>no isekai anime next season
What happened /a/?
Wasn't this supposed to be Japan's hottest new fad?
Where will I get my fix of tracksuit wearing NEETs fucking around with cute girls in another world now?
It's a fundamental change to anime. It's not going anywhere, ever.
Konosuba is the only good isekai ever, so who cares.
For the last fucking time, Konosuba is not a satire/parody of the isekai genre. It's merely a particularly comedic/absurd take on the premise.
It doesn't lampoon the basic cliches and assumptions of the genre. Kazuma still appreciates his life in the new world to a degree, he still has a harem of cute girls whose cuteness outweighs their flaws, he still gets to live the dream once in a while. It's not attempting to be a scathing parody at all.
I feel like people are labeling Konosuba a parody simply so they can say "I-I don't like the REST of the trash isekai, only Konosuba because it makes fun of them!" Kind of like how people label Re:Zero a "deconstruction" as well because they're retarded.
>it's like saying you watch EVA for the mechs
Fuck you EVA works very well as a mecha show.
It's got some excellent monster of the week stuff in it.
>death by truck is actually death from shock at imagining being hit by a truck
>cheat item is beyond useless
>stats are average and not broken
>start off sleeping in a horse stable because they're broke
>other party members have minmax'd but are nigh useless outside of very specific situations as a result
>constantly in debt and having to pay it off
To be completely fair. Good parodies aren't meant to be scathing or off-handed insults to the topics they're parodying. They completely embrace it and even celebrate it at times.
Which is why most of the best parodies about something are written by the very people who come from that subculture to begin with.
>isekai is dead
>battle harem is dead
>meanwhile CGDCT is stronger than ever
>CNDCNT is dead
I need more, the games aren't enough!
When are we getting a modern otome isekai adaption?
>muh otome game setting
>muh villainess reincarnation
>muh duke's daughter
>muh avoiding muh destined bad end
>muh flag breaking
>muh social intrigue
>muh stealing the heroine's harem for myself
>Wasn't this supposed to be Japan's hottest new fad?
this has been going on for the past 2 decades, the influx of "moe" isekai for the past decade. what the FUCK are you on anon?
Going by next season, the hottest shit in anime right now is sequels to already popular properties. I suppose they need guaranteed money going by the shit sales everything is getting in general.
Narou is basically fanfiction.net without the fan fiction. It's where nips go to self-publish their shitty wish fulfillment power fantasy stories and lately light novel publishers have been grabbing the more popular stories on the site and giving them official publishing deals. Mahouka, GATE, Log Horizon, Maoyuu, Overlord, Youjo Senki, and Konosuba are all formerly from Narou, with Log Horizon being the first isekai novel from there to be given an anime adaption (and Maoyuu from the same tax evading author being one of the first Narou anime adaptions).
I don't like it because it's a parody.
I like it because it gives alot of personality to the characters that represent the other world while also providing a competent main character in the world he joins while still being able to provide laughs.
Characters all have good chemistry with one another and they're not completely tethered to the MC to provide quality entertainment too which cannot be said with too many others in the genre.
>Kazuma still appreciates his life in the new world to a degree
>he still has a harem of cute girls whose cuteness outweighs their flaws
>in this world, it seems that the abilities of adolescents are measured through a <Report Card>
>everything from <Mathematical Ability> to <Physical Fitness> is given a grade from F to A, and it seems that those with superior abilities are given preferential choices in society and can obtain higher paying <Jobs>
>additionally, it seems that <Smartphones> are a common piece of equipment seen in this world
>with a <Smartphone>, the denizens of this world can use <Apps>, which confer various useful tools, such as keeping track of time or buying items with 2-day shipping
>what the heck, isn't this world a bit too convenient? <Smartphones> are a truly fearsome thing!
Just marathoned through all the episodes today and honestly i was expecting more from all the hype. I enjoyed the first season well enough as i saw it as a kind of refresher from the standard power fantasy side of things that these isekai anime so often tell and it did go somewhat out of its way to avoid, comment, or subvert the tropes that go along with it but quickly in season two that same shtick began to get old. I dont know if it's just from them spinning their wheels on the same jokes and "subversions" that every critic and their mom was praising it for or just a feeling that it wasnt trying as hard to be as clever anymore.
But its got waifus so whatever it'll probably stick around but i cant see myself sitting through another season.
It's truly a mysterious phenomenon. I mean, we've been bogged down in Isekais for a couple years now, and suddenly there's a break? Did Japan run out of ideas? Or maybe they're not keeping up? It's not like Isekai became unpopular all of a sudden.
I think that the praise here is just for it being a comedy anime at all. Those are so rare that when one of them come, we will all like it, even if we agree that it's not that good.
Fantasy world reincarnation was already a popular jerkoff premise for amateur writers prior to Mushoku Tensei, MT just solidified a lot of the common cliches seen nowadays due to spawning a ton of copycats thanks to its status as the most popular narou novel.
These things always go in phases
Magical high school battles
Only annoyance is there's no sign of Isekai letting up. There's even a fucking magazine of nothing but isekai.
I'd still take isekai over battle harems anyday.
Fall 2015 of anime was a blight upon human history. Fucking Fafnir no Shinmai Maou to Seiken Tsukai no Absolute Duo all in the same season, Christ. And then Rakudai Kishi no Asterisk War happened soon after.
>SAO is responsible for the resurgence... of isekai stories.
We're talking about that good shit with neetakumoris being transferred to the fantasy land.
That's the thing that Shield Hero, Mushoku Tensei, Re: Zero, Outbreak Company, Konosuba, et al share in common.
On a side note ZnT was both Isekai AND High School Battle harem and still managed to be shit
>We're talking about that good shit with neetakumoris being transferred to the fantasy land.
problem is too many newfag anons think that's all there is to isekai and spew shit in their ignorance
This is WISH FULFILLMENT. The target audience doesn't want that horseshit. They're ALREADY better people than most people they were just born in the wrong place/time/situation to let their abilities shine. Plus there's no cutiepie elves in the real world
>Next big thing
Genderbending aka Youjo senki and Magical girl thingy coupled with Isekai. We probably get anti heroes as well but thats probably not a big thing.
Isekai needs to innovate and nips are fundamentaly handicapped on that department so expect small changes like genderbends, Yaoi, Yuri meshed in to the formula. Sure, these existed before but noe theyll get popular
Every possible permutation of isekai has already been written and uploaded onto some dark corner of the web but you know that the publishers are only going to bet on the safe, samey shit in the top 20 list of popularity/sales.
Well if the protag gets their big traveling band of boys and men he could potentially get anyone. That goes more into harem territory probably and would dilute the one on one romance. Guess it just depends what kind of direction they want to go in.
>standard isekai adventure, where MC goes to defeat the maou with the super magic powered princess.
>Turns out it's a princess (male)
So the anime industry is pulling that dating strategy showcased in Masamune-kun?
Viewers are rejecting isekai anime so they pretend to stop making isekai anime and leave viewers out in the cold until they come back begging for more and realize that they loved isekai all along?
Who cares? Isekai is only good when MC is genderbent.
Cloudy eyes has proven to have been pretty fun and comfy, most of the MC's excuses for not caring about these things is because
1) he's a mere baby still and
2) he's blind as shit so it's not like he really can care.
This series has always bothered me with how ridiculously idealistic it is.
>almost every isekai character notices how the ingredients and furnishings of the izakaya should be prohibitively expensive to acquire by the standards of their world
>the good characters decide not to question things too much and just enjoy the food
>the evil characters who attempt to exploit the izakaya are almost always driven off by the good isekai characters or "see the light" after tasting the izakaya's delicious food
IIRC a recent Anime News Network podcast interview with the J Novel Club guy suggested that Overlap may be considering putting together an anime proposal for Saihate no Paladin and that feedback from the overseas readers are a factor in that. Dunno how seriously to take that.
Man, when I picked that up I was hoping he would keep his powers and start manipulating the human world, becoming an underworld demon king or something. Instead he got a mcjob but I suppose that's the premise after all.
>MC's brocon imouto dies from KeyAIDS in the prologue
>he dies from the same KeyAIDS a year later
>reincarnated in a fantasy world as the bastard child of a noble
>it's painfully obvious that he's going to end up reuniting with the reincarnation of his imouto
>it turns out he has an onee-san in this world
>who is a year older than him
>and is also a huge brocon
>and really wants to bang him
>even though they haven't even hit puberty yet
>she buys an elf slave for him to "practice his technique" on
the fucking elf turns out to be the reincarnation of his imouto
What are the fucking odds?
Also incest isekai is surprisingly uncommon despite imouto heroines being a mainstay in everything else. I wonder why?
>minmaxers end up broken as fuck regardless if they are mentally ill fuckwits
>Kazuma still gets smacked by girls even he will fight back
But School Days was an accurate version of how shitty harems should be!
Well he said that the Japanese publishers he's working with have been requesting him to translate feedback and reviews from the overseas side. And that it was the Japanese publishers who asked them to translate Isekai Smartphone.
/a/ would end up making Mayoiga at their laziest or tryhard shit like School Days/Master of Marital Hearts.
Too much cynicism can be just as bad if not worse than the anti-christs of lowest common denominator pandering like SAO/Infinite Stratos.
I wonder if you're a member of the litrpg/isekai leddit. You probably are, you're definitely displaying their abundance of chromosomes.
We need an Isekai set in The Wild West.
Westworld proved the world that a Japanese NEET being transported to an RPG world set in The Wild West would print so much fucking money.
Where's my Cowboy Isekai, Japan?
Isekai and others with fantasy settings are popular because this planet is boring and uninteresting. There's a reason why SoL moeshit/romanceshit zero fantasy always have a mediocre amount of audience and popularity. Well-executed otherworldly settings are always the game changer for attracting lots of audience and reverse isekai doesn't do that.
Here's what MF Bunko J released last month. Guess what the highlighted word is. The other labels aren't much different.
I heard Jump banned all isekai manga being submitted because its the only fuckin' idea these days
>I Wandered into Another World Where I am the Strongest Youkai?! Border Manipulation is an Unrivaled Cheat Skill!
those 14th century writers were all about that isekai
>owns slaves (Shikigami)
>more interested in tasty food than anything else
>uses knowledge of the modern world to her advantage
Yukari is the stereotypical isekai protagonist.
>owns slaves (Shikigami)
They're even beastkin.
>It's got some excellent monster of the week stuff in it.
90% of the monster of the week stuff is terrible filler that could be taken from any generic mecha anime
the beginning and the end of the series is where all the good stuff is
Sanae a slut.
If that's how a lot of it is then yikes, I'd hate to touch that. Does she still end up with the prince/royalty out of some bullshit reason?
It'd be something if she got brought over as a literal plain japanese woman.
So what's really new isn't isekai, it's the creative bankruptcy of reincarnation (meaning they don't particularly give any fucks about the old world) and "cheats"(meaning they can power fantasy away any challenge)
More often than not in these otome isekai the main love interest of the game (usually the prince) is still paired up with the original heroine because it would put the former villainess-turned-reincarnator in a bad light if she were to NTR the heroine. In other words, she'd be a straight up villainess, not a reformed one.
But all the other love interests are fair game. Usually the MC ends up with "dark horse" character of the game who isn't important in the original story but ended up massively popular with fans, or an outright minor character... there are an unusually high number of stories where they go full gay for the heroine as well.
>literal plain Japanese woman
I think you mean "exotic foreigner with raven black hair, charming upturned eyes and a lithe, modest figure who proceeds to deny all those compliments and stutter that she's not cute at all because after all, how could an awkward girl with no experience whose high school love life might as well have been extinct and has long passed her youthful years slaving away in a corporate lifestyle attract the attention of a prince-like character who seems to exude kira kira~ effects like this?".
Can we have a main character who actually treats the other world seriously for once and doesn't do meta commentary on everything?
Every fucking MC has to be genre savvy these days, it's fucking unbearable. It's gotten to the point where most of them literally say "this is just like one of my Japanese web novel fictions!" in the first few pages. It's not funny anymore.
Going for the underdog does seem like something a story trying to subvert expectations would do. Dunno why I never thought of that.
>That exotic jap description
I forgot this was shoujo.
>Saihate no paladin is famous in the west
I never said it was famous in the West. I just said that feedback from Western readers was requested by the Japanese publishers, and that this feedback is among the many other factors that would be considered in potential future anime proposal. I didn't say it was a primary factor or even an important one. Just that it was there.
I wish we could see sales numbers for jap lns published in the west. At least i know shieldbro runs out of pre-orders everytime a new book is out.
Describe the ideal world you'd like to be isekai'd to, /a/.
Kirito goes into a coma because of the evil NSA.
The surviving Law guys try to train up a peasant army in preparation for the Chaos invasion (Chaos are led by the literal God of Darkness who is also an evil NSA agent who eats souls like rape).
They get rekt, but Kirito's harem save them with GM accounts and deebeezeee powerlevels.
NSA connect UW to the internet and get 50,000 American players to connect (it was advertized to them as a beta test for a new AO-rated VRMMO where you're allowed to slaughter anything and everything you like, with blood and guts), they mass murder UW residents and think it's hilarious.
To defeat them the main characters get 2,000 Japanese VRMMO players to connect. Despite the difference in numbers the Japanese are superior and win because Asian gamer damashii.
Then PoH (who is also an evil NSA agent) unleashes a zerg rush of Korean and Chinese gamers who were recruited by being told this is the a Korean VRMMO that's in beta test but evil Japanese hackers broke into the server, turned off pain dampening and are torturing their countrymen.
Even when some Japs who speak Korean try to explain the situation to them they don't listen because hurr japanese
The other NSA guys are surprised this works, they thought it wouldn't be worth it because they didn't think Japan is more different from Korea/China than European countries are from each other (hur)
Koreans and Chinese overwhelm Japs because this is every Jap's worst nightmare.
Kirito wakes up (thanks to the literal POWER OF LOVE from his entire harem) and wipes them all out in one attack though.
(Also PoH's motivation is that he's Korean and he hates Japanese so when he got stuck in SAO he decided to set up Laughing Coffin and have them and the clearers kill each other for shits and giggles because Nips killing each other is hilarious.)
Kirito and Asuna become gods because of x10000000 acceleration.
The AIs explore VR space with rocket dragons.
>even if it's arguably not a "true" isekai.
Nigga, it's a VRMMO
Not even VRMMO where you're transported to a real world like Log Horizon, Overlord or New Gate. Just a shitty VRMMO.
By now you guys should be able to write your own isekai masturbatory material. I mean, you guys are better than all these garbage authors from Japan so it's not that hard.
You're so wrong in so many level. SAO doesn't start an isekai trend at all. I'm not reading SAO but i'm certain it's not isekai or anything just usual stupid random newfag nonsense memes.
besides humans (Maribel, Sanae, Sumireko), even gods (Kanako), youkai (Mamizou, Nue) and lunarians get Isekai'd. Even Game Boys (and any kind of forgotten things, like dodo birds) get Isekai'd. Also, it's possible that other humans get isekai'd into it ("spirited away") to serve as youkai food (although it's also possible that youkai only really need the humans' fear, instead of actually attacking to kill them), or they accidentally enter it (and Reimu guides them out if they want to leave).
If you count Seihou, even android maids get isekai'd into it.
>SAO which is not being original
It's the most popular even though it's just an Isekai simulator. The idea of getting trapped in another world and sprinkling RPG elements were just too brilliant of an idea and guess what, they were right.
The whole hack series is literally an edgy pile of shit that doesn't even have any interesting premises like Death Note and Yume Nikki had except for dumb viruses so it wasn't and can't be popular to its target audience (gamer edgelords) but everybody pretty much already knows that.
>you guys are better than all these garbage authors from Japan
.Hack was only moderately popular for a period of time and has long passed in relevancy.
It's nothing like SAO which is retardedly popular and has topped charts for several years because Japan has shit taste.
>log horizon influencing anything but tax evasion
The anime boom started with overlord.
The novel boom started with mushoku, remonster, slime, kumo, overlord etc all coming around the same time (truly a miracles boom).
.hack was stupidly popular back then. Why the fuck do you even think there were so god damn many games and literally three anime series for it?
Speaking of, LoT will always have a GOAT OP
>Round Table feat. Nino
>Duel Master 2017
>In the new series' story, the balance of the Creature World is starting to crumble. A talking deck case named Decky comes to the human world to search for a Duel Master to preserve equilibrium. There he sees Joe's power to create creatures.
Crisis Averted, the deck was isekai'd so it counts.
Actually no, 50 chapters of "I'm two years old, read about my crying and shitting myself" is far worse than handful of chapters and hefty time skips.
Knights and Magic has nice growing up timeskips
You must be very stupid to think hack is not even popular it's like saying digimon is not popular. And forcing SAO as isekai is more even dumb, I know you're just attention whore newfag.
i'd watch an anime about pic related transported into a sword world japanese rpg setting
>/a/ complains about Isekai.
>Now they want one for next season.
That can't be helped since the only good isekai Konosuba is filled with Megumemers that has been polluting /a/ for quite some time now. Why must these Nip proxies shill their shit taste so much?
desert coral is a good isekai but its just a manga
>boy gets summoned into fantasy world by cute girl
>boy finds out that his dreams created the fantasy world and that he is a god
>boy gets sent back to the normal world
>boy gets resummoned back into the fantasy world with amnesia
>there is a faction trying to steal the fantasy world from him before he remembers that he is god
>THE REALLY NICE ANIME IS JUST A COMMERCIAL FOR THE REALLY BAD """LIGHT NOVEL"""!
Should've nuked them a third time.
yes it is not isekai but i don't watch sao. sao just hack ripoff the latter anime adaption of hack doesn't follow the game that become more harem. sao just more faithfull to how hack series game went.
>It is not
It is too. The standards that a visual medium like anime is held up to are completely different from the standards that you hold written word up to.
This is ignoring the fact that you're just running clunky and redundant Japanese prose through the translation wringer. Even the best case scenario is going to look like a fucking elementary schooler's book over here.
>if it is bad it won't be made into anime
you must be stupid. If it is treated as elementary school book it won't become the most funded translation. Isekai harem is funded the most because it's more valuable than the rest of course.
>With a worried voice, Emilia softly touched the end of Subaru’s sleeve. Savoring the gentleness of the tip of her finger, Subaru, not wanting to let her see the darkness on his face, closed his eyes, then forcibly lifted his head.
>[Subaru: I’m alright. It’s not like I had any special expectations. I more or less knew it would be like this. ――What I must do, one way or another, I already have that resolve]
>[Emilia: En. Let’s find a way. I will help too]
>Emilia nodded at Subaru’s determination, and pledged her unreserved support. As the heart that had been shattered recovered in her gentle regard, Subaru shrugged up his shoulders.
People liking something doesn't change the fact that it is poorly written. The fact of what it is (an isekai harem fantasy) just makes it more likely. The people who are fans of this are fans of the idea of it, not its execution.
You can literally see here, in real time, a combination of redundancy and an utter autist's interpretation of body language. Some translators will do a "localization" (read "rewrite the thing altogether in English"), but these localizations are what I was referring to as being juvenile. They read like Scholastic titles.
it is not poorly written. It is not written with boring formulaic grammar doesn't mean it is bad. that' where the art comes from. And language is not the important part of novel. You're a child to think only your view matter and to think like that. You're thinking and viewing it like a bunch of underage children with complete amateur experience.
Different anon, but to be honest the only real problem with that extract is using the world darkness unironically.
I'm not defending re:zero, but it's not like other books have a better prose most of the time.
>yfw Yayaka will never make this face at you
>it is not poorly written.
You're blind, m8, or Japanese.
That's just a random instance too. I just had to grab a random post from Translation Chicken and skim through it until I found a suitable example of why this shit's so fucking bad.
Surely they have to most past this at some point. I'm not even a fucking /lit/ fag. My taste is as plebeian as it gets, and I still can't stomach it.
You don't have a problem with Emilia saying something, and then the line after immediately saying that she said what she said? How about the mechanical descriptions of things you'd never imagine anyone but a fucking anime character doing? I know what I do when I'm feeling down. I just stare at the fucking ground until someone touches my sleeve, then close my eyes and raise my head. Sounds natural as fuck. Also, closing my eyes will totally prevent me from sending the message that I'm upset about something, because the other person couldn't figure THAT out from the fact that I was sitting there staring at the fucking ground.
>but it's not like other books have a better prose most of the time.
I've seen high schoolers with better prose than this.
>Does first world standards lead to a person with brain damage like you? You're in desperate need of urgent medication or treatment for your brain.
Here I turned your gibberish writing into something more legible, when you're able to write something like this maybe your trash opinion will be worth considering, as of now you're little more than a monkey making monkey sounds.
If there's artistic value in that set of lines, it's completely lost on me.
The only way you're ever going to extract the writing-related artistic value into a translation is doing what they did with FFXII and just having a bunch of classically trained writers and actors rebuild it all in English.
>You don't have a problem with Emilia saying something, and then the line after immediately saying that she said what she said?
That's common in Japanese literature, and not so weird in general.
The scene being full of anime tropes doesn't mean it's "poorly" written, you don't have to try hard and tell us why closing your eyes is dumb.
>I've seen high schoolers with better prose than this.
Don't think you spouting such sentences is kind of useless and add nothing to the discussion?
It's a baseless statement.
>Don't think you spouting such sentences is kind of useless and add nothing to the discussion?
>It's a baseless statement
I gave my basis for why those high schoolers can write better prose than this. You just poopooed it because you're incapable of separating your love of a fictional set of characters and ideas from the way said characters and ideas are rendered.
>That's common in Japanese literature, and not so weird in general.
This isn't Japanese literature though. This is a translated WN. It might not be unheard of in English literature, but again, I found this passage with hardly any effort at all, because every other line in the fucking thing has this problem. It would take significantly more time for me to find a similar error in any of the books off my shelf.
>he scene being full of anime tropes doesn't mean it's "poorly" written, you don't have to try hard and tell us why closing your eyes is dumb.
The passage being filled with clunky description of unnatural movement makes it read like ass in English. It's a script for the little anime characters in your head to follow, not proper writing.
It's very difficult to define isekai. I think it's a major type of fiction; I read somewhere that genre fiction is divided into four categories:
>regular characters in regular settings (like SoLs or irregular plot devices)
>irregular characters in regular settings (like Maou-sama)
>irregular characters in irregular settings (like high fantasy)
>regular character in irregular settings (that's generally isekai)
But people nowadays mean certain cliches when they use that term like JRPG mechanics, slave harems, unfair OP advantage,...etc. I think SAO certainly is an isekai, it doesn't matter whether the characters are in world similar to a game or in an actual game.
We English-speaking peasants should just replace everything in our libraries with whatever fucks like you can masturbate onto a page, I suppose.
Dunno why you're getting mad at me though. I'm not the one pointing out that you write like a goddamn orangutan.
Who exactly am I supposed to be self-inserting as in isekai?
>You just poopooed it because you're incapable of separating your love of a fictional set of characters and ideas from the way said characters and ideas are rendered
Nice argument bro, I even said I'm not trying to defend re:zero since I couldn't care less about it.
>This isn't Japanese literature though.
It was to say it's a common way of talking for Japanese, that's not even the most redundant thing I've ever read; thanks God no one posted Sakurai's prose here, or you would've gone mad.
But it doesn't make a difference story-wise. Imagine any isekai story you now, do you think it will miraculously change genres just by adding a line like this to the end?
>But MC found out that instead of him being reincarnated as he previously thought for the last 9 volumes, he was hooked to a VR machine instead
Japan's going back to cute animal girls. There is going to be an Isekai anime next season though. It's about a trap who gets sent to a fantasy mecha setting and pilots a magical 3DCG giant robot.
So Log Horizon is not an isekai then?
I think game mechanics are good but in moderation. Writers incorporate them into the story when it doesn't even make any sense.
I blame it on writers being too lazy to plan out logical systems of magic or being unwilling to spend a large amount of time on developing their character to a certain point.
It's from paradise appeal that will give us anything. Of course having rpg mechanic is still makes sense since it's a god power is omnipotent and they grant them anything in the after life.
I think the main reason is that most of these stories starts out as WNs where the writers aren't exactly working their hardest. Plus game mechanics doesn't hinder character development. Tate no Yuusha had them and it had plenty of development.
They didn't reveal the nature of the world they were in, that's why I chose it as an example.
Bottom-line it for me
Yeah, and it got ruined by editorial mandate when turned into an LN because apparently some editor fuckhead thought there was a pressing need for a main heroine and forced the author to write in a younger cousin character that got isekai'd along with the MC.
Medieval fantasy with light steam punk aesthetics and essential modern luxuries like plumbing. Elder scrolls levels of lore put into its world in terms of culture and mythos with deep and intricately connected political powers and relationships.
In terms of just pure fetish fuel ideal like i know lots of people think about i'd take the same thing only inhabited entirely by
I think the right-hand one is a fan-translation. It's stilted, literal, and is just incredibly awkward to read in general. The one on the left basically rewrites the entire thing but is a much, much more pleasant read. I'm not too sure what the point of the image is, though, besides demonstrating that professional translations obviously outclass fan translations.
Seems like it. The two passages convey the same ideas, but the one on the left does it in English and the one on the right does it in a bastardization of English and Japanese. I think I understand now. Part of the point of the image is to demonstrate just how much you need to rewrite Japanese prose to make it compatible with English rules, because it'll read like a grade-school summer project if you try to translate it word-for-word. The two languages are just too dissimilar for a 1:1 translation.
I pinned that on what >>154796358 said chalked it down to the differences between the LN and WN. The original author or the editor might have realized there wasn't a need for such a detailed description of why he was a lazy sack of shit and that the space could have been used for something better.
In addition to a different translation, the source material is different since the fan translation works from the amateur WN version of the story and the official one works from the edited LN version published for money.
This is a more expanded version
I'm pretty sure a lot of the praise is from Kazuma remaining a dull NEET, no matter how "strong," he gets. A lot of reborn milk toast MCs in isekai grow to be so far from anything a regular watcher could sufficiently self insert into, but Kazuma never has this sort of "growth."
That and waifus. The written comedy is lukewarm, most of it comes from the animation of pinch/pull and funnee meme faces xDd
You're the one with an obvious writing, "style," and have a chip on your shoulder— that given, aren't you more of an attention whore?
How was the anon calling you out attention whoring at all?
I don't care about getting some hugely detailed explanation for how magic works, it's fine if the magic just exists in the world without much explanation. I don't even mind so much that it works kind of like a game, it's the stupid HUD type stuff with levels and stats that never really mean much anyway and having to hear the MC compare everything to the game that he played.
Why aren't there more isekai stories about magical girls?
The one where I don't have to deal with wage-slavery and where anything worthwhile isn't locked beyond massive pay walls and "aptitude" tests.
Send me to that world please, cause I'm tired of this shit.
All you need for an isekai is getting transported from a modern world to another different fantasy world with no way back, nothing else. Even the typical and encouraged isekai attributes like RPG elements, overpowered abilities, permadeath, harem, memory retainment etc. are completely optional
You're claiming that Sao is the first isekai and implying it is also the best. You're the dipshit here faggot. Your post left nothing to imagination and you are a blight on humanity.
Anon, you are medically retarded.
Seek professional help.
Actually they do far less so than other writers from places like US or England with just several pages. I am tried of faggots who spend more than 20 pages just to write about their special feels magic bullshit that few people care about.
I get what you mean but at least for a specific/brief point in time. Having an option to go back to your real world is one of those optional traits in "etcetera" that I've previously listed. It can't really be called an isekai if you could already go back to your original world by page 20 in volume 1 now is it? That's why SAO is perfectly an isekai even if the major part of the novel series is already a non-isekai
I don't remember this anime but does the MC have the option to go back anytime even at the very first episode? If yes then it isn't.
1) That wasn't my post
2) >>154763601 was telling >>154762684 to kill himself for thinking that [Konosuba is the only good isekai ever and that SAO invented isekai].
God you're such fucking morons
>It can't really be called an isekai if you could already go back to your original world by page 20 in volume 1 now is it?
Yes it can. It means going to another world.
>SAO is perfectly an isekai even if the major part of the novel series is already a non-isekai
No, it's not. It's a VRMMO. Putting on a VR headset and playing DOTA2 doesn't make you John Carter.
It comes down to whether you define the genre by a literal description of what happens or by what themes the story uses. VRMMOs can have a lot of the same themes as other isekai even if they're not technically travelling to another world.
I don't know, maybe the world from the STALKER game series. Fuck the middle ages and magic, I want cute girls being Kalashnikov-toting, gasmask-wearing, guitar-playing adventurers in a beautiful irradiated wasteland.
This, or the Ace Combat Strangereal world. Waifus and fighter planes all day. Pic related.
>tfw my favourite type of isekai is basically SoL romcom isekai
Somehow I wonder why the fuck I read isekai in the first place if in the end what I read is mostly romcom.
Probably a modern Japan SoL anime world. I stay a high school student for the rest of my life, all my living expenses are paid for, and you never have to deal with politics there at all. It could be either a regular SoL, a harem, a battle harem, or anything in between.
If you're strictly talking about fantasy worlds, I'd say a vaporwave world would work well. The apocolypse basically happened somewhere in the 90s, and the remaining people of the world are trying to rebuild, using VCRs and Windows 98 to operate. It would feel very chill.