Are Shonen Magazine and Shonen Sunday in chrisis? They haven't had any important success since 2010-2011 and almost all their powerhouses are ending.
SHONEN MAGAZINE
>Only got Hajime no Ippo, Fairy Tail and Nanatsu currently
>Had Love Hina, Get Backers, Samurai Deeper Kyo, Air Gear, School Rumble, Negima, or Tsubasa in the past
>Fairy Tail is already ending
>After Nanatsu, they haven't had any new important manga
SHONEN SUNDAY
>Only got Detective Conan, Hayate, Magi, Silver Spoon (which is irregular with its dates) and Rinne (which unlike Inuyasha or Ranma, nobody notices it)
>Had Flame of Recca, MÄR, The Law of Ueki, The World God Only Knows, Kekkaishi, Yakitake Japan, Kenichi, and Zatch Bell in the past
>Hayate and Magi are already ending
>After Magi, they haven't had any new important manga
>>154821284
>Magi
What's been happening ever since Alibaba married Mor? I haven't had the opportunity to catch up.
Both Shonen Magazine and Shonen Sunday got awesome mangas in last decade, but they are sucking so hard this decade.
Only Magi and Nanatsu no Taizai have been relevant for this decade.
After this 2017, only Nanatsu no Taizai is remaining, so both magazines should try to get some new mangas.
>>154821350
Simbad cucking the world because he wants Aladdin and Alibaba to prove him he was wrong
>>154821284
Never really got into Fairy Fail but it seems kinda early for it be ending. I'm convinced Hajime no Ippo will go until he dies in the ring or something.
As for Sunday, only thing I ever sort-of kept up with was Hayate for a bit. It got way too convoluted and cluster-fucky to try to pick back up.
>>154821284
Don't forget that Magazine also has Dia no Ace.
It's sad to see how both Magazine and Sunday are struggling this decade.
Jump has managed to introduce some mangas which are sustaining it (Shokugeki, Hero Academia, Assasination Classroom, Haikyuu, maybe Black Clover, now Promised Neverland and Kimetsu no Yaiba), but Magazine and Sunday aren't bringing nothing new.
>>154821284
Shonen Sunday's trying the 6 new series roulette like Jump. Let's see what happens
>>154821566
The art of the issue 19 one grabbed my attention. Hope it is good.
>>154821284
>>After Nanatsu, they haven't had any new important manga
Isn't NNT supposed to be a ~300 chapter story leading directly towards a sequel featuring Arthur the the knights of a renewed Camelot, including some kids from the current cast?
Shonen Sunday is going to sell even if it's just Detective Conan and a bunch of shit nobody cares about. Conan is a magazine seller nearly on par with One Piece.
>>154821566
New Series: Koi (Working Title) by Tamiki Wakaki [Kami Nomi zo Shiru Sekai's author]
Ummm
Meanwhile, Shonen Magazine dunno what is going to do when Fairy Tail ends (is ending this year).
>>154821284
They don't even seem like shounen magazines, it's better if they just go seinen since they obviously don't want to be shounen.
>>154821554
It just proves that Jump's crazy series axing works. Most of the best selling manga are Jump series.
Last decade Jump had the advantage thanks to One Piece and Naruto being powerhouses, but both Jump, Magazine, and Sunday provided more or less the same quantity of interesting shonens.
This decade, barring Nanatsu, all shonens have come from Jump.
>>154821651
>leading directly towards a sequel featuring Arthur the the knights of a renewed Camelot, including some kids from the current cast?
you lie I haven't read taizai in minute I literallty caught up to 100 chapters to be 100 more behind but is this true I love king arthur and merlin.
also isn't elizabeth a white mage god now
>>154821284
Can't really take you seriously because you didn't mention Diamond no Ace even though it's selling better than 95% in magazine, including Fairy Tail. Days and Baby Steps sell better than Ippo too. Fire Brigade doesn't have an anime and it's selling 80k. There's also Vector Ball and Fumetsu
Major 2nd, Dagashi, Souboutei and Komi sell better than Rinne and Hayate and most of them don't even have an anime. Rinne doesn't even chart in Oricon anymore
You're an idiot if you think Rinne, Ippo and Hayate are still relevant
You're especially an idiot because you completely ignored Diamond no Ace
It's not looking good for Sunday but Magazine will be fine
>>154821284
The thing about Magazine is that nobody out west cares about Magazine's sports manga, particularly Daiya no Ace & Ahiru no Sora, which sell over 200k and have been long runners. But they've been branching too far into different genres and they don't have a primary genre base anymore.
As for Sunday, the series of the last decade are coming to an end. But they're really clinging onto the shonen romcom as their primary genre. So they're trying to bank on their new series like Hatsukoi Zombie, Amano Megumi, and Komi-san. But catering to mostly a single genre is a big risk
>>154822363
Who knows how guaranteed anything is, but the mythological Lancelot's parents were King Ban and Queen Elaine.
>>154822508
Also, Sunday tends to keep series that rank kinda well even though they don't sell. Which is why they still have tanking series like Mushibugyo, Yugami-kun, and Keijo.
>>154821566
the week 22-23 series' art has caught my attention.
>>154821566
22/23>19>20>24>21=25
No need to read any of them I already gave the definite rankings.
>>154821284
>cut rate shonen jump
>cut rate of a cut rate shonen jump
How important is Hajime no Ippo to Magazine? I have no idea how well it actually does.
>>154821566
From the picture alone you can tell 20, 21 and 25 will be axed early.
>>154823948
Not really. I think it slipped into being a legacy series, like Kindaichi.
>>154824039
Every Sunday series I know has survived at least a year. Even the terrible ones that don't sell. I think their mentality is to wait and see if it hits big, after a year they cut.
Case and point: Dagashi's first volume didn't record in oricon in its initial run. Now its a flagship series that sells at least 100k
>>154821284
Shone magazine also has fire force
>>154821284
Don't know about SM, but wasn't SS's thing having more T&A than Jump? Basically, don't they cater to the hornier youths?
>>154824219
Is Kindaichi worth reading? It always just felt like a second rate Conan to me.
Tsurezure Anime soon, right?
>>154824340
A lot of their series have fanservice
They don't care as long as Detective Conan keeps printing money.
>>154821350
Sinbad's a bitch.
>>154824298
Fire force is up there, but it sells less than SYD.
>>154824344
It's a different style.I read somewhere before that Kindaichi usually drags out its murders because they try and get the reader to actually solve the crime before Kindaichi does.
Isn't Rinne going to have an announcement tomorrow? It might be ending, it's already as long as Urusei Yatsura. And while I'm sure Rumiko will die writing manga, I can't help but consider the possibility that she's going to retire since she's old.
>>154821787
Oh shit, Wakaki? Gotta check it out.
>>154824405
Any of those good?
>>154824670
Depends on what you're looking for.
>>154824488
lol, the length of that is ridiculous. Did Ran finally accept that Shinichi is never coming back and move on? Did Shinichi get together with the shrunken chemist?
>>154824399
Summer I think.
>>154824710
Eh, either a readable manga with extremely good fanservice or a better than average manga with better than average fanservice.
>>154824800
Less than half a year has officially passed, I believe.
>>154824913
More than half a year, but less than a year.
>>154824800
It has been less than a year since Shinichi shrunk. He hasn't gotten anywhere with Ran but at least five characters in the police department have successfully found the love of their life. Hell, even Agasa met his childhood crush again. Also, Shinichi has un-shrunk himself on four separate occasions now. It's getting a bit ridiculous.
>>154824520
Fire Force will sell 3 times as much when it gets an anime
>calling it zatch bell instead of gash bell
>>154824906
The only ones I know with high levels of fanservice are Amano Megumi, Keijo, and Tokiwa Kitareri. The rest cater more to comedy.
>>154825058
Fire force sells 80k and is on the upper half of Magazine's sellers. Anime or not, it'll be fine for a while unless the author decides to end it. Which he probably won't.
>>154821566
19 and 22/23 look dope.
>>154822412
Plus they have Ahiru no Sora, which everyone seems to forget about, despite it being a consistent 200k seller.
How good is Weekly Shonen Jump even doing these days?
Isn't it in a similar boat as those two? Aside from a few series, it's full of young ones now not grabbing a lot of attention, aside from maybe The Promised Neverland.
>>154828459
Better than in 2013~2015. Four succesful series started last year, 2017 is looking good too
>>154828459
Doing quite nicely, it's been axing things like crazy, but some things with potential are popping up slowly.
Neverland, Kimetsu, Yuna.
>>154828459
>How good is Weekly Shonen Jump even doing these days?
Well they've hit an artistic low with Black Clover.
>>154828580
Boruto has running on Naruto popularity, so I don't know if I could count that. Excluding that, only Yuuna's making near 100k in a 2 week span. The other two may catch up, but chances are they'll consistently fluctuate between 100-150k.
>>154822412
The real question is which sells better, Diamond no Ace or Giant Killing? It's been a clash of two sport titans for years now, and I guess maybe Haikyuu as well for a triple threat?
>>154828459
>>154828580
They also have found their next big hit in Hero Academia which is already consolidated
>>154821284
>Ranma: 38 manga volumes
>Rinne: 35 manga volumes so far and still ongoing
I wonder why you said nobody noticed it.
>>154828644
>Excluding that, only Yuuna's making near 100k in a 2 week span. The other two may catch up, but chances are they'll consistently fluctuate between 100-150k.
They don't have anime adaptions yet
Yuragi will probably be on Nisekoi's level, Kimetsu on WT level, and Neverland is already selling really well with only 2 volumes
>>154828638
I feel like no matter how much they try to push it, the series won't take off in Japan. It is quite shameful that they've lowered the bar this low, since it will encourage new and aspiring mangaka to produce completely uninspired shit. I guess they were really desperate for a new series in 2015 and let this survive since it at least had above average art.
>>154821284
Shonen Jump is in a crisis also. Literally coasting off of One Piece. It's even 80% done at this point in time, give or take. We're in a dark age of manga for shonen magazines.
>>154828751
Heck, I think the chapters not yet released in tankobon form already add up to 38 volumes. Plus the anime's third season will begin in a few weeks and the previous ones got pretty high ratings.
It's not a smashing worldwide success like Ranma and Inuyasha, but it's done well. And I'd say it's mainly due to the fact that it feels like something out of the 90s which doesn't really resonate with today's audiences.
>>154828977
Please shut up if you don't know what you're talking about.
>>154828754
>run manga and anime parralel
>manga fans are pissed at shitty filler and won't watch
>anime fans already seen what happens and won't read the manga
Who came up with this shit? Why not just finish a manga and then animate it if there's demand?
>>154830536
Strike while the iron's hot Anon
>>154830536
Because having it on TV pushes the brand really hard and makes everyone involved lots of money
>>154830536
The glorious land of Nippon did.
>>154830536
>anime fans already seen what happens and won't read the manga
This is factually not what happens, though. Basically everything that gets an anime has its manga sales boosted by that.
>>154828977
>implying
Anon, WSJ had five series in the top ten best-sellers of last year (four if you discount AssClass). WSM had one, and WSS had none.
>>154821284
>>Hayate and Magi are already ending
>>Hayate
>>already ending
>>Hayate
>>ALREADY
You mean finally don't you? Shit sucked for years now.
What the fuck
Vector Ball "part 1" is ending in issue 16, in the middle of a fight
I hope Raiku is okay
>>154834381
Well in his extras at the end of the volumes, he was complaining about the stress, so maybe it got to him