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Why don't best girls ever win, /a/? What is this cultural

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Why don't best girls ever win, /a/? What is this cultural phenomenon?
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But Yui is winning and is likely to win.
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>>154808477
Still delusional after all this time.
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Yukino > Irohas > power gap > Yui
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>>154808495
I am not. I am optimistic.
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>Koji Seo

Fuck I knew Fuuka was gonna suck.
>Watch show
>Introduce girl who same name as show
>short hair
>shit as always
>introduce best girl
>best girl track going great
>protaganist decides to be a homo
>fml I knew this was gonna suck
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Two past days I watched the first season of this with my older sister who knows nothing about anime.

She thought it was alright
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>>154808574
I get that but Yuifags already got the alternate volume where your girl won didn't you?
Atleast give us Yukinofags something.
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>>154808644
Yukinofags who are Yukino and 8man shippers have the VN.

ANOTHER was great but the main series should be well written and complete 8man's character arc more than anything. Yui fills a role in that.
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>>154808644
You have every line in the LN when 8man and her are together. The first volume is filled with him practically fawning over her.

At least give us Yuifags the satisfaction and anticipation (also read: false hope) that it's all a red herring.
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>>154808691
The VN has multiple routes anon.
So Technically you have 2/2(VN and Another) while we Yukinofags have 1/2(only the VN).
And yet you still want more.
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>8man becomes a wizard
inb4 he chooses the cake
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>>154808735
To be fair, Yuifags have had to see their girl rejected and thus dejected.
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He's gonna drop them both and choose something retarded like Yumiko
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>>154808710
>that it's all a red herring.
It is. Wrong as expected comedy is the title FFS. People who thinks Yukino and 8man will end up together are niave and haven't been paying much attention. Yukino's feelings for him are false.

>>154808735
I care about the story above all else. I think a Yui end is likely vecause it fits the story but I will take anything that is well written and meaningful.

>>154808754
And if 8man rejects her it will be awful. Yukinofags got a good end for Yukino without seeing her hurt in ANOTHER.
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>>154808359
Best girl will win in Yahari, at least.
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>>154808789
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>>154808789
That's a nice picture, anon. But what does Yukino have to do with best girls?
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>>154808740
Truly the best end.
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These whores not deserve the 8man.
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>>154808895
>whores
Yui is pure as can be! She wants to live a happy life as a wife!
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I want to break Yui's legs and throw her into a ravine!
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>>154808963
She wants to be Hikki's pet and onahole.
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>>154808359
Pic unrelated, right? Cause Yui is worst girl.
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>>154809078
I think you're in the wrong thread. This thread isn't about shit opinions.
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>>154809078
Yui is lovely. Maybe she isn't your favorite but she is a nice, sweet girl that deserves some love and respect.
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>>154808359
Op are you the Eririfag
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>>154809391
Who?
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>>154808359
Japan has shit taste in women.
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>>154809559
But then how come they can make the best women in media -- the type that lingers in the mind and weighs on the heart? How can they do that and then proceed to fuck it all up?
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Rewatching the series, they sure spend a disproportionate amount of time developing Yui's relationship with 8man. Is this what they call hope, /a/?
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>>154808359
It's rare, but not never. I'm pretty confident Yukino will win, so here's hoping.
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>>154808640
Show Madoka to her. Girls love Madoka.
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>>154810364
>Yukino will win
April 18th will be good. I can't wait until then. You fags will be so wrong. I hope you don't go nuclear and start spamming out of butthurt.
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>>154808867

>Sensei drives off into the sunset and opens her apartment. There she finds an older man who resembles 8man readying dinner who welcomes her back asking how everything went. She just tells him it all worked out.

SENSEI IS YUKINO FROM THE FUTURE WHO WASTED HER CHANCE TO BE WITH HIM AND TRAVELED BACK IN TIME TO MAKE SURE HER SHIP WINS!
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>>154808359
what have you eaten today anon? because clearly none of them any best girl, in fact they are all sluts and cunts.

8man only deserves the loner ending. he's too good for any of those bitches.
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I fully expect Hayama to get together with Yukino. All the plot elements are there and we know she loved him at some point and still loves him. The opposite of love is apathy, not hate. Her hating him just shows she still loves him while she is apathetic to 8man. The bonds of childhood are deep and they are one emotional breakthrough from being in eachother's arms. Vol 12 will be centered around this. We will learn what happened to them that would sour their relationship. Hayama will make up for the past and Yukino will swoon since he proved he has changed the way she always wanted. Yukino will forgive him. Yukino likely still loves Hayama and they'd make a good couple, they are both good looking and are on a level of superiority 8man can never attain or even touch. 8man doesn't like her but even if he did she would never give him the time of day for anything but friendship, his romcom will be wrong as expected.

8man will most likely be with Yui or no one. Yui fits the wrong romcom mold after all.
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>>154810468
SENSEI IS --HARUNO-- FROM THE FUTURE WHO WASTED HER CHANCE TO BE WITH HIM AND TRAVELED BACK IN TIME TO MAKE SURE HER SHIP WINS!

fixed.
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WW is resentful towards his readers for not supporting his other works. He will have Yukino end up with Hayama. Iroha will end up with Zaimokoza. Yui will get rejected in the worst way possible and will commit suicide.
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>>154810786
>delay shit for two years
>expecting support as people get more pissed at him
I doubt it. He was going to give this a meaningful loner end and realized how much that would piss people off so he is cashing out. Notice there is still a good supply of oregairu goods even now? ANOTHER and the VN will satiate the shippers, or it was supposed to.
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>>154808849
What do you mean? Yukino is best girl.
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>>154810892
>implying
She is a bitch who tried to kick 8man out of the club for no good reason, insults 8man every chance she gets, acts like an asshole to everyone, doesn't even talk to her family, bullies Yumiko because she is jealous about how much time Yumiko spends with Hayama, throws shitfits when 8man can't read her mind, and isn't receptive to Yui's affection.
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8man is beyond redemption. He won't end up with anyone.
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>>154810958
One girl will brighten his day and redeem him. He will get the genuine and Yui will help him.
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Iroha really grew on me, especially in the 2nd OVA. Despite that, I'm not expecting anything to come of it. I'm resigned to the eventually Yukino pairing

Anyone got any pdf/ebook links for the first 4 LN volumes?
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>>154811788
Check on madokami, they all should be there.
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>>154808359
You just have shit taste, best girl occasionally won.

Though i agree Yui is best girl and wont win in 8bowl.
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>>154813097
You have some mighty shit taste yourself there as well.
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>it's Yuipolfag thread again
Why don't you ever stop being a faggot?
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Yui really deserve it for my personal point of view
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>>154814125
It's not about who deserves. Yukino will be better for Hachiman both in the short and long term.
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>>154814664
Besides, Yukino deserves it more anyway.Volume 12 will reveal why.
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>>154814125
Yui doesnt deserve shit, she had multiple opportunities to confess her feelings before 8man got close with Yuki

I love Yui but she frustrates me
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I need more Yui doujins by Akinosora.
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>>154808631
Wrong thread faggot
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>>154814664
Well depends in which way you think about it
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While it pains me so, 8man will forever be alone as this anon >>154810958 says. The girls will try to redeem him but due to his philosophy and martyring complex, the girls will just give up sooner or later.

The life of 8man must always be filled with loneliness and suffering, it is his own fate.
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>>154814729
If you Say shit is what she truly love let me remind that 8man is attentionned more than others sometime in the story but have huge communication problem
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>>154815124
But 8man don't trust in fate it would be kind a joke
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>>154808783
I'm not sure if a Yui end is plausible, but I'm pretty sure that a Yukino end is what WILL NOT HAPPEN.
Because that's what is expected in a love comedy, right?
The main/first girl to win, right?
But then you remembered the title of the story.
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I like Yukinon and Yui but Iroha is trash
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>>154815322
cheers matey
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>>154815124
Isn't the point of the series is that 8man is slowly realising that being the martyr isn't a good thing, and should value himself more?

I'm not saying loner end is a no-go, but if it is a loner end, it's gonna be a "he's a better person now" end right?
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>>154810958
>8man is beyond redemption.

more like beyond the human realm. he's too good for these cunts. he won't end up with anyone.
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It's been nearly 2 fucking years since volume 11. Why are any of you still here? Just to suffer?
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>>154817376
yes and because vol 12 will be out in 4 weeks
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>>154817682
In that case it's about fucking time.
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If the cover has Yukino on it how will certain people react to it? You know who.
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>>154817975
I will be pretty happy. "You know who" is going to throw a bitchfit.
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>>154808359
because japs eat shit
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>>154810847
>a meaningful loner end
>meaningful
come on, you are free to not like shipping but let's not talk shit out of our ass.
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>yfw Vol 12 isn't the end and solves absolutely nothing.
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Since Yui won in an AU where Yukino swallows her feelings, 8man neither confesses to Yui or gets the genuine article, 8man and Yui aren't going out and the most she could get was another date and some hand holding, and nothing gets resolved doesn't that make it a bad end? Giving Yui such an end is kinda shitty but doesn't it mean that she never had a chance to get the end she wanted? Yukino is the main heroine so I expect volume 12 to revolve around her but will WW give her the same sort of meh end? Maybe no romance works out and giving Yui that sort of romance shows that this story isn't really about that and that we will get a loner end or a friends end rather than a Yukino end. Yukino likes 8man but we aren't sure how he feels and how long Yukino will like him or to what extent. For all we know she decides to walk a path without him plus she has to consider she might lose Yui as a friend if she takes 8man.
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Yukino should have won 2 years ago. Now this series is cash grab and no ending we probably be satisfying.

Yui is still best girl in my opinion
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>>154819791
We don't know if Yui will win or not. She is best girl so there is always hope.

>Now this series is cash grab and no ending we probably be satisfying.
WW done fucked up but I suspect there was some executive meddling. Yahari makes good shekels after all. The end could be satisfying as long as you don't hype it too much or if there are no asspulls like an Iroha end or Yui abandoning 8man/Yukino just because she can't date 8man.
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>>154819861
>Yui abandoning 8man/Yukino just because she can't date 8man.

That's not an asspull. That's what's going to happen and what it has been building up to.
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>>154819926
I am not sure about that since she made such an open play at the end of volume 11. If she was so focused on getting him she would have made her moves behind her back. Maybe during a sleepover or something. Yukino might cry but she would accept it and feel too guilty to do something about it. Yukino is a nice girl deep down but up until the end of volume 11 she couldn't really express her true desires, especially when there is a risk and hurting both Yui and 8man.

In the end she helped Yukino and 8man and probably increased their chances of being happy. It was out of love for her friends so I doubt she would abandon them for good just because she didn't get what she wanted. She wants everything but is her second choice nothing? It hurts to get rejected but people can heal. She promised to not abandon Yukino out of jealousy so I think you have too little faith in her. I hope everyone grows and becomes happy, what is the point of the service club for Yui if she learns nothing?
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>>154820092
You people are so focused on volume 11 and just volume 11, that you don't see the bigger picture.
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>>154820130
True but it is the most recent volume and shows where the characters are at right now so it is not unheard of to use it as a basis for how we think volume 12 will go. I admit it has been a very long time since I have read the first few volumes and volumes 8 and 9. Yui did show a disregard of 8man/Yukino's during those volumes and her reasoning probably was she didn't want to have her excuse to be around 8man destroyed but I think volume 11 is essential when looking at her character. The Yui in volume 11 is not the same one from volume 8 and 9 or the Yui from the first few volumes who probably had ulterior motives.

Same with Yukino on the volume 11 thing, her character is set up for her end but there is still some mystery. The early volumes and volume 9 probably holds the real answer to her character but what it is remains to be seen.
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Yui deserves the win. She's wanted GENUINE from the beginning!

On a side note, how long has Yui known 8man? In the first volume she says that he never gave up back 'then' and seems to refer to his past self.. Do they ever expand upon this?
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>>154808631
>tfw Nisekoi did this but short hair boring girl got BTFO
Based Komi
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>>154821530
Yui wanted to blow him for a year before she entered the club. She is referring to him saving her dog.
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>>154822344
>"You never gave up back then, either. You just went all the way, yelling so hard it was creepy. You looked so desperate... I remember." - Official Yen-On Translation
Is she really referring to the accident here, then?
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>>154818402
I'm actually expecting this to happen
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>>154822631
Yes. What happened to tsundere Yui? She used to have some tsun but now she is pure dere.
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>>154822631
>yelling so hard it was creepy.
The fuck?
This dude risks his life to save that dumb mutt of hers and this is the thanks he gets?

Yui is such a shit
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>>154823382
She was hiding her embarrassment. In ANOTHER she explains her first meeting with him and how she felt.
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>>154819926
>That's what's going to happen and what it has been building up to.
I wouldn't be surprised. She said she was happy with a lie and she doesn't seem to care about genuine. A good portion of her actions are based around getting him to like her.
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>>154818402
Pretty much this. I would assume that nips are smart enough to announce that this is the end and promote shit out of this to sell more.
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>>154819861
>executive meddling
Is it really that hard to believe that maybe Watari just likes money?
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>>154819861
>if my favourite girl doesn't win it's an asspull and some suit forced Watari to change the ending

Yukino fags everyone.
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Should I rewatch this show? Last time i managed to finish season 1 but then dropped season 2 halfway because i couldn't take the feels anymore.
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>>154825520
>We don't know if Yui will win or not. She is best girl so there is always hope

>no asspulls like an Iroha end or Yui abandoning 8man/Yukino just because she can't date 8man.

Are you mentally retarded?
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>>154825696
>dropping s2
Why the hell would anyone do that? I'd really understand if someone would drop the show mid s1 because it started out retardedly slow. The feels get only worse in s2. If the first half made you drop it then you probably wont even survive the last 10ish minutes of the season finale.
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>>154824628
>A good portion of her actions are based around getting him to like her.
That's not even it. She wanted a chance to express her feelings without 8man constantly putting up his anti-nice girl defense against her. Saying that she's happy with a lie is Yui being an unreliable narrator in that section. It contradicts her whole reason for joining the club in the first place which was out of admiration for Yukino and 8man as people who freely express themselves.
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8man becomes a wizard
objective best end
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College end
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>>154825999
no to all of it
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>>154826085
Very convincing.
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>>154826139
Why should I waste time explaining? The biggest problem with this entire fandom is that you all blindly believe everything these characters say, instead of looking at their actions. That's why 2 years ago nobody understood what was going on in season 2 and it's the same reason nobody understands anything about the series right now.
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>>154825999
Good portion!=All
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>>154826222
>you all blindly believe everything these characters say
>She said she was happy with a lie
Good job blindly believing what Yui said then retard.
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>>154826222
Yui 's actions were sinking all ships in order to get 8man or Yukino to act. I am not a nice or fair girl is a cover to her true motives . Being fine with a lie isn't true.
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>>154826255
No. The lie is Yui saying she wanted to join the Service Club out of admiration for Yukino. There are so many signs that bash you over the head that the only reason Yui joined the Service Club is so she could get closer to Hachiman, but apparently this fandom is about as dense as a generic harem protagonist, so nobody understands anything that has happened througout the series.
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>>154826326
Yui's actions weren't sinking all ships. She literally tells you she'll take all of it, even if she knows Hachiman doesn't love her. And that's what happened in ANOTHER.
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>>154825696
I just finished the last episode of Season 2 and I honestly feel like going back all the way to the first, getting a pencil and paper, and jotting down little notes about what the characters are feeling and saying so I can get a better understanding of the story.

The second season has a massive tonal shift that also happens to affect the language the character uses that effectively makes it even more vague. Of course, I'd also recommend reading the LN because the anime does an okay (mind you, just okay) job of showing us how 8man feels in certain situations.
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>>154826335
>There are so many signs that bash you over the head that the only reason Yui joined the Service Club is so she could get closer to Hachiman
Where? People can have more than one motivation you autist.
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>>154826335
All she wanted to do back then was express her gratitude to 8man by giving him cookies. She only decided to join the club after seeing how 8man and Yukino talk to each other which was completely unlike how Yui tries to get along with people. Do you think that Yui doesn't care about Yukino at all? That would only be a biased assumption on your part.
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yuyushiki thread?
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>>154826380
What is all of it? She wants everyone to be happy and the blind to be happy. She wouldn't make a big show of it if she wanted something other than that. She at least pretended to try to sink Yukino.
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>>154826380
ANOTHER splits off from the timeline way before the aquarium volume so Yui never reached a point where she had to do that. Besides, Yukino basically gave Yui the win in ANOTHER.
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>>154826446
This. That guy is making it out like she had some sort of plan and is calculating in any way possible to date 8man. She does care about both of them and is trying to get both to warm up.
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>>154826424
>>154826446
If she flat out admits that she only joined for Hachiman in a month, will you guys then finally accept it?
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>>154826671
Also Yui wasn't aware of Yukino's problems or her crush on 8man.
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>>154826671
That's true, but she still takes the "all of it" she was talking about in volume 11.
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>>154826728
When? Where? Quote? The festival date? She just said that she was likely to make her way into his life and fall in love with him.
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>>154826779
Actually it applies to ANOTHER since she says in her memorandum that she wants everything.
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>>154826897
Then what are we even arguing about? She already got "everything" she wanted.
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>>154826728
I don't see why Watari has to write something like that just to justify your biased views.
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>>154826960
The start of ANOTHER has her memorandum. It takes place before vol 10 likely.
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>>154827011
Oh. From what I remember she repeats those same lines somewhere in either the last episode or the episode before that. Watari even wrote ANOTHER after he wrote volume 11, so where exactly those memorandums take place is up in the air. But that's not the point. The point is that in ANOTHER Yui got what she was asking for in the main series.
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>>154827176
>Watari even wrote ANOTHER after he wrote volume 11, so where exactly those memorandums take place is up in the air
Yukino was still enthralled by genuine . In her recipe it isn't a factor.

>got what she wanted
She wanted 8man's , to be his girlfriend, and have Yukino to be her close friend. All she got was a hand holding, promise of another date, and Yukino agreeing to sit in the corner and not complain.
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>>154827692
It's only not a factor in her recipe, because all three of them are going for an easier out.
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Are the Mangas worth looking into if you've watched the anime and are reading the light novels? On that note, is it worth to read the different manga series or are they pretty much the same?
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>>154810629
The true ending.
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>>154828405
For the first 4 novels, the manga is solid. Then from there on, starting with volume 5 it follows the anime blindly, leaving out the same things the anime left out.

The @comic does a couple of things from the LN better, however changes certain other things drastically, so definitely skip that one.
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>>154828030
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>>154827850
But she was talking about it so glowingly makes me think the memorandum just happened after vol 9.

I think the easy way out is unfair to Yukino since it seals her up and makes her stagnate and I think it is unfair to Hachiman. Hachiman is pigeon holed into dating a girl he probably likes but doesn't love her the same way she loves him. He doesn't really get his genuine thing by his own admission. It isn't bad to have a cute girlfriend who is very into you though.
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>>154808359
Best girl won in KoiChoco, best girl won in Shana, and so on and so forth. I just gave you two counterexamples.
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The annoying thing is most authors make it fucking obvious who is going to win mid way through then they have to follow through with it because the readers will get pissed.
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>>154828030
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>>154826774
Yui knows Yukinon likes Hikki in ANOTHER, she just chooses her own feelings over Yukinon's.

>>154826728
I doubt she would. I doubt that Yui would even talk to 8man after being rejected. Yui would have to admit during the confession.
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>>154825922
No anon I couldn't handle the feels anymore. It broke me.
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>>154828623
All signs point to Yui if the anime is anything to go by. That's good.
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>>154808359
I wish Yui was my girlfriend.
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>>154830916
>tfw the loner Lifestyle doesn't get you a devoted girlfriend irl
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>>154831107
Yui isn't all that devoted in the moments it counts.
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>>154810601
>I-I didn't want pretty girls anyway.
Anon pls, no honest male will pass up the chance to be with one.
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If Yukino happens to win I don't think we should spam these threads and flame people who guessed wrong. I am a Yukinofag but I am disgusted at all these people who just shitpost in her name but don't understand her or the story. They just ship her without thinking about the real her.
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>>154831603
t. yuipolfag
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Should I get the Vita game and Google Translate every single line so I can see Yui win, or should I buy that life-size wall scroll of Yui?
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>>154832134
Buy the wallscroll.
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/a/ sings harumodoki or everyday world to commemorate the release of vol 12 when?
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>>154810958
>beyond redemption
Stop being so melodramatic. He's just an angsty teen who should learn to enjoy life instead of navel gazing.
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>>154832913
I wish 8man would look at navels instead.
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>>154831661
I have nothing to do with him. Why accuse me of being someone else just because I don't want a torrent of shitposting when vol 12 comes out? Yuifags were civil after ANOTHER was finished so we should be civil too.

People complain all the time about how awful the fanbase is so shouldn't we put an effort to make things better?
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>>154808783
I can't wait for you to get BTFO in Volume 12 yuipollfag
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>>154833286
>Yuifags were civil after ANOTHER was finished so we should be civil too

what a load of shit
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>>154833286
No side has been civil, you're lying to yourself if you think otherwise. I think its time to accept what ever side wins is going to shitpost to their hearts content. There is no stopping that now
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When will this shit end?
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>>154833466
April faggot
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>>154833464
Certain posters and parts of the fanbase has some way or another became the targets of of the rest of the fanbase. I feel that it is unnecessary to flame them regardless of the end.

We don't have to be shitposters.
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>>154833843
Anyone that is getting flamed now deserves it considering how absolutely horrid those people you're trying to defend have been.
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>>154833920
Yuifags, certain Yukinofags, and the reasonable Irohafags shouldn't have to endure such bile and fury due to some bad apples.
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>>154834023
>reasonable Irohafags
No such thing. Besides you know that even if Yukino wins, which it apparently looks like, Irohafags and Yuifags are still going to shit on her and her fans like they have been for the past 2 years. So I honestly don't know why you're doing this preventive damage control.
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>>154834678
I don't think they will. Most are resigned to a Yukino end and would maybe grumble a complaint or two but I wouldn't expect a meltdown.

I am not too confident Yukino will win. I am a Yukinofag but I think friends end is the most likely. I would prefer a friends end too.

>>154833397
Read the archives. Yuifags were pretty cool about her winning ANOTHER.
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>>154834678
>No such thing.
there have been some.
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>>154835071
>Read the archives. Yuifags were pretty cool about her winning ANOTHER.
>Hayama NTR'd Yukino!

How about you read the archives.
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>>154835071
yuipolfag why are you pretending to be a yukinofag, from your writing it's clearly you
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>>154835661
That was before volume R came out. When it was confirmed that Yui end was there all talk of that was dropped.

>>Hayama NTR'd Yukino!
Hayama can't NTR Yukino unless he fucks a Pan-san.
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Best girls never win because the person who is the "rival" character is supposed to be superior to the main girl. When the rival is prettier, richer, smarter, has larger breasts, and a variety of other things, it gives the audience a bigger sense of accomplishment to "beat" them.

Imagine a story with romance elements if the person who is the rival for affection is homely, ugly, poor, flat chested, and dumb. There is zero sense of accomplishment to have the main girl beat her because she would have beaten her regardless.

That's why "best girl" always loses, and the "rival" tends to be the better girl. She is superior in every way and destined to be the loser.
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>>154835699
Is this the most pathetic thing in these threads?
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I found a preview of volume 12.
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>>154837056
The most pathetic thing are Yuifags' hope that their girl will win.

Because we're not gonna get what we want. ;_;
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>>154839855
The ture hell is being so close to a win in universe but so far from actually winning. There is still hope. At least fans of other girls can give up and Yukinofags will get what they want.

Being a Yuifag is suffering worse than Yui's.
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>>154815440

it doesn't help that they are all still bitching around. if he ends up with any girl he'll just be taken advantage of like what a total cunt and slut would do.

that would be the worst end for 8man.
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>>154815309

by that logic of title name, loner end is also plausible.
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>>154808359
are we gonna get a white album ending?
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>>154840836
1 or 2?
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>>154835923
>the person who is the "rival" character is supposed to be superior to the main girl
That makes sense in female-oriented series because the audience can identify with the main heroine as an underdog fighting for the love of some ikemen against a superior foe, but in male-oriented series the rival is more often than not a potential love interest for the male protagonist, who the audience is meant to identify with. Incompetent writers with the above mentality could inadvertently endear the audience to the rival. I mean, think about it; ironically, they're the real underdog: they may be superior and most guys actually want them, but they're fated to lose anyway.

But often main heroines are catches. Every girl is, but while Yui is very pretty and has her own assets, she isn't worshiped like Yukino is.

Honestly I prefer effort is poured into the OTP, so much so that there is no real competition. Ideally the main heroine/love interest should be best girl.
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