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Dragon Ball Super
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>>154294748
You need a subject in the OP or the thread has a chance of getting deleted.
Anyways Goku put his faith into Gohan last week, could this arc perhaps he Gohan's time to shine?
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>>154294928
Are you fucking serious? The furfag gets to keep his thread but mine could get deleted?
Anyway I doubt this will be Gohan's time to shine since he has to not only start training again but reach SSJB to be as strong as Goku and Vegeta but at least we will get Mystic GOHAN again and not Jobhan.
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>>154295070
>Are you fucking serious? The furfag gets to keep his thread but mine could get deleted?
threads usually need a topic to discuss besides "Dragon Ball Super" I've seen threads get deleted all the time for insignificant reasons like that, just warning you for next time.
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>>154295324
not OP but you are a nice guy. Good on you mate
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Why does this series get a new ending every 2 months? Is this some modern anime thing?
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>>154295381
ending here as in ED song or end of an arc?
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>>154295324
Thanks for the advice, anon.
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come up with a new technique that isn't laser blast #1986548
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>>154294748
Toyo's SSB toothpaste aura looks amazing in color.
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Did the thread calling the clown GoD Pennywise earlier today get deleted or something? I had the thread open (and auto update on, of course) and forgot about it for hours because I didn't see any new posts. Just now I checked the tab I had open and it said it was on page 2 with the last reply being over five hours ago. I tried to post but it said that the thread didn't exist. Was it deleted or something? Why didn't it say "this thread was pruned or deleted" at the bottom of the page?
This is the second time this has happened to me today, I'm not even realizing the threads are gone until hours after the fact since there's no red X on the tab.
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could super perfect cell, or even power weighted perfect cell, beat current gohan?

i don't mean like a battle of special bullshit techniques, i just mean a straight up brawl
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>>154295760

One might say it looks..... Aqua Fresh!
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>>154295633
>laser blast #1986548
I will be hype for laser blast #1986549 and #1986550 too
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>>154295800
It was deleted cause of the 3DPD trap posting that got way out of hand and triggered a Mod so much and decided to delete it.
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>>154295849
But then why didn't it notify me in any way like normal when it was deleted?
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>>154294748

Why did they make that funny pitched sound when the girl with the flower appeared /a?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v5S-2-bAeC8
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>>154295849
The mods here get triggered easily
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post doggos
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>>154295819
Gohan's power level is near impossible to judge because we have nothing to judge against it. All we know is that at one point he got weaker lost his ability to properly maintain his Super Saiyan state, then trained again for a bit. Was strong enough to one shot Freezia's entire army of mooks but get knocked out by Freeiza.

The last fight made it seem like he has no problem going Super Saiyan anymore but we don't know if he was going 1 or 2, since they're very inconsistent with the lightning.
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>>154295800
Do you leave auto update on?

I've literally never gotten the red X on unless I tried to update the tab.
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>>154296120
half-breeds in db are stronger than full saiyans. don't ask why
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coming through
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>>154295525
ED song. We're getting yet another one in April
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>>154296155
When he went SSJ2 against Kibito his hair was much more spikier than previously shown or later on against Dabura (which had no sparks)
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>>154296196
Yeah, that tends to happen. Endings are more likely to change than openings.
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>>154296120
Just because you're half doesn't mean you're weak. If you're a Saiyan you're a Saiyan. That how it works.
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There is a relatively small time limit, everyone hates Goku and could cheap shot him with unkown abilities at any time, plus his SS form doesnt drain him since the Cell days.

Why the fuck is Goku even thinking about fighting captain ayy lmao with his base form?
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>>154296222
Yeah, he was drawn as a SSJ but written as a SSJ2. Everything about Gohan in Babidi's ship makes no sense. Can't even be an art mistake because he was drawing SSJ2 Vegeta and Goku in the same chapter
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>>154295760
SSR aura looks better, though
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>>154296245
Goku knows what he is doing when fighting
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>>154296255
>Yeah, he was drawn as a SSJ but written as a SSJ2.
>Everything about Gohan in Babidi's ship makes no sense.
(((You)))
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>>154295760
>>154296264
I like the aura in general, even in the anime with the different sound effects. It makes it seem like it's really an otherworldly transformation.
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>>154296289
It's a known fact you idiot. That's why to this day people still argue if he's SSJ1 or 2. Dabura is stated to be stronger than Perfect Cell, yet Gohan is matching him equally, despite being weaker than his Kid self.

Kaoshin is impressed with his power, and says Kibito didn't see Gohan's true power like he did, yet he's drawn as a SSJ1 despite being SSJ2 on Kibito.
Why is this place filled with so many fucking idiots?
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>>154296255
Nah I think Gohan never got a handle of how to control SSJ2.
I think we can argue that he was able to tap into that form because he saw his waifu get raped in front of him.
The fight against Dabura you can excuse him for the fact that when Kibito tried to heal him he mentions that his "ki has no limit!", he was never fully healed from getting his energy siphoned out of him.
The chapter where he was depicted with no sparks is the very same chapter where they switch panels to Goku vs Vegeta where they did indeed have sparks so I don't think that was a mistake.
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>>154296345
Dabura was toying with him and the fight never ended though.
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>>154296345
>yet Gohan is matching him equally
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>>154296264
True Rose is the best yet and it looks great even without color.
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To determine whether or not what super saiyan stage Gohan was in the Buu Saga one must count how many bangs Gohan has. Here is an example. If Gohan as two bangs he is in his first tage of super saiyan and now look at the second image Gohan has one which indicates he is in his second stage. Now let me ask you this how many bangs did Gohan had while he faired against Dabura?
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>>154296155

I don't even know if Goku or Vegeta even go Super saiyan 2 anymore or if it's just default shit.

Blue is the new 2.
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>>154296345

Gohan

*Studies hard
*Is Polite, Kind, and Considerate
*Isn't Rich
*Studies Hard
*Cares about his wife and family
*Gave up training, because there are only so many hours in a day

"Hey guys, Gohan is somewhat weak and nerdy now. Let's have a Rich, conventionally powerful guy try to bang his wife in front of him!"
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Is Goku going to win the fight with the peace trooper or lose and because he's so strong and be ultra motivated?
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>>154296528
1 piece of bangs against Dabura but his hair wasn't as spiky as against Kibito and he had no sparks.
The general consensus has always been that he is SSJ1.
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>>154296458
No it isn't you fool. Neither can damage the other. That's equal.
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>>154296544
Goku very explicitly went 2 against Trunks and the first fight with Black.
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>>154296544
It might be ambiguous for Goku Black in the manga but it's quite clear that Goku's bangs still look different between 1 and 2 in the Trunks arc.
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>>154296546

Gohan is such a cuck.
Redpill all the way, right guys?
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>>154296418
>The fight against Dabura you can excuse him for the fact that when Kibito tried to heal him he mentions that his "ki has no limit!", he was never fully healed from getting his energy siphoned out of him.
This doesn't work because after he fights Dabura, Goku gives him a senzu. Then he still doesn't transform into SSJ2 even though he's pissed and desperate against Buu
Later they show him as a SSJ2 training with the Z sword
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>>154296448
Dabura wasn't toying with him, and later ran for cover when Gohan shot a Kamehameha at Buu's shell.

If he were really Perfect Cell tier like they said he was, he'd tank it. And we saw Dabura is Perfect Cell tier in the Super manga when he was owning SSJ Trunks
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>>154296190
You posted the wrong image
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>>154296655
>>154296663

Yeah what about Bergamo or other fights? Why they never go 2?
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>>154296757
SSJ2 Trunks beat Dabura pretty easily so why couldn't SSJ2 Gohan if that was the case?
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>>154296794
Hair not nearly as spikey as against Kibito here: >>154296222
He is clearly in SSJ1 even without calculating for the lack of sparks.
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>>154296624
Not at all. He was SSJ2.
Vegeta even gets upset and mentions Gohan had more power when he was younger, he got weaker and his SSJ2 was even with Dabura power.
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>>154296794

is that really 2 though
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>>154296528
>To determine whether or not what super saiyan stage Gohan was in the Buu Saga one must count how many bangs Gohan has.
Yeah no. Gohan hair changed as soon the tournament started.
Auras (in the manga) are an actual source.
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>>154296789

I'm pretty sure we know who she was rooting for in the first match......
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>>154296829
If Dabura was Cell tier, his normal SSJ wouldn't cut it. Even Full power Gohan was struggling against Cell and this Gohan was stronger compared to Buu Saga Gohan.
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Is there a Beerus in the Future Trunks timeline?
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>>154296646
>>154296757
>Dabura wasn't toying with him

Except toying with Gohan was his fucking job, not kill him quickly. Don't you remember they needed ki to resurrect Buu?
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>>154296911
He died when Shin died in the Future Babidi and Dabura attack
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>>154296807
Because Gohan was weak and out of shape, which is why Vegeta was so pissed with him. Goku even said "wow he really let himself go!"
Gohan should have easily stomped, instead he struggled

>>154296920
You get ki by doing heavy damage, as shown by Goku vs Vegeta. Dabura got no ki whatsoever, because he couldn't hurt Gohan. Babidi was even complaining about it Again, that's the whole point of the fight. Gohan should have effortlessly stomped, but instead he was struggling.

Everything makes sense except he's drawn as a SSJ1, which messes everything up because SSJ1 Gohan should be getting bodied by Dabura like SSJ1 Trunks was.
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>>154296892
>and this Gohan was stronger compared to Buu Saga Gohan.
Do you mean Cell Saga Gohan? If you do you're wrong, Vegeta himself that's witnessing the fight specifically states he's weaker than before.
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>>154296134
they really liked it/ that much?
at this point I should probably draw more of him (and/or the others)
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>>154296836
>he got weaker and his SSJ2 was even with Dabura power.
which is head canon, he was clearly "weaker' because he didn't go SSJ2.
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>>154296789
I want to train under her and eat her homemade cookies after a tough sparring
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>>154296911

No because they killed the kaioshins idiot
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>>154297025
Him being SSJ1 makes no sense. Dabura would roflstomp him if he were SSJ1. Vegeta and Goku would be telling him to go SSJ2 if he were SSJ1. Instead they all acted like he was just a weak SSJ2.
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>>154297055
You can't apply any logic based on the past for this fight, don't you remember his ki was completely siphoned out of him merely a moment ago?
Kibito himself states his Ki is endless, he never got a full recovery.
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>>154297055
It really makes me wonder if Toriyama just hadn't settled on what "Super Saiyan 2" was yet. If 'SS2' is just 'full power', then it makes perfect since why Goku and Vegeta comment the way they do, for example.
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>>154297055
SSJ2 was his peak (at that time) during the Cell games. What makes you think that he would have access to it after years of slacking off
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Why are gohanfags the worst? Why won't they let gohan live his life by being a family man and not a fighter? Everywhere I go there's always a ton fuck of gohan fags mad at Super for making gohan look like a bitch, but he never liked training since the Z days
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>>154297002
I wrote that part wrong. I'm saying that Cell Gohan was stronger than Buu Gohan, and if Dabura was Cell tier, SSJ Buu Gohan wouldn't do a thing to him.
>>154297025
>which is head canon, he was clearly "weaker' because he didn't go SSJ2.
Not at all. Most of the fight is Goku and Vegeta pointing out that Gohan got weaker compared to him in the Cell games, Gohan and Dabura are even most of the fight and Gohan actually wanted to end Dabura to prevent Majin Buu resurrection. Full Power Gohan struggled against Cell, Buu Gohan SSJ1 would be curb stopped by Dabura if what Goku said was true (Cell=Dabura).
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>>154297093
That doesn't work because he takes a senzu after the fight, yet only goes SSJ1 against Buu's egg even though he's using his full power and cursing himself for not being as powerful as he was in the Cell games.

Again, this would all be fine if he didn't effortlessly go SSJ2 against Kibito, after he's calmed down from Videl's beating

>>154297141
Because he uses it on Kibito..
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>>154297108
Not a bad hypothesis considering Vegeta's sparks diminish prior to knocking out Goku and only flare back up when he eats the senzubean.
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>>154296134
>Ol' Sticky Fur
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>>154296789
do you think she makes homemade cookies and chocolate to her GoD?
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>>154297093
>Kibito himself states his Ki is endless, he never got a full recovery.
That's more related to his potential, which did had a limit, being above Super Buu and Gotenks SSJ3. When Dende healed him against Buutenks also mentioned that he didn't got stronger.
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>>154297156
>Full Power Gohan struggled against Cell,
No he didn't, he got cheap shotted from protecting Vegeta and had a tremendous handicap with one arm useless.
Even then when he did unleash full power he managed to overcome Cell.
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>>154297208
What does that even mean. If Gohan can't get past Mystic then he's pretty much a poor mans trunks
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>>154297220
>he got cheap shotted from protecting Vegeta and had a tremendous handicap with one arm useless.
I'm not talking about SSJ2 Gohan, I'm talking of Full Power Gohan (SSJ1 full power). While he was stronger and faster than Goku he was still below Perfect Cell.
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>>154297275
well, wasn't him in the future of mirai trunks
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>>154297275
You can get above your potential but you need to train to that. Goku and Vegeta got to their limits in the Freezer Saga that's why thy don't have more zenkai. Gohan in the other hand wasn't able to get Zenkai after he became Mystic according to Dende.
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>>154297312
This was such an awesome moment. I don't know why it's now popular to bash the Cell saga.
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>>154296981
>You get ki by doing heavy damage, as shown by Goku vs Vegeta.
Except every character was totally surprised of see that Buu already absorbed energy enough because a fight with so many injuries as Goku vs Vegeta was isn't usual at all.

>Dabura could NOT hurt Gohan
>Babidi was even complaining about it
Yep, Babidi was complaining because Dabura had to hurt Gohan even more to resurrect Buu, because he wanted faster results, not because Dabura could not hurt him at all.

>Everything makes sense except he's drawn as a SSJ1
Except there's no problem with him being drawn as a SS because Dabura fighting seriously isn't a proved fact but a headcanon. It would make more sense if Gohan was SS2 and Dabura actually fighted seriously? Yeah but saying that regular SS makes no sense is false.
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>>154295070

Jesus fucking christ I regret posting the last thread. Woke up and saw I had brought nothing but the worst out of furries. I'd rather shit at least remain on topic instead of the spiral into degeneracy it seems to have inspired.

I am so sorry I feel literally nothing but disgust right now. Not even going to post any of my drawings, even if ironically - that lack of self control is just yeugh.

Have opening tumblrchan instead.
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>>154297001
>tfw to intelligent to surpass kakarot
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>>154297275
but he is
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>>154297208
>That's more related to his potential
No Kibito's direct quote is "He's still not back at full power... his KI is immeasurable"

http://mangaseeonline.us/read-online/Dragon-Ball-chapter-251-index-2-page-8.html
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>>154297201
Yes, and she goes all 'Come and get it!' with this face
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>>154297220
He only overcame Cell because Vegeta big banged him in the fucking back.
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>>154297406
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>>154297418
>He's still not back at full power... his KI is immeasurable
Which later got us to him having all his ki unlocked by the elder Kai. And it did had a limit, he was below Buutenks.
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>>154296239
so what happens if you get an organ transplant from a saiyan as a human? would you be eligible for SSB privileges?

why don't the human z fighters just wish themselves to be saiyan?
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>>154297478
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>>154297404
tumblrchan, toppo, U12 Angel. We've been getting a lot of plump and thicc in this arc lately. I like it.
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>>154297395
It's stated that the only way to get ki is doing damage. The only reason they were shocked is because they didn't expect Goku and Vegeta to have that much energy. Killing them takes all the energy at once as shown in these 2 panels

Jfc, you're arguing against the manga itself for your fanfiction.
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>>154297509
Senzu can regrow limbs, cure Gohan's yiff poisoning, but not fix Goku's heart?
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>>154297502
ask Cell
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>>154297160
>Because he uses it on Kibito..
Minutes after see his waifu being almost killed by a sadistic crazy bald man.

>inb4 Videl was already healed
Yeah I'm sure if you were Gohan your heart would be totally calmed because she's good now and you would totally forgot the torture. Repressed rage? What's that? Nah, totally impossible...
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>>154297480
That's not the point. The point is "he was not back at full power" when he took on Dabura. That's plenty of enough excuse for him not to be able to go SSJ2.
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>>154297544
>>154297395
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>>154297526
>Toppo
>thicc
What kind of faggotry is this?
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>>154297576
Gohan was perfectly calm once he gave Videl the senzu. He was rational and didn't even want to transform. He only did it because his dad told him to.
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>>154297577
Because he was weaker it was necessary for him to go SSJ2 to stand a chance against Dabura. Goku mentions Cell Gohan could've defeated Dabura without a problem, just like he cleaned the floor with Cell.
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>>154297404

That's the problem with them, give them an inch and they'll want everything. I like your drawings though even if it is wasted talent.
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>>154297544
>>154297395
More proof
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>>154297544
>Pocus
literally who?
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>>154297509
And now we head over to Super and now Trunks became an absolute monster. It begs the question if Old Kai in his timeline given him his ultimate kai power up how insane would he be?
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>>154297624
That's exactly why he wasn't SSJ2.
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>>154297711
>arguing with this pedro
just stop people

His hair was spiked like SSJ2
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>>154297711
That's exactly why he was SSJ2. He had to compensate his power level with the other transformation. SSJ1 would've being defeated by Dabura instead of being even(which desperate Vegeta and made Goku feel bad about knowing Gohan didn't trained).
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>>154297758
this picture here >>154297544 proves that Dabura is a sadist and was looking forward to toying with his enemy.
Check mate atheists.
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>>154297709
Tailess Saiyans have bigger potential. Mystic Trunks could've being stronger than Mystic Gohan.
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>>154297751
Doesn't look nearly as spiky as this >>154296222
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>>154297664
Pui Pui, in japan, is basically the second part of a well known spell name
so a localization is Pocus from Hocus Pocus
another would be abra kadabura, but that already has dabura in it
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>>154297792
>toying with his enemy.
Which happen because Gohan was weaker and forgot how to fight properly. Only making Vegeta mad and mention again that Gohan was stronger before, thing that he also said when Gohan went SSJ2 against Kibito.
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>>154297819
I'm not going to argue with you Manuel.
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>>154297664
Pui-Pui

It would've been a translation choice by one of the manga translators, which isn't too far off.

The Buu related villains are all named after magical phrases from kids' fairy tail books or in Buu's case, Disney's Cinderella.

"Chi Chin Pui Pui" is pretty much the Japanese version of "Hocus Pocus", or Abra Kedabra.

But we already have Kedabra in the form of Dabura.
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>can't stop watching dragonball clips on youtube

>was planning on watching other anime, not now that I keep watching dbz clips

Fug I got dbz on the brain
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>>154297577
All we know is his power wasn't what it was against Cell
that doesn't default to "not ss2" just "not as strong as against cell"
If you think about it, even during the cell fight, Gohan had different levels of power as a SS2
there was his initial power when he transformed, but then after he beat cell the first time, he dipped, and when he beat him the second time he was faltering for awhile
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>>154297794
>tfw mystic trunks never in db heros or xenoverse
it fucking hurts
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>>154297948
He gary stu'd so hard he gary stu'd his way out of anime/manga canonicity into video game canon and became Time Patrol Gary Stu... I mean Trunks.
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Is this the best track from kai?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kuPEdEJf7Nc
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>>154297792
Dabura is sweating along with Gohan panting. They were evenly matched
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>>154297875
Good, because you barely have an argument Paco, just like how there's no sparks.
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>>154297794
It sucks Toriyama doesn't know what to do with the present tailless half saiyans. wasted.
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>>154297974
Now imagine having god ki stacked on top that that...
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How would DBS Toei Goku react to this?
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>>154298059
>YEEE

Someone in the crowd was high
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>>154297544
>It's stated that the only way to get ki is doing damage.
As I said, so?

>The only reason they were shocked is because they didn't expect Goku and Vegeta to have that much energy
Wrong.
>Babidi: Already..?
>Shin: H-how could this be..? Did they deal this much damage already..?!
>Gohan:... I get it now..! Dad's fighting at a power level beyond the Super Saiyan limits... and probably Vegeta too... so the damage is greater...!
They are talking about the damage. Being hurted means they got energy, even if your injuries aren't so severe as Goku and Vegeta's. Dabura hurted Gohan (pic related), and Babidi just wanted more, unlike you said.

>Killing them takes all the energy at once as shown in these 2 panels
I know what you think the panel says but it make no sense that way. You think Dabura is thinking in how he will not fight if Yakon kill them quickly and isn't worried about the energy (which would mean the energy is taked even if they just kill them) but that makes zero sense. If Dabura is talking about how quickly Yakon will kill them that means he would not fight, doesn't care if Yakon spend 5 minutes or 50 fighting, Dabura would never fight. The only way Dabura statement makes sense is if they aren't talking about Yakon's fight but every fight in the ship. If Yakon goes savage and kill them all Dabura would not fight, but if he just kill one of they Dabura still have chances of fighting (and they never mentioned if they got energy by killing, then). Sorry but what you thinked Dabura said makes no sense, you are saying he complained about not fighting... instead not fighting as well.

>you're arguing against the manga itself for your fanfiction.
But I'm not you, anon.

>>154297645
>you can kill them all except...
Yep, that's exactly what Dabura was complaining about, not having fighters to play
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>>154298059
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>>154298059
"You gotta a funny look on yer face Vegeta! xD"
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>>154298080
All 12 Angels are siblings, right?
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>>154298059
By threatening to kill Kaioshin and potentially dooming the planet Earth so he and Vegeta can have angry fight boner penis wars.

Buu ended up awakening and destroyed the world eventually, but that's ok, Goku doesn't have to accept or learn responsibility because of muh dragonballs - They had 2 sets and had changed the rules significantly to allow for more bullshit too. AND NOW WE HAVE 3.

Goku has always gotten off scott free because of desu ex fuck youchina.
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>>154298103
>hurted
Goddammit, I was taking you seriously until this
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>>154297591
>Gohan was perfectly calm
"Yeah I'm sure if you were Gohan your heart would be totally calmed because she's good now and you would totally forgot the torture. Repressed rage? What's that?" I mean, you really would just be calmed... not only externally but actually internally too? You're sick, then.
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>The very same chapters where Goku and Vegeta are literally covered in sparks has Gohan in it with no sparks.
>"b-b-but Toriyama is a hack and just forgot it for Gohan! xD"
stop.
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>>154296546
>Isn't Rich
Bitch, he married his way into the richest family on the planet barring the Briefs.
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>>154298157
What the fuck are you talking about
If you have no counter argument you can just leave anon
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>magma
>underwater
hmm
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>>154297149
Maybe because even when Gohan is being a family man he either gets no screen time or is the least interesting character since Kame who has a startling 5 min of screen time over the entire series.
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>>154298138

There was no other way for that to go down and you know it. If Goku had refused to fight vegeta, then vegeta would have just kept killing people and getting more and more power for buu, or just attacked goku out right.

But also, goku didn't fight vegeta because he wanted to fight. Well, at least not JUST for that reason. But because he needed to stop his friend.
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>>154298220
What exactly is your complaint?
Most magma on earth seeps up into the ocean floor, not on land.
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>>154298175
Not only sparks, SS and SS2 auras are clearly different in the manga but they just push le shitty bang meme. Do they know that would mean Gohan was SS2 every fucking time since the tournament, even training with the Z sword? But yeah of course Toriyama wanted to draw SS2 Gohan because he drew one bang, not two, he just forgot every spiky aura and every spark, every panel with SS(2) Gohan excepting the time Gohan actually said he will use SS2. Makes sense.
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>>154298220
Magma underwater coming into contact with water would cause explosions from the temperature difference. That's not magma, that's called magical anime red liquidy flamey stuff what does things that isn't completely unlike lava but fuck you.
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Reminder Goku could've easily manhandled Majin SS2 Vegeta if he went SSJ3 but didn't cause muh fighting.
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>>154298314
If he had went SS3 Buu would have probably instantly been released. The first time he did he nearly shook the world apart.
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>>154298314
>but didn't cause muh fighting.
Read the manga retard
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>>154298314
>uses up all his time left on earth
>uses up all his stamina so none is left for Buu
>can't even reach its full potential when properly alive

I mean yeah Vegeta was shit tier during the Buu arc but Goku wasn't very useful either.
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>>154298253
Don't bother reasoning with Toei shills
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>>154298314

That would be assuming vegeta would sit there and let him power up for 5 minutes like buu did. I mean, he might, vegeta's weird like that, but still.

But more than that, goku saw that the darkness in Vegeta which let Babidi take hold of him was frustration at his inferiority. Going super saiyan 3 and stomping his shit wouldn't fix that, and would use up what little time goku had to try and set things right.
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>>154298369

Goku's Super character direction is set by toriyama. Toei may exaggerate, but they are not the root cause.
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>>154298297
How the fuck people still don't believe he was ssj2, Gohan just seemed weaker because he was missing the anger he had against Cell.
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>>154296546

Gohan doesn't study hard, he only pretends to. Who in their right mind would fall for someone reading "A book for smart people". It's not even elaborated on what kindof smarts he has, he just pretends to read books all day, and attend meetings, yet none of that reflects on any of his actions during screentime.

He just comes off as lazy. forgetful and completely indecisive outside of being a familyman.

Gohan married into a rich family, Videl is the breadwinner here.
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>>154298314
I hate SS3 scrapped details. The stupid glow and the iris were totally scrapped after this chapter and SS3 Gotenks and SS3 Goku (vs kid Buu) looked totally normal the remaining chapters, but SS3 iris is famous now, is even in DBS manga
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>>154298314
Someone needs to pay attention.
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>>154296345
>it's a known fact because I say so
>source: my ass

no one cares, shut the fuck up anytime
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>>154298116
Keep posting that tired image dumbass. I like how you ignore the page calling him a hero, or him revealing he did it so Cell would be cocky and bait Gohan into transforming
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>>154298059
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>>154298387
They are, seeing as he's still in character in the manga.
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>>154298493
This desu
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>>154298116
Goku, trusting in Goyhan, oh those were the days.
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>>154298059
vegeta you so scary xD
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>>154298443
Dumb explanation, Kaioshin warned them that duking it out would result in Buu awakening, there is no excuse for Goku holding back against majin vegeta.
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>>154298445
Source is the actual chapters you retard, the pics have been posted here.
Everyone in story treats him like a SSJ2, but Toriyama kept drawing him as a SSJ1. Are you this retarded?
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>>154298560
>being this retarded
wew
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>>154298571

I like Botamo, I wish him and Cabba (and probably by proxy Frost and Magetta) had character development filler instead of watching Hit making the donuts, or the everyday lame that is Krillin in the police force or Jobhan being a disappointment. And most importantly jelly vegeta.

Seriously if the filler episodes followed the uncanny adventures of Botamo and Cabba instead, I'd be totally into Super by now instead of making fun of it.
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>>154295381

ED usually last for one season and OP for two. Most shounen do this too.
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>>154298573
>the story can work if he was SS or he was SS2 but according to my headcanon only works with SS2 so I'll ignore the fact he was SS
Are you this retarded? Wait no, we already know you are
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>>154298116
Just like planned.
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>>154295822
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>>154298624
>cabba
boring

the Botamo and Magetta show would be much better desu. honestly it'd be awesome if we had like 2-3 episodes getting to know the other universes and their contestants.

'cause, you know, having a big fight with chars you can at least reasonably care about would be nice
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>>154298688
Each participating Universe should have their own 2 or 3 episodes, introducing their characters and warming them up to the audience. It'd make Goku look like even more of an asshole and that'd be glorious
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>>154298131

Seem to be. The fat ones must envy the rest.
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>>154298633
They never last for full seasons in Super, they change during the season. Like right now

And the OP never changed until just recently. DBZ only had the OP and ED change only once
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Wait how did Dabura kill the kai's?
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>>154298922
He didn't.
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>Dabura

IS DABRA REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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Calling it now on super

The best planets from the defeated universes get moved to the winning universe before destruction.
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>>154296789
POOR UNFORTUNATE SOULS
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>>154299001
Kabula?
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>>154299117
or...they use the big dragon ball wish to bring those universes back?
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What did you guys think of when they announced that the tournament is going to be a battle Royale?

I think its going to be amazing.
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>>154297974
Still ultimately couldn't stop Zamasu.
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>>154299492
roshi vs fembroly has a nonzero chance of happening for several minutes of screentime
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OK so when do you think I should start with "WHERE IS THE LEAKS" again? I'm thinking about come back.. reborned and updated.
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>>154299567
Bruh, you don't do that shit until at least the 17th
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>>154299492
I'm a bit skeptical. I knew individual fights weren't going to work out, so I expected a universe vs universe tournament (eight 1 on 1 matches for the first round, then four 1 on 1 matches for the quarter finals, two for the semifinals and then the finals). It would mean a few episodes where Goku and pals don't do anything, but it would give a lot of universes a chance to shine, because two at a time would have an entire episode dedicated to them. We'd see cool and powerful characters being introduced, proven and wonder how U7 will fare against them.

This Battle Royale makes me feel like 90% of the participants will be jobbers and in the end only Goku, Vegeta, Gohan, Cabba, Frost, Brolette, the De Dangers trio and the Pride Troopers will matter. The rest will just exist to get their asses kicked. Perhaps even worse, it also trivializes a lot of the returning side characters from U7. 17 will have a few cool moments by virtue of being an absent character coming back, but I'm afraid Roshi and Tien will get their shit pushed in.

Maybe I'll be proven wrong, who knows.
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tenth-chan tenshi is bae
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>>154299579
But that's too much!
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>>154299644
>that face
I want her to step on my dick.
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>>154299644
>Loli-tenshi
>Dumbo-kun
>Senile tea drinking fart
>ZAMASU
Universe 10 is one hell of a universe.
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>>154299489
Likely if they want to cop out. Then again it would be a mistake to underestimate their laziness.

But Zeno should just be like "bitch! I just destroyed that!" Then destroy it all again plus the offending party (and universe).

Also I'm calling that the arena be so huge that somebody decides to blow a hole in the floor to chunk people in.
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>>154296120
I know they don't give a shit about actual science, but it seems like Saiyan DNA or at least the DNA in their speeeerm must change constantly, so that the power they gain is somewhat transferred to their offspring. Which is why Trunks and Goten were so strong as children and could naturally go ssj.
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>>154299857
Nothing to do with hybridization its simple epigenetics, Goku was powerful he fucked Chi Chi and more powerful when he fucked Chi Chi to create Goten.
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>>154299918
Where the hel do you find this trap qt's? Every time I google I get those "experiment gone wrong"
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>>154299918
and there you are
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>>154299951
Just admit you would let him suck your dick anon
>>154299949
Google better my friend
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>>154298364
SSJ3 Goku could knock Vegete out cold in the billionth of a second.
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>>154298443
Damn Goku with the bantz at the end.
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>>154299918
Stop making me question my sexuality you confusing me the fuck outta my poor brain
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no ban pls
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>>154299984
and still continuing that autismo spree, i see.
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>>154298531
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>>154299722
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>>154300052
Yes or no and I stop anon
>>154300035
Anon its ok its 2017 no one will judge. You can come out
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>>154298624
>or the everyday lame that is Krillin
That part could have actually been interesting if we got see Krillin being basically superman for regular humans then reminded how much he sucks at the end of the episode compared to everyone else.
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>>154300059
better
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>>154299722
>Gowasu revealed to have used the Super Dragon Balls to revive and enslave Zamasu as an entrant
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>>154300133
>entire u10 team are different zamasus
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speaking of when are team four cucks going to do their next fucking episode?
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>>154300151
what?
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>>154299918
>that
>trap

where's the buldge then
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>>154299930
Maybe that would explain SSJ but not overall power level.
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>>154300147
>Possibility of murdering that many ningen with the blessing of winning

How could he not, save suffering from a euphoric orgasm the entire time
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>>154300032
>that
>bantz
retard
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>>154300059
fixed
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>>154300201
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>>154300173
>>154300147
>>154300133
U10 team
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>>154300275
Could be as easy as "I wish that every instance of ZAMASU to have existed to come back to fill the roster on the team with the knowledge and lust and chance to prove their chance to Kill All Mortals and then vanish after the end of the tournament whatever the outcome"
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>>154300239
Now it's fixed
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>>154300166
>being so newfag
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>>154300239
thank you
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Remember not to lewd the angels
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>>154297001
every thread
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>>154294748
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>>154300660
Don't have to. They do a fine job of doing that themselves.
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>>154300696
get ur garbage hearthstone card out of here
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>>154300696
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>>154300704
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>>154300660
I already jerked off to them and there is nothing you can do to stop me from doing it again
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>>154300725
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>>154300660
>remember not to lewd GoD's sexual slaves
?
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>>154300708
>Laughs
>Not "Raughs"

Your meme card disappoints me anon.
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Who else thinks Gohan should ditch Goku's old suit and just wear his Great Saiyaman gear.

Good chance for him to have senseless banter about justice with the Pride Troopers.
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>>154297567
the virus killing him is a natural life-form, not a loss of stamina or injury
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>>154300890
Its hilarious how bacteria or viruses can still kill Goku and one takes advantagr of that at all.
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>>154300750
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>>154300792
I think he should.

His Great Saiyaman outfit looks great without the helmet and does an excellent job of giving his character a unique visual identity.

Also I personally think that green suits him better than orange.
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>>154300949
>Not "Your opponent now has only 5(20) turns until he automatically concedes."

Missed opportunity anon.
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What if Champa told Vados to suck his dick?
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Post results
http://ultradragonball.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Random
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>>154301385
Turles > black
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>>154301402
http://ultradragonball.wikia.com/wiki/G-Hill_The_LinkGod_(Garbear)
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>>154301441
>G-Hill is one of the few known smokers in the dbz universe. He frequents use of marujuana and other mind altering drugs . It helps him forget about the murders of innocent humans and namekian children.
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>>154301407
>Black
>A god who think mortals are dangerous creatures which ruin the universe with their pointless wars and hate. He decided steal Goku's body (and use it to purge the universe) to carry mortal's sins in his own shoulders since he see Goku as the personification of the failure of gods.

>Tullece
>IMAGINE IF GOKU DIDN'T HIT HIS HEAD. HE'S EVIL NOW
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>>154301490
>Black
>REEEEEEEE NINGEN

>Turles
>a saiyan
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>>154301490
>comparing a based af saiyan hero with his own pirate crew & infinite potential with muh ningens
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>>154301407

They're both bad.

I really dislike Japan's penchant for shitty evil clone characters, or "Hey this character's popular, let's make a clone of him in some sort of father / son / missing twin looks exactly the same as him story"
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>>154301641
>it's the moderate
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>>154301402

http://ultradragonball.wikia.com/wiki/Blazing_Saw

>It is five times more powerful than the Destructo Disk and can cut through Baby.
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So if Zeno decided to erase some universe and their Gods with it, each remaining universes will have 2 angels? Since angels can't die
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>>154301803
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>>154301385
>plebs and tryhards will disagree
Also I forgot some villains.
Dr Wheelo same tier as Dr Raichī
Zarbon/Dodoria in tier 3
Move Crane Hermet clan to tier 4
Recoome, Guldo in tier 1
Burter, Juice in tier 3
Jackie Chun in tier 5
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>>154294748
Why are DBS threads being deleted?
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>>154302981
too much shitposting
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>>154301402
http://ultradragonball.wikia.com/wiki/Pichan

Dat editing
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>>154298639
>the story can work if he was SS
But it can't, you stupid fucking idiot.
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>>154301490
>Tullece
>IMAGINE IF GOKU DIDN'T HIT HIS HEAD. HE'S EVIL NOW
>>154301518
>Turles
>a saiyan

What makes Turles bad is that he wasn't even that. He was just a generic evil conqueror type, not a dark mirror of Goku. He showed no love or excitation from fighting, just annoyance at people standing in his way when they put up a fight or enjoyment at beating them up when they were too weak to stand up to him.
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>>154299589

Sadly I think you're right. The 'esser' Universe 7 members will see short shrift because of this set-up as an easy way to sell the 'danger' of other members.
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>>154302981

Biggest reason is the one person spamming up threads with completely off topic "I fap to traps" and looking for people to accept him when pretty much everyone tells him to fuck off in which he retaliates by going full SJW and responding to himself and hating on the mods.

Previous thread got swarmed by furfaggotry and was beginning to veer offtopic but at least with all the furfaggotry it was still related to DBS.

I was responsible for posting the last thread and I honestly regret it because it felt like furries just shitposted the thread completely off topic at intervals but some good denizens of /a/ managed to put it back on track.

Shitposting about DBS is still posting about DBS, but when you get pissy about your opinion being disregarded or invalidated to the point you start posting shit about your dumb fetish - that's completely unnecessary.
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>>154303097
Pretty much, hopefully things stay on topic.
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>>154300042
kek'd
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>>154301368
She would rewind time and do something to distract him from asking the question.
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>>154301402
http://ultradragonball.wikia.com/wiki/Dick_Kamehameha
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>>154301490
Zamasu is just another batshit insane moralfag, what he should have done is kill every ningen stronger than him so the ningen dont ever pose a threat to the kais.
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Who is the coolest looking villain from all of DB any form
For me it's baby vegeta the white hair and everything
I want to seriously transfer my memories into this top notch form
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>>154303343
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>>154303343
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What if Merged Zamasu fused with another Merged Zamasu
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>>154301490
>Black
>faggot who is butt hurt he lost a sparring match also hurr durr mortals are violent savages! Imma kill them all slowly...
the Gods too because why not?
ftfy
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>>154303841
>still butthurt about an erased and forgotten faggot
ftfy
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>>154301407

They're both the same shit.

Doppelgängers are nothing but trash, anyone who unironically thinks Black is a good villain need a bullet through their skull.
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>>154299492
I was expecting this arc to be long. About 70 episodes or so. A battle royal seems to cut that down to about 40 episodes.
Only U7, Hit, Cabba, FemBroly, Bergamo, and Pride Troopers will have any big fights. All other fighters will be taken out instantly.
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>>154303962

I want to believe in Smugpup, is that so much of a crime?
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>>154303884
You mean Gowasu? Black seemed pretty happy to kill him again. Pay attention.
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>>154299117
I feel like the tournament is a way for Zeno to reorganize the inhabitants of each universe. He'll move everyone to a surviving universe before destroying it. He's cutting down on the number of universes that he has to look after, while everyone gets to live.
In the end no one was every in any danger of being destroyed
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Even though I hate doppelgangers, Black had the potential to be better than the others, because it had a slight twist to it - it wasn't so much a doppelganger as it was some edgy teen god stealing his body and using it.

However... the arc was so full of asspulls and bad pacing that it ruined whatever potential it had. Zamasu could've been a really fun and memoriable villain, he really could have, but a combination of bad animation, Goku being retarded, Trunks going full Gary Stu, and a completely rushed ending ruined it.

It's kinda sad that he's the best villain Super has had so far outside of Goku himself

If we were to include the movies then that title would go to Beerus, but we're talking about Super right now, not the movies.
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Leave the Goku menace to me!
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>>154303994
No. it is not, Smugpup cares for us all.
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>>154303962
Eh...It helps get rid of the " Goku/Hit/etc., sweeps fight fodder episodes".
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>>154304115
Since Goku is faster than time, can Toppa hug faster than reality?
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>>154304089
>bad pacing that it ruined
?
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>>154304186
Goku isn't 'faster than time'. He was just temporarily faster than Hit's time skip ability.

And that's assuming he's powered up to max. if he's caught off guard then its pointless
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>>154304225
>Goku isn't 'faster than time'.
>He was just temporarily faster than Hit's time skip ability.

You're contradicting yourself there, he is indeed faster than time at the moment. When he's fully powered up anyway.
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>>154304225
>He was just temporarily faster than Hit's time skip ability.
No he "stood at a level where his ability couldn't reach him" this is the same reason givein in the manga as well where his power was greater than Hit during that moment so that ability didn't work on him.
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>>154304115
You and Bergamo need to see some doctor
>>154303994
Yes. Believing in anybody but the one true god is reason enough for erasure
>>154304156
Lies. Heresy, you will extinguish very soon and you know it too
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>>154304288
The anime and manga have different continuities.
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>>154304288
Manga Hit was stupid. The anime did the fight better.
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>>154304352
Nah the anime version was shit.
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>>154304186
Goku isn't faster than time, he's stronger than hit and his ability to alter the flow of it.
If someone stronger than him had similar abilities they could mess with him like hit could.
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>>154304353
why do spics pair Goku up with every female
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>>154304353
These images are disgusting. Chi-Chi doesn't deserve this.
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>>154304352
i'm sure it did toeishill
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>>154304426
post the donut meme
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>>154304426
don't call somebody a shill for having a different/shit opinion makes you look mentally ill
>>154304466
do what he told you
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>>154304466
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>>154304534
I'll do what I want social justice cuck.
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>>154304604
>social justice cuck
lol wat?
you want to appear paranoid to others. Your freedumb buttboy
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nobody has the donut meme saved?
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>>154297948
Trunks looks so good with that outfit. Way better than Gohan.
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>>154304661
weird considering how much it was spammed. There was even a nice collage
Should've saved it
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>>154304466
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>>154304650
What the fuck are you babbling about, retard?
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>>154304736
thanks a lot man
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>>154304739
What the fuck are you babbling about, retard?
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Reminder Zamasu was a shit villan
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>>154304715
meh not really, only looks good on Gohan because his hair is black.
It would look better on an actual Kaioshin and not some Ningens.
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>>154304396
Because to them Goku is an idol. Recently they got mad when they discovered Goku wasn't a hero, just some dude with a pure heart that likes to fight.
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>>154304878
>Gohan shitposters are also Toei shills
huh
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As someone who has not caught up at all with anything dragon ball, why are people calling Goku a villain?

Unless they fucked up his character, all the guy ever wants to do is train and fight stronger people?
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>>154304715
Trunks looks good with everything. Somebody post Trunks with battle armor.
>>154304840
t.zamasu
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>>154304929
t.Mai
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>>154304918
Use Google dumbass
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>>154304958

A multiverse tournament is what I got from it, but it's not like Goku said that the loser gets his universe erased, right?
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>>154305018

He brought about the tournaments, wasn't aware of the rules, but doesn't show empathy or responsibility for it, had the chance to back down and spare all universes, would rather go ahead full steam without remorse and have his fight with strong guys regardless of consequences.
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>>154304929
>Trunks looks good with everything
I agree. he looks even better wearing nothing though.
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>The female Broly is from Universe 11
>not even a saiyan
How happy would you be?
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>>154305044
Mustic Gohan is stronger then trunks though
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>>154304910
>Toei shills
What are you babbling about? Goku is not a hero but that doesn't he is not going to help or protect his friends but he also likes to fight.
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>>154305041

Wasn't the ruler going to start purging universes anyway, or is that just people fucking around in the thread?
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>>154305018
>>154305081

It's not so much about the fact the Universes are going to be destroyed, as that is debatable whether or not it is Goku's fault, and even if it is completely not his fault, it's mostly Goku's current sociopathic behaviour and complete disregard for life that is bothering everyone right now.

Even if there was nothing Goku could do to stop these events from happening, he seems to not care and even revels in it.
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Leave the teamwork to me dad.

>>154305041
Zeno was going cull them anyway and if he held back against the wolf he would doom them all anyway.
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>>154304929
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>>154305136
Thanks
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>>154304910
That's because Toei is full of Gohanfags and they try to give Gohan more attention every time they can, even if he's not supposed to show up (see Zamasu arc).
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>>154305044
Can't argue with that anon.
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>>154305123

That's pretty fucked, but when has Goku cared about anything that wasn't his family and friends on earth?
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>>154305123

Pretty much this, people want Goku, even if he isn't completely responsible for all his actions, and even if he can be excused for all of them, to at least show a little empathy towards the lives who are now at risk, but he doesn't, and is doing the complete opposite where he is goading them and mocking them with complete disregard to their feelings.
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>>154305238
Rarely happens, unless the dragon balls aren't around in which case he tends to be a lot more serious.
But in this case it doesn't matter because the super dragon balls exist.
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>>154305053
>looks exactly a human
>has a transformation that makes your hair golden/greenish
>not a saiyan
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>>154305266

>super dragon balls exist

Ah, should have expect they exist. Reset ending I assume
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>>154305123
I get the feeling that Goku not caring is some type of ploy. That he's acting that way for some reason, which will be revealed later.

Goku's probably thinking, 'If everyone's going to call me the villain, I may as well play the role of villain. '
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>>154304288
>>154304380
>Time stop ability won't work because of POWER LEVELS XD

No, that was cancer, worst part of the manga by a large margin, for a lot of reasons, but mostly because they started using the power level nonsense again, when it was supposed to be something we left behind for good.

What is the point of giving an enemy a special ability if it can be nullified by simply overpowering him?
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>>154305238
Read the manga you retard
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Why are people spoonfeeding this clown?
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>>154305219
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>>154305310
This is has been my thought since the first episode of this arc or they just have autistic writers
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>>154305310
>I get the feeling that Goku not caring is some type of ploy.
Like him forgetting the Senzu Beans, the Urn and the seal right?
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Is Goku Jr. from the GT special the son of Pan and Goku?
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Are we having an episode this week?
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>>154305358
don't know it's pretty easy to just watch the three episodes
But hey more people watching/reading DBS is always good
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>>154305413
No
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>>154305411
Yes
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>>154305374
It's the latter.
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>>154299339
Kek
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>>154305358
nothing new around
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>>154305437
>2 weeks of people talking about hair and power levels
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>>154305531
>2 weeks of fun shitposting
I'm actually looking forward to this.
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>>154299492
i was disappointed. This battle royale is going to be a badly animated cluster fuck where we see barely any good action until the fighters are whittled down.
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>>154305580
>shitposting
>fun for anybody but the person doing it
Threads will be deleted.
People will be banned and routers will be reset
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>>154305623
>This battle royale is going to be a badly animated cluster fuck
Can't wait.
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does anybody else enjoy the little clips of super that tfs post on twitter?
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>>154305647
>tfw resetting your router doesnt change ip
ayy
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>>154305421
>But hey more people watching/reading DBS is always good
>wanting more people to suffer
Not cool.
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>>154305670
there ok
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>>154305647
Even the manga leaks will only come out in about 2 weeks, so it's not like there will be anything worth discussing anyway.
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I wasn't born with these dick sucking lips

I sucked dick endlessly
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>>154305684
must suck to not like DBS
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>>154305329
you can't expect toeishills to be literate, anon. They're too stupid to even breathe properly.
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>>154305729
I was, get jelly anon.
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>>154303057
Prove it.

>inb4 MUH HEADCANON SAYS
your assumptions =/ proven facts
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>>154303841
>faggot who is butt hurt he lost a sparring match
Not canon

>hurr durr mortals are violent savages!
But we are.
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>>154305730
Yep it sucks not liking a soul less cash grab.
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>>154305777
SS Gohan against Dabura would have been annihilated. If you're too stupid to understand this then further debate is pointless because you'll hopelessly cling to your delusions. People as stupid as you seem to be aren't even willing to entertain the notion that they might be wrong simply because they're too stupid to entertain said notion.
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>>154305740
smol trenks
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>>154305312
>Time stop ability won't work because of POWER LEVELS XD
>worst part of the manga by a large margin
That's exactly what happened in the anime you filthy toeishill
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>>154305846
>posts stills from an episode that aired almost two years ago
>c-cashgrab! s-shitty animation!
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>>154305874
so are Guldo's time stop powers better than Hits?
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>>154304794
Of course he was in the anime
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>>154305730
Nah, if I think it sucks, I'll simply not watch it.
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>>154305881
>implying the art is the only reason DBS is a soul less cash grab.
Top kek whatever fanboy.
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>>154305893
What the fuck are you talking about now?
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>>154305922
>oh teh noez a bunch of characters in the background aren't super detailed
Seriously, are you even trying, you fat fucking neckbeard?
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>>154305928
Guldo's time stop isn't affected by power levels they work on everyone
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Any good porn of Basil, bergamon and lavender?
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>>154305854
>SS Gohan against Dabura would have been annihilated.
But nobody says Dabura was fighting seriously you literal retard, only your headcanon still pushing that shit.

>also this much autism
wew
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>>154305312
>Time stop
Timeskip

>What is the point of giving an enemy a special ability if it can be nullified by simply overpowering him?
Are you new to series or something?
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>>154305846
Your attempts are futile.
I will continue to watch and read it.
It's been too long not having Goku and the lightheartedness of DB in my life. Yes even the GoD, little children deleting universes and the killing of toranksuu timeline is still not enough to make me sad

>>154305922
I was not >>154305881 btw just so you know before you try to use the fanboy insult
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>>154305969
there is a good pic of Beerus sucking Bergamon's dick
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>>154305969
No.
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>>154305997
source
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what if capt ayy lmao has a high voice
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I always thought Gohan went SS2 at the tournament tried to do it with debora but due to being out of training couldn't use it completely and had the appearance but lacked the aura to contrast Goku and Vegeta who did, hence why he couldn't stomp dabora like he did Cell.
my headcanon anyway

>>154305893
Yes, he isn't limited by anything but his lungs but it could be said to be retconned due to what Whis said in the latest manga or the difference in power back then wasn't much.
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>>154306004
it's on tumblr just look up dragon ball super
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>>154305960
Yeah so? Your point? Why you mention Guldo here if we were talking about how Timeskip being ineffective with people a lot stronger than user is canon point in the outline?
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>>154306037
>it's on tumblr

nigger you're gay as fuck for going on that site
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>>154306036
>debora
>dabora
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>>154306037
>>154306066
can't find it
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>>154306020
https://youtu.be/M7l7joQhmYE
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>>154306067
I had a stoke
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>>154306106
did u deid
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>>154306066
Well anon, considering he's trying to find a pic of Beerus sucking off Bergamo, going on tumblr isn't that bad.
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>>154306119
no
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>>154305975
As I said, too much of an idiot to even entertain the notion. Never argue with stupid people; they will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience. One day, perhaps, I'll learn to heed that advice.
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>>154306141
>http://tzar-volver.tumblr.com/post/158061340219/
finally some good fanart

more
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>>154306066
>you're gay because you visit a specific website
How old are you?
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>>154306141
FINALLY

I can't believe how slow if the fan art with this guys.

Furries dont watch dbs or what?
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http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm28030949
I really miss the old sound effects.
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>>154306145
So no proof at all? Nice

>Never argue with stupid people; they will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience. One day, perhaps, I'll learn to heed that advice.
wow you're so smart anon XD Except when it's about use actual arguments you know
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>>154306230
You have no proof, nor arguments, and you ignore anything anyone else says that contradicts you. You are ignorant, foolish, immature, and stubbornly insistent that because you think it, it must be right. Therefore, I have no further reason to continue "arguing" with you. I might as well attempt a debate with a brick wall.
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>>154306049
because Guldo's time stop is better than Hit's
>>154306036
>Yes, he isn't limited by anything but his lungs but it could be said to be retconned due to what Whis said in the latest manga or the difference in power back then wasn't much.
what sense does this make
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>>154306363
>what sense does this make
It doesn't, don't ever try to puzzle out an ESL's meaning. Just throw tacos at them to shut them up.
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>>154306420
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>>154304736
I don't understand this meme.
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>>154295914
She's going to be U6's ace in the hole. Screen cap this.
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>>154294748
Captain AYY LMAO
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MAH SKIN IS COOLLLLLD

TRANSFUSION WITH SOMEBODEH

MOROSE AND OLD
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>>154306442
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-pUSkxJxgc
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>>154306442
Hit's English voice in Xenoverse 2 is... questionable. He sounds like he's 17 and trying to sound like an adult rather than being 1000. One of his lines when selecting him on the character screen is the phrase "Time to make the donuts." And no one knows why the fuck he says that.
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>>154306506
What the actual fuck? Why does he say that? That out of place phrase bothers me more than the unfitting voice.
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>>154306558
>time to make the donuts=time to make money/time to put holes in my target
Dumbass ningen.
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>>154306363
well he has to hold his breath to stop time, and you could say the difference in power wasn't much back in the Namek saga compared to god mode.
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>>154306598
it's still equal or less than Hit's power what does the power difference have to do with anything
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>>154306504
calm down broly-kun
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>>154306617
Guy asked if the power was better than Hit's.
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Does Beerus still actively train? Elder Kai said when he was sealed that the sealer (Beerus) was strong but not as powerful as Super Buu at the time, which would imply that Beerus trained at least back then. What about now? I can't see him being content to sit back as the Saiyans keep getting stronger and eventually overtake him.
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>>154306661
if Guldo can stop time for people that are stronger than him than it is
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>>154306686
That was before Beerus was thought into existence by Toriyama
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>>154306285
>You have no proof
But I'm not you, anon.

>you ignore anything anyone else says that contradicts you
Oh the irony

>because you think it, it must be right.
Thanks to prove you don't even read what people say also thank you for point your own flaws. The plot can work with Gohan being SS or SS2, and your points claiming that SS Gohan would make no sense aren't based on facts at all, but your subjetive interpretation.
>inb4 yours are subjetive!
I'm not saying my interpretation is right by default (because I'm not you sweetie) but is the only which works with the art, the other one (yours) just pretends art makes no sense because you're the only stubborn who can't ever think on having an inaccurate understanding. "I though Gohan was SS2 but art clearly show him as SS? Maybe I should reconsider what happened? No, I already realized the truth and I can't be wrong, art just makes no sense that's all!". Pathetic.

>Therefore, I have no further reason to continue "arguing" with you.
Well you never had a proper argument at first place but it's OK I have no reason to continue with this shit either.
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>>154306710
which is why I said it depends if you want to take what Whis said into account for something that already happened and say the power difference back then wasn't as significant as it is now or just admit it's better than Hit's, minus the fsct you have to hold your breath.
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>>154306363
>because Guldo's time stop is better than Hit's
Since when is that the point?
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>>154306573
>Why does he say that?
Funimation.
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>>154306753
>Thanks to prove you don't even read what people say also thank you for point your own flaws.
>subjetive
>sweetie
>just pretends art makes no sense because you're the only stubborn who can't ever think on having an inaccurate understanding

Yeah, okay, Pedro. I accept your concession, now fuck off back to Taco Bell.
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>>154306779
Why do people call others "pedro" all the time in db super threads. Is it because dragonball super streams/channels are always some Spanish speaking youtuber. Speaking of which, why do south americans always get dragonball streams so fast. That and they make retarded prediction videos where something ridiculous happens like beerus killing goku black in the future.
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>>154306765
you're just assuming things though
>>154306770
since I brought it up
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>>154306765
Beerus said SS Goku's raw ki was higher than Hit's but isn't until Goku goes even further with SSG when Whis said Goku is stronger enough to break Hit's timeskip so looks like you must be waaay stronger than a timeskip user to break the technique
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>>154306856
assumption based on their demonstrations of power, which is how power level shit works
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>it's just 1 match that's 48 minutes (2-5 episodes) long
What
Well there goes this being a possible finale (but not really because it makes tons of money) for Super that lasts several months
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>>154306940
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>>154306938
no you're assuming things based on power levels not feats
Guldo's time stop worked on people who were stronger than him then you said it is probably because the power levels were weaker back then
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>>154306779
>no argument
>implying non fluent english means someone's spic
>implying I would feel insulted by this
wew that was embarrassing even for you anon

Come back when you can prove Dabura fought seriously or... idk something to actually support your argument
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>>154306978
How's Zen-Oh sama not the endgame of powerlevels?
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>>154300151
When they steal more ideas from me because they can't work an email or a telephone or properly hold a pen or pencil to paper when thinking about me.
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>>154306981
Come back when you can talk from sources other than your ass and can speak the preferred language, ESL cuck.
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Why is the Nintendo Generation so terrible?
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>>154300151
>>154307008
they just made a mini parody of dbs
check their twitter
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>>154296345

Perfect Cell was a lot weaker than SSJ2. A lot a lot.

Dabura being stronger doesn't mean he is automatically SSJ2 level.

Goku as SSJ1 then could fight Cell to the point where he was getting exhausted.

It is entirely possible that Gohan with an even stronger SSJ1 can fight Dabura.

The manga showed that Dabura slightly had the upper hand over Gohan who was also getting exhausted.


At the tournament he gets spikes (SSJ2) due to Videl. Goku and Vegeta both have sparks too.

Its really really obvious.

Was it 1 or 2 vs Dabura?

Easy. It was 1 =>> no spikes.
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>>154307007
I mean, I didn't actually think it was going to end this season. It's doing way way too well in Japan for them to end it now.
But I thought for once we'd get an arc that wasn't just 1 cour long.
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>>154306980
True, making his timestop superior to Hit's skipping if you don't take what Whis said here as true at that point.

I said there's two possibilities, go full autist and apply the argument Whis can't be wrong and come up with an explanation for something written after the fact such as the power difference should be higher than normal or that Guldo's is better based on feats.
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>>154307110
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>>154307060
they've made a few in the past too
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>>154304794
His weakness was shitposting and racism. Hence the gas, it's always the gas.
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>>154307110
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>>154304794
>Zamasu
>shit villain
Pick one
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>>154306506
"There's no such thing as a safe shards-o-glass freezepop."
>Forest Imps and their propaganda machine
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>>154298443
I never got this.

How did he see SSJ3 and the fusion dance in the afterlife, but never saw Bulma and Trunks get PINKED?
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>>154307495
>implying he wont focus on just goku all the time
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>>154304794
>>154305903
>>154307191
>>154307278
>>154307347
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ca3qvbdFSZk

Some days it's still good to be me.
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>>154304089
Do you like the manga version?
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>>154304383
That's only in the manga. The anime never explained how Goku overpowered his time skip
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>>154307539
Today is not one of them.
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>>154306598
That's filler. In the manga, he can do it without holding his breath
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>>154307598
Same to you asshole.
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>>154307561
well it's the anime so...
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>>154307620
SSJ2 Gohan should make a come back in the Tournament of power
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>>154307624
I don't get this meme
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>>154307698
You should, wouldn't you put the same face if you see a furry ass in between?
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>>154307698
Try using the old fashioned term "trend" and then you'll realize it's not a meme, it's a genuine psychological disorder in the form of electronic graffitti in the public showers of the information age.
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>>154297526
sing it, brother
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>>154307748
>>154307756
is just the same guy posting it over and over again trying to make it fun
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>>154299406
Kirby?
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>>154306978

Since they've reached almost the pinnacle of power in their Universe (challenging even the power of the Gods) the next arc will be when someone uses the Dragonballs to take the Ki power away from Goku and Vegeta and send them to a parallel reality where there power isn't derived from their hard work/training in the Martial Arts; but rather a system where it's dependent upon the items they equip and their EXP/lvl derived from killing monsters and completing quests.
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>>154307669
Hopefully, but I think he'll just reach a new potential/old one or something to keep him somewhat relevant to keep him different from Trunks.
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>>154307805
Oh, what a ningen
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>>154306978
>implying the match won't be longer
Frieza made 5 minutes look like several episodes, how a 48 minutes match will only last 5 episodes?
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>>154307848
>End of Super
>Beerus HAKAI's Goku and Vegeta
>They're not just killed, but erased from reality
>This reality
>They reincarnate in an alternate reality, where they are sent to a medieval fantasy world to defeat a powerful demon king
>The goddess who welcomes them informs them that ki does not exist in this world, but magic does
>To have them grow accustomed to this world, she offers the two of them one overpowered magic item, it can be anything they please
>Goku picks senzu beans
>He asks if he can go to the toilet before entering the alternate world
>Except he forgets the senzu beans in the bathroom
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>>154301402
Frost before Frost was a thing
http://ultradragonball.wikia.com/wiki/Ice_(UberMova_Version)
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>>154307669
>Super Columbine 2 in a free for all brawl
this is not okay
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>>154308027
Is this Yoshihiko? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xuOtjNa7jeg
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>>154308232
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQTn1QxCZ2s
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>>154301402
Pyro Saiyan must be the new form this arc
http://ultradragonball.wikia.com/wiki/Pyro_Saiyan_2
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>>154307278
>Pick both
ftfy
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>>154308419
Only a ningen would do such thing, ningen
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http://shiba.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/anime/1488733867/976
Stop being ningen and start looking after leaks
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>>154308729
What's Ep 85's translation? Google Translate is shit.
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>>154308729
If this is real then
"Son Goku forgive me! Justice warrior Toppo intrusion"
Another one bites the dust
Son Goku-kun is coming for the ayylmao and smug-pup freaks next!!!
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>>154308789
>82 is the fight agaisnt the lombax
>83 is goku looking for 10 fighters
>84 is about 18 talking about 17
>85 is about gohan mistic form
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>>154307053
Holy shit are you serious? Are you not baiting? Manga have no plothole with Gohan being SS (your interpretation of the manga =/= proof of that actually was what manga actually say) and art clearly shows a SS Gohan. If you wanna prove your interpretation is actually right, YOU need sources, proofs, facts. Manga shows SS Gohan, that's my source, if you want to prove my source says otherwise you need more sources than your ass-I mean... your "totally right" interpretation with no facts supporting it yet.

>ESL cuck
And you keep using shit like that as if you can use it to offend anyone with a brain... pretty sad.
>inb4 but you have no brain XD
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>>154308789
>>154308825
82 - Son Goku is unforgivable! The warrior of justice, Toppo bursts in!!
83 - Assemble Universe 7's representative team! Who are the strongest 10!?
84 - Son Goku, the scoutman. Invite Kuririn and #18.
85 - The Universes start to take action. Each one's expectations.
roughly translated by alakazam^ on
>Kanzenshuu
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>>154298675
>chatter chatter
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>>154308577

I never really did figure out Zamas.
Despite his claims of caring about the plight of mortals his problem seemed to be getting his ass kicked by Goku, more than anything else; maybe it was because in Trunk's reality the entire Earth had known nothing but violence and destruction for a decade. But even in the "present" timeline his main cataylst for going a murdering was getting beaten by Goku.

What am I missing? Would informing him that Goku had become a God make him more, or less angry? What drives this character, and his apparent contradictions, that I'm missing?

Is he just saying those things to justify his greed for more power at any price, just like the mortals he was criticizing?
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>>154298883
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>>154308878
he knows
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>>154307561
>manga
>Goku powers up and isn't affected by timeskip anymore
>anime
>Goku powers up and isn't affected by timeskip anymore

Literally the same exact issue but anime was too lazy and shitty to explain it
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>>154307669
Hes fucking fodder.
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>>154307848
Goku gets isekai'd?
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>>154308913
Mafuba lols at power levels.
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>>154308825
The defenders of ningen will prevail.
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>>154309186
Exactly Goku will prevail
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>>154309237
But goku does not protect ningen, he only fights for himself
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>>154309268
Both things go and hand in hand in this arc
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>>154307805
Fun stopped having a meaning at some point didn't it?
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>>154309320
Goku is no longer a ningen, he is simply an akuma
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>>154308882
>his problem seemed to be getting his ass kicked by Goku, more than anything else
>his main cataylst for going a murdering was getting beaten by Goku
Only in the anime.
In the manga, he decided to go on with his plan of murdering all mortals after seeing the Babarians and their violent nature. Then he stole Goku's body (after watching him fight on GodTube) and went to Future Trunks' timeline because that was the easiest one to take over first.
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>>154309186
My hypocrite detector is off the charto!
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>>154309361
You may think what you want friend no matter how wrong you are. Ningen have that freedom..
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I've been wondering, how does this work now? In Z we saw that Universe 7 only had one Kaioshin because Buu wiped them out and that there's actually meant to be five Kaioshin. But Super seems to depict most Universes as only having one Kaioshin and Universe 10 had a Kaioshin training a Kaio to take his place. Is Universe 7 just an oddity?
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>>154309501
I think it's more Toriyama forgetting plot points and forgetting that there were 4 Kaioshins simultaneously existing before Shin.
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>17 / 18's internal programming to murder Goku is still in place - this tournament gives them the motive and reason to.

>17/18 side with other Universes to take out the Goku menace.
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>>154309501
there are kaioshin of all directions and then one supreme kai. Ours current supreme kai used to be the east one
The top kai is supreme kai he and GoD only come to meet

The Top Creator and Destroyer only visiting makes sense to me
imagine 8 kais from 12 universes too much right?
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>>154309664
>It's called Dragonball Super Buu you assclowns
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>>154309501
That is the gayest hug I've ever seen in the Dragon Ball universe. This is gayer than Vegeta and Goku standing cheek to cheek with each other and combining their blasts.
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>>154309780
>>154309780
>>154309780
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>>154309723
I totally understand what you said to me
>>154309728
gay as in happy right? because it is not anything else no matter how dirty your head is
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>>154309579
I don't 17 and 18 really gave a shit about killing Goku. They just wanted to get it out of the way so they could dick around and do other things.

16 is one that really wanted to kill Goku
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>>154309794
I don't think*
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>>154308864
>Manga have no plothole
>proof of that actually was what manga actually say
>and art clearly shows a SS Gohan
>proofs

You can't even grasp the English language, Chong Pang Chow. Why would I or anyone else take anything you have to say seriously when you can't even comprehend the language you're attempting to speak?
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>>154310419
>no argument
OK anon
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