Why are Japanese MC's such betas?

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>>154588423
>Peope are STILL MAD
Holy shit the amount of butthurt this scene caused never ceases to amaze me

>>154588423
The path to wizardry or getting isekai'd is a rocky one. One must endure and stay pure.

>>154588423
>Iori
>Beta
Alpha doesn't mean sacrificing everything for sex.

>>154590872
>not sacrificing everything for sex

Why would you ruin a good group dynamic by trying to get some quick pussy when you can wait it out and actually go for other women in the group you're actually interested in?

>people still don't get that she was testing him

>>154592053

It wasnt a test though.

>>154592053
I think he failed.

>>154588423
> turning down sex
> beta

pick one cause only a beta caves into sex

>>154588423
What series is that?

>>154592832
Big Azure

>>154592832
Huge Aqua

>>154592832
Big Blue

>>154592832
Huge Cobalt

>>154592832
Large Cobalt

>>154592832
Big Meaty Claws

>>154591385
Your mentality is really worrying.

>>154592832
Enormous Indigo

>>154592832
Gigantic Turquoise

>>154592832
gigantic ultramarine

>>154592832
Blue Balls

>>154592832
Humongous Ciel

>>154594016
stay a virgin nerd lol

>>154592832
Not small clear ass

>>154592832
Sizable Aquamarine

I'm not gonna link to all of you guys because that's cancer but for fucks sake we got it it's enough

>>154592832
Big Azure

>>154592303
Its always a test

>>154588423
>Aarggh look how much I'm struggling about having free easy pussy.
>Gotta pass on it though, only fags have sex

Literally lost interest in the manga after this

>>154594738
Next time don't self insert into the main charatcer virgin

>>154594738
There are reprocussions to deal with after the act.

>>154594784
Next time I won't read shitty meme manga

>>154594822
ebin, stay mad retard

>>154592832
Thick Sapphire

>>154592832
Boku no Pico

>>154588423
He was trying to prevent himself from getting killed by the scum squad anon.

>>154594812
This is what I don't get, there would be repercussions only if he treat it like casual sex, with how desperately the MC want a girlfriend, he has no reason to treat it that way
If he treat it as a serious relationship there is no reason why he should reject Azusa-chan

>>154592832
Grand Blue

Realistically, Iori is actually very smart in this scenario. He sees Azusa as a very good friend who has helped him fit into the diving shop and is worried about how his friends would see him if any of them found out he had sex with her. What would The Dudes say? Or Big Tits Cousin? Or Otaku? Or Cakey? I'm not sure many of them would like him anymore if he did that.
Note, it's clear he wants to SMASH that pussy, but to him his friendship and the club are more important.

>>154595296
>What would The Dudes say?

Nothing, they'd just bring cement and a shovel for Iori.

Why are you so invested in whether a fictional character has sex? Just watch porn, you weirdo.

>>154595296
Why wouldn't they like him getting with a girl?

I love how people make dumb excuses for this because they like the manga

>>154591385
Sounds like a depraved beta thing to do

>>154595279
>there would be repercussions only if he treat it like casual sex
It was casual sex anon

Why is all of 4chan so obsessed with this alpha/beta thing nowadays? It used to be just /r9k/.

>>154595387
I'm never see /a/ so head over heels for a scene like this you would think they just brush it off but no, they go on and on.

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>>154594153
Like this?

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Honestly i though the same but after this scene i think Iori made the right choice

>>154595411
because asuza has a past relationship with them, and they're all good friends. When friends start having sex with one another, and other people find out, it gets really awkward.
SOURCE: personal experience

>>154595411
Do you even read this?

>>154595463
People grew up.

Whats the actual thing that publishers expect the readers to do if the protagonist is told to have sex/not be a virgin?
To drop the series right there becuase of it?
What happens if the mc isnt a virgin?

Non H-manga generally cant have sex scenes (there are a few exceptions) because they sell to kids/teenagers (even if they're aimed at adults, kids will still find a way to buy it) and the magazines don't want to get in trouble. Naturally any male who had a harem of beautiful women pining for him would just fuck them. But since the author cant have that happen, he needs to come up with some kind of excuse why they don't. The easiest way is to either make them beta or incredibly dense. The authors don't want to do this shit, they have to because the magazines tell them to.

>>154595990
This is probably the most mature college-age manga I've read in a long while, which is really fucking ironic considering the content.

If any manga would actually have a sex moment in it, tastefully done, I'd expect it from this.

>>154595832
The problem is the small chance that their series gets singled out and banned like a few have been (Aki Sora for example). Some magazines are willing to take the risk, kind of like how Yabuki is willing to take the risk to draw vaginas in sinks. Many don't want to risk it though, even if the chance if very low.

>>154592832
Great Cerulean

>>154595828
...And what? And they left 4chan, leaving it full of only teenagers and wizards?

>>154595616
>SOURCE: shitty friends
FTFY

>>154596170
>Aki Sora for example
That's was because incest, dumbfuck

>>154595411
I love how people shit on a manga because they only saw one page, and have not actually read it

>>154592832
substantial sapphire

>>154596227
Ye

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>>154592832
Grand Blue

>>154596281
The law allows the Tokyo government to ban anything they consider too sexually stimulating for minors. Of course they targetted Aki Sora specifically because it had incest but if they wanted to they could ban anything with sex scenes. Especially with the Olympics coming up it's a very real fear.

>>154592832
Grand Beer

>>154596230
I don't think it's just me anon
>alice and bob have sex without dating
>everyone knows they have sex
>eventually bob and candy hook up
>now have to deal with the fact that multiple people have had sex with each other, especially if they get into fights
just makes things awkward, anon

>>154596582
>Especially with the Olympics coming up it's a very real fear
>the law was in 2010

>>154596582
>Olympics
Dark times are sure to come.

>>154596706
>casual sex between friends
Like I said, shitty friends

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>>154588539
This one is probably the all-time champ.

>>154592832
Large Lapis

>>154596829
Nah, just interpersonal relationships

>>154592832
Immense Navy

So is this worth reading or no? From what this thread explained, this chick introduces him to the diving club and gets him some bros, but for some reason randomly offers him casual sex to which he declines to anons dismay. Do they explain if she likes him or not or was just testing him or what?

>>154596953
Keep telling yourself that, man.

>>154596973
She's a slut.

>>154596973
She's a complete whore.

>>154596993
>>154597012
Is there a reason why she's a slut?

>>154595990
Grand Blue is in a seinen magazine, so they have considerably looser content restrictions.

>>154597073
No backstory yet.

>>154596985
Keep telling yourself that every social group will be fine when people start having sex with each other

>>154597234
Did I said that? I said that if you have good relationships that does not happen, don't try to put words in my mouth.

>>154596973
Yes, what you said isn't true, and just read it already

>>154596973
She likes him to some degree, but neither of them have considered dating each other. She kind of looks out for him.

She might think they are bisexual buddies, or she could just be teasing him at this point.

He thought it was a test.

>>154597073
We haven't seen why she acts like she does.

Essentially she didn't give a shit about stripping since day one, because she did that freshman year in the contest.

Although we haven't heard about her or seen her sleep with anyone.

My main problem with this chapter wasn't that he turned down the sex, it was that she even offered in the first place.

Especially since we're not given a concrete reason for it. It just makes her look super slutty. I know she was never portrayed as some chaste maiden but asking for casual sex with some guy you don't know that well for no real reason rubs me the wrong way.

>>154597347
>things like jealousy and envy don't exist
not sure what world you're living in where every friend is a completely selflessly good person, especially when they're as young as college or highschool

>>154597558
They were buddies by that point

>>154597558
>It just makes her look super slutty

She is though. She's a good person though, the Nanaka chapter proves that.

>>154588423
because many writers have no idea how intimate relationships work

just look at fan fictions, they reek of autism, depression, and social ineptitude. most writers in japan write in much the same way, only they have an editor to argue with about it.

>>154595990
Surely they can do some kind of "They embrace/start making out, fade to black" type of thing can't they?

>>154597946
has she had sex during the course of the manga?

>>154598383
I see no reason there couldn't be implied sex.

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>>154595990
>Non H-manga generally cant have sex scenes

Wait, what about that zombie one? Doesn't he explicitly fuck the shit out of some girl for an entire chapter and it isn't an h manga?

>>154598483
Manga (even anime) can have sex scenes. It's entirely up to the magazine they're in, the editors, the author, etc.

>>154595990
>Non H-manga generally cant have sex scenes (there are a few exceptions)
First off, this is not fucking true at all, unless "a few" means something way different to you than me. Second off, people having sex does not imply a sex scene.

>>154588423
Because the author and readers are also beta.

>>154588423
He wasn't being beta.

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>>154588423
Meanwhile in the west.

>>154598791
>The Adventures of Average Japanese Man

>>154596973
>this chick introduces him to the diving club and gets him some bros
She did neither of these things.

>>154588423
That was being manly as fuck. Pure respect for the dude.

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>>154588423
>giving up your virginity to used goods
>ever
He made the right choice.

>>154600000
Virginity isnt something you're supposed to hold on to.

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>>154600000
>used goods

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>>154600058
Kill yourself

>>154597633
How long will it take until you understand that /a/ can't grasp the concept of IRL friends?

>>154600058
Nor is it something you're supposed to throw away at your earliest convenience. In any case it's your virginity and no one else's, choosing what to do with it based on what others tell you should do is infinitely more pathetic than simply choosing to stay a virgin.
>>154600099
Five zeroes, infallible argument.

>>154588423
Good. The only person who should take his virginity is Chisa.

>>154600058
You were penetrated in the ass.

>>154592832
Above average #0000FF

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>>154600293
What, because your first time was taken by someone who has experienced many better penises, scrutinizing your every movement while likely barely internally registering you as a man and more like a child with an erection that could potentially provide a fleeting moment of casual entertainment?
What could be so embarrassing about that?

>>154600589
>actually expecting them to ever fall for each other

Please. They'll probably kiss and date and then realize they don't like each other enough to continue it if this manga's track record of deconstructing cliches is anything to go by.

>>154596829
It's not just casual sex that messes up friend groups. Dating within an established friend group is usually awkward. It gets worse when you try to keep it a secret, which I've seen too many people do.

>>154600789
So fucking what? That don't mean the group is going to break or change for the worse, grow a fucking pair, faggot.

>>154601025
Actually yes it has split up groups

>>154588423
Which chapter was this

>>154601197
The one where he stays in the pool overnight and gets sick.

>>154592832
Gargantuan Sapphire

>>154595290
That's the stupidest name I ever heard.

>>154595828
>Grow up
>Become /rk9/
There's no way the ratios that high

>>154595463
I remember I first started hearing it on 4chan. I thought at the time it was the dumbest, cringiest fucking shit and that it would never catch on. Then a few months later literally the whole internet is using it and years later here we still are.

>>154600000
Nice quints, Berserkman.

>>154592832
Royal Violet

>>154592832
Towering Teal

>>154592832
Impressive Navy

>>154592832
Massive fish

>>154608553
You mean Royal Navy?

>>154592832
>wanting us to spoonfeed
fuck off. i'll give you a hint.
its a drinking manga

>>154596865
this was a really underrated scene. well written. like actually totally captured the essence of being an adolescent boy. i love gitsac.

>>154592832
Vast Azure

>mfw reading this thread
This is one of those normalfag pandering manga like Kuzu no Honkai and OMK isn't it? Dropped.

>>154588423
Betas are just popular. No jap can relate to a badass alpha pussy slayer

>>154592832
Shimoneta

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>>154598641
>sticking pingas in degenerate slut

>>154609242
Most 'alphas' in anime are badly written strawmen/false flags like Aur and Makoto Itou so the beta power levels get worse.

Then again can anything pass World's End Harem's MC on the beta scale?

>>154588423
So you can relate.

>>154611718
Insert quasi normalfag 'I get pussy' quote here that shits up the thread.

>>154611751
Just a matter of time

>started reading Grand Blue

what the fuck am i reading

>>154611892
Grand Blue I think

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>>154611927

is it supposed to be some homo pedo incest fest the whole time?

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>>154611970
>is it supposed to be some homo pedo incest fest the whole time?
What the fuck does that mean?
How the fuck did you reach that conclusion?

>>154612005

bunch of dudes drinking and wanting to get naked with each other living with a girl who's in love with her sister and some lolicon shirt wearing high school fetishist just joined their club

>>154592832
Big Guy

>>154612005
No idea, never read it, I thought you were just confused about what you were reading

>>154608770
>like actually totally captured the essence of being an adolescent boy
Fuck that, when I was an adolescent boy no purple vagina haired cyborg that naked and close would have been safe

>>154612053
It's pretty fucking gay
There is even another gay girl

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>>154612662
Which barely matters because she is also a miracle of the universe

>>154591385
>That desperate for used poon

Memoirs of a beta right there, beta

>>154592832
Collage drinking

>>154592832
Grandblue Fantasy: real world edition

>>154596973
No it's shit. Mc is an alcoholic, molester, exhibitionist, yet somehow the girl still develops feeling toward him

>>154613699
>yet somehow the girl still develops feeling toward him
Who Azusa? Because you might be mentally handicaped if you really think that

>>154596865
I watched that scene when I was teenager. It's been more than a decade and I am still mad.

>>154611892
Animal House with diving.

>>154613764
No, the other one. You have to be retarded to not see that

>>154613827
Who Aina?

>>154588423
They know their audience.

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>>154613699
You only say that cause you're too much of a pussy to get on stage dressed in drag for the sake of defending a (cakey) girl's honor.

>>154588423
I didn't think it was that bad.

>>154592832
aqua coelum

>>154613699
the story is dumb but it is pretty funny and falls away from the harem norm where the mc is a faggot with no personality

>>154613842
think he means Chisa. They'd all probably fuck him anyways except Nanaka probably.

Kouhei is mai waifu.

>>154592832
Thousand Extra-rare

>>154611892
Same, just finished chapter 30. I love it, was laughing my ass off the whole time.

Its funny and cool how it accurately portrays college life compared to every other manga ever that does the same old shit.

It's just weird how the author cant decide who to ship with who. Azusa is in the friendzone with both her interests and even though she did offer sex to MC halfheartedly, I think if he actually kissed her and started to take her clothes off she would get cold feet in the middle and would make things awkward between them. Same with Chisa, she acts like she hates him most of the time which is typical Tsundere, but i get the feeling that the author cant decide if she should like him underneath it all or just straight up not like him in that way.

Only obvious one is Cakey. Id be fine with her going for it but it seems like Iori likes tits so too bad Azusa only sees him as "a good kid." But this manga seems far from over and its fucking solid in every aspect so there is time for romance to happen eventually.

Gotta admit though, if I was in that situation with a beauty like that, I'd do it. Yes shit might possibly get a little weird down the road but that body is worth it. Plus since the one guy she likes is in a relationship already anyway and Nanaka is clueless about lesbian love, I dont think it would effect the others unless the author finally makes up their mind on if the girls seriously like Iori or not.

>>154615543
>It's just weird how the author cant decide who to ship with who
The main ship is Iori/Chisa is so fucking obvious. I don't understand all the mental gymnastics some people make about the romance in this manga

>>154614288
So far its:
Nanaka - would not fuck
Shiori - would not fuck
Chisa - might fuck (cant tell if tsundere or not)
Azusa - might fuck (she's flirty but who knows how she'd act if actually made a serious move)
Aina - would fuck, shes just too beta to make a move

>>154615641
But I dont want him to end up with Chisa. Azusa needs to experience a real relationship and some hard dick.

>>154615676
>would fuck, shes just too beta to make a move
Eh i don't see it

>>154615776
Really? It's even more obvious than the author trying to ship Iori and Chisa occasionally.

>>154615716
But Asuza route is unlocked as a consequence of the Chisa route.

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>people actually think any of the main characters being together will be endgame

>>154617629
Azusa route deleted himself out of existence after this page>>154595603