So Goku put his faith into Gohan last week, will this be his time to shine??
So his name is officially confirmed to be Mojito
Reminder that Goku's name is "Gokou"
Beerus is "Beers"
Buu is "Boo"
Mr. Satan real name is "Mark"
17 and 18 names are "Lapis" and "Lazuli"
and nobody knows Turtle Hermit's name, same about his sister
Sure, there are definite differences between the anime and manga version. The gems, the eyes and the ears look slightly different. The problem isn't the 'design' though. The quality of the art in the manga is just way higher than the anime.
Does anyone feel like Gero should have 19's pants and vice versa?
What's up with this shitty writing?
Let's do some fact check:
U7 has beaten U6! and that's a fact.
Beerus is stronger than Champa, and that's a fact
Zeno observed the whole Tournament between U6 and U7 and he saw how it ended, and that's a fact.
Now how is U6 is ranked higher than U7?
>Toei shills are gonna defends this
Rankings are based on personality, motives, background and overall character. Edgy faggots like Android 17/18 and dumb muscle heads like Broly are shit tier.
Way to completely miss the point.
The manga version isn't better because of the minute changes in design. The manga version is better because the manga has better art on the whole.
And that's not the point of the initial post I made.
Not only is the art way better, those little design issues make the poor quality art not only look bad but "off model" in comparison.
Really? I don't see how the changes to the gems and the ears make any real difference. The only change I can kind of understand mattering is the eyes.
The manga design looks way more like Frieza. Is that why you prefer it?
>Now how is U6 is ranked higher than U7
It's pretty obvious they are misleading us on purpose. Mortal Level is NOT linked to the power of the gods or the top fighters.
If you think about it U6 seems to be more in order. Monkeys are peaceful, their Freeza race is twisted but not genocidal, Hit is an assassin and don't mess around just to get better fights like Goku. U6 is probably "better" to live than U7 and that's why the Mortal Level is higher.
U7 is shit because a new powerful assholes is destroying stuff every saturday and the good guys are abusing time travel and dragonball powers.
U9 is literraly being torn apart by pack of wolves.
But I think there's something else nobody understand. The omnigod did NOT choose to destroy losing universes because of Goku, I'm under the impression he was going to destroy ALL universes (except the 4) anyway. The tournament is just a last chance for the 8 others to prove themselves.
Murata>>Toriyama and Toyotaro
He should be drawing DBS
If you have 10 people each with the power level of 20, their average is 20. Now if you have 10 people, 5 with the power level of 30 and 5 with the power level of 2, their average is 16. Even though the second group has 5 people stronger than anyone in the first group, the 5 weaker people bring the average down.
The page count keeps increasing, soon I hope Toyotaro will have enough space to do full pages spreads.
We do understand that. But an higher average should, normally, also produce higher "anomalies" and therefore better top fighters.
Anyway, the 4 universes with top mortal level looks weak as fuck so it might be something completly different.
Should I story time?
>just to mock the Toeishills who claim Goku never had empathy
Pretty sure even Toei shills know that's bullshit, they just don't want to admit it. Instead they rather delude themselves with those shitty theories overthinking Toei's writing.
You know what key moment I remember vividly in the DBZ series? When Gohan was fighting Super Buu and SB got so frustrated from finally tasting defeat that for a brief moment he started talking "calmly" and in complete sentences. I remember him looking pretty fucking lethal too. That moment gave me goosebumps.
It's probably to prevent half the contestants from getting wiped out instantly by some huge indiscriminate attack, or to prevent a boring ending where some cheeky fucker with a special ability ganks everyone before they even have a chance to figure out how to defend themselves (same as Hit would have done in the U6vsU7 if killing had been allowed).
Man dragon ball super brings back great memories. Every episode is fun to watch to me. I didn't really watch the battle of the gods arc and seen some zamasu eps. But the new intro got me hyped and back.
Depending on how sparsely populated a universe is and whether the average is being calculated as just a snapshot or an over-time curve, the "average" could vary wildly in a short amount of time.
In the span of like 60 years in U7 you had an entire race of laser-shooting space warriors (Saiyans) and an entire galactic coalition of laser-shooting space warriors (Frieza Force) almost completely wiped from existence.
Basically if Frieza had been slightly less of an asshole it's reasonable to assume U7's current mortal average could actually have been way higher.
Bottom Right, sampling this poster would be ideal.
Most recent episode when they all gasp at the fact that it's a 80 man battle royale.
It seemed to me like that was just the recurring theme of earth fighters have the apparently unusual ability to not constantly broadcast their power level. That's been a thing all the way back to the beginning of Z when Vegeta and Raditz were pissing themselves because their scouters weren't giving accurate reads.
It's the most used one in modern Toriyama art (except with DBS and last two movies). One of those is canon even if we don't know which one
Agree here. Also blue haired Gotenks would look like shit
>all the memes about Ayy Lmao being part of a hero team that does poses like the Ginyu Force and sees Goku as a menace turned out to be true
>a life they must protect
>implying other Universes don't have newly borns they must also protect
>in before Toriyama/Toei autistically write the other Universes into not having children and therefore not having anything to protect so we don't feel bad for them
>Only U7 and possibly U6 have children
>Other Universe inhabitants just pop out of fucking thin air because that's how shit works for Toriyama universes that don't need to be developed. They don't have character development, backstories or histories they just happen.
>tournament begins in just 40 minutes
>this is why the team picking choices are rushed as fuck with krillin and roshi
gather the "strongest" warriors from their respective universes they said or rather pick "the fasted guys you can find and hope for the best."
What's your point faggot? Just because all the other universes don't wanna get destroyed doesn't mean U7 doesn't wanna get destroyed either.
Besides, any normal person would care about, you know, the characters from U7 as they've followed them for years and years. Why the fuck do you care about a ton of nameless nobodies who don't even have names or even fucking designs yet?
>a life they must protect
>this fucker probably has a litter of puppies that he got dragged away from that he wants to protect
They just are.
It looks like the tournament will be shitty.
Fucking scenaristics shorcuts.
> 80 man Battle Royal
> 40 mn to choose warriors
Why are they so much in a hurry and skip things?
You know you can get your hands on credit/textless edits of the intro right?
I forgot where I found the original but this is the first link I found now on youtube, don't mind the different track.
Now watch as all the DB youtubers like Geekdom in the need to rush for a video to get the (You)s will make the 40 mins mistake
Thank you Herms
>inb4 it turns out Herms fucked up again and it's 40 days and not hours
>lol j/k it's actually only 40 seconds your time's up
And he always makes a mistake in his rush to get translations out because he's not fluent in Japanese, which results in many keks to be had because all the youtube niggers and neckbears who have 0% Japanese literacy don't check for themselves because they can't and make a video about it, then refuse to retract them.
The biggest mistake he made was saying there was no reward for the winning universe, but in reality the fine print was that the winning contestant gets a wish.
Geekdom had no clue and made a video assuming there was no reward.
Usually the best bet for a translation is to wait for some anon to post the actual Japanese leaks here, and wait and see if another anon who actually understands moonspeak here to translate it.
Given #1 it depends on whoever can be bothered to post it here, and it has to be in time with #2 a moonspeaker who can be bothered to translate being around.
I remember when the names were released and all the spics put all the improperly mistranslated names next to the GoDs and it became "semi-official" within the community until
Isomeone who spoke Japanese pointed out half of them were wrong and they still didn't fix it and got angry at being called wrong
Basic unimaginative mindsets, usually powerlevelfags and ragetransformations / asspullaholics mixed in with a bit of edgelording sprinkled with a dash of zenkai.
Quite often encompassing all that's wrong with most of the Western fanbase when it comes to Dragonball.
Jiren (orenji) is most likely named after a fruit given Toriyama's naming schemes, though he's already done fruits in terms of Freeza's mooks.
jikai doragon booru supa: motto utsukushi na osshiri ga mittandaze - zettee mite-kure yo na!
>protagainists die of old age in the hyperbolic asspull chamber out of abusing it, nobody notices because Saiyan bodies don't age
>why aren't they coming out?
>oh shit guys time's up what do we do?
>OH FUCK GUYS
Bra is canon though.
How many asspull cards has Dragonball racked up over the years anyway?
>The Earth Dragonballs
>Every single one of Gohan's ragebaby outbursts including SSJ2
>Dende can heal
>Guru unlocking potential
Super Saiyan is let off the hook because there's build up to it.
>Hyperbolic Time Chamber
>Earth Dragonballs being upgrade to allow for more bullshit
>Goku and Vegita reaching SSJ2 via posession and / or timeskip
>SSJ3 in its entirety
>Kibito can heal
>Elder Kai unlocking potential
>Buu can heal
>Cell / Buu needs to be vaporized in order to be defeated / Plot states that Buu must job
>Earth powered Spirit Bomb
>Whis can turn back time
>Whis' staff that can create another special time and space to train in
>Super Saiyan Blue
>Super Saiyan Rose
>Super Dragon Balls
>Spirit Bomb Sword
What would happen if the characters got too smart and were to use all of these Deus ex machina AT THE SAME TIME?
Children being inexplicably stronger depending on how strong their parents were when they were conceived.
>KAKAROT LET'S TRAIN AND SIMULTANEOUSLY FUCK OUR WIVES IN THE HYPERBOLIC TIME CHAMBER WE'LL CREATE AN ARMY OF INFANT SUPER SAIYANS WITH GOD KI BEFORE THE TOURNAMENT, MAKE SURE TO BRING THE DRAGONBALLS AND SENZU BEANS. WE CAN WISH FOR STUPID SHIT LIKE MORE SENZU BEANS WHEN THE DRAGONBALLS KEEP GIVING US MORE WISHES IN A SHORT AMOUNT OF TIME IN THE HYPERBOLIC TIME CHAMBER, BRING NAMEK'S WHILST YOU'RE AT IT THEY REGEN 3 TIMES FASTER.
The Battle Royale is Goku, Vegeta and 8 half Saiyans with God Ki who have known nothing but fighting all their lives that we've never heard of.
Pretty sure most if not all those things on the list are canonic asspulls that if other anons mentioned in this thread, were used at the same time if the characters didn't have perpetual plot induced stupidty, would break storytelling completely.
Goku's muscles can't grow out of nowhere, I've always thought some Super Saiyan forms (and even Kaio Ken etcetera) convert energy into body mass, which is to say, they have to have a fuckton of energy. Some others, like SSG, apparently turn mass into energy. I always liked to think about that.
Beerus asks how on earth they managed to find 8 other fighters they've never heard of with God ki, all looking vaguely similar to Goku and or Vegeta.
Whis knows, he just looks on in disgust.
Episode 85 summary according to db-z.com:
"Son Goku goes to the palace of god to ask Dende where C-17 is. Meanwhile, all the Kaioshins of the Universes who participate in the "Power Tournament" gather in the Universe 11 ..
Shin is about to get bullied.
>Meanwhile, all the Kaioshins of the Universes who participate in the "Power Tournament" gather in the Universe 11 ..
Time for U7 reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee.
I seriously hope someone calls them out of their bullshit. All they are doing is looking for a scapegoat.
Can anyone translate plz
Episode 84 and 85 summaries are out.
Finally a episode with all the Kais perfect. Rou is gonna shit talk all of them and their failures which means we will know more about their history
>everyone starts antagonizing U7
>especially Ea, who looked very angry at Goku in the episode
>Shin tries to frantically defend Goku
>suddenly Gowasu steps in
>he explains everything that happened in the previous arc with a sad look on his face
>he says how it was Goku who brought over the second Zeno
>now everyone hates Goku even more and Shin can't even try to defend him
>It's no wonder their universe is such a shit with him as the Kai and the GoD being a pussy beta faggot.
>Kai is an immoral greedy piece of shit
>Their god of destruction is a fucking pussy and doesn't do his job as DESTROYER to clean up the trash from the universe
No wonder their mortal index is the lowest
Why is he so butthurt? If he didn't want his universe erased he should've done a better job
>angel is a stoner who doesn't give a fuck and probably hardly trains Sidra
You have the right idea about muh 1vs1 but muh honor is nowhere close to the reason.
>I hope either Vegeta or Goku gets knocked out early because they refuse to fight with their team and want MUH SAIYAN PRIDE 1v1 instead and just get gangbanged by a full team and thrown out
Fixed your post.
Yeah, Jiren has got to be Ayy's name.
It's also in katakana, so it's a foreign word, likely a pun. Do you think Universe 11's ningen'll have an overarching pun? Toppo could easily be "top". What would "Jiren" be? Ge-ren. Ge-len. Gi-ren. Gi-len.
Can't think of it.
As the "tournament of power" that you cannot afford to lose begins, the second child between Bulma and Vegeta is born. With another life to protect, Goku needs help from more than just his immediate members. Needing all the help he can get he goes to Krillin and 18's (未妻?) home.
SCOUTMAN SON GOKU
KRILLIN AND #18 ARE INVITED
As we approach the "Tournament of Power" that can not be lost at all costs, Vegeta and Bulma's second child has been born, and they have one more thing they have to protect, with Goku in charge of choosing the participants. For this, Goku goes to Krillin and #18's house.
Zamasu was right all along. If other kais killed off most of their ningen their average mortal power level wouldn't be so low
If Gowasu and the elephant god did a better job, zamasu would have a much better opinion about the ningens and wouldn't rebelled.
Zamasu's blood is in Gowasu's hand and now he knows it.
Ningen doesn't mean mortal.
Even Zamasu was mortal until he made the wish.
It's all about the status and responsibilities. If you're officially(in the eyes of Zeno) responsible for the creation or destruction of life, you're a god. If not, you're ningen. The whole mortal mistranslation is bullshit.
Man we need some GoD lore
I think we'll get it solely because a member of the same race as Beerus and Champa is the U11 team, which will prompt the gang to ask Beerus where he came from
We need some lore or backstory on the responsible GoDs who aren't easily angered or selfish fucks like Beerus and Champa. Would be pretty sweet if U1, U12, U5, U8 were a combination of benevolent and downright harsh GoDs that still did their jobs correctly.
>when your universe was the first one to be advanced enough to do time-travelling and cause the first time-line split
I'm still waiting for a good character who isn't a complete fuckface from one of the other Universes. So far we've just gotten autistically uninspired and poorly written characters that are only given more meat to their personalities through fan speculation and headcanons.
I hope we at least get one or two GoD or Kai who's not a retard easily swayed by the obvious bullshit of a furry. No wonder their universes are on the line of getting destroyed too if they are so gullible and emotional.
Congratulations on missing the point. Beerus called him out of his shit. Even Whis who's neutral as fuck mentioned his bullshit and how he was setting up Goku as the fall guy.
It wouldn't be Dragonball if Goku didn't make allies and friendly rivalries with opponents from other Universes. U9 obviously have it out for Goku so they're out of the picture. U11 are probably going to be hellbent on seeing U7 as the villains.
Would love to see U6 stand up for U7, or even someone from the other Universes smart enough to figure shit out by themselves and realize Goku is just a retard, and that not everyone from U7 is horrible.
Would love to see Smugpup side against U9's Trio de Chucklefucks trying to gang up on U7 and singlehandedly fuck them up, Furry on Furry hate is always great to sit back and watch.
>Would love to see U6 stand up for U7, or even someone from the other Universes smart enough to figure shit out by themselves and realize Goku is just a retard, and that not everyone from U7 is horrible.
Even Champa didn't straight-up call Goku out of anything when the other universes asked him about Goku. He just said he's a weird guy with tons of power.
>I would love to see it though because Goku is causing so many problems right now.
Oh no wonder you are so stupid as to even consider that, you are a goku is evil memester retard.
> Goku is evil memester retard
> never mentions Goku as being evil even once
I said he's causing problems, not that hes evil. Goku is just being either deliberately obtuse, or hyper focused to the point of obliviousness.
Keep up anon.
Tell me again why Goku should care about other universes. They are not his universe.
>b-but he should care about other people lives!
Yeah, tell that to the other universes who also won't give a flying fuck about other universes but his own.
At least Goku will have the decency of restoring them with the Super Dragon Balls. Can you say the same of the other universes?
>Anato, Oguma, Iru, Agu, Iwen, Arak, Liquir and Geen
>U2 Kaioshin, Ea, Kuru, U6 Kaioshin, Shin, Rou, Gowasu, Kai, Jerez, Mosco, Quitela, Champa, Beerus, Sidra, Rumoosh and Vermoud
Really makes you think. The multiverse truly deserve being erased
>Yeah, tell that to the other universes who also won't give a flying fuck about other universes but his own.
You mean like the furry that tried to convince Zeno not to destroy the Universes?
It doesn't matter if those universes are morally upstanding because every universe is powerless to stop it. Unless the Super Dragon Balls can wish both Zenos out of existence without any terrible repercussions they're shit out of luck.
>You mean like the furry than in his hubris of thinking he could defeat Goku and with nothing to lose because his universe is already dead last made a request to Zen-o just to cover his own ass and then just in case made Goku the fall guy when Goku has literally no fault and his suggestion for the tournament is the only reason his universe still has a chance of survival so that in case he loses all the other universes would go for U7 instead of his for being the weakest
That you think Bergamo is morally righteous is hilarious. You fell for his manipulation hook ,line and sinker like all those other retarded GoDs and Kaio-Shins. There's a reason their shithole universe is dead last.
The multiple sets of Dragonballs (with different powerscaling) has always been a bit of a plothole.
I mean what's stopping the protags from just simply using the Namekian dragonballs to wish the Super Dragonballs to their location and making their godwish?
Will we ever get a true omnipotent being in dragon ball besides comic relief toribot?
Also 4 manga/anime characters who could beat zeno.
>Namekian dragonballs to wish the Super Dragonballs to their location and making their godwish
Dragon balls can't do things above their power. SDB are in another level.
You mean that messing up with Zen-O, and Goku reminding him of the Tournament of Power, is the only reason all the other universes have a chance of survival instead of a insta-nuke out of nowhere? Truly Goku is a hero.
Guys, my uncle works for Toei and he said destruction of universes is just a bluff. Goku asked Zeno to say that so fighters would fight their best. That's why killing of defeated warriors is forbidden and that's why Goku acted so cocky towards other gods.
Trunks is fuckable with any hair, but I agree that he was hot as fuck with long hair.
Irrelevant to the point. Be it one year later or thousand years later Zen-O would still nuke everything out of nowhere. Even if Goku's suggestion for the tourney accelerated the decision it still gives universe a chance for survival now rather than NONE OF THEM be it one year later, a thousand years later or a million years later.
Goku turns evil after winning the tournament as suggested by the red ki and goes home to earth and starts the "goku games" vegeta attempts to kill a crazed goku but gohan has to step in and kill goku.
Nah, he wouldn't. Zeno doesn't give a shit about the multiverse. He just came up with this tournament shit because he thought it'd be fun and he even forgot about it pretty quickly.
And Goku making it now will let one universe still be after those few thousand years.
Had Goku not done anything then there wouldn't be not even one surviving universe in those few thousand years.
The survival of one universe > the survival of none
Trunks just needs to work on producing and training a lot of descendants, so in a few thousand years there will be a lot of strong people to fight in the tournament and save the universe.
Tell me again when Goku was the one who told Zen-O "Hey Zen-O you should destroy a few universes, you know, for the kicks".
Unless you can prove that Goku has no fault on Zen-O's decision of wiping out the universes.
get started now to write that fanfic to make it feel real for yourself
>no matter what you can always rely on goku not paying heed to warnings no matter how big
Spoken like a Toei shill
Guys, my uncle works for Dragon Ball Super and told me about the arcs that will happen after the Tournament of Power!
>Goku punching strong guys in the other universes that weren't included in the tournament
>Grand Priest's rebellion
>the true Supreme Being shows up, a deity beyond Zeno
>a story set in the future about adult Goten and Trunks being the new guardians of the world
Ok you samefags, let's see what the ratio of /a/ is when it comes to opinions on Goku.
>no matter what
>I remember the anime goku more than the manga one
>oh no my only weakness
>toei's shit writing
Became a decision between these two.
>Goku is a fight autist and sociopath, he would rather have a good fight and does not grasp the concept of responsibility or endangering lives.
>All of it is shitty autistic writing and a complete mess. I have no faith in Toriyama. Toyotaro or Toei.
Woo. Almost thought that this would be a choice. I'm not expecting Goku to be anywhere near as bad in the manga so I went with the first.
>implying Cell wont unlock the power of both Golden and Rose and defeat Buu with a pinky
Starting to think the laser shit in RoF was Toei's doing.
I didn't mean much when I said "no matter what" and forgot some moments here and there
and what's so nice about my pedaling btw?
/a/'s meltdown when the leaks came in were fucking splendid.
Goku jobbing to a mere laser
Vegeta getting his long awaited moment stolen
Gohan getting one punched
The memes were glorious those were the days.
>I want to ride her like a Harley.
>Toryiama wrote the entirety of RoF.
Yeah but Toei probably made changes like not including the mercenaries Freeza hired and if DBS is anything to go by his outline for RoF might have been very vague.