>no more loli until the tournament arrives
currentlythe best thing about U10
you can all fight over your waifus i have my precious right here
I don't know, I think he'd have benefited from Goku's skintone, though.
Leave multiverse tournament to me
Helles body is top tier.
Reminder that Goku's name is "Gokou"
Beerus is "Beers"
Buu is "Boo"
Mr. Satan real name is "Mark"
17 and 18 names are "Lapis" and "Lazuli"
and nobody knows Turtle Hermit's name, same about his sister
The next Dragon Ball Super arc is going to be great
man I love do this shit
Might wanna remember that yourself
I don't get it. If according to the anime, SSG is in Goku's and Vegeta's base forms, then what's the difference between normal SSJ and SSB other than god ki
I mean the show says SSG is in base form but in SSG Goku and Beerus almost destroyed the universe with 3 punches but that hasn't happened since, even in SSB. In fact, going just by that, SSB has been shown to just be weaker than SSG
Anyway, anyone think it's time for Super to have its first movie? By that, I mean like how Dragon Ball and Dragon Ball Z had their movies (though two of Z's are the original stories Super re-told). What would it even be about?
This is Bra, she was just born. Say something nice to her.
Reminder Zamasu was a genocidal nut job from day one.
It's either inconsistent writing or the anime fight with Beerus had non-canon filler in it
>but in SSG Goku and Beerus almost destroyed the universe with 3 punches but that hasn't happened since, even in SSB. In fact, going just by that, SSB has been shown to just be weaker than SSG
This, you'd think SSB Kaiokenx10 would be multi universe level but apparently not.
Will Frieza be revived to fight in the Universal tourney?
They need 10. They need Golden Frieza-sama to have enough strong warriors.
Base Goku and Vegeta have the power of super saiyan gods in their base forms, but not god ki.
Each transformation has a different multiplier. It would be unecessary to turn SSB against an enemy like Frost cause it would be overkill.
Also there haven't been any universe destroying punches since that fight because Goku mastered the power of SSJ. The reason there were reality shockwaves was because Goku wasn't equalizing Beerus' punches.
Base form is "beyond god form", exactly like SSG but is permanent, so their SS forms are SSGSS forms (form which isn't too much stronger than regular SSG/beyond god).
They work exactly like they did in the original manga but they can go SSG at will (instead have only SSG's power), so SSGSS as well (still not too much stronger than regular SSG)
Their SS, SS2 and SS3 forms are simply stronger now (SS is already SSG tier) and SSGSS is even stronger.
>Still no Gowasu gets a new apprentice filler
Why? I just want to see some qt shota Kaioshin having to bring him tea, but preparing it with milk and honey instead of that green tea stuff. Gowasu deserves better.
And you read it without putting too much thought into it
That scene is the classic ''student has doubts and questions his master'' scene, it's been done like a thousand times already
That was before Zamasu went radical, Gowasu should be blamed for not being a good enough teacher
They have to activate the God ki. It's not a permanent buff. In the previous episodes Goku has only been using God ki in SSB which is why all the gods only reacted once he transformed
>The reason there were reality shockwaves was because Goku wasn't equalizing Beerus' punches.
Oh yeah, I completely forgot about this
The BoG arc is completely underrated btw, it's a solid 7/10
>That scene is the classic ''student has doubts and questions his master'' scene
Nope, even afterwards when Gowasu states that destroying is the job of the GoD, Zamasu gets all butthurt. Hell the tea that's meant to be a mirror of his heart starts to go to shit once he begins thinking about Ningen.
>That was before Zamasu went radical,
Yes, because asking someone why don't we commit genocide? Isn't radical at all.
>Gowasu should be blamed for not being a good enough teacher
That too, but also Zamasu is a nut job.
I bet Krillin is the only human that goes to the tournament. Probably 18, maybe even 17 he is alive somewhere out there. Buu, Vegeta, Gohan, Goku, Trunks and Goten will probably be in it. They can Gotenks up because its a battle royal. Picollo.
id say 100% for sure.
9 members for sure going. Who is number 10? 17? Gold Frieza ressurected for 1 battle to redeem himself and escape the Hell of Flowery Fields
I'm serious. All the characters are not only shorter (or in Krillin's case, taller) than they look, but lighter too. Last time I checked Goku is about 5'9 and 137 pounds, making him taller than but lighter than Bruce Lee.
Literally the best thing to come out of this arc coming through.
Perfect. Buu saga might not be as relishing but ok
Fuck off, Toppo. Your Pride Troopers are no match for D I V I N E.
The Kai dub is shit
>But it's more accurate to the manga!
>But it has the original soundtrack!
3/4 of the original cast sound like they just don't give a fuck anymore, and most of the new VA's sound like shit. They could read the manga word for word, it doesn't matter if the voice acting is shit.
No one, at this point, is arguing that B A S E D is from any other universe aside U6. There are no other Saiyans in any other universe that isn't U7 and U6.
Well what did you expect when they had the VAs do the entire anime over again?
Why does Lorax keep blaming Goku for putting the multi verse in danger when it was revealed that Zeno was already planning to destroy all the lesser universes and that Goku's tournament will actually save one of the lesser universes?
So what do you think of Vegeta's big mooscles?
>tfw S T R O N G will never step on you like the inferior scum you are
Goku's rage against black was the best part in the Anime.
Not having this in the manga is really shit.
Toyotaro has done so many great things in the manga but goku not fighting black is truly dumb.
3 fight with vegeta.
Not even one with goku.
Manga only switchs between how Goku and Vegeta are in RoF and how they were in the old canon to mantain what Toriyama wanted, (SSG power and SSB, but still usable SS/2/3), anime only maintain SSB and make the other forms stronger (which is extra confusing because you will never know how strong they are anymore)
I'm rewatching the arc right now, first I was so pissed of about the inconsistencies that I only have bad memory of it.
But this aside, rewatching this arc is so much great when you rush it.
Well that wasn't very hard
>Goku devoted his life to protect others
>You on the other hand have spent your life in pursuit of your own selfish desires. When you die you will not receive the same reward
That's why I enjoy both version.
They're not the same, not one is better than the other one, they've have their pro and con.
Those who disliked the arc in the anime should give a second try like this anon did >>154824261
And i'm sure that those who dislike the manga will enjoy what he has to offer when the arc will be finished and then rereaded.
>tfw still love this form
Cabba is very lucky in having such a cute sister.
I had my theory that she turns into LSSJ form because she suffered a lot of bullying(Trunks unlocked Ikari because Black and Zamasu were bullying him).
A string of super-zoomed in shots so they don't have to actually show movement or anything more complex than a jump or a grab, but even those have abrupt cuts halfway through as the characters teleport into a new convenient position. Not exactly a choreography, as the motions are hardly linked at all.
Because the writers didn't actually think of that ahead of time, and when they found out everyone thinks Goku is the bad guy here they did a bullshit plot change to make it to where Goku is somehow good.
Because he didn't lose on purpose against Bergamo when he was given the opportunity.
Literally, just feed the wolf all your energy then let him knock you out. It would have saved every universe instead of just one.
''choreography'' truly is the new buzzword people came up with to attack the show since the animation is fine-to-good now
webm related looks cool, what more do you want?
>Goku's rage against black was the best part in the Anime.
Goku backhanding Zamasu was great, but the actual fight with Black was meh.
If 4chan had been around when Dragon Ball was still be published as a weekly serial in Shonen Jump, does /a/ think there would still be manga vs anime wars?
Also, what would you personally side with and why? Excluding filler, when it came to the anime actually doing canon material from the manga, they would extend on it and actually make it better than it was in the manga.
For example, Goku's transformation into SS. In the manga, Goku literally snaps after Krillin is murdered, he snaps and turns into SS in the same page without any dramatic scenery event occurring as opposed to the anime where it remains an iconic moment to this day.
They don't care about him or Universe 7 so Goku has no reason to care either. They're pathetic because they go after Goku instead of the Grand Priest and Zeno even though Goku gave them a fighting chance.
Oh hey webm-kun, didn't you say TOEI CAN'T KEEP WITH THIS SCHEDULE IT'S GONNA LOOK LIKE ASS?
Do you feel BTFO enough after the Goku vs Toppo fight or are you gonna be like ''i-it looks bad!!!'' instead of conceding like an adult?
Just watch the whole thing then, it gets more intense https://youtu.be/VCqIDqoehMk
>they go after Goku instead of the Grand Priest and Zeno
The story made it pretty fucking clear Zeno is untouchable and GP is above the angels who themselves are above the GoDs.
Nobody is trying to overthrow the current status quo because it's impossible. They just want to live.
Goku - www.4chan.org
Oolong - /tv/
Goten - /soc/
Roshi - /s/
Trunks - /hm/
Gohan - /sci/
Bra - /mlp/
Krillin - /m/
Chichi - /fa/
Dende - /an/
Mr.Buu - /co/
Mr.Satan - /ck/
Vegetable - /fit/
Piccolo - /c/
Pan - /s4s/
Ox King - /biz/
Marron - /x/
Yamacha - /adv/
>They just want to live
And Goku gave them a chance. He couldn't job against Bergamo because Zeno already knows about SSBKK and Zeno was going to destroy every universe if Goku held back
>Why should Goku car about at the very least trillions of innocent lives?
I know Goku isn't supposed to be a goodie-two-shoes, but he was at the very least the kind of guy who wanted to take fights away from cities and called Dr. Gero a monster for blowing up a city that was "in the way". Except that was just a fucking city, 10 million or so people at best. What Goku is doing here is far worse and he doesn't even express the slightest bit of regret or remorse, and doesn't even try to deflect accusations of being evil.
Oh boy what a great fight.
not even memeing here, this is actual tracing
hahahah saving this, thanks anon.>>154822390
dumping some shit I drew a while ago
>toeishills ACTUALLY doesn't know what "tracing" means at all
>toeishills don't remember DB
>easily ass blasted if something doesn't go his way like a child
>y-y-you're just an appertizer
>destroys random buildings in a fit of rage
The biggest sin Toyotaro did to Black was the complete lack of the ki sword
The ki sword is Black's signature move, while it's not a new concept he did it the best and it was so good it's pretty much his trademark
In the manga Black/Zamasu uses the ki sword like twice
>Except he would regain his calm composure immediately afterwards.
Pay attention, kid.
Oh hey I like these, how did I miss these in the previous threads?
The manga is such an enigma compared to the anime it's so laughable. No one reviews it, rarely anyone gives it praise, and it's made by some shit fan fiction-tier artist/author. No, it's not "more canon" because Toriyama approves of it. It isn't written by him, nor is it drawn by him. Same goes for the anime, but at least that's more enjoyable than the terribly handled story-telling in the manga. The manga will never become anything outside of V-Jump and the volumes issued. When someone says "Dragon Ball Super," first thing that'll come to their minds is the anime, not the promotional, garbage manga. Toyble's involvement with this series was a huge mistake. He's bringing in material from his AF doujins, and even based one of the new God of Destruction from a GT antagonist. How bad is that? Only Toyble could come up with something like it. Toriyama doesn't care about Toyble, he's simply glad that he doesn't have to draw Dragon Ball anymore himself.
I've never posted these before
>toeishills are too used to see shit being spamed the anime
Garlick Gun is used once, Final Flash once, Big Bang Attack (apparently) twice, Makankosappo once, etc.
Cry me a river.
They don't really expect much from DBS manga though.
It's just that they needed to do a manga version because DB can't be DB without a manga version as DB can't be DB without an anime.
Nowadays we have fairer autism fights. Alas still autism.
Either Toyochads/Mangachads or Toeichads will have to be the bigger and humbler side and bring this faggotry to an end
>Vegeta trains in Dr. Briefs' time room
>uses Legendary Super Saiyan for the first time next chapter
>beats the shit out of Xicor by rapidly switching between SS3, SS4, and LSS without Xicor noticing
>Vegeta trains in the Hyperbolic Time Chamber
>uses Super Saiyan God for the first time next chapter
>beats the shit out of Black by rapidly switching between SSG and SSB without Black noticing
>draws Black in the same pose, and uses almost the same exact dialog as Xicor after getting his ass kicked by Vegeta
>b-b-but Toriyama did something similar with the Kaio-ken in the Namek Saga, so your argument is invalid. AF meme BTFO!
>pointing out that Toyo blatantly recycled shit from his unfinished AF comic makes you a toieshill
Did you not read the dialog? It's almost word for word
lel, Merged Zamasu's birth is so shit in the manga
>''shit, these mortals almost sealed me''
>''hmmm, let's not take any risks, enough joking around...'' with the smuggest face ever
>lots of tension during the scene, great music, cool effects, you can tell shit is about to go down
>''My form is justice. My form is the world. Revere me. Praise me. This noble and beautiful... immortal and most powerful god... Zamasu!''
>perfect voice-acting, sounds like Zamasu is having an orgasm
>''SHIT OTHER ME WHY IS EVERYTHING GOING TO SHIT EVEN THOUGH I'M IMMORTAL AND I COULD JUST HEAL YOU GIVING YOU ANOTHER ZENKAI BOOST''
>''CALM DOWN OTHER ME, WE HAVE OUR LAST RESORT''
>fusion just kind of happens
>''Hello, I'm the true god of all universes.. Zamasu!''
the ki sword is literally what makes Black stand out, it's not just a simple technique like those you listed, it's literally part of his basic moveset
it makes him feel unique and not just a Goku clone like manga Black
How could Manga Black and Zamasu even compare?
>Merged Zamasu's birth is so shit in the manga
Meh the fact that Goku tried to stop it made it way better in the manga imo
No probs, you're a diamond in the rough right now in this storm of shitposting
So... how strong was Goku compared to Black in the manga, anyways?
Where Zamasu and Black even THAT much stronger than Goku and Vegeta? Where's the threat in that? Goku never fought Black in the manga so we'll never know now.
>recycling is bad because the original content is a meme, not because the reycled content is bad
why fight at all when the good guys are gonna win somehow at the end?
There is no damage control, only cold hard facts that I'm laying onto you. Potara fusion doesn't change just cause you want it too, it's just earring, mix and poof. That's it man.
Black is way stronger than Goku, and Zamasu was stated to be weaker than Trunks.
Not really, it reflects on Goku's character better.
>Why trying when you know that your enemies can teleport right away?
At least trying is better than just standing there.
>Choreography is the art or practice of designing sequences of movements of physical bodies (or their depictions) in which motion, form, or both are specified. Choreography may also refer to the design itself.
Not everything you dislike is a "meme" or "autistic", pedro
I think anime Black's smugness is mostly the result of the VA. As much as I dislike having an old granny do Goku's voice, her Goku Black was impeccable. It's indeed a darker version of Goku's voice, but not an overbearing 'HURRDURR I'M EBIL'. That voice perfectly lends itself to smugness.
>Where Zamasu and Black even THAT much stronger than Goku and Vegeta? Where's the threat in that? Goku never fought Black in the manga so we'll never know now.
Black and Zamasu being stronger than Goku and Vegeta at first in the anime was beyond retarded.
They can just go somewhere else and use potala because they can teleport but they do it in front of goku and vegeta because they're that pretentious.
Still useless in the manga.
I'm not looking to have a anime vs. mange arguement, but I do love that the manga fixed some of my personal problems with the anime's representation of this arc, being Goku and Vegeta's plan and Goku being a pure retard. Vegeta using skill and SSG form to actually beat Black was way better than Black and Zamatsu winning then throwing it all away to become fused and lose. Goku grabbing the wrong label is better than him forgetting something important a SECOND time.
>animation isn't animation because I don't like it
I don't know who's the delusional one here
>Black and Zamasu being stronger than Goku and Vegeta at first in the anime was beyond retarded.
It was THREATENING, anon.
It made the anime enjoyable. In the manga it's fucking boring and Goku and Vegeta were literally throwing out the trash.
>Vegeta trains and fights switching between a lot of different forms with different characteristics
>Vegeta trains and fights doing exactly what Goku did in the original manga but transforming instead powering up normaly
>also implying if it was the same that means is bad
Yep, you're a delusional and desperate toeishill.
More fights like this webm
>it literally became a thing only two weeks ago
Stop being dumb, fight choreography is one of the main reasons why Dragon Ball got so popular.
>TOYOPEDROS THINK THAT IS ACTUALLY A GOOD PIECE OF DIALOGUE
Black and Zamasu being stronger and better was fine when they first went to the future, but they literally go back a second time with no plan other than, lets not lose and still get their asses handed to them. Shame is they do it 3 times!
>More fights like this webm
Aside from the obvious >Naruto, that is such a small fucking non-issue and it's not surprising I see it being brought up only here
The fights look good now, Goku vs Toppo was highly enjoyable, fucking deal with it nerd
>Did you not read the dialog?
Yeah I read that when some character in AF discovered a switch between forms he said "you're switching between forms" and when other character in DBS discovered a switch between forms he said "you're switching between forms". Your argument?
>Don't even try to destroy the rings
The fuck are you saying?
Because Beerus said that it wasn't the same for gods.
Black then said that he was protected thanks to his ring.
>the quality of fighting in a shonen series is a non-issue
>Naruto ended November 2014
Because Vegetto, that's why. We could have gotten a new design, but no. Toei wanted to be lazy, and apparently Toyotaro does too.
So what if Bergamo actually had a bullshit ability like Frost or Hit?
Goku took the bait and charged him in base form like a complete retard, after having seen Lavender get a draw against a much stronger opponent by landing a single breath just two minutes ago.
Frost with no killing rule and multiverses on the line would've easily killed Goku and get everyone erased, since not using ssb would count as throwing the match.
>main villains being strong is retarded
Toyocucks logic. This is why manga will never have good fights. Every antagonist made weak as fuck and can't put up a fight even against SSB.
>This arc CONFIRMED Champa as a better GoD than Beerus
How will Beerusfags ever recover?
>B-But U7 is stronger!!!
Just wait until Hit gets his 9 brothers. Spoiler: Hit is the youngest and weakest of his family.
becase this shit about muh fight choreography is literally the new buzzword to attack Super since the animation itself can't be attacked anymore
I'm sorry but I just find it fucking laughable and pathetic
>if the fights don't have crystal clear sequence of movements (something that was fucking rare in DBZ anyway, ''THEY ARE SO FAST WE CAN'T FOLLOW THEM WITH OUR EYES'') it's a poor quality fight
I think I'm done with this dumb argument, all you guys do is showing how trash this fanbase generally is since it always needs something to whine about like babies
it's because Toyotaro is a huge Gokufag and just can't deal with drawing characters stronger than his precious Goku
Toppo and Jiren will be absolute jobbers in the manga, just you wait
>villains being strong is retarded by default
Said no one. Are you too used to Toei's inconsistent powerhouses, anon?
>this is why manga will never have good fights
Even your toeishill heart knows that even Goku vs Frost is better than any fight in the anime besides Vegetto vs Zamasu
>can't put up a fight even against SSB
Black says hi.
>Black and Zamasu being stronger than Goku and Vegeta
Ehh my problem with Anime Black is every time he was beginning to lose he would suddenly just get stronger.
>Goku gets a rage boost because Black told him how he killed Chi Chi and Goten.
Black suddenly gets another powerup rekts Goku
>Vegeta trains in the RoTaS
Black suddenly gets another powerup which is able to subdue Goku and Vegeta at the same time and this was right after Vegeta just got done saying Black isn't able to bring out the full potential of Goku's Saiyan body.
Animefags keep complaining about how Manga Black isn't smug enough, that's because he isn't a constant asspull machine. I'd be smug as well if I got an asspull power up every time I was about to lose. Seriously Anime Black comes across as an overpowered fan fic character.
>Same in the manga
Are you literally retarded or something?
>Goku and Vegeta clearly see what is happening but they don't care
>Goku pays attention so he try to destroy the earrings
>b-but it was useless
So according to you Goku could killed the humans who still alive after Zamasu's body destruction because he killed them after?
>at some point in a few weeks we will see beerus watch his own brother get erased in front of him
Also fembroly gets erased too
Will these actually be sad moments? Like a part where one fighter drags another off the stage. For example, Goku beats Hit who is U6s last man standing, then he puts Hit around his shoulder and walks him to the edge whilst Hit probably gives Goku a talk saying go fuck up Jiren and his squad for me
All whilst beerus and champa watch, knowing one is gonna be deleted
Then again this is just something I thought of and DBS most likely wouldn't have moments like that during this arc
I'am glad this move was Anime only. So retarded and looked bad
Originally the leg wraps and tassels were going to be deep red, but the more I looked at it the more it looked like Goyhan in his non jobbing days. The purple cloak was generally hard to work with to find a working color scheme and I didn't want him to look too much like Zarbon either.
Because Toei can't write shit and they only want more money.
>oh no we need to make more episodes but Hit is already surpassed! He can improve himself and go 10 times stronger in seconds then!
>oh no we need to make more episodes but Black is already surpassed! He can go angry until get an edgy scythe capable to shatter the space and create clones then, after be able to get zenkais even not being severely injured!
>oh no we need to make more episodes but Jiren is already surpassed! He [asspull] then!
You can wait for manga Jiren being how he's supposed to be in the outline but his anime counterpart being overpowered via aspulls
That's it. Im getting sick and tired of DBS' inconsistency.
Dragon Ball and DBZ was consistent as fuck. There was never a plothole at all.
But in Super there is a huge one, and by huge I mean HUGE.
Everyone saw the last Tournament between U6 and U7. Including Zeno.
That tournament was dominated by U7 fighters, they DID WON.
Not to mention Beerus is way stronger than Champa.
So you can't say "ningens lost, but the Hakaishin is stronger".
Now how the fuck is Universe 6 is superior to Universe 7???
> If you would say it's TOei's fault, I 'd believe that!
>Complaining about asspull power-ups
>In a sequel to Dragonball Z(enkai)
You know that Vegeta went from weaker than Qui to stronger than everyone in Frieza's army except the Ginyu Force in one or two Zenkai's, right?
I heard Jiren was originally supposed to be the one Goku fights in the exhibition matches but it was changed to Toppo last minute so that Jiren could be the final and strongest Pride Trooper Goku faces.
Was this a change made by Toei? Was Toppo supposed to be the final fighter against Goku in Toriyama's outline, or was it a simple mistake on Toei's behalf?
I didn't say is a good thing, I'm saying isn't a bad thing at all. Do you want more Final Flash, Big Bang Attacks, Makankosappos, ki swords, etc? Good, but stop pretending is necessary for any character or the show at all.