ITT: manga that you found instrumental to your process of self-discovery

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I only wish I had read it when I was still a teen.

the first footjob doujin i read

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I''S and Great Teacher Onizuka.
I read them when I was in highschool

GTO blew me away as a kid.

>>154557798
what do you mean

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>>154556407
Every manga helps me overcome my natural excellence and get closer to being a useless NEET.

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It feels bad when you relate to one of the most hated characters in manga history. But it didn't change my circumstance, just acted as a reminder. I am a fuck up. I should not try and overreach. My life has become more normal now.

>>154556407
lol what a fucking nerd.

"I self discovered myself and overcame my demons through this manga"

hahahahah get a life you pampered, overgrown kid

>>154557798
>what do you call it when you self-discover but neglect self-overcoming in favor of sitting in your room and analyzing all your flaws and neuroses
I call it relatable content.

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>>154557262
huh, interesting choice.

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>>154558666
Where you in an urge to murder people or something or is it just the physical aspect from wimp to buff dude that you liked?

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>>154556407

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Punpun

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>>154558963
>no new chapter
>no new vagabond chapter either

i cant believe inoue left us hanging like that.

>>154558762
And why is that? It was probably the most riveting story of self-overcoming that I've read in manga.

Also, it's funny how both of our end digits are 62.

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>>154558856
>>154558880

The first arc in Shamo and Berserk inspired me to start lifting.

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>>154558562
You shouldn't hate punpun. He's just a product of his fucked up circumstances.
Punpun was just a flawed human that made rash decisions while focusing on the wrong things (getting laid isn't nearly as important as he thought)

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>>154558932
i read the whole thing on friday and it seriously fucked me up

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>>154559069
Because it's fairly obscure manga, you'd hardly see it mentioned so that alone is surprising, and I never really felt like the message it had was that intense psychologically or emotionally.

>>154557798
Fear and stagnation.

>>154559289
Lol are you serious? You mean to tell me that all of the prisoners sacrificing themselves for Gai didn't move you? It might seem edgy but I was able to connect with Gai's longing for independence. I think we can both agree that it was a great manga tho. Easily my favorite by FKMT.

>>154559382
Solid manga.

>>154559382
>Lol
Fuck off.

>>154558667
Inspiration can come from anywhere.

>>154556926
GTO anime was better. Except for the ending

>>154558562
>anyone in punpun
>hated

>>154557798
Weakness.

>>154558667
>not indulging in fiction for the sole purpose of improving your own life
Why do you read manga, then? Are you just wasting your time?

>>154560567
You couldn't tell already from his use of ellipses?

>>154560739
Obviously, I'm living the NEET dream just

>>154556407
"Blue Giant"

>>154560567
This should be bannable.

>>154556407
Patrician.

>>154557798
As long as you accept and is happy with who you are, maturity, honestly.

>>154560739
Not him but literally everything you do in your life can be considered a waste o time. What we do, we do to kill time and to give a momentary or lasting purpose to our existence, nothing more.

Anyway, the main purpose of manga or any sort of entertainment product is to be enjoyable. If being deep or having some grand meaning is something that's enjoyable for you, that's on you, but don't try to force the idea that you read manga for self-improvement. If improving yourself was all that you were seeking, then I can assure you that you would never bother to waste your time with manga or anime.

>>154564981
>If improving yourself was all that you were seeking, then I can assure you that you would never bother to waste your time with manga or anime.
Or posting on /a/ but that's a given

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This manga right here. Read it right after high school.

>>154565225
I'm still not sure if I understand the ending.

>>154563667
It is.

I can't pick out specific pages, but both Molester Man and Koe no Katachi had a pretty significant impact on me.
Highly recommend reading them if you haven't yet.

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Call it cringe if you want, but this manga seriously changed the way I see life.

>>154558667
>>154565003
Self-loathing is generally a bad character-trait and you (guys) must abandon it if you want to be happy.

>>154567423
Molester Man is one thing even if it's overrated, but Koe no Katachi is fucking shit. Is the mere mention of bullying enough to have an impact on you, or what?

>>154567632
That's not a lie though nor am I self loathing. If I really was devoting myself to self improvement I would drop posting on this site and a number of other forums. There are better ways to spent my time but since I choose not to here I am.

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>>154567794
Here we are together for a split second in cyberspace.

For the reasons you and I have both mentioned, I usually don't even post on this board. I lurk it to get NEETs' opinions on what good anime/manga I might be interested in watching/reading.

It is because of this board-culture's self-loathing and lack of self-improvement that I tend to stay away from you anons.

I love/hate you guys so much it hurts.

Back to lurking, goodbye.

>>154567915
Next time you make your annual post, please don't double-space everything.

>>154567915
>For the reasons you and I have both mentioned, I usually don't even post on this board. I lurk it to get NEETs' opinions on what good anime/manga I might be interested in watching/reading.
>It is because of this board-culture's self-loathing and lack of self-improvement that I tend to stay away from you anons.

Jesus Christ, I want to strangle you so badly.

>>154567794
Interacting with people, especially in such a site with so many eccentric posts such as 4chan can actually be good for you, just need to know how to filter all the memes and useless nonsense.

Also, it can help you to improve your arguing skills, given that you argue a lot here.

>>154567942
especially in a site with so many eccentric posts like 4chan*

>>154567915
>It is because of this board-culture's self-loathing and lack of self-improvement that I tend to stay away from you anons.
You have completely missed the point of the posting chain and are projecting some stuff into this that wasn't present. The original phrase of

>If improving yourself was all that you were seeking, then I can assure you that you would never bother to waste your time with manga or anime.

Is what that anon says. I respond by saying that someone trying to really improve themselves would distance themselves from this site since it is a time sink. Sure there are moments of creativity when anons get together and create something more than excellent threads. But those moments haven't happened in recent years. I don't hate coming here and I don't hate anime, but I recognize that if I wanted to improve upon the things in my life that I really want too I need to spend my time better.

Instead of waxing philosophical listen to what people tell you for once.

>>154567942
>Interacting with people, especially in such a site with so many eccentric posts
You're not wrong, this site has a lot of ecclectic persons browsing it. But spending time here just to brush up my argumentative skills isn't going to do much if I don't go somewhere else to apply it.

>>154568033
Like most things in life, it's a matter of balance. We don't need to stop posting on 4chan or watching anime in order to improve ourselves, however, doing nothing but watching anime and posting on 4chan won't do much for us in terms of self-improvement, it's the excess and lack of variation that's the problem, not 4chan or anime themselves.

Anyway, what people have to understand is that you don't need to always search for something that will be of practical use for you in everything you do. Doing something just because it's enjoyable is reason enough to do It. Enjoying life and doing things that we like is just as important as improving ourselves, especially because most of the time we will choose to improve ourselves in areas that are enjoyable to us anyway.

The thing is that people always try to validate their life choices, they want to justify and give importance to what they do, so they say retarded bullshit like the sole purpose of fiction being self-improvement. Even the way this sentence is spelled sounds stupid, the person wants nothing but to improve and to do that It chooses to consume fucking fiction of all things.

>>154556407
Battle Angel Alita
Hotel
Early One Piece
Berserk
Veritas

The World is Mine
Kokou no Hito

>>154565757
What was there to not understand?

>>154565225
Name?

>>154571980
>asking for sauce on /a/
you fucking homunculus

Aku no Hana, Punpun and Ai-ren all helped me see the world through another perspective and come to terms with my anti-social self-loathing personality.

>>154572040
Thanks.

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Berserk because I'm in love with the idea of struggling. [blog] As a former procrastinator I'm obviously no Guts, but I aim to develop a willpower like his and to cherish the very process of struggling rather than the results it brings, and channel this sort of primal anger Guts has into my efforts. Also I started lifting because of it [/blog]

tl;dr: i really want to fuck some shit up

Please save my earth
Hana yori dango
Tokyo Babylon

Disclaimer, these are impactful from a teen in the 90s, the old man in TB messed me up for days

More recently,
Real
Drunken dreams and other stories
Drifting classroom

And others I can't think of right now cuz I'm knee deep in snow

>>154567703
I was the bully

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not manga, but this VN

>>154568808
>We don't need to stop posting on 4chan or watching anime in order to improve ourselves,
I would disagree and in my life when I hit times where I actually want to get things accomplished the first thing I usually drop are video games, manga/anime, and any reading not associated with my current goal. I've just found that cutting these things out completely is better than trying to shoehorn them in around work schedules and personal study. You might be different but that's what's great about the human experience; it's different for everyone and there is no one correct answer.

Now if you will remember there are two people you replied too, the "no anime" guy and me the "drop posting on 4chan" guy. You can argue that people need a little relaxation in their life but anything you can get from this site can also be gained by interacting with other people as well. Why spend my time talking with anons when I have friends I can hang out with and goof off with instead? And isn't it more meaningful to develop the bonds I have with actual people I know and interact with than focusing on this ephemeral board culture? Aside from arguing what actual benefit do I get from this site in your words?

>>154556675
this

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>>154567472
>Call it cringe if you want
Berserk is never cringe. There's good advice and lessons in it; and about not only specifically being a man but also just a better person in general. 10/10 answer.
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>>154556407
>>154573755
>but anything you can get from this site can also be gained by interacting with other people as well. Why spend my time talking with anons when I have friends I can hang out with and goof off with instead? And isn't it more meaningful to develop the bonds I have with actual people I know and interact with than focusing on this ephemeral board culture? Aside from arguing what actual benefit do I get from this site in your words?
Not the guy you're replying to but nope sorry, there are only things I can get from places like /sci/, /fit/, /his/, etc. that I can't get from people in real life. Part of the reason I even started reading manga (even reading in general, the internet, playing vidya and having the hobbies I do) is because I liked learning but hated the school system and the "bluepill" as it were, mediocre learning, outlooks on life and views, both it and real life were giving me. I viewed and used manga/other hobbies as valuable self improvement tools and still very much hold them in the same regard, on top of being things I enjoy. Also, just spitballing here and not to take away from the explanation you've given, but perhaps another reason you do
>I would disagree and in my life when I hit times where I actually want to get things accomplished the first thing I usually drop are video games, manga/anime, and any reading not associated with my current goal.
;is because you don't really view anime/video games/that reading as "self-improvement" or at least not in the same way, or in the same league, as the things you want to accomplish, work or your study. Perhaps if you looked at anime, manga, or even the things you like to do, but put aside, differently you'd come to see them as more valuable? But either way it is like you said, different strokes for different folks. I've been able to accomplish things in life and still make time to read anime and game while doing so.

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>>154556675
fpbp

>>154558932
Punpun unironically made me embrace myself as a shitty person who will always be shitty. Good manga.

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>>154564918
Are you me?

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>>154556407

>>154556407
Trigun Maximum, since the MC actually pays for what he believes and is actually forced to momentarly abandon his belief to save human lives.

Also Saiyuki from Kazuya Minekura can hit hard, from time to time.

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>>154575616

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>>154556407
Sakuranbo Syndrome taught me how girls think.
Not a good feeling

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I know that not talking to others when I need to is my biggest problem but I still haven't been able to get over it. I've been without friends for years and going back to school has been hard for me when so much of the work is difficult to do alone.

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>>154575738
I also discovered how women think, but I did it reading a lot of shojo of female authors.
I understood a lot of things and made me felt alone.

>>154576326
Feel*

>>154567915
This is 4chan, with the exception of /b/, wallpaper, and a handful of other boards we're all fucked up in some perpetual way. Most of us feel some sort of self-loathing or have been warped by some way in the hell that is this site. Everyone wants to improve but no one has the motivation, I could be lifting right now or walking my dog, instead I'm here, about to read that mountain climbing manga.

>>154571972
I understand what happens in the story but not sure if I get the MCs final development.

Like is he just happy to see himself in everyone or is there a deeper meaning? Also is it just a visual representation or is it that he just sees his face in everyone else now?

>>154576582
>instead I'm here, about to read that mountain climbing manga.
What's wrong with counting this as a method of self-improvement as well? And it's not like you can't still do those things or even do them all.

>>154577206
>What's wrong with counting this as a method of self-improvement as well?
Not that guy but maybe it's just a story to him and not some profound experience. And there is a limit to how many things you can do at once and how much focus you can give concurrent activities. If he takes his dog out for a walk he can read sure, but lifting and reading is not recommended.

Sometimes you need to stop watching Anima to get stuff done.

>>154567472
Dude, you are not alone.

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No, really.

>>154579093
Cockblock - The Manga

>>154578383
>And there is a limit to how many things you can do at once and how much focus you can give concurrent activities. If he takes his dog out for a walk he can read sure, but lifting and reading is not recommended.
>Sometimes you need to stop watching Anima to get stuff done.
Wasn't arguing those. By "do them all" I meant either do them before of after but still get to do walk, his dog, lift and read. depending on how much time it talks him to walk or lift; he could take his dog out then come back and lift and after or later in the day, read like he would any other book. If those two thing are two long, fine, read another day. My main points, abit like I posted >>154575225 for that anon is that he also seems to view reading Kokou no Hito as "something I'll do 'Instead' of something else, both of which are more worth my time and will improve myself while reaading manga will not" rather than "something that I could find value in on top being something I enjoy that I can do after I'm done and that's no different than a book". And on top of that notion, whenever things like reading anime or doing anything you enjoy comes up in discussions about self-improvement, it's like it's always an either or scenario or you have to give up things you like doing entirely, because enjoying things.finding value/in an educating your self somehow isn't self-improvement/ Manga/anime doesn't have to be some profound experience for you to get something out of it or use it as tool, like any other for improving your life. It certainly always hasn't been an "experience" for me but I've still regard it as valuable as any self improvement tool and gotten things out of manga that weren't super profound. Again different strokes for different folks I guess. And maybe it's because manga/anime has been instrumental to me and I've been doing it aonglside "self-improvement" that I don't have that kind of a hangup about it