Shounen Jump Issue #15 ToC

So many unranked series... BC is sixth, but it's at the bottom because of the lot of color pages and new serializations.

>>154324949
Pure ranking

01 Haikyu c.238
02 Neverland c.23
03 Hero Academia c.123
04 No.01 c.13
05 Soma c.199
06 Black Clover c.94
07 Saiki c.228
08 Yuna c.47
09 Samon c.65

>>154324949
>Spring Weapon Number One

This really ended up being a dark horse. It still sells like shit though.

>>154324990
Glad that neverland is doing really well

>>154324990
I knew Sister's final stand was gonna rank high.

>>154324949
>Gekkou no Arcadia (CP, One Shot)

hoping this get scanlated, love Claymore

>>154324949
Why is Ghost Tits so low?

>>154324949
Will Samon luck finally run out?

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>>154324990
> 04 No.01
Well ain't that some shit.

>>154325164
Nips kids are too embarrassed to vote for it

>>154325170
It's ending almost naturally considering the current arc.

>>154325164
HIBARI
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These threads will be boring with 5 unranked manga. Can't wait for WNS and U19 rankings. Whatever happens it will be great for shitposting.

>>154324990
Soma is back

>>154325233
kek she's really killing this series

>>154324990
Why does Yuna keep dropping?

Is Yuuna really doing that bad?

I mean it's getting a cp next week

and after that it will get the cover for it anniversary

after that the new series will start getting ranked and some of them will be cancelled

>>154325233
Wasn't even in the chapter ranked.

>>154325233
Not quite, this was the Chisaki chapter that ranked. Next week is Hibari (so possibly dead last)

>>154324990
>04 No.01 c.13
I can't believe this is going to survive. Maybe someone will finally translate this.

>>154325481
Won't be dead last if it's getting a CP next week

>>154325170
That's what Numa gets for lowballing the devil with his weekly sacrifice

>>154325475
>>154325481
I was just memeing, nips probably don't like actual developments in their harem manga.

>>154325510
The board game chapter got a #5 or #6 rank.

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>>154325164

>>154325227
I'm honestly surprised that he hasn't made an attempt to salvage his rankings with another Kago chapter. Maybe the author forgot about her?

>>154325596
I think the popularity poll results affected it. Her chapters do exceptionally well, but it seems she herself isn't popular, she was only 9th or 10th..

>>154324990
>09 Samon c.65
Live you piece of shit

>>154324990
>mob bombman surviving

Fucking disgusting but that also means poro is dead since it's taking away it's audience.

>>154325755
What the hell is Number 1 even about?

>>154325780
The plot is pretty similar to Poro just with weapons and mechs instead of demons. People give it a lot of shit here, but I honestly found it somewhat funny

>>154324949
Of the new series i'm liking WNS the most so far, it's not original but at least it's comfy, /sci/ a cute, also
>that banba picture
Still mad

>>154324949
Average ranking over last 8 issues

01.41 One Piece
02.14 Hero Academia
02.46 Haikyu
03.08 Black Clover
03.62 Kimetsu
04.15 Neverland
05.96 Soma
06.01 Hinomaru
06.42 Gintama
07.38 Sesuji
07.54 No.01
08.06 Yuna
08.63 Samon
08.92 Saiki
11.34 Ole Golazo
11.35 Amalgam
12.41 Demon's Plan

>>154325948
Average excluding ended series

01.46 One Piece
02.13 Hero Academia
02.38 Haikyu
02.99 Black Clover
03.67 Kimetsu
03.95 Neverland
05.74 Soma
05.99 Hinomaru
06.43 Gintama
07.19 No.01
07.77 Yuna
08.40 Saiki
08.65 Samon

>>154325948
Oh yeah Soma will be fine for awhile

>>154324949
>chopper cosplaying akainu
Kek

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>>154325948
>>154325994
>Kimetsu on top 5

>>154324990
>06 Black Clover
>can't even stay on the top 5
>beaten by SW#1 and Soma

Hahahahaha clovercucks BTFO

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>>154325994
>Saiki and Samon ranking below fucking Spring Weapon
All two dozen fans should say their goodbyes. Both of these mediocre "comedies" are getting canned next round.

>>154324949
Wasn't there a one-shot last week as well?

>>154326376
I said my goodbyes to Samon about a year ago so I'm good to go

>>154326376
samon, probably, but saiki sells 10 times more than spring weapon

>>154326376
Saiki is getting a second season and a live action, it's not getting axed anytime soon.

>>154325780
It's World Trigger except all the tactics are with gags.

>>154324949
>Shounen Jump Issue 16:
>Cover, Lead CP: Robot×Laserbeam (New Series)
I thought that was coming this week

>>154326376
Samon is in what could easily be its final arc, and its arcs or pretty short in general, so Samon should end in about 8-10 weeks, right in time for the next round

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>>154326652
>Samon maybe ending soon
>scans still haven't made it past Chapter 30

>>154326084
I dont even read that manga but I want it to do better so it kicks nigger clover from the top 5

>>154325643
Maybe they did great not because of that character in particular, but because it let Samon show off his decent side. He should've gone for another one.

>>154326652
So once Samon ends, what's going to replace it?

>>154327616
Hopefully World Trigger

>>154327616
No.01 is being groomed as the new third-string gag series behind Saiki and Isobee, which was Samon's role the past year or two.

How long until Neverland spoilers?

>>154328038
5 minutes

>>154328016
Then what about Marie and Poro?

>>154324949
Marie is being pushed too hard considering how boring it is as a premise

I thought I liked Poro but these last two chapters have ruined any interest I have in it and I think saving Spring Weapon instead is the right choice

That said, the magazine last week was one of the most disappointing I've read in a while, the only things keeping this magazine alive anymore are Kimetsu and One Piece, maybe Neverland if it picks up the pace soon...Hinomaru and Gintama are still great but probably won't last to next year...all these new series are profoundly disappointing, though Dr. Stone might get better

>>154328110
Poro is just a No. 01 clone that should die quickly and Marie is going for that Gintama audience

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>>154324990
>08 Yuna c.47

I know Yuna is safe no matter what happens because it is the only 2016 manga selling over 100k but this is sad. Why do nips hate plot progression.

>>154328285
Yuna won't be cancelled because of its good sales in an era where nothing new in Jump is selling, but the editors will probably want to meddle and give notes and suggestions to Miura if the rankings don't bounce back, probably tell him to lay off on progressing anything for years. As a fan that could be an even worse fate than a cancellation.

>>154325429
I tried reading it awhile ago and I gave up after the first ~10-15 chapters because it felt like the most generic and by the books shit imaginable.

I wouldn't be surprised if people are just getting tired of it.

>>154329187
What? 10-15 chapters? And you managed to judge it as a generic ecchi harem manga?

People are surprised it's dropping because it isn't just a generic ecchi harem manga.
It has a competent MC who know how to handle girls.
Girls that actually have brains that doesn't just jump the gun when there's a misunderstanding with the MC.
Actual story progression with the girls and the MC.

People are surprised that a refreshing manga like this is dropping where fan-service focused chapter rise to the rankings
while story progression chapter go low. That's what surprises me the most.
Does nips really hate plot progression that much and just cares about "plot"?

I heard Gintama was on a two-week break, but I thought it was only supposed to be this 1 week?

>>154326376
I will miss Saiki but the series wouldn't look weird to end anytime now.

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Rough Neverland spoilers

- Flashback scene on Norman's farewell
- Ray regrets to have been unable to stop him.
- Emma tried to deactivate Norman's transmitter when hugging him but failed as Norman noticied and pull her back.
- Isabella threatening Emma "to kill if she makes a noise next time"
- Norman & Isabella are heading to the gate. Something about the truck. Norman asked her if she's happy now (or something like that), she answered she was happy to meet him.
- Seems that there are 2 persons standing at the door of the gate.
- Norman is shocked.
- Next day, Emma's morning without Norman.

>>154329971
Meh

>>154329971
They can't just keep stretching shit out with chapters where nothing happens. This makes me think they don't have ideas for what to do after the escape.

>>154324990
Seeing that Ghost tits sells near 100k and ranks high when there's no plot only PLOT, we're not gonna have any progression for a while.

>>154330156
I agree that from the summary it's a weak chapter, but in an interview Shirai said he couldn't wait to get to the next arc, so at least they know what to do next

>>154330156
I don't think he went into serialization without a plan for what he was going to do. It feels more like either a first time author not knowing how to set the pace, or Jump deliberately padding things out to milk the drama as long as possible. It is fucking maddening, though. We've spent forever on this shit, let's see some progress.

You bastards. Why did you have to hype up Poro so much? It just makes it all the more devastating.

>>154328993

Rankings arent important, sales are ... its entirely irrelevant of a series ranks well and cannot pass 50k volume sales, that is what matters.

Any Spring weapon reader here? What's so good about it?

>>154331194
so why bleach got canned?

>>154331281
Nothing. Characters are shit. Comedy is shit. Not sure why these faggots hype it up so much, but, like Poro, I hated it. Absolute trash manga.

>>154331281
>What's so good about it?
To the fans, all the fujo moments. To normal people, nothing really.

>>154331412
>all the fujo moments
what

>>154331281
It's funny, that's all, it's the same thing as Samon and Poro and Saiki

I don't understand why four manga with the exact same plot and artstyle need to be in the same magazine...that said, I think one of them should stay, I just am undecided which one

>>154331374
You know, the dumbest people in these sorts of threads are always the ones who believe their favorite series got cancelled, as if the mangaka wanted to keep making trash for the rest of their life at such a crazy intense schedule, even though they have more money than they will be able to spend before their miserable death, stuff that gets cancelled, does not get promoted for its final chapter

>>154331574
Yeah, it's the same manga four times.

>>154329607
Do you think the Gorilla is using this break to reread the backissues of his own series so he can make sure he brings back every character in this arc?

>>154331574
I think Samon and Saiki are slightly different, but you get the high school setting a lot because that's the audience Jump is targeted at, and the formula for a comedy series is basically "wacky fantasy thing in a everyday setting".

>>154326800
>find out about Samon
>28 translated chapters of 100
all of my favourite manga never get translated

>>154331622
i neither like or hate bleach, i just tought that the ending smell like axed sheep. So, by your logic kubo deliberately end his series that way?

>>154331374
The thing is every Manga is an investment for Jump. They want to have good sales. Bleach had already peaked and while it had good sales, it lost its potential to grow as a franchise and the rankings were bad for years. So its only a wise decision to cancel it and take a new series its place which might be a profitable franchise.

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>>154325206
>tfw that's a real thing

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>>154326359
I know this is bait but

>When BC is low on the TOC, it's because it's shit
>When BC is high on the TOC, it doesn't matter because editor manipulation and the TOC is not a real ranking system

so, Samon-kun is finally going to end?
as someone who just started Teshi/Samon will never happen right?

>>154332011
For me it was like Jump gave Kubo the time to end the series. I mean it was in the bottom for years. Jumps system is that series can only end every 3-4 months when the new serialization round starts. That means that Kubo had to choose at which round he is going to end the manga. He probably thought that he could end it at that round he chose but fucked it up due to his shit writing. So he had to end the series anyway because Jump already had the serialization round planned out.
This is also the reason why Naruto feels kinda rushed in the last 3 chapters.

>>154332011
Kubo didn't deliberately end the last arc that way, and Bleach didn't get canceled. People just cling to that because it lets them blame someone other than Kubo. What likely happened is that Kubo wanted to end Bleach, and his editors agreed it was getting long in the tooth, but wanted it to go out with a bang. So well in advance of it ending they sat down with Kubo, and together decided to end it at it's 15th anniversary with the announcement of the live action movie.

Then they ran into the problems that:
1. Kubo can't pace for shit anymore.
2. Kubo kind of sucks at ending arcs.

All the stuff with Aizen and the Arrancar ended with multiple deus ex machina, questions unanswered, and new questions raised. The stuff with the fullbringers pretty much did the same. The stuff with the final arc did the same as well. The only difference is that Kubo had a deadline. Once the end date of a series has been set in planning, it's really fucking hard to change, even by a chapter or two. But Kubo can't pace the story as well as he could at the start of Bleach anymore, so things kept taking longer than could really be afforded to them, and the deadline started loomin. So Kubo tried to cram in as many of the things he had planned as he could before he ran out of time, then half-assed an ending and skipped to the epilogue he had planned.

>>154329971
How long are they going to extend this arc jesus christ

>>154325466
All the new series are probably part of the reason it's low. They just finished cutting and ending a bunch of stuff, and started up the replacements. So series that tend to range in the middle are susceptible to being pushed down towards the bottom until the cancellation fodder starts dropping.

>>154324990
>9 series

holy fuck JUMP is getting worse by the month

>>154329971
2 persons at the gate
does that mean there's a bigger destiny for Norman in there
can`t really say out there anymore after last chapter

>>154332721
It was needed, a lot of big hits ended lately and new series usually dont success except with 1 or 2 exceptions per batch at most

They wanted to give the magazine a new life by getting past authors that had more or less succeful series to make another one

>>154324949
They're placing Marie pretty high.

>>154326376
Saiki is a gag manga
Saiki has a second season and live action coming

There's no reason to cancel it.

>>154326376
>Actually hating gag manga
Imagine being this pathetic

>>154331194
No, you're wrong, if you sell less than 200k you are still on the chopping board.
A lot of people seems to get it wrong, but right now the biggest seller and source of income of Shueisha is WSJ itself, a manga that sell less than 3-400k give them pratically nothing while one that ranks well and make the magazine more popular has a lot of less chance of being axed.

>>154332859
Amalgam was placed #3 on its 7th chapter, the week right before it first ranked. We know that pre-rankings mean nothing.

>>154333218
WSJ is the not the biggest source of income for Shuisha. Actually its barely profitable. A magazine is cheap as fuck and printed on toilet paper to get just get even. Jump only serves as a advertisement for the volumes where they get their real profit from.

>>154333316
They do mean something, some combination of response and how much Jump wants to push it.

>>154333486
Yeah U19 is already a lost case and Poro might be as well.

>>154333486
Neverland was bottom 6 its last 2 weeks before being ranked. Then it shot up to top 5.

>>154333382
are you retardert? how many comercial do you see in one volume of any manga? Have you seen jump in real life? its 600 pages. And 200 are ads. GUESS I~M THE RETARD HERE> TEHE

Dr.Stone spoilers
They spend the chapter trying to find a way to undo the petrification.
First they see that in the cave Taiju was in, nitric acid coming from bat-poop was dripping down. So they try it on a petrified bird but without success.
Senkuu says he would be able to produce Nital if he had alcohol.
Taiju quickly brings him grapes, which they promptly turn into whine and then try to distill into brand, without success.
It takes them a whole year until they finally manage to produce the stuff.
They try it on the bird and it works.
Since Taiju brought the grapes he gets to choose who is released first.....

>>154324990
Nice, Neverland.

>>154334245
wow, this manga is going to be over quickly

>>154324990
shit Spring Weapon will never get canceled at this rate

>>154334245
>another time skip already in chapter 2

Well, here's one author that's going to try and wrap up the story before the inevitable axe

>>154334245
my bet:
they're going to release the strongest highschooler first
something goes wrong and the dude is psychologically fucked up and tries to kill them

>>154334480
why did boichi even bother to do another manga when he still have origin... madman...

>>154334598
money

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>>154329971
This summary sucks for some reason. Honestly, these spoilers look interesting enough as an auto-translate from netabare. I don't think the chapter is as bad as previous anons believe.

>>154329971
some other details from MH:
Isabella tells Emma that if she makes a fuss about it she'll kill Emma this time.

Isabella holding Norman's briefcase says that it's empty, and Norman says there's no point in bringing anything.

On the way to the gate Norman asks Isabella whether she's happy (in the manner of 'are you happy being here, are you happy that this is your life, etc.'). For a moment Isabella looks taken aback and shocked, but immediately returns to her usual smile and replies, 'I was happy to meet you'.

At the gate, there are two people waiting in front of a small door. Isabella opens the door, telling Norman they are waiting. Looking inside, Norman's expression hardens.

Norman: "What..."

>>154331574
Saiki and Samon are kind of different. Saiki has more deadpan sarcasm and has Saiki be the most normal character, despite his powers. Samon has mainly visual gags and some battle arcs, plus kind of a harem for Samon (because Anri, Rin and that kouhai girl all like him, despite the endgame obviously being Tesshi). So those two are different enough to only overlap a bit, but Spring Weapon and Poro sort of cover up all the gaps between those two, so all four melt into the same thing.

>>154334894
>all four melt into the same thing
there needs to be a fusion between them
I wodner if we could take the best out of all four of them and combine them into a great gag-manga

>>154334932
>take the best out of all four of them
What would be taken from each one?

>>154324990
>07 Saiki c.228
>09 Samon c.65
LIVE

>>154324949
Every week I enter in this thread hoping to see World Trigger back.

>>154335104
Absolutely nothing

>>154335199
wow rude

>>154324949
Stay stronk, Neverland

>>154334480
Taiju is the one to choose, he's obviously going to pick his waifu.

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>>154324990
>04 No.01 c.13
FUCK YES
>mfw all those underwhelming new entries getting shitcanned while #1 stays strong

>>154334932
>>154335104
a cute demon girl gets summoned into the normal human world but she's too strong to be controlled and just starts irritating her chuuni-summoner by acting like a complete weeb
>mixing hebrew and other langauges with words like sugoi and kawaii
she meets a robot who also wants to be human
they're joined by an irritated deadpan esper who is the only sane person in a ten mile radius

>>154324990
I wish Samon sacrifices the souls of the newcomers for his survival

>>154335126
>>154324990
>long running gag series in Jump
>author is the Aya Hirano (+bassist) of Jump
>both ending
Nah. At least not for another 2 years.

>>154332268
>This is also the reason why Naruto feels kinda rushed in the last 3 chapters.
Not really. They defeated the final boss every on and the final five chapters was centered on Naruto and Sasuke's relationship compared to Bleach in which the last boss was defeated in the 3rd to last chapter.

>Spring Weapon is going to be the new WSJ series that makes it

I have to say, I didn't see this coming

>Spring Weapon ruined the Kubo's curse meme

get triggered Bleach tards

>>154334808
>there are two people waiting

It's fake Ray&Emma, calling it

>>154335145
Jokes on you I'm waiting for Hunter x Hunter

>>154324990
>Yuna that low
Welp, guess were going back to PLOT chapters intead of plot progression.

>Samon bottom rank
Samon should sacrifice more new series in order to stay.

Ranking probably won't matter as much until the 6 new series start ranking.
Still surprised about Number.1 ranking considering how bad it vol.1 sales was, around 10,000.

>>154331884
Everyone who tries to do this series either disappears into the ether or ends up with a broken computer

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>>154334894
>Rin
>likes him

How did come to that conclusion?

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(3 days)

308478 *308478　Haikyuu 25
150667 *150667　Shokugeki no Souma 23
137262 *137262　World Trigger 18
*66723 **66723　Black Clover 10
*62755 2393553　One Piece 84
*41476 **41476　Kimetsu no Yaiba 5
*23827 **23827　Kuroko no Basket: Replace Plus 6
*21062 **21062　Shokugeki no Souma: L'étoile 4
*20607 **20607　Let's Haikyuu!? 4
*20435 *440536　Boku no Hero Academia 12
*19587 **19587　Fire Punch 4
*18487 **18487　Samon-kun wa Summoner 8

Kimetsu sold better than Neverland in 3 days

golf spoiler when

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>>154336420
Hell yes, keep growing Kimetsu.

>>154336420
>Kimetsu sold better than Neverland in 3 days
Seeing how you compare a volume 5 to a volume 2, everything else would be pathetic.

>>154336420
Is Samon kill?

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>>154336420
>people are still buying World Trigger

I hope the dream stays alive.

I'm also glad Ashihara fixed this one little detail to keep it consistent with the two trigger limit rule, even if the last panel doesn't look as cool without the cape.

>>154336420
>137262 *137262　World Trigger 18
Can't wait to see how the Cpt. Ikoma cover will fare in a week and a month.

>>154336420
>*41476 **41476　Kimetsu no Yaiba 5
I have a feeling that it could've been higher if there was more Zenitsu on it.

>>154336486
40k is impressive, the previous volume sold only 20k

>>154336420
samon sell like shit, how did it survive this long?
why do i suddenly feel sleepy and hungry?

>>154336464
I was just too excited. Sorry

>>154336464
>>154336458
I like both
Don't care for wnl and u19 though
Poro is cute, but generic and not that funny
Hungry Mary seems like a Ranma ripoff
Dr.Stone is weird not very fond of it

They'll all get axed

>>154336525
the 5 new series are only fodders to make RxL look better than what it would be.

>>154336525
So are you saying Kimetsu and Neverland are getting axed? Stay in line for all of the new stuff. Plus they're doing better and better.

Marie, Dr. Stone and the golf manga all have a chance of surviving. We never learn, poro and U19 will probably get axed.

>>154336525
first 3 will die in 3 months max.
HM and Homo Stone will die before the end of the year
RxL will rape Haikyuu sales.

>>154336581

>reading comprehension 101

>>154334808
He's actually gonna get adopted, won't he?

>>154336636
You should've used enter after I like both to make things easier to understand then. You talk about both, then about those 4 and then you say they'll all get axed. It's your fault for not being clear enough.

>>154336616
>Homo Stone
What is homo about it?

>>154336616
How about we wait a little bit to know for sure if the golf mango will actually have a chance against Haikyuu.

>>154336749
It needs to be. Furudate has been becoming lazier of the years since it has no competition. Someone has to whip her ass up back into shape.

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>>154336420
*41476 **41476　Kimetsu no Yaiba 5

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We need to update this soon

>>154336706
Two dudes alone in the woods

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>>154336994
>Sesuji still in the shot

It feels like it hasn't officially ended yet. Anyways I'm glad it's getting releases again, can't wait to read the last four chapters.

>>154336994
Spring weapon, We can't study, Poro and U19 will join them if they survive

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>>154335894
NOOOOOOOOOOOO
I AM IN CHARGE HERE

>>154335145
I'm just glad the author's confirmed to be alright. That alone gives me strength

>>154336525
>Dancing Midgets died for this

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>>154329971
> - Isabella threatening Emma "to kill if she makes a noise next time"
>First she broke her leg
>Now she tries to threat her with death
How Isabella can be this cruel shit to such a good girl Emma?

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>>154336420
>Kimetsu no Yaiba
Buy it for the young female assistants!

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If Samon really does end, I still feel like it had a decent run for the author's first time, and I enjoyed it nonetheless.

>>154324949
>Black Clover this low
I haven't read last chapters yet. Are they so bad?

>>154337289
I tried reading it but dropped it after ten chapters
Too generic for me

>>154337335
I read it when I have nothing to do at all.
>Too generic for me
This. Well, at least Black Clover art style is quite good and some of its gags are pretty cute.

>>154336653
That would be an unexpected development.

>>154324990
>Nine series
I hope that by the end of the 2020 WSJ won't include only One Piece.

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>>154336653
>>154337488
>Minerva is going to adopt Norman

>>154337457
Good artists are a dime a dozen. It's good writers who're really in limited supply.

>>154337521
>WSJ without OP
Literally Pizza without Tomato sauce

>>154324949
I'm so happy about Neverland, I actually look forward to it every week and that's become rare.

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>>154329971
This will definitely save Norman somehow. I knew best boy wouldn't die without even confessing to his waifu.

>>154337589
>He doesn't eat pizza with bbq sauce with chicken and bacon toppings

>>154337566
>the chosen high-quality children can be spared and adopted perhaps to be eaten later during Tifari

>>154337204
Mama's a fucking cunt, she needs to leave Emma alone already. She doesn't deserve this, she's too cute.

>>154337669
>Being this American

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>>154330551
>in an interview Shirai said he couldn't wait to get to the next arc, so at least they know what to do next

Source?

If Shirai isn't a hack they will escape by chapter 34 which is the end of Volume 4.

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>>154329971
>Emma tried to deactivate Norman's transmitter when hugging him
>Emma's morning without Norman

>>154337211
Is the author female?

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Who's next?

>>154336420
>BC 66k
So much for being jump next big thing.
>KnY 41k
Go Kimetsu! You fucking deserve it and this is just the start.

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>>154337660
>>154329971
>Emma tried to deactivate Norman's transmitter when hugging him
>such touching and desperate actions

Could authors actually break all classic stereotypes for the pairings and give us something as uncommon as NE in the future, for real?

When will the covers of the volumes coming out in early April be published? I'm curious to see the Neverland one

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>>154337970
I would be all for a pairing becoming canon earlier than usual in a shounen. As long as it doesn't imply death and suffering for them, of course.

But these two make me happy and I'm rarely a shipperfag.

>>154337995
3~4 weeks

>>154337802
first part of the interview:
http://news.mixi.jp/view_news.pl?id=4416729&media_id=141
second part of the interview:
https://news.nifty.com/article/entame/showbizd/12176-79456/

summary in next post

>>154338318
Shirai apparently worked for some company after graduating university. He said it had nothing to do with manga at all and that this is his first time being a real mangaka (or rather manga author).

He was about to give up after several of his scripts got trashed and told himself that he wasn't talented. He regretted it and called his latest attempt "The Promised Neverland" which was also meant to be his last try as a Mangaka and was written 3 years ago. He wrote 300 pages, because he was unable to properly summarise it and naturally a lot of things were changed from his original script. His intention was just to know if this last attempt was any good or trash like his previous ones. Newcomers usually don't bring 300 pages to such a evaluation meeting, because it's absurd. When Demizu encountered Shirai he read the whole script at once. He would usually get bored midway when he read scripts, but this time - all 300 pages - were so entertaining that he couldn't stop. Back then (well even now if you don't count TPN) Shirai was a nobody, so it was hard to trick Jump into giving the Duo a chance, but Demizu believed in Shirai's talent. Shirai planned back then to let someone else draw it. Shirai himself can draw, but the editor felt like it didn't do the script justice and that it would be too hard to expect Shirai to keep up the quality of the writing and draw it. Demizu points out once again that he joined the project after Shirai (and Sugita). Also Sugita is basically responsible for uniting the two into a team (and making them do the oneshot). "They fell in love right away with each other." Shirai loved Demizu's art as much as Demizu loved Shirai's writing. Shirai also knew about Demizu's art before they meet. He explains what he loves about Demizu's art like the expressions, background, cuteness etc. Shirai was so happy when he saw Demizu's draw his oneshot, because the outcome was better than he even imagined.

>>154337952
BC still did better than its previous volume:
>59,814 (3)│113,151│131,749│------│------┃,131,749 (*17)┃2016/12｜ブラッククローバー 9

Maybe it will be MHA tier by volume 20!

>>154338347
TPN was basically not planned for Jump so it was kinda troublesome to decide with the editor what part of the script should stay the same and what shouldnt. There was stuff Shirai absolutely wanted to keep and that didn't fit Jump, but they ultimately let that in. That's why it's not like the rest of the magazine and more of an oddball (like Death Note was). It looks like the reviews for the Oneshot where alright and that's why Shirai was allowed to go through with most of his vision. Shirai had two oneshots before starting TPN. One was ポピィの願い/Poppy's Desire with Demizu and the other was アシュリー=ゲートの行方/Ashley=The Gate's whereabouts which he released all alone. Both were published on Jump+.

Part 2:

- Some of Shirai's influences include Naoki Urasawa, Takeshi Obata, Yusei Matsui (He liked Neuro a lot), Hirohiko Araki in suspense factor, and various others.
- Shirai often watches movies, which are also a big influence. He mentions a movie he loves called The Good Son, a suspense film.
- He likes situations with two-sided characters and excitement.
- Shirai: "Within Jump, while other manga are creating flashy and fierce battles, we only have to make strong pulls with psychological warfare that exceeds that."
- Posuka likes drawing Krone. Shirai also likes seeing her in action.
- Posuka also likes drawing Isabella, and thinks she is the only character currently that should be drawn beautifully.
- Shirai likes to deceive/challenge the readers.
- Shirai's wants to tell the message of "Friendship, Effort, Victory" (the Jump slogan) in the story. Even if the girl is the hero, without any battles, and if the story seems anti-Jump like, he still hopes it will lead in that message.
- He's decided the setting and story of the world where Emma will escape to. The meaning/place is in the title "Promised Neverland".

>>154338360
- The title of the manga was supposed to be "Neverland" only. But, it was supposed to be somewhat better in that "Neverland", so he changed the title.
He's thinking of developing a way where the term "Promise" is linked to the core of the story firmly.
Shirai: "If Emma can jailbreak successfully, I'll know the meaning of "Promised Neverland", so I'd like to do my best to not have the series end by that time (laugh)!
- The jailbreak arc will be finished around volumes 3-4, Shirai doesn't know how it will go but he'd like to proceed to the next arc soon.


Translation courtesy of BasedAnon and BanzaiMang from MH

Why do we get all Wednesdays One Piece, Shokugeki and Promised Neverland spoilers, but we must wait to Thursdays for Hero Academia spoilers?

>>154338483
Because Hero Academia is shit. SHIIIIIIIIT.

>>154338483
>Deku bla bla bla

>>154338536
I can say that to TPN too
>full chapter of info dumping
>tell not show

>>154338483
Here I have spoilers:
Deku is in school and training, and Ochako is still irrelevant

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>>154338654
>tell not show

>>154337828
She's gonna be fucking depressed, poor girl.

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>Reading "My Hero" oneshot
>MC is a salaryman who is a composite of Deku and Ochako
>The Hero "Snipe" who Dekucako spends most of the manga trying to one up because Snipe insulted his hero "Positive" who was actually Snipe all along uses a technique called "Shoot Style."

Neat.

>>154325233
I don't get Nips, she's a pretty fun character.

>>154329971
>>154334808
>Norman pretty much confirmed to live
I couldn't be happier.

>>154329971
>>154334808
So any bets on why Norman was so shocked? He knew that there would be demons or other Mamas or Sisters at the gate, but these two people in particular at the gate shocked him
>A the two people are both Mama canidates who used to live on plantation 3 with Norman and was raised by Isabella as well and he recognizes them
>B the two people are adult males who used to be gracefield oprhans and Normans surprised since Sister Krone mentioned that only girls get to survive
>C the two people are a literal couple a husband and wife that payed a lot of money to rescue and adopt Norman from being slaughtered in the farm system

>>154337881
Yeah she is.

>>154336335
it's a curse!

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>>154329971
Anyone think the two people that give Norman a shocked expression are the older blond girl and black girl hands over shoulders in pic related? They appeared and had vocal roles in the omake when the trio were only 6 as well. Maybe they're both Mamas in training now.

>>154338347
Thanks for reposting this, I've been wanting to look at it again.

>>154337080
Actually, I heard secondhand that Jump actually wanted Yokota to continue Sesuji, but it was author himself who decided to pull the plug.

>>154339974
And what is your source, may I ask.

>>154331194
Fuck off back to jungle, GIA

>>154338347
>Promised Neverland" which was also meant to be his last try as a Mangaka and was written 3 years ago
This is Final Fantasy all over again.

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>>154338858
He deserves all the happiness.

>>154340001
I did admit it was secondhand, so I'm still trying to find a source to very it

>>154340107
Well there you go. I've seen that idea flying around, but I've never seen a source, so it's bullshit as far as I'm concerned.

>>154338483
All those series have a dedicated leaker for them (I'm honestly surprised Souma still has one considering how the series has fallen off the radar) doesn't really mean anything since spoilers are pretty irrelevant in this day and age when we get a chapter and translations immediately the next day.

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>>154335792
>le Shun is a a slut meme

>>154336486
>Can't wait to see how the Cpt. Ikoma cover will fare in a week and a month.
Probably pretty well since the Volumes are the only source of new content right now.

>>154340238
>TPN spoilers on Wednesdays
>chapters only on Sundays
It hurts.

>>154340504
Neverland would get out faster if Niggerstream's staff would put it up higher on their priority list but apparently Black Clover gets more clicks for them.

>>154340539
You always post the same image when you shitpost and call yourself out as crossboarder.

>>154340539
If you're gonna use the same picture every time, at least use something anime or manga related, fag.

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>>154340627
>>154340643

>>154340574
They put Neverland on Saturday one day and it was awful due to the shitty raws. I'd rather wait until Sunday for digital raws.

>>154340683
Or you could just grow up.

>>154340684
They use the same shitty raws for their Sunday release. They say that the only reason why TPN comes out later is because of their translator not because of raws. Viz Scans has the best quality but they come out on Monday.

>>154324987
More like because the current arc is fucking terrible.

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>>154340759
>current arc
Then what about the previous arcs

>>154340813
This one puts them to shame. Like the author is trying to outdo himself on how bad he can make it with every chapter.

is haikyuu end on sigth?

>>154337669
>retarded

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>>154336420
>*41476 **41476　Kimetsu no Yaiba 5
This is great. Next volume will introduce the Pillars so I hope it sells 50k.

>>154341473
At this point, I think we can even assume it's gonna get an anime.

>>154342251
In the last 10 years the only series that sold that much and didn't get an anime is Psyren

WSJ series that sold 60,000+ on Oricon

2007　Sket Dance,　Hatsukoi Limited (short)
2008　Psyren,　Nurarihyon no Mago,　Bakuman,　Toriko
2009　Kuroko no Basket,　Beelzebub,　Medaka Box,　Ane Doki (short)
2011　Nisekoi
2012　Haikyuu,　Saiki Kusuo no Ψ-nan,　Ansatsu Kyoushitsu,　Shokugeki no Souma
2013　World Trigger,　Ginga Patrol Jaco (short)
2014　Boku no Hero Academia
2015　Black Clover
2016　Boruto,　Yuragisou no Yuuna-san, Yakusoku no Neverland,　Kimetsu no Yaiba

I put KnY because it will reach 60k in the second week no matter how badly it sells

What happened to Psyren, bad rankings?

>>154336486
Zenitsu is old and busted

Shinobu is the new waifu bait everybody is in love with

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>>154337669

>>154336464
This is a big jump for Kimetsu though, previously it's only done 20k in its first weekends.

>>154342610
>Toriko

Where the fuck is the space arc :'(

>>154324949
>Yuragi-sou no Yuuna-san
PLEASE die.

>>154342895
Please live.

>>154342895
Go be a faggot to another place.

>>154340856
This is how I feel about every BC arc. Best hate-read there is

>>154329485
10-15 chapters is more than enough to judge something. That's typically over a volume of manga.

>>154342957
>fanservice whatever harem yada yada been there done that
read youkai shoujo or something

Why not throw some of these axed manga to another magazine by the same editorial?

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Samon got 2 consecutive CPs and sold less than fucking Jump+ spinoffs

It's pitiful

>>154329485
Are you really surprised that people read it for the tits?

>>154342992
No way, Witch Forest arc is by far the worst thing in the entire manga. At least Water Temple was generic cheesy fun. Witch Forest arc is basically a bad parody. Ladros' continuous asspulls were pure comedy.

>>154343132
Intro: Generic
Protecting the village: Fine for what it was. Nothing special.
Dungeon: Whatever. Luck is a pretty bad character even for this manga desu.
City invasion arc: Good idea poor execution. The thing with FuegoLeon and Leopold needed more build up and was ultimately pointless because they were both basically written out of the manga anyway.
Children Rescue arc: Good beginning turns into a mess when Licht appears.
Water Temple: Generic and predictable but still the peak of the manga.
Diamond invasion: Pointless filler
Witch Forest: Pure garbage

Tabata needs to drop the stupid stake escalation every single arc. It only worked on the Water Temple.

>>154342996
>magazine that is the symbol of shounen been there done that
>complaining about been there done that harem
You're just retarded.

>>154343370
...How?

I don't like the majority of series in WSJ because of that. It's not incapable of different things, though.

>>154342610
The author didnt know what to do next and it had pretty bad rankings in the end.

>>154343132
I was not disputing that Witch Forest is unbelievably awful. Just saying the series gets dumber with every new chapter.

>>154343493
The Water Temple was better than most of the stuff that came before by having just one single instance of dumb stake escalation.

>>154329971
>there is hope for Norman
Thank you based Neverland.

>>154342895
Yuuna is already dead.

>>154329971
the pace of this manga never ceases to amaze me

>>154343775
the mangaka knows where he's going
I like it when a manga actually has an ending and doesn't drag on for ever and ever like some do
>I am so glad Bleach is finally over

>>154343832
I daresay most mangaka have an idea of how they want their series to end.

In fact, One Piece and Naruto in the same magazine make it clear in chapter 1: Luffy will become the Pirate King, Naruto will become the Hokage. Most manga feel like that, especially in Shounen Jump.

Then there's Bleach. Ichigo...said almost nothing in the final chapter. How appropriate.

>>154343415
>...

>>>/reddit/

>>154343832
It's already dragging out, so many useless chapters already repeating the same shit over and over.

>>154344007
This chapter seems pretty boring apart from the ending but stuff like seeing Emma deal with Norman's "death" should be good for her character. I suppose you can consider it dragging out but characterization wise it should be helpful.

>>154344007
Fuck off.

I point out how you're statement is bullshit, you get upset and just point out an ellipses used properly?

>>154344062
>ellipses used properly
Fuck off faggot.

>>154324949
someone post the actual cover

>>154344199
I see you don't want to acknowledge that Shounen Jump being known for by the numbers shit is a bad thing.

Okay then.

...

...

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>>154344238
I see that you're such a moron that you didn't even notice that post was a new IP, cancer.

>>154344284
Why would I notice that?

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>>154324949

I don't know about any body else but i'm tired of these group color poses for the One Piece crew. They're over saturated and just boring now with the same characters we've seen for more than a decade posing with an ambiguous grin on their face.

Any We Never Learn spoilers? Asking for an otter.

>>154344466
The tomboy girl does something fanservicey and then the two other girls think about how their tutor is cool. The tutor is ignorant but still hopeful about his students.

There, I just spoiled the next 10 chapters or so of We Never Learn, assuming they don't introduce another girl.

>>154344524

If you woild have spoiled the next 10 chapters, you would have told him the end too. Fake

>>154344656
Ouch.

>>154342610
Psyren got canned at a time when Jump was really packed. A lot of potential hits like Magico and Kurogane got rekt in that period as well.

Nisekoi survived, lmao.

>>154344697
Magico and Kurogane sold Zumo-tier bad though

>>154344883
And Zumo has been allowed to stick around because Jump isn't as full as it was then.

>>154338656
But he just encountered body exploder yakuza man and cute horned loli

>>154344410
that cover is from several issues ago

>>154344933
Zumo has good rankings so it stays, those other ones had bad rankings and died, it that so hard to get?

>>154345399
Plus Japan really wants to revive Sumo. I wonder where the fuck they found the author for Zumo, he/she really knows his/her shit, is talented and a pretty solid mangaka overall.

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>>154324990
Haikyuu a GOAT

>>154337265
yeah my only regret is that we never got more kouhai chapters nor any resolution for her crush

>>154347560
It could survive with all of these new series.

>>154348028
Cancellations are decided months in advance, I see this latest push, 2 color pages in a row directly before the release of its new volume, a hail mary from the editorial, and it didn't help at all, Samon's sales are actually down from what they were before, there's no way they can salvage it, and to be honest, as a fan, I've found the last dozen raw chapters boring, I think the author doesn't really know what to do with the series.

>>154348399
>>154348028
More new series = more sacrifices

>>154348436
Samon can't hide forever.

>>154346249
Japan just got their first home-born yokozuna in nearly 2 decades, now is the perfect time to announce it.
It'll probably be by Toei thou.

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How will Samon most likely end? If it gets cut next round, that's around 6-8 weeks, correct? Is that enough tine for the new arc to be resolved, and for Tesshi to go to hell, and for her and Samon to get together? Or would Numa just pull out some troll ending as kind of a final 'fuck you'?

>>154348575
>Tesshi to go to hell, and for her and Samon to get together?
they end up in hell, together
then they fuck
that would be the best ending

>>154348436
Sesuji was killed even though Spring Weapon was doing worse than it, same will happen to Samon because both Sesuji and Samon are manga that can't grow, they have no potential. I'm sure that they'll have a meeting soon and cancel Samon then. We just won't know it's axed for a few months.

>>154348740
I'm sure Samon is already cancelled and they gave Numa Shun the chance to do a final arc to finish it off. But Spring Weapon is also getting killed next round.

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>>154348575
>Or would Numa just pull out some troll ending as kind of a final 'fuck you'?
Instead of making Samon end up with Tesshi, have Scumbros be OTP. Then they scummily skip off into the sunset and Tesshi sinks to the ground and says
>So this is what it feels like to be in hell
Cut to black, roll credits, mine the salt for years.

>>154348678
I've believed for a while that's how it's going to end (well, not the spoiler text, maybe)

>>154349380
>not the spoiler text
what happens in hell stays in hell
Teshi can even get a part-time job at the Succubus agency, she has a natural talent

>>154348515
I mean, it's better than nothing, plus Toei actually made a sumo anime a few years ago and it doesn't look too bad.

>>154348740
The thing about Sesuji wasn't that it has no room to grow, it was just heavily grounded in reality. Despite the cuteness and all, the talented people were still miles better than the actual protags, and it showed. If it continued, there's a high chance that Tsuchi-Wata still wouldn't be able to pass the prelim rounds.

>>154349826
They did have room to grow. The 2nd years also started from zero and got where they were. It still had a lot more points to grow upon as well. I wish we got more of it.
Still, i wish Samon survives and this is just a fake out.

>>154350068
They got to where they were in their first year because they had the talent, and they knew it. Yamaki himself was a sports prodigy when he was younger. Akiko more or less had the physical capability to keep up with him Keep this in mind, it plays a part in the finale

But you're right about growth. They can grow as people, learning to deal with being an upperclassman to their the new club entrants. But in terms of dancing, it'd be in small bursts. Compared to the likes of Miki and Miyadaiku, they're still very much small time.

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>>154348399
>I've found the last dozen raw chapters boring, I think the author doesn't really know what to do with the series.
I agree with this. Honestly the most enjoyable chapters for are the ones where all the human asshole kids decide to antagonize each other in their whacky adventure of the week. The demons are OK in small doses but the pillars aren't really that interesting to read about.

>>154350068
The Tsucchi-Wata duo definitely had room for improvement on the dance floor, but they've had plenty of closure during the final Tournament arc in achieving their main goal of becoming more self-confident in themselves. That plus the fact that the tournaments can't really get any grander than that gives me satisfaction in regards to where the story decided to end.

>>154325780
Take the first chapter of World Trigger and turn it into a gag series.

>>154352543
Yeah but they never beat their rivals or beat a contest. There were a lot of more characters that had there development suddenly end because of that ending. Be it cancellation or the author ending it because of fearing cancellation when he wouldnt be ready to end, it still had a lot more to go and it makes me sad we wont get more.

Go on Salmon. Sacrifice the souls of the newcomers.

>>154337970
I mean, I'm pretty certain we're getting it one way or another but surely we'd get a timeskip first.

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>>154349177
>Kai doesn't turn into a girl
Fug

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>>154352751
That's true, the omakes prove that there was so much room for some comfy character interactions and good old Shonen Jump rivalries. I'm just not sure if the series could've sustained all of that for a longer period of time after slogging through that long ass tournament arc.

>>154349177
>Tesshi turns around
>stares straight at the reader
>What, you didn't think I'd ACTUALLY go to Hell, did ya?

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>>154353952

>>154353952
>the real Hell was the friends we made along the way

>>154353803
He doesn't need to - he's already best girl

>>154334808
If Emma believes or gets scared at that taunt I'll facepalm myself.

>>154348575
>pic related
Where is the Samon sekrit club? That's where you guys are hiding the scans isn't it

>>154328110
Poro is an abortion.

>>154334540
Twist
Taiju releases the girl then she's the one who turns out to be batshit insane

>>154355811
I mean. She is just a kid at the end of the day.

>>154355811
>If Emma believes or gets scared
She ships them to their death and broke her leg, why wouldn't she believe it?

So since promised neverland and kimetsu won't have enough material for an anime until next year what exactly will jump do this year? They can't rely on only black clover and a mostly anime original borito can they?

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They pushed the shit out of Samon last year with ~15 CPs and this month 2 CPs

The sales are bad and dropping and its rankings are below average, it has zero potential

I don't see it surviving the next round

>>154356666
Yuuna, Hinomaru or Saiki S2.

>>154356666
Depends on what happens to zumo. It's in a fine position to get an anime except that it might end naturally. Otherwise they'll just make do with black clover,boruto and hero aca s2. Haikyuu is out of material and somas staff is working on other things (haikyuus CD/AD too). There's not much else in jump

>>154356803
Yuunas in the same position as kimetsu and neverland but it's harem so I guess it doesn't matter if it gets an early adaptation.

>>154356902
Yuuna is a very episodic manga, they could easily adapt it and make it one-cour.

>>154356748
If Samon was shit last year and it is shit now, why is it not only still running but still being pushed?

>>154357178
NUMA PLEASES EDITORS FOR HIS RUNNING OHOHOHOH.

>>154357178
Aya Hirano-ing (+bassist)

>>154357178
Numa is a semen demon confirmed.

>>154324990
>01 Haikyu c.238
Just goes to show that fujos and women account for 78% of postcards, even though they're only 27% of the readership.
It's time for Jump to rework it's voting system.

>>154357656
>fujos and women account for 78% of postcards, even though they're only 27% of the readership.
Source on those numbers?

>>154355859
I'm pretty sure some anons have been typesetting individual panels for shitposting purposes.

>>154357656
>even though they're only 27% of the readership
I read somewhere it was almost 50% of the readership since it's a very popular magazine. Can you post the source?

Why isn't Jump giving BC a new editor? With the current editor it will just keep rehashing itself over and over again.

>>154356666
nice quads.
Maybe a Zumo anime like the thread has discussed. Though Boruto and Black Clover are both being done by Pierrot, so they could stretch forever.

TPN spoilers when?

>>154358553
Literally in this thread.

>>154337828
My poor heart.

Ippo-era Madhouse could do a really fucking amazing Zumo anime. Badhouse era, eh.

Jump is really looking for some super smash breakout hit with international reach or something and nothing really is fitting the bill.

>>154359433
>some super smash breakout hit with international reach
I don't know why people think this, all of the series Jump's been pushing except for BnHA and BC the past 2 years are niche. Haikyu, Hinomaru, Samon, Kimetsu, Yuna, and Neverland are all things that they've supported with lots of color pages and promotion. And none of them except maybe Neverland can do well overseas.

>>154356982
The author/editor side comments from the start of the year also indicated getting an anime for Yuuna was something of a goal for them. I assume they wouldn't say something like that if they weren't getting some genuine interest.

>>154359871
>And none of them except maybe Neverland can do well overseas.
Why not?

>>154359871

I could see Kimetsu scratching the itch that Inuyasha did if it got more fujo.

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>>154337828
>only thing Norman packed was a gift from Emma

>>154337211
The Samon author mentioned them as his comment in the Vol. 8 release, I wonder if they're lolis?

>>154359871
What does well overseas generally depends on a good anime adaptation

>>154359433
Everything gets an international reach in this age of steaming.
Super smash hits don't come often and can't be forced, they learned their lesson with Toriko that's why black clover isn't being pushed in every corner.

>>154357656
>the best-selling series is ranked first
Hmm, I wonder who's behind this...