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Why isn't Zero no Tsukaima as popular and relevant now as

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Why isn't Zero no Tsukaima as popular and relevant now as it was during the late 2000s?
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>>154564327
rip
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>>154564327
it's garbage
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Why do people think acting like a complete retard is a good way to start a thread?
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I feel like you answered your own question there
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>>154564392
Why do people thinking acting like a complete asshole is a good way to enrich a thread?
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>>154564327
I forgot the name of that blonde elf and im not talking about that titty monster of tiffa also louise WORST GIRL EVER
LOUISEFAGS SUCKS MY BALLS!!!
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>>154564327
Literally a dead series. ;_;
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>>154564327
>Why isn't Zero no Tsukaima as popular and relevant now as it was during the late 2000s?
Because it was made in the days before anime tried to stay within source material. The studio made so many changes that the plot basically ceased to exist. It makes proper sequels impossible.

Full Metal Panic nearly suffered the same fate, but then Gatoh showed up and re-wrote brand new scripts to redirect the Gonzo anime back on track to the novels in TSR.
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>>154564520
Note that Shakugan no Shana ended up given major surgery as well to undo the damage done in the 1st season, in order to have a sequel.

There was a time when anime versions of stories suck by default. Now, anime versions suck half the time, instead of all of the time.
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>>154564327
Because is pure cancer
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>>154564520
>>154564594

Thank you, anon-kun! That's honestly very interesting. I didn't know things were so ghetto during the 2000s compared to the 2010s.
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>>154564798
On that note, I wonder when the transition point was. I know that Toradora received a mostly faithful adaptation, which was the very end of the 2000s since it finished in 2009.
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>>154564327
>why isn't this dead anime popular and relevant as it was when it came out

you tell me
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>>154564594
or maybe it was just jc staff
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>>154564327
It was never popular and relevant. It was just yet another shitty violent tsundere harem.
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>>154565190
>Zero no Tsukaima
>never popular
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>>154565190
violent tsundere harem AND isekai
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>>154564327
Because
1. It ended ages ago
2. The author literally died of cancer it was such a shit series
3. Nobody cares about generic tsundere LNs. This is the age of the generic Gary Stu LN.
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>>154565190
>It was never popular and relevant. It was just yet another shitty violent tsundere harem.

The anime was. The novel on the other hand, was about a magic war revolving around nobility.
>>154565249
>3. Nobody cares about generic tsundere LNs. This is the age of the generic Gary Stu LN.

Actually the anime IS another one of those "main character gaining cheating superpowers in the alternate world", it's just that the elemt got removed in the anime to turn it into comedy. The novel was very serious after the story get going.

Basically, ZnT would have been another Isekai series on air today, and it would likely be more popular because it would have the Zero fighterplane shooting dragons, the laptop that still works and connect to the internet, and the main girl using her void magic to basically nuke shit to win the war.
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>>154565383
Don't use the Isekai word for ZnT, do yourself a favor. We need to freed from this new spamming cancer.
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>>154564327
Are you dumb? All popular series eventually decline or fade as the years go by. Look at fucking Haruhi.
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>I don't want to die.
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>>154565622
Did Haruhi used to be super popular or something? I didn't get into anime until 2013...
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>>154564327
>why isn't this show as popular and relevant as when it aired
I fucking wonder.
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>>154566455
Haruhi was popular to the extreme. It wouldn't be an exaggeration to say it was the most popular anime during its length peak, boosted by the phenomenon it created that shook the industry and anime community like a hurricane.
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>>154566455
Very, if a new season came out for it, there would be massive hype. New Season of Geass might be an indicator of how much /a/ likes certain series, then again Haruhi may be even bigger if got a new season since it's had more source material for it for years.
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>>154564327
>Why aren't anime as popular over a decade and a half later, especially those with a dead author?
What possessed you to make this thread?
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>>154566795
>a decade and a half

Anon... even the first season was only 10.5 years ago.
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>>154564887
>Toradora was eight years ago

fucking hell
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>>154564327
>Why isn't Zero no Tsukaima as popular and relevant now as it was during the late 2000s?- 30 posts and 4 image replies shown.
Cause it's over and it has been discussed.
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>>154564887
>On that note, I wonder when the transition point was. I know that Toradora received a mostly faithful adaptation, which was the very end of the 2000s since it finished in 2009.
It was possibly when the original creators realised that they have the power to do something about it. Ken Akamatsu threw a giant fit online about how the Negima anime was butchered. And I believe that was the very first time an author complained in public. This was in 2005.

Now, the culture is such that Negima NEVER go a faithful adaptation, despite three separate attempts. This was how damn hard it was to find even a single anime studio who even knows how to follow a script.

This is where we pull out KyoAni, who famously managed the impossible in Kannon, by literally merging every single one of the separate storylines in a game into a cohesive whole. This was only possible because they know the game inside-out. This was 2006.

I personally believe that this is two of the major factors. That 1. Authors start to realise they need to put their foot down and take control.
and
2. Studios realised that more faithful adaptations can be done, and it lead to better chance of sequels, and thus more job for them.
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Literally gives you cancer.
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>>154564327
it already got 3 seasons and if I recall pretty much everything got resolved. there is no deep world attached to it like Index so 3 seasons is all we really needed
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>>154568935
>there is no deep world attached to it like Index so 3 seasons is all we really needed
That's where you are wrong. The anime studio surgically removed all the references to the deeper world. It became slapstick, but it wasn't what it was meant to be.

Given the same treatment, Index would never have survived one season. That's how bad it was. ZnT was a massively popular series of books for a reason, and not because of the anime abuse of the male protagonist.
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With some LN such as the many battle school harems and generic isekais an adaptation that was less faithfull to the source material would have been better.
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>>154564327
Dead author, worst girl forced into winning because fuck everything, though in hindsight this may not be a bad thing seeing as the mc is shit too.
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>>154564887
>On that note, I wonder when the transition point was. I know that Toradora received a mostly faithful adaptation, which was the very end of the 2000s since it finished in 2009.
It is easier to tell the transition per studio.

For example, JC Staff clearly started transition with 2008 Shakugan no Shana season 2. And then they gave Tora Dora a decent adaptation in 2009.

For SHAFT, their transition is some where at 2008, when they retconned the 1st season of SZS with an OVA that was closer to the manga. And after that their fully faithful adaptation was the Monogatari franchise that they are still cashing in.

With just these two studios, I am willing to consider 2008 the turning point year.
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Is it like Konosuba?
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>>154565487
ZnT is the origin of all the hero with a cheat ability in another world.
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>>154564594
SnS s1 was pretty good, the problem was he first half of s2 with the whole "I'm totally not the evil girl" retarded plot.

The rest of the anime was very close to the source, although they had to skip a lot of stuff due to time constraints. Even if in the end it was rushed badly I can appreciate the effort to deliver the whole story.
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>>154566455
Stop posting. Lurk for another 3 or 4 years.

You might be alright, but right now you disgut me.
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>>154564327
All things fade in the flow of time as relevancy declines. It's a natural order of things. You should be glad fans in Japan were still numerous and active enough to have the publisher finish the LN story of a decreased author. I know I am for being allowed to see the conclusion that the author intended, plus Louise's glorious end where Saito makes love to Louise all night long in canon
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>>154564327
Because the anime ended? Because it's 2017?
Because Louise is a total bitch?
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>>154568827
That shit happened in the past too. Rumiko was butthurt by how much Oshii improved Urusei Yatsura that she had him removed from the show so someone else could make it more like the manga.
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>>154569947
Obviously the first two are major reasons why, but we still have threads from time to time if you look at /a/. Other places still talks about it and have fans still following and translating the light novels. But the third? Say what? Louise was more bitchy (for a reason) when the series first began and that was during the time Zero no Tsukaima was popular.
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>>154564327
jej Louise is my eternal waifu, but op.. it's been 13 years since the story began and 5 years since the anime ended, Noboru (pbuh) isn't with us anymore either, the novel was stalled for years till a few weeks ago.
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>>154564327
All popular series fade away at some point.
The only few that didn't managed to stay under the spotlight by regularly releasing material to keep fans invested.
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>>154569057
On the bright side, best girl wins for two days a week.
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>>154570124
>it's been 13 years since the story began
>it's also been 13 years since Death Note began, 14 years since Sould Eater began, 16 years since FMA began
I feel old all of a sudden.
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>>154564327
I've never been sure if it's a good anime or not. It was the anime that forced me to try subs for the first time, because only season 1 had dubs. I remember really liking Saito and a few girls and finding it fun, but I haven't rewatched it in years, so maybe it's just nostalgia.
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>>154564327
>Why isn't [insert any former popular series/franchise] as popular and relevant now as it was during the [insert 90's/00's]?

What is this, a new effective bait? The answer is so obvious because the question is retarded.
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>watching old anime
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>>154564327
It wasn't great even back then. People followed it because it was one of the few Isekai series that got an anime adaptation for several consecutive seasons.

ZnK is trash with a few good girls in it.
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>>154564327
Because it's shit you faggot. Get a better tatse.
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>>154564327
Reboot with the novel ending when
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>>154564392
Unfortunately, because it is. Being retarded gets replies telling you you're retarded while keeping the thread alive because no one bothers to sage.
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