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The anime Renaissance has come and gone without so much as a shitpost to show for it. Joshiraku was a modern attempt at recreating the golden years of anime from the late 1980s to the early 1990s. The raw intelligence required of the viewer to efficiently parse the cultural and societal phenomenon is unparalleled in any other form of media. Lucky Star was a close second to Joshiraku but it lacked the zest to really exhibit any sort of staying power. Much like Aya Hirano's career which ended with Haruhi and was sadly reanimated for Parasyte, Joshiraku's lack of viewerbase is largely representative of the "modern anime viewer"; this is demonstrated by their inability to grasp basic social cues and other directing anomalies. The fansubbing community has done a dishonor to this show by leaving it to the clutches of [gg], which by some terrible stroke of luck, have managed to improve the series with localized meme subs. As a result, you have a bunch of armchaired weeaboos, both mentally and physically crippled, who don't know the first thing about Japan talking as if they are the authority on the subject. These are the people you share this board with, the very same people you have intellectual discussion with about the anime industry with every day are parading around as if they're Ken-sama. Mescaline ain't shit, I'm going to work. I'm getting paid to get high. I don't know what the fuck I'm doing but I'm glad I lied on my resume.
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>>154616673
toasting in epic bread
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reads like a pasta but the mention of parasyte means it's at least somewhat recent
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>>154617173
This is not a pasta, these are my genuine thoughts. Check the archives and see if you can find anything close to this.
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>>154616673
SZS > Joshiraku
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>>154616673
>anime Renaissance
Who's the Michelangelo of anime?
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>>154617283
Tezuka.

Anno is the van Gogh of anime but instead of being appreciated after his death, he's being appreciated after the death of his remaining brain cells, the last of which he used in a last hurrah with Shin Godzilla. Makoto Shinkai is moving his way up into the big leagues and Miyazaki might as well bite the dust any minute now, he's not going to be appreciated now or then once you get past your childlike Ghibli fascination.
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>>154616673
>I don't know what the fuck I'm doing but I'm glad I lied on my resume.
Genuinely laughed out loud.
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>>154616673
Didn't read, post Marii's ass!
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>>154617334
>Makoto Shinkai is moving his way up into the big leagues
Shinkai hasn't created anything that will be considered a masterpiece in 10 years time though. Not to mention he lacks range, and stays comfortably in his romance/drama driven bubble.
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Am I witnessing the birth of a new copypasta?
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>>154618024
He's moving up in the sense that Kimi no na wa. will give him the opportunities to flesh out his portfolio. It taking the box office by storm and completely stomping everything else has given Shinkai status which, if used effectively, will allow him to move towards newer ideas. Knowing him, it'll end up twisted into a romance/drama plot nonetheless but if he has any sense, he'll break new ground. Trampling his favorite director's records underfoot were likely a fluke but one he needed.
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>>154617960
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>>154618077
Nah, it has to be good to stick.
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What did they mean by this?
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>>154618077
No, as the OP I can tell you right now /a/ doesn't care enough about Joshiraku to post this continuously. Maybe some idiot will now that I've posted this but if you think this is copypaste just quite yet, you are mistaken.
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I know this is by the author of SZS. Is it similar or is it more moe-oriented like a SoL?
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>>154618467
It's a parody of those kind of shows.
It tells you that it's full of boring dialogue so you can concentrate on how cute the girls are, then goes on to make references to weird shit that happened decades ago that even people in Japan forgot about, and Kumeta's own brand of anti-Korea right-wing nationalism.
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What Joshiraku would you ku?
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>>154618626
I would go:
Mari > Kukuru > Kigu > Tetora
I wouldnt even touch that filthy megane bitch.
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>take mescaline
>shitpost furtively
>get banned
>keep shitposting
>get banned
>STILL keep shitposting
>get rangebanned
>drive 100km westbound to use a public library to shitpost because I'm too high to use a VPN

Is this the appropriate procedure?
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What is mescaline?
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>>154619436
>Is this the appropriate procedure?
Tried and true.
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>>154620857
This sort of thing gets me wondering. What lengths have people gone to to post on 4chan? SHITpost even?
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>>154620776
What goths (ugly people) use to stink themselves up.
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>>154620924
Can you give a non-meme description?
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>>154620937
I confused it with Mascara. Look it up on mother fucking wikipedia.
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>>154621759
How do you even mistake those two?
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>>154620776
a drug
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>>154621759
>I confused it with Mascara.
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This should not have inspired me to download and watch Joshiraku but it did
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>>154622673
Watch it right now and post results please anon.
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GIVE BACK OUR LAND!
GIVE BACK OUR PEOPLE!
GIVE BACK OUR TECHNOLOGY!
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>>154622673
Enjoy your [gg] subs.
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Reminder
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>>154623710
T-two what?
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>>154623849
Two bombs.

They weren't enough.
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>>154623477
>not wanting popular references
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>>154624396
By the time gg finished subbing the series, these references were already dated.
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But we loved Joshiraku when it was airing OP. Were you even here? The only thing that sucked about it was [gg].
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>>154624757
Rephrase that, /a/ loved Joshiraku when it was SUBBED. The OP is talking exactly about the kind of people that watched it raw on /a/.
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>farfie is better than ggsubs
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>>154625154
Said nobody ever.
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>>154618286
We've literally had 3 Joshiraku threads over the last 3 days. It's popular enough.
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>>154625334
Link to archive posts?
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>>154625154
I thought Farfie was literally just gg subs slapped onto the BDs + a worse font?
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If you need subtitles, Joshiraku isn't for you.
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>>154625860
If you don't need subtitles but still pretend to understand every reference they mention which even Japanese people forgot about, you're bullshitting.
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>[gg] asspain right in the op
>after all those years

They got you gud.
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>>154625735
It's not difficult to search the archive. But yeah, four Joshiraku threads since the 11th, one broadly Kumeta thread and at least two SZS threads.

I'm not saying that getting one thread per day is normal but Joshiraku gets talked about a lot for a 5 year old show that wasn't one of the major shows of that season anyway and that had plenty of problems with subs.
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>>154625999
But it says it gg improved the show.
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>>154626072
Interestingly, Joshiraku aired in the same season that Jinrui did, which also has a similar cult following. Fun season.
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>>154626144
>Fun season.
It really was. I'll always think back on it fondly.
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>>154626072
This is an exception rather than the rule. Joshiraku threads are far less common than SZS threads on an annual basis.
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>>154625822
They also have subtitle timing issue. The type setting is off by a frame.
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>>154626222
And they should be, there's a lot less to talk about in both manga and anime form but it still has a reasonably large following for when it aired and what it was.
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>>154626417
It doesn't have a reasonably large following for when it aired nor does it for the content it has. It's severely underrated by actual viewers familiar with the references and overrated by those who think they "get" it.
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Get on my level. I understood every reference in Nichijou.

For example, the sandbox scene in Episode 3 is a reference to the foreword of L'Écume des jours in which Boris Vian writes that the only two real things in the world are the love of pretty girls and the music of New Orleans.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b7dmM-QMkmg
This is actually good
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>>154626469
The number of people who claim to understand every reference is tiny. Not even the guy who subbed it got every single one and plenty of actual Japanese wouldn't either. The vast majority of people who like the show are in the middle and understand a decent number of the main jokes and references, miss plenty of others and ultimately just enjoy the ordinary dialog that lets them fully focus on the cuteness of the girls.
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>>154626595
How do I be like you, anon?
I want to understand all references
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>>154626725
Here's a wiki link explaining all the jokes in episode one, in Japanese.
http://wiki.kumetan.net/index.php?%E7%AC%AC%E4%B8%80%E5%B8%AD%E3%80%8E%E6%99%AE%E6%AE%B5%E5%95%8F%E7%AD%94%2F%E3%81%B5%E3%81%8F%E9%81%95%E3%81%84%2F%E5%8F%AB%E3%81%B3%E6%8C%87%E5%8D%97%E3%80%8F
All of which is to say that nobody gets Joshiraku, except Kumeta himself.
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>>154626595
Nichijou and especially KyoAni references aren't hard. Good on you for graduating high school English but you shouldn't let it get to your head.
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How autistic are you?
I like to listen to anime MADs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lMEmLIr5BVg
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>>154626855
Some references and jokes are obscure or complex and others are simple as fuck. It's not all or nothing and I understood more than enough of them to nicely supplement my enjoyment of the cute girls.
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>>154627353
Mescaline is a hell of a drug.
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>>154627376
Exactly, I don't pretend to get it all, but what I did was more than enough.
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>>154627353
that's actually pretty standard weeb shit. not particularly autistic.
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>>154627376
>>154627438
That's fine if you don't claim to know more than you do. Back when Joshiraku was airing, you had idiots in the threads trying to explain jokes they didn't even understand themselves. For people that understand Japanese society and their history, it's actually really pathetic to read.
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>>154627353
I like how well this was made, there's loads of Mayim Mayim mixes, and they all seem amateurish compared to that one. At least the ones I've seen.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N6k7BHZsdXI
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>>154627292
What? Keiichi Arawi inserted a ridiculous amount of stuff that only he would understand, and he was involved in writing every script according to Ishidate.

There's a line in episode 2 that sounds mispronounced in Japanese, but becomes a pun if you translate it into Malay. Which could be written off as a coincidence, except Yukko says good morning in Malay in the first episode.
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>>154627689
>only he would understand
Listen, pal. Just because you're an uncultured EOP with no experience with what Arawi wrote besides what you jammed into Google Translate from a 2chan post, the same doesn't go for everyone else. Nichijou is low culture.
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>>154627771
Why are you this mad?
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>>154627827
If I was mad, I wouldn't be pushing for people to better understand Joshiraku. It is an outrage that people missed out on this show. It's like watching Pani Poni Dash and thinking you understand what it's about at face value.
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>there's an entire wiki in Japanese devouted to Kumeta's works because they are so dense with autistic references and bad jokes nobody understands
>somehow silly gaijin can't enjoy Joshiraku more than a Jap would
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>>154627858
ok
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>>154627911
Japan gets off on referential humor. This shit was wildly popular back in the day when they could get away with blatantly referencing other anime in their series. They still like to stroke their ego since it's bigger than their microdicks by understanding obscure references no one else would care about when enjoying a show.
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>>154627858
You can understand a show at face value without understanding every joke and reference, to say otherwise is ridiculous.
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>>154628477
Dokdo
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Look, I don't mean to trash Joshiraku, I really don't. But objectively, it's a shit anime. Any series telling you the dialogue is tertiary and to enjoy the cute girls only instead knows that it has no value. Worse yet because they only delivered on the girls being cute HALF the time, whether it was how they were dressed or acted. You know why there were so many references? It's because there's nothing there, no vested interest in portraying these girls in multiple settings with a driven purpose so instead they slap as many references as they can into the episode and call it a day. To say Lucky Star is secondary to Joshiraku only proves one thing and it's that you've never watched Lucky Star or watched it when you were still an anime babby.
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>>154628900
Lucky Star isn't really that good, irrespective of how good or bad Joshiraku is. It's the nostalgia talking.
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>>154629019
It's not irrespective of Joshiraku since that's what the entire OP post is about.
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>Joshiraku's lack of viewerbase

kek nigga, it was popular by nyaa standards
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>>154628900
>>154616673


You must be some newfag. The original work is a satire work with nearly all dialogue to reflect the inconsistencies and odd logic in Japanese society and some even beyond that similar to the mangaka's previous work Sayonara Zetsuba Sensei. You seem to miss all the satire in it somehow maybe due to being a shut in who has no relatable experience with society, or be a dumbass, or something and instead focused on the the pretty kawaii desu girls and took the show at face value.
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>>154629233
>garbage from current season VS downloads of a show from five years ago with a constantly increasing download count
Wow, what a great graph.
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>>154629295
These are the kind of armchair weeaboos I'm talking about.
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>>154627376
>enjoyment of the cute girls

Which was literally stated as the whole goal of the show, so I think we did it right.
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This thread is full of terrible posts so that when someone posts a picture of the girls you can enjoy their cuteness all the more.
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Can't decide if show is a satire with cute girls, or a show about cute girls with satire.
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>>154618626
Any of them.
Except maybe Kukuru.
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>>154629882
Sacrilege.
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>>154629882
shit taste
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>>154629310
The catching up is a lie. The episode downloads don't change much after two weeks.
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>>154630043
They do, especially since that second half is counting the original + batch.
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i only know this anime as the source of that gif of cute girls doing a silly dance.
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>>154630406
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DON DOKODOKO DON DOKODOKO DON DOKODOKO DON DOKODOKO
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>>154630426
You get through that backlog yet?
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>>154630153
There's also one without batch downloads. I added the batches just to show off btw.

From the shows I have analysed joshiraku is doing pretty well. Better than psg at least.
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>>154630635
>Kuromukuro ever being that high
>PSG doing worse than Joshiraku
>YoI doing worse than Kuromukuro on + batch downloads

I don't trust your information, or at least your method of collecting it.
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>>154630426
I'm halfway through episode 4 of Seto no Hanayome and I want to throw Maki into a fire.
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>>154629295
> The original work is a satire work with nearly all dialogue to reflect the inconsistencies and odd logic in Japanese society and some even beyond that similar to the mangaka's previous work Sayonara Zetsuba Sensei.
That's moreorless correct.

>You seem to miss all the satire in it somehow maybe due to being a shut in who has no relatable experience with society, or be a dumbass, or something and instead focused on the the pretty kawaii desu girls and took the show at face value.
A lot of the humor is obscure even for Japanese audiences, come on now. It's exactly why the show was so difficult to sub at all.
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>>154630875
Maki is pretty much a background character, she's at her most prominent during those first few episodes
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>>154616673
Everything you said only applies if you don't speak nip and don't understand their culture. Having lived in Japan for two years and being fluent in the language very little actually went over my head, I am not particularly smart either. I doubt any Jap is going to have any problems with understanding this.

That isn't to say it is a cleverly created and funny show, but this "required raw intelligence" you speak of is an illusion created by the subs coming with so many TL notes that you quite literally have to pause several times in an episode to read all the onscreen TL;DR.
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>>154631015
I wish I had read all of OP's post and realized it was all a shitpost. Kill me.
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>>154631015
Supposing this isn't bait, why would you move to Japan? Is it a decent place to find jobs, or is it just a meme created by weeaboos struggling to not die of starvation while molesting schoolgirls?
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>>154630712
i go to nyaa torrent, copy paste the whole page and do a sumproduct
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>>154631178
Fuck off and don't derail the thread.
>>>/trv/
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>>154631242
>japan general
>first link on the OP is about prostitution
People don't really go to Japan for this, right?
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>>154631366
I neither know nor care. This is a Joshiraku thread, not a Japan travel one.
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>>154631178
I speak Jap and am medically educated. I am from Germany and moved to moonland 2 years ago. I moved because I find Europe a sinking ship, simply put I no longer enjoyed living in Germany. I did an internship in Tokyo prior to moving here and I loved it, which is why I decided to move here. Is the country perfect? No, but it is clean and people are polite, which is more than can be said for Germany.

As for Jobs, the medical sector here is struggling to keep up with the pressure from their upside down age pyramid, so in my field a job wasn't that hard to come by.
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>>154631015
>>154631100
How about if you read the actual post and realized that's exactly what it fucking says? It's about the retards that have seen anime and suddenly think they know about actual Japanese society without even knowing the language, also known as your average poster on /a/.
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>>154632115
DON'T YOU DARE SAY SOMETHING ABOUT PANDAS
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>>154632076
Yes and now go back and read the entire gibberish about mescaline at the end, its shitposting, maybe ironically so, but irnoic shitposting is still shitposting.

Also the start talks about "raw intelligence required" not "you need to understand a bit of moon culture" as you seem to imply. The latter would be true, the former however is bullshit, this isn't a brainy show at all.
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>>154632310
Kigu's got broads in Atlanta.
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>>154632326
>a bit
You are clearly someone that didn't get the references.
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>>154633584
No, you just are clearly someone who has never been outside his front door and thinks a bunch of references in a cartoon make you understand an entire culture. The sort of guy who watches Monty Python and then believes he "gets" British culture.

Educate yourself anon.
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>>154617173

>all long posts are pasta
>/a/ should be just bite-sized one liners only, ala "I want to marry [x]"
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>>154634377
Well on the other hand, you can be sure that one-line OPs aren't pastas.
And if they are, then OP is not simply a faggot, he is the laziest faggot in town, who the fuck copy-pastes one line?
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>>154617334
What about Yoshiyuki Tomino?
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anime is dead and will never revive .
get over it.
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>>154616673
>the very same people you have intellectual discussions with
No, I only come here to post the occasional "I want to fuck x" or "ywn be x"
Intellectual discussions are for homosexual faggots.
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>>154621759
this thread delivered after all
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>>154634756
Tomino is a bit of a wildcard. His success with Gundam didn't come until a little after his original works which, for a robot series, had very poor designs for marketing and little else appeal. This is more salient with Dunbine, Garzey's Wing, and other series he worked on; without robots, Tomino's weapon grade autism fell on deaf ears by making a cast that was not believable nor likeable. Even Gundam wasn't truly embraced by the Japanese audience from the start but the notion of a teenager thrust into a war setting and forced to fend for themselves managed to coincide with Tomino's inability to portray reasonable character interactions; in a war setting, no one is expected to act completely rational. Take Amuro ditching White Base with his Gundam and messing around in Zeon armed outposts because he had a temper tantrum. Gundam is about the only work that is universally appreciated not because Tomino made likeable characters but because they're made realistic by the setting. You can see why G-Reco had such divided opinions on it from this phenomenon too. Half of the viewers praise it for following Tomino's brand of robot series to a T while the other half realize the character motivations cease to make sense in the setting of the series. Belri's attitude swings back and forth like a pendulum and the state of affairs for the cast rarely has to do with it.
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>>154634377
It's Poe's Law. When you see a post as garbage as the OP you can't really tell.
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JUGEMU JUGEMU
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I can't tell if this is memes or if Joshiraku is the learned man's animu.

Teach me kudosai.
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>>154635515
Man I'd read your anime history blog.
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>>154618467
About a half to two thirds of every episode are dedicated to exploring Japan. They are in different outfits every time.

It is a SoL. So was SZS but this is even more of a SoL.
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>>154626173
>>154626144
Both were quite good, but felt somewhat different from most other anime. I'm not sure how to quantify that though
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>>154636876
Joshiraku is the thinking man's anime, no questions asked.
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>>154629233
Do you have a script to quickly create these graphs?
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>>154637392
It's more like a third or two fifths
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