What is the reason why so many modern anime are pretty much deny

Because girls are pure blank slates.

Denying it and ignoring it are not the same. That's like saying any show not set in Africa is denying its existence.
Why do you give a shit about male representation in anime? Especially in anime about cute girls?

>>154721597
Because it's boring.

Moe is pretty much reducing female characters to fetishization vehicles.
A trend which K-On! was part of it, even it wasn't the cause.

Comparing the original Idolmaster to Love Live is pretty good at showing the difference between otaku culture even of the early 00's to today.

>>154721797
But the success of Konosuba and the flawed funny endearing hot gross and stupid yet clever and highly yankable women in it might actually get us some women that are interesting and fappable.

>>154721320
why do almost no women exist in yaoi shows?

because people who watch anime are failures who can't handle competition, even from 2d characters

>>154721634
It's male characters that are boring

>>154721634
What's boring? The shows? Well don't watch them then. Why would "male representation" make them any more interesting?

>>154721972
It won't. These fags just need someone to self-insert as. Must blow to not be a little girl, eh?

The problem is not that focus is on a group of girls but how you can't even show that men are somehow part of the world.

>>154721320
>>154721597
>>154721906
>>154721972
>>154722111
see >>154721869
>because people who watch anime are failures who can't handle competition, even from 2d characters
Yuri is for men who hate men. Yaoi is for women who hate women.

Yurifags can't handle heterosexual love between 2D characters, because they get jealous of the man. They're so far gone that they can't even handle male characters existing, because they MIGHT steal one of the girls away. Yurifags are basically the lowest of the low and should be eradicated en masse.

>>154721869
Flawed women in anime are fetish fuel AND ego booster. Otaku see them and think, I'm better than her, I could fuck her

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>>154721320
It's because you are watching moeshit, you idiot

You can easily say the opposite when it comes to shounen shit like Jojo, YuyuHakushu, Fist of the North Star, and even fucking Justice League which put women as nothing more than a token for the minority that can be easily be removed without changing a single thing

>>154722234
70% of Yuri Hime readership are women, you faghag

>>154721869
>>154722250
Fucking stop, you dumb faggots. They're not real flaws. They're cute flaws. No female characters in moe anime are realistic at all, whether or not they have "flaws". Now, I'm not even arguing that they should be flawed, but don't try to defend them by saying shit like

>THIS GIRL IS A YANKEE AND THIS ONE DRINKS TOO MUCH AND THIS ONE DOESN'T GET HER WORK IN ON TIME THEREFORE THEY AREN'T MOEBLOBS

All of that is moe. Yankee moe. Lazy moe. Retard moe. All of it. You can defend your shitty anime's writing when they start having slut moe and STD moe.

>>154722260
Are you retarded? Shounen is for 12-year-old boys. Of course they tend to have more male characters than female characters. The question he's asking is why anime that's targeted towards adult men would all exist in a post-male genocide world. And the answer is that otaku are jealous of 2D boys.

>>154722234
>Yuri
cgdct isn't yuri you retard. Fuck off back to >>>/u/ and shitpost over there.

>>154722285
This.
It's also why yuri that doesn't pretend to be all totally straight girls who want the dick and are only doing it for the men shit tanks hard as fuck.

Even the stuff with incidental yuri doesn't do very well. Not any more.

I guess the lesbians have finally convinced the men and otaku that they aren't just being slutty for men and they are in fact just loving the clam.

>>154722366
Slam Dunk, Flame of Recca, Full Metal Alchemist, Jojo, Haikyuu, Hajime no Ippo, and Hunter × Hunter ARE for adult men

don't reply to posts that reply to twenty other posts unless you're the one who makes them

>>154722465
Make me

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>canon boyfriend
>was in waifu rankings until the late 00's

It wasn't always that bad.

>>154722315
>slut moe and STD moe
I think you should just stick with western media, seems anime isn't your thing

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>>154722315
>slut moe and STD moe
Galko-chan exists

>>154722518
I'm not arguing that anime girls should be sluts. I'm arguing that having cute flaws doesn't mean the girl isn't a moeblob.

>>154722517
She was still well-liked despite that actually, since she was just such a good girl.

>>154722434
>Haikyuu
Sure, that's for adult gays and fujoshi.

>>154722693
You're Under Arrest was extremly popular in the otaku demograhics and both lead characters had boyfriends.

>>154722285
>70% of the readership of a shoujo magazine are women

Oh, and 98% of the viewership of the Yuru Yuri anime are men.

Well, at this point not even dating sims are that relevant in modern otaku culture anymore.

>>154722751
Yes, that's what I said. They were such good girls that nobody cared that they weren't celibate talking dolls.

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>>154721320

Men are icky.

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>>154722234
>>154722802

The fact that they can't casually show some male characters is pretty strange.

>>154722802
Yuru Yuri was published by Yuri Hime. So is Citrus

>>154721320
>why do these shows about girls only have girls in them?
Gee retard, I don't know.
I can find at least 5 shows this season with men in them. What a shitty complaint. You look like an SJW.

>>154722828
see >>154722802

>>154721797
>Moe is pretty much reducing female characters to fetishization vehicles.

As if this trend didn't already have parallels in the west and other media culture which sticks a woman at the front. Pop-idols, girl bands, movie heroines, porn fantasy settings, even show girls at car shows and game events.

Moe is not the first nor the last cause of this that is prevalent in our culture (west or east).

>>154722802
Girls like cute things too you know.

I find it boring when an anime has either no relevant girls or no relevant guys. Having characters of the opposite gender makes character dynamics many time more interesting

>>154722366
Why is the lack of women in shounen any different from the lack of men in CGDCT? Why would you think addressing such "issues" is anything other than utterly irrelevant?

>>154722886
Yes?

>>154722897
14 is not adulthood.

>>154722850
Holy fucking shit, that's why I brought it up. What part of this are you not getting? How is bringing up a SHOUJO MAGAZINE as having more female readership than male readership proof of anything? Do you realize that having only 70% female readership is shockingly low? A shoujo magazine that focuses on male/female romance probably has a gender gap higher than 70/30. It just goes to show you how big yurishit is with men.

And despite the fact that Yuru Yuri is technically shoujo, its anime's audience is nearly all men.

>>154722909
So?

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>>154722366
No, the answer is that otaku aren't disgusting normalfags who need a male character to self-insert into, and can enjoy cute things for their cuteness.

>>154722234
>Yurifags are basically the lowest of the low and should be eradicated en masse.
I dislike, but silently tolerate Yurifags since they're not even half as bad as femdomfags.

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>>154722913
What in the fuck are you smoking, man?

>>154722882
Because little boys tend to care about hot blooded fightan, so it makes sense that the characters are mostly male.

Adult men, however, have no such excuse. Adults should have a variety of tastes, and it's weird that one gender would be excluded entirely. The only logical explanation is that male characters make otaku jealous and scared, because they have to keep up the delusion that their waifu belongs to them alone.

>>154722928
>can enjoy cute things for their cuteness
Are you a brony?

>>154722913
Please be bait

The removal of men from backgrounds and indeed from certain anime in general is a natural reaction to the influence of the harem genre since the turn of the century. You think an 80s harem like Ranma with multiple males would work nowadays? No fucking way.

Modern otaku can't take there being any competition for the girls in these shows, or any virile males whatsoever other than the MC. Thats why all the males in harem shows are reduced to Sunohara tier losers, uninterested shotas or self obsessed narcissists, all unable to compete for the girls, basically castrated for all intents and purposes.

Love Hina did the "one guy multiple girls" in a relatively secluded location, the apartments, thing so well almost all the romantic shit that followed used a similar formula. No other males, no competition, no way to be cucked or miss out. But there's still one problem, the MC is a male and not a complete self insert.

Thus moe shows were born, with no males whatsoever, harems without an object of affection. Hidamari sketch could've easily been a harem if there was a guy in the apartments, same with K-on if there was a dude in the music club. The whole slice of life genre was born from the insecurities of fat jap otakus.

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>>154722928
>male characters are for self-inserting
Go away, /u/. You're not anime fans. You'll never be anime fans. You don't understand anime, and you just want to masturbate to lesbian garbage. Go shit up somebody else's hobby. Go to /tv/ and talk about Orange is the New Black or whatever shit they watch over there.

/a/ is for anime fans, not yuri fans.

>>154722961
>>154722935
What the fuck are you idiots even talking about?

>>154722417
I love non-yurifag moe fans. You guys are so pure. You legitimately just want to see cute girls doing cute things, and the thought of them kissing each other never even entered into your minds.

I find it fascinating whenever stumble into moe anime threads and see moe fans and yurifags arguing with each other. It's rare, but it comes up every once in awhile. It's like there are two kinds of people who watch these shows, and neither side knows the other exists.

>>154723006
Did I say all anime targeted at adult men should be moe-moe cgdct slice of life? You can have some moeshit here, some gar there. Variety is good.

And I never implied yuri at all. The absence of male characters doesn't make everybody a flaming faggot. Just because you can only think with your penis doesn't mean the rest of us have to.

when you reply to yourself a lot of times

>>154721320
>male representation
What the fuck is this, reverse-tumblr? Get out.

>>154722881
Better yet, give me more interactions like konosuba where the group doesn't put anyone on a pedestal and they all treat each other the same.

>>154723027
>>154722913
Dumbfuck can't tell the difference between genre and demographic.

>>154722952
>Adults should have a variety of tastes
Expecting one genre to fulfil that is stupid. Adults can watch more than one thing.

The more sensible conclusion is that boys tend to be pretty worthless in a show that's about cute girls being cute. Why do you want them in if they don't help the show's actual goals?

>>154723151
There's no use trying to talk sense to such people. They only see battle shounen and moeblobs. There is nothing in between and nothing else in their world, and even if it was paraded in front of them they'd still assert it's one of the above.

>>154723128
The industry can't survive on otaku, fujo, and thirsty queers alone.

The absolute failure of anime in the west in the last couple of years should tell you that. Well, it had more to do with the death of the unoffical subbers, and the WEEEABOO AM BAD thing and america stealing megaupload...but still.

Modern animu isn't helping.

>>154723146
You're the one who argued that a shoujo magazine having 30% male readership means that yuri is for girls, so I'd say it's you who doesn't understand demographics vs genre.

>>154721320
You sounds like those who demand for more blacks, faggot and tranny to have role in film because they think those are being under-represented in hollywood.

>>154723193
>The industry can't survive on otaku, fujo, and thirsty queers alone.
It has and it will. The majority of anime has always been pandering garbage, and there are still good shows coming out. You just don't remember the former and don't want to see the latter. That said, manga is where most of the good shit generally is anyways.

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>>154723184
>>154723151
>The more sensible conclusion is that boys tend to be pretty worthless in a show that's about cute girls being cute.
Kill yourself.

>>154723238
>>>/int/
Anglophones are currently having a discussion, please come back later for animay boobies.

When you say that no male characters = yurishit, you out yourself as a self insert fag

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>>154723225
Yuri magazine is not shoujo magazine.
Shoujo magazines features female oriented het stories

>>154723225
Said someone who makes a blanket statement like this >>154722234

>>154723249
>The majority of anime has always been pandering garbage
Nope, not even close. Otaku didn't start dominating the industry until the 2000s. 70s, 80s, and 90s anime were mostly for children, and adult anime could be watched by pretty much any kind of adult.

It's the 2000s where anime targeted towards anime fans took over.

>>154723249
No, the industry survives mostly on kids' shows and occasional hits.

>>154721320
>for the poor state of male representation in anime
Male IS THE FUCKING MC

>>154723260
Is he the seme or the uke, do you think?

>>154723291
hahahahahaha
no

>>154723260
"Tend to be" doesn't mean "always are." There have been good male characters in cgdct. They're just not always needed.

>>154723269
>I have no argument and I have to save face.

>>154723326
Who are you quoting?

>>154723279
Holy fucking shit, fuck off you newfaggot, underage piece of shit. Yuri Hime is a shoujo magazine, you dumbshit.

Holy fuck, I can't believe you wasted so much time just because you're an ignorant piece of shit.

>>154723271
They do tend to usually have yuri bait in them though.

>>154723338
>>>/jp/
Anglophones are currently having a discussion, please come back later for animay boobies.

>>154723291
It's still mostly for children, at least in terms of revenue. Precure, One Piece, Gundam, etc are where the money is.

Expected of idolshits which doesn't even realize what piece of garbage they're watching.

>>154723346
So post a yuri magazine made for men?

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>81 posts
>24 posters

Chemicals in the water

>>154723381
They actually turn the frogs gay

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC122794/

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I find it hilarious that yurifaggots think they're different from haremfaggots. They think that anyone who wants male characters is a haremfaggot who wants to self-insert.

It's not "yuri vs harem".

It's "yuri and harem vs everything else".

Yuri and harem are two-sides of the same coin. They're both shit for otaku who want to fantasize about waifus. The only difference is that haremfaggots need someone to self-insert as whereas yurifaggots don't. Everyone else, meanwhile, enjoys anime with good stories and characters of both genders. Arguing between harem and yuri is like arguing between dogshit and catshit; neither is meant for human consumption.

>>154723249
You're right it has.

But the pandering has been more subtle and had a far wider range of genres and styles.

Now it's literally all otaku/fujo/thirsty sexually deprived homosexuals stuff.

Name 10 adult oriented anime and movies that have come out in the last 15 years that aren't the above.

Just fucking 10. You have 15 years to draw from
No this is not a subtle request for watchable anime.
....

>>154723358
You may participate in this debate if you can provide a translator capable of understanding your peculiar language, but should that prove impossible, you had best be off.

>>154723422
k

>>154723291
>Nope, not even close. Otaku didn't start dominating the industry until the 2000s
Eva literally started late night television anime for adults.

>>154723422
Signal harder, please. Gobbling pretentious shit does not make you superior to those who recognize and accept what they like.

>>154723422
Ironic shitpost.
>>154723423
Sincere shitpost.

>>154723375
There are plenty of yuri seinen manga, and they just get serialized in normal seinen magazines.

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>>154723346
Yuri Hime was originally sponsored by Monthly Comic Zero Sum, which is a josei manga but gained independence by 2008

Why am I even replying to this bait

>>154723433
>Have no argument
>Better accuse them as ESL
Yeah, that will show them!

>>154723417

Buy a water filter

>>154723480
So if yuri is made for men, why are there no yuri magazines for men?

>>154723507
Kirara

>>154723528
Manga Kirara is a variety that features both het, cgdct and harem, anon

>>154723528
That's not yuri.
Kirara has lots of series with het romance.

>>154723422
The problem is neither yuri nor harems. Don't watch them if you don't like them.
The problem is obnoxious people that think everything has to cater to them. This includes yurifags that complain about het, and hetfags that complain about yuri.

>>154723546
>>154723550

Saying "find me a pure yuri mag" is retarded though. Ironic but true.

>>154723507
>If battle manga are made for boys, why are there no battle magazines for boys?

>>154723568
So, you can't find one?

>>154723238
Blacks would basically turn their back on all hollywood media. Including the paid for black performers that are the bitch of major producers if there were no black representation.
It will be another black hollywood situation with blacks making their own media and forgoing the mainstream stuff completely. Including music and video games.
I'm sure you can see why black representation and black movies are created every so often.
And with the top and most viewed television show in american history for years now being an entirely black starred and ran television show...blacks taking their ball and going home with it is something that many studios/record execs/media creators in general do not want.

Gay and trannys? They are hollywood. They run and own it. They basically run academia too. That's a fact.
Name five actors and producers and I can tell you what part of the sexual spectrum they are on and who their partners are.

new IRC game: try and hit 300 replies before hitting 30 IPs

>>154723568
Why? There is one. But it's not for guys.

>>154723577
There are battle magazine for boys, anon.
The first superhero comic book is for boys in fact

>>154723486
Do you not understand that two magazines having a relationship and sharing an owner doesn't mean they target the same demographic?

>Why am I even replying to this bait
That's my line.

>>154723577
....
what?

>>154723592
GG

>>154723592
quite literally the next post
oh well, these things take time

>>154723605
>There are battle magazine for boys, anon.
De facto, not de jur, anon.

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>>154723606
Yes, and Yuri Hime was never a shoujo

>>154723634
>>154723269

>>154723634
You can easily google it, anon.

>>154723619
There are plenty of shounen magazines that mostly feature battle manga, but that's just because it's the most popular genre.

>>154723596
It's for cute girls(male)

Retard

>>154723632
maybe try for four hundred replies before forty IPs? or lower the difficulty a bit and cover the next 180 posts before ten more people find this thread.

>>154723687
Source?

>>154723704
Guess, sperglord.

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This is the same guy who posts about how he likes diapers, furry, and scat
Devoted his life into hating loli, yuri, and crack pairings.
Stalks every posts in the archive and shitposts about some mod that does not care about him
And so many more, isn't it?

It's been 4 years now. He still hasn't left

>>154723715
Your ass?

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>>154723671
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Sh%C5%8Dnen_manga_magazines
Feel free to point out which one of these ONLY features battle manga.

Who cares about men?

>>154723730
I guess reading between the lines is hard for people as far on the spectrume as you.

>>154723733
Weekly Shounen Jump

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THIS IS A MALE FREE ZONE

>>154723735
Who cares about your opinion?

Remember how successful Shirobako was?

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>>154723735
Cute mahou shoujo do.

>>154723673
Oh, so yuri isn't popular enough with the male audience or any audience on it's own to have a male or female only yuri magazine?

Is that what you're saying?

>>154723767
Guess I was right

>>154723809
Lmao sure dude

>>154723820
Yep

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>>154723798
Love Live is the best example if you want to start that game

>>154721320
>so many modern anime
I don't think there are so many. And if there are they're usually shows focusing on a group of friends or 4-koma adaptations.

>>154723804
The one he posted with the chart is the only specific one I think?

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I suspect many of the posters in this thread have actual medical autism. Please seek help.

>>154723804
1. There have been seinen yuri magazines before.
2. There are plenty of seinen yuri published in seinen magazines.
3. Yuri anime is overwhelmingly consumed by male fans. The split is far more dramatic than 70/30.

>>154723894
source?

>>154721320
>>154721634
Because you watch the same kind of shit all the time.

Youjo Senki has 2 girls.
Kono-suba has a main character who is just as interesting as the girls
The two males in Monogatari are two of the best characters according to many people

The reason why girls are more of a focus in anime in general is because of the culture of herbivore men and the cause of decline birthrates. That's what men want to supplement their lack of female relations. Figures, dakimakura, box sets, merchandise are bought for the girls that one likes. The money is in the women.

Anime girls are the new giant robots. They are the toy sales.

>>154723910
If you need a source to tell you that close to 100% of the BD sales for Valkyrie Drive are men, you should probably kill yourself.

>>154723982
this is bait right?

>>154723919
>Anime girls are the new giant robots.
The difference is that mecha anime have human characters, whereas an increasing number of moe anime feature only female characters. Mecha fans aren't so autistic that they ONLY want robots, whereas yurifags are jealous of men, so they don't want them around their girls.

>>154723919
This also explains how fujo pandering stuff = pure cash and why so many women are going jailhouse gay/yuri due to lack of romantic partners and closeness.
Thirsty male and female losers who can't interact with each other even if it meant easy much needed sex an end to their loneliness and having some rodents.

>>154723894
Source?
I'm genuinely curious and this would be a big help.

>>154724016
No, its because the situation and the setting doesn't require males whereas the same is not true for mecha and pilots.

>34 posters

Anime was a mistake

>>154722569
The picture makes it look like she's being penetrated from below.

>>154721320
Friendly reminder that people are on average more empathic and sympathetic towards women than they are towards men in an absence of context.
Having more female characters makes it easier to garner the attention and sympathy of the audience. You don't need to make your characters sympathetics, they can remain complete blank slates yet still keep the audience somewhat interested because biology.

>>154724209
Unrestricted internet access for autistic people is clearly the biggest mistake.

>>154724300
She probably is.

>>154724104
Nope. There's nothing inherent about robots that requires human characters. If all you care about is robots, you shouldn't want humans, right?

The truth is that mecha fans don't mind human characters because they have no reason to. Meanwhile, yurifags are jealous of men. They can't handle men. They're scared and angry that men exist and feel NTR'd by every male, 2D and 3D.

>>154723193
What the fuck does the West have to do with the industry? Especially fucking pirates. What are you even saying?

The reason why Idolmaster > Love Live

>>154724333
projections: the post

>>154723423
Kill yourself, retard.

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>>154724300

>>154724346
The iM@S anime adaptation was shit though.

Netflix will save us!

>>154724301
That can be solved by adding more traps to shows.

>>154724334
...
Ah, you're only concerned with how anime is viewed and how well it sells in japan.
Nevermind then.
BUT the fact that a good chunk of modern anime is doing poorly with the western audience should tell you something.

>>154724410
that the west has shit taste? nothing new here

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>>154724356
>I-I totally don't have any problem with men! I just prefer female characters, o-kay?
>BAWWWW WHY IS THE PROTAGONIST MALE
>BAWWWW WHY IS THE SIDE CHARACTER MALE
>BAWWWW WHY IS THE BACKGROUND CHARACTER MALE

>>154724361
Not really

>>154724404
At this points traps are female characters gay people can wank to.
The only one I can think of that was actually written keeping the fact that it was actually a man in mind and that was used to advance the story and build the character was Whatshisname from Genshiken Nidaime. And it was kind of a trainwreck.

>>154724404
Every dude being indistinguishable from a girl, having a very feminine sounding seiyuu doing their voice, and being feminine in general is already a major problem.

>>154724431
look at this totally not autistic shitposter

>>154724410
>Ah, you're only concerned with how anime is viewed and how well it sells in japan.
What? No, you yourself said "the industry can't survive," and then went to talk about fucking Westerners not being able to pirate their anime on megaupload, which has literally less than nothing to do with whether the industry survives.

>>154724410
Honestly this has mroe to do with anime doing exceptionnaly well in the West in the midto late 2000s due to a couple massively succesful series and that point pretty much being the protif peak of big shounen series. The situation has simply gone back to normal because tntpole titles like Death Note, FMA and some others have reached the end of their shelf life.

>>154724431
Did you respond to the wrong person?

>>154724441
Well yeah, dudes that look like dudes aren't attractive.

>>154724301
And this is an issue how? If they're sympathetic, they're sympathetic. Or are you going to claim that only people with shit taste are affected by this?

>>154724577
It's not an issue, it's just a bit of the larger explanation.
Having more female characters is safer since it guarantees a basic level of "caring" from the audience as long as the characters remain somewhat unflawed.
And seeing how bottomlines and return on investment are the keywords in most TV and movie everywhere these days, you really can't blame producers for not wanting to take too much unnecessary risk seeing how the budgets keep growing.

>>154721320
>blame KyoAni
plenty of males both fore and background in the other animes they made, like Full Metal Panic, Haruhi Suzumiya, Lucky Star, Nichijou, Hyōka, Chunibyo, Tamako Market, Free!, Hibike! Euphonium, Dragon Maid, etc...
So can't say they haven't tried to make other themed shows.. the only one without any really is... K-On!

>and K-On!
But sure, lets blame the one series thats almost 10 years old, that takes place in an all girls school, and only had one male character(Ritsu's brother) that appeared more than once.

And lets just ignore all the other all-girls school animes with no males, thats been made years before.


Why don't you blame the other companies that made the modern animes you are angry at for also not having male characters?

This is a nice thread.

Isn't the problem just with the script writers? The guy characters tend to be shit, and the female characters are just dull and boring and forgettable.
If the script writers are that bad (and unfortunately, they are bad because they write shit for teenagers in the first place), then it's not really going to matter much if guys exist or not in those anime shows.

>>154724654
defensive kyoani fanboy

>>154724465
You're talking about keeping afloat by selling to a steadily shrinking super niche audience.

I'm talking about the subject matter and current paradigm not doing well with audiences across the world. The thing about megaupload the the like was about WHY anime consumption and thus anime adoption and growth was stunted and even halted.
But I guess it added nothing and was me merely venting. So ignore it.

>>154724478
In the mid to late 90's anime was actually this big new crazy thing that everyone simply had to get in on it actually reached it's peak during the 00's and that was when a lot of things all happened to just...make things stop and slow down.
The audience is still there, don't get me wrong. The problem is that the media is no longer selling to that audience.
Sorry, if I made this about the west again.
I'll stop.

>>154724654
>Why don't you blame the other companies that made the modern animes you are angry at for also not having male characters?
Because he is shitposting.

>>154724691
Anime is a Japanese medium for Japanese people, the less the west is taking into consideration the better.

>>154724690
great argument, you sure showed him!

>>154724691
>The audience is still there
I know, you can't go anywhere without finding people bitching about current anime like they even matter at all. It's pretty obnoxious.

>>154724654
>Why don't you blame the other companies that made the modern animes you are angry at for also not having male characters?

exactly how is it kyoanys fault that other animes makers follow the same animes recipes
they did not tell them to copy

>>154724739
It's too late for that anyway. The producers want the gaijin money (chinks, followed by americans, large powergap followed by the rest of the entire world together) that almost makes up a third of all the income. That's too much money to pass on.

One of the problems however is that the chinks are now considering to not work with the nip producers anymore and to just directly hire low-tier nip studios that will teach chinks how to draw their own anime shows so that they won't have to buy nip cartoons.

>>154724691
>The audience is still there, don't get me wrong. The problem is that the media is no longer selling to that audience.
I don't think it's a matter of "selling to that audience", it's mainly that there aren't as many federating titles, which is what made the strength of the mid-2000s.
The market is actually larger, it simply buys less.
There were a couple reports on the sales numbers posted here a few days ago and I haven't them saved but IIRC, overall the total profit has been declining from 2006 on until 2015, and only in 2016 nad it gotten larger than the previous peak. And interestingly, the foreign market had generated an almost equal profit than the domestic on in 2006 and 2016 only. It had only caught up in 2016 thanks to the growth of the chinese market ; the market is larger but it buys less, there are more customers but no mass-selling product.

>>154724852
far easier for joe normalfag to illegally stream something than buy it nowadays

>>154724903
Proves that we're living in a golden age thanks to the internet.

>>154724903
Actually, it's far easier to stream legally now than it was 10 years ago. Hell there weren't even legal ways to stream anime at that point, and very little legal offer in the first place so most of the consumption could not be made legally in the first place.
We're talking about the time of Megaupload, dailymotion and wat being filled to the brim with entire series and hardly bothering to take them down, etc.
Availability is greater now, both legaly and illegaly.
Hence a larger audience that is less involved. You have more "normies" watching a couple episodes of One Punch Man, but fewer of them in comparison too the steps many took ten years ago and bought a headband after watching Naruto.

>>154724752
You owned yourself with that post hard enough.

>>154721320
>>154722260
>male, female, male, female, male, female, male, female, male, female, male, female, male, female, male, female, male, female, male, female, male, female, male, female, male, female, male, female, male, female, male, female, male, female, male, female, male, female, male, female, male, female,

Faggots, did you even think of their gender identity? Honestly,..

>>154721320
This thread is fake news, you can find plenty male representation all across anime. look at every single main character for shows and u will see majority male rep

>>154725179
>moe

>>154724903
Yeah, anime is easier to consume now more then ever. The problem is that not much of it is worth consuming and there is WAY too much out there to see.

Google and youtube are basically strangling all life out of the markets and we have no way of knowing if anything new is good or if there are any older things worth watching.

It's just a glut of the same overly marketed shit that's been pushed to the top of the heap by the big G and the now totally trash youtube.

And crunchy roll all but decimated anime in the west leaving everyone scrounging around for anything decent to watch and not being able to see the kind of stuff and the anime that we did want to see. Just the stuff that they were paid to show.

Let's be honest, most people would sit through commercial breaks and click on ads to see 480p or greater subbed streaming media.
We've been trained to see it.

Now imagine instead of desperately hoping that people will pick up blu-rays of something for 80bucks a pop. We can get a few million people to watch and get paid 25cents per view of each commercial and a dime per click.

That's millions in revenue.

>>154725036
was trying to say 3 clicks can get your typical pleb anime fan their fix nowadays so they aren't going to go out and buy it and have it shipped, whereas back then buying could have been a more reasonable option for them

>>154725199
I don't see the barkeep character from The Simpsons that often.

>>154721320
Fuck off sjw

Men are not cute and should stay away from the camera. That is what people will pay for.

>>154725179
>fake news
???

Educate me on that phrase, please. Why is "fake news" an adjective for things all of a sudden?

>kirara manga features a scene with a male in it
>he's gone in the anime
thank the kirara gods

>>154725249
It's pretty much a meme at this point.
A dead one at that.

>>154725249
It's the newest meme word (and yes, it fulfills the criteria for being a meme) to say "shitty and false information" thanks to the current American president, where he and the media are having a shitflinging contest about who's lying harder and being shittier than the other.
So it's getting popular enough to currently be used in colloquial speech.

>>154725294
When the president uses a meme, you know it's dead.

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>>154724690
He's not wrong. Kyoani has no problem with men.

>>154725245
Fuck off and die, /u/. You are not welcome here and will never be.

>XD YOU MUST BE AN SJW XDDD
Kill yourself and die. You'll never fit in on /a/, no matter how hard you try.

>>154725341
>>>/y/

>>154725330
This
>kyoani is the only company brave enough to produce a hetero romance movie in this day and age

>>154725200
What are you on about? There has always been plenty of shitty anime. The difference is that almost everything gets prompt subs. CR and the like are relentlessly mediocre in video and sub quality, but other than kids' shows almost everything is available, if not in every region.

What do you think is being hidden from you? Fune wo Amu? 12-Sai?

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Loli harem is the only genre that needs a male in it.

Watch as screen caps of this thread are used by femnazis on Tumblr with the caption of Animes fandom full of man rights activists.
I smell a false flag

If watching cgdct makes you a yurifag, does watching sport anime ike Yowapeda or Haikyuu make you a fudanshi? What if you watch both?

>>154725386
>"the fact that there are only women in anime is proof that it is used to objectify women"
>"the fact that people complain about having too many women in anime is proof that the audience is dominated by mysogynistic MRA"
You can never win against someone who starts an argument with its conclusion.

>>154725396
I'm sorry, are you predicating your argument on the idea that Haikyuu isn't fujoshit?

>>154725450
No I'm asking a question and would like an answer.

>>154725231
>whereas back then buying could have been a more reasonable option for them
Buying what?
Untranslated DVDs from Japan you can't read because of geographical zoning?

>>154725475
Yes, watching gayshit necessarily means you're gay.

>What if you watch both?
Literally has been happening for decades. 3D lesbians commonly shlick to gay porn instead of lesbian porn. That's even been referenced in anime before (Bakemonogatari).

>>154725604
what if I watch it for the plot?

>>154725604
this is pretty bad tasting bait, try harder next time.

>>154725623
Your shitposting is bannable at this point. You're the same guy who has done nothing but reply

>bait

to every comment in this thread you don't understand. You're breaking so many rules, I don't even know where to begin.

>lurk more
>no users under 18
>garbage outside of /b/
>quality of posting

Delete your comments, go back to MAL, then slit your wrists.

>>154725654
I'm serious anon, try harder.

>>154722234
I don't want romance in my cute shows period.
It's not interesting to me and there's plenty of teenage drama for both straight and homos so leave my cute girls alone.

I think there needs to be an anime genre filled with asexual aliens so that no one would need to argue which way do the aliens swing.

>>154725739
First of all, romance does not equal drama. Secondly, I don't hear you complaining when there's romance between the girls.

>>154721320
Nice falseflagging fujoshit. There will always be more anime about harem and moe than for fujoscum like you.

>>154725862
>/u/ trying to fit in on /a/
We don't accept you and never will. You are not on our team. You are and always have been the enemy.

Yurishits need to fuck off back to /u/. Fujoshits need to fuck off back to /y/. You both are on the enemy of /a/.

/a/ is, always has been, and always will be for heterosexual anime. Gayshit belongs on gayshit boards, which is why we have them in the first place. So fuck off.

>>154721320
>so many
Stop watching anime aimed for purityfags.

>>154725893
ahahahahahahah

>>154725848
What romance between girls? It's almost entirely gags, fanservice, or deliberately ambiguous friendship.

>>154725893
Anon, stop trying so hard. It's embarrassing.

>>154725911
So you have no problem with gags, fanservice, or deliberately ambiguous friendship between female characters, but not between girls and boys? Do you perhaps get a pit in your stomach when you see it hinted that a female character likes a boy? Do you start sweating, maybe? Shaking? Do you get cold?

>>154725893
Don't post again fujo. You have been exposed.

>>154725939
Fuck off back to /u/ and stay there, with all your /y/ friends, faggot. You will NEVER be welcome on /a/.

/a/ hates /u/ and will never stop hating /u/ until its presence is eradicated from our board.

>>154725938
Nah I like harem

>>154725954
please stop, this is getting really sad

>>154725954
HaHAHaHAHaHA

>>154725954
>until its presence is eradicated from our board.
>anyone other than a mod
>erasing anything
wew lad.

>>154725938
I don't have any problem with those things between girls and boys. I just don't much care for romance stories.

>>154725982
Mods have banned yuri before. Remember that yuri ecchi series that mods banned on /a/ and sent back to /u/? The one where the girls had to make each other orgasm to transform?

>>154725999
That's because of nipples, not yuri.

>>154725938
So you have no problem with gags, fanservice, or deliberately ambiguous friendship between male and female characters, but not between girls or between boys? Do you perhaps get a pit in your stomach when you see it hinted that a female character likes another girl? Do you start sweating, maybe? Shaking? Do you get cold?

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>>154726014
I have no problem with yuri couples in non-yuri anime, dude.

Girls kissing girls is fine. The complete destruction of male characters because some yurifag otaku is jealous of men is not fine.

>>154726013
And yet they never banned Seikon no Qwaser. Really makes you think.

>>154726036
Your entire argument is based on your own baseless assumption. It's pretty sad.

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>>154726067
>your own baseless assumptions
>your own
This is common knowledge in Japan. The Japanese openly acknowledge that men are being eliminated from anime because otaku are jealous of them.

>world is devoid of males
Sounds like a horror setting rather than something cute. Why do people like it?

>>154726057
And Seikon no Quaser has one of the most outrageous lesbian couple.
How about you shut the fuck up?

>>154726091
Not every anime has to revolve about romance. Not every anime needs male characters.

Cry more.

>>154726098
2D girls>3D girls

>>154726098
If a magical genie fell into the hands of a NEET hikikomori otaku, wishing away all men in the world other than himself would be at least his second wish. His first wish would be to make his waifu real.

>>154726122
Anime isn't here to cater to your irrational jealousy of other men, and it never will be. Men will always exist in anime.

Cry more.

>>154726122
>Not every anime has to revolve about romance
Every fanbase wants romance though. Just about every fan art and OC of an anime has romance in them whether it's yuri, yaoi, or straight.

>>154726149
So why did you make this thread?

>>154726133
But that would be a harem. It's not the same thing.

>>154726156
So? Evey fanbase has some guy who makes scat porn of that series, doesn't mean every series should be about scat.

>>154726163
Yurifags are just haremfags who can't self-insert.

>>154726172
>>154726122
Male characters don't equal romance, and you only complain about romance when it's heterosexual anyway. When girls start kissing girls, you love it.

Just admit that your problem isn't with romance; it's with men. You're scared and jealous of men.

>>154726149
Your post make no sense.

>>154726133
Nah, First wish is a secured home. Second is a magically refilled fridge. Third is waifu.

>>154726196
Why do you hate yuri?

>>154726036
Male characters aren't being destroyed. They just aren't being created in one specific subgenre. If you're that desperate for cock, watch other genres.

>>154726156
I sure as fuck don't.

>>154726196
I like hetero romance in harem like SAO or IS. Or hetero romance in fujobait show like Owari no Seraph. But not in cute girls show like LWA.

because men are pieces of shit

>>154726209
Forgive me if I'm not okay with getting rid of male characters just because some bitter virgin in Japan had his waifu stolen from him by her 2D boyfriend.

Why can't everyone just agree the reason for all of this is because of NTR?

>>154726240
But you are not the target audience anyway. Watch what you like.

>>154726240
I still don't understand why you're so bothered by a small number of shows pandering to people that aren't you. Just don't watch things you don't like. It is literally that simple.

>>154726233
Yet you don't have a problem with yuri in those shows.

>>154726279
Says who?

>>154726272
Not that guy but I would understand his anger since the anime he likes would become extinct because anime needs to pander to purityfags so much.

>>154725893
>>154725954

>we
You fucking dumbass. Are you trying to change people's opinions through an imagined majority? Do you also say "/a/ never liked x anyway"? Why are you expecting people to conform on an anonymous imageboard, where there's nothing at stake?

I don't give a shit about yaoi nor yuri, but what the fuck makes people like you rise up in arms? What is being threatened? Why are you being so scared of a subgenre?

>>154726221
>Male characters aren't being destroyed. They just aren't being created in one specific subgenre. If you're that desperate for cock, watch other genres.
Nah, fuck off. I'll continue to support the moe slice-of-life anime that have cute girls AND cute boys. They are still being made, and they're generally better than all-girls shit.

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>270 posts
>50 ips

>>154726279
Yuri is just foreplay for Kirito or Ichika in those series. It doesn't matter.

>>154726303
Slippery slope I guess.

>>154726302
There are enough harem in every season. Why is he crying again?

>>154726303
/u/ is documentably the third most-hated group of crossboarders on /a/, only below /v/ and /pol/. That's because /u/ actively shitposts in our threads, usually bitching about male protagonists and heterosexual romance subplots. We don't like fujoshits either, but that's because most of us are straight men.

>>154726331
Probably got mad he got baited to watched something he doesn't like?

>>154726304
>They are still being made
So what the fuck is the problem? You can watch things you like, and other people can watch things they like. So why does it bother you?

>>154726352
>we
>our
>us
Holy shit, how new are you?

>>154726278
>>154726272
It's not a taste; it's a trend. These people are trying to get rid of all anime with male characters in them.

I always find all-girls casts really boring, it's almost like feminism, they all feel like independent strong empowered women if there isn't a male around to dominate and put them in their place with the power of cock.

>>154726352
>bitching about male protagonists and heterosexual romance subplots
I've never seen that. If anything, it's people like you who are complaining about yuri. Again, who are you trying to scare with that imaginary majority? You might be able to push a newfag to your side and snowball it from there on, but come the fuck on.

>>154726396
There's nothing, NOTHING, you can do about it. So yeah, cry more.

>>154726405
>girls are cute little midgets
>empowered

>>154726396
Your baiting is getting desperate

>>154726420
>I've never seen that.
lurk forever newfaggot

>>154726396
If it's a trend, it's because it's a common taste. The only thing they can do is support shows they like. All you have to do is support shows you like. And both of you can shut the fuck up instead of sharing your paranoid delusions with the world.

>>154724363
Why bringing Netflix into this?

>>154726460
LWA meme.

>>154726447
>if you don't agree with me and my viewpoint, you're a newfag

>>154726422
You're /u/ is showing.

>>154726489
So now /u/ is having an impact on the Japanese anime industry? Interesting.

This could all be fixed with more /ss/.

>>154726453
It's as common a taste as penis flavored ice cream. Ever met someone who wanted penis flavored ice cream? Neither have I. But they exist, and they're willing to pay thousands more than you or I are for their ice cream.

I am Xenu.
Worship me, and I will create an anime that will fulfill all your needs.

>>154726512
>tfw no Game Over anime
Not fair
It's not fair

>>154726422
Your side already lost. Men will never be eliminated, and yurishit will never take over. The pendulum is already swinging back. You were a minor annoyance at best. The more pressing issue is getting you to fuck off back to your own board and stop shitposting on ours.

>>154726525
Okay? So let them have their dick sweets. Buy whatever flavour you like. It's not going anywhere.

>>154726550
You keep contradicting yourself.
Why did you even make this thread if 'the pendulum is swinging back'?

>>154726550
I'm pretty sure that there isn't any rule that says you can't discuss cgdct shows on /a/. Sorry anon, but I'll be staying here forever. Keep crying.

>>154726529
Not /ss/ enough. I want maidragon to be more like Cool's other works.

>>154726620
It's hilarious to see maid dragon fans so caugh off guard by the /ss/ in it. I mean, if you know anything about the guy, that's like half of what he does.

I don't want to watch other men. I'm not homosexual.

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>>154722434
All shonen. Also, women may get the shaft in terms of story focus and fight scenes but most shonen doesn't pretend as if women don't exist. Ippo had a love interest, Ed has a love interest, Bulma was a main character along with Goku, one of the Jojo protags is actually a woman, and the last episode of Naruto is a wedding. Moe shows avoid the existence of men because otaku need their waifus to be "pure." The girls in those shows don't even have love interests because if they did otaku would become jealous.

>>154726673
Particularly the tumblr crowd who are only there for Kanna daughterfu. A bunch of people got upset enough to drop the show after Shouta's introduction (along with /ll/ twister).

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>>154726571
>I've been samefagging this entire thread, so everyone I'm replying to must be the same person who is also OP.

>>154726706
You're the only one who keeps saying 'we', 'our board', and sperging about the /u/ boogeyman. Not hard to spot you.

>>154726676
Well, you're certainly not heterosexual, so that doesn't leave many options.

>>154726747
Nah, you've replied to a few different people already. I can spot your posts pretty easily, because you're the only one who keeps calling the guy you're responding to OP.

>>154726753
What makes you say that?

Men are so dumb

>>154726778
>>154726747
Just fuck already.

>>154726805
Sure! I'm not gay, so of course I'd rather fuck men than cute girls.

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>>154724300
>nendo of a girl yawning

>it looks like she's being penetrated from below

>>154726826
She's yawning because the dick is not big enough.

>>154726826
Everything she does is sexual. Her body is pure sex and was made solely for the purposes of procreation.

Otaku are triggered by the mere sight of other men because they're insecure and feel inferior, and don't want to see them anywhere near all their precious waifus.

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>>154726826
Well, here's a nendo where's she's just flustered, but it looks like the plastic stand goes up her butt instead.

>sexualizing nendos
There is special place in hell for people like you

>>154724800
Foreign sales (moreover in the West) don't even count in the overall income.

>>154728549
Nobody is talking about foreign disc sales.
It's the license money from the streaming service providers that are being counted in the 580 billion yen from overseas.

>>154722315
Hookers with golden hearts have been a trope for ages, anon.

>>154725833
They would just argue which one was the gayest or the straightest by overanalyzing their looks and speech patterns.

I genuinely and unironically believe that anyone who wants more male characters in anime, and feels anything other than deep annoyance when a male character is introduced, is a closeted homosexual.

And? Are you wishing for a date with them, dear 154729340?

>>154721320
This.
An all-girls cast is like watching a blank canvass.
Can we just have a fair amount of boys? We don't need them to take the fucking spotlight for Christ's sake. They can also be fun to watch.

>>154726913
That place is /a/

The problem is that bringing boys will invite unneeded romance.

>>154729340
>/u/ logic
Stay there.

>>154729923
Mate, seriously, stop replying to yourself.

>>154729976
I'm not your mate. Fuck off.

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>>154721320
How many waifu threads does /a/ have on a week?

Now how many hubando threads does /a/ have in a month?

Straight or yuri, it doesn't matter at all. Yaoi is the real shit, the fujos fanbase is large enough to overcome both.

>>154726689
>Implying the female audience and fujos give a single solitary FUCK about female characters in their shlick material/boy media.

Battle shounen is the chick equivlaent of cute school girls doing cute things you dolt.

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>>154722315
>THIS GIRL IS A YANKEE AND THIS ONE DRINKS TOO MUCH AND THIS ONE DOESN'T GET HER WORK IN ON TIME THEREFORE THEY AREN'T MOEBLOBS
I don't think you understand Konosuba.
This shrieking monkey is legitimately a terrible person.

>>154729536
agreed, it breaks my immersion when women behave competently without a man around

>>154730145
We have best boy threads all the time.