>Ufo put Dezel on their twitter profile
He's gonna die isn't he?
>>154772320
W-whet if they are gonna pull aFuuka truck over us?
There might behope for Dezel!
Is the bilibili stream working for anyone?
>>154772397
Apparently he stopped streaming it two weeks ago.
The tvtokyo link is dead too, I guess have to wait for downloads now.
>>154772273
Here for Mary Sue queen Alisha
>>154772442
Well shit.
>>154772442
http://mov3.co/en/tokyomx/
It's up
>>154772580
Not for me, it just loads forever.
>>154772636
Try to deactivate your adblocker.
More Berseria.
>>154772829
Which each and every new episode it becomes more and more perplexing as to the purpose of the knights, other than to lick Alisha's ass.
>>154772910
sup velvet
Oh shit, velvet is awake
Blood moon.
>>154773014
Why do birds fly?
>>154773014
>Sorey has wet dream about Velvet
What did he mean by this
>>154773014
What about Innominat? They effectively retconned Berseria didn't they?
That scene was just like the one in Berseria.
>>154773104
That Apple Dragon's rampant Velvetlust is infectious
>>154773119
She didn't wake up, it was a dream/vision.
>>154773167
And was the point of it?
>>154773198
I don't speak ching chong so I don't know. But it won't surprise me if she asked "Why do birds fly?"
>>154773198
she will awake in the next episode ?
So are they finally taking care of Eizen?
>>154773198
More velvet is always good, faggot.
Dezel keeps getting deathflags.
>>154773247
At this point in time I wouldn't be surprised if it was just another pointless reference.
>>154773251
I believe that the next episode will be the last one.
>>154773286
Nigga's even more kawaii than Meebo
>>154773339
Please no that looks awful
>>154773339
Wow, his death is more pointless here than it was in the game, that's an actual achievement.
What was the point of this? Worse than the game. And Rose still did her animal noises.
>>154773397
>Zaveid escaped and now Rose has to wear the awful hat.
>>154773436
But anon you don't understand, ALISHA!!!
>>154773468
I meant Dezel's death in particular.
>2 irrelevant character dead in zestiria and ibo
>Velvet appear
Today is a good day
>>154773014
Good christ UFORTab;e's Velvet design always makes me salivate.
So fucking gorgeous
The way they handled Lunarre was even worse. Poor guy, he's useless in both the game and the anime. Why is he even a character?
>>154773551
In moments like this is when I appreciate IBO. I watch Zestiria and I think, well, at least it's not IBO.
>導き出した答え
https://twitter.com/takumystery1107/status/843469815691919360
same place
>>154773637
The Ice village in Northgand, right?
>>154773495
And? That was my point. The problem is that the anime wasted time with connecting Rose and Alisha story and erasing Dezel's story with her, this was a consequence of not having Sorey interact with the Scattered Bones, since if he did interact with them, then Dezel's character would have been established from season 1, and the question made about his connection to the assassination group. However, because this was removed in favor of connecting Rose with Alisha, this resulted in Dezel not having a story at all.
>>154773551
>2 irrelevant characters
>Alisha and her knights still alive
Nothing was accomplished here.
>>154773624
I watch IBO for the comedy, not even gintama makes me laugh that hard
>>154773593
At least in the game he called Rose out on her bullshit before dying.
Shouldn't Sorey's gramps be dying by now? Didn't that happened near the end when they were about to fight Heldalf? Why did they even make Sorey the mc?
>>154773785
It's the only way to enjoy it.
>>154773822
Because Sorey is still way more popular than Alisha and they needed to trick normalfags and secondaries into watching the anime or or suffer the fate of every other Yuri anime in existence. Unfortunately for them their ruse failed.
>>154774059
WHERE IS THE VELVET ONE?
>>154774144
That's the White Day (men's Valentine's Day) celebration you fucking gaijin.
>No one told me about Grimoir in this episode
Best Normin.
>WHY DO BIRDS FLY
Not again. Good to see you again too Velvet
GOODNIGHT
SLEEP TIGHT
MY PRINCE
;_;God that was fucking pointless, you had TWO WIND SERAPHIM, WHY DIDN'T YOU JUST HAVE HIM AND ZAVEID WORK TOGETHER TO EXPLODE ALL THE DRAGONS, FUCKING STUPID UFOTAAAAABLLLLLLLLEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Lunnare death in the anime had more sense than Dezel, THATS FUCKING SAYING A LOT
How the fuck did Dezel turn the evil loli back from being a dragon.
EXPLAIN THIS RIGHT NOW
>>154773822
Grampa won't die
They are literally on the other side of the world now
>>154775525
Siegfried used properly
>>154774867
>>154775496
Oh shit. The only Normin that's not obnoxious as shit.
>>154775548
More like they've erased Sorey's past now.
>>154773822
That plot got scrapped, and now Sorey and the party are invading Mount Killarous, which is not only earthpulse point, but also entrance toward Heavenly Steppes - the Seraphim realm, and also hinted where Innaminot and Velvet Crowe sleep, sealed from this world.
They used Scarlet night setting, place where Innaminot is sealed, and Heldalf has 3 pure human sacrifices at hand, just like Artorius, when Inno got awakened.
This is so hilarious, that if Ufotable will pull this shit, I'll never touch their adaptations ever again.
I want to be used as Magilou's boredom relief.
>local upstart Lord of Calamity wakes up the Lord of Calamity
>she punches him so hard he explodes into orbit
>"coo coo."
>goes back to sleep
Is Velvet is best girl in Zestiria?
>>154775834
In other words they're using the locations but effectively forgoing all reasoning as to why they're important, resulting in superficial references.
Isn't next week the finale?
>>154776054
Yup
>>154773448
Thank God, he suffered enough. About time someone else took the burden
>>154774059
>No Zaveid
Why
>>154776170
They didn't let him into the restaurant without a shirt.
>>154776206
I guess that makes sense
>>154773397
>tfw I have to wear the hat now.jpg
>>154776170
Because they need Sorey and Mikleo to advertise the anime because Nips refuse to buy anything with Alisha's face on it. And Ludger is a popular character.
>>154776047
Exactly.
In game Heldalf took as his base Empyrean Throne, which is Earthpulse point as well.
In Berseria the party used Mt.Killaraus, because Artorius was using the Empyrean Throne.
Now anime goes with Berseria, what is retarded, because this place isn't supposed to be full of Malevolence.
>But there's a bait
Heavenly Steppes (aka EX-Dungeon in Berseria) was full of malevolence and dragons.
And it also was a way toward the Heavenly Realm of ancient Seraphims.
If that's the source of Malevolence, we may be introduced to 3'rd game just like some people predicted.
>>154776272
cant say i blame them, alisha is shit
>>154776170
It's a White Day thing. Girls send the cafe chocolates, they talley the chocolates and the top 5 get special illustrations to thank the girls for their enthusiasm.
This years winners were Tohsaka Tokiomi, Kayneth El-Melloi Archibald tied with Gilgamesh, Sorey, and Mikleo tied with Ludger. That's why they have illustrations.
>>154776276
But then there's the problem of the characters knowing jack shit about the heavenly realm. Also in Berseria there o outright tell you that Malevolence is natural to their world the only thing that isn't are the negatives effects it has to the denizens of the world and the environment, there is a way to solve it, which the game implies is Sorey and Mikleo achieving their dream, not attacking the heavenly seraphim.
Hoverhanding Rose's tits.
>>154776456
Zui Fuu
>>154775834
And people in these threads have said they wish they adapted berseria. They would totally bastardize it even though it's source didn't need fixing.
The village , the red moon , the inn , the scene
that was totally like Berseria , I finished berseria just 2 days ago so this ep made me so happy
I wonder what was the point of sorey meeting velvet tho , maybe just fan service
No one care grimoire is here lol
Also R.I.P Dezel i hopped they would keep him alive but nope , he's just like lance
>>154776784
There is no way to fit Berseria into 24 episodes anyway.
>>154776784
If it means I get more Velvet its all good.
>>154776016
That's Magilou
>>154776436
>Sorey, and Mikleo tied with Ludger.
I wonder how tales fest will go
>>154776819
I care about Grimoir. Not my fault everyone else has shit taste tho.
>>154776272
It's funny, the va event they had a few weeks ago didn't mention Alisha in the summary at all. It was Sorey, Mikleo, Rose and Lailah.
>>154776819
It's all a set up for a third game.
>>154776784
Well people who wish to eat shit, and those who are hopeful to the point of delusion do exist.
I wonder what happened to Bienfu
>>154777033
Died with Magilou presumably.
>>154776960
Of course not, even the anime's website doesn't name Alisha in the story's description and she she got third billing. Alishafags may be loud and violent but they're also jobless NEETs.
>>154776864
You're late to the party if you never realized that.
>>154777161
Explains why this still flopped despite pandering to Alishas meme popularity and falseflagging fujos with tons of merch
>Alisha appeared for 10 seconds today
>still butthurt about Alisha in every post
Are you faggots masochistic or something? Do you love being mad so much?
I want Dezel to sit in front of me after a shower while he's wearing nothing but a towel around his waist and let me comb his wet hair. The strands would be soft and silky even though they're still wet and after that I could lean down and wrap my arms around his neck, sliding my hands across his damp tanned skin, feeling up the supple tightness of his shoulder muscles from behind and kissing the top of his head, not minding if i get wet from his still-damp hair. He would scold me for being reckless but it's far more important to kiss him now, in this exact moment than worrying about getting a little wet.
when the fuck is berseria anime coming ive been waitin for like 3 weeks
I feel like this was an episode that was trying to show Zestiria's importance and it's to Berseria, but like every other attempt, failed at doing so
It' trying so hard to make people like Zestiria because it's related to Berseria by throwing in the Bears characaters. settings, and what happened in the story, as if by showing off Berseria stuff that people will like the anime now
It doesn't work, and if it doesn't work, then time is wasted, like most of this anime
Dezel dies as he does in the game
But this death was made just as much sense it did in the game
Dezel AGAIN dies for no reason
Both in the game and anime his death is a cheap tactic to try and make people care about his character, but you killing off a character we don't get to know that well or have much development doesn't do anything
why don't they understand this?
Also it makes no sense that by Dezel "giving his all(?)" could purify and take out all the dragons unless maybe he used the gun off screen, but speculation doesn't make up for poor writing
to sum up:
Bears relevance in no way can save in this anime or anything Zestiria related
Dezel died and no one cares again because it made no sense again
What the fuck did Dezel do? Became the wind or whatever and purified all the dragons?
What is this bullshit, why do they keep pulling shit outta their asses?
look at that scrub sleeping.
i'm the real mc of this show
>>154777649
>S-stop posting what I don't like ree
Why do you care? It's still on topic and people can use the thread to fellate or talk shit about the anime, Alisha included.
It all ends next week anyway, then these threads won't exist at all
This never gets old does it?
>>154778166
I'm kinda bummed Sorey didn't give an answer, but more Velvet is always welcome.
>>154777890
Actually in the game when he dies you've had him in the party for a while, and the characters actually talked to one another, to the point where if you sleep in Lastonbell you'll get a skit where you find out that Dezel has started teaching Mikleo how to read the wind. And after he dies the party is legitimately upset about it, and mourns his death.
They cared about Dezel's death in the game.
---
The reason why the anime has fallen short is effectively because they wasted time doing everything else expect spending time on the seraphim and Sorey at all. So becaue of that Sorey and Mikleo have no story, Michael was erased and so was Lailah's past, Eizen has been forgotten and with him Edna and Zaveid, and Dezel's story completely erased.
If the anime wanted to make more references to Berseria the irony is that they'd have had to do the opposite of what it's been doing thus far. It'd have to focus more on Sorey and the seraphim characters, and actually lessen Alisha's screen time.
>>154778166
At least Velvet answered it immediately.
>>154778166
>hey, you know what The X lacks?
>some arc words! Let's use that one from Berseria, the "why birds fly" thingy. People will love it.
I hope whoever is in charge of shoehorning Berseria into Zestiria never touches an anime ever again.
>>154778166
>"muffled ARTORIUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUS in the distance*
>>154778166
For some reason it reminds me to this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9U9TVJdkUPs
>>154778295
>the irony of this post
The person who wrote the story for The X is the president of Ufotable.
>>154778166
Why did the chicken cross the road, Sorey?
>>154778441
I also thought of this. Made playing Berseria much more entertaining.
>>154778411
I think the blame lies more on Bandai-Namco trying too hard to sell Berseria than on UFO. The funny thing is, I freaking loved the game. I just hate how hard they are shilling it through The X
>>154778540
Well fun fact no one from the Tales team is actually working on this anime, and Bamco's own website for Berseria literally says that only episodes 5&6 of the first season are the only ones that are relevant to Berseria. Bamco has also been ignoring all of the anime's changes, so I have to wonder just how much effect Bamco really has over this anime.
>>154778540
they want to make sure berseria is on everyones mind after zestiria ends so they can have you watching velvets story :')
Why couldn't Dezel take the hat together with him to heaven or something?
It looks terrible on both Zaveid and Rose.
>>154778540
They failed, but I can't blame them for trying to put a good thing inside a bad one.
>>154778166
>Completely spoiling the answer that Velvet takes the entire game to arrive at
So this another example of the manga being vastly superior than the anime?
http://pastebin.com/wRcC4Erk
>>154778818
They have been spoiling Berseria left and right
Thank god the game was translated before the anime got there
Has Maotelus/Laphicet being corrupted been mentioned at all as of yet? I don't remember.
After all the Berseria references they've made and even going out of their way to mention Innominat and his suppression of emotions. I find hard to believe they would so at the expense of neglecting to mention the one character from Berseria that has the most impact on Zestiria's story.
I'll be very surprised if Ufotable doesn't end this with a cliffhanger for another season next episode as ridiculous as that might sound. Especially considering Eizen's fate in the anime is still in the air.
>>154778818
Why does she even need to tell him anything it's not like Anime Sorey ever doubts himself.
>>154778877
Well some off it's a spoiler the other half is them just simply making pointless references to it.
>>154778893
>giving Ufotable the benefit of the boubt
haven't you learned your lesson yet?
>>154778166
I still don't understand what this question is supposed to mean
>>154779063
2deep4u
>>154772730
> Who's this?
>> I dunno
> What's he doing here?
>> Beats me
> well help me heave this thing out of the way
1000 years later
It is time for sorey and velvet crowe to wake up
Velvet gets a giant robot
Sorey becomes the newtype
Together they solve malevolence
The Wind feels warm, today.
Velvet Crowe
>Eizen plot point left unresolved again
O-Okay.
>>154779444
On the bright side, if they do spare 5 seconds to purify him in the last episode, we know he won't turn to dust.
>>154779353
pl̕͘͞ea̡se͝͝ ͘k̶i̧͝ll̡ ̀́me̸͜͠
>>154779353
birds
>>154779495
I just want to see Edna and Eizen hug.
>>154779688
>>154779671
>"Sorey and Velvet's paths will cross
>everyone thinks there'll be another game to properly conclude the story
>yfw they actually meant the impending OC ending of this clusterfuck of an anime
>>154777224
>Cless without headband
What the fuck.
>>154774867
Grimoir gives me the strangest boner.
Normin arnt supposed to be attractive.
>>154776784
Difference is that Berseria wouldnt need bastardising to make it in any way servicable like ToZ did.
>>154777033
Do you think that Magilou would have allowed him to continue living once she herself died?
So what happened to Symone?
>>154780024
Zestiria became shitty because it's story got bastardized by Baba deciding to alter a character's personality to suit his waifu, Ufotable just decided that Baba didn't do a good enough job fucking shit up so they decided to show who the real waifufags were.
18 minutes of filler in the episode before the finale, and Edna gets less than 15 seconds of voicing in the episode.
this is bullshit.
>>154780391
I don't know why people are singling out Alisha when the anime has cocksucked Rose nearly as much with screentime. It might as well be called the lesbian adventures of Princess Alisha and her Assassin fuckbuddy.
>>154780471
>lesbian adventures of Princess Alisha and her Assassin fuckbuddy.
Sounds like a masterpiece in the making
>>154777969
Because it's hilarious to see you guys sperg about Alisha in every thread.
>>154780207
UFOtable have done nothing worse than what Baba has already done.
You cant polish a turd.
>>154776864
Ludger really didn't deserve the ending he got.
>>154780570
They did exactly what he did to fuck shit up to begin with
I feel so sorry for Yamamoto.
Writes Rose.
>I want Rose to be a character that act as Sorey's foil butting heads with him and everyone in the group challenging their world views and causing his views to change while also having hers being changed by their influence as well.
Baba
>Rose should be perfect in every way possible!!
---
On Alisha
Yamamoto
>A normalfag, we can't all be heroes, and there's nothing wrong with that.
Ufotable
>She's the best waifu evar!!!
Rose and Alisha were mistakes. The game AND the anime would of been better off if those two didn't exist. I'll never not believe this. Both of them are shallow ass characters with legions of waifufags in high places making cancer as it goes on.
Is the new orchestra album uploaded anywhere? I wanna hear yume de aru youni
So are we getting a Berseria sequel with Velvet and Sorey since we basically saw her here?
>>154780471
Well because most of the of the changes were for Alisha's benefit and nobody else. Sorey doesn't need Alisha to move his story forward and Rose sure as hell didn't need her either. There's also been way more cuck sucking for Alisha than there was for Rose since season 1 mostly consisted of Rose fucking up and being made Alisha's bitch. Let's not forget that 99% of Alisha's screen time consists of her doing fuck all.
The problem with Rose in the anime is that her story took too long to tell, the problem with Alisha is Alisha.
Though the story for Zestiria doesn't really need either character to be honest it'd better off without them. They're equally shit characters.
>>154780864
memerseria is not getting another game thats for sure, underperformed in both japan and the west.
REMOVE ALISHA
>>154780937
is tales as a series dead then?
KEEP ALISHA
>>154781105
About as dead as Final Fantasy was after FFXIII.
>>154781132
Remove Alisha and replace her with Sergei.
>>154781105
No, some games do better than others. Thats normal for any franchise.
>>154781105
No, Berseria saved the reputation and Baba is gone, so it's good.
>>154780990
>>154781132
Put Alisha and Rose in their own adventure show
So we're in Meichiro, the Scarlet Moon appeared, Velvet got mentioned a lot, and she appeared in a dream
She's returning isn't she?
>>154781252
I'll take this. I'd love to see more Alisha.
>>154781252
I don't think that anyone has any money to waste on a venture that they know by know will fail just like everything she stars in.
>Alisha got her own manga which focuses solely on her
>it flopped so hard that the second volume is already out of print despite coming out last summer.
>got an anime focusing on her
>flops just as hard as her manga to the point that Ufotable has to resort to advertise it solely using Sorey and Mikleo in hopes of making money.
>got merchandise
>no one buys it again Ufotable is forced to use Sorey, Mikleo and Edna to sell some merch.
Everything with Alisha's face on it is bound for failure.
>>154773424
Of course.
In the game it was his own fault for his suffering.
>>154781387
She's in the Empyrian's throne with Innominat on the other side of the continent, unless UFO bullshits her being in Mount Doom.
>>154781387
ZEPPAN MESHOGEKI
>people keep saying alisha is flopping
nice maymays boys
>>154781505
I'll just become a millionaire and fund my own Alisha show.
>>154781561
That's what I find hilariously ironic about this anime.
>Changes the location of the final battle in the anime to reference a dungeon in Berseria. But the actual final dungeon of Zestiria actually has better references.
>>154775834
Innominat and Velvet are in fucking space though.
>>154781637
>First season of the anime barely sold 3K
>her manga didn't sell well
>her merchandise doesn't sell well to the point that they don't even bother making it at all, even Rose has merchandise
>A-Alisha is flopping is just a meme guys.
Can anyone be more delusional?
>>154781686
And then lose all your money in the venture, such is the fate of those who support the waifu of financial failure.
>>154776864
>#7
Why is Collete a boy?
>>154780937
It only "underperformed" due to ill feelings left by ToZ.
It reveiewed really well and is recognised as being one of the best Tales of games for a while
>>154781851
I think you mean number #26 anon.
>>154781637
It's really easy to tell that it's mostly one anon bitching about Alisha.
>>154781920
Still nowhere near Xillia/Xillia 2. Not being panned as hard as Zestiria doesnt mean the game was liked or good.
>>154781945
A lot of people were bitching about her during the week too (though Alishafags kept grouping everyone who expressed their dislike for the character into one and called them Baba everytime someone expressed the fact that they weren't too fond of her).
>>154781387
And what if she awake? Would Sorey try to purify her?
It won't end well for him
>>154782119
Baba pls go.
>>154780107
Purified
Siegfired reverted her Dragon form to Seraph just like it did in the game when Sorey used it on Heldalf to break his armatization with Maotelus
>>154782204
W-wait so it's confirmed Sorey can turn fucking dragons back into seraphs? Why save Symonne?
Did they kill Eizen or did they forget him?
>>154782332
They forgot him
>>154782279
Siegfried can, not Sorey
>>154782343
Fucking ufotable. What even is this anime planning.
>>154782376
We might get a return of Velvet
>>154782332
They put him on hold and went to Heldalf instead. The manga did that too.
>>154782142
The biggest worry is who she's sleeping with, and what she is.
I don't want Velvet to come back in the anime because it wouldn't make sense but at same time i want to see Sorey and Velvet meeting
>>154782279
They bullshitted a reason for why it happens in the anime.
Ironically Berseria explains how Siegfried stops the production of malevolence, which makes purification possible, using special bullets.
The bullets are very clearly the seraphs themselves, which explains why they don't get corrupted when shot into Liondragon in Zestys final battle.
>>154782445
Not it didn't in the manga Sorey simply didn't find a way to turn Eizen back, so he chose not to kill him.
>>154782406
It won't make sense.
>>154782445
To be fair the manga is a better adaptation than the anime. Even revealed Sorey's daddy.
>>154782449
She is sleeping with Innomant reincarnated into her brother, they are both devouring each other Malevolence
>>154782519
Same thing, Eizen is just left on the mountain until later.
>>154782493
>The bullets are very clearly the seraphs themselves, which explains why they don't get corrupted when shot into Liondragon in Zestys final battle.
They aren't, they were only shot into the armatized form of Hedalf and Apple dragon in order to severe their bonds of armatus, which Siegfried can when in the hands of a shepherd and without the bullets. Apple Dragon is always a dragon.
>>154782605
Yeah but all dragons/corrupted dragons produce malevolence, which we do know about. Except Innominat but he's a weird creep.
>>154782597
It isn't, in the anime they can save him but don't, because, fuck it. In the manga Sorey couldn't find a way to save him, but simply decided that instead of kill him.
>>154782561
>To be fair the manga is a better adaptation than the anime. Even revealed Sorey's daddy.
I did more than that.
It revealed Sore's daddy.
Called Lailah out on her bullshit.
Removed Rose ass kissing scenes.
Fixed Dezel's past so that it was more coherent.
Better explained Michael's story.
Had Sorey act as a MC should the whole way through.
It was better in every aspect.
>>154782745
Not Apple Dragon,he's not made of malevolence at all, because he's an Emperyon, he's special anon.
>>154782577
Exactly so wouldn't it be a problem to wake her up?
>>154782764
>choose not to deal with Eizen right now because there is no time
>choose not to deal with Eizen right now because they can't
It's basically the same shit.
>>154782841
Innominat is the problem.
>>154782941
why?
>>154782764
I know that, but I was mentioning the first thing that came to me. Symonne was also behind Forton right?
>>154782796
I think he meant when he's corrupted, because the bad ending is about Corrupted Maotelus killing everyone.
Everyone knows Empyreans are dragons, but it's distinct from being a corrupted dragon.
>>154783021
>I know that, but I was mentioning the first thing that came to me. Symonne was also behind Forton right?
Yup, she was the game implies that she was behind Forton there too, but never outright says it.
>>154782982
The whole turning humans into emotionless robots and being the leading cause of civilizations to collapse.
>>154782982
He's an evil psycho who will try to REASON the whole world and devour Velvet completely. Killing him kills Velvet and Maotelus.
>>154782982
Because he devours the source of malevolence for breakfast with his Domain, Humans emotions and free will.
If you enter his Domain you would turn into a soulles zombie
>>154782982
They would need an asspull of a century to deal with Innominat. He's a god that nobody can actually kill, he would have gone nuclear if velvet didn't stunlock him for eternity.
>>154783081
>>154783085
I never get why Velvet would die because of this, Velvet wasnt sure in the end of game if killing or eating innominat would result in killing her or the therions..
>>154783135
sounds not bad at all.
>>154783189
cant them just try to change his mind?
>>154783021
>I think he meant when he's corrupted, because the bad ending is about Corrupted Maotelus killing everyone.
>Everyone knows Empyreans are dragons, but it's distinct from being a corrupted dragon.
But Maotelus was still aware of himself enough to actually guide Sorey into saving him, but he still negatively effected the world because he was still a hellion at the end of the day.
>>154782938
It isn't the context is different.
In the manga they don't save Eizen becuase they have no means to do it, and their only their only choice available would be a kill him, which defeats the purpose of saving him. So they don't kill him.
While in the anime, they simply don't kill him because they don't want to.
Guys, why is Alisha so pretty?
>>154783359
stupid question but..
Is Maotelus Innominat? (according with the ending of berseria looks like it's.)
>>154783359
And by the bad end he's degraded into a mindless monster. That's why it's the bad end.
>>154783081
>>154783085
>>154783135
>>154783189
>implying anime Sorey won't find a way to make him a good guy forever with the power of friendship
>>154783435
It's Phi
>>154783283
Because Therions are Innominat's seven other heads, with shota as the main 8th.
>>154783426
Because she got the best character design of the game.
>>154783359
>>154783194
You're making it sound like they just went "welp, fuck that guy just leave him be". They deliberately skipped it because they didn't have the time to purify him and sleep the malevolence off for another week before going to Heldalf.
>>154782044
As far as I know it sold decently enough and had really good word of mounth.
>>154783476
But the another Empyrians said that without innominat (Velvet's brother, who is in a stalled state) the balance would collapse), then they would need a new Empyrian, and Phi was choose because he's a part of innominat.
I assume that Phi became innominat on this case. Maybe i'm wrong.
>>154783592
And that's true.
>>154783435
He's a part of Innominat
>>154783438
Yeah, and in the good ending you save him before that happens, but effectively he's not really a dragon despite normally having the form of one. Effectively he's just like the other seraphim that you save through out the game.
>>154783576
But here's the thing, they don't know if they're going to come back, and considering how Sorey was able to one shot dragons so easily in the last two episodes your excuse has dried up.
>>154783609
>I assume that Phi became innominat on this case. Maybe i'm wrong.
He's not Innominat he's still Phi, whose a part of Innominat.
>>154783502
Alisha's hair is really stupid and her hot pants seem like they're trying too hard to make her attractive.
>>154783475
The way I figured this thing would end was for Heldalf to try to awaken Innominat and succeed before Sorey can stop him, only to realize he also woke up a really cranky Velvet.
Has this even explained that Baby Mikey got shanked yet?
Is Michael going to get away with it?
>>154783741
I chalk that up to the CG team not knowing what the fuck they're doing and making the combat scenes needlessly flashy and explody because it looked like he killed them but he actually didn't. Even this episode Dezel said he only purified the one in Ladylake.
>>154783925
Everything regarding Sorey and Mikleo's past, has been erased in this anime.
>>154783925
Michael did nothing wrong!
>>154783502
Alisha is VERY cute!
>>154783831
This, her hair is stupid as fuck and her hot pants do not match the rest of her outfit.
>>154783925
Sorey and Mikleo don't matter.
Next week, Sorey might not even go to sleep and come back to fuck Mikleo. Hopefully he'll just die.
>>154784484
>Sorey dies
>Velvet is the only main character of the next game
>Spends the entire game traveling with Edna as her new companion
I would laugh so hard
>>154784484
Anime Sorey is an inferior husbando, Mikleo would be wasted on him.
>>154784021
Fuck you Micheal, what dipshit settles a village right in between warring countries?
>>154777224
>Richard
Neat
>>154784700
Berseria actually explained why, it's because Artorius's throne is really the Empyeyon's throne which would make it much easier to spread Maotelu's blessing, certainly easier than using Mount Kilarious.
>>154776864
>people actually voting for assbel
What the FUCK
>>154772273
I LOVE ALISHA!!!!
>>154783283
>sounds not bad at all.
Are you Artorius?
>cant them just try to change his mind?
He can only think about devouring, the other Empyreans had to seal him or he would have most likely eaten them too
Rose reaction faces are the only reason to watch this show.
>>154786027
>it's a Berseria references episode
Loved it.
>>154786393
>Grimoirh is the only voiced Berseria character to appear besides Velvet.
Kind of cool because I expected no one but kind of sad because I wanted more.
>>154783831
>>154784440
Even her character designer is aware her hair is retarded he tries to draw it more realistically.
>>154784804
More than half votes are from females.
>>154786508
It's not just her hair though, it's her whole design, it really stands out in a bad way when she's around the other knights. To be honest she ends up not looking like a knight at all.
>>154778893
Eizen will be purified offscreen and he'll appear briefly in the credits. Bet on it.
i was just going to come here to see if people are still buttflustered about alisha
yep, fujos still on the loose being bitches
Hedalf better not wake up Velvet, she would consume him
>>154786508
>her suit comes with a helmet
>Instead of using it she wears the arguably most useless parts of her armor instead of the chestpiece, helmet and any finger protection.
I want to Alisha in glorious full plate on her white steed riding into battle with a spear of lightning like a Valkyrie.
>>154786508
That's just Alisha without doing her hair enough.
What's your honest opinion about this witch
>>154786808
That would require Sorey not going to sleep and completely changing the ending, but at this point I wouldn't be surprised.
>>154787287
Because without her pretty face and Zettai Ryouki then waifufags won't give a rat's ass about her.
>>154787372
Carried most of the game for me. Would have been better if she had cowtits.
>>154787483
Heresy
So how the fuck are they going to end this in one episode?
>>154787462
But gap moe. She can be a cool knight during battle and be a cute girl when they aren't fighting and just wear her casual black clothes.
>>154787557
Gap moe isn't just about how one, looks it's also about how they act. And Alishafags don't like Gap Moe Alisha. They prefer her to be the boring masculine(she actually speaks in a masculine manner) princess who can do everything right.
>>154787691
>manly knight when she's working
>girly princess when needs to be
Works just fine with her I'd say.
>>154787949
It didn't work for Rose, and it wouldn't work for her. Alisha as a character is just too boring for people to care about her if she isn't acting as walking fanservice.
>No Camlann backstory
>No Gramps death
>Dezel's death is dumber than before
>Heldalf is a literal who
>Sorey's dream about coexistence doesn't even exist
>Seraphs don't even exist
>Eizen will be cast off into the void
People will defend this
so what happens after the next episode? they come back later this year with berseria or what?
>>154788104
Nothing. It's over.
>>154788104
Only 2cour for the anime was ever planned, and considering how much Ufotable bastardized Beseria's world building do you really want them to touch it?
>>154773339
Please no not again
Rose is dogshit.
>>154788555
Rose is cute
>>154776864
>Yuri still banned from popularity polls because he always wins first place
Fucking Bamco lol. I wouldn't be surprised if this was a Baba initiative considering he had nothing to do with Vesperia.
>>154788091
>No Camlann backstory
The infodump can still be done somewhere else. Just have Heldalf explain how and why he was cursed, it'll lack impact though. I get why Heldalf is going there but moving the final fight from Artorius Throne to Mount Killaraus was a dumb move.
>No Gramps death
Doesn't really matter too much. Can still happen next episode.
>Dezel's death is dumber than before
Dying opening the way for your comrades is way better than dying like a bitch.
>Heldalf is a literal who
Yeah, not explaining his backstory bit by bit as the show goes on so was a mistake. Now they have to cram it all in 5 minutes.
>Sorey's dream about coexistence doesn't even exist
Yes it does.
>Seraphs don't even exist
You mean other Seraphim besides the main cast? They do but they are not relevant so there is no point in wasting already limited screentime on them.
>Eizen will be cast off into the void
Probably, but I still expect them to change the ending a bit. Like a world wide purification flame and we see Eizen going back to normal without the party having to go where he is.
>>154776864
>Ludger still in first place in spite of Babazinga terrorizing Okomura and twisting the writing team's arm to make the character sufffer.
like pottery
>>154788091
I only defend the animation and OST. The story's trash.
>>154781637
It's the one autistic Rosefag from last week that was autistic screeching about how "purifying was actually killing the dragons, so this retcon doesn't mean anything".
It's straight up psychotic the mental gymnastics this guy is pulling to protect his fictional characters bullshit. Or maybe it really is Baba that's shitposting.
>>154788720
Not that anon but
>The infodump can still be done somewhere else.
There's only one episode left anon, expecting any level of infodumping or anything related to Camlann at this point is just delusional. They erased the erased the plotline period.
>Doesn't really matter too much. Can still happen next episode.
They're literally halfway across the world, it's not happening anon.
>Dying opening the way for your comrades is way better than dying like a bitch.
And Dezel wasn't around long enough for anyone to care about him or his sacrifice. At least in the game he died saving someone and the characters actually stopped to mourn his passing.
>Yeah, not explaining his backstory bit by bit as the show goes on so was a mistake. Now they have to cram it all in 5 minutes.
With the way how the anime has been going don't hold your breath on it.
>Yes it does.
No it doesn't, Sorey mentioned in one episode then never again, and has also never given it any thought and the anime not allowing him to speak to any seraphim has also lowered the importance of it. It might as well not exist at all.
>You mean other Seraphim besides the main cast?
You mean the same ones who sit around in the background do nothing and barely speak? They might as well not exist at all.
>Probably, but I still expect them to change the ending a bit.
Again one episode left anon, your hopes are all delusion at this point.
>>154788888
And yet people like
>>154789056
and >>154788720
are delusional enough to think that the anime is great.
>>154789124
>people like a thing I don't, therefore they are delusional
Who let /v/ out of their containment board?
>>154787483
Where can I find the other scans?
It's weird seeing Magilou with breasts that big.
>>154789124
I don't care because I myself am one of the few people defending Hand Shakers, so I can understand people defending this. Still, I myself honestly and unironically care more about fucking Hand Shaker's cast than I do about Zestiria's, so there's clearly something wrong with how the show was handled in the story and character department.
It's not like I blame Ufo either. At least 90% of game adaptations to anime are shit, no matter the studio
>>154789179
>people who don't like the thing that I do are wrong?
Don't you have to be over 18 to post here.
>>154789359
>this complete lack self-awareness
>>154789435
>gets upset about someone expressing a different opinion.
>then complains about lack of self awareness
Anon...
>>154789059
>expecting any level of infodumping or anything related to Camlann at this point is just delusional
Is it? Oh yeah Sorey I was cursed by this guy from this village, he was the previous Shepherd and he did this and that. Won't take long.
>They're literally halfway across the world, it's not happening anon.
Zenrus is one of the oldest and most powerful Seraphim, I wouldn't be surprised if he could get there in time. The distance is irrelevant, the reason to go there is what matters the most. I don't see Zenrus leaving Elysia but again like I said, it doesn't really matter too much if it happens or not.
>And Dezel wasn't around long enough for anyone to care about him or his sacrifice
Your opinion. I don't see it that way.
>No it doesn't
It was literally mentioned in this episode again.
>They might as well not exist at all.
They might don't do much but they are still there. Their powers have been useful from time to time.
>your hopes are all delusion at this point
Not really. There is a reason why the final fight was changed to Mount Killaraus. That place is not just any random Earth Pulse, but one of the two ideal spots to throw stuff into the veins of the world to make it go everywhere. Heldalf is probably going to throw Malevolence there to make it flow everywhere and fuck up the world beyond recovery, be stopped by Sorey and he will use it to spread purification instead.
>>154789620
You're the one who called them delusional for liking a defending what you don't like
So, I'll return your post to you
>people who like the thing that I don't are wrong?
Don't you have to be over 18 to post here.
>>154789620
>everyone who doesn't hate this show like me is delusional!
>everyone who even enjoys this show is a filthy waifufag!
>I'm only expressing my opinion!
Anon you might be autistic.
I think this show is boring and average with some rare fun bits but there's no reason to get this assblasted over it every week.
>>154789656
>Is it? Oh yeah Sorey I was cursed by this guy from this village, he was the previous Shepherd and he did this and that. Won't take long.
Considering the fact that this is Ufotable I doubt it. The episode is only going to be at most 25 minutes you know?
>Zenrus is one of the oldest and most powerful Seraphim, I wouldn't be surprised if he could get there in time.
Literally how? the man can't fly.
>Your opinion. I don't see it that way.
Well good for but I disagree.
>It was literally mentioned in this episode again.
But the idea has also been ignored for 99% of the series. Sorey was more focused on the war and Alisha than on his own personal goals.
>They might don't do much but they are still there.
That's exactly the problem, they're just there, not doing much of anything besides being color coded powers for Sorey and now Alisha and Rose to use.
>Not really. There is a reason why the final fight was changed to Mount Killaraus.
Yeah because it's a reference to Berseria, and a pointless one might I add, since the best place to do that is really Emperyon's throne aka the Throne of Artorius. The cast outright tell you that using Mt. Killaraus is actually inconvenient for them, because it's like trying sale a boat upsteam. They just used it because they had no choice.
>>154789798
Except you never defended anything.
>>154790056
>gets upset about people not liking the show that he likes
>gets called out on it
y-you must be autistic.
Anon projecting isn't good for you.
So how are they going to end this?
>>154790706
Velvet and Eizen return and they announce Berseria 2
>>154790507
>Literally how? the man can't fly.
Didn't he do the same whirlwiind flying thing Zaveid does?
>>154787541
Badly.
>>154789620
>I am the main character of the world, therefore I'm allowed to call people delusional and be immune to any criticism
Maybe you could try pulling your head out of your ass
>>154790594
>y-you're just upset!
Who's the fag who constantly harps on anyone who likes the show and always pretends he's better and smarter than everyone else and keeps lecturing the same points over and over because surely everyone who knows as much as you about the great Zestiria must have the same opinion as you, right? Everyone else is just a dumb subhuman waifufag, right?
You're the most obnoxious poster in these threads.
>>154790870
>Berseria 2
>Magilou dead
>Eleanor dead
>Rokurou maybe dead
>Eizen really died in Zestiria
it's not the same
>>154791232
>>Magilou
Alive via magic bullshit.
>>Eleanor
Dead
>>Rokurou
loldeamon
>>Eizen
Retconned back in.
>>154791366
You visit Magilou's grave in Zestiria. She's gone.
> Lore dump in second to last episode
I love this anime. It's like a train wreck that keeps on giving.
>>154790920
He jumped in his own domain.
>>154791166
>Who's the fag who constantly harps on anyone who likes the show and always pretends he's better and smarter than everyone else
You? In fact you're doing it right now. Multiple people are on this thread anon, and multiple people have expressed their dislike for the anime. It's not just one person, but if you have to cry "samefag!" to feel better about yourself then that's your prerogative.
how is the symphonia anime? finished that game like a week ago
>>154792198
Zenrus or Zaveid. I'm not sure how it works, but aren't they both wind malaks?
I want Velvet to rape sorey while mikleo watches
>>154791422
It never specifically says it's Magilou. Just a Mayvin that liked poetry. They could just as well gloss over it and not give a fuck about the quest. Same way they've been retconing everything.
>>154792711
Cute grills are incapable of rape.
God, is anyone else just fucking tired of Zestiria's world?
We've gotten so much of it that I'm just over it. I want a new Tales game to get far away as possible from this shitty pointless world.
>>154792760
Are you sure?
>>154792624
Zenrus isn't a wind seraph he's a Lord similar to one of the four Emperyons. The ends of a seraphim's hair tells you their element, Zenrus's is white.
>>154792855
If at any point during your physical abuse you feel some kind of sexual pleasure, that automatically and retroactively applies as consent therefore not rape.
>>154792977
Isn't he lightning?
Zeus and all that jazz.
>>154793010
He's mentioned as being as being pretty damn ancient and important so I think that he's a bit more important than that. Since they called him a lord.
>>154792711
Wouldn't she be more likely to rape Mikleo at this point?
>>154793070
Lightning seems pretty special and important to me.
I thought Phi was kind of lightning themed too.
>>154787483
>spell absorber
>>154793113
She'd probably adopt Mikleo as her new otouto
>>154792790
Berseria made me tolerate it. I'm thankful that Baba went full retard producing Zestiria, since now they found a new producer that isn't a bumbling fucking idiot.
>>154793070
yeah I remember him being mentioned in Berseria as being an ancient Seraph
>>154793260
This is what happened to me. Berseria completely turned Zestiria's world around for me, and made me want more of it.
Where Zestiria made me wish it never had existed.
>>154793162
Maybe, the seraphim who know of him treat him with the same reverence that they do to Maotelus.
>>154793240
What's the difference?
>>154793006
lol no
>>154792790
I actually want more of it. There is still so much unexplored. Some of the islands descriptions from the sailing minigame were cool as fuck, made me wish we could travel to them. The Seraph realm is completely unexplored too.
>Eizen is Earth/Wind
>Zenrus is(presumably) Wind/Water(combination for lightning spells).
>every other Malak in Zestiria was bound one element
Does this make Eizen a significantly greater Seraph? Phi could use spells from every element, right?
>>154793349
He'd probably be a temp replacement, and then cuck him the same way Phi was at the end of Berseria.
>>154793443
Eizen is Earth you can tell it by looking at the ends of his hair, Zenrus is like Phi. Seraphim can change everyhing about their looks expect for their hair color because that tells you the nature of their element.
>>154793391
Lol yes
> B-but what if I don't willingly want to have sex with velvet
Then you are a woman and not even a good one at that.
>>154793443
Eizen is Earth, but due to his way of thinking he wasn't going to let some predefined affinity tell him how to live his life so he practiced other elements too. Water didn't go so well though.
>>154793487
But at least Mikleo would know how it feels to lust after a superior Onee-chan.
>>154793594
This. To imply that Velvet could rape anyone is to imply that there can exist a person who wouldn't consent to sex with her.
>>154793539
What element is Seres, then?
>>154793607
Actually it has nothing to do with Eizen's way of thinking, he's just powerful. Zestiria explains it, seraphim that are powerful know more than one element, that's why the other seraphim teach Mikleo how to use their elements the game.
>>154793691
She's like Innominat, and Zenrus, has no real affinity with any element. She's actually not a fire seraph.
>>154793741
Oh, makes sense, I guess.
>>154779063
Its a matter of purpose. Logic vs emotion. Duty vs free will. That sort of thing.
>>154793773
Yeah the ends of her hair actually give away what she is. Its actually a neat way to hide what she really is. Anyone looking at her would first think that she's a fire seraph but it's just the ends of her hair that matters.
Mikleo has blue at the ends of his hair becuase he's a water malak
Edna and Eizen have yellow because they're Earth.
Dezel and Zaveid have green because they're wind
Lailah has read because she's fire
and Symonne has purple/black because she's void.
>>154772273
Who ever made it that Alicia couldn't be one of the messiahs in the game made a big mistake
>>154793240
Where's my cute spinoff of Velvet being a kindergarten/daycare teacher and the Berseria and Zestiria people being toddlers and kindergarteners?
>Sorey, Mik, Edna, Alisha, Rose, Dezel, Laphi and Phi are the kids
>Phi is the smallest, can barely walk and talk. Only here because Seres is busy and Velvet brings him along when she goes to work.
>Dezel looks and acts like the oldest but he's not
>Edna is the oldest of the kids but looks like one of the younger ones
>Zaveid and Theodora are the owners
>Rokurou, Magilou and Eleanor are teen part-timers
>Rokurou is only here because he's a delinquent and got caught doing something and this is his punishment
>Eizen is regular staff, in charge of management but also sometimes watches the kids.
>he always ends up telling the kids stuff they understand get so Zaveid keeps him away from them when he can.
>Aifread and Benwick are the boss and lieutenant of a nearby shady alleyway gang which Eizen is secretly part of and has made a deal with so they watch the roads and make sure no kid runs out into the streets and brings anyone who gets lost back
>Artorius is the businessowner dad and doesn't like it that Velvet is letting Phi be around so many rambunctious bratty kids because they could be a bad influence.
>Heldalf is the "bad guy" who wants to close that place down because he wants them all to come to his grade school prep kindergarten where everyone needs to be quiet and learn and Artorius wants to send Phi there instead.
Xillia would've had a better anime
>>154776864
Damn. Didn't know that Tales fans were 99% gay
>>154773804
He didn't die in-game, not even in the DLC.
>>154793443
Yes, everyone in your party is one.
>>154794186
Oh fuck I forgot Lailah
She's the cook.
And Symmone is one of the poor kids in Heldalf's prep kindergarten along with Lunarre.
>>154793594
Lol no
>Dezel died again
What exactly is this anime trying to accomplish? Everything just gets more and more pointless every episode. Velvet coming out of nowhere and saying "FOLLOW YOUR DREAMS DUDE" is just even more fucking ridiculous.
>>154794249
He did you have a side quest where he captures and almost kills members of the Scattered Bones. Rose then stabs him in the heart and kills him. They merely brought him back to life in the Alisha DLC because it was last minute romp made to appease Alishafags.
>>154794340
Shhh, just look at how cute Alisha is and everything will be okay anon.
>>154783283
>cant them just try to change his mind?
Innominat isn't really in control. It's like asking someone to stop breathing because it's being a problem for everyone else.
If he dies, there's no suppression anymore stopping the empyreans from fucking everything up accidentally.
If he's fully awake, emotions stop existing slowly but surely.
>>154794340
Who fucking cares anymore, it's clear ufotable doesn't care either.
>>154794384
you're damn right I will
>you will never have a cute Normin buddy
Why even live
>>154794767
>Alishafags_laughing_at_Rosefags.jpg
>>154794990
Ufotable had the last laugh
>>154794186
>Sorey and Mikleo are the most behaved kids. They're usually quiet and listen to books Eizen reads them.
>But when they get into an adventurous mood they become really loud.
>They build pillow forts during naptime, pretend to be in a castle and shoot at everyone with paper balls before someone stops them.
>Edna tries to get along with them but they always end up talking about uninteresting things. She also gets jealous when Eizen pays too much attention to them so she tries to hog her brother all the time. Gets along with the staff better than the kids.
>Phi is really shy at first. Doesn't talk to anyone but Velvet and is intimidated by all the kids. Slowly opens up after Rokurou and Eizen encourage him. When the adults are busy he clings to Edna because she seems like the calmest.
>Edna pretends to be annoyed but secretly takes good care of him because Eizen told her to.
>Laphi is the second oldest next to Edna, most of the time buried in some book because he's alread knows how to read. Sometimes reads out things to Sorey and Mikleo and always insists on helping Velvet even though she tells him not to
>Alisha really wants to go wild with the other kids but is too shy as well because her parents told her to be nice and quiet when she's in the kindergarten.
>Rose is a terrible little devil and runs off everywhere so Dezel has to find and catch her when the adults can't. Plays really rough and has no self control so she often ends up hurting others with sticks or toys either by accident or even deliberately. Holds no grudges though.
>She and Alisha often get into some childish argument which always ends up in many tears and scratches but they always mysteriously make up again by naptime and cuddle up under the same blanket.
>Dezel is like a bully and wants to be the leader but they all don't listen to him. Is either keeping Rose from scratching up another kid or hanging around with Zaveid and Theodora when they work.
I'll dream of cute things tonight
>Completely ignoring Camlann and the Throne of Artorius for a different, even more pointless reference.
They're trying their hardest to ruin the plot, huh?
Kittybeard storming Elysia was what made the whole Lord of Calamity fight personal.
>>154796354
It's worse than that.
Berseria outright says that the Throne of Autorius is the best place to effect the flow of the malevolence in the world, it's also where Velvet went to sleep and where Maotelus became a emperyon and where he resides. Camlann actually contained a crap load of Berseria references on it's own.
>>154796530
Yeah I'm not certain what the point of this change is about either. I'm starting to think the writers didn't play Zestiria or Berseria and just read a plot summary.
>>154796354
They did this so we can seeShigure'sghost, just hanging around where he died and drinking.
>>154796736
Didn't Velvetdevour him so and hten sacrifice his body to the Emperyons so you wouldn't see his ghost at all. His ghost is more likely to be at Arotorius's throne.
>>154797247
Sheused his soul as a sacrifice to awaken the Empyreans, his ghost would be either gone or hanging around whatever Empyrean he got used to awaken, maybe. Or he could have moved on, or even been reborn as a Malak/Seraph.
Are we getting a sequel?
>>154798621
The next episode is it for this anime. The sales are too low for a continuation.
>>154797344
Niggathe souls Velvet used were then reborn as Empyreans. Shigure is the Empyrean of fire.
>>154798961
ButI don't remember the Empyrean of fire being impossible to deal with.
Then again, its been ages since I played Zesteria.
>>154799020
That's becauseToZ is literally for scrubs. Plus you can't survive that fight without being armatized. The souls were confirmed to be Shigure and co. in ToB if you rewatch that cutscene where the Empyreans are reborn.
>>154799089
I'm not seeing it, what should I be looking for exactly? BesidesVelvet shoving souls into a volcano.
>>154799323
The Empyreans have the voices of the praetors you killed/absorbed, there is a cutscene after the final battle if I recall correctly.
>>154798961
Isn't he Earth?
I was under the impression that:
Shigure -> Earth
Oscar -> Wind
Melchior ->Water
Teresa-sama-> Fire