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>SS3-tier SS
>SSG
>SSGSS

Why is Vegeta so perfect?
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>>154841192
>>SS3-tier SS
lel you will never, ever get SSJ3 vegeta.
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>>154841256
Good, SS3 is fucking disgusting
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>>154841192

Reminder SS4 > SSG/SSGSS
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>>154841757
>being a furry
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>>154841757
Low test nu-male detected.
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Reminder that Dragon Ball Super is considered the blunder of the century because of Toei's shoddy production

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SlrcxeQau1E
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>>154841903
>>154841924
>Literal re-colors
>A form that embodies Saiyan nature and ferocity.
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OP and mangafag here.

Fuck off, when you start a war is even more annoying because we're supposed to be not as stupid as toeishills are
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This war would end if people just admit the anime is canon and the manga is retarded toyo fanfiction.
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>>154842155
Enjoy Toei's fanfiction with Toyotaro characters
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>>154842123
SSG should've had a tail desu
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>>154842255
Tails are cool shit
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>>154842243
>the four universes who don't have to fight are designed by Toyotaro

Huh.
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>>154842426
I wish I have the courage to do it as well

And I'm not even joking
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>>154842546
>the four universes who will survive no matter which one wins the tournament are designed by Toyotaro
>also half of the universes who are in the tournament are designed by Toyotaro as well (and half of them by Toriyama at same time)

I don't get your point
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>>154841192
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>>154841192
>>154842661
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>>154842661

Both are shitty doppelgängers and you should kill yourself.
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mangafags btfo can't even recover
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>>154842682
>>154842705
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The manga is such an enigma compared to the anime it's so laughable. No one reviews it, rarely anyone gives it praise, and it's made by some shit fan fiction-tier artist/author. No, it's not "more canon" because Toriyama approves of it. It isn't written by him, nor is it drawn by him. Same goes for the anime, but at least that's more enjoyable than the terribly handled story-telling in the manga. The manga will never become anything outside of V-Jump and the volumes issued. When someone says "Dragon Ball Super," first thing that'll come to their minds is the anime, not the promotional, garbage manga. Toyble's involvement with this series was a huge mistake. He's bringing in material from his AF doujins, and even based one of the new God of Destruction from a GT antagonist. How bad is that? Only Toyble could come up with something like it. Toriyama doesn't care about Toyble, he's simply glad that he doesn't have to draw Dragon Ball anymore himself.
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>>154842426
good luck, may the god send you to a parallel world as an hero anon!!
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>>154842705
YOU INHERITED THE BLOOD OF SAIYA PEOPLE
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>>154842749

>movie rehash
>another movie rehash
>tournament
>Dragon Ball AF rehash
>another tournament

These are the DBS story arcs so far.

And people wonder we say GT was better.
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>>154842795
kek so is this the new pasta?
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>>154842749
is this toyo making super like his manga or is it super copying his manga almost 100%?
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>>154841192
>>154842874
>>154842842
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Why are Toeishills so insecure and frightened by the manga?
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>>154842243
why don't you read toyo Super AF manga
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>>154842980
>why are toeishills so insecure and frightened by the actual canon version which actually explain things and cares about consistency?
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>>154841192
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>>154841192

>DBS manga Vegeta's best trick was practically Goku's old Kaioken quick burst from way back in the Namek saga
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>>154843252
>Kaioken quick burst
Do you mean this? That's not fucking KK, Goku was already strong enough to destroy Recoom, Butter and Jeice, he's just reserving his energy, that's what Vegeta did last chapter.
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>>154843078
Why are Vegeta fags so cringey?
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>>154843252
>DBS manga Vegeta's best trick was practically Goku's old Kaioken quick burst from way back in the Namek saga
toyofags damage control not even the same thing
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>>154843347

Goku did something similar during his brief spar with Trunks when he shifted from SSJ3 to SSB. I would guess Goku was already experimenting with the various forms while Vegeta is late to pick up on that approach given his brute force methods.
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>>154843596
>SSJ3 to SSB
Goku only went SSG (not Blue) for one second, that's far away Vegeta.
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I bring leaks to you guys.


I hate tripfags but you guys will remember these words.

This saga is going to be long, there will be a bunch of filler episodes.

>Filler episode featuring the angels in a tea party while everyone if fighting
>Filler episode with all the GoDs talking about their teams (this happens at the same time as the tea party filler)
>Filler featuring how twin universes work and how their flow of time diverges
>Filler featuring how someone becomes a GoD
>Most fillers happen during the fight, the fight stops and the screen goes sepia then an unnamed narrator says the stuff.
>Filler about zen-oh or zeno whatever and the angels (the angels have to serve someone or they become incomplete and they follow something greater, zeno is childish on purpose because you need to have innocense to have his kind of powers, he is pretty weak but he can erase anything)
>Filler about roshi but idk what it is
>Fusion is basically prohibited but it ends up being allowed halfway thru the match
>The universes that are not participating barelly have fighters stronger than the androids
>Just universe 6, 7, 11 and 2 have Goku-tier fighters
>(almost)Everyone will go against goku and some universe 7 fighters will lie about which universe they are from, universe 6 will be allied with 7
>Magetta starts the tournament in the middle of the arena around a lot of weak fighters, one of them calls him something bad and his entire apperances thru the saga is going go be him walking towards the edge of the arena trying to quit but he is too slow and the arena is too big
>Jiren the gray doesnt know about what happens to the losers
>If the time runs out everyone gets erased but time limit will end up being longer
>Xeno will literally play a plagiarized nintendo switch during a boring fight and those fighters will get powered up.
>Female broly doesnt have a name, she is called by some "fearsome" nickname, she has a crush on cabba on first sight
>Goku and vegeta will powerup cabba at ...
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>>154843692

I guess this is where Vegeta got his idea then.
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>>154843032
You just described the manga.
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>>154843347
He later does invisible Kaioken against Freeza where King Kai reveals he has been using KKx10 this whole time when asked by Tenshinhan.
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Why don't they just teach Kaioken to everyone? DB is gay.
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>>154844009
Because Toei is shit
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>>154843955
>invisible Kaioken
No, Zbaby, he didn't.
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>>154844039
True, but Toei isn't doing the outline
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Continuation

>... some point
>Goku wont be the last man standing on the arena
>The arena is B I G
>Goku wont have any new SS transformations
>Someone literally kills himself to disqualify krillin
>Nothing is planned after this saga
>Toei basically had ramification for this saga in which he changed a few things, the last 2 times they didnt show another episode was to change things a bit ( changing kai's "bodyguard" from jiren to toppo ) all due to "social media feedback"

Im an intern at bandai namco's HQ

Screenshot both, they are a bit far-fetched but just you wait, also english isnt my natal language

Also Dark souls PTD and Dark Souls 3 are coming to the switch
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Don't mind me, just posting P E R F E C T I O N.
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>>154844121
Where else can you fucking possibly go?

Universal death is the highest threat possible.
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>>154842255
I agree.
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>>154842980
They just can't handle it.
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>>154841757
Still a weak shit compared to SSG/SSB
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>>154844058
That doesn't change the fact Tenshinhan litterally states Goku still has the Kaioken and gets surprised.

http://mangaseeonline.us/read-online/Dragon-Ball-chapter-118-index-2-page-14.html

You can clearly see that Goku's aura in those pictures are only for a select few moments, even if not invisible he flickers it on and off.
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>>154843775
>>154844121
That's bullshit but I believe it.
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>>154841757
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>>154841757
SS4 isn't better than anything on account of it being non-canon.
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>>154844121
>>154843775
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>>154843078
Helles is not for that delete this
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>>154844236
>he flickers it on and off.
Because he's not using KK every second he fights you literal autist. There's an aura? Kaioken. There's not? No Kaioken.
That's how it works, "invisible" KK is just a stupid headcanon created asuming Toei didn't fucked up not showing how Goku use KK so fans just said "oh he's using KK but it's invisible!!!"
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I like both the anime and the manga for different reasons, the same way I did with both DB and Z, but I have to admit outside of him getting SS2 I really don't like manga Black.
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>>154844325
Yeah that makes sense. First I wasn't the person you were responding to, and second the aura first drawn all around Goku and the aura drawn from that linked panel on looks exactly the same.
Without any color, when I read the initial manga over a decade ago you couldn't have told the difference between powering up normally or kaioken.
The line by Tenshinhan clearly have been mistaken by anon earlier as the Power level fluctuations that Goku used against Jeice and Burter.
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Could regular Goku use Super Saiyan Rose?
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>>154844430
2 decades ago*
shit time flies.
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>>154844509
Gotta naturally have a "Godly Spirit", perhaps you gotta be born a shinjin or some other godlike deity-race.
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>>154843775
>>Magetta starts the tournament in the middle of the arena around a lot of weak fighters, one of them calls him something bad and his entire apperances thru the saga is going go be him walking towards the edge of the arena trying to quit but he is too slow and the arena is too big
I want this.
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>>154844121
>>Goku wont be the last man
REDEEMED
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>>154845037
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>>154845093
Leave the Mortal level to me!
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Everyone excited for the return of Mr. Potential?
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>>154844121
If I'm to believe supreme !OPoepEgxs's leaks then the future of Super really does hinge on this upcoming arc's success. Makes sense why Toriyama and Toyotaro designed U2 and U11 GoDs together.

Also interesting that the top 4 universes with the highest mortal levels that exempt from the tournament don't have planet destroying people.

Geez I had nightmares last night after all the absorption fetishists last thread.

I'm also assuming the times the screen goes sepia and the fillers kick in are the times where the background story is explained regarding the competitors from the other Universes.

>Someone literally kills himself to disqualify krillin
Dark
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Did that guy stop translating Dragon Ball Heroes? I thought it was just starting to get enjoyable too.
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>>154842546
another way of looking at it
>toriyama had a hand in designing all the relevant GoD for this arc
Probably means the other 4 will never be relevant.
I actually wonder if the end result will be the revelation that the higher mortal levels only exist because in those universes, kaioshins and GoD have effectively wiped out all the strong characters, and no one threatens anyone anymore, so no one gets stronger.
Goku and crew will start to think maybe they are endangering everyone, and so they'll go on to train others.
Vegeta and Goku train Goten and Trunks, Piccolo visits namek to train them, etc.
Goku tells Satan that he wants him to host another tournament, but Satan says that takes time, and he probably can't get the stadium built for another couple of years.
So a couple more story arcs, with the kids growing up, before they get to Uub.
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>>154842243
>Shit looking 'GT-esque' pablo characters are by toyotaro
>Good looking DB-esque characters are by Toriyama

Really fires my neurons
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>"WOW GUYS LOOK VEGETA CAN GO A FORM HE'S ALREADY SURPASSED"
...okay...
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>>154845420
I thought the U10 GoD looked pretty good.
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>>154842255
yep
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>>154845448
I didn't mind the design of any of the GoDs. They were all different in some form or other so they all catered to somebody's preference.

Apart from maybe Kitera I don't think many people cared about Chuck E Cheese
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Leave the tournament to me
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>>154842979
Th worst thing is the one with Xicor looks BETTER.
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>>154842979
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>>154845390
I dunno who you're talking about, but there's only 29 chapters of the Victory Mission manga, mostly because Toyble went on to do the DBS manga.

Charisma Mission and Dark Demon Realm Mission are on-going, but people are too lazy to get Saikyo Jump to translate it.
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>>154843775
>Female broly doesnt have a name, she is called by some "fearsome" nickname, she has a crush on cabba on first sight
Bullshit. She will have a name, why wouldn't Toyo or Toriyama name her? Literally no reason. She's D I V I N E.
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>>154845537
That art looks so bad..
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http://blog.livedoor.jp/toyble/
>Toyotaro's old toyble blog
Memories.
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>>154845544
I bet she'll have a crush on Jobhan for being the weakest fighter and jobbing will be her fetish because her power is maximum.
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>>154845684
>her power is maximum.
You can leave now.
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>>154845544
Brola will have a crush on Trunks for maximum meme.
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>>154845369
>Geez I had nightmares last night after all the absorption fetishists last thread.

The fuck happened last thread?
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>>154845809
Last thread had a bunch of furries bullying smugpup and getting off on the idea of killing him and usually by some manner of graphic vore you know internet stuff.
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>>154844121
Will Gohan become a ssg?
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Are you thankful for Dragon Ball Heroes? If so, explain why.

I am thankful for DBH because it helped in the franchise's resurgence all the way back in 2010.
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>>154845949
I'm not because it killed the franchise by bringing it back to life.
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>>154845949
>Heroes is responsible for Super
wtf I hate heroes now
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It brought back Cell-X.
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>>154846113
What am I looking at
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>>154846113
Which totally misses the point of his progress to perfection.
>with every absorbed android Cell becomes more human-like, handsome, strong, perfect
>Cell-X is an ugly monster abomination
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>>154843775
Poor Magetta
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>>154846178
Yeah he looks like a silly bulky generic ultraman kaiju
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>>154846178
Isn't that kind of the point, seeing as Cell-X is an unnatural transformation?
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Do you even god form?
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>>154845949
Well if it helped DBS creation then alright sure
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>>154843775
>>Just universe 6, 7, 11 and 2 have Goku-tier fighters

Assuming each Universe has 2-3 Goku tier fighters and going by their relevance in the intro by how far they are at the front or how prominently they appear we'd have:

U7 - Goku, Vegeta
U6 - Hit, Cabba?
Femme Broly?
U11 - Pride Troopers
U2 - Tumblr-Chan? Smugpup?
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>>154846234
I don't know how exactly those dark dragon balls affect the reasoning of the person, but something cliche like "Prince of Darkness" Cell would still work as a "dark" buff and be inline with his character. How was Freeza affected? I don't think I saw any new form for him.
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>>154846257
>tfw no DBH in english for 3DS.
>you would never play as a qt female ssg
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>>154846302

Maybe top line moving to the left is all of U11, middle line moving to the right is all of U2.

Obviously at the front is U7 on the left and U6 on the right.
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>>154846392
Seems to make sense given they only designed 4 relevant god tier level Universes.

U9 Bergamo and Basil already confirmed shit tier, and Bergamo was jobbing in the opening credits.
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>>154846361
Cell-X already existed from Dragon Ball Online, I guess they just wanted to reuse it while Frieza didn't have anything like that.

With that said, Evil Dragon Ball Kid Buu gets a new form too from absorbing Dabura.

I think Cell-X is absolutely stupid myself, I wish they had of just forgotten it.

>>154846385
It's not like you really need to understand the games story to enjoy it, you can easily play Japanese games on any 3DS now. The problem is how fucking expensive the Heroes games are. Looking forward to the new one.
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>>154846392
>>154846438

Yeah none of U9 can been seen as any of those shadows so it might be safe to assume they're U2 and U11 as the shadows. Smugpup confirmed Universe 2?
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>>154846454
Yeah, I know it's from DBO, thought maybe Freeza got something similar too and the effects are similar - bulky monstrous Freeza, maybe something like a combination of his 3rd and 4th forms which would be kinda like that new huge King Cold form in Multiverse, fuck me. Just to set a standard for that dark stuff.
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>>154846529
I don't even think Frieza has gotten any new transformations in DBH.
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>>154846548
What about Angered Golden Form?
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Why can't Gohan go mystic anymore? Did his "potential" somehow get locked up again after Elder Kai unlocked it?
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>>154846590
so far it's unexplained
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>>154846590
He jobbed his potential away.
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>>154846590
>Mystic
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>>154846392
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>>154846590
I wouldn't be surprised if it was retconned to be just a temporary thing like the potara.
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>>154846590
It seems to be more along the lines of his body isn't in shape enough to use it again yet.
That makes sense.
His full potential, as we saw, was ridiculously high. If he's not in good enough shape, it would kill him.
Which is why when he fell out of shape, he had to rely on SS.
SS alters the body.
The first time, he had been training for quite some time, due to the tournament.
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>>154846590
Because mystic was never a form or a transformation.
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What's his power level?
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Female zamatsu would have been better
>hates ningens
>instead of stealing goku's body, she tricks him into sex
>their half god/saiyan son is the new future zamatsu
>awkward tranny fusion
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>>154846590
In Dragon Ball Super, Gohan powered up into his Potential Unleashed state in order to fight against the God of Destruction Beerus, however, he was easily incapacitated by the god. Later, Gohan goes Super Saiyan during the Super Saiyan God ritual in order to allow his father to ascend to Super Saiyan God.

During Frieza's revenge, it was shown that despite manifesting his true potential, regular training is still required to keep up his peak performance as, during his battle against the resurrected Frieza and his army, Gohan could no longer draw out his full potential and lost much of his power after focusing purely on his education.

You are welcome.
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>>154846906
no horndog
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>>154846906
>Female Zamasu
Just read AF.
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>>154846906
Literally AF then?
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>>154846906
That would make it a literal copy paste of AF
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POP QUIZ:

Which Shonen Jump mangaka drew this Goku?

A previous post hints at the answer.
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>>154847078
>filename
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>>154847078
>araki hirohiro

Sorry smugpup here and I can read moonrunes.
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>>154847078
Says right there.
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>>154847152
lol didn't even notice the filename and just went straight to reading the hiragana on the signature
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>Golden Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan 2 Rage/Ikari Super Namekian after fighting his Cell Jrs for multiple years to get constant Zenkai boosts and after traveling in time to meet a previous version of himself and perform potara fusion
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>>154847208
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>>154847208
>meet a future version of himself and perform potara fusion
fixed
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>>154847152
>>154847193
>>154847197
GODDAMMIT, I FUCKED UP
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>>154846831
Probably deceptively low

Jotaro probably doesn't have a lot of Ki to give off a power level

Though Star Platinum is probably on par with an end of DB/beginning of Z Goku

Thought that might be far too generous because you don't need to be quite that strong to be moving inhumanly fast.
Early Turtle training let Goku & Krillin fight so fast that they had to re-enact an entire scene with Roshi to the audience who just saw a split second finish
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>>154847078
Dicasty?
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>>154847295
ahahahaha that shrub
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>>154847208
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>>154847268
Star Platinum is nowhere near end of DB Goku. End of DB Goku was stronger than Roshi who was a casual moon buster. Don't forget that beginning of DB Goku sent the Rabbit guy up to the moon using the power pole. It's entirely possible that start of DB Goku would have been able to take out Ultimate Kars.

>there are Jojo fags who actually think ZA WARUDO would work on Goku
>implying Goku wouldn't just move in stopped time because he's beyond the stand's power
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>>154847295
>should of
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>>154847348
>reminding me
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>>154846831
Faggot/10
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>>154847252
Maybe edit the filename, signature and description out next time. Those are 3 major giveaways.

>araki in filename
>araki hirohiro as signature
>description outright says the creator of the JoJo series.
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>>154847346
Anon, Goku surpassed Roshi by the time the 22nd WT came by.
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>>154847410
Roshi would have given Goku a good fight in the 22nd WT if Roshi didn't just surrender against Tien. Roshi was clearly above Goku in the 21st. Goku steamrolled through the 23rd until he met Piccolo.
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>>154847451
Roshi mentioned during the 22nd that Goku, Krillin and co. were leagues above him as he had nothing left to teach them anymore. Roshi wasn't necessarily that much stronger than Goku in the 21st WT either, with Roshi only winning against Goku because of the difference in height once the two collided with kicks.
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Would you play as Hoverchair Frieza in a game?
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>>154846831
Dio vs Goku
who wins?
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>>154847534
Goku
See >>154847346
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>>154847531
If I could use it to kill Gohan then it'd be priceless
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>>154847531
Yes

>>154847534
Dio wins because JoJo characters always win when they've only got a slight margin of winning

but because Dio would win because he has a slight margin of winning that might make Goku the underdog which would make him win.

If Goku doesn't understand Dio's powers then he might be arrogant enough to fuck around with Dio, which would let Dio stop time and punch him in a relaxed state or laser eye his eyes or whatever.

Or Scary Monsters Dio could just get one attack in and then turn Goku into a dinosaur slave.

But if Goku knows he must absolutely win no matter what and can't fuck around then he just turns Dio into a pink mist after the bell is struck but before vibrations travel through the bell to make a ringing sound
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>>154847386
>>araki hirohiro as signature
You mean Hirohiko. ひろひこ
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>>154847754
I blame his handwriting.
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When
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>>154847853
Sad!
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>>154847853
Never, SSJ Bra would be more likely
>will never see Pan get self concious that Bra can transform, but she can't
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>>154841192

>can't go ssj3

Ssj3 is the best looking form of supersaiyan.
Also
>Jobgeta vs Jobbohan
>who jobs more?
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>>154847853
When smugpup trains her to become stronger than her jobbing father.
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>>154847929
jobhan wouldn't be clever enough to job more manlet wins
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>>154844093
that's retarded
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>>154847929
Although Vegeta has a larger jobbing record, his jobs are not as spectacularly pathetic as Goyhan's. Goyhan literally uses his abilities as a distress beacon now whereas Vegeta lasts a fair while.
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So will Vegeta and Goku give Gohan the God power as an extra boost for this arc?
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>>154848045
Highly doubtful. Goyhan's role is simply to provide backup nowadays.
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>>154848045
god please no
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Young Vegeta best Vegeta
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>>154848187
>niggastream
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>>154848202
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>>154848187
>>154848262
Aw shit, he's gone too young!
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>>154847979
Forget that, make smugpup train Pan up so she's stronger than her Grandfather.
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>>154841757
Furryfag on steroids detected. I assume you think Broly >>>> Beerus/Zamasu/Every DBS antagonist
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>>154848420
something looks different
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will best gohan ever come back
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>>154848456
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He's just not wearing his armor.
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>>154848478
no yamchan is erased forever you still might get him videogames
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>>154848425
Yes but the twist is that she's a fight autist with an actual sense of responsibility but bra is her mad scientist counterpart, much more crazy and experimental than her mother to counterbalance that. Bra uses her experiments on smugpup as a pseudo-laboratory animal.
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Would you?
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>>154848536
die by his hands?
Of course I want the honour of being the first ningen killed for the cleansing of this world
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>>154848578
ningen lives must be protected, even yours
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>>154848590
You may think what you want. The divine justice of Zamasu does not care for your opinions he shall make this world beautiful again in his godly vision and you will be thankful for it!
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A new trailer for DBH Ultimate Mission X was released. Watch it til the end, this game is fucking crazier than the arcade game!?

https://youtu.be/dlojhiLnwsc

Over 3,300 characters, forms and variations and they can all be leveled up and customized! Also, you can make and upload custom missions too!
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>>154848656
To me, justice does not matter, justice is simply an ideal that can be warped to one's perspective. All that matters to me is that ningen lives are to be cherished and protected. There is little beauty to be found in death, when there is plenty to be found in life.
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>>154842243

Anyone else think it'd be cool if one of the universes was the gourmet universe that Toriko takes place in, and for some reason Toriko characters entered the tournament 10 years after the manga's end after the "travel the universe fighting stellar beings" story?

That way Toriko can close off the lose ends including the god oni inside him that we never got to see, and Toriyama can end his cross-over boner with Toriko by making it Cannon in the DB story.
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>>154848692
can't wait to play it in 15 years
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So Zeno clearly isn't omnipotent, which leads me to ask the question.

What the fuck is he. He can just will universes out of existence for no actual reason

Also, isn't the timeline the other zeno was in flipping out that their child god emperor is literally just missing?
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>>154848812
When Zeno erased everything in the other timeline I'm pretty sure there was nobody to really flip out over the fact that he was missing,
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>>154848812
probably reading a book or sleeping or waiting to invade us
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>>154848812
>isn't the timeline the other zeno was in flipping out
Pretty sure he erased everything, not just U7, in Future Trunks's timelime.
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>>154842243
The U9 GoD looks like Toriyama reused the design of one of his Dragon Age characters. Probably a stone mason or something.
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>>154848872
>Dragon Age
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>>154848917
I meant Dragon Quest obviously.

Sorry all this MEA and Bioware shit recently made me mix it up my bad.
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How fucked are we?
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>>154842682
Because in the anime he has "muh unlimited growth" if he keeps getting beaten, while in the manga he can at best reach Goku's level prior to the body swap.
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>>154846113
>CAN'T HANDLE ALL THIS PERFECTION
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>>154844301
"my dad works at nintendo"
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>>154849044
>dubbies
how much does your daddy earn there?
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>>154848692
it's times like these i wish i had a 3ds
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>>154849124
he gets paid in leaks
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Would you fight along side Team Goku?
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>>154848045
They're a bunch of idiots if they don't at least mention or try this. There existence is on the line so the only reason not to try and train Gohan to SSB is retardation.
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>>154849234
>the only reason not to try and train Gohan to SSB is retardation
inb4 "but Gohan will do the strategy, so it's fine if he doesn't fight as hard as he possibly could".
Given the 4 hour limit until the start, I think it's unlikely either way.
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>>154849305
I bet they won't even use the time chamber.
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>>154849209
That looks like a terrifyingly overpowered villain team.
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>>154849354
They'll most likely use their 40 (not 4, that was a typo) hours to convince Vegeta to join and gathering the other members. Of course, Goku has to find a lewd magazine for Roshi before he comes with them. I know, but it's Toei.
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Alright, so, the U7 team is gonna be:
- Goku
- Vegeta
- Gohan
- Piccolo
- Krillin
- 18
- 17
- Buu
- Roshi
- Tien

How would you organise them from strongest to weakest?
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>>154849396
Goku
Vegeta
Buu
Piccolo
17
18
Krillin
Tien
Roshi
Gohan
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>>154849396
Goku/Vegeta
Gohan
Buu
Pickle/Krillin
18/17
Tenshinhan
Roshi
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SSBKK > Super Saiyan Cuck (god)
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>>154849424
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>>154843775
>Female broly doesnt have a name, she is called by some "fearsome" nickname, she has a crush on cabba on first sight
Boring, I was hoping she'd like either Goku or Vegeta.
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>>154849396
- Goku
- Vegeta
- Buu
- Gohan
- Piccolo
- 17
- 18
- Tien
- Krillin
- Roshi
Gohan is most likely going to move up in this arc.
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>>154849396
Goku
Vegeta
Buu
Krillin
Piccolo
17
Gohan
18
Roshi
Tiencuckhan
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because the tournament is actually a 80 player smash bros match
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NzhPYM650KQ
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>>154849396
youre a little bit late here my friend.

1 Goku
2 Vegeta
3 Buu/Gohan (Buu is strongest if Gohan doesn't powerup before the tournament)
4 Buu/Gohan
5 Piccolo
6 17/18
7 17/18
8 Tein (Krillen has been living as a cop for a while, Tein has been training)
9 Krillen
10 Roshi
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>>154843775
That is bullshit, but
>she has a crush on cabba on first sight
I'll believe it.
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>>154848489
I'll never understand why his blade randomly changed shape during this attack

In fact I'll never understand the whole scythe thing either
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>>154848026
I don't know, Vegeta's recent jobs to Hit and Black (the first time around when he got stabbed) were pretty bad
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>>154849538
Nothing will ever top Gohan recieving the biggest asspull in DB history and jobbing to Buu after like 5 minutes
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>>154849538
Nowhere near as bad as getting one shot by Tagoma and Frieza and having to go Super Saiyan to deal with Ginyu in the space of a few minutes.
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>>154849555
Is it true that Gohan vs Buu lasted like 2 pages in the manga?
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>>154841192
I feel like they gonna do the following:

>zen-oh pleased with all the fighters
>so instead of erasing he'll merge the twin universes together which brings the number of them down to 8 (4 merged 4 non-participants) and raising average Mortal level
>que filler arcs where Goku and z-jobbers visit formerly 6's Earth and sayans
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>>154844126
I agree but you should've posted a better pic of Jiren
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>>154845891
That's fucking sick, which one of you faggots bullied /ourpup/?
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>>154849396
Since the tournament will allow for wins by ringout, which should make more tactical thinking help overcome the power level differences, I would say 17 and 18 might end up the least contributing in the long run. They have great power, but they didn't work for it, have no experience, might just brute force the fights.

Then we have Krillin, Tien and Roshi who are those more experienced fighters (especially Roshi might shine in some way because of the old master trope), but obviously low power level stands in their way.

Buu and Gohan have a lot o fighting prove, but Buu being Buu, and the weird fetish of people responsible for Super to make Gohan into the laughing stock of the series mean they might not be as useful as their strength would suggest.

Piccolo has a decent power level (should be above 17/18 now, obviously far below Gohan, Buu, Goku and Vegeta, but that still makes him the middle of the group), combined with relying on tactics, technique and overall smarts. Can contribute a lot.

Goku and Vegeta are obviously the absolute powerhouses here, also very experienced, the problem in their cases are their character flaws and saiyan nature. Should contribute the most, but some stupid shit might happen too.

So, in terms of contribution it could be something like that:
Goku & Vegeta > Piccolo > Gohan & Buu = Krillin, Tien & Roshi > 17 & 18
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Rate my team
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>>154849616
>raising average mortal level
That's not how math works.
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>>154848485
fuck that cake and hairstyle on bra looks really good
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>>154849684
>fuck that cake

Well if you insist.
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>>154849696
fuck you don't bring your vag or penis near that sweet sweet delish cake
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>>154842255
a tail and a slight sunwukong look or something would have been rad
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>>154849710
>cakefarts
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>>154849681
>>154849616

Welp i'm a dumb moron. What I meant was that the level of two merged universes would add to each other raising it high enough to the amount which would satisfy zeno
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I skipped the Black arc after a couple episodes in because I didn't really like it. Did Super get a new Animation director because these new arc episodes look great.
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>>154849749
fagit
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>>154849653
>obviously low power level stands in their way
It depends how the power levels of the other teams are distributed. If they are as imbalanced as U7's (two god-level fighters and others way below that).
If the other teams have more evenly distributed power (worst case, all on Goku's and Vegeta's level) then the low-tiers of U7 will get flicked on their forehead once and be incapacitated/ringed out. Otherwise the strongest and weakest of the teams can fight among each other, with the strong ones keeping each other from interfering with the weak ones' battles.
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>>154849780
Retard.
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>>154844838
>Magetta is the last one standing because he's still walking out.
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>that fight with Toppo having fluid as fuck action and an actual split between repeated frame flurries and choreographed fighting
>in a fight that was about 3 minutes long

US Arc literally saving the DBS anime.
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>>154849780
Well nothing of consequence really happened. Like literally nothing, the only thing that came out of it is that there are two Zenos now.

You could easily pretend Trunks never came back from the future and it wouldn't make a difference to the story.
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>>154849829
>the only thing that came out of it is that there are two Zenos now
Which, if you think about it, should be a pretty big thing.
And they are playing at something by showing how the two Zenos fail to synchronize their movement.
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>>154849803
The only strong universes will be the Clown and Helles. Every other universe participating are jobber universes
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>>154849827
It still pisses me off how Vegito Blue vs Zamasu,the biggest fight in terms of power ever in DB, lasted 3 minutes.
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>>154849813
There was too much dumbshit in there that didn't care about like Mai and boring color swapped characters. This new arc's characters look way more fun and interesting.
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>>154849864
>>154849803

Yeah pretty sure Toei got lazy and simply used the outline of all the fighters from U11 in one row, all the fighters from U2 on the next row, and said "fuck the other universes we don't give a fuck" on the webm at >>154846392
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>>154849396

Goku
Vegeta
Buu
Piccolo
#17
#18
Jobbohan
Krillin
Tien
Roshi
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>>154849803
The new trend is giving more characters unique abilities rather than relying on just power level. You can expect Goku and Vegeta to deal with pure fighters like Toppo or Jiren, while Krillin and Roshi take care of someone who requires more figuring out how to deal with a specific tricky power, and not just punching through.
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Which Zen-Oh is trying to copy the other one, Future or Present Zen-Oh?
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>>154849864
This seems more like they are weeding out the stronger universes so they can eliminate any threat that can oppose a God.
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>>154849993
So the final battle will be U7, U6, U11 and U2 vs Grand Priest?
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>>154849954
It wouldn't be all that bad to see Roshi and co. just straight up fight someone who is actually on their level. But I guess them getting opponents with gimmicks is more likely.
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>>154849909
mfw it wasn't a meme and smugpup is actually one of the god tier competitors. wow wtf
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>>154850052
We have Goku and Vegeta for straight up fights with transformations and power struggles. The rest will get mostly gimmicks or jokes. Wouldn't be surprised if someone brought a fighter with an ability specifically countering Buu's regeneration, since it's always a bitch to deal with from writers standpoint, and why they make him sleep or introduce IQ tests, just so they don't have to work around his durability. Or they just might ringout him right away because of that.
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>>154850097
sry to here you iz having no face
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>>154850162
His face fell off in shock, obviously
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>single handedly raises the universe level
>can talk in a relaxed manner around the god of destruction beerus and not be chastised.
>Vegeta says he still has the greatest potential of them all
>Whis and the grand priest are impressed with his power.
>Years of experience fighting with most of team 7 during times his power fluctuated at all points so he is the perfect tactical head.
>Saiyan blood is activating as the crisis increases
Leave everything to me dad.
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Who else thinks that super saiyan blue got introduced too early?
I appreciate that Toyo didn't abadon it like toei did, but it still feels kind of tacked on.
I also think that super saiyan god shouldn't have been called "super saiyan" it should have been called saiyan god or god saiyan since it kinda looks like SSG is just their baseform with god ki and Super saiyan blue should have been introduced later on as super saiyan god.
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>>154850181
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>>154848011
ohh shit ayyy 4:20 I forgot
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>>154849909
Brolina's outline and what MAY be hit is with the U11 combatants.
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>>154850181
sure
Leave Videl to me
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>>154850237
Hit appears at the very front with the other U6 combatants you silly dumbo.
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>>154846392
Isn't one of the silhouettes moving to our left the "female Broly"? Shit, I'm actually starting to believe in the U11 fem-Broly idea.
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>>154850274
Knowing Toriyama's "originality" when it comes to creating new powerful races, U2 and U11 probably have their own version of Saiyans as well.
>>
Are there any genderswaps of Zen'o around?
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>>154850296
Yeah sounds like Dragon Ball "Your universe isn't allowed to be relevant if they don't have saiyajins (laughs)"

But what if Femme Broly is a "Nikujin" :^)
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>>154841192
Dunno, ask 18, buu or cell.
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>>154850181
>Universe Survival is going to be the Cell Games all over again
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>>154850333
Great so we have the Vegetable people, the Meat people, and we're literally including the kitchen and its sink because of the Pride Troopers.

Let's all sit down and have a stew.
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>>154850252
>only saiyan in U7 to be employed.
if we're going to meme he gets chichi, even trade desu.
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>>154849615
Yes
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>>154849555
>asspull

People really need to learn what this term means.
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Rule 1: Must be a kitchen cooking appliance / Utensil

Rule 2: You must create an anagram of the name moving around Japanese katakana pronunciations, not the English word.
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>>154850296
>>154850333
Brolyna isn't a saiyan. Her hair has a green tint and she bulks up like hell. No saiyan has a transformation like that in canon. She is of different race altogether. It makes perfect sense, and that also makes it perfectly logical for her to be in universe without saiyans.
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>>154850366
Vegeta and Trunks handled black so they can relax I guess, Vegeta seems to have his priorities straight with his family.
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>>154850146
I expect Buu to fail spectacularly in some fashion because they played the "oh no, Satan is hurt!" card already.
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>>154850491
"Goku Black isn't a saiyan. His hair has a pink tint and he gays out like hell. No saiyan has a transformation like that in canon."
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>>154850491
SS Grade 3 with a green tint?
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Leave Broly to me
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>>154850191
I agree that SSG didn't get enough screen time but to be fair Toei only used Toriyama's movies as a base and kinda just went with it.
The manga on the other hand has a proper handle of how to utilize such a grand powerup and really nails the concept down perfectly.
In the anime I have no sense of what God Ki is or when people are using it because Beyond God base form.
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>>154846302
>Vegeta
>Goku tier fighter
?
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>>154849615
There's multiple chapters that span across Super Buu all up until Gotenks absorbed failing and Piccolo Buu absorbing Gohan.
Chaptter 496 all the way up to the end of 502.
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>>154847853
whats that from
looks like a heroes video
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>>154850618
Why didn't they do the ritual with trunks?

Truly retarded.
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>>154850473
ブンオー Bunou from Oven
ベナ Bena from Nabe which means Saucepan
クシン Kushin from Sink
ウルボ Ulbo from Bowl
ボウメン Boumen from Menbou which means Rolling Pin
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>>154849396
Goku
Roshi
Buu
Vegeta
Gohan
Piccolo
18
17
Tien
Krillin
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>>154850648
He probably meant more like "GoD-tier", as in ones scouted to be good enough to replace a GoD, which Vegeta was offered once.
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>>154850618
It wasn't a jab at toei for not using it more a jab Tori for making it obsolete so early.
He easily could have made the big reveal in RoF that Goku can use it at will and that vegeta can use it now too.
Hell super saiyan rose could just be Black using Zamasu's god ki to go super saiyan resulting in super saiyan rose and that could even be the inspiration to go blue after that arc.
I am just spitballing her, but I really think that blue was introduced way too early.
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>>154850711
Vegeta's weaker than Toppo so he's fucked
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>>154850722
>but I really think that blue was introduced way too early.
It was, it was to sell RoF movie tickets and merchandising.
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>>154850691
I honestly don't know, but I saw it from this AMV:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RyN1bTrb5fc

I know it can't be Heroes though, because SSJ Pan STILL isn't playable
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>>154850722
Not really it makes sense they'd ditch the shitty ritual form and acquire their own
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>>154850753
>weaker than Toppo
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So piecing together what we've seen so far, are we safe to assume that the candidates for having God Ki level fighting ability are:

Goku
Vegeta
Jiren
Toppo
!Beerus
Hit
Smugpup
Tumblr-chan

Femme Broly seems to be more of a wild card but I'm not sure if she'll be God Ki tier.
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>>154850771
It makes sense not to use the ritual, but the end of the movie kind of implied that Goku could maybe use it on his own like the manga.
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>>154850809
Not really that was just him using the last remnants of god ki in his body
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>>154849907
I feel the exact opposite. I enjoyed all the characters from the Black arc and I have no interest in the characters from this new arc (only care about Android 17).
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>>154850850

I don't feel that way about the Black arc, but I feel the same way about 17, but I'd put the future characters yet to appear that aren't Toppo or Jiren (I'm more excited for !Beerus than I am for Jiren because having someone related to Beerus and Champa be a goofy sentai member amuses me)
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>>154844121
>Dark Souls 3 is coming to the Switch

This is how I know you're lying.
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>>154850758
seeing this kinda makes me realize what potential gt had
but the execution was shit
>tuffle who build a parasite to kill saiyans
>new strong transformation for every saiyan (tecnically)
>fights against ultimate dragons where every fighter could have been involved
>super 17 could have been replaced by a completely new android build by both scientists
>baby vegeta should have gone ssj4 baby vegeta
my biggest problem was that the fights were nothing like in z at all. no punch behind the attacks
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>>154850819
It makes more sense than making a new transformation for a movie then replacing it with a new that is straight up better in the next one.
It also is kinda weird tha ssjb is better than ssjg in almost every possible way.
If blue was just a discount ssjg that was weaker than ssjg it would have made more sense.
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I want to impregnate Pan in front of her father!
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>>154851010
Stop right there criminal scum
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>>154850618
>In the anime I have no sense of what God Ki is or when people are using it because Beyond God base form.

Then you're just dumb, it's pretty obvious either way.
Manga's just slightly more needlessly complicated and makes somewhat less sense because it's Toyo jumping through fanfiction hoops again.
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>>154843775
>>154844121
this is fake and all but I like those filler ideas, worldbuilding and lore expansion is always welcomed

but yeah you can tell it's fake because it's not revealing any new names, new abilities and it's also not talking about about other prominent fighters like Smugpup, Kano, Elf Girl and Majin Tumblr
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>>154849485
This is the correct ranking.
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>>154850697
same with goten, trunks, and now gohan

literally just give it to every saiyan
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>>154851282
shut up fatass
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How did the animation of this show improve so much in the span of a year?
Early Super and current Super are like two completely different shows, animation-wise
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I'm glad SSRose Black will have that Blade Dance move he used against Goku in his Xenoverse 2 Moveset
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>>154851421
I kinda called he'd have this as his Ultimate Skill
Based Dimps
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Can someone please explain to me exactly how vegeta got God Ki in the first place?

And then, please explain how he went SSGSSJ before SSG???
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>>154851417

It's amazing what a proper budget can do...
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>>154851421
One of the coolest moves in DBS
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>>154851417
>Had literally months of mostly-talking filler leading up until this point
>Have had a couple of weeks of no broadcast at all since Zamasu arc
They've been working on the upcoming tournament episodes for months. It had better look better than normal.

Early super, and up to and including the Zamasu arc, had a big problem with pacing. The animators couldn't keep up with the workload, and it ended up being rushed.
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>>154851282
>they still have countries despite interplanet societies and space travel

no wonder the mortal level of U11 is below seven
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>>154851437
Anime
> Intense Angel-tier training, all while keeping your ki from "leaking"

Manga
> RoF was skipped. Probably the SSG Ritual off-screen(?)
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>>154851417
Not just animation, but the plot too. They went from objectively inferior retellings of two movies to a lacklustre U6 arc to a promising Zamasu arc full of missed opportunities, and finally this: a good old tournament arc that actually feels like Z again.

>>154851437
>Can someone please explain to me exactly how vegeta got God Ki in the first place?
Presumably training with Whis somehow unlocked it. Which makes me hope the Jabroni's of U7 will train with Whis so they become less shit.
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>>154851404
say that again to my team
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oh oho hoo ho oh oh oh!
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>>154851520
>a good old tournament arc that actually feels like Z again.
I think it's too early to say that though.
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>>154851558
Pride Poopers
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>>154851564
>I think it's too early to say that though.
Maybe it is, but judging by the preliminary matches the future looks bright.
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>>154851579
SON GOKU

YOU'RE UNDER ARREST FOR YOUR CRIMES AGAINST THE PEACE OF THE MULTIVERSE
SURRENDER NOW OR FACE DEATH
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Gohan's totally going to give into his inner nerd and give up his job and studies to become a member of the Pride Troopers once all of this is over isn't he?
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>mfw even if this arc ends up being absolutely terrible we're still gonna get a fuckload of new characters for future DB games
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>>154851609
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>>154851579
>>>/wsg/1601350

Goku in the middle
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>>154851520
>a good old tournament arc that actually feels like DB again

ftfy
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>>154842123
>This autistic answer

Why does /a/ love sperging out over shit that doesn't actually mean anything?

>B-b-but his true Saiyan nature!
>B-b-but it goes back to his roots!

Fuck off with this
Apes were gay & Universe 6 evolved their tails off.
SSJ4 is stupid and shouldn't even be called SSJ4, it's a different transformation entirely
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>>154851520
the only thing i can think of what ould be a problem is that with a battle royal it could be confusing as to who is who and who is fighting/helping whom
when i heard 8 universes are gonna participate i thought that would be perfect for a bracket tournament
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>>154851404
>>154851579
>>154851657
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What if fem-beerus is actually his wife or kid????
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>>154851513

So no explanation?
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>>154851715
Reminder for gayy lmao
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>>154844301
I hope this shit actually happens. I'm a sucker for "world building" episodes in anime. Especially in a series like Dragonball which typically gives zero fucks about consistency.
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>>154848045
No, I already know what will happen thanks to hack script writing for the TV show.
>Gohan, get angry, just like you did when you fought Cell, once your angry, nobody can stop you.

So I assume somebody is going to piss Gohan off to the limits, remember, Goku is already doing the "Dont worry, we have Gohan" shit.

Get Gohan to go to the time chamber with Piccolo or something for at least a day, and he should be ready.

Remember, the tournament will no longer be about how strong you are, but how technical you are, so Roshi, Piccolo and Tein are great picks, just knock the other out of the ring, Piccolo can grow giant and push the other asshole out if needed too.
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>>154851744
>btfo
>proceeds to fight with no problems against SSB and tanks a fully-powered kamehameha with the only damage being in his suit
>wasn't even fighting at full strenght

jej, U7cucks are truly desperate
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>>154851617
EoZ is still going to happen.
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>>154851799

>Gohan starts pissing and raging like an emo kid
>Halfway through his asspull power up he pops an aneurysm and just keels over out cold, vegeta nonchalantly tosses Gohan out of the ring with a sigh of disappointment

"THAT'S OUR GOHAN"

(laughtrack)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=epb5HCZNBZQ
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>>154851822

Goku literally just had a fight where he went SSB and used KK. He wasn't at full strength.

Not even close.
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>>154851857
I want this so fucking bad now.
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>>154851739
None.

Vegeta was SSG just because, and Toyo wants the fans to figure it out (if even that)
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>>154851822
>h-he wasn't fighting at full strength
>how..dare you...damage my custom justice spandex!!
u11fags can damage control all they want

Trash like your moralfag universe will be taken out this tournament
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>>154851857
It would be funny if that became a recurring joke.
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>>154851822
>>154851898
>U7cucks and U11cucks arguing

cute
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>>154851857

>>154851888
Trips shall get what it wants
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>>154851898
Just so people know, there is a SSJB2 now, and will be revealed during the tail end of the fight.

Gohan will go Blue.
Vegita will think he has a new level of power.
Tein and Roshi will stomp some ass.
Buu is the first to go because he falls asleep and rolls out of the ring.
17/18 job
Krillian stands his ground.
Goku looks like a SSJ3 with blue hair.

Jiran is the big bad guy "The only way to obtain justice, is to stop evil" and tries to kill O-Chan.
O-Chan wants to play too, and fuses.
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>>154845536
Isn't there a shot similar to this in the anime?
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>>154851929
U6's team is fucking foolproof

>two tanks, one literally gets no damage and the other one only needs to be less sensitive
>a Saiyan who can act as the ki spammer and protect the tanks from being pushed out of bounds
>a Legendary Super Saiyan, enough said
>Hit and his timeskip shenanigans
>Frost with his poison needle can stun other fighters enough to be thrown out by one of his team mates
>four additional fighters we still don't know anything about

Champa would have to be a major retard to fuck this up
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>>154852041
that is a recreation of that shot with Xicor and Fem-Shin
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>>154852057
weapons are banned
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>>154852093
Frost's poison needle is not a weapon, it's part of his body
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>>154851929
>no time
anyway u7 is ready to help it's brother universe dickheadman

>>154851980
>no trip on the supposed leakfag
>Jiran is the big bad guy "The only way to obtain justice, is to stop evil" and tries to kill O-Chan.
>O-Chan wants to play too, and fuses.
dafaq mirai zeno and zeno fuse to fight with goku against jiren?? these ""leaks"" are just the right amount of crazy
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Could Goku beat the flash?
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>>154841256
SSJ3 is shit, though. SSJ and SSJ2 at least defeated the main villain when they first showed up.

SSJ3 was just like "Yep, here's a new form." and then was just thrown into the trash, just like all of the other power-ups from the Buu Arc.
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>>154851980
>>154852139
>the two Zenos fuse

Oh so you're just copying this autistic video then https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xn87MO_tlDc
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>>154852178
>Toryiama known for making characters who fuse all the way back.
>Its even in video games he helps make.
>NOPE YOUR JUST RIPPING THIS OFF!
go away.

Why does nobody remember Masa and Mune.
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>>154852214
>Woosh I am the wind
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>>154852110
didn't he give this exact excuse and still get disqualified
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>>154852110
>>154852255
Frosts needle is a body part.
The poison however, was added by him.
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Anyone else loves this OST?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ucz0rO_xPYU
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>>154851980

>SSGSSJ2 + x10 KK
>god aura
>lightening aura
>SSJ aura
>KK aura
>all combined into one beautiful mess

How many children in japan will have seizures when this happens?
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>chi chi: hey goku how about we stop all this sparring and go make out passionately as husband and wife?
>goku: no way fag
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>>154852318
ChiChi had to rape Goku.
>Hey Goku, wanna see a hold that even you cant break out of.
>OH SHIT THIS IS THE MOST POWERFUL HOLD EVER CHICHI! YOUR THE STRONGEST EVER! Why do I feel so good and weak now?
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>>154852297
Norohito is the best composer DB has ever had, period
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-8VV9935SI

When the fuck is DBS OST Part 2 being released?
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>>154852318

>Goku is an established heavy sleeper.
>Chi Chi fucks sleeping goku to get pregnant (TWICE)
>goku still has no clue
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>>154852302
So that is the Grand Priest's Keikaku
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>>154852318
>this was in Toriyama's outline
>the old man gag manga artist thinks this is funny
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>>154852423
I laughed, therefore it's funny.

t. Professor of Comedy
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other than bulma's as an 10 year kid, has goku ever even seen a vagina?
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>>154852423
does dragonball need a new story writer?
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>>154852441
Toriyama's '''''''humor''''''' is literally LMAO POOP JOKE XD LMAO PANTIES XD
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>>154852468
NEVER
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>>154852297
pretty good but I prefer this as the god theme https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kcc4A1IAeps

also whatever music played during Vegeta's comeback against Black, Zeno and Zeno playing planet pinball and the Grand Priest starting to work on the arena
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>>154851421
prove that the anime is more canon
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>>154852573
>prove
So you admit it's not, cool.
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>>154852476
I am a Professor, I think I would recognize comedy when I see it.
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>>154852110
Then why would he be banned from the tournament for "cheating"?
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Why is Limit Break x Survivor objectively the best OP of DB and the best OP so far of 2017?
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>>154852662
for using poison see >>154852274
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>>154851560
why is he impressed by mortals fighting if he's infinitely more powerful?
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>>154852535
>also whatever music played during Vegeta's comeback against Black, Zeno and Zeno playing planet pinball and the Grand Priest starting to work on the arena

You mean this one?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DvsCQotq2yA
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>>154852704
Then the "poison" needle isn't so effective, is it?

Regardless,
Frost can keep up with a SSJ Goku post-Whis training & Hyperbolic

Shouldn't be underestimated in any sense of the word,
He's still Frieza
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>>154843032
>>154844293
Canonity isn't relevant anymore.
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>>154852724
based, thanks anon
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>>154852706
He probably doesn't "fight"
If GoD's can't fight for the fact that they'd destroy the universe, couldn't see Zeno partaking.

He was taken by surprise with the first tournament, & Future Zeno has never seen a tournament.

This is probably the first he's seen mortals fight.
Like a shut in child, he's just excited
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>154852747
Retard
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>>154852724
I am God
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>>154852768
It's the struggle thats interesting to see. Zeno probably just waves his arm and anyone opposing him is gone.
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>>154852724
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>>154852747
GT still wasn't made with Toriyama's consent/help, so its nowhere canon until he himself acknowledges it like Kubo does to some Bleach novels.
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Norohito > Falcouner > whoever composed the first half of pre-Buu Kai >>>>>> OG soundtrack

>the original Japanese OST failed to convey the epicness of the SSJ3 transformation scene like the American OST did and so Norohito decided to fix that by giving us this theme
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pKAns_OlHXE
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>>154849396
Goku
Vejobber
Buu
Jobhan
Piccolo
17
18
Tiencuckhan
Krillin
Roshi
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>>154853209

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kNUXSRk8YaY
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>>154852702
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KUBnnrvTC2o
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XR46WbmYFyQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8pPLe-eQQrQ
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>>154851226
Its gonna be a lot of fillers, like 3 each 2 episodes
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Manga makes more sense regarding powerlevels but at the expense of pretty much everything that makes Dragon ball, dragon ball.

I think the main issue with the manga is that it has to run behind the anime. Frankly they should take their time with the manga, doesnt matter if it ends 2 years later than the anime. Right now the manga reads like a wikipedia summary, that only focus on the most important fights.

Most of the support cast havent said a single word in the manga. There are no character moments other than 2 pages of Mario Kart in a 600 pages manga.

Frankly when someone says "but the manga makes more sense regarding fights/power levels" they are pretty much admitting the manga has nothing to show other than powerlevels.

Toyotaro is a fanfiction autistic writer and it shows. He doesnt understand the comedy, the rhytm, the characters of DB. He just grab the toys and make them fight and make sure the powerlevels "make sense".

If Pedros knew how to read they would actually love the manga. Since Toyotaro is pretty much a Japanese Pedro.

The manga at most is an accesory to the anime. Which is also shit, but for other reasons.
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>>154851851
>Vegeta already knows about Uub
>In EoZ the gang never met after the Majin but events
>Giving a fuck about some nigger with shit power level after fighting Gods and other universes.
That shit is already retconned and I'm glad for it.
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>>154841192
>Childhood is complaining about Goku being the only character that matters and prefering a support character over him
>Adulthood is realizing that Goku is the best DB character and the other guys dont matter.
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>>154843775
>Magetta starts the tournament in the middle of the arena around a lot of weak fighters, one of them calls him something bad and his entire appearances thru the saga is going go be him walking towards the edge of the arena trying to quit but he is too slow and the arena is too big

I bet U6 wins because of this.
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>>154853645
Reminder that puppies save the Earth and universe.
Majin Buu would've continued being a destructive manchild monster if he had not befriended a puppy.
>>
If Krillin defeats Basil, what tier does that put him in?
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>>154853769
Above Goyhan
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>>154853797
>meme answer
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>>154847853
Looks like a edit
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>>154853843
>salt
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>>154853763
>everyone freaking out and discussing ways to kill buu
>mr satan simply talks to and befriends him to stop him from killing
Why must people always shoot first, ask questions later?
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>>154842795

k
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So how does Gohan alone help increase the mortal level? Is he really that classy? Is he that Pure?
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>>154854113
They never said he was a big boost to the mortal level.

He is just a regular guy with a job and a regular family. He raises the mortal level as any other worker with studies.

Bulma is probably the biggest boost to mortal level in the planet. Should be SSG tier regarding mortal level
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>>154849507
Toei magic
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>>154854284
>time travel that goes against cosmic god laws
>raises mortal level
Bet stupid ningen actually believe this
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Reminder that Goku's name is "Gokou"
Beerus is "Beers"
Buu is "Boo"
Mr. Satan real name is "Mark"
17 and 18 names are "Lapis" and "Lazuli"
and nobody knows Turtle Hermit's name, same about his sister
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>>154854363
late again shesheshesheshe
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>>154854334
Not to mention the dragon radar she invented. Which doesn't allow the dragon balls the necessary time to rest between wishes.
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>>154854413
truly a menace to the universe.
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>>154841192
>ningen
>perfect
????
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>>154854363
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>>154851181
>lying in the internet

Yeah no problem with Goku needing to use SS (which is SSG tier since BoG) to fight Frost (who never trained at all) but this asshole being Piccolo just Piccolo tier, or SS Cabba being apparently stronger than SSG Goku in BoG.
Face it, anime power levels are pure and absolute bullshit.
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>>154853601
>but at the expense of pretty much everything that makes Dragon ball, dragon ball.
>Right now the manga reads like a wikipedia summary, that only focus on the most important fights.
This.
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>>154854456
Vegeta did the right thing by knocking her up, therefore tying her down to motherhood.
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tfw hi
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>>154854608
do you think he fucked her while being a super saiyan to see if it produces stronger children
worked with trunks and goten
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Can Krillin beat any of the HST?
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>>154854930
>HST
?
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>>154853380
Anime is the best thanks to his memes.

You don't have to take it seriously, it's fun...etc

The manga is still the most faithful and coherent to DB but anime still the most entertaining.
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>>154850191
You must realize how SSB actually was supposed to work.

1º Isn't a enormous boost at all. Toriyama scale from BoG was still a thing in RoF since Whis said Goku and Vegeta fighting together would be a strong enough combo to fight Beerus even if they can't do it separately. If SSG Goku was a 6 and Beerus was 10, then SSB was supposed to be not even twice stronger than SSG, it was just the "serious" mode, not so different from their base form (which already was SSG tier)

2º Is another god form but isn't as slim and balanced as SSG, it's unbalanced, decompensated.

3º SSB and SSG are even more different since in DBS Toriyama added an stamina problem (for both versions, because Goku said the problem exist in both versions of his battle with Hit).

SSG (or Beyond God in the movies) is the perfect "Super Saiyan God" form, SSB is just a burst mode, Goku and Vegeta burning their god power to the limit with a blue flare, that's why they become bulky again, the form consume their stamina and isn't even that strong compared to the regular SSG, because is just the a burst mode forcing their god power via SS, that's why Toyotaro handle both forms as he's doing, SSG is the balanced and efficent one and SSB the strongest one when you want force you.
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>>154850985
Agreed
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>>154843775
Fuck off larper
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>>154854918
I don't think he had unlocked SSJ yet when Trunks was conceived.
>>
>manga makes more sense
>vegeta gets the Blue form before the red base form
>he never did the ritual

ok
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>>154855101
>he never did the ritual
Nice headcanon
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>>154855002
base goku = eevee
ssj = jolteon
god = flareon
ssj blue - vaporeon
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>>154855160
>he did the ritual
Nice offpanel, never referenced scene.

MANGA MAKES MORE SENSE™
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>>154855002
The whole plot of RoF was Golden Frieza had stamina problems but SSB did not.
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>>154841192
Why did Super stop using the basic DBZ sound effects, when the Frieza, and God movies still used them?
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>>154855366
lt was basically Namek all over again. FP 100% Freeza had stamina problems while SSJ1 did not.
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>>154855366
So much fucking this. It was set since day one that Blue didnt have stamina problems.

Now toyble wants to retcon everything and creates more issues the more he retcons
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>>154855523
Yep. That's what they were going for.
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>>154855555
>>154855589
This is one of the best things about RoF, along with SSB and the laser scene in the movie
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>>154855523
Goku was stronger since the beginning in the freeza ssj fight even before the stamina issues.
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Late arrival, what did i miss. Anyone beating up the smugpup kid
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>>154855084
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>>154855743
Yeah, but when Freeza started to decline, that's when Goku wanted to stop. Same thing in RoF.
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>>154855848
I stand corrected.
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>>154855743
You could only infer that because the powerlevels were given to us in numbers after the fact.

Just by looking at the fight alone it was plain as day to see they were evenly matched up until frieza's energy ran out.
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>>154855905
What could have been...
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>>154855366
>>154855553
That's wrong, though. Every SS (except SSG) have stamina problems (SS3 more than SS2, SS2 more than SS, etc), SSB is more durable than Golden Freeza but not having stamina problems at all has never been a thing.

Also blame Toriyama for write an arc in which Goku and Vegeta wants to reserve their Blue form until (almost) the end because stamina drain, that's not Toyotaro invention. Or blame Toei for ignore it so Goku and Vegeta just spam SSB as if was regular SS after do the opposite in Champa tournament.
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>>154854024
>Buu emerges
>He acts completely harmless and playful
>Gohan: Maybe we're not all going to di...
>Shit Shin: WE'RE ALL GOING TO DIE!!!
>Dabura: lel what a retard :^)
>Babidi: KILL THEM ALL!!!
>Buu starts attacking everyone

If you treat the bubblegum boi like a monster, that's what the bubblegum boi becomes. Seal him up and try again in another 5 million years.
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>>154856127
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>>154856127
>>Shit Shin
Shin is not shit
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>>154856127
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>>154855303
>never referenced scene.
Because it's obvious
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>>154854967
Holy shounen trinity aka Naruto Bleach One-Piece
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>>154855101
>>154855160
>>154855303
>>154856328
I'm pretty sure Vegeta got SSB by training and that this applies to anime AND manga.

i.e. Toeishills and Toyospics are arguing over nothing yet again.
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>>154855101
>vegeta gets the Blue form before the red base form
>source my ass
>>
>>154856408
bleach no due to that hax fucking shit fest that is the Quincy Blood War arc what a train wreck that arc was i mean shit Kubo might be smoking some good kush
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Why is Trunks such best Saiyan alive?
>practical and down to Earth, but not a pussy like Gohan
>intelligent, but not an edgelord like Vegeta
>genuinely a good person, but not a retard like Goku
>not an irrelevant carbon copy like Goten
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could they solo everybody in dragon ball?
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>>154856413
>I'm pretty sure Vegeta got SSB by training
Of course he did, that's obvious. I don't know why people still talking about this when it was the same for fucking RoF.

Old continuity - Vegeta have SSG power so he can go SSGSS as well. How he have the power? Well he trained with Whis just think about it because that's the whole excuse we have.

New continuity - Vegeta have SSG form so he can go SSGSS as well. How he have the power? Well he trained with Whis just think about it because that's the whole excuse we have.
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>>154856569
>happy Torankusu by Toei
DISGUSTING
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>>154854413
Wtf,
I thought they turned to stone until you can use them again in a year
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>>154856569
>>154856652
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>>154856569
>tfw too strong to enter the tournament of power
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>>154856413
>I'm pretty sure Vegeta got SSB by training and that this applies to anime AND manga.
Wrong, that's anime only.
>>
>>154856413
Goku clearly said that kind of power was impossible to get through training. He said not in hundred years he could have achieved that. And I trust Goku there.

If Whis knew another way of awakening the saiyan god power then why they called the dragon and asked how to do it?

Because Whis didnt know another way. Thats way
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>Toei can't properly draw the happy Torankusu
>Toyotaro can

And that's why manga is superior, who cares about other shit? Best boy needs best look
>>
>>154856657
They do. But thanks to the radar it only takes them like a day to find all 7. When before it would take God knows how many years to find them scattered around the Earth.
>>
>>154855101
>>154855160
>headcanon

Wtf
Goku literally says that word for word during the Frieza fight
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>asspull after asspull
>still fail
Top kek
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>>154856764
>Goku clearly said that kind of power was impossible to get through training
And Goku knows no shit about how the power of gods works.
>>
>>154856764
Because Beerus wanted to fight a "Super Saiyan God" that day.
Whis never heard of it
Whis sees Goku go God, and sees he just has God Ki
Whis then tells Vegeta he'll train him to go God under the condition he be the next God of Destruction

I wish /a/ wasn't as dumb as YouTube comments
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>>154856764
>Goku clearly said
Stopped reading there.
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>>154856764
>And I trust Goku there

Do you realize how retarded you sound?
>>
>>154856821
>implying you couldn't fail even if you had even more asspulls then him
>>
>>154856778
This is stupid.
This is also why GT is stupid.

If the Dragon Balls have a literal time limit for 1 Year before you can use them again, how can you "overuse" the Dragon Balls? Why not just make the time limit longer?
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>>154856853
I wish stupid people weren't allowed on the internet
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>>154857079
>anime
>irony the post
>>
>>154856853
>actually deleting comments in shame

It's okay anon,
This is an anonymous image board
You can be wrong in peace
>>
>>154856569
because every series needs marysue :^)
>>
>>154857101
>hurr durr anime only

Meanwhile your "theory" is stated...
No where
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>>154856853
the mod better have done this or you are pathetic
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>>154850618
I like it, but I don't really know why Vegeta has it now.
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>>154856853
>deleted
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>>154857170
>still not knowing the anime and manga have different continuities
wew lad
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>>154857101
>trying this hard
>after literally deleting comments because you're ashamed of being wrong even when no one knows who you are

Neo /a/ sucks
>>
>>154857210
>he's actually still trying

At this point I wish you were a tripfag so I can know who the most pathetic 4Chan user is
>>
>>154857202
Because he's the Prince of all Saiyans and no low class warrior is going to surpass him.
>>
what what was deleted? show me i missed it
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>>154856770
Trunks is hot
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>>154857101
>>154856853
>>154857210

This can't be real,
This person can't actually exist
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>>154857271
>no argument
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>>154857271
>4Chan
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>>154856853
>he deleted it
shitposters are losing their edge it seems
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>>154857324
>/a/
>Not on 4Chan.org

Or are you one of those spergs that believes in "communities"?
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>>154856764
Goku is a fucking retard though.
>>
>tfw missed the deleted the deleted comment
it's not fair show me please what did the anon said
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>>154856853
>omg show me!

Boy you deleted that quick didn't you
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>>154857390
Leave our /A/ alone faggit!
>>
>>154857446
omg show me!
That was what the deleted post said
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>>154857501
please screen cap the deleted comment and post it
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>>154856853
>being ******THIS****** autistic
WEW

LAD
A
D
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>>154847208
You forgot the part where he went GREAT APE SSJGSSJ 3
>>
Where is the new thread?
>>
>>154857390
>4Chan
>C
You need to go back to wherever it is you came from.
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>>154856853
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>>154856058
No. Stamina issues were only ever relevant with SS3.
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>>154857515

Not that anon, but here you go.
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>>154857446
It was just Anon 1 acting smug and Anon 2 putting him in his place

It's only funny because he actually deleted the comments
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New Thread

>>154857605
>>154857605
>>154857605
>>154857605
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>>154857515
Lazy for screencap, watch the archive instead
http://desuarchive.org/a/thread/154841192/#154856853
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>>154854024
Reminder that they did the same thing with 17 and 18 with Trunks and his autistic screeching.
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>>154857569
I've been on 4Chan for 7 years now though.
4Chan
4Chan
4Chan

Hope your autistic brain melts over capital letters
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>>154853209
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>>154855252
Kys furfag.
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>>154843775
>>The universes that are not participating barelly have fighters stronger than the androids

Top kek. So half of Universe 7 (Piccolo, Gohan, Buu, Goku, Vegeta) could sweep every universe except 2, 6, and 11? Why aren't these ones safe?
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>>154857600
But you're wrong, faggot.
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