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Looks like it's finally the Goku vs Lorax day, only 5 hours and 18 minutes
This is gonna be good
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>>154736788 #
> implying toyo didnt fuck up
Hahahaha. Toyo is a hack he forgot that trunks is goku ss3 tier and that black base was that as well. Vegeta beats black's shit it makes no sense but safe's face next chapter by correcting himself by saying that black was just baiting for zenkai. This chapter he forgets again a lore that he made up during u6. His fans going to point it out again and will correct himself in the following chapter
/a/ goes full toyo is /our/ guy when in fact he is a hack
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Reminder Naughty little boys should get a timeout
"Shill"
"Cuck"
"Kek"
"Pedro"
If you see any of these words associated with "Toei" or "Toyo", it is a clear indicator you're dealing with a child and it is your duty as adults to guide them on the right path
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javascript:quote('154736962')

He was busy with trunks.

Stop shitposting and and try to justify your useless and meaningless manga trunks.
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Anyone else feel sorry for Toeihsills? They continually defend a shitty anime made by a company who exploits them constantly, it would be funny if it weren't so depressing
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>>154736935
>Those ugly watermark
Sheesh it shows the attention whorism of the DB fanbase
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proof that the anime is better than the manga
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BMri6c2SgUM
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>>154737075
Manga isnt any better desu.
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>>154737065
>Implying being shot without surprise is the same than being shot by surprise.
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>>154736935
>Facebook
Niggers need to leave
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>immediately into anime vs manga
I don't know why mods even allow these threads anymore.
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>>154737099
see
>>154737043
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How would you describe Goku and Vegeta's relationship?
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>>154737075
Manga is also that retard.

BOTH ARE SHIT!

Toriyama fuck you all in the ass while you're wasting your times defending two shitty version from a shitty company and a fanfic-tier writer.
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>>154737099
>everyone was bitching about youtube videos when I posted the video explaining how Zamasu was a shit villain
Now it's ok apparently.

Reminder that Zamasu is a shit villain https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hQGov2c7lnk
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>>154737171
>>Here are arguments presented in a video
>Nuh uh doesn't count
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>>154737171
>I can't watch things
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>>154737107
>>154737189
Toeishills right on cue
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>>154737189
It hurts anon. Make it stop I just wanted a good follow up not this shitty mess.
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>>154737220
>>154737229
>i can't explain it so i'll let someone else do it for me!
Like I said, present the argument yourself.
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>>154737234
> implying I am a filthy toeifag
Dude I had my hopes on toyo but he isnt delivering anything good in a while. Biggest problem was that the anime ruined the trunks arc which had a lot of potential. Toyo started off strong but Its slowly looking like another mess
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>>154737234
Lol sure autism from both sides rears its ugly head in these threads, but I will never lie and say these reaction images you guys put are not great lol.
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>>154737214
>2:42-2:59
Glad Toyotaro fixed this by making Black and Zamasu plan to do the Zero Humans Plan in all timelines. Making them a greater threat.
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>>154735806
Done

I know I'm a shit tier drawfag, but I think I did a decent job
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You now remember toryiama not being a hack
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>>154737427
Useless because it's dumb since everyone is now aware of them.

Just warn the other gods from other timelines then it's good.

How can you defend this?
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Jesus I actually hope Mods come to ban all of you fucks. This place is a shitstain on the board, Toeifaggots especially. They're a lot more vocal then ever and they STILL think Mangafaggots are the root of the problem.
Take a good look at some of the archived threads and tell me if Toeifaggots are doing good. Most of the posts I've read were filled with tracetaro, or toyocuck, or toyopedro. It's sad and honestly it needs to be purged.
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>>154737495
> implying the success of dragon ball didnt come from his editors
He was always an hack super is toryiama with all the control and it sucks
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>>154737542
You are not subtile at all you know?
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>>154737474
I want to fuck young baba.
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>>154737474
So, how about that upskirt, anon?
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>>154737542
Both sides are shit its only getting more cancerous because both anime and manha are getting shittier and shittier so there is more to complain
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>>154737586
Look at yourself
JUST LOOK AT YOUR FUCKING SELVES!!!! HOW CAN YOU DEFEND YOU'RE AUTISTIC PARADE SO MUCH!?
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"T-Toyotaro makes way more sense than the anime
>SSG returns out of nowhere with no explanation
"It's ok he never absorbed it in the manga
>SSB given bullshit explanation in the manga
"I-I-It makes perfect sense!
>Trunks given bullshit SS2 powerup with no explanation

"A-At least he doesn't get some dumb SSR form!"
>Vegeta as a normal SSJ beats SSJ Black who beat SSJ2 Trunks in base even though Trunks is SSJ3 tier

"s-s-shut up Black tiers made no sense in the anime!"
>SSJ Black beats SSB Vegeta
>SSG Vegeta now beats SSR Black by spamming SSB despite the critical weakness

Is there anything more pathetic than mangafags?
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>>154737628
>You're
my mistake.
your*
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>>154737555
Literally this.

We need the editor from the Cell Saga to come back. He's the true master mind.
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>>154737542
The whole DBS anime x manga shit flinging is pure cancer and should be banned from /a/, nothing good ever comes out of it.
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>>154737658
>>SSG returns out of nowhere with no explanation
Wait

For

The

Chapter
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>manga and anime is shit

Oh wow, it's almost like Dragon Ball Super is some kind of shit or something!!
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>>154737658
Yes, Super
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Let's just settle it, bros. I want the shitposting to end.

Anime or Manga?
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>>154737710
The chapter already released anon. Goku vs Hit. Go read it
We never got an explanation for why Goku can now use SSG at will. Sorry your excuse doesn't work anymore
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>>154737727
It is literally gt 2.0 except this time the mess is canon
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>>154737780
>We never got an explanation for why Goku can now use SSG at will.
Did you forget Goku went SSG after almost being knocked out in the movie?
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>>154735876
Working on it

>>154737620
Anon NO

>>154737777
Uh, I like both
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So, those who hate inconsistencies, have a preference to manga's art, love SSG, and love goku and vegeta prefer the manga.

Those who doesn't give a shit about inconsistencies, want to see more character, more slice of life and more epic story prefer the anime.

Am i right?
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>>154737777
Both are trash
Nice quads though
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>>154737777
Anime for compelling and interesting villians/character

Manga for logical powercaling.
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>>154737147
>Ningens need to leave
Fixed
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>>154737658
PART
OF
THE
FUCKING
PROBLEM

"SSG returns out of nowhere with no explanation"
It's safe to say no one liked the Saiyan beyond god shit, even the anime retconned it by having Trunks be able to fight Goku in SSJ3.

Are you fucking kidding? You think he wouldn't transform into a SSJ2 in the time period he had?

This third point is the only thing I agree with

Zenkai power ups give more power the more stronger you are. Vegeta went from 18 000 to 21 000, whereas Goku went from somewhere in the ten thousands to 3 million.
I'd say wait for the chapter for this next detail.
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>>154737842
>and more epic story
Shouldn't this apply to the manga instead?
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>>154737835
Come on man, you know you want it too.
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>>154737842
But both are inconsistent
Its more :
Mangafags →because toryiama's closer involvement
Animefags→muh action durr
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>>154737891
Not really to me.

The ost, some great scenes, the seiyuu make it more epic.
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>>154737777
Manga
Better art and writing etc

Anime
Laughing at QUALITY and memes
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>>154737886
>Are you fucking kidding? You think he wouldn't transform into a SSJ2 in the time period he had?
I'm talking about his SSJ2 suddenly having a new secret powerup that lets it match SSJ3 Goku.
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>>154737931
You guys are too focused on Mangafags to see your own mistakes. Look at all toeifaggot posts and do tell me that you are not acting like children?
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>>154737842
>>154737842
I watch anime for the fightscenes and for the SoL stuff
I read manga for an alternate interpretation and for background information
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How come nobody is complaining about this:
It's already bean established that Universe 7 is superior to Universe 6 because they beat them at the tournament (which was supervised by Zeno sama himself), and U7's Hakaishin is stronger than U6's Hakaishin.
Now what kind of mental gymnastic should I use to reach a conclusion that U6 is above U7.
>Toei animations as it's finest
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>>154737985
Oh, that makes more sense.
Considering SSJ3 is just SSJ2 times 4, It's safe to say Trunks is about 4 times stronger in base to manage that.
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>>154737842
But the anime completely fails at being epic.
>Saitama vs Boros
>dat Moon kick
That was epic
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>>154737915
THIS
anon knows whats up
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>>154737979
Of course it has better art, it's a manga.

>Better writing

Better explained situation indeed but more boring and less interesting.
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>>154738031
because hit threw the tournament
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I just want the AnimeVsManga thing to be over

Why the fuck can't it just end?
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>>154737777
I only read the manga because I like it more than the anime and I don't want to invest too much time on DB.

The only things I miss about the anime were the voice acting and OST.
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>Implying anything in the manga can match this
https://youtu.be/VqmdRps_j00

Meanwhile he just has a boring fusion in the manga.
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>>154738051
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mPzu61CmNFw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KBG-MYeYxOY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nAZyiZVTUFA

The fuck are you saying?
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>>154738102
NINGENS BTFO
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>>154738078
Would /a/ be comfortable with a
>/dbg/: Anime Edition
>/dbg/: Manga Edition
?
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>>154738003
same here, i love SSG but its return on the manga makes no sense
I wish Toriyama retconned SSG shit during RoF writing so Goku would look red using god ki while Vegeta would look blue
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>>154738124
>all lame as fuck
Meh
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>>154737915
If toryiama didnt supervised the manga I am 100% sure there would be no toyofags
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>>154738182
Literally shit taste.
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should I whale for black coming in global dokkan or no?
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>>154738211
Doesn't mean much coming from you.
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>>154738102
>that kick to trunks
Black is stylish as fuck
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>>154738124
Seeing trunks being more a hero-like was great.
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>>154738169
Yeah, it would be better if we had separate threads.
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>>154738108
>ningen zero keikaku
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>>154738240
Show me a more epic scene in the manga
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>>154738288
>moving the goalpost
I didn't say anything about the manga and I already gave you an example.

>Saitama vs Boros
>dat Moon kick
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>>154738360
>Literally retarded
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>>154738102
Never noticed this until now
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>>154738376
>irony the post
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Alright you guys can you clear this up for me?
Animefags are getting to vocal but I cant find a thing to shit them up this time. Any toyobro who got the anseer to this supposedly "plot hole".
These fuckers jump to conclusions every time same happened last chapter with the time machine.
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>>154738360
You know epicness can also come from all the build-up until the end right?

It's not just animation or absurd power.
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>>154738409
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>>154738433
Wait until full chapter is out
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Whis is for _____________
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>>154738108
Can that forehead get any bigger?
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The fights in the manga have sucked. The anime had way more fun battles
Like this : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7MbrEemIRUI
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>>154737777
Anime, no contest. Manga is just boring.
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>>154738480
It doesn't match Headgeta in the slightest.


Does anyone have that one picture?>>154738484
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>>154738409
>>154738461
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>>154738480
SHUT YOUR MOUTH NINGEN
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>>154737542
you're right Toyocuck, this place it's a shit contaminent board when there's not new material.
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>>154738443
That's really what the anime has in spades for the arc.
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>>154738433
probably something about turning god into blue reverse repeatedly is different than turning base/super saiyan into blue and the reverse
it might be an explanation why Vegeta is bothering using God at all, but it's all speculation though
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>>154738475
Vegeta
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>>154738443
>all the build-up
This arc barely had any of that.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XebyKpo6A9s
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>>154738272
That ningen zero plan was actually good, too bad it didn't work
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>>154738480
Can't get any bigger than the prince of all foreheads.
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>>154738475
Throat fucking, dominating, impregnating.
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>>154738521
We also loves the memes from QUALITY.

What are you up to?
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Do you think they'll bring along an audience for the survival tournament?

Or am I going to have to go a whole arc without my waifu.
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>>154738564
The manga has none.
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>>154738579
l-lewd
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>>154738593
Maybe trunks will watch this tournament in the manga, is good at it.
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>>154738521
What if the sword is actually magical?
There is no explanation yet where did Trunks got that sword or where it come from
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>>154738625
Again never said anything about the manga, why so butthurt?
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>>154738593
Is That your waifu desu?? looks like one annoying bitch
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>>154738124
>That big kamehameha

Thoses scenes were great and epic.
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>>154738433
Toyo dropped the ball
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>>154738521
>>154738673
someone probably just fucked up
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Am I the only one who likes this form more than the recolor hair forms?
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>>154738700
His waifu is probably cuter than yours.
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>>154738790
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>>154738673
The freaking thing breaks and reappears dozens of times in the series so I won't be surprised if that was the case.
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>>154738790
Same, loved it, just wish it was better explained.
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>>154738790
It's good, but i think it should have been explained at least
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Has anyone else noticed that this tournament literally has exactly the same rules as Super Smash Brothers, an arena that is almost like Final Destination and a contestant that is literally Fox and Marth fused together into a single character?

One of the competing Universes is literally Universe 20XX and they're sending their most overpowered fighters combined for this kind of game.

And it seems like they've been training for it too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CFT8ti5JIp4
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>>154738824
>Implying overdose of SSG is better
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>>154738790
>SSJ with blue and yellow instead of just yellow
>Not a recolor
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>>154738790
One of my favourites In the series,i'ts a shame that the hype was killed by that bad animation in the next episode
Classic Dragon ball
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>>154738902
Ok there's been 3 times since God has been used. One for battle of gods
Two for the Hit fight
Three for Black arc
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>>154739016
>Easily ass blasted if something doesn't go his like a child
Mmmm
https://u.nya.is/kcmplb.mp4
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>>154738977
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>>154738475
sexual
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>>154739061
Then go back to being himself by laughing about it.

What are you implying?
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http://imgur.com/a/rat6i
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So alpha
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>>154737555
>All the control
Fucking retard. He doesn't even write the shit, he gives Toyo and Toei a VERY broad outline and lets them go to town as he profits doing very little. Toei, being the company who wrote GT, fucks up at every turn. Battle of Gods the movie was Toriyama being actively involved.
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>>154739061
EASILY assblated.
E A S I L Y
Black is a crybaby more and more and more often in the manga.
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>>154739150
>implying the same wouldn't happen to you if you were in his situation
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>>154739150
If I had a nickel for Toriyama forgetting how durable his characters are supposed to be.
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>>154739150
He can't help it, saiyan blood is flowing through his veins.
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>>154738894
>Smugpup literally starts air cancelling and wavedashing
>minna miteite kure
>COME AWN
>FIRE FIRE FIRE

MISSHOHN COHWPWEEH
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>>154736935
>ORIGINAL CONTENT, DONUT STEEL
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>>154739230
Wish RoF didn't have the hate, this part was 10/10 on movie release
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>>154739144
>Trunks getiing his ass handled off screen
>Future zamasu being a failure
>No epicness in vegeta's fight.

Wow.
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>>154739144
Any based japanese speakers here who can translate the full manga?
Ch22 here
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>Vegeta trains in the Hyperbolic Time Chamber
>now has Super Saiyan God
>beats the shit out of Black by rapidly switching between SSG and SSB (which makes no sense because Whis has already stated that using SSB in succession lowers it's strength) without Black noticing

Toyotoro's AF
>Vegeta trains in Dr. Briefs' time room
>now has Legendary Super Saiyan
>beats the shit out of Xicor by rapidly switching between SS3, SS4 and LSS without Xicor noticing

I like the manga and the anime, but this is a blatant rehash from Toyo's AF, and just plain lazy.
I've posted this twice now, and nobody has been able to defend it other than "b-b-but Vegeta's always has SSG, h-he's just never used it".

>>154739144
>that fusion
Well that was disappointing
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>be me

>see some stuff about the new chapter

>"Wait, is Vegeta changing between SSG and SSB everytime..? Shit Toyo, you fucking forgot the cooldown."

>go into this thread

>walls of shitposting for one mistake

That's why everyone hates this fanbase.
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>>154739144
>Goku actually tries to stop them from fusing.
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>>154739384
Still useless.

At least in the anime, they don't even bother.
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>>154739341
It might even be explained in the chapter. We haven't seen everything, but people just assume. That's why these threads are a fucking disaster every time the manga leaks.
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>>154738894
It's happening
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>>154739384
Ofc Toyo Goku is way better than Toei Goku.
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>>154737134
>>Implying being shot without surprise is the same than being shot by surprise.
skip to 1:40
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C5zu7NIXjAs
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Vegeta does switches on and off ssb/ssg.
SADLY toyo forgot to explain how without contradicting whis statement
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>>154739288
Not to mention Shin attacking Black like a retarded
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>>154739409
>At least in the anime, they don't even bother.
Because they are saiyans and saiyans love fight stronger enemies?
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>>154739324
>this retard actually thinks you can go SSGSS without have SSG power
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>>154739230
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>>154739483
Do you know japanese? If not, wait for the translations at least.
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>>154739464
The bullet was made by fucking bulma.

The smartest person in DB remember?

The one who made a time machine?
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>>154739230
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>>154739499
>like a retarded
What did he mean by this?
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>>154739533
Ok so fucking what? Why can't she produce more tech that'll put Z fighters to shame?
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>>154739384
You can't fuse with a corpse?
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>>154739524
Yes I read the whole thing. It was just goku saying vegeta turns ssb on and off when trunks asked how vegeta can beat him in ssg.
No explanation to it what so ever
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>>154739524
We could get smugpup if he's around to translate for us.
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>>154739558
He mean Shin didn't learn his lesson since Buu
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>>154739582
>source: my ass
Post proof.
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>>154739533
Red Ribbon made the strongest android that ever existed and Cell. Your point?
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>>154739626
>spics
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So is Zamasu canonically dead in the manga'?
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Black manga is a fucking jobber man
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>>154739640
This is where he explains it to trunks.
Thats it there was no panel where he explained how he did it without contradicting chapter 13.
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>>154739626
Can Shin ever have a time to shine?
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>>154739464
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C5zu7NIXjAs

Goku had a power level of less than 100 in that video and his guard was down. How the fuck did Black with a PL in the Trillion gets hurt by a bullet?
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>>154739667
Gero did it by himself retard and he needed Freezer/saiyans and other DNA.

I swear to god mangacuck don't even know DB.
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>>154739726
No.
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>>154739705
Meant Gowasu*
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>>154739723
How can mangafags ever recover???!!
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>>154739723
I'm asking for proof that there's no explanation. That means post the entire chapter.
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>this wind effect when they become gods
I fucking love it
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Anyone else finds the way Toyo draws Goku weird? He always makes him look cute.
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>>154739144
Why does Zamasu grab Black and yell at his face for?
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>Shin attempting to attack Black
This shit is terrible.
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>>154739705
No, are you reading the link over there??
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>>154739813
Are you fucking stupid see >>154739144
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>>154739837
Damn Manga Shin has balls.
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I hate damage controlling, but if it must come to that I will
Super Saiyan God is a byproduct of God Ki
Super Saiyan Blue is Super Saiyan plus God Ki
Whis's statement could have referred to depowering completely, instead of depowering to a form that still uses God Ki. Really all they need to do is just transform into a super saiyan while using SSG and bam Blue is made.
>>154739837
I'm sure DBZ must have been terrible when Shin tried to attack Majin Buu
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>>154739745
I've watched DB, Dr Flappe made Android 8 who was way stronger than Goku but didnt like fighting. You're the retard here.
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>>154739813
Mangacuck are really that retarded.
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>>154739837
>Zamasu vs Shin off-screen

Still mad about this
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>>154739582
First Toyo inconsistency so I don't care, actually, but still a real shame. Thanks for the translation
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>>154739907
> all headcanon
No its a plot hole and toyo fucked up without giving us a proper explanation to it
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>>154739916
>wanting a rape scene in a manga for kids
Anon let that work to doujin artists
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>>154739935
Not the first, but the whole DB series is riddled with inconsistencies. It's not like one more is going to kill everything
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>>154739912
So just use your brain if you have one please.

Present bulma can't make a time machine which means she's not skilled enough yet.

Future bulma can so what about powerful bullet used with surprise effect?
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Updated.
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Okay, out of everything, I think this scene was actually pretty good. Trunks knows how powerless he is and feels responsible for Gowasu's presumed death.
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>>154739958
It's just me trying to squeeze knowledge. Perhaps Toyo wanted us to make this conclusion? Who knows when a Q and A comes someone will probably ask him about it
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>>154739726
He's part of the second most broken (Or aparently third most broken) race in the show, so I still dont know why he is unable to catch up.
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Both the Super Manga and Anime are equally shit so why do you people argue? Super is terrible, its GT tier.
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>>154739912
Dr Flappe shit was Toei filler
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>>154739907
>Damaging control that much.

Everyone know manga is shit know.

Get over it.

>>154739935
>Toyotaro can make mistake
>Anime can't

So why complaning about inconsistencies in the anime?

At least, it isn't Goku and Vegeta's show.
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>>154740002
>vegeta becomes best super sayain, super sayain God in the manga

Why did no one tell me?
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>>154740033
Still headcanon son. There is nothing to conclude if nothing has been said.
Also not his first inconsistency so who cares.
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>>154739510
>b-b-but Vegeta's always has SSG, h-he's just never used it
>literally proving my point
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>>154739998
The only way to hurt someone with ki like his is have higher equal ki. Is that a super bullet god? This shit is as dumb as Goku getting scratched by a bullet even though he shrugged off rockets and bullets as a weak kid.
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I prefer the manga but objectively this is a bad chapter.
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>>154740059
Bergamo is not shit though
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>>154739935
>First Toyo inconsistency
sure thing buddy
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>>154740002
>vegeta gets SSG in the manga
how?
the hyperbolic training time?
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>>154740150
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPZszcH-U5Y


Really?
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>>154740153
Same here maybe he explains it next chapter...
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>>154740082
>mistakes
>Toyo 1
>Toei 12381220

nice try, though
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>Majin Buu was a big enough problem for the Supreme Kai himself to visit Earth
>But not enough of a problem for the Supreme Kai to inform Beerus so Buu could be HAKAI'd
Wut? Even if Beerus was sleeping, the prospect of all of Universe 7 being erased would've been enough to at least wake him up right?
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>>154737777
Anime.
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>>154740082
>Super
>Not Goku and Vegeta show

KEK
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>>154740150
I swear to god mangafags doesn't know shit about DB itself.
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>>154740186
Off screen ritual
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>>154740153
Yeah, not a fan of this chapter either. Hope the next one makes up for it.
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>>154740179
>memes
Wow I see a lot of inconsistencies now thank you dude
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>>154740225
If Toriyama wasn't making this shit up as he went along, Shin would've had Beerus HAKAI Buu while he was sealed eons ago.
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>>154740028
>Trunks doesn't want another Kaioshin dying
Why is Torankusu so pure? ;_;
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>>154737777
Manga.
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>>154740256
>Seeing more character
>Trunks being useful
>The resistance
>Slice of life
>Better motivation

You didn't watch the anime did you?
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>>154740214
Super is shit. It's like they decided to make Toei filler canon.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZpHeodMmXzM
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>>154740265
Sweet
glad to see goku followed up on his "next time it'll be you" in the manga
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>>154740082
A few mistakes doesn't make something shit. When it's riddled with mistakes that's when you call the line. If you guys are trying to argue that the manga is bad, then that's fine and dandy. Trying to say that the anime is better with all of it's flaws? That's where I'm going to draw the line

I don't even hate the anime, I watch the latest episode when it releases and I enjoy it, but is it better then the manga? In some aspects, but not most.
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>>154739613
Don't know why he should translate for us, this literally just happened in the last thread. He translates stuff for us every other thread and helps out quite often on a whim and most people tell him to go kill himself.

If I were him I'd probably move to new and better places, but he still seems to stick around and care.
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>>154737777
Manga
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Who did it better?
Manga version flipped for direction
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>>154740256
This, even the Toei filler that Toriyama had no control over the Jelly Vegeta arc ended with Goku and Vegeta despite starting with Goten and Trunks.
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>>154740142
Because that's what happened, so? According to Toriyama they can only go SSGSS after obtain SSG power (from movies), so if in the manga they can go SSG at will instead just use its power in base, Vegeta going SSGSS means he can go SSG, there's no debate.
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>>154740373
Anime
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>>154740373
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>>154740338
It's entertaining, has some good OST, slice of life, more characters, seiyuu...etc

The manga has good point but beside being easily more coherent, the story isn't more appeling.
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One thing that pissed me off is SSrBlack Jobbing to SSg vegeta, i'm a blackfag so for me this is a really shitty chapter
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>>154740153
Not bad at all but pretty regular yeah, I hope next one is better Toyotaro already proven us he can do it better
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>>154740373
manga one looks best in its actual direction
in the same direction as the anime one, anime wins
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>>154740373
That part was actually good in the anime, you can see how an immortal is screaming like a bitch
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>LE BULMBA BULLETE XDDDD
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GpFujG_x5YE
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>>154740307
Because Torankusu is the best boy anon
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>>154740379
Did you stop watching the anime since a year?
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How was Vegeta able to achieve Super Saiyan Blue without SSJ3 or SSG?
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>>154740373
anime, it was glorious to see Zamasu screaming like a bitch
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Looks like the "seal" was wrapped up.
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>>154740385
Doesn't exuse Toyo's blatant and lazy AF rehash though
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>movies
>they have SSG power in base

>manga
>they have SSG form at will


>Vegeta having SSG power in the movie is ok
>Vegeta having SSG form in the manga isn't
How? It's exactly the same thing
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I'm sorry but this just reads like a bad fanfiction right now. Toyotaro just comes up with stuff out of his ass but he doesn't do it in a way that turns out good like Toriyama used to do.
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>>154740440
Sorry but it is, I liked the previous and previous chapter but here it feels so rushed with the offscreen fight, the actual fight are also less better than the previous one.
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>>154740507
>>
Chapter is a 4/10 for me
> too much talking that leads to nothing that we dont already know
> poor rushed fighting scenes
> inconsistency
Just meh...
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>>154740465
>>154740307

>Caring more about gowasu than the dead humans of his own universe

Really?
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>>154739144
The manga may be boring, undercharacterized, and gives no one time in the spotlight but Goku and Vegeta, but at least it looks better than the anime, right guys?
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>>154740477
3 is not needed for god, god is an alternate path

>>154740520
I think toyotaro just wanted some indicator that they are using god ki without going blue and using god ki in base form doesn't look flashy
well, no use to cry over spilled milk
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>>154740520
It's understable if he has it but SSG was already dropped by Toriyama in the last part of BoG and cucked by SSB when RoF came out
It makes sense but its redudant at this point of the story
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>>154736935
SAY MY NAME!
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>>154740461
>Implying someone who can make a time machine is less worthy than your average army

Do you have a brain?
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>>154740599
QUALITY
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Personally, I like the chapter. Sure the inconsistency and the fusion scene was pretty bad but oh well
I'm glad we got SSG Vegeta and Black jobbing.
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>>154740599
What was he thinking when he draw this?
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>>154740507
>talking shit about something
>be proven wrong
>"OK b-but Toyotaro made some guy smash another dude's head against the ground years ago in a fanmanga and he did it again previous month in DBS!"
OK buddy
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>>154740619
DONUT MAN
>>
>At the tournament they could only go SSB once, but Vegeta's trained & can now go SSB many times without losing power. There, that's settled.
>twitter.com/Herms98/status/843192640619204608
Mangafags: Recovered
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>>154740326
I think this is the only thing I'd agree on, but Toyo still has a chance with Merged Zamasu. Toei didn't exactly do much justice for him
I'd rather Trunks not be useful than be turned into Kirito-tier mary sue
The resistance? There was only 2 people left, besides I'm glad there aren't any people to give Trunks marysue power anymore. Besides, if there's no more humans because the ensuing battle against Merged Zamasu could be a lot more destructive
Slice of Life was also in manga with the kart, but fair point nonetheless
Another good point

Alright as a mangafan I must admit this chapter was disappointing. I hope Toyo does something good with merged Zamasu though
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>>154740646
The fight were better in the previous chapter, it's bad here.
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>>154740685
This chapter feels like Toyo just wanted to be done with the Mafuba stuff quickly.
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>>154740671
HAHAHAHAH TOEISHILLS BTFO

>t-t-t-the translations are already out, retard!!!!
>w-w-w-what can happen in between?!?!?!?!?

Where's that translationfag who said nothing was explained this chapter?
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>>154740671
So who was the fucker saying there was no explanation?
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>>154738902
>overdose
>literally 3 times it has been used
>blue has been spammed to irrelevancy

yeah no manga is better
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>>154740739
asspull=/=explanation
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>>154739483
>>154739582
see
>>154740738
>>154740739
>>154740671
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>>154740546
>that image
FUCKING KEK
i told you fuckers that they were copying multiverse
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>Trained in the Room of Plot Convenience and Asspull (I hate that shit)
>Still asking why is Vegeta doing something he couldn't do before
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>>154740671
> some falseflagging toeishill wanted to make /our/ guy look bad
Not so FAST
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>>154740671
>Powerful form, but with a drawback
>Literally retcon it offscreen
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>>154740685
Then him being in this arc in meaningless.

Killing the main vilains without any build up is tasteless.

>>154740671
Why even using SSG then?
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>>154740671
Of course he mastered SSB in 6 months, but didn't in 3 years before the U6 tournament. Makes sense.
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>>154740613
Toriyama changed SSG for SSG's power in base so? Everytime Goku use god power without go SSGSS he's using SSG's power, the same but SSG is more visual and obvious (so less confusing if we want know how strong their enemies are)
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>>154740343
I wonder what happened to Smugpup to make him so mellow yet hang around in a shithole like this?
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>>154740613
Even looking past the inconsistencies here the use of the form is incredibly contrived.

SSB is stronger in every aspect.

If Vegeta is strong enough as a SSB to hurt black by transforming into it for an instant then why not use the form from the start instead?

SSJG is slower, demonstrated by hit not being able to see SSB movements at all, so it doesn't even make sense he'd be using the form because black would see all its movements before the instant he turns blue.
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>>154740671
/OUR GUY/ saved the day once again
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>>154740619
>>
Toyotaro has ruined my love for Dragon Ball. I can't even comprehend how badly he's fucking up the story now.
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>>154740738
>>154740739
>>154740671
This is pretty funny. That's why the retarded anons who were assuming shit should wait until the full chapter is out.

Unfortunately those retards will never learn and will do the same fucking thing next month.
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>>154740803
Ssb itself costs a lot of stamina according to herms
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>>154740599
>>154740636
>>154740650
>Animefags actually think this is QUALITY
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>>154740671
>At the tournament they could only go SSB once, but Vegeta's trained & can now go SSB many times without losing power. There, that's settled.

HAHAHAHAHAHA TOEISHILLS BTFO ONCE AGAIN

>B-but Toyo fucked up
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>>154740738
>>154740739
>>154740781

Still rushed fight, shitty fusion, off screen fight, useless characters.
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>>154740858
But muh room of memes and asspulls
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>>154740671
Offscreen retcon? is a recovery.

you vindicate all the ridiculous powerjumps in the anime with that logic
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>>154740777
If only Future Gohan and Future Trunks known about it earlier and they would've raped the androids a new one.
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>>154740793
Of course they got 2 new transformations in one year, but didn't in 3 years before the androids attacked. Makes sense.
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>>154740671
>SSB is said ONLY IN THE MANGA to have a high entry cost just so Vegeta jobs to Hit
>Vegeta training for another year solves this and means he can now use it as much as he wants
>even though he trained for 3 years before the U6 tournament
What a load of horse shit. /notmyguy/
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>>154740791
>But even now, Vegeta can't maintain SSB for so long. SSG is weaker but uses less stamina, hence Vegeta's strategy of only going SSB briefly.
>twitter.com/Herms98/status/843193282230341632
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>>154740668
>being proven wrong
How? All I said that nobody has been able to defend Toyo blatantly rehashing AF in this chapter other than by spouting off about Vegeta has always had SSG and never used it. Buddy
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Next month, learn to wait for the full chapter before spouting shit.
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>>154740836
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>>154740868
>Toeishills assblasted already


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>154740671
It's almost like you should wait for the chapter to come out completely and get translated before talking shit.
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>>154740796
During BoG Beerus explained Goku that he absorbed the SSG without noticing, so he has the SSG power while using SS
That's why i say its pretty redundant SSG appearance, the design its cool but when it comes to power base its was already covered
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>>154740913
And he doesn't bother to explain how Vegeta has SSG?
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>>154740781
Ftfy
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>>154740920
They will never learn, anon. This fanbase is fucking retarded.
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>>154740904
This.

If Toyotaro wasn't so FUCKING autistic and didn't make Vegeta job to Hit in the tournament with such a retarded reason because he wants to be le different xD none of this would be happening.
>>
Honestly I dont even know what the fuck is going on anymore,well...at least there is new episode tonight.
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>>154740941
I called it for being contrived as fuck and it still is.
The fact he needed a off-screen retcon to justify this shit only adds to that.
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>>154740960
You can get SSG with the ritual
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>"b-but how SS Black lose against not!Blue Vegeta if he's already SS3 tier in base form? TOYOKEKS BTFO!!"
>*next chapter shows up and Black was just wanting another zenkai*

>"b-but how is Vegeta switching between SSG and SSB if he was unable to go SSB twice in the tournament? TOYOKEKS BTFO!!!"
>*full translation shows up and Vegeta trained to go SSB many times without losing power*

EVERY FUCKING TIME
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>>154740800
Where is he at the moment anyway? He's usually posting by now.
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I really liked how he looked in this panel
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Wtf how could Toyotaro spill so much spaghetti?
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>>154740987
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>>154740546
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>>154741029

Well when you only look and sit on your ass, you sure have to look good.
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>>154741010
Yes, that's how you get SSG. By being the focus of the ritual. This never happened to Vegeta.
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>>154740950
The issue is... that wasn't in the manga. Goku didn't absorb any power.
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>>154741008
Just wai a couple of hours anon
animevs mangafags will start again if Toei forgets that Goku already used SSB+Kaioken and doesn't shows being tired in the new episode
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>>154740913
>He trained so he could do this one specific thing

>instead of focusing on mastering his use of the form so it doesn't drain as much stamina.

Toyble can't write for shit and this only shows how forced all of the events in the manga are.
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>>154741029
He looks so manly ordering Mai to run away from Black.
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>>154741023
Toeishills always fail to win
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Herms explained everything.

How will Toeicucks recover?

https://twitter.com/Herms98
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>>154740671
How does it change anything now? Weren't mangafags saying that using SSB this much was bullshit because "muh drawbacks" and that SSB in the anime didn't make sense? If he can use it all the time why use SSG?
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>>154740402
Zamasu = Giygas
Black = Pokey
Trunks = Ness
Mai = Paula
Bulma = Jeff
Vegeta = Poo
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Wow I don't even know what to think anymore Toyotaro has lost the plot. Sad.
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>>154740668
Toeishills can't help but double down.It's depressing.
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Again how did Vegeta achieved SSG??
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How did he went from this......
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>>154741023
>Vegeta trained to go SSB many times without losing power*
This doesn't make any sense. We're supposed to buy that a year's time was enough for Vegeta to somehow neutralize Blue's entry cost, while boosting his overall power level to being high enough to beat Black (whose SS form was beating SSB Vegeta), and yet he still can't maintain Blue for along? All while he's already had Blue for three years of training with Goku? This is contrived and makes no sense.
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>>154740671
>Toeishills didn't wait for the full chapter and got btfo AGAIN

Nothing
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>>154740759
So we can gather that Super Saiyan Blue is an incredibly taxing form (not on the level of super saiyan 3) and it's because of this that the strength is weakened after reuse. So Vegeta trained to make it less taxing (like what Gohan and Goku did) allowing the form to be reused more readily.
I'll admit it links up quite well. The only thing that sucks about this chapter is the Merged Zamasu thing, but other than that...
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>>154741004
I'll explain it to you
>leaks release
>Toeishills and Retards complain about an "inconsistency" in the manga
>>Wait for the full chapter

>We get SOME translations
>Toeishills and Retards complain about an "inconsistency" in the manga
>>Wait for the full chapter

>Toeishills and Retards say that most of the chapter/translations and nothing will explain said "inconsistency"
>>Wait for the full chapter

>Chapter releases
>Toeishills and Retards BTFO
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>>154741024
I'm here, I'm just lurking, sorry I haven't been posting, just haven't been in the mood. A few threads back I expressed that I wasn't that happy with the whole anime and manga shitposting and infighting, and for a while people actually talked about things and discussed their opinions. Next thread everything was back to the same old again.

I dunno it's just a little demotivating. That time when everyone settled down for a while was pretty nice though. I'm just going to go back to lurking unless somebody really needs me.
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>>154741125
....To this?
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>>154741128
Anon if you didn't see it clearly Vegeta trained his ass of to get stronger. Probably every single day in the chamber was spent trying to get stronger/minimising weaknesses
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>>154741023
This only really shows how ameteurish toyble's writing really is.

Hamfisted explanations after the fact is just damage control, specially when there wasn't a hint in the previous chapter that would make one naturally assume that.
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Manga inconsistency count : 0
Anime: 8285749205720

Toeishills you MAD?
CANON AND SUPERIOR
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Where did this Hit doughnuts meme come from?
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>>154741156
>Kakinefag acting pretentious again
Go back to Kazenshuu autismo kid
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>>154741233
Black was so much stronger than Vegeta his Super Saiyan was beating Super Saiyan Blue. A fucking year isn't nearly enough time to clear that difference.
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>>154741156
>Only merged zamasu suck
>Not the off screen fight
>Not the rushed fight
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>>154741251
You always get btfo because you can't defend manga and its shitty characters with 0 Zero personality.
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>>154741122
How did he achieved SSGSS?
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>>154741244
This, this really comes off as Toyotaro reaching hard just to cover up his poor writing.
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>>154741125
>>154741169
By reading the chapter?
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>>154741128

Gohan went from Form 1 Frieza tier to Super Columbine 2 in one year.

Going from using Blue once to using Blue more times + higher base is less bullshit.
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>>154741304
>reaching hard
The irony
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>>154741156
>Raildexcuck
Opinion discarded.
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>>154741275
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-pUSkxJxgc&ab_channel=Inundated
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>>154741322
>Implying no progress is good as long as it's explained
>Shit motivation is good
>Less involved characters=better
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>Goku does that IT thing again

BASED TOYO
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>>154741167
Oh ok, I understand, take care though.
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>>154741029
Trunks looks great
Mai looks kinda weird
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>>154735876
>Can you make a loli Gine after you end this one?

Here you go, anon. Hope you like it.

I couldn't resist and did a kid Bardock too.
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>>154741401
>Goku breathes

based toyo.
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>>154740580
Nobody responded about how retarded it is.

>Trunks caring about gowasu
>No giving shit to dead humans

Really?
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>>154741401
Link for scans?
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>>154741428
Not him, but nice
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>>154740904
>He trained 3 years and still had cooldown so training more time will NEVER remove it
(You)
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>>154741428
Hey man
You know, you can make something for me
It involves Baba
A young Baba
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>>154741128
>>154740793
>>154740904

>This is Toeishills' new excuse now that the chapter is out

HAHAHAHAHAHA, THIS IS GOLD
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>>154741284
Actually, it wouldn't be hard to overcome the difference. Super Saiyan forms are multiplier based. Let's use a power level of 100 000, with super Saiyan it would raise to a level of 5000000. Lets say the fucker gets a powerlevel boost of 10000, thus getting 110 000. His level is going to reach an extraordinary level of 5500000.
It's not hard to get stronger
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>>154741449
>giving shit to dead humans
Well, you answered it yourself. They're dead. What is he going to do? Cut his wrists and cry?
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>>154741008
>training until eliminate a defect is a retcon
SS Goku and SS Gohan post RoSaT is a retcon then?
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>>154741472
Thanks

>>154741501
Anon, stop it
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>>154741378
I still don't get it. What does doughnuts have to do with Hit?
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>>154741353
Gohan is a freak prodigy with potential way beyond Vegeta's, but that gain is absolutely nothing compared to the jumps Vegeta had to make here. You could fit 10,000 Cells in the difference between a Super Saiyan and a Super Saiyan Blue. I'm supposed to accept 1 year was enough not for Vegeta (who is working alone, without Whis or Goku) to NOT ONLY get that much stronger, but ALSO to somehow deal with Blue's energy drain, while somehow now being unable to hold up Blue for long?

This is contrived bullshit. It's a contrived explanation to wipe out Toyo's own bullshit explanation from the Hit fight while also letting him jerk off SSG. How coincidental that Mafuba tired out Goku enough that he can't use Blue, but can use God. Get ready for SSG Vegito!

>>154741492
If going into the form drains energy, then he's fucked. That's biology, he can't train his body to ignore the requirement. That's why SS3 is still useless.
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Never get tired of seeing Toei shills get BTFO time and time again.
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I want to dominate Champa.
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>>154741401
Doesnt goku need to put his finger on his forehead?
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>>154741592
It's time to make the donuts.
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>>154741613
Hi Vados
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>>154741582
JUST FUCK OFF ALREADY, TRACERTARO IS SHIT, DEAL WITH IT
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>>154741592
It's from an old Dunkin' Donuts commercial
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=petqFm94osQ

Time to make the donuts = Time to go to work
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>>154739735
For the same reason a sleeping super saiyan goku got hurt when krillin threw a fucking rock at his head.
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>>154741552
>Literally justifying an shitty ending
>Justifying an inferior trunks

What do he want to save now?

Better just go back to Goku's timeline then let kaioshin warn the other gods from the other timelines then let them handle zamasu and black.

You guys can't defend this.
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>>154741423
It seems like Toyo has trouble drawing Mai sometimes, maybe because she has those distinct eyes.
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>>154741592
>>154741656
Wrong link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XyZtMfMWONI
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>>154741633
No, he did the same against Cell. And Kid Buu. I guess the fingers help focusing
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>>154741656
Is this also in the Japanese version or is this English only?
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>>154741100
Can you mangafags please answer? Because Toyotarou gave some kind of explanation that makes the constant change of form and SSG good?
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>>154741128
>if Vegeta can't do X after 3 years in RoSaT how he can do it after stay even more in RoSaT? This is contrived and doesn't make any sense!
God toeishills are pathetic
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>>154741666
Why don't they do this?

In the anime, I can understand since ningens were still alive, gods not giving shit about other timelines but here?

Why don't kaioshin just warn the other gods from the other timelines?

If they're prepared, Zamasu and Black will not be able to do shit in the other timelines.
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>>154741593
You know the manga is just a promotional, since it runs on V Jump, along Dragon Ball Heroes manga
Guess which transformation has promoting Heroes for his main saiyan characters? :^)
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So this chapter on Goku and vegeta's show
>black keeps jobbing
>Trunks is fucking useless
> Vegeta achieving SSG because reasons
>No goku vs black
>gowasu being magically revived
And some people still call this a good chapter Laughable
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>>154741731
They said that SSG still drain stamina but switching between SSG and SSB isn't now.

Still, he's just overusing SSB, same shit.
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>>154741633
He used IT while charging a Kame Hame ha against Cell
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>>154741666
Kek I'm not trying to justify it, it's just obvious. They're just a bunch of corpses now, what can he do about it? The only thing they can do now is stop merged Zamasu before he fucks up other timelines.
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Honestly How can you people enjoy a manga where the main Villain is a fucking puching bag??,There's no tension at all.
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>>154741772
>gowasu
He was still alive and ate a senzu, you fucking retard.
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>>154741666
Trunks isn't going to stop because all the humans of his world are dead. Zamasu goes beyond Earth
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new episode in 3/4 hours, right?
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>>154741797

It's the exact same scenario as Goku abusing KKx20 against Frieza.
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>>154741284
>implying the difference between Black's SS and SSR is the same as the one between regular SS and SSB

>inb4 b-but SSR is just another version of SSB!
Yeah, which means isn't necessarily as strong and manga even already settled Kaio's ki can cause some difference in the forms (by explaning Black's SSGSS is pink because his Kaio's ki) so a difference in power wouldn't be surprising at all.
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>>154741829
>Not reading the post

He's a copy for you with arrow to know where you need to read:

>>>>>>>>>>Better just go back to Goku's timeline then let kaioshin warn the other gods from the other timelines then let them handle zamasu and black<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
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>>154741772
black deserves to job
he's a fake
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>>154741772
This chapter proved that Toyo is using this arc as a proxy to finish his AF comic
>>154739324
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>>154741731
>>154741100
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>>154741428
CUTE
I love you anon <3
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>>154741797
So that form switch is still bullshit and Black is a jobber.
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>>154741731
>literally said this when the chapter came out
>people said it was head canon
feels good being right.
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>>154741772
>Vegeta achieving SSG because reasons
everyone says this and honestly it confuses me. Achieving SSG is a 10 second ritual. Vegeta could have easily done the ritual immediately after Goku fought Beerus.
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>>154741401
OMG HE REMEMBERED THE "IT" HOW WILL TOEI SHILLS EVER RECOVER??
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>>154741897
If Black isn't in their timeline destroying shit, they won't give a fuck about it.
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>>154741650
I love those tears
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>>154741876
Why should he care now?

No peace needed since he lost everyone important to him.

He can just go to goku's timeline with mai.
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>>154741613
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>>154741883
Yes indeed
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>>154741987
Look:

>A god from another timeline is warned by kaioshin
>When zamasu and black arrive in his timeline, he fuck their ass
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>>154741613
Fuck off, Whis
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>>154742010
Black and Zamasu can just follow them and fuck shit up, moron. They have time rings. Are you actually reading those chapters or you just like acting like a retard?
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here's the manga raws, since people here are fags: http://imgur.com/a/rat6i
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>>154741935
"So you see trunks, your dad is actually retarded, he focused on training so he could freely transform in a weaker form isntead of focusing on increasing his stamina in the much stronger form instead".
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>>154742010
He keeps fighting because Zamasu will kill other Earths, Zamasu isn't just a universal menace, he's a timeline exterminator
The fact that he hasn't given up makes him a greater hero than him giving up because Earth was doomed
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>>154741860
Funny how Toyofags attack Toeishit when Toyotaro grew Toei animated adaption and putting elements from GT on its AF manga
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>>154741866
Ok not hating I actually like both but this was bad chapter for me.
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>>154741967
???
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Will Goku die?
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>>154742076
>Implying whis can't do it
>Implying it's impossible to do it in any way
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>>154742087
Thanks man.
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>>154741984
Why do you have to make it all about this dumb Toeishill vs Toyocucks?

It's cool. Why can't we like both anime and manga instead of being autistic about it?
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>>154742088
Its not like he actualy learnt from his shitty experience with Cell
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>>154742123
why Vegeta does what he does.
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>>154742132
It'll be extremely painful
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>>154742101
>"my peace"
>"my peace" in other timelines

Admit it, trunks motivation in the manga is shit.
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