Was there any way to defeat him with Nen techniques?
Was it stated somewhere that Netero is the strongest hunter, not just the most high-ranked?
I believe that if all of the strong hunters introduced in the series teamed up against Meruem, they would've defeated him. Not without casualties, but they would have the upper hand most of the time.
It's not a normal nuke, it was a poison bomb
The bomb scatters a vast quantity of an unparalleled poison the instant it explodes. Those who survive the initial explosion will suffer direct internal damages caused by rapid uptake of the poison. The poison catalyzes the production and emission of new poison until the victims finally succumb to death. The quantity of poison as well as the survival time prior to death are truly exquisite, propagating a vast chain reaction of victims.
Obviously, Chairman wasn't even in his prime, besides it's probably better to pick the perfect nen technique to counter his raw strength rather than power level physical fights ala dbz. But Togashi couldn't resist doing that since Meruem is in part tribute to Cell and dragan bell.
I'm pretty sure he was considered the strongest in hand-to-hand combat, but with how nen powers work, "strongest" is a relative term. A very simple example would be Kuroro (or however you want to spell it, the head of the spiders), who while obviously very strong, was captured/at the mercy of Kurapica, who had crafted a power specifically to kill the spiders.
Let's say a very talented nen master had a deep hatred the chimera ants (because, I don't know, a chimera ant raid killed his whole family), and used his life to create a power that would 100% kill Meruem on some condition. It might be difficult to create, but it would definitely work with the conditions fulfilled.
In the end, it's all a matter of how much talent for nen one has, which kind of talent it is (for the kind of power) and how focused on a particular thing one is (see Kurapica, Gon).
the entire point of that arc concerning strength was that they weren't supposed to beat the ants at all I mean killua maybe could a beat pouf but it took a bomb to kill the king, morel, knucle and shoot to occupy youpi, and gon sacrificing his potential to kill pitou. I'm sure the poison from the bombs would have killed pitou to if her and gon ended up staying they really needed a third party like the bomb and komugi to stand a chance.
International incident that the V5 wanted to avoid at all costs. The Black Rose was a last resort.
This or just get Knov to use Scream to remove Meruem's head completely.
They used it anyway, she it really couldn't have been that big of a deal.
Dragon Drive has more flash bedazzle to it than a nuke, and they had no problem using that.
That said, Knov with that chameleon guy would have been a flawless combo. Assume that Scream doesn't have some kind of restriction where he has to have more raw nen power than his target.
He was beaten in gungi by Komugi, continuing with the theme of HxH that there is always a way to defeat someone.
Also couldn't they have trapped him in Knov's pocket dimension and have him starve to death?
>They used it anyway, she it really couldn't have been that big of a deal.
It was a last resort, the option was always on the table but it would have been best for Netero to be able to kill the king without it. In the aftermath they had to spin the bomb as being part of !KimJongIl's attempt at national murder-suicide and blamed any deaths on him.
During the actual fight you never see his aura, he only uses it to flex his power level and when he is temporarily pissed. His aura is also shown during the end where they exchange thousands of blows, but I assumed that was just used for visual effects.
Yes, I heard you the first time you said it was a last resort. Repeating it doesn't make it any less stupid.
They could have just bombed them anonymously. It's not like anyone would be able to figure out who did it.
they would be ripped apart. they have nothing against meruems strength and speed.
netero only survived for some time because of susanoo and did little to no damage with his attack.
What do you think a nuke is? A small bomb that will only erase a palace? If they dropped a nuke in the palace, the whole country would get caught up in it. Even if only the chimeras were at the palace, all the people living near them would die.
2vs1 helps a lot, but Zeno doesn't have anything that can hurt or defend against Meruem. Chances are that Meruem would immediately notice that Zeno is the weakest link, kill him and then it's back to 1 on 1.
You asked why they didn't use the bomb right off the bat and I told you why the story says so. If you don't like it that's one thing but keep in mind this world is heavily politicized and an anonymous bomb is arguably worse than knowing where the source came from.
Netero was said to be the strongest Nen user in the world. Even sacrificing his life force, he was unable to deal significant damage.
So it's confirmed that there was no way to defeat Meruem with a raw power Nen attack. Jew techniques like Knuckle's or Kurapika's could be worth a try.
I am pretty sure that they confirm hundreds of thousands of people who were awaiting selection died as a result of the Fallout from the Black Rose. It's not an entire country but it was a huge population loss.
Leave Meruem to me
Nen abilities are all ass-pullery to begin with. They can do anything for no real reason and with no real limitation.
'Oh, but you need a powerful drawback to have a powerful ability!' No you don't. Hisoka literally brings himself back from the dead, the drawback to that was apparently that he had to be dead in order to bring himself back from the dead, real fucking drawback. And Nanika can do apparently anything and if Killua is the one asking then it's completely consequence free.
Nen abilities are entirely nonsensical asspullery, so sure Meruem could've been beaten by that. Probably by some 5 year old whose power is anyone he looks at dies or some stupid shit like that.
Pitous nen ability is stop bodydecomposiation also the king didn't even have a hatsu. If he really wanted to he could have developed one and survive but he choose to die by komugis side.
I really dislike the way Cheeto died. Togashi just wanted to drop into hiatus again I see no reason for all that character build up and then oneshotting him
I'm pretty sure you couldn't even defeat Meruem with that new kind of nen from one of the movies, you know, the one that's fanfic oc tier strong and feeds on revenge or some shit.
>Hisoka literally brings himself back from the dead, the drawback to that was apparently that he had to be dead in order to bring himself back from the dead
An important condition was that his body is in one piece, or else a pacemaker doesn't help much.
Then, that doesn't make sense either, since the brain is destroyed after suffocation.
Must suck being so literally fucking retarded you can't even read or function correctly.
Your argument is that people would die because they were getting close for the selection.
The reply to that was use it before the selection started.
This really isn't that hard to understand.
>Does Hisoka show any signs of brain damaged?
Clearly yes, but that's already there before the fight with Chrollo.
>Also, does he act more mumble after getting fucked?
No, it's the opposite, actually.
>the king didn't even have a hatsu. If he really wanted to he could have developed one and survive but he choose to die by komugis side.
I can agree that the pitous puppet ability could've save her or atleast her body, but the king was still affected by the poison after he regenerated I doubt any hatsu he came up with could of save him. I wonder why togashi didn't give him one in the first place I suppose it of made him even more op.
I'm pretty sure more than just his brain was damaged
>that syringe ass fuckin tail
>somehow able to use it like a sword and cut people's heads off
What? The only thing that confuses me more than this is the fact that mpreg is an actual thing and Gon's mom is probably a rock.
All this Netero wanking. Yeah he was strong but in his own words he said that it has been 50 years since he considered the most powerful man on the planet. I am sure there will be some people introduced that could beat meruem in a straight fight.
What's wrong with his tail? It's all super dense muscle, it'd easily lob a humans head off. If real life animals can decapitate humans, surely a superpowered monster like that can as well
so what you're saying is ging fucked a rock flesh light
I liked it. When people call Hunter x Hunter a subversion of standard Shonen tropes, they're usually wrong, but in this respect, they're not. The idea of someone aside from the Main Protagonist confronting and defeating the Central Antagonist of an arc doesn't happen very often. Gon never even MEETS Meruem.
The world at large didn't know about the existence of the Chimera Ants. It was only in that one republic and a media blackout was in effect. So the V5, the ruling political body chose to use whatever method of extermination would draw the least attention.
This was because if the world found out about the Chimera Ants it would break the masquerade surrounding the Dark Continent.
Since they were maintaining the illusion that nothing was too out of the ordinary they can't just up and bomb the NGL or Gorau Republic because doing so in the former means attacking a seemingly politically neutral nation. The latter is part of military alliances so bombing them also risks sparking more conflict.
Lastly, the fallout from the Black Rose is devastating and if I remember the effects can last generations. The V5 wished to avoid that loss but deemed it necessary if Netero and the Hunter Association failed to contain the threat.
Lastly, the Black rose is an illegal weapon and 80% of the world's countries banned it's use. So using that particular weapon is against that particular treaty hence why they had to cover up the real instigator for it's detonation.
am I the only one that finds them extremely underwhelming except a select few
>But they used it anyway, so you're wrong.
Ok anon, I can see you don't care to actually hear any arguments, nor did you pay attention to all the political components of the story. I'll leave you to your ramblings.
Without nen techniques, not without nen.
On the other hand he managed to hurt Pitou apparently without Nen so that's pretty fucking impressive, especially since even lower-ranked ants can fuck up human nen users without using nen themselves and Pitou is on a whole other level.
Visual cues are a terrible way to judge this, there are plenty of examples in CA when aura was not shown but it's perfectly obvious it was a nen fight. Even if the king wasn't using hatsu or even ren it can be assumed he had at least his ten aura on. You rarely see Netero's aura either unless you count Kannon.
How do you not understand what you're reading so badly?
Yes, I understand what your argument is. You're not so smart that people can't understand you.
What I'm saying is that because they were prepared to use it at all means it was acceptable use and they should have done it first.
And like it was pointed out, they were already prepared to let 5,000,000 people die in the selection just to have a shot at the king.
So why do people think Knov's scream would work simply because he used it on some fodder caught by surprise?
And why do morons continue to read the story backwards when the answer to their stupid AF questions are answered in the series. Only confirms the people who want to call the CA arc shit are two dozen IQ points fewer than the average reader.
>What I'm saying is that because they were prepared to use it at all means it was acceptable use and they should have done it first.
And I provided you with the reasons why they didn't just nuke the ants to begin with. You claim that I'm not so smart yet your failing to understand what was written.
This is correct. Not that it is a bad thing.
Why wouldn't it work? Even if he had sensed the attack coming, Meruem was totally the type to just sit there and see what it can do.
>Because all those "reasons" are contradicted by the point they used the bomb anyway.
I keep telling you all I am explaining is why they DIDN'T use the bomb as a starting option. Not starting an international incident and maintaining a media blackout are valid excused.
Jesus fuck you're retarded.
And I already explained how those "reasons" are not valid, because they ended up using the bomb in the first place. Also, again, dragon drive is basically a wide scale bomb itself, which there was no issue with being used. If trying to hide the fact they were there in the first place was the problem, then dragon drive should not have been used first either.
>And I already explained how those "reasons" are not valid, because they ended up using the bomb in the first place
But you are wrong because the bomb was not used until the end. And the reasons given are why. You say they are invalid but the narrative proves you wrong.
And since the dragon dive is your best counterargument keep in mind it is a nen technique and is invisible to the overwhelming majority of people.
You are screeching foul and just saying people are wrong when you missed the point of why the bomb was the climax of that fight.
meruem doesnt have his nen active all the time. You could count on one hand the number of times Meruem used his nen. Also, Meruems nen didnt have anything to defend against knovs scream
>innocent bystanders might get poisoned and die
I don't know about you but I'd like to avoid killing an entire country just because I got into a fight with some ants
>because the bomb was not used until the end
Because of the plot contrived "reasons", you fucking moron.
You are literally using the bad writing itself as the excuse for the bad writing. Do you understand what circular reasoning is?
>your best counterargument
No, that was just a side point to further show how dumb you are.
>invisible to the overwhelming majority of people.
The damage is causes sure fucking isn't.
On a side note, why does this guy think they were willing to forgo 5 million lives when later on it was shown that the idea didn't sit right with any of them? Didn't Killua's go on a three day rampage taking out Pitou's guards and didn't Netero lure Meruem away from the controlled masses?
>nen is still used in major conflicts
Is it? I see Nen used a lot by operators operating operationally but I don't remember it being particularly relevant for wider military operations.
Killua basically took on Not Korea's military by himself, clearly they were never expected to fight nen users at all.
I imagine nen's role in warfare is small teams or individuals going for assassination/sabotage and protecting their own side from the same.
not that anon but it clearly showed in the arc how bored with life netero was. He saw the king as a challenge, "finally somebody potentially stronger than me, ill have some fun!" he only had the nuke implanted in case he lost.
Isn't there a thin shroud that surrounds his body in the same way Gon and Killua did when their pores were open. Whether he's conscious of it or not, it happens to everyone however faint.
Netero was arrogant as fuck, way past his prime AND had no help aside from very few persons (I think he even mentioned that parts of the Hunter Association even tried to sabotage his goal if just by staying absent).
As for his guard, they would have fallen in combat against stronger hunters. Gon had to waste his potential to do so, but once he did he did not only beat Pitou he *slaughtered* her without care or effort.
Netero isolated and took the King completely by surprise by having a poisoned nuke planted inside him that would active should he die, so even if he lost it would still be a double ko. There's no safer plan than this.
What guarantee is there that Pitou wouldn't have sensed the bomb coming? Considering how fast the King is, knowing a nuke is coming his way, even if it's just for a few seconds, he might just be able to escape most of the explosion. And if it doesn't outright kill him there's no second chance, he'll make damn sure he won't be vulnerable to that kind of threat again.
Its not his fault hes arrogant, he was literally the most powerful being for 50+ years. It even said in his flashbacks that he stopped caring about his opponents shaking his hands and shit
>Because of the plot contrived "reasons", you fucking moron.
This is your opinion that the writing is contrived. I disagree but whatever, I am not going to change your mind at this point.
The decision wasn't made by killia, it was made by the political powers. Of course the individuals aren't OK with it and Netero tries to minimize casualties. But in his case the job was still important enough that the pros outweighed the cons.
No, he was right. the best way was to just nuke the palace, the reason he employed killuas granpa was so he can have a 1 vs 1 with meruem. the nuke was just in case he lost, thats why it activates when his heart stops beating
Literal fucking down syndrome. Ration is part of the Nucular process. Saying "poisoned nuke" is retarded and redundant.
>What guarantee is there that Pitou wouldn't have sensed the bomb coming
Because Pitou straight up admitted his en can't sense inanimate objects.
Nanika/Alluka was a complete asspull though.
Gon is dying and Killua just conveniently remembers that he has a sister who has been locked away in their basement for years and can grant wishes at the prize of three requests and Killua happens to be the only one who can bypass all the rules for no paticular reason.
I doubt that anyone would've even thought of using her to defeat the ants.
I was wondering how long you it would take you to say this. Now I know you're just full blown brain damaged.
Something being contrived is not something that can be opinion based. Something is either contrived or it isn't. You can't use the plot itself to excuse the plot. That's circular reasoning. Like you were just told.
Epic downvote. Your post sure makes you smart, good job, redditor.
Then let's agree to disagree.
I envision a scenario when Knov sacks up and bring Meleoron along. He gets in close uses Scream and it cancels out.
I can see what you are saying but they way he was shown to casually put fear in the hearts of the oppressors and being an out and out monster. The thought of it just doesn't mesh personally
Do you imagine actually learning English before posting on an English board?
And like it was already said, there are no national ties here. Because they can just drop the nuke anonymously.
>Literal fucking down syndrome. Ration is part of the Nucular process. Saying "poisoned nuke" is retarded and redundant.
To be fair, the nature of said poison is left ambiguous, it could simply be radiations or an entirely different kind of "poison" that is unique to the HxH universe.
And Pitou sensed something was coming way before his en reached the dragon.
I'm not arguing whether Nanika is an asspull or not, that's an another discussion.
I'm saying in this hypothetical scenario, Nanika could kill Meruem, probably at the cost of hundreds of thousands of lives or more, but yeah it could happen.
That makes more sense because again it's one monster killing another
If we isolate Alluka for the rest of her life right after someone wished to kill Meruem there could potentially be no drawback at all right?
Or "nen that gets stronger after death" applies to Alluka and the planet goes kaboom?
The reason Pitou looked up was literally "just because". That's what the series itself says.
"Just because" was also the reason that Shoot randomly turned the collar of his shirt into an eye patch.
A bomb dropping and not being able to sense it with en is more than enough to get them.
>Something being contrived is not something that can be opinion based.
I was patient enough to provide reasoning and evidence. For the story.
Now you tell me why it's contrived aside from your opinion.
You were already told that you can not use circular reasoning and you just keep trying to do it.
Also, you are clearly retarded and will dismiss anything that proves you wrong as an "opinion", and as such ignore it.
I guess if Scream can't decapitate Meruem for whatever reason they could use Morel as well.
>take Meruem by surprise using God's Accomplice
>have Knov teleport the whole king to an isolated room
>have Morel somehow suck out the oxygen of said room
I think there is some kind of in-universe machine that let's you break nen created space with your own nen if you have more.
When Cheeto's put Morel in that tag room nen thing, Morel said he could easily break out if he undid deep purple and got all his nen back.
But unless a certain someone fails to grant Alluka her wishes four times in a row after someone else has made a wish from Nanika, there'll be no casualties right? Or am I remembering the rules wrong?
Here's my attempt at explaining away the plotholes.
First, a conventional nuke was out of the question for the Powers that Be. It would be too easy to trace that back to whoever fired it and there was a small chance that the ants would be able to shoot it down towards the end of its flight, the fallout would be too much of a problem. This forced them to make use of the more anonymous Rose.
But who would deliver it? Although all the hunters went there prepared to die, none of them wanted to just die like glorified mules.
Netero, who was frankly tired of living at that point, volunteered on the condition that he got to fight the king first, or perhaps he even tricked the Powers that Be and fought the king just to satisfy his battlelust instead of detonating right away, it wouldn't matter at that point. It's likely the shadowy cabal was sort of forcing his hand too, probably to owe up to the hunter association's failure to nip the threat in the bud when it was still a couple of oversized ants eating rice farmers instead of the king taking over an entire country.
Either way, Netero manipulated the king into fighting him in that ancient tomb, which allowed him to use the Rose at point blank in a confined underground space, this was absolutely the ideal situation both in terms of minimizing fallout and maximizing destructive power (and it was still just enough to deal with the king.)
Zeno's Dragon Dive is mostly a non-issue. It's probably a fairly well-kept secret, he was asked by Netero, it was less of a liability than any physical missile, targeted the palace quite precisely and was a nen attack, meaning the onlookers who weren't ants or Netero's allies had no idea why the palace suddenly was riddled full of holes.
I don't know how much the cabal cared about the civilians. It's possible that they wrote them off as casualties (as in it was too much hassle to save them) but they still had apprehensions about committing war crimes unless absolutely necessary.
To get a wish, you have to answer Alluka's requests without fail. If killing Meruem is within Nanika's grasp, it'll be granted but because of the sheer magnitude of the wish, it will cost many, many, many lives
>Netero uses the Zero Hand at full force against the head
>It only causes bruises and scratches
>Netero fucking dies facing a litteral insect head telling him how admirable he is
The same would apply for Pouf and Youpi. They didn't hold their breaths even though they were standing smack dab at ground zero.
And they survived for a time, until the Rose's poison finished them off
I think he meant he could have easily used the full power of Deep Purple to catch Cheetoman but he only had a little aura left to spare.
I'm also unsure that Morel actually had more nen than him, the ant generals are pretty ridiculous.
Actually I checked this thread out because some spawn of Satan told me it would continue by April. Triggered my autism quite a bit.
No. I'm not sure how good the translation is but it's pretty obvious he's talking about filling the pocket space with smog in order to sneak up on Cheetoman.
>You were already told that you can not use circular reasoning and you just keep trying to do it.
Your logic is circular. "It's contrived because it's contrived" is not an answer. Thanks for proving that in addition to not having an argument. You are just projecting your own flawed reasoning style onto others.
You literally tried to use the plot itself as the reason it's not wrong. Again, that is called circular. And I never tried to use circular reasoning, you just don't understand what that actually means.
Your argument was "because the story says so". But here's the thing, what if the story is wrong? Have you considered that? What if the story is flawed in the way it presents itself? This is why you can't use the story itself as your sole form of proof.
Who knows what translation is more accurate to original. I don't have the raws, and I can't really be bothered to look for them. I know in the anime he says break out in Japanese as well.
It's pretty sad that after the explosion the King is pretty much fucking irrelevant.
Especially the way he was hyped/built up.
>Hiatus x Hiatus is a more accurate name than I thought
the truth fucking hurts its funny as fans we can't even defend him
honestly if we don't even get news I'm might just do it anon at this point I wont even be happy if it comes back I'll just be thinking about when its gonna leave
>all this hype
>fights Netero and barely even gets scratched by his attacks
>oh shit guess I'll go see my blind human girlfriend and die with her alone in a room while she kicks my ass at a board game
Well, you made me check the raws, and it now makes it perfectly clear he meant to break out of the space by shrouding everything in smoke (in order to catch Cheetoman.)
In fact I'm not sure where they got "break out" from unless they changed the dialog in the anime.
>You literally tried to use the plot itself as the reason
How is that wrong in this case? You are asking the following questions all of which are answered in the text.
>Why didn't they just nuke the ants in the first place.
This is because the V5 who is monitoring the situation and is effectively the ruling political body chose to handle the Ants with as much discression as possible and within reason. This is why they did not have anyone launch a formal nuclear strike against either countries that were infested.
>Why if they were willing to sacrifice 5 million lives should they care?
Because not keeping things under wraps risks having the existence of the Chimera Ants and the Dark Continent leaked to the masses. Something that spells a calamity for humanity should people try to go to, or return from the DC.
>Why not nuke the palace before the selection?
Because at that point Pitou was employing her En which has a radius of 1Km, as well as it's sharpened senses. There was a possibility that a missile strike wouldn't have worked. Why they didn't just have someone infiltrate and detonate the bomb when Knov had accomplished the former is explained by them not wanting to trigger an international incident. Remember that the general population does not know that the current leader has been killed and blowing up a capital building is not an option at this point.
>If they used Dragon Dive why didn't they just use a Nuke?
Because Dragon Dive is a nen technique and normal people (i.e. Most of the population) can't see it. However, it was not strong enough to kill the king and this was probably already surmised by Netero. The True intention of the Dragon Dive was a shock and Awe tactic and Netero didn't tell anyone not even Knov/Morel.
>why does Netero want a 1v1 and why does the V5 let him?
He's the "strongest" human and bored with not having a challenge; this was established during the Hunters Exam. The V5 trusts him above all else to get the job done and put a bomb in him as insurance. If he can't kill Mereum by himself the bomb is hoped to accomplish the task.
>Your argument was "because the story says so". But here's the thing, what if the story is wrong? Have you considered that? What if the story is flawed in the way it presents itself? This is why you can't use the story itself as your sole form of proof.
No, My argument was that the story presents reasons for why things happen and I explained what those reasons were. I can only surmise what the story tells by referring to it unless you have some other method.
I then posed to you the question of why you think the story is contrived because right now I believe the story explains everything we need to know in a logical manner. There are problems with pacing but not with delivery of information but that is my take. You must now explain why you believe it is a contrivancy or why the story is flawed.
You have to explain yourself because just saying "it's contrived because it's contrived" is the actual circular reasoning you are looking for. But this probably won't do anything because you'll ignore an actual response and just keep screeching autisticlly about not nuking everything as a first resort.
That's nice, but they used the bomb. So you're wrong.
You're even more wrong about Pitou. And you just proved you're not even reading the thread. Because Pitou even explained that she can't detect intimate objects going into her en.
And your whole "political" argument is wrong to start with, for reasons already explained. But obviously they could just out the fact that the country as a whole was corrupt and killing people en-masse.
There goes anyone caring about "international problems."
>Your argument was "because the story says so".
>No, My argument was that the story presents reasons for why things happen
Just stop talking. You are making a massive fool out of yourself.
Hunter x Hunter is not well written. Get over it. It's not a big deal. Move on with your life.
>That's nice, but they used the bomb. So you're wrong.
And here we go again. You have no argument and I even address why they don't use the bomb at multiple junctures but you just ignore things and revert back to your starting point.
>>No, My argument was that the story presents reasons for why things happen
So please tell me how I am supposed to know what takes place in a story if I don't read it? How do you judge whether or not something is contrived if you first don't look for answers to questions you have about the narrative? What are you even talking about?
If I remember correctly the whole point Netero took Meruem from palace was to take him to weapon test site to have valid explanation why bomb was set off.
Also they cant just nuke neutral countries since people would ask questions and doomsday ants that eat humans are great for panic and hysteria but bad for economy. Fuck 5000000 people world economy is more important.
Like you were already told, the fact they did use the bomb means that they could use the bomb. Meaning the damage it would cause is acceptable. Meaning there was no reason not to use it in the first place.
No matter what the story says, you can not change this. It's very simple and you keep trying to make logical leaps to justify bad writing
Also, you make it clear you're new, and you can't even use green text correctly.
Also, that was is no way telling you to "not read the story" or whatever, I have no idea how you got that from what I said.
"No, My argument was that the story presents reasons for why things happen" is "Your argument was "because the story says so." worded differently. They mean the same thing.
The ants made appearances on live TV.
>Oh, hey world. The ants took over this nation, here's video footage of them occupying the palace. So we dropped a nuke on them to fix the problem. Thanks for your time, have a nice day.
>Meaning the damage it would cause is acceptable
This is where you are wrong though. The damage was acceptable under certain circumstances. Why else would they put a bomb inside of someone and not launch it? There was a specific means that the V5 wanted things to play out in. Nobody is refuting the idea that the bomb was an acceptible measure, you are the only one arguing that it should be a go-to method for this situation when clearly the narrative presents evidence to the contrary.
The rest of your post is garbage and if I had to guess you're actually the newfag here. That or a troll.
Local news was being filtered by the outside world. Not many people outside of the Gorau republic actually knew what was going on.
>Why else would they put a bomb inside of someone and not launch it?
For plot contrived reasons. You were already told this. Here you are again trying to use what the story did as a reason for why it's not wrong. Circular reasoning like always.
>ur post is garbage because i say so
So they could filter that public news about the ants but they couldn't filter news about a bomb?
Either way you're missing the point, which is that they have proof the ants took over, which would justify the bomb either way.
>Either way you're missing the point, which is that they have proof the ants took over, which would justify the bomb either way.
Exposing the ants exposes the dark continent and remember, the V5 was formed to keep people from trying to go there. There are things far more dangerous than the Ants that can be brought back.
Having to justify the Nuke is easier especially when the Ants made it appear as if notKimjongil had declared martial law and gone nuts. And they would have to because East Gorau is a major country.
>For plot contrived reasons
And you've failed to even explain why its contrived so I don't care at this point.
>Circular reasoning like always
I agree, must be sad that you won't try something different.
>ur post is garbage because i say so
I do actually. But you could change that by being less an autist and actually explaining what you mean by bad writing. I'm not opposed to people finding flaws in HxH, hell I do myself. But you're not capable of doing so.
>Exposing the ants exposes the dark continent
No it doesn't. Now you're just reaching even harder.
The Hunter x Hunter world is full of random monster shit. No one would think twice about weird ants.
How it's bad writing was already explained to you. You just block it out because you're insane. Also, I'm fairly sure you don't even know what contrived means. Calling it contrived is the explication. The plot given reasons are the only reasons that make the event "valid" with in its own story. Actual real world reasoning does not apply. That's what contrived means, that the plot makes convent excuses for itself. In this case, why they can't use a bomb, but then end up using it anyway.
>I do actually.
Thanks for admitting you're wrong.
>How it's bad writing was already explained to you.
No it hasn't? Not by you at the very least.
You're next post will include the word contrived
>The Hunter x Hunter world is full of random monster shit. No one would think twice about weird ants.
And yet there is a massive cover up to hide the fact that the world that humans know in this world is actually just a fraction of what is actually out there.
That cover up means nothing. You tried to use "exposes the dark continent" as some kind of excuse. But no one would know what the dark continent just by mentioning ants.
I'm curious, are you under age? Like 16 or 17? It would explain how stupid you are.
Link your post explaining the contrivances or stop your screeching.
Good for you though, you didn't use the word Contrived.
Are you the other autist and samefagging? Why would you risk people investigating the origin of these creatures? Why would you instigate a national panic when you can cover shit up?
>are two people samefagging
Do you even know what the word samefagging means? Kind of showing how new you are again.
And the point is that people wouldn't bother investigating it, because people already assume there are random monsters all over the world.
And if they can cover shit up, why can't they cover up the bomb? You didn't answer this before.
Confirmed for being him. Thanks for playing. But no one will ever believe you just because you say you're not someone else over the internet.
And you have proven you will ignore whatever is said to you, so there's no point in typing it again.
>Do you even know what the word samefagging means?
Seeing that you and the other guy have the same inability to read the series and understand why things work I never know. And since only you two have tried to use being underaged as a reason to deflect a comment I had to be sure.
>And the point is that people wouldn't bother investigating it,
Remember when Kite took that ant sample to that scientist? What's stopping someone else from doing so and then realizing that ant psyiology doesn't conform to any known organism in the human world? Even the blatantly magical creature stuff?
>And if they can cover shit up, why can't they cover up the bomb?
They do cover up the nuke though. Pic related.
Unfortunately I'm equally autistic and can't drop things.
I like how you're not even smart enough to back link the correct posts which you want to reply to.
>you can't understand because i say so
I like how this is your go to reply for pretty much everything.
And you keep ignoring how the whole HxH series is full of random monsters. The ants are no different. It would not directly lead someone to the dark continent.
>They do cover up the nuke though. Pic related.
Good, so they had no reason not to use it in the first place.
>I like how you're not even smart enough to back link the correct posts which you want to reply to.
Unless you actually are same fagging you are not the person I am addressing. Either way since you haven't actually made any valid points I'm done with you now.
I like how you're so stupid you can't even realize your own mistakes or read your own posts to realize how stupid you are.
In this post >>154418688 you replied to >>154418585 saying "Unfortunately I'm equally autistic" when you meant to reply to the post directly above it >>154418560
I'm done with you. You've made a fool out of yourself so many times already, and it's clear you're too stupid to be reasoned with.
Togahi's writing is so fucking boring
It's so painful in the lead up to the dark continent expedition with the zodiacs. You KNOW they're going to leave eventually yet page after page is just filled with people talking about how dangerous it is. Like, I get it. I got it after the first time. I don't need to be reminded 100 more times.
Now I know you are working that single brain cell of yours to the its limit but understand two things.
A) Not the same guy
B) The asinine argument that ''durr HxH is full of majical beests, the ants don't meen shit to nobody'' was out right debunked seeing how the Southern Piece officials labeled the limb from an unregistered creature and Kite along with his group of ecologists agreed with that assessment.
Accept that you were proven wrong and move on to your other failed arguments.
oh yea thats why he was able to fly after the yaoi scene right? because he absorbed their cells forgot about that sorry its been a while I read the enitriety kingdom I don't mind rereading hunter
ITT: People keep forgetting that Knovs room can be escaped from.
You have to go through the whole mansion but there is exactly one exit for each entrance portal (excluding Knovs master key).
Chimaera ant arc was shit, it jacked up the powerlevels for no reason to stupid levels. If I wanted that, I'd go watch Frieza arc of DBZ which is better if mass destruction and powerlevels is what you're after.
Idk how well Netero's nen was developed. But I do remember Netero saying that he was only half as strong as he used to be because of his age. So basically Netero was at half power the entire fight.
Netero said he was the strongest Nen user half a century ago and that he was at less than half his original strength
Though he did train a lot before fighting Meruem so I guess he should be closer to half his strength at that point
I'm guessing a lot of you aren't aware, but transgender people do exist, and pitou and kurapika are heavily coded as trans. Looks don't decide gender. Please respect his pronouns and gender because otherwise you're honestly just being rude.
actual anon he replied to thank god I really thought that nigga was serious except about the kurapika thing I was genuinely gonna respond. it didn't really make sense he forwarded that reply to me and not >>154412337
The biggest problem is that Ging would never be in the same place for long enough to realize that he got someone pregnant, unless the mother is a Zodiac or one of the Greed Island girls.
Best way to get rid of a pest
The DC arc hasn't even 'started' yet and it already fucking sucks. Like, who fucking cares that Ging and co. are going to roam the fucking woods and hide from scary monster for a billion chapters until it rolls until the next story line anyway? All this trip is going to is finish the job the CA started and raise the powerlevel to some gay shit.
I actually think it would be pretty cool if they fail miserably in the DC and Ging gets stuck over there or something, which spurs Gon to train to become strong enough to go over to the DC to find Ging again, keeping true to his first goal.
>Togashi posts a detailed list going in detail about the power ranking the calamities were given and how it isn't solely about strength but specific characteristics and traits that prove to be a major detriment to humanity as a whole.
>Urgh look at the power levuls, looks like HxH is turning in to DBZeee gaiz
>HxH probably won't be finished before 2020
If the King had gotten Pitou's nen would it have possible for him to cure his radiation sickness with self-surgery?
Keep in mind nen he obtained became perfected/strengthened.
Replace all the infected cells with healthy cells? It's far-fetched, but I like the idea because it gives Gon a more heroic role by removing Pitou as a piece in the game who might have otherwise undone everything the Chairman sacrificed himself to accomplish.
>HxH probably won't be finished before 2030
>he thinks the people actually bothered to read HxH
This thread is clearly filled with people who didn't pay attention during the anime.
dunno about most powerful being but we already know he isn't the most dangerous thing to have ever lived
Trick question there is no best written Shonen just well-written Shonen. Eventually any long-running seris is going to shit the bed it's just a matter of how bad and how long. But for my money I want to say that I've really enjoyed Bird men and I think the quality of the writing is very good. HxH is also well written but you have to go back and reread it outside of the hiatuses. Otherwise it feels poorly paced.
>you have to go back and reread it outside of the hiatuses. Otherwise it feels poorly paced.
I feel I have to stress this, going back and reading it made me feel a lot better towards HxH than I did reading it during the hiatuses.
I remember loathing the CA arc because I would read one chapter of narrator text boxes and then nothing would happen for months. It got so bad I started reverse engineering Gun-gi.
What? Meruem simply attacked Netero from a billion different angles until he found the exact one necessary to fuck his shit. He outpaced him, but definitely didn't outsmart him. The Kings plan was relatively simple from the start
Can someone explain to me pledge's and restriction and all that shit? I don't understand it all that well and why can't anyone just put their life at risk to gain power against one certain foe
yes i'm autistic, i know
They couldn't even beat fucking Chrollo in a 2v1 without sacrificing Zeno.
And Chrollo isn't nearly as powerful as Meruem, just very difficult to fight thanks to his countless different nen abilities and his ability to steal techniques.
This power would need something huge in exchange like the user's life and only work if other conditions are met (like being close to each other, etc). Which is basically what happened with Netero.
Are the zodiacs even that powerful?
If Kurapika and a jobber like Leorio could become a Zodiac with little-to-no vetting, it doesn't make it seem like it's an organization for the best of the best.
Kurapika was awesome during yorkshin but I question how useful he really is against non-troupe members
It ENHANCES YOUR WILL AND DETERMINATION because it takes TRUE RESOLVE to give your power a bunch of bullshit conditions
or something i don't know just give me another chapter please
The Zoldycks only kill for pay. Hiring any of them to kill something like Meruem would require half the money in the world. Netero already planned to kill Meruem with the nuke as last resort since he knew he would never stand a chance agains him. That's when he decided to contact Zeno for his dragon dive technique and to use it then to fly Meruem to the wasteland.
Many Zodiac members are definitely support types more than fighters, I'm pretty sure I remember Hisoka or whoever discussing their power levels and there were only like 3 Zodiacs who were threatening. As ridiculously strong as Hisoka is, the royal guards were still way above him, nevermind the king.
>Implying I ever suggested either of these things in my post
Anon-kun you're way off basis here.
>Like, who fucking cares that Ging and co. are going to roam the fucking woods
Which is nonsense, since Gon can't even use nen anymore and they were losing badly to some fucking ants from that continent before.
you should read the manga or even watch the anime anon if you missed something as basic as this.
>Can someone explain to me pledge's and restriction and all that shit?
The gist of it is basically the harsher the restriction you impose the stronger your ability becomes. The restriction can be in how your ability is activated, when can you use your ability, who can you use it on etc.
>why can't anyone just put their life at risk to gain power against one certain foe
They can. The thing is the restriction is a double edged sword it's not a free power up. But also just because you have a restriction doesn't mean you will automatically be stronger than your opponent.
Suppose Melody was a part of the spiders and that Melody and Kurapika are to 1 v 1. If Kurapika is angry and his eyes are red then his chances to win get even higher. His eyes aren't exactly a restriction that he imposed on himself just the way his body is. His restriction enabled him to gain even more power. Now if Melody plays a song that calms Kurapika then that power up is effectively gone.
Not him but who the fuck is actually cuter than Shizuku that isn't some faggot tranny?
I swear that every single faggot who hates on the CA arc also asks the dumbest questions about it that could be easily answered by just paying attention. I don't think it's a coincidence.
Netero did not go into the fight thinking he was going to lose but he did prepare for it anyway. He knew that the ants were strong and that they could use nen but that was it. Netero has been alive for a very long time, has ton of battle experience and was at one point one of the strongest hunters in the world. A title that he held for something like 50 years. Nen quantity and strength isn't everything.
Where the fuck did you get Gon from? I'm specifically talking a Ging and exploration team.
I got it from
I have no idea, sorry. Forget what I said, then.
Still I highly doubt the story would shift its focus on them. It would probably go back to Kurapika, mixing it up with Gons new training arc while killing 90% of the guys who went to the DC offscreen.
>tfw gf looks just like her in a black sweater and jeans
>they could've bombed it anonymously, thus opening a pandora's box of international confrontations, with the possibility of Meruem not being in the palace at the moment or somehow surviving the explosion with the protection of his royal guard.
Did you forget about Pitou's en and how quick Meruem could move from one place to another?
Bitch please, Dog girl is way cute than Rabbit girl.
Cheadle is ugly and dresses like a grandma.
What the fuck is with this faggot? How powerful is he that it was notable that Netero was even able to survive in a fight against him?
Rabbit girl is acceptable too.
But Hina is best.
> He doesn't realize that bitchy conservative girls makes for the nastiest freaks around
I weep for you anon.
>you will never have a friend that does everything in his power to sabotage your relationship with you're waifu because he'd rather have your dick all to himself
dodged a bullet
I'm still convinced that she's the result of Ponzu being eaten
> He thinks is acceptable to put hoes before bros when the future of your entire race is at stake
This is why Mereum died both a failure and fucking virgin.
>Blind girl with ebola
>#1 candidate of anything
Pouf was without a doubt the smartest nigga in that country
Remember how the ants left after the queens death to become kings on their own? It was stated that they can indeed reproduce with other species. So of course, as the ant king Meruem can do it, too.
And he would have chosen Komugi for it./spoiler]
Love is love, no matter what race or species.
Any ability that ignores strength. Owl's fun fun cloth would've worked to neutralize him. The problem would just be trying to pull it off since he's still a physical powerhouse who could just outspeed you anyway. Meleoron's invis and Knov's scream would've been a successful assassination so Togashi had to write Knov out of the assault.