Crab deserves only hate. Abusive, manipulative, violent, unfaithful

>>154587317
I always liked cat better. Crab a shit.

Never liked Crab. She has some okay moments but I don't understand why she's worth all that loyalty that Araragi gives her when he seemed more into Cat or Bat. When he says he loves her, it comes off as a mantra for him to repeat so that he doesn't get tempted into loving better women

reminder crab and Kaiki fucked in canon.

>>154587429
> it comes off as a mantra for him to repeat
Exactly

>>154587393
this

Cat > Snake > rest

>>154587451
Senjougahara mentioned she was a virgin in the beginning when meeting Araragi on the playground where they meet Hachikuji, so Kaiki x Senjougahara did never have sex.

At least as far as i know.

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>>154587554
They fucked in Koi.

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I wanna fuck this He/she.

>>154587554
they fuck in owari 3

>>154587393
Both are complete dogshit though

ITs probably difficult to put together the full picture of his reasoning without being a lightnovelfagg.
I think one of the large attractions for him is how brutally honest and asssertive she is. The things you listed beingg some of the faults she has as a result of the crab carrying all the weight of her burdens. This leads room for her development later on down the line.

>>154587927
> brutally honest
> will never tell him about Koi

>>154587317
She is shit.
Araragi is also shit himself, he admits as such even.
That feeds into his whole reasoning, he can see her as his equal in a relationship (which he can't do with Hanekawa, contrary to what people here keep saying he'd still say no to her even if she asked him out first, for this reason)

>>154588298
> he can see her as his equal in a relationship
Because they both are shit?

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>>154588415
That's right, my man.

>>154588546
B-but Bat loves him! She can't love shit.

>>154588298
>That feeds into his whole reasoning, he can see her as his equal in a relationship
According to Ougi in Ougi Dark that's not even true. He knows that Gahara would/could fall for anyone who saved her and feels guilt over the possibility that he's just taking advantage of her this way or some shit.

He should just fuck Ougi to be honest, objectively the best fit for him.

>>154588585
She loves his cute abs and his doughnuts.

>>154588686
> According to Ougi
Gaen. Not Ougi.

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>>154588686
> Gahara would/could fall for anyone who saved her
What a slut
Plus she will drop him for a better match

>>154588739
Yeah my bad, I just checked.
>“You saved Hitagi Senjougahara from the distress that had plagued her for years—so when you started dating her afterwards, you couldn’t help wondering if you were just ‘taking advantage of her weakness.’

>>154588839
She explains what she meant by that in the very webm you posted. It's just standard "relationships need both ends to work at it in order to stay maintained" type stuff, just in Nisio's usual bullshit roundabout way of writing.

>>154589028
Yeah that's great. But she would drop him anyway.

>>154588585
He's shit who works hard for her when it counts and makes her happy.

>>154589496
He thinks he is shit himself but is he really?
He devoted his life to Kissshot.
He helped so many girls.
He is not that bad.

Non-Japanese could never hope to understand Hitagi's character, it is too psychologically removed from them.

>>154589103
the fact that they get married means that there is no one better than araragi

and its completely normal to leave someone if someone else is going to make you happier

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>>154589982
> and its completely normal to leave someone if someone else is going to make you happier
I don't want to believe in that. Not after Bake 12 and all their aishiterus.

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>>154590106
well its completely healthy mindset in real life
"why settle for worse"
idk about anime love though I think that lasts forever

>>154590193
> lasts forever
3 breakups
Not forever enough

>>154590258
what 3 break ups?

>>154590281
They broke up 3 times.

>>154590317
when?

>>154590352
In college and after
Here
http://mirroredtranslations.tumblr.com/post/156332412867/tsudzura-human-chapter-3
http://pastebin.com/GcmVaHZj
http://pastebin.com/ab9kyJMx

>>154590482
I feel like she acts like a regular irl girl, which is why most anons dont like her
>second break up was over something trivial

this was cute though
>“I sent lots of mails to the CEO about establishing a Japan branch under the condition that I officially advance to team manager, and somehow it took shape. It’s not the final decision, but as soon as the budget problems are cleared, I can come back to this town together with my higher-ups and the team this spring. That way I can live together with you again.”
>“…………”
>She had advanced the discussion by her own accord.
>What? Whaat? Whaaaaaaat?
>She put conditions on her promotion? Not only that, but she ended up involving her higher-ups and her team? Just in order to come back to Japan? Just to not be separated from me anymore?

>>154590919
That's not "regular" outside of soap operas that intentionally have stuff like that there for drama at all.

"Regular" would be him meeting a girl, dating for a while, marrying and then living a plain at best, grumpy at worst marriage forever/until divorce. Not what Araragi and Gahara have going on.

>>154590919
>I feel like she acts like a regular irl girl
She really doesn't, a regular girl would've ditched him ages ago. I dunno how Crabfags and Snakefags manage to see any of the stuff that happens in this series as being realistic like you guys always say.

She's as batshit as the others but doesn't get enough screentime to remind people of that.

>>154590998
1st reason they broke up was because he didnt tell her about a girl living in his house and she got jealous

I think this is pretty normal for girls who are insecure

>>154591126
Setting aside how it wasn't a normal scenario at all
She lets Araragi slide on stuff way lewder than Sodachi living at his family house (where his sisters and parents were still at, even)

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>>154591099
I personally dont get the hate people have for crab?
as far as what OP says she was only abusive/violent in the beginning because she couldnt trust people
I dont remember reading anywhere that she is unfaithful and wasnt Kaiki just her first crush and that was before he swindled her

>>154591315
Did you mean to reply to me? I don't hate Crab.

>>154590919
>I feel like she acts like a regular irl girl
>first thing she does as his girlfriend in his series is order him to go on a date with her lesbian stalker
Nah man. The stuff in Musubi was just manufactored out of the need to have some drama going on. Araragi was fucking killing himself at one point in the series while not telling her why, and she handled the situation more calmly than she did in the Sodachi situation. Call Nisio a hack or Gahara a shit, whatever your preference is I guess but it's not what you're saying.

Cat all the way

>>154591359
oh i guess i read it wrong
but i do think crab is acting realistically based on what she went through in her life
she tried to be a great student and that only made her mother believe in a cult more
when she tried to get help people took advantage of her

>>154591462
does musubi have anything oddity related or has it just gone full SOL

>>154591657
It's Araragi doing his job as a ghost buster with one of his monster girl co-workers, while reuniting with or reminiscing about the usual cast along the way. The Crab stuff is only mentioned offhand here and there + is covered in the brief final chapter.

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>>154590482
>monkey wants to be a sports doctor
I didnt know I needed this so bad