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>tfw too sexy to be canon
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how much of a failure will they be?
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>>154483641
18 will be the first to lose her donut virginity
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>tfw nearly every fake screenshot of DBS is just the indicated villain standing with Goku or someone else
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LEAVE FATHER TO ME!
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Reminder

>Lorax is called "Toppo" from "pot"
>Ayy is called "Jiren" from "range"

>Pride Troopers names come from items used to cook up vegetables because they will tear the saiyans apart

>Toppo also comes from "Rosso di Toppo" wine because Lorax will become Hakaishin at the end of the arc
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>>154483762
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BLACK GETTING BTFO
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>>154483641
Nowhere near as bad as Gohan.

One of them is gonna win though.
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>>154483967
This almost looks like one of dicktasty's pics.
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>Calvados
>Whiskey
>Mojito
>Marguerite
>Wine
>Sherry
>Cosmopolitan
>Tequila
>Arak
>Champagne
>Beer
>Liqueur
>Cider
>Rum
>Vermouth
>Gin
>Rosso di Toppo
>Rosé wine
>still at least 8 alcoholic drinks more (9 if they reveal Grand Priest name)

reminder that Toriyama is alcoholic
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>>154484016
dicasty wished he was that good

it's probably from Pixiv
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>>154484087
I like to think it's more to indicate how 'hard' and serious they are, they're the be-all end-all so they get a more adult food theme
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>>154484087
>Arak
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>>154484146
I mean the random shit going on, not the quality of the drawing.
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>>154484216
Arak don't shiv

Arak don't fuck around with food and warrior races and PETTY BULLSHIT

Arak got a job and it's a job that gets done right
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>>154484216
Yeah, arak/araq. What's wrong?
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>>154484288
It's haram, that's what's wrong.
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>>154483967
just looks like Black has Giant arms now
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>>154484360
>Black comes back
>He still has one giant arm
>Huffily expresses he got attached to it fuck off little hand ningen
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>>154484360
Black can fuck off with his big, meaty claws.
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>>154484288
Arak means Alcoholic drink in Arabic, not a type of alcoholic drink
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>>154484475
Arak doesn't mean alcoholic drink in Arabic, it is an alcoholic drink, and it's shit too.
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Is this guy retarded? >>154484475
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>>154484475
So he's the strongest God of Destruction?
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>>154484574
No, it's you
>>154484581
Maybe
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Reminder that Goku's name is "Gokou"
Beerus is "Beers"
Buu is "Boo"
Mr. Satan real name is "Mark"
17 and 18 names are "Lapis" and "Lazuli"
and nobody knows Turtle Hermit's name, same about his sister
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>>154484614
Who are the four top performers again? Gills, frogdemon, who were the other two?

Then again I'll bet hard cash that they're not actually the strongest GoDs, just the ones who actually think and do their job with intelligence.
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>>154484725
Arak, Liquir, Iwen and Geen are the best ones
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>>154483967
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>>154484788
Wait right one was Notfox, Liquir, who was the 4th again like what were they
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>>154484725
Gills, frogdemon, Kuriboh and Swiper.
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>>154484832
RIGHT. SHAGGY. Gills, Notfox, Shaggy, and Furrybait. Shit man. No way Shaggy is stronger than Beerus, but he's clearly more motivated and smart.
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>>154484955
Uh, rather, Gills, Shaggy, Notgox, and Froggo. Shit I'm drunk which is eerily appropriate
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>>154484955
It isn't about strength anyway. It's about a willingness to co-operate with the Kaioshin that is your counterpart.

And both the Kaioshin and the God of Destruction need to be motivated and capable of doing their jobs. Beerus slept and let idiots like Frieza do his destruction shit for him while he slept, while he should've wiped Frieza, Cell, Buu, etc. out.

The Kaioshin is a newbie, so he can be sort of excused. He was just tossed into the role because of something awful that had happened, but he too did a lousy job and should've done more uplift mortals in U7, but like Beerus said: he felt it wouldn't be worth it if the mortals couldn't do it on their own.

Probably, what Old Kai did with Gohan is probably more along the lines of the guidance and assistance a Kaioshin should give to mortals.
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>>154485238
Oh yeah, and Beerus destroyed entire planets willy-nilly based on whether the food there was good or not. Obviously not really what he should be doing.
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WHERE'S THE LEAKS
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>>154485238
Oh yeah. For sure, by necessity of plot and sense, U7 has to be 'weird' and 'exceptional'. Or just even lucky because of 7.
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Where is the episode?
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>>154485743
What I wonder is whether Beerus and Shin will change their tune now.

They now know the consequences of doing such a shitty job, and Beerus in general seems to have changed since he met Goku. Beerus and Shin are also finally communicating (which honestly I enjoy)

I mean, we don't know if that stuff will even be covered by Super, but you'd imagine that after the tournament, they'd logically get their asses in gear to raise that mortal level.
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>>154485476
>>154485943
Don't share this with the others
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>>154486027
Joke's on you, I wasn't breathing on all before I saw that picture, so you actually saved my life.
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>>154486027
I don't even know why but that shit doesn't work for me since... years maybe? Strange but convenient
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>>154486161
Joke is on you I foresaw this and posted it to help you live. You are necessary for the world to survive
checky m8m8
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>>154484475
>what is khamar
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>>154486366
Well, you're a cheeky little cuntmonkey, i'll tell you that much, m8.
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>>154484667
>Beerus is "Beers"
>name was originally in reference to Virus, with the German pronunciation

Neck yourself.
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Is he, dare I say, /our kai/?
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Reminder that Toppo will become a Future GoD after this Arc ultimately replacing the Clown GoD of U11.
Reminder that he is also named after an alcoholic drink much like the other GoD's names.
http://www.borgoditoppo.it/en/products/the-wine-and-the-cellar.html
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>>154486840
>after this Arc

This is the last arc of Super.
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>>154486817
I want to see King Kai fight.
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>>154486884
Source: your ass
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>>154486817
Oh!
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>>154486884
>This is the last arc of Super.
Nope (raughs)
you are here forever.
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>>154486817
No. Shin is best.
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>>154486934
good
Don't die on us
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>>154487110
>cuckchi
fits
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>>154486780
Beerus was supposed to be named after virus. Beerus was supposed to be evil. Beerus was supposed to be a lizard. Beerus was supposed to be a lot of things which doesn't care since Toriyama changed him so now he's a neutral cat with a name based on an alcoholic drink as every other GoD. Deal with it.
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>>154487146
But the name stayed the same. It's still pronounced and enunciated the same. His name isn't Beers, it's Birisu - which romanizes to Beerus.
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>>154487064
If that happens they can always wish him back with the dragon balls
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>>154484563

I think it means an alcoholic drink in Arabic, and it's a type of Alcoholic drink too. It's similar to Raki and Ouzo, It tastes like black licorice.
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>>154487211
Bi ru su, not Bi ri su
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>>154487447
this is so weird
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>>154487499
I know

Like, Goku? no fucking way he's married to punchin' and that's goddamn canon
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>>154486884
>Source: my ass xD
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>>154487211
>But the name stayed the same.
Yes, ビルス still ビルス, it never changed, but ビルス's romanization was decided to be "Beers". We doesn't know if they thought in another one based on "virus" before Toriyama changed the character, but it doesn't matter.
Doesn't matter the original intention if it was totally removed, you can think about it as some kind of "in-development retcon". Is U7 God of Destruction name based on virus? No currently, forget it, he's based on beers, otherwise isn't true.

Imagine if ヘレス was supposed to be actually named after "helles", but they changed of mind during development and did his name based on spanish sherry jerez (deciding "Jerez" as the spelling). Do you would say the current spelling is "Helles" because works with ヘレス as well and it was their original intention? No, if they want beers instead virus, the name is "Beers". If they want sherry instead helles, the name is "Jerez". It's that simple, they choose it, not us.

(3rd time I post this shit because I'm retarded sorry for that)
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>>154487447
If you're gonna make cringy pairing shit, at least make it erotic so I can wank it over it.
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>>154486027
I actually am, I'm doing breathing exercises when browsing /a/
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>>154487897
>but they changed of mind during development and did his name based
I mean "her name"
what the fuck is wrong with me today
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WHY MUST WOMEN ALWAYS RUIN THINGS
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>>154487897
Except he's not named Beers in anything except a mistranslated announcement. Fuck off retard.
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>>154484087
Amaretto!
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=coFb8mjFnN8
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>>154488153
Fucking women. Can't live with them, can't live without them.
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>>154488209
Female Angel called Amare.
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Sub when
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>>154489310
Dub when?
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>>154487110
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>>154488163
>it's mistranslated because isn't the spelling we use!
OK anon you can leave now, enjoy "Beerus, "Buu", "Krillin" and others.
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>no angel named after "sake" yet
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>>154489396
>enjoy the superior names
Umm okay.. We will?
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>>154489396
Then why do they call him "Beerus" in the show instead of saying "Beers"? They CLEARLY say "Beerus" everytime, NO character EVER said "Beers" in any of the movies, anime or games.
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>>154483641
everyone below gohan will job hard
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>>154489432
Please tell this is bait
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Wheres Ep 82? Is there no new episode this week?
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>>154489499
DBS got cancelled :/
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>>154489511
oh, too bad
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>>154489490
But anon, there's no one below Gohan.
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>>154489511
>DBS got cancelled :/
Thank you God.
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>>154489496
It's not bait, because while you can make a case for "Kuririn" and "Zamas" (Gowasu and Trunks for example pronounce it more like Zamas than Zamasu), there is no way you can spell "Beers" with Beerus' japanese name.
And yes, I know Japanese names don't work too well with english spellings and pronounciation, I'm not stupid, but no character pronounces it "Beers", they all pronounce it "Beerus", no exception. Also, in literally all localisations of the name except the meme one you keep posting, his name is fucking "Beerus", deal with it you autist.
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IT'S VILTH NOT BEERS, BEERUS OR BILLS
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When does Super get good? Last night's episode which was supposed to be Goku vs Beerus, had barely any fighting and a ton of stupid filler like Pilaf and King Kai.
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when is bills going to kill gokou?
gokou is so reatarded like come on man
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>>154489846
Neither movie retellings are any good compared to the movies themselves. The stuff before the RoF arc is good, though, as it shows their training with Whis.

Universe 6 tournament is so-so but at least something new.

And the Goku Black arc is overrated but okay.
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>>154489831
This man is correct - ironically more correct than the people arguing about how Vilth's name is meant to be pronounced or spelled even if he's trying to shove a fork into things.
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>>154489831
supreme smug
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And they keep changing things from the movie, wtf?
In the movie, Goku was upset that he needed a crutch to match Beerus. He wasn't enjoying the fight and only did it to protect the Earth
In the show, he's a carefree idiot who's happy and just having fun. Beerus mentoring him and learning about his and Vegeta's personality was one of the best parts of the movie
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>>154489846
Watch the movies, then the couple episodes of Super between the movie retellings, then pick back up after the RoF arc.
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>dubfags
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>>154489932
>non-japanese speaking weeaboos
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I hope the crappy episodes aren't scaring dubbies off of Super. Reddit is positive but reddit praises everything.
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>>154489970
Dubbies gets the patched up Bluray editions which has redrawings.
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>>154489944
>Americans
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>>154489970
who cares if they're getting scared off, that just makes them casuals
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>>154489970
Nah, I'm a DBE (Dragon Ball Enthusiast). But these retelling are weak.
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>>154489921
>freezy are you ok
>that look like it hurts
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>>154489982
They only patched up episode 5 and some RoF episodes. last night's episode looked as terrible as it did originally.
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>>154489999
delet these 9s
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>>154489970
>Reddit is positive but reddit praises everything.

Oh really?
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>>154489999
>those quads
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>Goku may be stronger than Beerus right now
>Goku vs fake Monaka was heavily favoured for Goku
>The costume didn't slow Beerus down that much yet he was obviously losing to base Goku
>if Vegito fought Goku (hypothetically) any fan would agree the fight would end in a few seconds with or without handicaps
>I think Goku surpassed Beerus' maximum power when Goku achieved SSB+kaioken
>based on Vegeta's performance against Black we can assume that Vegeta has a stronger SSB than Goku
>Goku may be able to beat Vegeta using kaioken and teleportation but endurance would favour Vegeta
>I think if Goku fought Vegeta full force right now the fight will end similar to their first fight with Goku overpowering Vegeta throughout the beginning and ending with Vegeta winning by endurance
>Hit vs Vegeta would be an interesting fight but I doubt we will get it
>I think Vegeta would defeat Hit due to Vegeta's immense speed and power in SSB which exceeds even Rose Black
>I honestly think Black would have taken down Hit with high difficulty

fight me
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It's really annoying. Everybody knows that U7 beat U6 in the last tournament, yet U6 ranked higher than U7. Even Beerus is more powerful than Champa.

Not to mention Zeno sama saw that too.
>Toei fucked up as usual
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>>154490086
this post will never not make me laugh
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>>154490086
You're right ビルス's name is Beers, リキール's name is obviously Liquor, Smugpup is part of the U11 pride troopers, Femme Broly is fighting for Universe 6, and Goku Black was Goten all along.

Thanks for enlightening me.
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>>154483641
I'm hoping for some fun banter with Krillin atleast.
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did the stream already start? Someone give me link
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>>154489490
So nobody, thank god
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>>154490292
You missed the Women's marathon, Bahrainian women named E. Kilva aka Gokuette Black came in 1st place, first time runner Android #108 came in 2nd for Japan, and past Japanese Olympic competitor Universe 9 came in third place.
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>>154490383
Nagoya then proceeded to explode in exactly 5 minutes.
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>>154483641
>significantly above galactic conqueror level
>infinite fucking energy

If Gohan's worth his salt these two will provide what is essentially a safe space for the team.

>front line does front line things
>the androids play backup/defence line
>support/recovery in the back

Front line can now cycle between the front lines and the recovery area with impunity, covered entirely by the other front liners and the INFINITE FUCKING BEAM SPAM COVER.

>they're not going to be this clever and we'll lose 90% of U7 because of it
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>>154490421
>Gohan
>worth
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>>154490421
At least half of U7 will be lost before Gohan stops being indecisive and does anything useful - and only after Vegeta gets fed up of his shit, and Piccolo is removed from the competition to make Gohan realize how much of a fucking cuck he's being.

Everyone will still congratulate him on a job well done after the match is over.
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>>154489595
His name isn't "beers" word, is BASED on the word, you moron. How dense you are if you don't understand something that simple? They spell the name without the extended ビ (ー), which can be interpreted as literally "virus" or a word based on altering "beers" word. You're just complaining because during development Toriyama understood "bi-ru-su" as an altered version of "beer" word instead being the literal "virus" word and when the final product arrived this interpretation became a thing and "virus" was retconned out of the existence.
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>>154490479
What does that have anything to do with what I said? Yes, Beerus is based on the word Beer for the pun but it was also based on Virus, but that doesn't change any of my point.
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>>154490524
>>154490479
VILTH
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Where the fuck is episode 82
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>>154490710
>IBO came out
>still no episode 82
What THE FUCK???
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>>154490864
>no scars
Fucking Toei.
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>>154490524
>is based on the word Beer for the pun
And the name is spelled "Beers", regardless how anyone would pronounce the name. I don't even know why the fuck you still pretending you can chance the fact that they want the name to being spelled "Beers" and gaijin localizations means nothing
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>>154491039
Your image is the only time it has been translated as Beers. Honestly you might want to kill yourself, your autism might be dangerous for humanity.
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>>154490620
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>>154490620
>>154491118

Hey gais do you like my original character SMUNKS. He is a time and universe travelling hero and is part of the Faggot Patrol who goes through universes and time back to when Trunks appears to warn that Goku is going to die of a Heart Beerus but then he warns everyone that Goku is a massive fight autist and a faggot, then kills Trunks for trying to fuck with time and potentially dooming several multiverses and then Shu from the Pilaf gang falls in love with him.

I think this story is deep. What do you think?
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>>154491186

>Smunks
>Faggot Patrol
>Shu falls in love with him

Love it 10/10 better written story and character than Trunks.
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>>154483559
What's the latest crazy on Heroes?
Super Saiyan 4 Raditz?
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>>154491372
I think Jiren being the newest boss fight is right now.
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>>154483559
reminder that Demigra is the Makaioshin of Universe 7's demon realm
>has pointy ears and looks like a shinji
>wears potara
>is referred as a ''demon god''
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>>154484087
>Grand Priest's name is just a pun on the word ''alcohol''
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>>154488153
>shitting on the women marathon filler episode

Do you hate fun?
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>>154488153
it's not the first time DBS skips a week for some sport event, calm your tits neckbeard
it's gonna be even worse when the Tokyo olympics happen, assuming Super will even still be airing by then
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>>154491552
I still remember Arc-V and the pingpong dimension
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>>154489970
>>154490037
I blame the weekly schedule that for whatever dumb reason Funimation is using
Mario here, the Italian dub ran daily and as a result normies liked Super much more and the retelling flowed much better
Honestly Super only feels ''slow'' because of the schedule, you gotta wonder how it must have felt when DBZ first premiered
>a whole fucking year before Majin Buu even showed up
Still waiting for more Italian dubbed episodes btw
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>>154491565
Why doesn't FujiTV make a seperate channel for sports and shit like any other fucking country?
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>>154491372
Dimps just couldn't wait and introduced us to Captain Ayy Lmao and his actual name, Jiren
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZWXF_yzi60
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>>154491795
Ayy Lmao in XV2 when?
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>>154486817
You think he could have gotten a promotion if they hadn't found Old Kai in the Z-Sword?
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>>154486817
Why does he wear a hat with antennae?
Is he autistic?
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>>154491795
This proves Goku and Trunks were working with the villains all along to bring down the hero of justice Jiren.
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>>154491944
Isn't he some kind of cricket-man?
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Imagine if toriyama actually died lads
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>>154492030
no, he's a shinji just like Shin, Zamasu, Gowasu, Kibito etc...
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>>154492008
KAKAROT
KAKAROOOT
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>>154492056
imagine if miura died
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>>154492056
then Toyotaro would fully take over
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>>154492066
a what?
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>>154492073
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>Toei
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>>154492136
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>>154492096
The Kais and Kaioshin are all the Shinjin race
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>>154492131
>DOUBLE
>INAZUMAAAAA
>KIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIICK
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>>154492176
kek
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>>154491186
>Heart Beerus
How does dying to a Heart Beerus feel like?
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>>154492155
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>the fight is a battle royale
>goten and trunks are not in the team

Why?
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>>154492315

Because their neck bombs were detonated early and they're now lying dead somewhere on a classroom floor.
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>>154492390
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>>154491795
Cant stop mirin the jiren
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>>154492390
Why is Doc Brown attacking Goku?
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>FOOOOOAR GOOHAAAAN
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>>154492056
Then Toyotaro calls the shots and Toei can do whatever.

This shit will keep going on and Toriyama realizes that. He just really cruises along for the ride and money at this point
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Is it /tracing/ time?
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>>154492489
I can't say I wouldn't do the same in his position. Write some ideas on a napkin, adjust some corny jokes and rake in the merchadising dosh.
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>>154492096
http://dragonball.wikia.com/wiki/Shinjin
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>>154483832
You mock them, but I honestly think it's great that Pidgeotto got a job after all these years.
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>>154492494
>memebound
>when h.r. giger and lovecraft were already doing this kind of thing decades before

come on sempai, step it up.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=90W815shX4c
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>>154492652
Legacy of Goku 4 when?
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>>154492652
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l1rxjDA0aXs
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This thread is missing autism from the ultradragonball wiki.
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>>154492747
Fuck off, Lava Goku. We know it's you.
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>Episode 81
>The wolf is angry at goku
>Calls him out
>He gives no shit

HAHAHA.
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>>154492155
Why do manga toyocucks get so fanny-flustered over SSB Kaioken?

I swear "why doesn't Goku use kaioken anymore" was one of the most common complaints for over a decade.
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>>154491795
The spoiler summaries revealed his name before DBS though. It looks like the original cut of episode 82 had Jiren fighting Goku instead of Toppa.

>>154491970
In Dragon Ball, villains always have more interesting powers. Hopefully, Goku's Super Saiyan Demon lets him use more erotic powers.
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>>154492494
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>>154492901
it's the Hollywood Goku era
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>>154492942
>more erotic powers

What is Goku just going to take his pants off and slap people in the face with his dick and call it the Kaiocock?
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>>154493157
That sounds amazing! Goku is already based, and would make him even better.
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>>154483641

They're likely stronger than Gohan is right now.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i3D47dibOQU
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>>154493157
Daily reminder Goku's dick thrust could destroy the sun.
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>>154493362
CummayHummay-ha
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>>154493254
what?
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>>154493454
Dodoria's noble sacrifice awakened the rage in Frieza's heart and turned him into Super Frieza
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>>154491077
There's actually two, have you an extra chromosome or something? >>154484667 >>154487146 Also three with pic related.

Anyway, do you have one with "Beerus"? Not localization but actual japanese media, merchandising, promotional shit, etc, directly showing "Beerus" as his name (so no URLs or stuff like that). What about just accept your "mistranslated" theory is wrong and they actually want Beers as his name? Just stop pushing your beloved dub spelling.
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>>154492066
Yeah but his design is based on a cockroach
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>>154493254
Dodoria's death made him so sad that he lost his gains.
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>>154493569
Do you mean Super [Freeza clan]?
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>>154493670
You are aware that anyone arguing about how the Japanese decide to name or merchandise their "English" name is up to them is completely stupid right.

ビルス can be any of the following depending on how the hell whatever company feels like slapping on the box:

Bils
Vils
Bills
Vills
Vilth
Bilth
Virus
Birus
Virusu
Birisu
Viruth
Biruth
Beerusu
Beerus
Beers
Beeroos
Berus
Verus
Veels
Beels

The only stupid thing when getting pissed off at how they decide to name that character and mind you that's friggin Banpresto's model and they have a horrible habit of doing whatever the fuck they want with the Romanization of katakana (for instance I have a very old banpresto DBZ card that says BEJITA SUPER SAIYAJIN 2"
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>>154493937
>Veels vs Super Sayajin Fajita 2
Battle of the centruy!
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>>154491623
No it feels slow because it's an inferior version of a movie that everyone already saw.
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>>154492922
It wasn't a complaint, everyone except idiots knew it was because SSJ trumped it.
The complaint is always why Goku doesn't teach it to others.
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>>154487447
No she belongs to cabba!!
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>>154491623
thankfully Z aired four times a week in chunks of 50 episodes or so at a time, so the show didn't feel as slow paced
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How much you wanna bet the whole "Zamasu is becoming the universe" thing is Toei
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>>154494079
Why don't Piccolo, Tien, Yamcha and Chiaotzu already know it after training with King Kai? Did he teach them ANYTHING?
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>>154494118
desu i think the whole limited time potara thing is just toei and they'll go into gogeta for the manga
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>>154494118
The part where he leaks into the present time line is definitely Toei. That made no sense.
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>>154494124
>King Kai! Can you teach us...
>NO!
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>>154493937
If I knew where all my old toys from when I used to live in Hong Kong and Japan were kept I'd scan it in. Right now it's just part of my memory from over 2 decades ago when it was airing live and my friend bought me a DBZ card set. I remember quite clearly the cards I got out of the pack was "17号", "PERFECT CELL", "SUPER SAIYAJIN 2 BEJITA" and "GOTRUNKS" (yes they really did fuck up Gotenks).

It's lost somewhere in this house along with a bunch of SD Gundam models and working miniature model F1 racing cars built from plastic kits because that used to be the rage 20 years ago in Japan.
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>>154492715
This was really well done.
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>>154494124
Well, if you believe the filler, they did manage to take on the Ginyu force which Goku couldn't have done after King Kai training alone
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>>154494118
Merged Zamasu's bio Broly looking appearance is also probably Toei's way of showing battle damage since with their current timeshot they can't show anything too gory.
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>>154494321
Wait no they wrote it as Gotunks, not Gotrunks and it was him making the double backwards V victory pose on the card. Which I found humorous because in the west, particularly England that's like telling someone to go fuck themselves.
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>>154494321
>>154494398

I take it you watched DBZ before it was localized in the US then?
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>>154493937
>ビルス can be any of the following depending on how the hell whatever company feels like slapping on the box
Except they just use "Beers", not a lot of different names every time, just the name used for the official guide book from the movie. Someitmes they use different spellings for Freeza (and other characters) as well but they still using the accurate one most of time, just sperg "it may be wrong so is wrong" will not help you. Do you want to keep with your mistranslated theory? Use actual argument then, not "the name they use may be wrong so it's wrong and gaijin name is the right one".
It's amazing how autist you can go with mere assumptions because you can't deal with the way you are used to being inaccurate. ビルス is romanized as "Beers" in Japan, do you think is just mistranslation (every time) and the west name is the right one? Prove it or fuck off already, that's all.

>I have a very old banpresto
>very old
Well looks like isn't that way anymore
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Reminder that Shin x Beerus is the best ship
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>>154494954
Do you mean Shin x Anat?
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>>154494118
What other reason would Goku press the Zeno button to make him come?
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I read through the last thread and I can't believe that some people don't know that super saiyan is a BASE FORM MULTIPLIER. Trunks in ss2 can be as powerful as Goku in ss3 if his base form is stronger than Goku's. In the manga Trunks states that he's been training for 10 years "Like his life depended on it" so possibly even harder than Vegeta pre Buu saga. Goku's a slacker that relies on multipliers to get stronger. Fuck Goku, Trunks is the better Saiyan.
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>>154494118
Toriyama's outline: The final battle of the arc encompasses the entire Universe

Toei: Zamasu randomly gets the power to merge with the Universe because our shitty schedule won't allow us to animate a battle of that scale (see Super Shenron's first appearance or Beerus vs Champa)

Toyotaro: The battle between the main characters and Zamasu is on some Tengen toppa gurren lagann vs Anti spiral type shit
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>>154491186
>Shu from the Pilaf gang falls in love with him
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>>154494718
Kindof yes, it was when the Majin Buu saga was close to reaching its conclusion - Dragon Ball Z was friggin huge in Asia.

My family moved to England shortly before it ended so I never got to watch the end of DBZ until it was localized, and because Internet wasn't a thing until around 1997 and from that, watching or downloading shows / movies wasn't a thing until much much later because 56k dialup,

(This was the same for Sailor Moon Super S and Sailor Stars, I never got to watch them until internet evolved far enough - yes I watched Sailor Moon as a kid)

DBZ as a kid is how my drawing style came close to resembling toriyama's I guess. You guys probably know me better as Smugpupfag.

Fun fact: Holding your index and middle finger in the V position backwards towards people in England is seen as an insult to tell the French to go fuck themselves because you still had 2 fingers to fire arrows at them.

The gotenks card pictured here isn't the same one as I had, the artwork was better for one. despite being older.

>>154494904
You're literally arguing with someone who reads Japanese as some kindof foreigner who's pretending to know what he's talking about. I just... whatever I'm used to it by now. Just go, just do your thing keep believing what you do.
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Are the leaks out?
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>>154488153
It's just one week without episode, calm your tits you fucking manchild.
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>>154492761
>implying hes not the one who loves the dirt.
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>>154495126
b-but Goku blocked one punch from a Trunks recently awake from unconsciousness, that's a totally doubtless proof that Goku's base is stronger than Trunks'!
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Leave the Grand Priest to me.
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>>154495246
>The battle between the main characters and Zamasu is on some Tengen toppa gurren lagann vs Anti spiral type shit
It would be cool as fuck but will not happen
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>>154495341
Next week, anon.
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>>154495324
>>154495366
These posts were meant to be together but I uploaded the wrong image because I'm a faggot.
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>>154488153
a show about a Olympic ambassador is postponed because of a stupid race
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>>154495126
He's also the cutest saiyan.
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>>154495461
Hey fuck you. Android #108 worked really fucking hard to achieve that 2nd place and only lost out to Gokuette Black AND she was a first timer did you not see the emotion in her achievement?

She completely destroyed 3rd placer previous Olympic contestant Universe 9.
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>>154495366
How did they achieve SSJ3 so effortlessly? Why did Toriyama never let Vegeta get it?
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>>154495076
Merged Zamasu being immortal and fusion failing is more than enough to call Zeno
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>>154495555
Fusion is bullshit
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/co/ here
Did Vjump chapter leaks release yet?
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>>154495591
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>>154495126
No you fool, he raised the multiplier of SSJ2. He shows this.
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>>154495754
See
>>154495434
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>>154495808
Explain
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>>154495126
When is it stated that is a base form multiplier?
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Leave reset buttons to me.
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>>154495929
>In Daizenshuu 7 the form is said to multiply the Saiyan's power level by 50x times its normal
http://dragonball.wikia.com/wiki/Super_Saiyan
SS, SS2 and SS3 are multipliers, SSG is a base transformation(adding to the bases power) while SSB is a multiplier exclusive to SSG.
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>>154495911
When he uses SSJ2, he's tied with Goku. Then Trunks says "I was never satisfied with the power this form gave, so..."

He then proceeds to power up to near SSJ3, which means he raised the multiplier.
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>>154495911
It's his headcanon.
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>>154495126
Problem is that such a difference in power would be apparent in any form.

If this was true Goku would have commented something about that.
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>>154496204
You're an idiot. Not surprising, the majority of this fanbase are idiots.
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>>154485743
>by necessity of plot and sense, U7 has to be 'weird' and 'exceptional'

no it doesnt and no it isnt
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>>154496204
He specifically says he was disappointed in the form you dipshit. Right before powering up the form beyond it's normal output
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How brutal is he?
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>>154496185
Oh, so he basically did almost the same thing as SS second grade? just without the mass gain?
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>>154485743
It really isn't because universe with low mortal level are the majority, that much is implied.
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>>154487211
no its beers dude

lrn2jap
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>>154496302
Anat reminds me of character from somewhere else and I don't know why.
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>>154496236
>>154496273
Why do you guys act like Toriyama even thought/cares about this shit?
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>>154490064
>Goku may be stronger than Beerus right now


lol
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>>154487146
Toriyama seriously deserves some praise for taking Toei's most generic villain with the edgiest name and purpose imaginable and turning it into one of the most charming characters in the franchise.
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>>154496405
Cause it's fun.
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Reminder that power inflation in the anime makes it so anyone in the U6 roster is ritual SSJG level.
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>>154496439
Also Toei was going to retcon the Sayians into dindus who were brainwashed by beerus into being evil.
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>>154496323
Pretty much.

>>154496405
Toyotaro does, and he's the one who added the explanation from Trunks. In the anime, Trunks just gained forms just because
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Oh shit son. Toyotaro, with Toriyama's blessing, has just chosen you as his assistant and given you the assignment to write a manga about the new Trunks timeline. How do you handle it? How are the original Trunks and Mai coping with their new world? Who or what is the villain of your first arc and what is its general plot?

Keep in mind that it will be submitted to Toyotaro for approval, so while you've got tons of leeway you'll still have to keep things acceptably within Toriyama's "lore"
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Just because of the autistic anon with a stick up his ass, adamant that birusu can only be Beers and nothing but Beers. I went to the toei site to see how THEY spell it.

>Buils

OK I don't even know WHAT the fuck. No seriously even I couldn't have guessed this one.
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>>154496645
I'd tell him to scrap the idea and give me a better setting with more potential instead of terrible fanfiction fanservice material.
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>>154496231
>If this was true Goku would have commented something about that.

stupid argument

vegeta commented on it tho
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>>154496645
A spin-off manga would be pretty cool.
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>>154496649

BUILS

IT'S OFFICIAL IT'S OVER GUYS

TOEI HAS SPOKEN
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Who else is still hoping they retcon Super Saiyan God to be a vastly more powerful form than SSB, with the potential to be on the level of Beerus, but Goku ditched it and moved on before truly mastering it because he didn't like it not being power he earned himself?
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>>154496645
I'd write it in a way that it would branch into Trunks becoming Xeno trunks, thus making everything canon.
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>>154496645
Trunks has to deal with the PTSD he received from watching his mom die. Nightmares are constant and Mai has to find a way with coping with Trunks' illness. Meanwhile Bulma has to figure out why Trunks won't look at her.
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>>154496645
I'd tell Toyotaro to go fuck himself.
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>>154492056
Toriyama is 60. Going by Japanese life expectancy he'll be fine.
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>>154496302
>>154496377

Figured it out. Anat has the same facial structure and expression as many of the characters from the Sailor Moon Anime series. That's why he looks like characters I've seen before.
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>>154496816
I'm not. Its aesthetically my least favorite Super Saiyan form.
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>>154496816
its his base form now though
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Why do normies pretend to like anything DB related?
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>>154496816
I prefer what the manga does with it desu
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>>154496816
It would be if Goku trained in that form but since SSB is a multiplier it will always be "better".
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>>154496649
Nips always come up with the worst possible names. I remember one product, I think it was a DB Heroes card, that had Mai's name written as "Mye".
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Seeing as how 17 and 18 were 100 percent manmade and were on the level of super saiyans, it should be possible for bulma to upgrade them to be god level
Y/N?
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>>154496867
fucking small face freaks.
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>>154492082
Fuck you
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>>154496645
It's just Trunks and Mai fucking for 300 chapters.
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>>154496940
>Seeing as how 17 and 18 were 100 percent manmade
17 and 18 are cyborgs. They can just train to get stronger. 16 and 19 were fully robot.
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>>154496645

The villain is the person who used the Dragonballs originally to become King of Earth, eventually after decades of peace he decided to travel the galaxy getting stronger, however, upon returning home he sees how much his kingdom has fallen apart with the mass amounts of infighting or catastrophes caused by the Z warriors.
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>>154496645
The two Trunkses are like brothers to each other, the one native to the new timeline being like the younger sibling, and starts acting more childish and pushy in reaction to his new doppelganger. The Mais act like besties but are secretly constantly trying to one-up each other to impress their respective Trunks.

The immigrant Trunks, henceforth known as alien or Xeno Trunks wants to become stronger to more effectively defend his new home. Step 1: learning Instant Transmission. Trunks asks Baba to being Goku back from the dead for a day to teach him the move, but unfortunately Baba can't find Goku, he's gone missing in the afterlife. So the two Trunks go with Baba to the Other World and are given 24 hours to track him down, leading them on a wild chase across the afterlife and bringing them into contact with familiar faces, both good and bad. The villain is Gohan, who has been watching Trunks grow from the other side all along and is now helping his dad hide from them as a form of training for them both, teaching them teamwork and quick thinking to track him down before their time is up. All the old Z fighters and filler like Pikkon form obstacles for the pair to overcome on the way. At the end he and Goku fight them in a tag team match before a heartwarming goodbye as Goku goes with the Trunkses for a day to train them.

Wud u read
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>>154497035
They're trying to raise the saiyan population.
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>>154497227
No.
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>>154497275
Ok
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>>154497204
Anon, that king was literally King Furry's ancestor.

You're saying a fucking sentient dog is going to be a villain?
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>>154497227
Yes I would read but only if childish trunks has purple hair.
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>>154497329

They could just retcon it

Dog-kun could be the real king's assistant or something he left in charge and failed at his job.
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>3 hours of getting blueballed by Vegeta to get this fucking hat
Worth it
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>>154497442
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>>154497395
That ruins the subtle joke that a lowly doggo gathered the dragonballs and wished to become king of earth.
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>>154497155
19 had a brain, he was not full robot
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>>154497442
you could have installed the store mod and avoided that shit
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>>154497541
Nah, even his brain was robot
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>>154497442
>playing shit tier DB games
>>>/v/
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>>154497587
I didn't know there was one ;-;

That fight was glitchy as fuck. That blue ball attack could hit me even if I was on the other side of the arena, and sometimes after the attack was over I'd randomly take damage from it and die again
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>>154497541
19 was a prototype for 20. His body was not only designed to utilize an absorption system but outfitted with similar modules that would have allowed brain transference, hence the cranium dome.

However the dome contains a mechanical brain rather than an organic one.
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>>154497667
What's a good DB game iyo?
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>19's face after getting mugged at a 7-11 in Mexico
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>>154497677
here ya go
https://mega.nz/#!Zco0TBoJ!PulO6nsw2kVXhSQEtDrIaxwY98mldNTIfqsck6v2NDM

yeah that raid was very buggy
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Goku vs Beerus is so boring compared to the movie. Where's the intensity?
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>>154497541
Nope, his brain was a computer
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>>154497762
no budget
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>>154497744
I bet the muggers liked GT
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>>154497762
Imagine if Hero just played on loop for the entirety of the fight.
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>>154497755
Thanks anon!

>>154497795
Hero was legit
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>>154497035
I'd read it.
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>>154487233
STOP IT ! NO SEXUAL FANFICTION ABOUT DRAGONBALL
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>>154498401
>skirt/dress
Why? The worst possible thing to wear in combat.
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>>154498619
It's a retarded fanart, what did you expect?
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>>154498619
Says you.
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>>154498619
It's for 18's convenience
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>>154491460
wrong theres Mechikabura who is stronger. Towa is even stronger then demigra now
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>>154498619
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>>154498741
18 would rather let Trunks win.
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>>154498754
Can't Mechikabura give out Demon God powers like Halloween candy?
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>>154496844
That's too dank for DB, you can have murder and genocide but none of the realistic consequences or trauma you'd expect.
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>>154498826
yep thats how towa got her fancy new outfit/hairstyle
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>>154498741
Geez, It's like she's never held a sword before.
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>>154498812
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Its probably also how King vegeta is now strong enough to go against Vegeta as Mechikabura was the one that brought king vegeta back as dark masked king
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>>154498853
Yeah, since DB is for kids Trunks would probably get over his trauma after one chapter and there would still be some light-hearted/comedic moments in it.
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Anyone dislike how little they expanded on Trunks character despite his large role in the new arc?

I felt like they lost a great opportunity to give him some development.
you'd expect him to act/behave different from the time he was with the androids, black snatching the peace he fought so hard for would actually leave a mark on him but his character is the same as it was in DBZ.
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Given that SSR is the color a Saiyan takes when he's a proper god and not just a pseudo-god like Goku and Vegeta, if either of the Saiyans were elevated to GoD status, would SSB become SSR?
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>>154499257
no
ssr is exclusive to black
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>>154499257
Probably.

>>154499381
Read the manga.
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>>154499227
Same, the Zamasu arc kind of feels like filler outside of the present timeline having two Zenos the status quo didn't really change much.
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>>154499381
>ssr is exclusive to black
I haven't read the manga: the post
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>>154491460
>reminder that Demigra is the Makaioshin of Universe 7's demon realm
Every demon realm person has pointy ears, and aside from Dabura everyone seems to have the Potara-like earrings too. It seems more and more likely that every "demon" we've seen is a shinjin.
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>>154499381

>>154499227
Hopefully the manga changes that.
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>>154499227
who gives a fuck about developing trunks? there's nothing there, he's just a special snowflake and he always has been. instead they introduced two great villains, explored the deeper aspects of their characters and motivations, actually giving us something to ponder about as Zamasu wasn't blatantly evil since he thought he was doing good, and then gave us a spectacular finale even if the stupid trunks asspull was garbage.
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>>154499595
I could see Towa being one, but Dabura looks like a straight up devil more than a Shinjin. Then again he and Towa look nothing alike either. Maybe she's adopted?
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>>154499638
that isn't a confirmation, zamasu is speculating
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>>154497815
This is actually good
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DBS will end at ep 100 and continue with a sequel after a year's break.
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>>154499648
>actually giving us something to ponder about as Zamasu wasn't blatantly evil since he thought he was doing good
Zamasu was a generic paint-by-numbers JRPG villain
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>>154499648
>who gives a fuck about developing trunks?
These guys
>>154499227
>>154499542
>>154499638


>instead they introduced two great villains,
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>154499739
>>154499742
i see you both have plebian taste. is it hard for you to grasp when a villain is more complex and multi-faceted than "blahhhh must destroy blahhh must become sooper stronk"

fucking brolyfags.
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>>154499638
He already has more development in the manga.
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>>154499785
>fucking brolyfags.
Not even, but funny you should say that.
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>>154499672
wasnt their a theory that towa was half angel and thats why she looks more angel like after Mechikabura gave her Demon God powers
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>>154499830
>right hand isn't purple goo
One job, Toei.
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>>154499785
Both Broly and Zamasu were not very good.

Zamasu felt worse not because he was worse than Broly. Because being worse than Broly is pretty hard, but mostly because he was horrifyingly wasted potential.

Manga should be able to portray Black/Zamasu better but to be quite honest that doesn't seem very hard especially giving the colossal fuckup Toei did regarding his character,
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>>154499804
?
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>>154499830
the insanity of the fusion was explained by gowasu. black and zamasu were such excellent characters that they were able to take a stupid broly-esque concept and transform it into something good.
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>>154499785
Zamasu was shit.
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whats worse Zamasufags or Brolyfags
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>>154495552
When you say it like that, it makes me think that watching the stream of this with /a/nons must have been hilarious and unironically better than an episode of super
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>>154499914
>when i can't understand deeper characters they're shit
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>>154485238
A newbie?
The dude says he let the cocoon of Majin Buu because the humans are starting to walk on two legs, so they wheren't dangerous enough to awake buu for mistake.
The point is, how many millions of years that fucker needs to stop being a newbie?
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>>154499912
>black and zamasu were such excellent characters
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>>154499927
"What's worse" fags.
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>>154499927
Zamasufags by far.
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>>154499927
Why pick?
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>>154499966
i like how no one except this guy >>154499875
has made an actual argument, and he did so in a concise manner that made sense. the rest of you faggots just post memes and take pride in your shit taste and your inability to understand complicated writing and characters
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>>154490620
>>154491118
I only came here to say Trunks is sexy and best husbando.
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Reminder that Zamasu is a shit villain https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hQGov2c7lnk
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>>154500014
>the rest of you faggots just post memes and take pride in your shit taste
>irony the post
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>>154500055
>basing your opinion on literally whos' cancerous youtube videos
i can see why you're incapable of understanding zamasu and black now
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Reminder that Black ≠ Zamasu
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>>154500055
>I didn't understand it therefore it's bad
>It wasn't like I wanted therefore it's bad
ok kid
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>>154500099
yet i'm the one posting arguments. i've yet to see a single one from you. until i do, i accept your concession, retard.
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>>154500049
Can't argue with that anon
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>>154499379
>Trunks gets both 18's

You should be firing a different blast into her ass while she does lewd thigns to her other self you autistic plebian time traveler
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>>154500147
That was fun Trunks, now let me reward you
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>>154488226
naoki tate is the greatest animator of all time
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>>154500143
>yet i'm the one posting arguments
Not really, all you're saying is that Black and Zamasu are good characters not really explaining why. Probably because they aren't good characters.
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>>154500143
>i'm the one posting arguments
>arguments
>plural
>literally nothing in the thread in favor of Zamasu besides "he is 2deep4u"
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>>154500223
i've explained it countless times but it seems you are just too dense to grasp it. explains why you need youtube videos to make an opinion. you're probably a blank slate on everything that happens in super until some youtube autist tells you how to view it.
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>>154500107
>>154500117
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does Beerus die if all the Supreme Kais die or just Shin?
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>>154500268
>still no arugment
wew
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>>154500108
Black is just Zamasu who indulges in his deep dark fantasy of removing ningens only exceptionally smug because he got to kill the ningen faggot who pounded him in the past.
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>>154500203
W-WAIT
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>>154489921

sick moves, freeza
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Why didn't Zamasu use the Super Dragon Balls to get rid of Ningen or make them less flawed?
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>>154496645
The OG Future Trunks has PTSD, lives in a shack with Mai and goes on a rampage whenever someone mentions gods
The other Future Trunks joins the Time Patrol

That's it
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>>154500386
Let it happen Trunks-c-h-a-n
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>>154500276
yes
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>>154500408
He had the mind of a ningen at that moment
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>>154500408
Because he wanted to inflict ironic revenge on goku who humiliated him.
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>>154500408
Because he was a shitty character.
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why has this thread been going on for a billion years
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>>154500579
2 weeks of no episode and it's not over yet
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>>154500579
forces of lewd sexiness beyond your control
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>>154500578
>Anon can't understand a villain from a children's show
ok
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>>154500650
I understand he was shit, cry more.
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>>154491372
Jiren/Captain Ayy was shown

DIMPS couldn't hold their semen for that long
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>>154491886
Never if the DLC is only about the Black arc, instead you will wait years for Xenoverse 3
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>>154500249
>>154500249

I've been arguing about Zamasu being a good villain too, in the past.
Since I don't feel like repeating the same things over and over without anything going anywhere, I just stopped and am here to look
But I'll bite and jump in
Zamasu basically represents what happens when you go fully radical with your ideals, he's basically what happens when you believe you're completely in the right and everyone else is in the wrong. He is basically the living embodiment of radicalism, of this retarded sentiment that turns you into the exact evil you're trying to fight.
The funny thing is that the people who call him a hypocrite and a bitch fail to understand how realistic this sentiment is.
Just look at the Islam situation nowadays, those radicals we rightfully hate for their terror attacks in the end see us as ''evil'' and think we should be exterminated for the sake of ''justice''. At the same time you'll have people literally calling for a crusade against all muslims, even the ones that did nothing wrong.
Now tell me, how does that make you any better than the violent evil you're trying to fight against?

This is Zamasu. This is what he represents. He sees himself as the hero and yet he ended up causing more damage than any ningen ever.
He started out as a pure soul with doubts (the scenes with the tea prove that) and then as he went down his dumb rabbit hole he ended up becoming a screaming raging autist
Doesn't it remind you of a certain board on this website?
This also makes him the first villain in the series who first appeared as neutral and then developed into a villain (not counting Black's appearences in the future)

So that's the argument, do you have an actual counter-argument or just shitposting?
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>>154500468
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>>154500681
U mad?
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>>154486366

What happened to this fish guy?
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>>154501030
I wonder if every GoD has one
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>>154500997
inb4 the cyborg guy is a Saiyan too and Brolyne's father and basically not-Paragus
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>>154501030
starved to death after beerus revoked his food rights for pissing him off
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>>154501194
that would be both funny and kinda interesting
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>>154501030
Became a sushi roll for Beerus and Whis after they tasted earth food.
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>>154483641
18 will job. 17 will do one cool thing.
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>>154501030
he evolved and became a god
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>no super ep this week
IM GONNA KILL MYSELF!!!!
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>>154501030

Did he suffer the same fate as Tarble AKA retconned as non-canon?

He only appeared in BoG right? Not in the anime
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>>154501323
nah he was in the anime
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>>154501277
I Hope Toriyama will let this guy return to the Zora Tribe.
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>>154499964
Well we don't have the amount of time the grand supreme kai was in training for reference. Not to mention there was no one to teach him how to do things after Majin Buu killed everyone.
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DBS Needs Hironobu Kageyama back
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>>154492066
>>154492030
It's just a case of Toriyama inconsistency. He designed King Kai to have whiskers as a means of showing his ability to sense things across the universe.

When Supreme Kais were introduced and they took on a more elf form, the original concept has long sense been thrown out the window.

Zamasu is simply the kai of the north in universe 11 despite looking like a supreme kai, for example.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Lh99rFI5gk
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>>154501605
the new canon is that the King Kais of Universe 7 are autists who wear hats with antennae
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>>154501678
or maybe that hat is something all King Kais have, a tool needed to watch over their section of the universe
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Reminder that while the Ki Sword is not a new concept, Zamasu is the one who did it best
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