear she's not happy. She doesn't even have any real friends.
That's why she has to change.
>>154876851
>being this much of a pleb plotfag
>being autistic enough to demand watch orders for every fucking show
>>154883262
shit meant to click >>154876938
>>154876989
it's not SOL you just don't understand what plot is
>>154876992
>original anime
>filler
>>154877074
your taste is so bad it's impressive