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What went wrong with Trigger?
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>>154305022
More people means better animation and higher quality due to extra quality checking processes.
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>>154305022
It shows. Maid Dragon isn't really any special at all.
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People too much faith in a studio with a batting average of .250.
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Nothing

Kyoanus probably has similar positions but doesnt just give staff any credit
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I blame Netflix.
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Maybe inexperience?
I don't know about everyone on that list but KyoAni's been doing this for longer than I am old and Trigger has what, 10 or so shows in 5y?
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>>154305022
I imagine Trigger has a much more strained and messy schedule which they compensate for with man-power.
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>>154305022
slavery
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>comparing the goddess of animation to a fledgling studio like Trigger
Not even fair desu
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Producer-san said they were behind schedule.
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>>154305022
A combo of falling behind schedule and having to outsource production
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>>154305066
It could also lead to a "too many cooks in the kitchen" situation.
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>>154305066
Yeah, like with Yuri on Ice.
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>>154305022
Successful kikestarter.
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>>154305022
>chinks and gooks
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>>154306329
I once watched a 20 minute video of a redditor arguing that underpaid chink outsourcing proves that defining anime as a Japanese cartoon doesn't make sense and therefore Avatar the Last Airbender and RWBY are anime, in between offering promotions for crunchyroll.

I hate anime fans.
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Nothing?
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>>154306436
Avatar isnt anime since it has good animation and it looks western.
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>>154305022
Episode 9 was outsorced, so that's why there's so much supervision.
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Is Trigger going to bother doing anything great, or will they continue with mediocre/deliberately shit stuff like Kiznaiver?
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>>154306925
Will Kyoani put his glorious animation skills to good use and make an action anime or will they keep pushing their SoL bullshit forever?
The closest they've come was with KnK and Musaigen, but in the end they both were awful stories.
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>>154307098
He has already made well animated action shows.
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Is the Trigger side supposed to be bad? It's like kid's play compared to most other anime. Have you guys ever looked at the staff listing on of a Mappa, Wit or JC Staff show?
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>>154307098
>KnK
>awful
fuyukai desu
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It's not Trigger specifically, this is just a matter of how Tokyo-based productions tend to end up compared to KyoAni.
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>>154307098
Why is it always action anime that people want KyoAni to do? And why are you arbitrarily discounting KnK and Musaigen?
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>>154305066
Usually with anime it means the opposite, it's a sign of poor planning and needing more people to finish the job.
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>>154307583
Because the only people who want Kyoani to do something different are kids from /v/.
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Trigger says they want to be like Kyoani but they still outsource everything.

Sad!
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>>154305078
Aside from 4 or 5 scenes, LWA looks worse that Maidragon
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>>154305022
>Tightly knit équipe of people who have been working together for 5 years vs a revolving door studio in Tokyo
Wow so hard to understand the difference.
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>>154305857
>https://twitter.com/kengo1212/status/835436147463467009
Dunno mate, their workplace seems pretty chill to me.
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>>154306925
They have already done great stuff, shitposter. Fuck off.
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>>154307812
>great stuff.
A series done a decade ago under another studio and a good OVA letdown by a mediocre continuation is nothing to write home about.
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>>154307098
At least they need to fucking learn how to make their SoL actually fucking funny or interesting. Maiddragon is a step in the right direction, but most of their anime is just fucking snoozeville
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>>154306436
Chink and gook outsourcing doesn't really take much of the production in the average anime, I'd say somewhere around 15 to 20%. Only endless shows like Dragon Ball or shit like that tend to have a majority of the outsourcing done overseas, but even then the key positions are still being filled by someone in Japan. Anime is animation MAINLY produced in Japan.
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KyoAni does everything in house, and usually animates the series in advance of airing.

This is not how normal anime production works.
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>>154307927
Are Korean artists more of a western thing?
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>>154307927
Yeah, that's my point. This guy was trying to argue that the definition of anime that people use is broken because it's not a 'Japanese cartoon' if it's outsourced partly to China and Korea. He made this argument so he could claim anime is a 'movement' that includes Avatar, RWBY, and Steven Universe. It was cancer.
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>>154305022
>Kyoani
>a 36 year-old studio
>160 staff members
>owned multiple buildings

vs.

>Trigger
>a 5 year-old studio
>with only 60 staffs
>who lived in 1 floor of a building in Tokyo

Next thing you're going to compare a small local fish restaurant to McDonalds. Go work on your inferiority complex somewhere else, studiofaggot.
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>>154308076
Trigger = dirty burger stand in the middle of a sidewalk

Kyoani = Local family restaurant with delicious food and fresh ingredients

Sunrise, Toei, Perriot, etc = McDonalds garbage
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>>154305066
Did you even look at the OP post? Trigger side is full of fucking Korean names. They're rushing to get animation cuts done. Poor planning, I agree with >>154307652
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>>154308167
Food analogies = retarded
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>>154308167
McChicken is the best fast food sandwich.
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>>154308167
Good job for missing the point.

Kyoani had a 36 years head start.
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>>154306436
Does this mean the Simpsons is Korean animation
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>>154308219
Trigger's side looks like any random TV anime. Not even nearly as bad as anything produced by Wit, JC Staff or Mad House. It's you don't ever look at the credits or anything. Hell, the staff for Kiznaiver episode 9 looked "worse".
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>>154308295
By this guy's logic, yeah.
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>>154308241
It ain't even chicken.
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>>154305066
Have you seen that chart with Key Animators and YOI having the most?
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>>154308271
>36 years head start
KyoAni's first work was back in 2003 or in 2000 when InuYasha started. Everything prior is not of any significance.
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>>154308241
Quarter Pounder is the best fast food sandwich.
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>>154307098

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0CJeDetA45Q
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>>154308351
Good taste.
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>>154308167
Disney - 5 Star Over Seas restaurant you can only afford once in a lifetime
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Anime must be ultra-boring right now if studiowar-threads keep happening.
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They're called KyoAnus for a reason.
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>>154307737
To be fair, one is a two cour anime while the other is one cour. It's really not a fair comparison from the start
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>>154307795
This is the same bullshit as silicon valley silly pictures. You get some random photos of employees playing with nerf guns or some shit when in reality its a shit job. This is the same thing.
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>>154308469
Anime is pretty boring right now. The next episode of GodAni's latest masterpiece is 21 hours away and Koe no Katachi's BD isn't out yet.
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>>154308349
>Everything prior is not of any significance

Oh fuck off. All those decades of gaining experience, gathering industry knowledge, building the brand name, making new connections, farming talents and you're telling me that those are useless.
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>>154308538
Why would i lie? I'm a Triggernigger, i know what i'm talking about. They seem pretty lax to me.
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>>154308566
>faming talents
Most of the people who continue from the early days are business people
The main creative talents at KyoAni working right now came in the 2004-2009 era. The same era that the Trigger team formed. Even half of their series directors come after 2005.
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>>154305022
Kyoani has more women. Women are more competent than men.
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>>154308691
>putting the hood up indoors
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>>154308705
The most talented animators like Kigami are from that era. You can't tell me that these old guards aren't seminal to the growth of the studio, fuck you.

>Most of the people who continue from the early days are business people

And those business people must be of no use, right? But oh look, Kyoani has one of the most solid business practices in the industry. Business people are totally not useful at all.

Now defend how a small studio in Tokyo should be compared to them to begin with.
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>>154308868
He just wants to be comfy.
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>>154308422
>All those filters
Kyoani is up to surpass itself.
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>>154308812
Are you one?
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>>154308691

Hand drawn animation is still an ungodly grind that will turn your bones to dust. It's fun when you're young, but the older you get the less youth you have to burn.

I can't imagine what someone in their late 30's or 40s would feel like. No amount of plastic shit on your desk can replace being able to relax on weekends or seeing your family.
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>tfw no studio will ever be as good as KyoAni
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>>154309102
>No amount of plastic shit on your desk can replace being able to relax on weekends or seeing your family.
Or even having a family to begin with.
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>>154309102
No one has passion for animation anymore.
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>>154309102
>No amount of plastic shit on your desk can replace being able to relax on weekends or seeing your family

The toys and figures are his family.
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Why do people care about this shit? I just watch whatever anime and don't care which studio makes it because it doesn't really matter. Is this an autism thing?
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>>154308469
It really is

Has anybody found a working torrent for Shin Godzilla that hasn't had the ending cut off or isn't in fucking russian?
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>>154308691
>Kamen Rider
Nice
>Faiz and Driver
nvm what a fag
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>>154309196

Hand drawn is a dying art, and what little still happens is made by underpaid and under-appreciated artists. Disney/Pixar/Dreamworks 3D animation is where the money and passion went.
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What a coincidence. It's another thread started by the sakugasitters from twitter.
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>>154309349
Wanting to know more about the things you like is normal.
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>>154308930
Because Trigger officials have said they aspire to imitate KyoAni's business.
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>>154309349
You are stupid.
But you probably shouldn't care about your stupidity anyway.
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The only thing I don't like about KyoAni is that they have their fair share of SJW fanbase.
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>>154310801
Same with Triggered
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>>154310801
Imaishi is a SJW approved director.
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>>154309349
They're /v/ crossboarders who miss their console wars.
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>>154310223
See? You couldn't.
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>>154310801
do you not remember how much SJW celebrated KLK? One girl wrote a fucking thesis on the female gaze or something
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Why is Trigger so lazy?
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>>154311465
that is a very efficient use of resources and I feel bad for you that you are autistic enough to notice something that insignificant
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>>154308076
>been around for 5 years
>already have kyoanifags shaking in their boots

They're at least doing something right. Based Trigger. Truly /ourstudio/.
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It's Yoshinari's first directing work and a 26 episode series to boot that's completely original.

Give him a fucking break. It's not like anyone does better than Kyoani on the production front anyway. Trigger is doing just fine with LWA.
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>>154311786
>being this retarded
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>>154308167
For me it is the McChicken, the best fast-food sandwich.
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>>154307411
That's why Toyama-based PA Works and Sapporo-based Satelight are flying high, right?
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>>154307583
They have all the skills for it, but waste them on people walking and talking about nothing.

Plus they could step out of their comfort zone.
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>>154310801
>they have their fair share of SJW fanbase.
Did you really forget all the KlK feminist rationalization bullshit or are you just pretending? If anything Trigger is infinitely more celebrated by that ilk than Kyoani.
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>>154308349
They were still a Sunrise contractor for Inuyasha. IY is billed as a Sunrise production (and all the other farm studios probably helped out there).
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>>154308167
What's Shaft?
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>>154312794
That's only KlK, not Trigger. anime SJW fags praise KyoAni for everything. Now with Maidragon they're pretending the show is an allegory for the middle eastern refugee problem and the discrimination "non-gender conformists" face. They did get triggered by the Shouta/Lucoa fanservice though.
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>>154312783
There's nothing wasteful about a studio placing more attention and focus on character animation.
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>>154309102
Some of Disney's originals (the Nine Old Men, etc.) were there from their 20s or so until retirement age.
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>>154305022
New studios tend to implode these days
https://mobile.twitter.com/honnyaku_blog/status/748552319222976512
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>>154310801
I've seen as much SJW thinkpieces on K-On being cancer as Kill la Kill being some feminist allegory despite there being no pandering or fanservice in K-On whatsoever, at least the 2nd season.
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>>154312978
What about how totally progressive Trigger is for supposedly making Sucy a flip? You can't win either way here. They're both popular studios and if you look hard enough you can find that bullshit anywhere.
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>>154310801
So I'm surprised that all the stormshitters here prefer them.
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Kyoani is a girl's slumber party and Trigger is a boy's club
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>>154312923
Taco Bell. They would've been shut down long ago if not for Pepsi shekels.
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>>154312978
>anime SJW fags praise KyoAni for everything.
Barely. I've heard from secondary sources that there are people pushing Maidragon as an immigrant experience, but it's a sure thing that most of them hate K-On!, Lucky Star, and any other SoL moeshit. Trigger aren't by any means 'SJW', but they get way less heat than anything KyoAni just because they're perceived as the biggest trendsetter in male-oriented bishoujo anime.

>>154313106
It's common, moe otaku in Japan have crossover with netto uyo as well.

http://neojaponisme.com/2012/05/30/are-japanese-moe-otaku-right-wing/
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>>154311465
thats what you get for outsourcing
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>>154311465
that's actually pretty intellgent from them anon
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>Trigger as popular as KyoAni

No.
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one trick pony
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>>154305022
>filthy foreign key animators
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>>154313050
Guess Zero-G is next
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>>154306689
RWBY is anime then?
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>>154315247
It certainly doesnt try to look like anime.
RWBY is its own thing since people like using it as an adjective to describe other media.
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>>154308241
The only good food McDonalds makes is the fries, everything else is garbage. You want a burg, go to In n Out or Whataburger.
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>>154307795
>sitting at your desk and drawing 16 hours a day and missing sleep to meet deadlines
>chill

At least you get to act like a complete autist and not get judged by your peers...as long as you work your ass off and put out endless high quality drawings.
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>>154315773
Incorrect. The McChicken is their best fast food item.
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>>154308691
>meduca figurine
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>>154318041
Yes and? You'll also notice that blonde main character girl from that manga series where the /a/ meme was about a disgusted otter eating a melon.
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>>154315102
>create fake charts in Excel
>fuck up the year label yesterday
>make it "kill la kill" for no reason today
>expect people to fall for it
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>>154309132
There will be if you can carbon-copy Yoko Hatta. Even I doubt her son is as genius as her.
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