>Maidragon v1 sells 2330/409, total 2,739.
What the fuck is wrong with Japan?
because the premise while cute has been done to death. Its basically just a lesbian couple hijinx with a cute kid you can remove all the dragon stuff and its basically the same.
Oh wow, it's like they finally got oversaturating with this shit and grew tired of it.
Just because it gets memed to death by American teenagers on reddit doesn't mean it's going to be successful.
Friendly reminder that BD sales are one of the least significant revenue sources for anime, the only things lower are special events and music. Because nobody buys physical format for movies anymore.
Look at the merchandise sales and TV audimat if you want to see if a series is popular or not.
Kemono Friends is selling over 15k, you idiot
I know youre a falseflagger baiting while pretending to be a Kyoanifag but there are people who actually believe that shop matters at all when it comes to BD sales.
First off, printing 15k discs seems overkill for a show that didnt have much demand in the first place. The KyoAni shop is selling Maidragon for a limited time only, and neither volume 1 nor volume 2 ever went out of stock there. The KyoAni shop was also selling the discs at a normal price, meaning no 20% discount that is present in pretty much any DVD or BD sold thorough Amazon. The KyoAni shop version only has an extra illustration, I doubt many otaku would pay 1.5k yen extra for just that. Theres really no reason to buy the discs in their shop.
The only thing that is apparently selling well is the shitty merch, which seems KyoAni is the only one producing at this moment. Keychains like these cost no less than 50 cents to make and are being sold for 5 dollars, its safe to assume they made 2 to 5 thousands of each (ordering less than a thousand would cost more), this bland merch alone must have paid for at least one episode.
They do not own the show, PC does. China streaming money goes to ABC Asahi.
I like all this smug supremacy over /v/ when this board is dominated by battle shonen/seinen and isekai threads that fly through posts like nothing
If you've been on this site long enough you'd know that things that tend to particularly resonate with young people, like video games and anime, are loaded to the brim with people you consider undesirables whether you acknowledge it or not
It's just your typical anon typing like a teenager trying to fit in.
It's always the same people shitposting about the same boring things, and claiming that something is from another board.
Why are people getting worked up over something so pointless.
The year of 10-15k shows are over.
The show did get pretty stale though, jokes are on repeat constantly to the point where you can tell what will happen in an episode.
Saikawa's whole gimmick is just making this face and Elma? She got a bit of character in one episode and now she exists just to make jokes about how hungry she is. The whole dragon gimmick is wasted on this show.
Saikawa is a bad character and I don't know why they clumped all of her bits together in the anime (and I think they just made up some).
For some reason Elma is japan's favorite, but nip's garbage taste is well known
Japs too busy with fapping to dragon tiddies.
I was going to buy it but once I started watching Kemono Friends I sort of stopped caring about everything else that was airing.
>implying that kemono friends is actually kemono
Because the Mangaka is a boring hack and creates a manga with some characters and a basic scenario then gets bored/runs out of ideas then does the same with a new manga.
He comes back a while later and repeats the jokes when people have forgotten how tedious he/his manga is.
It doesn't lend itself to full season anime very well, only to shorts.
>when your main character is so shallow she becomes a background character to other one note characters
Really shuffles the deck.
I just dont understand how a perfect show like this could flop.
I like it but I guess the Nips were turned off by the art and themes. That and that Kemono Friends exists.
Satania at least is. She does nothing but bully and make ill-fated plans.
Cant you see it? I think it was pretty obvious, it is the type of SoL they love adapting. With some, I dont want to say deep but I dont know how else to call them, those moments when things slow down and they start having conversations about "living the moment", understanding, family, hell they even added some anime original scenes where they talked about xenophobia. There is also character growth. Basically shows with some substance and character development, for example I dont see them ever adapting a show like GabDro or Flying Witch, they are SoLs and have some comedy but the status quo never changes. The only KyoAni SoL that doesnt follow the pattern I described is Lucky Star, even with Nichijou they moved things in the manga around and made some anime original scenes to have the characters grow and "move forward"
>work gets a super popular character
>it's a loli
>make the adaptaion anti-lolicon regardless
They really fucked up all chance of it selling more with their usual moralfaggotry.
Guys, could there be some sort of /a/ curse? All the anime /a/ has loved recently has been doing pretty poorly. Could it be that we, ourselves, are causing this? I know it sounds hard to believe, but what if it's true?
>All the anime /a/ has loved recently has been doing pretty poorly.
kono suba got a 2nd season even though everyone, studio included, expected it to flop
with the projected sales from it there'll probably be a 3rd too
Im not gonna lie, im not a kyoanifag nor am i someone who shills on it, but im surprised its not selling more.
I actually enjoy it and havent liked a Kyoani show this much since Haruhi. Amagi and Chuuni S1 were decent though.
>It's literally a "monster of the week" anime
At least there's actual kissing in it.
>"anime" with the budget of a ham sandwich per episode is raking in more cash than kyoani can ever hope for
>Kemono Friends this Kemono Friends that
If a single show can make other show flops, then IS season 1 shouldn't sold 35k+ average because Madoka airing at same season with IS, or Konosuba 2 won't still going to sell 10k+ average(with 12-14k volume 1).
It just most Nips don't think Maidragon worth for buying BD/DVDs, that's it.
you can always count on there being background faggotry when reddit is involved
/a/ is the super secret edgy cool place where they get their screencap memes after all. look at this thread, even. parroting the same shit. flop dragon, kemono friends, etc. everything is a new chance to be in on the latest meme.
I couldn't even remember who the fuck Kurumi was until I looked her up, and she barely had any depth or development. There's no way she had more than Kanna, Kobayashi, Tohru, and Fafnir, at the very least.
So they have good taste and are saving the industry?
not enough actual dragon shenanigans. I hope the anime takes the original route and showcases more fights or whatever. Maybe an original flashback detailing how Kobayashi managed to pull the giant sword out.
two side characters cannot carry a show
not to mention a kyoani animu would cost more then a normal show
making the already pathetic sales even more pathetic
Is Japan just shit at comedy?
>Character A does something silly
>Character B needs to comment on why that thing is silly killing the gag
It's the same as some faggot going "Oh I get it!"
Kobayashi herself does this way too many times.
As mentioned earlier, judging a series profitability on BD sales is retarded. Moe shows like Maidragon make their money off merchandise sales. They slap the cute girls faces on garbage like mugs, pillows, etc. and sell it to Otaku for huge profit.
That's nice and all but there isn't much merchandise for Maidragon, as far as I'm aware there's only like 4 keychains, a poster and some bookmarks, nothing major, and certainly nothing that could pay for the whole production.
It even has a name. Tsukkomi.
Watching Yuru Yuri, that was literally the only thing Yui did until S3.
Is every comedy show a parody cause it takes place in a (Parody) Earth?
sometimes i do one or the other or both, but atleast post a pick if youre gonna be a smug faggot about it
Kek, you just triggered some deep weeaboo senpai
you dumb wits
it's a parody of the generic fantasy setting(the like of Nip RPG and those fucking isekai shit)) with Sol elements shoved in
just look at the maid dragons lore, it's all cliches and overused, I can hardly crack a smile whenever they made reference to such setting
>muh flop dragon
So how are you guys going to react when end of the year profits data comes out and KyoAni again makes a solid profit?
You do realize that their own shop likely doubled disc sales and that disc sales are far less important than merchandise right?
Revenue is increasing but profit stays the same, they're either spending more or not profiting enough.
It was overestimated since it was up for pre-orders for a very limited time, I believe it had 2 or 3 weeks less than most shows that get released this month.
It's not the first time they've made 50~ million yen, but yeah it's the lowest they've profited since they started showing their financial reports, though I believe that has to do with the new building they bought.
Im on the opinion that everything is better with females, female mc, female love inteterest, female sensei, female villain, etc, because if you dont like the character, at the end of the day you still have the porn.
But god, here the mc is so fucking boring, ugly, plain and personality wise she is just an old man inside the body of a 25 years old lady, there is literally not a single point that you can like on her.
but the mc here is so fucking boring
Not really. The biggest thing right now for late night is foreign streaming contracts and guess what's the most streamed anime this season in chinkland? That's right Maidragon is the biggest anime this season in China.
/a/ is one of the last bastions of board supremacy left on 4chan, and thank god for it. you can't even sage but we still hold up the front shaming newfags, almost no other board bothers and have fallen entirely to cancer as a result
>now she exists just to make jokes about how hungry she is
This is just sad but let's be perfectly honest, the average fan only like a character for its gimmick, nothing more, look at how popular meme characters like megumin and CC are.
>all those yurifags in the comments on suicide watch saying NTR trap and Citrus will save yuri
>flop dragon yurifag literally seething
Everyone is calling maid dragon shit in this thread and saying that Japan has finally grown out of their shit taste. They say this while Japan's biggest sellers are isekai shit, not the good kind of isekai, the most generic and awful trash kind of isekai. So no, Japan has not grown out of their bad taste, it got even worse.
People prefer buy story obut loli salaryman fedora.
Nothing. It's a pandering meme show that has a premise that's been done a million times over.
Konasuba is funnier and more over the top with it's humor, all whist not pandering only to pedos and yurishits.
Kyoanus did not, and never will find a way
>Same jokes, every episode
>best dragon shows up more than halfway through the season
>Main characters always wear the same outfit everytime and side characters don't stay on enough
Sea Dragon is literal Semen Demon and so is Quetzal, and they're not the start. Flat and boring Kobayashi and vanilla as fuck Tohru with admittedly cute as fug Kanna are the main cast.
Fafnir and bro shenanigans are far better than the rest of the show.
>Successful shows sells more than 30k
>Source:Arbitarially, My ass
No one gives a shit about sales except for the fags who get butthurt about it. Konosuba got a S2 and did what it needed to financially last season, so you're going to have to draw another comparsion.
This thread is just pure autism of people making stuff up to suit the preferred show.
Sales threads should just be delete on sight.
>leaving your samefagging in the screencap
>Fumoffu in first place
Tattun is a total retard. Not that I didn't already know this, but still. KyouAni's pure filler comedy nonsense was awful, I still have no idea why they made it.
They pander to everyone.
LL has events where the girls flirt with faceless male inserts at cafes and shit.
Boat girls is literally a harem series where all the girls want the player's dick. And there is a harem marriage system in place.
I dont know flop dragon and little sales academia are fighting among each other?
It is just bad luck that they are being pitted against one of the biggest franchise this decade. There is only so much you can do when everyone is saving their money to buy other stuff.
>All this FlopDragonfags on damage control
LL is full of yuri pandering. Especially the games.
Kancolle has a bunch of gay characters. And Kadokawa confirmed long ago that there are female Teitokus.
Series don't need to be 100% yuri to pander to yurifags. They are the most pandered to fanbase in the industry and claiming otherwise is fucking ridiculous.
Almost all popular harem franchises are getting yuri spin-offs these days too.
I guess they're getting bored of the same old shit, and want to disincentivize studios from continuing to make "safe money" anime, and encourage them to take more risks and make a wider variety of shows.
Man, that scene is so poorly drawn.
Anyway, the point I'm making is that they are omni pandering trash that tries to appeal to everything just to make the biggest profit. That's not "pandering to yurifags", it's just trying to make money. Pandering to "straightfags" cancels out pandering to yurifags and just changes it to greedy for money.
>Almost all popular harem franchises are getting yuri spin-offs these days too.
If by "yuri spin-offs" you mean "yuri baiting where the girls still actually want the dick" than yeah, sure. There's no actual confirmed explicit yuri in any of those spins offs.
He said sales don't affect most studios. Give the shitposting a rest you fucking cancer. I wish this screencap could just eliminate all sales threads on /a/.
I never really notice Youjo Senki fans because
they don't invade threads all the time just to shove their show in everyone else' face all the time.That's why I'm cool with them.
After damage controlling, now you start projecting? Look in the mirror from time to time, flopdragonfag.
/pol/ and their epic shitposting, only reason I don't go on the threads.
They're pretty shit as well, can't really think of a good series thread this season. Checked the LWA ones and every time it's the same "lol /u/ BTFO!!!" stuff.
I'm pretty sure LWAfags are the ones constantly inciting sales shitposting. Every self contained thread has discussion about their own show just fine but LWA threads specifically constantly gets kicks from 'others' getting mad. The behavior and lingo in the threads completely match /v/ and also remind me of how every naruto thread during the ending was about how mad tumblr was. It's also no secret LWA threads have the most crossboarders this season.
I didn't deny it though, people like cute girls doing cute things, I'd just rather not slog through dogshit CGI when there's all the cute art that look infinitely better than the show itself.
Makes sense, explains why every single time I go on one of the threads it's another "/u/ BTFO guys!" day.
Nope. The manga is pretty niche. It doesn't have huge amounts of fan service like the anime does and Lolidragon isn't rubbing herself over other lolis in it every chapter.
They literally used the 'best' material for the anime to the point that the release order of the episodes is fuck all like the manga.
Read the manga for yourself and you'll see why Kyoani did so to get the pedo and moe markets.
Kaiji looks amazing though, it's stylised so it isn't an eyesore to look at. Kemono Friends is just really bad CGI.
Yeah, okay sure. I'll go back now so that no one can have differing opinions from you anymore.
You can now freely think how your flopping show is doing great and how its fanbase is the most saint-like in terms of behavior among all of /a/.
>Kemono Friends is just really bad CGI
Yes it is and that's because the production of the show is extremely cheap but you rarely see people that have picked it up complain about how bad the CGI is, and that's because everything else is great.
Hell, this week's episode had some of the worst CG in the series so far and it's still breaking jap twitter right now regardless.
>its fanbase is the most saint-like in terms of behavior among all of /a/
Well if that doesn't prove that you have not been on /a/ for more than maybe a month, then nothing will.
What's so good about it then? What makes it worth picking up? If it's just cute girls doing cute things there's a lot of other shows that do just that while also actually looking good.
I wish I wasn't too obsessed with animation, I really want to watch Kemono Friends but it's way too hard with the CGI quality. Like borderline impossible. I managed one and a half episodes of the new Berserk before I couldn't take that one anymore.
Was thinking the same, Looking at the show it doesn't really stand out or look appealing.
Maybe the characters are interesting and it being set in a Zoo or Safari Park.
Not him but the show is shit. The first couple of episodes were entertaining but after that it began being lolifanservice nonsense and it lacks any sort of market for anyone else.
There's not really anything for moefags.
There's no school.
The only relatable character is a fucking nobody who isn't entertaining herself outside of MUH DRUNK NERD.
The dragons are all one note tropefests but lack any appeal aside from pedo fan service.
It's a severly lacking series overall for the Japanese market and the only things I see it being praised for outside of Japan is loli shit.
If the goldfaces and the dumb faggot posting a screencap without removing his (You) samefagging in here didn't prove it's mainly /v/ false flag shitposting then you're probably a /v/ dumb shit yourself who actually falls for that crap.
Anyone mind posting the actual winder sales charts?
I'm curious where Kemono Friends is. From just basic google search I only see that it's popular on twitter through being mentioned a lot.
Because the generals tend to be full of lolifags who are circle jerking the series.
Want a decent fanbase? Look at Kemono Friends.
Noone watches Maidragon for the jokes. They are watching for THICCLOLI and nothing else at this point because there's nothing else to watch it for.
The jokes are bad.
The characters are boring.
The situations are either fan service or boring.
The fan service is pretty fucking bad aside from the loli related shit because the manga had next to none aside from the single mention of loli and maidufag licking one another to keep clean and the loli 'rape' scene.
It's just a SEVERELY lacking series hence why they had to front load it with all the interesting shit.
Why are there so many of these faggots who need to be convinced to watch a show? If you're so bloody curious, fucking watch it yourself. If you're too shallow to enjoy a show because you can't get the past the animation, then it's clearly not for you.
This isn't even to mention the retards who hate on the show just for the sake of bandwagoning and haven't even seen a single episode.
Don't pretend your /v/ console war culture is part of /a/, cancer. Maybe you're too new to know but we used to just call each other's favorite shows shit and changed the titles to variances of "shit". Less than a decade ago it would be "shit dragon" and "little shit academia". Now everything's sales related because you /v/tards got tired of console war shitflinging and now seek to spread your cancer to /a/.
Should really ask mods to directly crack down on this shit like frogposting before it really gets out of hand.
That's because you're the type of literal retard who's responsible for console wars to still exist on /v/, because you're so stupid that you take any basic shitpost completely seriously.
Ah, I see. I found this while I was google searching. Maybe KF is doing well because it tells failures they're good at things. And it's a moral boost.
>projecting on that
Except what he said is correct.
All the MD threads have been ANIME OF THE SEASON OH GOD LOOK AT THIS SHIT RAVIOLI RAVIOLI. They've been pushing this as the new big anime for the season but it's undersold every other 'moe' series despite the prestigious studio and their fanbase.
It's a major flop.
I'd say it's more because of this description.
>Referring to the simplistic and childish but addictive nature of the show, it has been described (in ironic disapproval) as "causing one's IQ to melt" and "lowering one's intelligence".
If simply lurking the threads doesn't outright confirm it then here's a goodie for you, newfag.
I fail to see any canon relationships in any of those apart from Madoka, which is just one sided.
Oh right, because they're all yuribait!
Every time yurifags get challenged they start to include any anime with a large female audience as "it's exclusively aimed at US YURIFAGS!!!1!"
I'm not assuming the OP is anything. I didn't come because I assumed he was serious. I came to laugh and point at the MD fags who are crying that their sub-par series is flopping and to rub it in with the Kyoanibros who think they can do no wrong.
When you are doing worse than Kemono Friends then you need to start rethinking what you watch and why you watch it.
>you need to start rethinking what you watch and why you watch it.
You sound like you need to take a forever-long break from 4chan if you seriously care about what others watch this much
stay mad kyoanus yurifag
The guy who posted that is a massive yurifag and bought 10 copies of Sakura trick and Flip Floppers. Even he understands his fetish is shit and doesn't sell.
>you will never be a /v/edditor who crossboards and only comes out of the woodwork to post in threads made to make you feel like you are in with or hip with the board culture
Can't wait to see what ingenious yamyam you'll think up next. Maybe next time you'll be REALLY clever and put flop in the title twice.
It's a meme that caught on early in the show because of the first few episodes(particularly the second one), but the show wouldn't really be so dominant right now if it wasn't actually any good.
It's as yaoibait as any yuribait, except we should be saying subtext instead of bait instead of being stupid crossboard newfags who don't know the difference between subtext and bait.
It's flopping because everyone in the manga is GAY.
Literally every woman is a dyke, every male is gay.
Pro LGBT shit doesn't fly in Japan despite the girls having ridiculous amounts of fanservice.
No, it was terrible. Stop lying to yourself. It was literally an animated comedy fanfic doujin. Everyone was out of character, and the skits could have all been done with anime original characters.
>I actually suspect it to be that autist who's been waging a solo war on yuri for the last few years and got range banned once for it.
I'm actually not watching LWA, but I was very pleased when Tattun said yuri in LWA is "fanfiction" and all the girls were confirmed het. Also the range ban was for dumping cuck porn in a "can girls love girls" thread, unrelated to my agenda of removing yurifags off /a/.
Only since Hibike s1.
No. Yurifags are a guarantee market in Japan. The problem it has is it's not Yuribait and it's boring.
The only 'redeeming' factor it has is the lolibait shit. Other than that it's a failure on every level.
>because of how much of a joke it is.
It literally made it into the news multiple times because of how popular it is.
>first decent show kyoani has made in like 7 years
>crossboarders hate it because it's popular
>The only decent show Kyoani has made since 2011 was Amagi.
>No monetary compensation
Really boggling my mind
That is a bit of a reach, mate.
>No. Yurifags are a guarantee market in Japan. The problem it has is it's not Yuribait and it's boring.
I hate how people started using the term yuribait as if there's actually people out there who like seeing yuri subtext but hate the idea of seeing yuri text. Surely you realize how ridiculous the very idea sounds?
The reason why "yuribait" anime exists is not because they're trying to pander to yurifags, but because they're trying to pander to several different audiences, with yurifags being one of them. Yurifags would love to see subtext "relationships" lead to something substantial, but that can't happen since they're not the only group that anime panders to, and the other groups would get mad if it happened.
The average "yuribait" anime appeals not just to yurifags, but also to purityfags and waifufags. Purityfags don't want to see any kind of relationship, they want pure character who don't even know of sex. They don't get particularly upset over yuri subtext since yuri isn't treated as a serious thing the way a male love interest would be (but sometimes it can cross the line - remember those screencaps of Japs getting angry over Kumiko-Reina subtext scenes?). The same applies to waifufags. /a/ has created this strawman of waifufags where they're self-insertfags who self-insert as a random male character and then want themselves/that character to get the girl. But in reality, waifufags can hate male characters just as much, if not more, than yurifags. Remember Konobi from a couple of seasons ago? MC was a hardcore otaku with a harem of waifus. In one episode, he literally dropped a waifu because she got a male love interest in her anime. If here were an anon he'd probably spend his days in LWA threads shitting on Andrew.
This fag is so annoying. He literally asks the same question every fucking time and gets the same answers, yet he still keeps going.
That flip is seriously crazy, and I don't mean that in the insulting way. Looking at a lot of the posts he maid, the guy's genuinely delusional. He's been doing that for quite a long while now, maid dragon and flip flap is just his most recent autism.
He's a retarded flip.
Here this is his wikipedia account before he changed it, notice how he loved Naruto.
it's worth reading his opinion on the shit, like pro gay marriage and being a hardcore liberal.