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This is Arthur Pendragon(male)
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where is manaka
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Took them long enough
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>>154330849
This is my wife (male)
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>>154331211
>Archer
>Dual Magnums/Pistols/Chuuni Guns
Has this meme gone too far?
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>>154330849
>Frilly sleeves
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>>154330849
Already have the superior regular saber. But I don't play that grindfest anymorez Just glad I never spent any money on it.
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>>154330849
>FGO
>>>/out/
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>>154331223
Excellent taste.
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>>154331255
Just because you're a man doesn't mean you don't have to look good.
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>>154331271
FGO fags are superior to the Extella fags /a/ regularly attracts though.

Let them fight.
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>>154330849
Fate would have been better if it stuck with this.
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scientists are still baffled
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>>154331383
>>154330849
I can't fucking wait for Hollywood to be so creatively bankrupt that they make 7 movies about ancient heroes and then ala avengers do a Fate/Prototype movie starring each hero as a particular Servant.
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>>154331453
nothing wrong with absorbing mana from a comrade
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>>154331383
Replace the girl with Shirou and make it a bromance with gay undertones.
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>>154331267
>Already have the superior regular saber.
This is the superior verison though. Regular saber a shit. She's been kinda shit for years.
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Why dont came with Brunhild.
I every stay.
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>>154331676
>Why dont came with Brunhild.
Its White Day in Japan, which is males day. Which is why all the CE's and gatcha at the moment are male only.

No shit.
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Yaoi girls .
It bad Culture.
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>>154331255
Otome hero design
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>>154330849
I ironically like Arthur more than Arthuria.
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>>154331383
>>154331383
It's a shame Nasu is too afraid to make anything that isn't otaku pandering waifubait.
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>>154331885
I don't think too many of us are being ironic when we saw we've burned out on Arthuria years ago and something about her just feels shitty at this point. The only ones who typically rate her the highest are secondaries who have only seen the anime or something, or people that just vote for main heroine up top no matter what.

Whatever quality she had at one point has been eroded by endless clones and being kinda boring or badly written route in the first place. There's just a dozen clones that each fill a certain niche, and all of them make her feel like less of a character in the first place. Not that she really feels like much of one anyway lately.

Its like she's a character with cool shit around her, you want to see more of that stuff, but she herself is not that cool. She's got her moments, but also they've ruined it years ago and the more they try to shove her down our throats harder the more I can't like it anymore.

Male Arthur feels like his own thing at least, you can see in prototype he's not the same character. He's boring as well, but he's not burned out yet at least.
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Anime when
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>>154331959
Kill yourself, fujoshit.
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Later coming?
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>>154331986
Saber in FSN or FZ is a legit character, and she's not bad, the problem is when you make her cheap as fuck by clonning and milking non-stop like Nasu does.
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>>154332089
Sakura clones feel like vastly different characters, so its hard to associate them at all and they can't change anything about the original one in feeling. They' all have their own trait and feeling foremost. Even if they're silly, they are at least original characters in feeling.

Rin clones as well, they've got their own shit going on, they don't draw to the original entirely. You don't entirely associate them.

Arthuria clones feel like fuck ups, because its like "What if Arthuria, except if she appealed to this fetish instead. And was slightly different". they innately do associate with the original one each time. It feels like there's a few problems with them that impact upon the original or feel cheaper.
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>>154330849
Does FGO have a gaijin mode yet or is everything still in nip?
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>>154331959
And make something that's otaku pandering fujobait?
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>>154331255
You're just jealous because you know you could never make it work
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>>154330849
Richard>>>>>>>>>>>>Proto!Arthur

I can't wait for them to dd Strange Fake servants to the roosters.
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>>154332371
At this point there's too much dialogue to translate so they'll never get around to it, especially when it's keeping itself more than afloat just fine with JP money only.
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>>154331211
Emiya Kuro
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>>154331290
There is literally no Extellafag who is not also a braindead GOfag, I refuse to believe that.
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>>154332500
>there's too much dialogue to translate so they'll never get around to it
Yet virtually the entire game has been translated independently.

I'm sure it's quite possible for some publisher to release an English version if they actually wanted to do so.
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>>154331211
>you'll never go super hero so hard that when a turbo slut fucks you over you'll get BLACKED
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>>154332371
Nasu hates gaijin and doesn't want it translated, and they probably don't think they can make enough money to make it worthwhile when no one knows about Fate.
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>>154332571
Just how Yen Press does it? Give it up, anon. Official works will always work at a snail's pace than fanworks becasue they have to put a lot of work in the things they do. To make a Gaijin mode not only would they have to translate the dialogue but also code the entire thing to be fir for it and that is more work than anyone is willing to put.
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>>154332562
Is it really that bad to enjoy F/GO? Waifufaggotry aside a lot of this characters and concepts would never have seen the light of day if it weren't for the game giving Nasu free reign to give them life. They'd be kept away int he confines of his mind because there isn't enough Spin-off to give them a proper story.

King Hassan, Moriarty, Hessian Lobo, Solomon, I can't honestly see him using them in any other story without taking years upon years to complete it.
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>>154330849
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y9h5CJz-gR4
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>>154331211
EMIYA (Alter) should have been like this instead of being black.
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>>154331211
>Make a ton of good waifu designs
>Struck gold with Papa Bones
>Then this shit
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>>154333130
We had the most dapper Archer and the Headless Wolfman in the same gatcha so I can't complain too much honestly.
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>>154332719
Yes, and he would have done a much better work in all those years, without any of the cancer GO brought about. It was actually a crime to waste perfectly good characters and ideas on a mobage that is largely a shitstain. Reconsider your priorities if you feel like defending it.
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>>154332623
I had no intention of saying that it will happen; I was simply saying that it could happen.
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>>154333301
>claiming that Solomon and his plot was wasted in GO
Fuck you. He's the best male character in the entire franchise. Gil is the second best, of course - but there's a sizeable gap between them
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>>154330849
does he have a masculine vagina
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>>154331736
>That Enkidu
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>>154333416
Absolute garbage taste, sasuga GOfag.
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>>154333504
Read the VN, then watched the adaptations, then read Zero, then watched Zero, then read HA, then read SF (LN), then read SF (manga), then *read* all the text of GO; I've never played it. Don't give me shit about being a "GOfag".
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>>154333504
>not liking the broest magician of all time
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>>154333583
>inb4 'muh merlin'-posting
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>>154333661
Fuck off merlinfags.
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>>154331211
But does he belive in gravity?
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>>154333565
In other words, your opinion on wether the character was wasted on the medium is 100% meaningless because you never even experienced the pile of trash of a game we're talking about, and only took the"good parts" out of it.
Why did you bother replying again?
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>>154333784
That was essentially what I said.
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>>154333848
>you ... only took the"good parts" out of it.
What part of "all the text" is so difficult to understand?

I have watched the game as well, if that is the answer you sought. These things were not concurrent, but that is inconsequential.
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>>154331691
Holy shit shota iskandar looks badass.
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>>154333868
"All the text" is not FGO.
Reading all dialogue in a videogame is not playing it.
This might be a concept too hard for you to comprehend though.
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>>154333902
Yet again, you seem to have not read the actual entirety of my post. How odd.
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>>154331489
That's still better than the other option.

Keep Saber as a girl, but give her the personality of a typical western female lead.
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>>154331736
>That enkidu

Fucking hell.
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>>154333933
Watching a videogame is not playing it either.
And even if you consider it equivalent, if you have actually "watched" all of FGO, including all events and all of the trashcan-tier Servant designs and concepts, and still appreciate it and don't think it was a waste for some good characters to be mixed with that shit, then you are a bona-fide GOfag, which is exactly the point you were arguing against.
Sweet logic error nigger.
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>>154334042
You created the logic error on your own by building a path which you insist must be my perspective.

The dichotomy is 'appreciate or not appreciate', not 'appreciate or dislike'. And there is no reason or need to find only one way to view the entire work as a unit, especially under the terms 'appreciate' and 'dislike'. I *acknowledge* all of Fate: Grand Order as a unit; any further word on the work understood as a whole is inane. I do not appreciate Grand Order's portrayal of a female Oda Nobunaga. Yet, I also find no egregious fault in the depiction of the Grand Time Temple chapter. I dislike Ishtar, yet I appreciate Babylonia-era Gilgamesh. I acknowledge the work.

I shall liken this to the original VN. I don't particularly care for mollusks. But I like Ea. I despise the cooking and school segments more than anything else that I have ever read. But I enjoy Cu's character. I acknowledge the work.

By my eyes, there is nothing wrong with something good existing alongside something bad. I do not find that it is a "waste" for the story of Solomon and Goetia to be told in Grand Order. I find that it is what happened and acknowledge it, instead of complaining about the unknowable.
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>>154334428
So, you accept it as OK for those parts to coexist, and liken the slower sections of FSN to the bottomless shitpits of FGO.
100% a GOfag.
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>>154334494
To liken is not to equivocate, puppet.
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>>154334586
Yes.
One is an integral, if sloppily written part of its work.
The other is nothing but a detriment that only cheapens the experience.
GOfag.
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I'm still waiting for my boy Achilles
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>>154333901
I think it's Rama.
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>>154330849
Gawain, why are you cosplaying as your king?
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>>154335674
He is Arthur's nephew after all.
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He kind of sucks though. At least his animations look nice.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Il3jj9KsqBo

>Proto Merlin voiced by Kawasumi
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>>154332500
Mate, if cygames could translate GBF, which has a metric shitton of text then Sony could translate fucking FGO.
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>>154331211
Gay Archer is here now.
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>>154333033
>Keys
We already have Kotomine Shirou
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>>154333033
How does Alter equate to "dress like Kotomine"?
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>>154331211
Is this a jojo reference?
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>>154331736
I want to fuck Enkidu
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>>154330849
Will Sakurai ever marry Ayako?
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>>154331211
WE
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6X4C_gNcs_c
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>>154333901
Wrong redheaded shota.
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>>154331211
priest here ask me anything
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>>154335961
I think it's less a matter of "they can't" and more of a matter of "they really don't see any reason to"
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>>154333848
What's your major issue with it? It sound like it killed your parents.
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>>154335961
>GBF, which has a metric shitton of text
I'm pretty sure FGO has surpassed GBF in word count by now. Maybe a few times over, even. There's a lot of text, and a lot of the text uses terminology and references that require knowledge of other TM works to fully grasp. It's a lot of work.
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What went wrong?
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>>154339231
The gacha happened.
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>>154332623
Zecchan is the cutest.
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>>154339231
>Good day Mrs.
>Your Son calls me mommy too.
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>>154339231
She wants to please uncle Moriarty, not crossdressing bullshit with Alters.
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>>154339212
It's a gacha mobage primarily targeted to waifufags, but also tries to tell a serious story and mess with universe-level lore that other fans actually care about.
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>>154339819
>tries to tell a serious story and mess with universe-level lore that other fans actually care about.
It seems to do a pretty good job at it, thought? The Goetia fight and the Babylon chapter where fucking good, and the fact that they've finally found their footing and made the battle system in each chapter different so that the boss fights don't feel too easy and samey makes them all the more fun.

>It's a gacha mobage primarily targeted to waifufags
I get why you'd think this but the roosters i pretty evenly split with 76 female servants, 81 male servants and three traps. The current event is geared towards a female audience too so it's not like the primary audience is all male otakus, and even if that were the case the story is good so it's not much of an issue. The original F/SN was an eroge so it's not like the intention of a work has any bearing of the story's quality.
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>>154340112
Fucking hell man, when I say waifufagging you can include husbandofagging, fujos and everything else there. Pandering to those people and having a great part of the content in the game centered around that.
FSN was an eroge but the h-scenes were not proeminent in any way.
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>>154340524
Neither are they in F/GO. I don't mean eroge scenes because it has none but the pandering has no bearing in the story, hell, the latest chapter has no waifus as new servants.
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>>154340606
The "game" is still a waifu gacha mobage, regardless of what the story ended up as.
Also the chapter has no new waifus but goes hard for the fujobux, big fucking difference.
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>>154331959
>Plain, "normal" self-insert girl
>Surrounded by nothing but handsome loyal adonises
>Main adonis is the typical shoujo prince

This'd be otaku pandering otomeshit and you know it.
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>>154340792
>The "game" is still a waifu gacha mobage
The same way F/SN was just an eroge, why do you try to pretend it never was?

>Also the chapter has no new waifus but goes hard for the fujobux, big fucking difference.
If they wanted those fujobux they'd have advertized the chapter with the male protagonist instead of the female one, literally the only servant that could maybe be considered fujo bait is Shinjuku Assassin. The event right now is the fujo bait and it's not even related to the story.
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>>154340792
>The "game" is still a waifu r-18 eroge, regardless of what the story ended up as
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Kawaii desu.
They've created a male cuter than its own female version.
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Why is Kuro so unsexy?
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>>154335674
Wasn't Gawain the one who posed as King for Arturia?
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>>154331211
A fucking nigger
JUST
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>>154341406
Because she's a slut version of worst girl.
It doesn't get worse than that.
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>>154330849
King Arthur isn't supposed to be man, this is outrageous. I'm enraged now.
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Husbando > Waifu
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>>154332462
Strange Fake anime when? Grand Order, Extra, and Apocrypha are all getting some.
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>>154341626
Embrace him.
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>Arthur calling Mordred cute

CONFIRMED
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>>154341925
>>154342088
my husbando>your husbando

>>154342042
I would hope that it will get some after Apo but it might not be any time soon considering that both Extra and Apocrypha are finished works whereas Narita already said he has a few volumes to be done.
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Reminder that if you say "Nasu should have gone with Male Arthur" you are LITERALLY an idiot. By every account, from popularity polls to merchandise, to BD sales, to the spin-off animes, Takeuchi's idea to gender bend King Arthur was the smartest idea in the history of Type Moon
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>>154342134
Regardless of your stance on Arthuria yeah it's hard to admit it wasn't a great move business wise.
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>>154340934
>>154341036
Eroge is nothing but a category.
Waifu gacha mobage represents the true intent of focus of the game, the reason for its low quality standarts, as well as a good part of its content.
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>>154342252
Anon, you can try as much as you can to try and pretend eroge is anything other than eroge but the trut of the matte is that it's a porn game done with the intent to appease horny otakus, even if a story is good the sex scenes are there for a reason.
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>>154342426
It's bait to get people to buy the game.
Unlike h-scenes, the waifufaggotry in FGO is a major focus of it, and a huge part of why a lot of its fanbase even plays it at all.
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>>154342108
INCEST
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>>154342526
It's a focus of the events to get people to play the game, the main story has hardly any waifu faggotry.


>and a huge part of why a lot of its fanbase even plays it at all.
Are you somehow trying to imply that the thing that drew most people to F/SN wasn't waifu faggotry? Because the hundreds of millions of Arthuria merchandise might disagree with you.

This has always been a waifu franchise, anon, ever since the very first moment Takeuchi deigned Saber and used it as the face of the franchise.
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>>154342579
It's not incest since Arturia is the father, not Arthur.

Besides, FSN Mordred is a cute son(daughter) who just wants father's approval, while Prototype Mordred is a yandere son who wants father to dick him and love only him
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>>154331211
lol
niggers
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>>154342654
It panders to both bases though.
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>>154342654
Yeah, but now it's on mobile with a gacha system and that's a worse crime than being a pedophile serial killer
Why? Shut up GOfag
Seriously, I don't understand why fans of other entries of the franchise hate Grand Order so much. I don't see how being a mobile game with a gacha system is much worse than, say, being an overpriced VN or LN and putting out tons of overpriced merchandise
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>>154342654
Oh fuck off, a VN with waifus is not even close to a waifu mobile game.
Tons of people have gotten into Fate for chuunishit. Or as a continuation of FZ. Or just because it's renowned as one of the most classic VNs.
You can't say the same about GO garbage, of which the main appeal has and will always be for autists with nothing better to do, who want to grind a mobile game daily to make a team of their favorite waifus/husbandos, or just pay real money for whatever satisfaction that brings them.
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>>154343024
But the people that got into fate for chunnishit are still into F/GO for chunnishit, same with the people that got into F/SN through FZ. Because the games has their favorite servants and make a team of your favorite servants and send them into battle is a fun experience. Fighting Beast II using a team of Iskandar, El Meloi and Merlin will always be a cool thing to picture and a lot of people who play the game do so becasue it's easy to enjoy the chunnishit in account that you can make your own chunni build of servants. The reason why the game got so huge is because you can enjoy it the way you want, if it's the mechanics that bother you then that's fine but don't try to pretend it's other things.
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>>154343259
I've always said it's because it's a waifu gacha mobage, that has no business telling a proper story mixed in with so much garbage, didn't I?
That is very much the "mechanics" (as well as the entire business model), and I've never claimed otherwise, have I?
>el-melloi "posessed" by a real servant
Don't fucking remind me, jesus christ.
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>>154343476
Servants possessing humans as a vessel was a thing since Apocrypha, I don't know why you act like GO invented it.
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>>154343519
Apocrypha is bad.
Also the girl she posessed there was very similar to Jeanne herself, who is an original design anyway. Not the lazy cop-out of GO trash.
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>>154343476
That doesn't even happen in F/GO that's a Case Files thing you autist.
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>>154339231
The stronger she gets the more of a nigress she becomes. FGO was a mistake. Either that or she is a Black Albino like her male counterpart.
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>>154343602
>Also the girl she posessed there was very similar to Jeanne herself
You mean like how Zhuge Liang and Lord El-Melloi II are described to be very similar?

Just because Apocrypha is bad it doesn't instantly take away the ideas it added to the franchise.
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>>154343604
>Zhuge Liang
Damn, so you don't know Case Files OR GO, huh.

>>154343663
Jesus fucking Christ, how do you delude yourself this badly?
No one cares who some random literally who Jeanne posessed looked like, it's fine for her design to be the same.
Zhuge Liang is a proper heroic spirit, and they just went with "lol he looked like Waver, kinda" to re-use designs and bring in fan favorites. Fuck off, I don't even want to discuss with someone who would unironically defend something like that.
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>>154343614
>F/GO releases a black servant
>"f/go is a mistake!"
That's fucking racist
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>>154343761
It's just a mobile game calm down.
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>>154343811
It's irredeemable fucking shit.
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>>154343829
Why are you in a thread about it then?
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>>154343765
>Missing the point
Making a japanese ginger kid into a black kid is whats making people lose it.
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>>154343761
Autism.
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>>154343863
>missing the sarcasm
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>>154343761
>Damn, so you don't know Case Files OR GO, huh.
Zhuge Liang will poses Waver in Case Files. What are you even on about? It's not something that F/GO suddenly came up with.
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>>154343663
>British magic professor
>Chinese military genius
>similar
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>>154343859
See >>154331290
People were talking about the most cancerous parts of the Fate fanbase and I replied, then someone asked me why I didn't like FGO and ite went from there.
Am I not allowed to be in here? I have nothing better to do with my time.
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>>154343964
Because you're a retard trashing GO for waifu pandering when that's what the franchise has been doing since it's infancy.
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>>154343829
>>154343964

Anon, I'm gonna be blunt with you here, I'm enjoying this a lot, I enjoy the game and I enjoy you keeping yourself away from enjoyment simply becasue the existence of a harmless mobile game seems to drain the joy out of your day. So even tho I enjoy the game and the franchise and the story and the servants I am now gonna play this game solely to spite you.
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>>154342132
Best Boy!
Man I like that Saber but I wish Narita gave him a different NP instead of the Excalibur copy.
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>>154343964
Anon, I love this franchise but it's been pretty cancerous since it's inception. Hollow Ataraxia is pure waifu pandering to the point that it even has an Illiya date route and it's only one year older than the original VN.
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>>154343940
I don't think so, what volume? I distinctly remember when the game started and people were wondering why the fuck Waver was a Servant, until stuff got translated.

>>154344005
There used to be a good quality level for the waifus (in both character and design), and it was not as overbearing as most shit in FGO. Nor did it resort to such blatantly jewish tactics.
Zero/HA were the last genuinely great original content to come out of this. GO is where the franchise just went down the drain for good.

>>154344023
Good for you. Now stop posting Shirobako, that anime is too good for shit-eating faggot like you to get to enjoy.
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>>154344060
He's got at least two.
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>>154343964
The problem is that everything you shit on GO and Extella for has been done by the franchise since it fucking existed
A gacha mobage isn't any worse than an overpriced VN or anime BDs. Because VNs ARE expensive as fuck in Japan.
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>>154344060
I used to be indifferent about his NP until I saw him pick up a stick an excaliblast with it, which was pretty damn hype for me. I also enjoy his other NP because it's literally "the true NP was the friends we made along the way"
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>>154344145
Yes, yes it is. And it was never done to the same degree, or with the same awful disregard for quality in character design.
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>>154344176
>to the same degree
I don't think you understand how expensive VNs and anime are in Japan
>awful disregard for quality in character design
Purely subjective
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>>154344134
>I don't think so, what volume?
During one of the events the classified the servants in different groups and one of those groups was "servants introduced in F/GO" that El Melloi didn't form part of, that plus other tidbits from here and there and people started speculating that El Melloi will fuse with Zhuge Liang somewhere along the way in Case Files since it's never properly explained in GO.
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>>154344176
>awful disregard for quality in character design
Prisma Illya is only three years younger than F/SN, anon. It even came three years before Extra. Whatever you're trying to pretend this franchise is, it's never been. Just let it go.
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>>154331556
I'm sold
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>>154344134
Too bad, anon. Not only did I enjoyed it but I loved it and rewatch it occasionally. What're you gonna do about it?
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It would have been hilarious if Saber was revealed to have a dick in the Fate route during the Berserker mana charging scene.
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>>154344266
Fucking kek, yeah man, I do believe pic related, the new EMIYA, the pirate sluts, etc are perfectly great character design, and totally on par with Saber and Archer. From MY point of view of course, which is purely subjective, and that means no one can say TM's regard for making original and interesting Servants is fucking gone!
A VN is as expensive as a full game when brand new, iirc. That's not particularly jewish considering the playtime you get out of most of them, and sure as hell not more than a gacha system. Overpriced, maybe, but most things are. The difference is that you pay once, and you know exactly what you're getting.

>>154344270
Oh, so it's some shitty speculation that hasn't actually happened, and even if it did it'd certainly be because it appeared in FGO first, huh?
You realize that was most likely because they're treating "Zhuge Liang" as just Waver, because that's literally what he fucking is.
That said, nice job coming up with a surefire way to ruin the future of Case Files, if that were to happen.

>>154344405
Most of the Prisma designs are stolen straight from the early Fate stuff. Do you really have a problem with Myuu or Kuro? The corrupted Servants?
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>>154344533
>pic related
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>>154344137
I know

>>154344165
I'm fine with Richie's other NP but I'm still not fond of his Excalibur replica since we already have the Round Knights who have different variations of Excaliburs.
That doesn't matter anyway since Richie already prove himself to me that he's not an Arthur 2.0. His interactions with Ayaka is the best.
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>>154344533
>>154344561
>my opinions are fact
You're worse than the otakus you hate so much
You're just cancer angry because the world doesn't work the way you want it to. You're no better than the triggered SJWs trying to ban things because they don't like them and those things hurt their feelings
Sorry, but yes, the issues you have with character design are purely subjective
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>>154344561
That design is pretty good
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>>154344569
I get what you mean, excaliblast variations do get old after a while but I guess there wasn't that many ways to put him on the same level than the other servants of the SnowField War. Agreed on his relationship with Ayaka his interactions with her is what sold me on him the most.
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>>154344654
Bruh.
You can't honestly be claiming that. Subjective to a blind person, maybe.
Their quality control for new Servants is about as tight as a whore birthing her 5th son.

>>154344676
>average GOfag.jpg
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>>154344737
I don't even play GO but okay.
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>>154344533
>Do you really have a problem with Myuu or Kuro
Considering how much your sperging about waifufaggory and shitty designs I am genuinely fucking shocked you don't see anything wrong with Kuro's design. If you really don't you've lost every ounce of credibility you had in judging character designs.
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>>154344737
It IS a fact that the quality of character design is subjective. What objective problems do you have?
Realism? Because female king arthur and blonde white Gilgamesh aren't realistic or loyal to the myths at all.
Too much fanservice? Shirtless Gil from HA isn't fanservice? Medusa isn't fanservice?
Seriously, there's 0 objective issues you can bring up
At least, admit you're stating opinions and not facts.
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>>154331777
I want Bedivere to fuck my girl hole (male)
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>>154344812
She's a slutty loli with a cool fighting style. Prisma Illya has always been pretty fanfiction-tier, so it doesn't really clash with the rest of it. Mainly cause you know, they didn't try to bring in Nasu so he could write for a fucking magical spin-off and make it some grandiose masterpiece. It's set in its own parallel worlds, and the design fits within the confines of that.

Also the design is not a literal fucking recolor, nor does it have garbage art style.
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>>154344704
Narita could've just use a crusader themed NP for Richie to use desu.
I fucking hate his Excalibur replica because that makes him look like another Round Knight.
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>>154345017
>nor does it have garbage art style
That's debatable
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>>154342088
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>>154344918
It's a discussion image board, I'm pretty sure it's written somewhere around here that you should never take anything written here as fact, of course everything's an opinion. Is this actually your first day?
That's all I've said all along, GOfags are willing and eager shit-eaters with garbage "opinions", since they fully accept all the cancer shoved down their throat with a smile. They either never actually liked the good things about Fate when there were any, or are deluded enough to think any of that is still present in GO.
Good day.
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>>154345017
>>154345017
>She's a slutty loli with a cool fighting style.
That is the worst fucking character description I've heard in my entire life. I am genuinely fucking baffled that despite all your autistic cries regarding waifu pandering you're okay with what is literally the worst character in that already bad spin-of, how you think you have the right to judge anyone's tastes is beyond me.
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>>154345206
>it's all muh opinion
>still will shit on you and spout my personal theory about you
Kill yourself, cancer. And stop trying to force people to accept your garbage "opinions"
See? I can do it, too
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>>154345030
I think he did it to be misleading, using a Crusader NP would've been too much of a give away in his first appearance and the point was to make everyone thing that Arthur (male) had somehow been summoned.
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>>154345333
We're discussing designs famalam. Prisma Illya is bad, Kuro is not a particularly good character. But fucking hell, she's still far better designed and has more personality than 90% of FGO trash. It's actually baffling how awful those OC donutsteels are.

>>154345382
>babby's first online discussion
Go ahead.
Nothing will ever be as cancerous as GOfags though, no matter how much you want to believe you're not.
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>>154345488
>But fucking hell, she's still far better designed and has more personality than 90% of FGO trash.
>It's actually baffling how awful those OC donutsteels are.
She's just a brown Illya in a slutty version of Archer's clothes
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>>154345572
Lore-wise she is an Illya clone, but her design is pretty fucking different.
It fits and doesn't feel out of place, that's the whole point. You just can't say that about the hotpot of shit and diarrhea that is FGO designs.
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>>154345631
Post some bad FGO designs then
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>>154345679
>>154344533
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>>154345488
You're easily more cancerous than GOfags with your childish crying about people having different opinions and liking what you don't like
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>>154345389
That doesn't make sense since Richard looks nothing like Arthur aside from his blonde hair and he revealed his name to Ayaka after they broke out of prison.
I feel like Narita went Lazy on him, sad because Richie is such a good character. His edge, joy, charisma, and confidence is balanced out well.
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>>154345756
B-but it's shit.
Sorry, I know, I just get my autism triggered by seeing people talk about this shit like it should be acceptable.
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>>154345712
Can you name some more that are obviously shit.
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Will Arthur be a better father for Mordred than Arturia or did his Mordred traumatize him?
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>>154345792
I love the balance he he has. The Enkidou fight although short was pretty nice and I can't wait for him to actually go toe to toe with someone, I think he'll be pretty active in the oncoming Alcides fight since it seems like that might be a boss rush.
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>>154345817
And why shouldn't it? Because it's a form of entertainment you disagree with? You sound exactly like the cancerous SJWs. You hate it? Too bad. You've no right to decide what people shoud and shouldn't enjoy.
>muh discussion
It stops being a discussion when you start throwing insults and resorting to "it's shit because I say so, you should be blind to not see it".
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>>154346099
He calls the dumb girl in the tin can cute, and that's already a more casual compliment than Artoria ever gave Mordred.
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>>154345488
>she's still far better designed and has more personality than 90% of FGO trash. It's actually baffling how awful those OC donutsteels are.
Her personality is literally slutty Illya, she's fucking loli bait m8. And her design is fucking trash, name 5 design that are worse than hers because hers is pretty bottom of the barrel tier.
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>>154346017
Have a looksie
http://fategrandorder.wikia.com/wiki/Servant_List

Honestly I'm getting a little lazy, but it's basically every single one of the "HS posessing a character from a good part of the franchise" (there's a lot now), Boobyca, Caesar, nearly all Saberfaces (there's a metric fuckton now), Okita and Nobunaga being treated as serious/"real" Servants, and pointless genderbends like Musashi/Atilla/Ushiwakamaru/etc.
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>>154346269
>Okita and Nobunaga being treated as serious/"real" Servants
They're still joke servants, they were part of the april fools gatcha.

>HS posessing a character from a good part of the franchise" (there's a lot now)
There's Two

>nearly all Saberfaces (there's a metric fuckton now)
I'll give you the saberfaces.

>genderbends
I agree that they're pretty pointless but given that Musashi isn't the real Musahi and her design is actually good I don't mind her.
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>>154346320
>>154346320
>Oh, it's fine if they enjoy it.
It's obviously not if you feel the need to shitpost given how you can just hide the threads. You're not even shitposting cuz you're not throwing any particularly inflammatory opinions, you're quite literally just whining.
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>>154346238
Mordred isn't dumb!
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>>154346257
Atilla
Kerrytugu (edge)
EMIYA (nignog)
Pirate sluts
Queen's Blade
Artoria Pendragon (Lancer Alter) (Santa Lilly) (Ultimax) X ( Dancing All Night) Z

>>154346401
Sorry, by the "posessed" people I also meant to include everyone who already had a design before but became a Servant exclusively for FGO becuase fanservice LMAO (Shiki was also in Extra I guess)

Waver
Rin
Taiga
Shiki
Iri
Kiritsugu (oh wait, that's not the same lol)
Speculated Kirei soon
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>>154346320
>blaming GOfags because of your own autistic choice to come to these threads and shitpost (your own words here)
Holy shit, kill yourself. Nobody is pointing a fucking gun to your head or holding your family hostage and forcing you to post in these threads, you know?. You can even hide them
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>>154346525
>queen's blade
Who do you mean by this?
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>>154346269
>"HS posessing a character from a good part of the franchise" (there's a lot now)
There's exactly three, and Jaguarman barely even counts because this is the first time in forever Taiga has gotten to do virtually anything relevant. You may as well complain that Shiki is in the game.

As for the Saberfaces, they're evenly split between ones that predate GO and ones that don't, and most of them are more alternate versions of Arturia anyway.
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>>154346493
Oh gee, thanks. Someone considers me above shitposting.
So yeah, I'm just whining to pass the time because I really hate this, that's it.

>>154346532
B-but senpai, if I filtered "arthur pendragon" I might miss out on a legitimate Fate thread next time!
Please make sure to explicitly state FGO in the title, thank you!
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>>154346559
Boudicca
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>>154346514
Merlin singled out Mordred as being the only true moron among all the knights of the Round Table.
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>>154331211
>nigger
>trigger discipline
?????????????????????????????
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>>154346525
wow 13 servants out of 160, that's a huge mayority. No wonder you're so anal ravaged about it.
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>>154346563
>>154346525
Oh I forgot Illya and Kuro too I suppose.
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>>154346651
>m-my cool mobage ONLY introduced 13 lumps of clustered cancer to the franchise, s-stop hating pls!!
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>>154346729
Pathetic.
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>>154330849
DiS Iz aRfuR PindArg0n (mAil)
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>>154346794
Hahaha, funny post.
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>>154346729
>>154346729
>this buffet with 160 dishes has 13 dishes I don't like, that means the entire buffet is shit.
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>>154346953
I think there's some other food analogy where a drop of some nasty shit in a nice food completely spoils it. Except in this example, as long as FGO is completely ignored, at least the rest of the franchise is mostly fine. You just gotta sacrifice the FGO part entirely.
So, that.

>>154346968
Who's Kaneda, Tetsuo?
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>>154331211
Nice way to get replies faggot
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>>154347052
I don't think it works that well as a single food analogy since the other parts of the franchise also have things that people like and dislike, like how some people dislike the SoL part of HA but like the plot and vice-versa, most people that read Apo just like the characters since the plot is shit and even the original F/SN is a bit divisive do to the three routes having different things to draw people in. It's hard to think of them as homogenic entities when they can be dissected in so many parts for people to enjoy.
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>>154333902
>>>/v/
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>>154347262
The thing is that Apo is pretty damn isolated, so you can "quarantine" it if you don't like it.
GO is so fucking connected to literally everything, and most of it sucks ass. It's to the point where it's better to pretend it never existed. Fucked up the franchise hard for me.

>>154347308
I know, it's a shame, Kamakura-sama! Wish I could go punch Nasu in the face, but alas...

>>154347326
FGO is a videogame. A trashy one, but one nonetheless.
If you're complaining, complain about all the people talking about it on the anime and manga board.
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>>154344448
Haha, yeah
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>>154346514
>"Mordred, however, is an idiot."
>-Merlin
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>>154347518
>GO is so fucking connected to literally everything
I don't think it's connected to everything but more like everything it's connected to GO. Grand Order is supposed to be the nexus of fate and as such it's bound to reference every other bit of the lore. So far I haven't really seen any spin-off actually reference Grand Order, most of them stick to referencing the 5th Grail War in one way or the other honestly.
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>>154347938
Melty Blood manga is connected to GO after Nasu told the writer to disregard the actual plot and focus on GO
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>>154347938
There's that director as a loli in Case Files, and something in Melty Blood manga I think. Also True Berserker in SF is probably Edison.
Really though, a gacha mobage is the "nexus of the Nasuverse", what a shitshow.
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>>154331211
Got that revitaligo.
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>>154347998
>>154348104
I completely forgot about the Melty Blood manga.

>true Berserker in SF is probably Edison.
It's literally the only person it could be

>Really though, a gacha mobage is the "nexus of the Nasuverse", what a shitshow.
Fucking sweet, ain't it? I can't wait for what comes next given the Goetia fight was nice in all the right places.
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Why is there so much autism in these threads always? Its no like fate franchise wasnt in decline before go came, so the mobage is just extending that decadence
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>>154348264
>Why is there so much autism in these threads always?
Fate has always been a pretty autistic franchise, wormslut has always been a thread derailer and powerlevels have always been a 200 reply thing. It just switched focus to other things, anon, the autism stayed the same.
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>>154348259
It's fucking shit.
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>>154348350
It's not even worth the derails now though, franchise has gone to shit.
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>>154348775
I really think it was the UBW anime that did this threads in, during it it was impossible to have a decent thread and it didn't have enough time to recover for F/GO shitposting.
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>>154348264
You know how Fate fans can be really elitist, and categorize themselves into "primaries" who read the original VN and "secondaries" who either played one of the console games or just watched the anime? And "secondaries" typically think "primaries" are a really annoying bunch, and just wanna like/dislike the game they played or the anime they watched? And "primaries" like to criticize "secondaries" for not fully grasping all of the details or the context of the media?

The thing that happened with GO is that, a bunch of the people who could previously boast about their superior insight into the Fate franchise now find themselves completely out of the loop. They don't know what's going on in the franchise anymore. You could say that the primaries have become secondaries.
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>>154349035
Nice pasta.
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>>154349035
>GOfags
>implying it's difficult at all to stay "in the loop" with all the new lore, even for EOPs
The game is constantly getting translated and summarized. It's just not worth it because most people are into mobage, and reading translations outside of the game is not very fun.
You're the only elitist here.
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>>154349290
>most people are not into mobage
is what I meant
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>>154349322
>>most people are not into mobage
Anon, if that were the case it wouldn't be making bank so fucking fast.
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>>154349290
I'm not saying it's difficult to stay in the know about what's current, I'm saying a lot of people feel alienated from what's going on with the franchise because of the mobage.
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>>154349501
That's the nipponese though.
He was talking about the issues of the decadence of the western fanbase.

>>154349509
Well, no shit, the main complaint is that it went into mobage territory.
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>>154349035
>>154349501
I keep saying this.

FSN is Warcraft.

FGO is WoW.

Transition into a new genre that brings in old people, and alienates and confuses old fans. Some convert, some don't.
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>>154349956
Brings in new people, I mean.
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>>154349956
That is a good analogy
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>>154349956
Everyone converted in Japan its just /a/
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>>154331211
When did Emiya become Lucian
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>>154350736
When he meet Kiara
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>>154330849
>Proto Arthur in GO
Well shit, now I want to see a version of F/SN and Fate/Zero with him. The Arthur vs Lancelot fight alone would be priceless:
>you fucked my wife
>I thought you were a woman!
>you fucked my wife because you thought I was a woman?!
>y-yeah
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>>154331211
What the FUCK happened?
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>>154350608
What was the discussion about, nigger.
If you're not going to read the fucking thread, at least read the chain of posts you're replying to.
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>>154350806
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>>154350847
Proto Arthur cheated on his wife because his sister disguised herself as Merlin(female) and seduced him
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>>154350885
He slaughtered some cultists and then went full-retard mode.
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>>154350936
>Merlin(female)
Would totally be worth it, besides I was going off the hypothetical scenario where Arthur replaces Arturia in the Grail Wars but not in the their past lives which is where Lancelot's "I thought you were a woman" comes in.
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>>154330849
That's not Ky Kiske
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>>154351393
No one said it was.
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>>154350936
Did he still get cucked?
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>>154351782
Yes
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>>154351872
Excellent.
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I hope Prototype will get a full anime or a VN someday. I need more Misaya.
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>>154352138
Have you read Proto Fragments.
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>>154352420
No. It seems interesting, but I've heard it's not very good.
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>>154352535
It's pretty average, but if you want some loli Misaya, that's where you'll get it.
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>>154352535
It has free hugs and kisses Hassan so it's all good in my book
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>>154352535
It's a mixed bag. It's good enough, that you should have a look at it if you're interested. And it's bad enough, that you can drop it partway through and not feel guilty about it.
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>>154352138
Wasn't Misaya an incredibly shitty and incompetent master?
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>>154352644
>>154352773
>>154352794
I'll check it out. Thanks.
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>>154352815
She's described as a prodigal genius, she's ranked second in the hierarchy of masters participating in the war, she hails from one of the greatest magus bloodlines in the Far East, and so on.

She hurt her chances of winning, by going out of her way to keep her Servant in check. That's got more to do with her fairly well-founded trust issues, not so much with incompetence. Never mind that winning was impossible in the first place, unbeknownst to her.
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>>154352815
For a Master she was pretty high tier. She was just so far up her own noble and elegant ass that she wouldn't let Cu use Gay Bulge since that would make everything too easy.
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>>154353056
So she just had Gil levels of overconfidence. I can definitely see what all the fuss is all about.
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>>154353056
>that would make everything too easy.
It turned out she was preemptively guarding her ass against betrayal.
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>>154353138
I like most Type Moon girls, but Taiga has always been in a tier of her own.
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>>154353154
Which is silly in retrospect, since Cu liked her anyways.
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>>154353138
It wasn't overconfidence. Last time she hung out with a servant, it ended up with her losing a parent and getting cursed to die a slow death. It made her a little wary of servants. So when she was to summon a servant of her own, she deliberately picked one who she thought would have good reason to respect and fear her, and then she put his NP under lock and key for the sake of guaranteeing her own security and her servant's obedience.
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>>154353242
Fuji-nee tier has always been an EX class tier that I'm always happy to see people appreciate.
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>>154343761
>looked like Waver
But thats wrong.
Zhugeliang needed a vessel to be properly summoned for some reason, and Waver was the chosen vessel.
What happens next is that Zhugeliang determined that Waver has the right skills and knowledge to help save the world in the Grand Order, and so he left his powers with Waver(who is now a servant) and fucked off.
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>>154353267
The last servant she knew also liked her, but that still didn't turn out well.
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>>154346642
It's because his hands can't reach the ridiculous gun's triggers.
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>Arthur releases half the seals on Excalibur Proto in his NP animation
It seems we will never see the full power of it.
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>>154336057
Alter has equated to style for a long while now.
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>>154353730
No, no it hasn't.
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Uncle and nephew.
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>>154354083
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>>154354083
>sweep the leg
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>>154331736
>>154333471
>>154334012

That arm though
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>>154346525
>Atilla
Is fine after Extella completed her storyline.
>Kerrytugu (edge)
Is pretty much called noncanon by the game itself
>EMIYA (nignog)
Isn't that bad really, it's just funny to pretend it's some heinous thing
>Pirate sluts
Are drawn terribly but otherwise fine
>Queen's Blade
Only legitimately bad design, looks like a bargain-bin eroge character
>Artoria Pendragon (Lancer Alter) (Santa Lilly) (Ultimax) X ( Dancing All Night) Z
I'm assuming you mean MHX and MHX Alter who are literally joke characters, did Neco-Arc enrage you like this too?
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>>154355333
>this level of denial
>EMIYA nig "isn't that bad"
>it's "pretty much" noncanon so it's okay if it's terrible (the entirety of GO should receive this treatment)
>"otherwise fine", when we're literally just discussing design
And no, I mean every god-forsaken new saberface, especially the ridiculous balloon tits with Korean MMO-looking armor, and the incredibly excessive Alters. As if using all those (subtitles) wasn't obvious enough.

With that said, you do realize that it's irrelevant to argue wether they're "that bad" in your eyes, because the only point that post was trying to make was that GO contains several designs worse than Kuro from Prisma Illya.
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>>154356046
>EMIYA nig "isn't that bad"
It's not really. His lips look goofy, but other than that, what is there? You just want to complain. And it's fun to complain, sure. Dance to the meme theme.
>it's "pretty much" noncanon so it's okay if it's terrible
Too bad F/GO's very canon.
>"otherwise fine", when we're literally just discussing design
Their designs are fine, it's just the actual artist that's bad and gave them broken-shit anatomy.
>And no, I mean every god-forsaken new saberface
They're not bad at all.
>especially the ridiculous balloon tits with Korean MMO-looking armor
Those are actually pretty great designs. Showing Artoria grown up and her battle armor is cool.
>and the incredibly excessive Alters
There's not really that many.
>the only point that post was trying to make was that GO contains several designs worse than Kuro from Prisma Illya.
Even of those, the only ones I'd think are worse would be Boudicca and MHX Alter (who is very deliberately silly). EMIYA Alter is about the same level, which is to say, it's not really bad, but it's not good either. But apparently things cannot be mediocre in your world. There is only glorious golden goodness and horrendous shit.
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>>154356335
It's appallingly terrible. Why is he a different race? Why did does he gain cannals of piss over his skin in later stages? In what state is your mind to defend this atrocity?

Bruh, you are the one who said Kiritsugu Servant was "pretty much noncanon". Are you purposedly going against your own argument?

Fucking news flash: a body's anatomy is part of its design. Who would've thought. And no, even if the art was better, they are the blandest, most uncreative shit. No more than 3 minutes was putting into creating every element of their "design". Boudicca level of bad.

"Grown up Saber" is good in concept, the final products look goofy as fuck instead of actually regal and powerful. Especially Alter.

>Kuro is on the level of EMIYA Alter
Yeah, I'm not arguing with someone this far gone. Gacha addiction does things to your brain, man.
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>>154356561
>Why is he a different race? Why did does he gain cannals of piss over his skin in later stages?
Magic
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>>154356561
>Why is he a different race?
It's just a more a more severe degree of the same condition which made Archer tan. Overuse of magic affected his pigmentation. You should know that from the VN.
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>>154356561
>Why is he a different race
He isn't. He just burnt hinself.
>Why does he gain canals of piss over skin in later stages
Symbolism for him being repaired since he's broken
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>>154356561
>Why is he a different race?
He isn't
>Why did does he gain cannals of piss over his skin in later stages?
It's magic gold
>Bruh, you are the one who said Kiritsugu Servant was "pretty much noncanon". Are you purposedly going against your own argument?
His profile says he's a dream servant only here for the Grand Orders, not "real"
>Fucking news flash: a body's anatomy is part of its design
No, design is design, and how it's depicted is an interpretation of the design
>And no, even if the art was better, they are the blandest, most uncreative shit. No more than 3 minutes was putting into creating every element of their "design".
Fundamentally I'd disagree from Anne's scars alone.
>"Grown up Saber" is good in concept, the final products look goofy as fuck instead of actually regal and powerful. Especially Alter.
This is simply something we can't reconcile. I like the draconic armors. They DO look fierce and powerful to me.
>Gacha addiction does things to your brain, man.
I don't even play F/GO I'm just commenting on designs. It's a garbage game.
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>>154356809
>>154356812
Why the lips tho?

>Symbolism for him being repaired since he's broken
Damn, that' real sad and deep. Through the affection of the bland no personality self-insert protagonist, even this man finds happiness... now I truly feel sorry for complaining about how fucking terrible it looks.
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>>154356561
>It's appallingly terrible. Why is he a different race?

You seen Shirou's hair?

You know what they say about the Irish.
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>>154356943
>Why the lips tho?
It's the one part of his design that stands out, and it's strange, sure, but other than that it's a pretty alright design.
But continue dancing to the song of the meme.
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>>154357006
How is it alright? Even if didn't have the lips, it's literally an edgier EMIYA who got more burned and is more of an asshole. And he uses guns because you know, they're cool and edgy. And fucking "Unlimited Lost Works".
Jesus christ, it's pure trash.
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>>154356943
Lips are just bad art. I believe the artist admitted he did a shabby job.
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>>154356943
What's it like to have autism?
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>>154357006
Not that guy, but come on. It is kind of fucking weird.

Like, Archer was kind of a stretch, admittedly, but there were attempts. Shirou and him both had the same eyebrows, their colors were inversions of each other, their hair, if you put it either up or down for them, you can kind of see a resemblance.

EMIYA Alter though? That's just a fucking black guy. Nothing particularly wrong with that, look at Michael Jackson, only kind of in reverse.

But yeah, Shirou just kind of grows up to be a black dude.
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>>154357090
I wouldn't know.
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>>154332462
William Marshall >>>>>>>>> Richard the Lionheart
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>>154357071
>it's literally an edgier EMIYA who got more burned and is more of an asshole
That's pretty much how Alters work, yeah.
Edgy EMIYA is fine. You groan at "edginess" because you cannot stop dancing to the meme. Understand that "edgy" is not a negative attribute, it's an aesthetic that isn't intrinsically good or bad.
But you're so fucking addled from internet usage that you think it does mean bad, and so edgy things can't be approved of in any degree, because the meme has shaped you so.
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>>154330849
He looks a little bit like Oscar from Berseria.
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>>154331959
I dunno, it's still better than doing landwhale or fujo pandering.
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>>154357150
Man, you sure have a superior analytical mind, to be able to see past the power of memes.
No dude, there's a point where you cross a line and edginess goes from sad/interesting to plain silly. You're not smarter for "accepting" brainless edgy remakes of characters.
There is nothing to this character, he has a vague as fuck backstory and accomplishes nothing that Archer didn't already do 100 times better, with lots of caratherization and proper build-up, and without resorting to Coldsteel-tier "pls feel bad for this guy" bullshit.
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>>154357258
So now you're judging him based on your preconceptions of a story that literally hasn't been told yet instead of the design.
Because your complaint of the design is that it is edgy, but only now do you realize that "edgy" does not equal "bad".
I don't think I'm intelligent for grasping the structure of that meme, but I do think you're an imbecile for not realizing how far your argument has moved.
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>>154357330
Oh wait are you the same guy who said Kuro and nigger Emiya are on the same level? If so sorry, I almost forgot
>Yeah, I'm not arguing with someone this far gone. Gacha addiction does things to your brain, man.
Good night.
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>>154356943
To be fair, FGO pretty much is the best way for broken servants to be "repaired".
Rama was reunited with Sita, even if it was very briefly.
Gorgon Medusa can meet her elder sisters once again.
Asterios met someone who calls him by his name as opposed to "Minotaur".

The Emiya family is together for once, albeit with different continuity versions of each member.
Kiritsugu got to be a hero and save the world, ironically after he became a counter guardian and summoned to Salomon.
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>>154356943
>tfw he's alright without the nigger lips
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>>154357221
But that's literally fujo Arthur in the OP. His rival wants to enslave and rape him and his bastard son wants to monopolize him.
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>>154357407
>Kiritsugu got to be a hero and save the world, ironically after he became a counter guardian
B-but that's "pretty much" noncanon, right?
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>>154357617
Considering MHX was part of that series of scenes, yeah.
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>>154331211
Has Nasu finally gone too far?
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>>154357565
Well, it's also landwhale(Otome) Arthur version in the OP.
He has some stupid reason to fall for the 5/10 girl that doesn't even have an outstanding personality or some sort of appealing trait. Not good enough for him to actually want to fuck her, but we are supposed to bieleve he will have some remantic story with her.
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>>154358502
I love how in Protoypes he's all charmed by her for no reason and in F/SF she's the one that ends up wanting Richard's D.
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Would you let Arthur(Male) suck you off, but you have to be his Master and fight in the 5th HGW
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>>154330849
More fuckable than Saber.
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>>154330849
So what's his actual story? Who is he in relation to Artoria? An alternate history?
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>>154358848
from what his trial quest says he's literally the Artur from the Prototype war that's jumping from reality to reality because the Beast 666 from the Proto universe is bound to manifest in another reality than he's own. He says that since your (our) Arturia is a woman then he doesn't really exist in our history of the world.
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>>154358848
>So what's his actual story?
You mean his personal history from before he wound up dying at the root of a tree? Pretty much the same as Artoria, sans having the part about her having to hide her gender.
>Who is he in relation to Artoria? An alternate history?
Alternate timeline. Multiverse stuff. King Arthur from a world where King Arthur was a dude.
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>>154337088
WUZ
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>>154358848
Its not too hard to understand. There are infinite universes; the Arthuria you know isn't the main one, she's just one of many possibilities, there's no main. A King Arthur that lines up with history as we know it is also a possibility. Along with a hundred other possibilities like a kaliedescope.

Arthur is literally just from a world where King Arthur is a male, but is the same soul and has basically the same story. It only differs on a few points. Such as Merlin being a girl in his world as well.

Fate/Prototype is a story of fujo pandering, all the servants are hot guys.
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>>154358997
>Fate/Prototype is a story of fujo pandering, all the servants are hot guys.
Gilgamesh and Cu have much better design than Night.
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>>154359080
Cu? yes, Gil? nah. Gil might look more Babylonian but he doesn't feel as regal in my opinion.
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>>154358952
>>154358960
>>154358997
Was just wondering if they'd justify his existence at all, like how Proto Cu is young-Cuchulainn-just-after-training
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>>154331383
>>154331959
This.
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>>154358676
It kind of breaks his charachter to fall in love with some piss girl that still didn't get all her hair.
I mean, he's supposed to be the king of britain, the man that got so much pussy he could drown in it. He alread got married, and had a son out of marriage, it's not like he never saw a girl.
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>>154359155
>like how Proto Cu is young-Cuchulainn-just-after-training
Nah, Proto Cu is also just alt world Cu as well. But there's basically no real difference except he's a bit younger.

Basically, this was the original draft of FSN, before they decided to change MC's gender, and ended up changing Arthur's gender as well to match. Which is why it's called Fate Prototype. A lot of the ideas present are a lot more grounded in a way, but its also basically Twilight, kinda like Tsukihime.
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>>154359196
>the man that got so much pussy he could drown in it
King Arthur went his entire life trying to be celibate, the only time he got laid was with Morgause after Morgan le Fay hit him with an enchantment. He knew of a prophecy that he'd be slain by his son's hand. It's why Guenevere becomes unfaithful, the man would not smash for the world.
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>>154332571
Those independent translations have zero quality control or consistency with each other and range for "pretty good" to "sphinx yawn".
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>>154359196
That's what I'm saying, in F/SF she's with her becasue he feel guilty about dragging her into a grail war, it's Ayaka that ends up falling for him. The mate's jus' there for a laff.
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>>154359216
>Nah, Proto Cu is also just alt world Cu as well. But there's basically no real difference except he's a bit younger.
F/GO's profile on Proto Cu says he's the same person with the same true name. He's just "younger in mind and body" and Scathach is closer to his heart since he's summoned from closer to his days in training. He's 100% compatible with Stay Night Cu.
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>>154359263
Have you never read an official translation before? "Pretty good" is what they aspire to reach, but never do.
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>>154331211
RASEN KAIDAN
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>>154358997
It's otome pandering that ends in a reverse harem.
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>>154359318
>F/GO's profile on Proto Cu says he's the same person with the same true name.
Gilgamesh and Gilgamesh Prototype are the "same person" with the same true name, but they're also alt world versions of each other that are basically the same but different.

Arthur and Arthuria are also basically the same, but in this case there's a notable way to say how their lives diverged. Cu and Cu have the same true name, but they're also very slightly alt world versions of each other. But there's also basically no difference at all.

Its not like they'd have different true names in the first place, but they can still be slightly alt. Just like Shirou and Shirou.
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>>154359432
cu and gilgamesh have different personality, but not that much difference.

Arthur and Arthuria have entirely different personality. She's a stiff who regret being king, He's a lot more friendly and playful and took the duty of being king in stride.
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>>154359432
>Gilgamesh and Gilgamesh Prototype are the "same person" with the same true name
We don't have Proto Gil in F/GO so I don't know why you're assuming that.
>but they're also alt world versions of each other that are basically the same but different.
And Proto Cu isn't. He's the same person. His profile says so. He's just from a different point in time.
Stay Night Cu = adult Cu who killed Ferdiad and Connla, a little more reserved and negative
Proto Cu = young Cu who's still wandering Ireland killing monsters.

The relationship between the two is more like Archer Gil and Caster Gil more than Archer Gil and Proto Gil.
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>>154359122
But Fate Gil in no way resembles the Gilgamesh from The Epic of Gilgamesh.
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>>154359690
How about now?
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>>154359690
t. someone who's never read the epic
Reminder that the Epic describes Gilgamesh and Enkidu as being incredibly beautiful in a way that sumerians only use to describe women. They were bishounens to the max.

>but muh bearded man statue
Did you know that relief was made in Dur-Sharrukin about 1500 years after Uruk fell? And we don't even know whether it's meant to be Gilgamesh or Enkidu?
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>>154359122
They'll probably say Proto Gil is Gil from right before he met Enkidu and was going around raping other guys wives, since that's basically what he's trying to do in Prototype.
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>>154359429
I love Gilchan!
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>>154359863
He's got weird taste. Not like Ayaka isn't pretty, but Gil apparently got the idea that Ayaka without glasses is more beautiful than any of ancient Uruk's women. It's a bit strange.
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>>154359839
He needs a beard and some muscles.

>>154359847
>Gilgamesh and Enkidu as being incredibly beautiful in a way that sumerians only use to describe women.
Perhaps something was lost in the translation, but I did get that impression from Enkidu if only because of the dream where he was a rock.
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>>154359839
Ignoring the hooves, that's a cute Enkidu.
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>>154359946
Enkidu when he left the house of the prostitute was dressed in her clothes to see Gilgamesh. He wasn't really some giant of a bara.
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>>154330849
Mordred is cute! CUTE!
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>>154360043
Yeah got that Enkidu was pretty, I'm just saying I didn't get that vibe from Gilgamesh.
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>>154330849
Nice sense of style
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>>154360099
Too bad the only time she got to hug her dad was when he speared her.
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>>154360134
He was described as having great beauty and being the most handsome man in the world.
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>>154360099
Double dubs confirm, even Arthur agrees.
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>>154360201
Yeah, but I didn't realize that they were using the word for feminine beauty.
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>>154360099
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=42zVgRaCJTo
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>>154360166
Cripes, that drawing looks so bad.
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>>154360258
>Not wanting to fuck Enkidu
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>>154354083
Reminder Gawain is Modred's brother.
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>>154360405
>Shamhat looked like this
How many sacred marriages do you think Gil had with her after Enkidu was gone?
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All I want is one Fate installment without genderbending. Is that too much to ask?
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>>154360530
Not as many as he had with Enkidu.
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>>154360692
Literally Prototype and Proto Fragments.
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>>154360692
Fate/Prototype, wish granted. Go jack off to that and then realize that no genderbending doesn't actually make it better or worse, it doesn't really do anything. FSN had genderbending and its still remembered to this day.
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>>154360692
Fate/Strange Fake, not only does it have no genderbends or arturia faces but it's actually genuinely good.
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>>154360809
If only it were published at least fucking semi-regularly. And if only we got the raws.
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>>154360809
Although two of its servants are existinetal horrors now.
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>>154360809
richard is a bit of an arthur face
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>>154360809
Well, at we know now that True Assassin isn't the first Hassan. Still highly amused by True Caster

So True Lancer and Berserker haven't been revealed yet?
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>>154360914
Those are Rider and ???
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>>154360984
There is no True Lancer, it was replaced by extra class Watcher. Berserker is theorized to be Edison.
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>>154339231
Her smile and optimism is gone.

>Literally the last magus on earth.
>Saves the entire world by beating to death with their own bare hand the thing that killed humanity.
>Was literally Solomon's friend/apprentice who they trusted.
>Only gets the rank of Cause in the Mages Association.
Humanity was a mistake.
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>>154360995
Berserker. It is a person that isn't a person, a thing without memory yet ruled by its past. I mean most people at least have a name or a gender to help guide their understanding of self, and yet this Ripper has none of that.
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>>154360984
True Lancer doesn't quite exist at this point. It's complicated. True Berserker is probably Edison.
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>>154360883
why do you need raws? all three volumes have been fully translated already. I agree with the publishing tho, I need the next volume pronto after the way the last one ended. Narita has me by the balls with that preview.

>>154360914
Do you mean Pale Rider and Halcides or True Assassin cuz True Assassin is a suspense movie given physical form

>>154360984
There is no True Lancer, there's Watcher, Watcher's master is supposed to become True Lancer somehow
True Serker is Edison.
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>>154358848
It's not much different from Hakunon being a boy or a girl depending on the universe. He's King Arthur, just not the same King Arthur as Artoria; same legend and same role, but different person in a different universe.
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>>154361093
He has the name 'Jack', at least.

At any rate, none of that makes him an 'existential horror' - well, not in the way that fucking Disease/Pale Rider is an existential horror.
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>>154356561
>Bruh, you are the one who said Kiritsugu Servant was "pretty much noncanon". Are you purposedly going against your own argument?
Kerry is part of the AZO singularity that is straight up stated to be a one-off with no consequences outside itself.
Not all events are serious, and not all events are canon. Only the main story is 100% confirmed canon.

For what "canon" matters, anyways, considering parallel worlds.
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>Arthur is male

How do Brits feel about their only female king being genderbent?
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>>154361188
Its more in keeping with the philosophy of existentialism and less Lovecraftian. Yes Berserker would be a pretty lame horror movie monster, but that's not quite the same thing.
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>>154360984
I love how True Assassin only has presence concealment EX going for him and it still manages to make him intimidating and OP.
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>>154361149
I need the raws because I wish to check the quality of the translations. That, and I might be able to make a superior scanlation if someone makes a bad chapter of the manga.

The misspellings and sideways paragraphs and bad fonts are all extremely distracting to me; I should like to fix those things if I can. I can't do that if I'm not even given the opportunity (the raws). And I am [rightfully] doubtful that the people who released the chapters with those mistakes would go back to fix the errors themselves if I simply emailed them about it.
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>>154359350
That's not the point. Official translations have to meet at least "mediocre" everywhere, and that's hard.
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>>154361071
>>154361098
>>154361149
>Watcher
Shit, with a name like that, I expect it to be a class like Ruler, but it's not, is it?
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I know that GO triggers a lot of autists here but holy shit, this fucking thread
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>>154361093
Jack can do a lot of weird things because of his legend. With the "Jack was possessed by a cursed item" thing I wonder if he could possess a Servant.
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>>154361370
It's a really freaky class, the servant itself is yet to be seen but it's accompanied by some sort of "shades" of people from the past that talk to his master and tell him to do certain trials.
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>>154361370
Watcher is testing it's Master to see if they're worthy to become a living Lancer. Basically it's there to make them suffer.
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>>154361438
Have you read the preview from the next volume? Apparently his NP is the embodiment of the concept "to kill men"
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>>154361370
Watcher if summoned normally says his class would be gate-keeper. Enkidu makes some remark about the counter force when its summoned, its something that probably shouldn't have been summoned. It summoned itself in response to something that was about to happen apparently, something Sigma is about to summon.

Its like the world itself showed up and decided to observe the grail war. Zelretch, some divine spirit, and a few other major players in reality are all observing this war since something important is about to unfold. According to Watcher, it can't even lift a knife or fight, but its killed many things throughout history such as Orion, Icarus, and Ahab. Its perhaps a living concept of some sort, maybe representing hubris or some other abstract idea?

It takes the form of various things such as Ahab, Icarus, Orion, etc. Ahab if summoned normally says he could qualify as Avenger class.

The only note about Watcher so far is that he's an ace card for the war if used correctly, since he can observe everything in the war at once at all times as through from heaven or something.
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>>154361327
>Official translations have to meet at least "mediocre" everywhere
Not true. Look at Blame - Killy's name is written in the English alphabet on the *cover* of multiple volumes, but the 'official translation' is Kyrii. That alone should tell you that mediocrity is not the baseline. Moving beyond that - 'official translations' cannot be *repaired*. Nobody will purchase a second edition of a volume because you claim to have fixed all the mistakes that were present in the first one; that's a self-defeating proclamation.

Applying the theory to Grand Order: can you imagine what it would be like if the publishers changed the game text every few months to match their interpretation? Nobody would ever take it seriously, and everyone would continue to use the fan-written lines as opposed to the official version.
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>>154358984
ARCHERS
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>>154361525
>orion
so THAT'S who he was. I could place Ahab and Icarus in the description of the shades that appeared in front of Sigma but I couldn't make out who the third one was.
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>>154361616
>but I couldn't make out who the third one was.
It might not be Orion, it seems there's a lot more people in his shadow. I just listed the ones I remembered offhand
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>>154361525
>killed many things throughout history such as Orion, Icarus, and Ahab
That sounds like "hubris". Makes sense for a 'Watcher' position, actually.
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>>154361668
The other theories so far are those three watcher witches from Greek mythology, the Morie or something. Also one odd theory is Jesus.

Considering no one guessed True Archer correctly, who knows.
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>>154340839
>>Plain, "normal" self-insert girl
She was supposed to be a competent magus. 's not exactly "normal"
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>>154361730
The Fates, aka the Moirai.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moirai

But it wouldn't make sense for the three of them to be one person, under virtually any interpretation. Also, one of the Fates actually has a knife, so that kinda kills that concept.

I say hubris, and I say I'm right.
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>>154332371
Its Type-MOON, there's never going to be any official localization. Anime subs are done by the distributor. Fate/Extra was an anomaly, its been 4 years since CCC came out, where's the official translation?
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>>154361897
>where's the official translation?
Extella, two months ago

>Doesn't count because CCC was skipped
PSP was dead, is part of the issue there. But Extella was fresh to them.
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>>154361897
Fate Extella was translated though, so your whole point about CCC is moot.

Grand Order probably won't be translated though.
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>>154361938
Extella was translated because of Xseed translating a game from their parent company. Nasu might tell them to fuck off from Extella 2 and onward
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>>154331211
Why did Archer become Gay Priest
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>>154362048
Unless Nasu explicitly vetoes it for whatever reason, Marvelous USA has a mission statement to localize all Marvelous games.
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CAN WE PLEASE MOVE ON FROM FATE ALREADY
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>>154362119
Artist says he drew it wrong, and drew another version of it as fanart, but the damage is done.

Couple artists may or may not be told to make it shitty on purpose, who knows.
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>>154362159
>drew it wrong
>says that after fully coloring it
What is wrong with him
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>>154362128
Oh, anon, you're in for a rough next couple of decades.
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>>154357617
With FGO, shit like canonity can be fucked, its canon to its own continuity.
Camelot was the result of Jerusalem getting conquered by Lancer Arturia and was in a timeline where Excalibur was never returned, it was a singularity and disappeared after it was fixed.
America was a clusterfuck with the original history barely there.

Hell, FGO's continuity had a grand total of 1 proper HGW in its history, and it was the one in Fuyuki with the victor being Solomon and his master.
Some other stuff like the fact that Primate Murder never became a monster in FGO's continuity.

Its an entire continuity to itself.
The joke events, its all up to your interpretation, maybe they managed to rayshift to very bizzare timelines to experience those stuff, maybe it was all a dream.
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>>154362263
This sounds like someone's trying to create a consistent timeline for mario games.
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>>154362263
>maybe they managed to rayshift to very bizzare timelines
Neko-arc is canon so I wouldn't be that surprised if that was the case.
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>>154362159
>>154362211
This sounds like the reception made them change their minds about the design, so they are going to change it.
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>>154362263
>Hell, FGO's continuity had a grand total of 1 proper HGW in its history, and it was the one in Fuyuki with the victor being Solomon and his master.
I can't help but think that it would be really funny to see just how that unfolded
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>>154362359
Couple artists have complained about their work after it was released so far. Which makes it sound like they were asked to make it a certain way.
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>mfw Sakurai's EXCALIBUR
Send help
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>>154362384
It ended with Solomon becoming a redheaded muggle dork. His master became filthy rich.
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>>154362456
>The only human to ever get a working Grail uses it to wish for money

At least he spent it on a good cause.
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>>154362456
Of course I know how it *ended*. I'm just imagining 12 other people with perfectly valid dreams and aspirations going to war against fucking Solomon, and their plights therein. How strong were the other Servants? How did the other Masters plan to beat Solomon? Et cetera.
>Some Guy summons a sane, Saber Heracles
>"surely I can't possibly lose now, haahahah!"
>lolsolomon
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Reminder not all Casters want to cast spells, Merlin would rather wack things with Excalibur than cast magic because he might bite his tongue casting a spell
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>>154362384
Well, they won the war.

Master wished for money.
Solomon wished to be human.

The grail wasn't fucked in this continuity so it granted their wish.
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>>154362765
>>154362648
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fucking garbage order
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>>154362384
The holy grail itself is a monkey's paw corrupted or not. Solomon almost destroyed the world with his wish.
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>>154362871
How to tell someone read a flawed english synopsis instead of the actual story. His wish was granted completely and cleanly, and ultimately it saved the world. It didn't have a hand in ending it at all. Goetia's plan began when Solomon died, as in the first time in 931 BC. The three thousand years of human history that Goetia uses to incinerate all of time with is 931 BC to 2016 AD. Solomon joining a Holy Grail War and making a wish was something Goetia couldn't even compute, because Goetia thought Solomon had no capacity for personal desire.
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>>154362982
>Goetia thought Solomon had no capacity for personal desire.
Wasn't he right? I understood it as Maurice awakening the concept within him for the first time by asking.
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>>154339231
I don't remember Gudako on the left in any CM. Which one did she appear in?
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>>154363040
Solomon always had the paradoxical desire to have a desire, buried deep within him. He never got to act on it once in his lifetime, though.
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>>154363052
The games OP.
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>>154363078
Fair enough. Explains why Goetia didn't 'get' humans on a certain level. If he thought Solomon was human, that's par for the course.
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>>154363096
Is it homo if I want to fuck da Vinci (male) (female)?
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>>154363178
Ask Solomon.
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>>154363178
If it's cute, who cares.
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>Goetia wanted to give humans immortality
>Instead of living forever and shitposting you are now doomed to die and cease to exist.
>Your loving family no longer has to die before your eyes.

Thanks Yaweh and Solomon. Not like some people want to live forever. Not like humanity is throwing over 500 million dollars into prolong life until random death occurs or anythin