From trying to kill someone with a giant pinball machine to helping them with their pre-childbirth kegel exercises.
Who voices the semen demon? I thought she sounded kinda familiar. I want to check it out.
Will Merged Zamasu's monster form have chin spikes?
I haven't gone to bed quite yet despite what happened in an earlier thread.
Reminder that Goku's name is "Gokou"
Beerus is "Beers"
Buu is "Boo"
Mr. Satan real name is "Mark"
17 and 18 names are "Lapis" and "Lazuli"
and nobody knows Turtle Hermit's name, same about his sister
>mfw Dunkey guest starred as Beerus
More like forgotten than retconned. It was just a failed marketing attempt to push base form merchandise to begin with anyway, so it's not surprising they don't bother anymore. Super Saiyan sells, and they need to get over that fact.
There's just absolutely no consistency to Beyond God at all because you can't visibly gauge it.
We don't know how much of a boost it gave or when their Base God boners are erected whatsoever.
aah yes, perfect. Thank you very much.
(it seems I've never heard of her: so, my alarm was wrong. nice to check it out)
That kindof stuff doesn't bother me too much I've been on the internet too long to care about that, it's just that in that scenario if I stuck around I would've perpetuated the anon who was attracted to my character to continue typing out lewd stuff which doesn't belong here. Either way I'm fine though, thanks for asking.
I really like how SSG and SSB are pretty much the same god form but one gives you more strength while the other one is more "stable" about the energy (as SS2 and SS3 except gods are more balanced each other and use both forms actually works). It's like they need stop being a morons and be more strategic if they want to handle god's power properly.
>inb animefan shitposting
It's OK if you enjoy more the anime version or just the "beyond god" thing, I don't care at all, I'm just saying I like some idea. Be happy and let me be happy.
This is the second time Vegeta has sent Goku to the hospital
>tfw the opening already forshadowed SSG vegeta
>You can't just "train away" a weakness like that.
I hate the manga too, but you can actually train away stuff like that. Goku did it with Kaioken and SSJ, and now in Super he is doing it with SSB Kaioken too. Training can get rid of a lot of shit. Still, Toyotard's fault for adding the stupid 1/10 rule that shouldn't have been there to begin with, and adding SSG Vegeta now while completely forgetting Vegeta could have used that to deal with Hit.
Pilaf helping Bulma out again
and mai getting the pregnancy exercises her future counterpart will probably need soon too
The problem is SSG is an universally hated transformation because it was boring and lazy. They hyped it so much and it ended up being a red Goku with a faggot face that doesn't even have the SSJ hair everyone loves.
Toei did good by removing that trash forever.
>mfw I come for the fights and everyone else comes for the '''new''''''' saiyan transformations
>mfw the fights aren't that good
I don't like Vegeta's face with SSG. Vegeta is supposed to be a badass, SSG gives everyone a faggot face, it's ugly and lazy. I mean over time it doesn't seem as shit as it did at first because we probably got used to it, but when it first came out, it was one of the worst things to ever happen to Dragon Ball.
Smugpup you do realize you're chivalrous and considerate to a fault and somebody is going to take advantage of that one day and you're going to end up severely hurt for it right?
Hah you don't need to remind me about it, I've almost gotten myself killed because of it several times and yes people have taken advantage of me even more times but I'm seriously too autistic to change. I'm a bit of a massive manchild ok - I mean that's why I'm still watching Dragon Ball Super. I might be going to bed for real now, so you guys take care.
This isnt your blog, we arent therapists, fuck off
>SSG is an universally hated transformation because it was boring and lazy
Fucking toeishills I swear
Any Universe 7 shills here? I'm gonna beat your ass
They should just bring back SS4 and forget the god crap ever happened.
SSG is just an extremely lazy palette swap. The colors are too bright, it's painful to look at. And Goku seemed too skinny in BoG for some reason.
SSGSS is a lazy as well, and its concept was convoluted as fuck. Did we really both red and blue god form? They should've just sticked to one. The name Super Saiyan Blue is anticlimatic as fuck, and SSGSS sounds retardrd.
I just wish we knew what Divinity really weighed in the DB universe.
The anime kind of implies a lot of different contradictory stuff that makes it hard to really pinpoint where on the scale anyone is compared to anyone else.
Are Goku & Vegeta now inherently divine?
Or is Divinity just some sort of Ki technique, some sort of perfect method of ki management?
>all the Universes complaining 40 hours is not enough
>Gowasu and Ganesha seem fine
Are they going to do it?
Somebody check on U10 they seem to be frozen in fear haven't moved or spoken once
>SSG being shit has anything to do with Toei
You might want to see those threads from 4 years ago. Nobody, absolutely nobody liked SSG. People actually kept saying over and over that they rather have SSJ4 than SSG.
No, the original music is honestly fucking terrible and I don't care what purists say. Sure the old Funi music was very odd sometimes and ill fitting. But most of the original music just sounds like stock Godzilla music or something, awful.
>frozen in fear
They have a contestant stronger than Goku, they are not bothered by the 40 hours.
gtfo here bug eyed freakazoid
>So you were saving your power
>I did not just watch you use this power a few minutes ago
Just like SS was a palette swapped Goku while KKx10?
Kaioken didn't spike up Goku's hair. We also didn't have several power-up forms at that time, as opposed to now where there are 3 variations of the spiked Goku look where only his hair changes colors.
Beerus looked like he had the "GT Cell syndrome"
Why did they portrayed his face so incorrectly so much in this episods
>muh palette swapping
The first Super Saiyan is literally just Goku with golden hair
SSJ2 is literally the same thing again with more spikes and electricity
Nobody but GT fags want some uber edgy glowing eyed huge mane of white/red/blue/gold hair form of super saiyan.
SSJ4 looks very odd and out of place, it looks nothing like the previous forms and looks completely unrelated.
I'm a anime fag and I like the idea. Pretend it's super Saiyan 2/3, if gok could have the less stamina drain of 2 but give his attacks the power of 3 Buu would have been a joke
I didn't hate blue when it came out but after the mess that SSG was it was more like, well that's better I guess.
I like blue a lot now though
its time to stop dude, youve posted that thing over 20 times, it adds nothing to conversations it's actively weirding out people
if it brings nothing to the table and changes nothing theres no need for it to be around.
Its like someone that keeps bringing up they're vegan in the middle of anything other people are talking about, you are that right now, the guy that screams "BTW IM VEGAN" when people are discussing trains.
This would be after the fight. Goku using it to come up with a way to bring back Universe 7. I don't really see Zeno being able to find Goku on his own, despite him being God.
No, you kill yourself for just blindly loving the original music you fucking weeb. It's the least impactful and memorable score I've ever heard save for one or two moments like the Gohan SSJ2 transformation. Most of the time it literally sounds exactly the same, generic Japanese action music. It's garbage.
Sorry, but she's just so cute.
>Super animated by Toei Phillips
>Goku goes full retard
>Ratings get higher
>Goku turns heel
>There's no brake on the Super train
>Gohan becomes the MC of Dragon Ball for real this time
>Super is cancelled, the Dragon Ball franchise is finally dead
>Toriyama: Keikaku dorii
I can see the arc ending in a few retarded ways
>U7 losing and not wanting to kill Goku, so the universes stay
>U7 wins and just uses the super dbs to thing the universes back and Zeno doesn't give a fuck
>Zenos really like the tournament so they let the universes live so they can have another one at some point
H-How dare you hurt Toppooo...
>Kaioken didn't spike up Goku's hair
DRAGON BALL chapter 285, "The Eldest and Co. in Danger!", page 2
If they wish the other universes back, it would make no sense. Why wouldn't Zeno do it again?
Also, this arc is already retarded. Zeno wants the greatest fights ever, why not have the strongest (average) universes fight in the tournament? Wouldn't you believe that they would have stronger outliers? If anything, say that they are excluded from being destroyed, but if they don't cooperate they will be destroyed anyway.
desu for better or worse DBS has been unpredictable in the way its arcs have ended thus far.
Everyone was talking about how the Future Trunks arc would be a boring end with everything being fixed and that didn't happen.
I think Jiren will win and wish everyone back. They've really gone out of their way so far to dispel the "Goku always wins" rule. He's technically lost every major fight so far in Super.
Looks like Toei forgot Beerus is a cat, not a dog
This is why Tumblr needs to be eradicated.
>tumblr zero keikaku
You want another punch you filthy evildoer? DIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>Super Saiyan didn't come out when we had 3 forms of power ups for Goku each changing his hair
How is this relevant? Super Saiyan is always going to have a pretty standard look to it no matter what.
Seriously forget that SSJ4 and all the dumb fanfic forms it spawned ever existed. They will never have influence on the canon SSJ forms. It's obvious Toriyama feels like they should stick to a single mould and there's no real argument for why they shouldn't.
guess the time has arrived to show you
Will the Universe 4 God of Destruction be relevant this arc?
>SSJ4 looks very odd and out of place
Not him, but SSJ4 actually looks pretty cool. Talk shit about the pants all you want but Fusion Dance also adds clothes.
Anyways, SSJ4 is a decent concept, going back to the roots of a Saiyan, their ultimate transformation being an actual monkey like transformation instead of MUH ARYAN RACE is a good thing.
The mortal level doesn't mean the strength of the average mortal, it means how advanced and numerous the mortals in that universe are.
Why do people still not get this? Basically Universe 7 is a barren empty wasteland of a universe and that's why its level is so low.
Giving how Toei loves to spoil shit
>Merged zamasu in a preview
>All vegettos cool moments in a preview
I guarantee the last two fighters of the tournament will be Goku vs ayy which we already seen probably more than half of
If anyone is curious, this Jiren's voice
Sorry I fucked up
But it looks nothing like a Super Saiyan. SSJ2 and 3 look like natural continuations of the initial form. SSJ4 just looks like some weird slapped together bullshit with no real connection to the other forms. The idea of going back to root of the Saiyans is an interesting idea but it should have been called something different if that's what they were doing.
Besides the fur and eyeliner looks incredibly retarded.
Get 'em in while you can bugfreak. Even the GoDs will tremble after this
SSJ4 Gogeta looks cool in the games but in the anime that Big Bang Kamehameha was laughable. But yeah, it's funny how Gogeta looks good yet SSG looks like such shit, despite both having the same hair color.
So you wanted another MUH ARYAN transformation or something? SSJ is something that you can reach without a tail. SSJ4 isn't.
The animation finally got good that last few episodes, but this one went down again. Wtf is going on.
we better get U6 and U7 sticking together against all other universes
Hit and Goku
Vegetable and Little Vegetable
Botamo and Buu
Frost and Piccolo
Magetta and Gohan
Saiyaman based off of Kamen Rider.
Riders don't join Sentai Squads.
Gohan isn't going to ever become the main MC but he's still pretty fucking popular in Nipland after Goku and Vegeta.
Where is all this praise for his coming from?
Will Toei forget that u10 is alive 1000 years into the future?
Its been foreshadowed forever.
He's still the most popular character after Goku and Vegeta though in Japan.
Yeah, which culminated in him becoming Mystic Gohan, literally the strongest character in the Dragonball Z series besides Vegito, and doing jackshit. Got a lot weaker since then.
What is this "muh aryan" shit you keep raving about?
I honestly didn't want there to be an SSJ4 at all. Since Z had already pretty much established that SSJ3 is the limit the standard form of SSJ can reach. I'm glad they introduced a new concept in the form of God ki to justify new forms.
>Prove me wrong
Easy. SS isn't SSG.
>What is this "muh aryan" shit you keep raving about?
You are saying all you want is blonde Goku and if anything deviates from that you hate it.
>Since Z had already pretty much established that SSJ3 is the limit the standard form of SSJ can reach
They did not had a tail in Z.
>over 11 years old
>Goten and Trunks literally ignored in their own main Saga for Gohan again because follow up for both Goku and Gohan being more popular
>Toriyama not giving a shit about Piccolo
Hell Gotenks is the biggest joke because he's literally reduced to be a mascot not even worth putting into fights or winning them.
Both of you need to wait until 3135500603rd day of the King's Calendar on the 157th hour
OU in moonspeak is supposed long OO sound though. You saying they just did to be cool?
Not him but I think the complaints are just that SSG is just a recolor of vanilla Goku and ssgss is just super Saiyan recolor
If ss was blue from the start and ssgss was yellow people would still complain
You got lucky monkey scum. Next time I'll show you my real power.
Neither Beerus or Goku said power though
Goku just said Gohan was raising it, in response to Beerus saying Goku was lowering it. Which implies that Mortal level means intelligence.
Wasn't this from the whole fact of Buu freaking out so badly he had to freak out and absorb Gotenks and Piccolo to gain a smarter mind and a huge power boost? And even was dumb enough not to absorb Gohan then just to show off his new power and consequently was going to die for his own stupidity again until Toriyama made Gohan unable to catch a simple thrown earring so he could bring back Vegeta again and make him relevant?
Don't see how it compares to what your saying.
Not him but even so, that would indicate Gohan has still been in the top 5 for decade or longer now despite his up till recent downgrade status. Don't you feel like Toriyama constantly having him train, get better, physically improve is an indication Gohan getting to man up again?
"Chou" can be either localized as "Super Gohan" or "Ultimate" Gohan. You don't call Goku's Chou Kamahama Ha "Mystic Turtle Wave" do you? You don't call Kuuga's Chou Henshin "Mystic Transformation" do you?
They should bring this guy back. He's still alive, remember?
He was talking about the ten or fifteen seconds that goku stopped struggling against toppo's hold. Toppo assumed that goku had just run out of gas but he was actually just saving it up
don't you have some pride parade to parade at with your fatass lover
Chun was Roshi, right?
This is Bra, she just have been born. Say something nice to her.
>aside from the entire look what's new
Go fuck yourself with these loaded questions.
Also, the way the transformation occurs is unique and a nice creative solution, if you want an answer with your moved goalposts.
No, I want forms that at least have some resemblance to the classic Super Saiyan design. If you're going to have a leather pants wearing red furry monkey man form why call it Super Saiyan at all? It looks nothing like one. That's my main problem with SSJ4 honestly. It seems like they just thought up something they thought would look cool and slapped the SSJ4 name on it. It doesn't seem like an extension of the Super Saiyan form we all know. Blonde hair isn't essential but there needs to be some common thread that connects a form calling itself "Super Saiyan" to the original design.
>They did not had a tail in Z.
I don't see what your point is, having a tail canonically means nothing in terms of a Saiyan's power.
If they'd made a point of making it clear that SSJ4 and the Golden Ape is the true form of Super Saiyan, like the one seen in the flashback in Z I might have been more accepting of it. But naturally GT doesn't explain or significantly expand jack shit about anything it introduces
Also I know the flashback only happened in the Z anime so don't call me a retard. GT pretty much disregarded the Z manga as canon and only referenced the anime
>"Super Gohan" or "Ultimate" Gohan
Got it, never knew that.
>Don't see how it compares to what your saying.
There is only so many times you can draw out the potential of someone, even two is pushing it.
You didn't really think she'd be the final boss of the tournament right? At best, she'll tangle with vegeta after he beats the teletubby, but she could even just end up being something for roshi to perv on
The concept of God ki and God level forms expanded the series lore.
If you just like cool "edgy" forms then SSJ4 is for you. If you like forms that open up whole new avenues for the story then SSJG and Blue are for you.
Gohan's potential isn't being drawn out though, he's regressed in the timeskip between the end of the Buu Saga to the start of Super. He's training to get back in shape and improve to better protect his family and not get humiliated again like he was by reborn Freeza.
I don't want Gohan to be necessarily the strongest but I do want to see him to do good again like the old days as part of the main group like he used to.
So your autism is over the name alone? You do realize if they went with another name, there would be people asking the new form to go SSJ, like they kept asking for Goku to go Kaioken while in SSJ for years?
Heh, keep talking you dumb monkey. It'll make my victory all the sweeter. Let me give you a small glimpse of my full power before I go. AAAAAAAAAARRRGHHHHHH
well we already know Roshi's in. We know 7 of the warriors already, there's 3 we don't know. Maybe it'll be Goten and Trunks, but that's not looking likely. Who else does universe 7 really have? Will they make up 3 original characters we never met? If they exist, than why didn't Beerus use them in the last tournament?
I doubt Cell or Frieza will be in it, but I can hope. And I still think it would be hilarious watching the two being forced to be good guys
>what is LSS
LSS is literally the best transformation it's power is unlimited and can btfo gods
Those who want Goku to die are Pedros and ESLfags. Goku will never be erased, you dumb shit. He is the greatest warrior in reality , and he's alive in EoZ. I can't wait for the Pedros to kill themselves once they see that their anti-Goku fantasies will never be fulfilled.
somebody post that ssj4 broly being btfo by champa
Broly will be Black rival
Toppo is Hit rival
Jiren will be Goku rival
Beerus lite is Gohan rival
Bergamo is Buu rival
Cuckgeta will be stuck with Teletubbie for not training
I was hoping for this before they revealed skinny red Goku. Looks more in line with the whole ape thing as well.
>took on a SSJ2 Gohan that actually trained unlike the main timeline
>not even SSJ4 Full power and already on SSB level
That's not bad, you know.
The Gohan that Broly fought in movie 10 is set before the World Tournament or Gohan retraining for Goku's return from the after life. Gohan was still weaker there then at his peak in the Cell Games or even after his retraining with Goten to the World Tourney.
See the picture, that Gohan was actually considerably stronger than the one from the Cell Games. He still got wrecked.
In M10 Broly is in between SSJ2 and SSJ3, he has basically the same power as 2 SSJ2.
>with enough time
No, Salagir, that's not how works.
>defeated by SS2 Gohan, SS Gotenk and Trunks Kame Hame-Ha
Not even SS3 tier as I said
>b-but Toei told me he did something ridiculously exaggerated!
Man I like how Brody is supposed to be the chosen one who got a one of a kind transformation that could btfo gods given enough time
but he's a retarded man child who goes apeshit the moment someone says Kakarot and is too dumb to train or do much of anything
This is a good time to remember that even SS4 can look cool if you actually have some drawing skills
Seriously, where's the "Gohan is popular" meme coming from? There's a reason Toriyama was basically forced to keep Goku.
They tried Gohan as MC after the Cell saga, and people bitched. So it went away.
>nobody mentioned the actual best transformation Super Saiyan 1000000000000
Did you guys all forget
>They tried Gohan as MC after the Cell saga, and people bitched.
They did bitch about it. But the real reason he didn't become the new MC was Toriyama thought he wouldn't be a good MC so he scrapped the idea.
Don't give two fucks.They went for the anime design of Black, that is actually is pretty shity.
Just some examples of what people though about Gohan being the new MC back when the manga was still being published:
>I read somewhere that Goku got killed by Cell and couldn't be brought back to life ?
>Why is this ??
>Did he get killed by Cell ??
>Really a Dragonball Z without Goku seems pretty pointless to me at the moment....
>I really don't think DBZ without Goku as lead character will be worth watching. Besides, what's next? Dragonball ZZ? End it the way it is ...
>Personal opinion: DBZ's popularity will fade without Goku, Trunks and Piccolo. Guess we'll see.
>Oh my god.... A super-saiya-jin Gohan fighting bank robbers? ... I guess it is still too early to put down the new series .... But Gohan fighting bank robbers?????Ahhhhhhhhh .... This is starting to look like Gundam ZZ .
>This is really getting grotesque. Analogy time: I've started to consider Dragonball ZZ being to DBZ what BGCrash! was to BGCrisis -- a bad idea. A REAL bad idea. Sorry to be so negative, but everything from Goku's death onwards just sounds like drek. Sigh.
(Note: "Dragonball ZZ" is what some people at the time referred the series as when Gohan became the main character)
>It's interesting: these three seem to stay in the same positions, poll after poll, most of the time. Although Gohan seems to have taken a beating recently. "Super Saiya Man" my a***, the boy needs a wardrobe.
>I think the best point to end it would have been at the end of the Cell saga. Gohan was just, plain AWESOME! Now, he's turning into Super Saiyan to defeat bank robbers. Blech!
>n the MOST RECENT episodes, Goku is DEAD and the attention has shifted over to Gohan, who is now entering High School. I refuse to watch this.
>Goku is and always will be :) the protagonist, although lately ...
>Amazing ... Gohan out of top 20!! Maybe his new image is not that good as the old one ...
>Yeah, I preferred him when he was fighting Cell. It seems to me that he's gotten weaker. One thing I noticed that really bugged me was when he stopped the bank robbers, he turned Super Saiyan. Now, if little Goku can knock down a 500 lb. wrestler with a tap with his finger, what's a Super Saiyan's punch and kick supposed to do to a bank robber?!!!!
>Gohan has become a grade A loser.
Broly thought Goten was Goku.
Broly thought Gohan was Goku.
Toei also confirmed in other games and supplemental material for Revenge of Broly/movie 10 that Goku was just there being support, not actually contributing to the Ki blast duel.
Can I see actual evidence of fandom at the time in Japan actively "bitching" about Gohan taking the spotlight and lead from Goku leading to him come back? My own issue is that the Buu Saga was supposed to be about the kids aside from Gohan, Goten and Trunks being shitted on and shafted still leaves a sore taste in my mouth.
And here's my response.
>Akira Toriyama: I intended to put Gohan into the leading role. It didn’t work out. I felt that compared to Goku, he was ultimately not suited for the part.
Gohan at the time after the Cell Saga but before the Boo began arc was the most popular character in DBZ.
In most of posts, people are generally complaining about how Gohan's character changed and the tone shift from Cell to Saiyaman, some even say they liked Cell arc Gohan. Which I would say is being unfairly too quick to judge because it's before story even picks up.
If you actually paid attention to the Boo arc you would see Toriyama's struggle with how he wanted to even write Gohan as the MC. Fans bitching wouldn't have changed anything.
His Ex-Editor would have though
If you're talking about the manga, SSG is already strong as fuck and that shit and SSB is stronger but is consumed faster.
Happily SSG is already strong enough in the manga so is useful combined with SSB, which is the overpowered form. Think of SSG and SSB in the manga as SSB and SSBKK in the anime.
except that gap between SSG and SSB isn't that big and SSG isn't a jobber form as SSB is in the anime you know
he gets all of Z and probably the girls will be focused in Super
but these two will only get like one more filler gotenks episode
Funny thing in the later poll>>154761210
Freeza is in the top 10 (9)
yet he's beaten by Yamcha (8).
When I asked "Proof?" I meant in response to Toriyama changing Gohan back to Goku as MC because of fans bitching,not for fan reponses
Future trunks and kid trunks are literally different characters
Future had all had his friends die and has a shit tons of daddy issues and came from a post apocalyptic world
Kid is just a goofy kid who can go super Saiyan
I don't think they're the gold everyone says they are, but there were certainly some great tracks in there
As for the old Funi music, it strafed the line of FANTASTIC and utter shit.
The first part of the Funi Ginyu Force theme is fucking fantastic.
The second part with the guitars is some of the worst trash I've ever head the displeasure of hearing.
>Future Trunks is a caring and considerate guy who is constantly training and doesn't fuck around with his enemies because he saw nearly everyone he cared about getting killed
>Kid Trunks is a spoiled brat who neglects training and gets cocky/fucks around when he is fighting the enemy
Kid Trunks needs more suffering to become a better person.
Probably that they've got all the same resources that U7 has
I would expect to see a Red or Blue Cabba
A Silver Frost
An ever expanding Pooh Bear
The Lava Robot but with ear plugs
Hit, but he also takes off his Jacket and absorbs two androids
then probably have Buu 6
Cabba's gay jobbing half-breed son with unlimited potential
I love how Champs is scared but he forgets that pic related is literally unbeatable if he doesn't have a mental breakdown
Anime or manga, it was a pretty one sided fight. Vegeta couldn't damage him at all until he stumbled upon his weakness
Holy shit this episode was actually really fucking good
Where are the animationfags and choreographyfags?
Goku vs Toppo was a pretty good fight, it's a shame Grand Priest McMahon stepped in and be like ''save it for the main event''