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>>154270335
Yes!

>>154270335
>a proposal of Nami and Sanji is brought up in a gag
Did this really happen?
Might posting the page?

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>>154270595

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Translation?

>>154270880
Nami's best outfit since the blue shirt, skirt and tie she wore in Water 7.

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I told you SaNa will be canon soon.

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>>154270698
>Nami in bold

what would be the changes you guys would do to One Piece lads? (other than common sense shit like "fix the pacing")

me
>logias can create elements but not transform into it
>Chopper is paracemia instead of zoan (already explained why in the other thread >>154264607)
>Pell dies
>Ace doesn't die
>Sabo has a zoan df (lion or smth)
>no more buffed fridge upper bodies with skinny legs

>>154271359
Other than Pell dying your ideas are bad.

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>>154271119
I feel like Jinbei is referring to 2 other people. Caesar and who else?
>>154270585

>>154271450
Oh, that scene. I see, thanks.

>>154271414
not really but say why?

>>154271450
>Luffy
>Sanji
>Nami
>Chopper
>Brook
>Jinbei
>Carrot
>Pedro
>Caesar
>Watadatsumi

>>154271512
You don't deserve an explanation. Well, maybe I'll give you skinny legs thing, that's kind of grating too.

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>>154271450

>>154271554
I can explain to you why I guess

>logias can create elements but not transform into it
would fix the gigantic asspulls that were the Luffy vs Crocodile and Luffy vs Enel fights

>Chopper is paracemia instead of zoan
it's not like I'm changing his powers, only the classification, cuz he being zoan makes no sense

>Ace doesn't die
I would prefer if he stayed alive so he could reach his full potential, but don't really mind if he dies as long as Sabo doesn't get his devil fruit

>Sabo has a zoan df (lion or smth)
Sabo being Ace 2.0 is retarded, Zoan so the 3 brothers can have the 3 types of devil fruits

objectively good tbqh

>>154271694
>would fix the gigantic asspulls that were the Luffy vs Crocodile and Luffy vs Enel fights
Would also mean there's be no difference between a Logia and something like Kalifa's Paramecia.
>he being a zoan makes no sense
He's an animal that gained human intelligence through a zoan, it makes perfect sense.
>so he could reach his full potential
He didn't have any, he was an idiot who got his ass handed to him by Blackbeard as if he'd never fought an opponent with CoA.
>Sabo being Ace 2.0 is retarded
Which is why it's good Sabo has completely different goals and where Ace was polite and aloof, Sabo is rude and psychotic.

>>154271359
>>logias can create elements but not transform into it

So... A paramecia

>Chopper is paracemia instead of zoan (already explained why in the other thread

It's bullshit. He's a regular zoan with more tranformation he unlocked through drugs. No need to change anything.

>Pell dies

Good. Lim being alive took away all the merit of his "sacrifice."

>Sabo has a zoan df (lion or smth)

Why not.

>no more buffed fridge upper bodies with skinny legs

Who cares? It's a One Piece classic now.

>>154271694
>would fix the gigantic asspulls that were the Luffy vs Crocodile and Luffy vs Enel fights
You don't even know what asspull means

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>>154271578

>>154271829
>Would also mean there's be no difference between a Logia and something like Kalifa's Paramecia.
kinda yeah, don't really see the big deal, you can be strong while only having the ability generate your element, as seen by Magellan

>He's an animal that gained human intelligence through a zoan, it makes perfect sense.
no it doesn't, a Zoan df gives you the ability to transform into a certain animal (either full or hybrid), Chopper didn't gain the ability to transform into a human and a reindeer-human hybrid, he gained human characteristics (just like Luffy can't transform into rubber, he has rubber like properties)

if you translated that to Pell for example, he'd have eagle characteristics 24/7 and would be as smart as an eagle

>He didn't have any, he was an idiot who got his ass handed to him by Blackbeard as if he'd never fought an opponent with CoA.
WB didn't think the same, doe again, don't really care if he dies as long as Sabo doesn't have his df

>Which is why it's good Sabo has completely different goals and where Ace was polite and aloof, Sabo is rude and psychotic.
nah, Zoan is better, and they ain't that different btw

>>154272162

So, basically you are saying Logia shouldn't exist.

And you are stupid as fuck. Brain point is the hybrid form, heavy point is the human form and walk point is the reindeer form. He's a regular zoan.

>>154272162
>don't really see the big deal
If Enel couldn't turn into lightning, he'd have been killed before Luffy ever got to him. You're advocating for removing a huge chunk of the world for really stupid reasons.
>he'd have eagle characteristics 24/7 and would be as smart as an eagle
But Chopper is in the hybrid form all the time as his base form.
> and they ain't that different btw
Yes they are, try paying more attention.

>>154271958
>So... A paramecia
yeah only the other characters with those powers like Magellan and Mr 3 would be considered logias now


>It's bullshit. He's a regular zoan with more tranformation he unlocked through drugs. No need to change anything.
it's clearly not but okay


>>154272007
>I'm made of rubber hence my body cannot be electrocuted as rubber is a natural insulator
>that's why I can bypass your intangibility

either way it's fucking retarded

>>154272338
>yeah only the other characters with those powers like Magellan and Mr 3 would be considered logias now
What would be the fucking point of that?
>>154272338
>that's why I can bypass your intangibility
The rubber prevents his current from going anywhere, leaving his molecules stuck in place. Yeah. Totally.

>>154272268
>human form
>it's still an hybid

seriously is it that hard to understand that you're supposed to transform into the animal your devil fruit represents? in this case being a complete human

and no, even in walk point he has human like intelligence, cuz yeah you still haven't managed to explain that, why didn't Pell get eagle like characteristics when he was not transformed?

it ain't hard to understand you dumb fuck

>>154272501
>seriously is it that hard to understand that you're supposed to transform into the animal your devil fruit represents?
People who eat Zoans still retain their human intelligence AND human vocal cords in their animal form you know, the transformation never goes 100%.

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>>154272501

No, it's not hybrid. Heavy point is just human. Look, he's hairy around the neck but that's all.

>>154272614
Stubble on his shins, too.

>>154272413
>The rubber prevents his current from going anywhere, leaving his molecules stuck in place. Yeah. Totally.
no? did that actually made sense to you?

>>154272652
It made sense in the anime-sense, know what I mean?

>>154272547
yeah but that's the other way around, we're talking about characteristics of the animal existing when he's not transformed

>>154272614
he still has an animal nose and heavy point has fur so no

>>154272684
oh I guess , well yeah I could let that slide cuz it's an anime and you're right about logias not being capable of transforming into their elements would just make them paracemias

ain't letting down the Chopper and the Sabo having Zoan df instead of Ace's

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>>154272708

No, it doesn't have fur. It's an anime mistake. It's a regular human nose but blue...

>>154273004
in the wiki says it's still has some of his fur doe it's the thing around the neck like you said

I think it's kinda stupid that it works with Chopper differently but whateva

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>>154271359
You didn't explain shit. Why the fuck would Chopper be a Paramecia. He's full Zoan.

>his devil fruit is more paracemia than zoan, all zoans seen so far chose whenever they want to turn into their animal (either hybrid or full form)
>Chopper on the other hand ain't reindeer who can chose to be an reinder-human hybrid or a full human, he just has human characteristics 24/7 and can enhance some of them thanks to rumble ball

But Chopper can freely chose when he wants to turn into his animal. He just chooses to stay in his hybrid form (Brain Point) because it gives him the positive properties of both animals, reindeer and human.
He can transform into his original full reindeer form (Walk Point) or full human form (Heavy Point) at any time he wants.
(Heavy point is his full human form. Like other Zoan fruit eaters, when he transforms into his full animal form, he keeps some features, like his fur, but loses others like his antlers.)
The only odd thing are his Rumble balls which just allow his to target and change certain areas of his body, like his horns or his fur, while keeping other parts of his body the same, but I'm sure that the Rumble balls would work the exact same on any other Zoan fruit user.

>if you translate this to any other zoan users, Pell for example, he would have eagle characteristics all the time and could enhance his sighting or his flight whenever he wants, oh and he'd be as smart as a eagle

Yes, if Pell stayed in his human/falcon hybrid form (he ate the falcon fruit not the eagle fruit you fucking retard), he would literally have all of these properties.

Chopper's fruit is clearly a Zoan. It works the exact same way as every other Zoan, with the original animal form, hybrid form and full devil fruit animal form. The only difference between him and others users is that he stays in his hybrid form all the time, and that he uses Rumble balls.

>>154272614
>When your pinky finger is thicker than your shin

>>154273481
Fucking Oda man.

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>chopper is clearly in pain on the ground
>says the smell of perfume is making him sick
>Vivi explains Chopper has a sensitive nose
>Nami instantly sprays more perfume on herself
What a fucking a cunt.

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>>154273444
Look at that fucking Guard Point. Please tell me someone else sees it too

>>154273777
MELLORINE
MELLORINE
MELLORINE

>>154273909
See what?

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>>154273444
oh wow so much text but still not capable of explaining how Chopper can have human like intelligence even in his reindeer form and how all the other zoan devil fruits never affected the intelligence of the user in any form

try again amigo

>>154274003

Intelligence is set on the maximum possible for all the forms. There.

>>154273981
His fucking face. I just immediately had "hue hue hue" going through my mind. Maybe I'm just going crazy.

>>154274003
Because he learned? A fucking Starfish can talk, for no other reason than he wanted to, you retarded cunt.

>>154273444
>>154272708
And to add on to my post, you say

>yeah but that's the other way around, we're talking about characteristics of the animal existing when he's not transformed

Zoan fruit users do passively keep the characteristics of both animals. For example, Rob Lucci and Jabra are both carniverous Zoans, a sub category of Zoan which

>...are more predatory and bloodthirsty than others by nature and as such tend to be better adapted for combat. Users that turn into such animals are naturally more aggressive and powerful in physical combat...

Even in there full human form they will keep the aggressive nature of their animals.

Another example would be that Boa Sandersonia keeps her snake tongue whilst still in her full human form.

In conclusion, its safe to say that Zoan users keep the best characteristics of both of their animals whether its human intelligence in Chopper's fill reindeer form, or the a cheetah's bloodthirstiness and aggressiveness in Rob Lucci's full human form.

>>154274003
Then you say
>still not capable of explaining how Chopper can have human like intelligence even in his reindeer form and how all the other zoan devil fruits never affected the intelligence of the user in any form

I'll give you multiple examples of devil fruit eaters increasing their intelligence when they eat Zoan fruit of an animal more intelligent than there natural form.
Every single fucking objects that has ingested a Zoan fruit gains the mobility and intelligence of the animal they turn into.

But I don't even know why I'm arguing with you so much. You're clearly an underage who can't read. Please go back to school.

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Year of Jinbe's death

>>154274003

It has been said that Zoan fruits give all the users a boost of strenght, and because of that they're the best for combat. All the human users of animal Zoan fruits get this boost. Chopper got a boost related to the fruit he ate, an intelligence boost.

Besides, it's not like animals in One Piece act as real animals. Most of them can understand different concepts, and all of them share a common language. That put most of them at human level intellect.

>>154274195
>Starfish
Probably some very rare kind of merman or Oda just a hack

>>154274003
in case you haven't noticed anon, animals in the one piece are super intelligent. see Carue, Laboon, Mohmoo, Lucci's pigeon. All the fuit gave him was the typical Zoan powers and human speech. And considering Lucci roars like a leopard in his leopard form. He can probably speak Leopard too.

>>154274258
Or it's just a joke. Wow. What a fucking crazy notion that would be.

Was there some idea that a Zoan becomes more like it's creature the more time they spend as the creature or something? Or am I thinking of some other show? I remember Chopper saying Carnivorous Zoans are more ferocious or whatever but I'm wondering if he said more.

>>154274117
actually he is the smartest on his brain point (hybrid form)

the thing is he ain't just a normal reindeer when he's on the walk point, it shouldn't be like that

his powers look more like having human like characteristics and being capable of enhancing them as you wish (some with help of rumble ball others without), brain point enhances human like intelligence, heavy point enhances his human like physics, jump point the legs, arm point the arms

only that doesn't explain walk point and horn point as those only enhance his reindeer characteristics, doe horn point also doesn't make sense with a human zoan df as it's not related to humans at all

so look fuck it, whatever you say lad

>>154272962
Lasto page?

>>154272962
Vizanon are you really going to blue ball me like that?

>>154274226
>I'll give you multiple examples of devil fruit eaters increasing their intelligence when they eat Zoan fruit of an animal more intelligent than there natural form.
Every single fucking objects that has ingested a Zoan fruit gains the mobility and intelligence of the animal they turn into.
yeah true that but was Mr.4's gun intelligent when it was in his gun form? no so fuck off

>>154272338

It's clear that Oda intended for Logias to all have additional weaknesses associated with their element to balance them. Smoker was owned by Ace because fire beats smoke, Crocodile was extra weak to water, and Luffy was strong against Enel just because their elements, it was not physics, it was just how DFs work.

I don't know why did he change his mind. Maybe he thought that having to introduce an elemental weakness would complicate most fights (how would you fight Kizaru? mirror gloves?), but anyway it's not that hard of a concept to understand.

Rubber being an insulator isn't the reason Luffy can hit Enel, rubber being an elemental weakness of lightning was the reason Luffy could hit Enel. Realistically speaking, even if rubber is an insulator, Enel was attacking with 100000 volts, that would turn any kind of rubber (and human flesh) into a little smoking black stain in the floor.

Is Sanji stronger than Big Mom?

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>>154272962
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>>154274522
Got busy, my bad

>>154274555

Of course the gun was intelligent when it was in gun form. How could it transform back into animal if it didn't have the intelligence to understand his user telling him to transform?

>>154274624
It's ok, tnx to all vizanons for posting!

>>154274258
>including talking intelligent animals in a fantasy world makes you a hack

>>154274649
now that you bring that up I couldn't really understand if it was Mr.4 who ordered him to transform into animal or not

>>154274555
>>154274555
Jesus Christ you're impossible to argue with. You must be autistic + retarded + 10 years old to be this delusional. It was intelligent when it was in gun form, it was able to fire balls without anyone pulling the trigger

So is Luffy just going to be missing a tooth forever

>>154274835
holy shit you sure like to talk shit a lot, are you fucking autistic?

and I'll give it to you that one for some reason on animals and guns they get some of the intelligence of their animal but with humans they get some of the agressiveness of their animal

now could you pls stop sperging out so much you dipshit?

>>154274854
That'd make me drop the series if he does.

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Why are they so perfect for each other?

>>154274959
*for some reason animals and guns

>>154274807

I assume that Mr 4 had to tell him to transform if it was to regularly change forms. Anyway, it needs to have any modicum of intelligence to voluntarily decide to change forms. If it were just an inanimate gun it couldn't even decide to change forms.

>>154275034
yeah I guess so, I guess the reason why intelligence ain't a factor for humans is cuz the animals are dumber

>>154274624
thanks, and is that cesar?

>>154274959
>and I'll give it to you that one for some reason on animals and guns they get some of the intelligence of their animal

They need intelligence to even use the Devil Fruit. Humans who eat Zoan fruits are already intelligent, why would they gain more intelligence for eating, say, the Orangutan Zoan fruit? Most animals are already intelligent in OP's world, Chopper only got the ability to speak human, learn and use tools, which are typically human characteristics.

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>>154273988

I think that, just like other anons said before, Zoans fruit give you the intelligence of the most intelligent form as a base. If that weren't the case, human Zoan users would have to lose their human intelligence when they fully turn into animals and that's not the case.

If Chopper had eaten a non human fruit, he would probably still have animal level intellect, meaning he couldn't speak or do medicine, for example.

>>154274991
Because random pairing generator.

>>154275139

Pretty sure, it's him. It's another costume of his after Cedar the pharmacist.

This is why you never argue with speedreaders

Whenever we have a Kaidoh arc, I expect Chopper to become more relevant. I find really weird that he's the only Zoan user in the world (or scientist, by the way) who found a way to unlock new Zoan forms, and that's a power that Kaidoh could really use.

In most cases, it would only give us more bizarre furries and nothing else, but some animals could lead to interesting forms. Elephant Zoan user with a Cannon mode that allows him to shoot a super water beam, or a Snake Zoan with skin change mode that gives instant regeneration, something like that.

>>154275143
my argument was that they should get dumber just like they get more agressive and the closer they were to the animal's true form they'd get dumber and dumber just like Chopper gets smarter

but I guess when it comes to intelligence it only takes into account the lowest common denominator so humans keep their human like intelligence

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>>154275185

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ODA, WHERE'S MY NIGGA ZORO?

>>154275369

Probably learning he's the descendant of a Samurai clan in Wano.

>>154275266
>human form looks like an adult buffed version of hybrid form
>monster point looks like an awakened version of a reindeer zoan df
>horn point upgrades chopper's reindeer characteristics evendoe he ate an human df
>"oi come on la, can't you see Oda made Chopper exactly the same as every other zoan"

I agree you guys are right but if you guys actually believe Oda made complete sense with Chopper's powers than you are delusional

>>154275669
oh sorry *adult buffed version of hybrid form without horns

>>154274959
Wow finally you read and understand my argument.
T h a n k y o u

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think chopper would still take a bath with carrot?

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>>154275797
wow the moment you debunked the intelligence thingy I admited you were right, almost as if you were missing the entire point for half of the thread

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>>154275733

No, dumbass. Brain point is a hybrid from and heavy point a human form. No reindeer characteristisc in heavy point at all. Just really hairy around the neck.

What happened to Robin and Franky? I legitimately forgot where they disappeared to.

>>154275669
Chopper's human form looks pretty weird to us, humans. How do you know other Zoans don't look weird to other members of their species?

>>154274983

See you for Two Piece then.

>>154275850
I see Toei went full Rebecca on her.

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>>154276140
Fucking how? Literally how? If you remember Zoro and Usopp how do you somehow forget Robin and Franky? This makes no sense.

>>154276143

Chopper is not even weird looking by One Piece standard. Have you seen Foxy or Moria?

>>154276076
is there any colored manga version of Chopper's heavy point? cuz what got me confused was his fur and skin color, Pell's falcon form only had his eyes, everything else was falcon like

>>154276261

I just know Toei fucked up. They made it look like he has fur on his whole body in heayv point which he doesn't.

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This bunny

A) would you be okay if she joined the straw hat crew if she joined as is? No tragic backstory revealed in the end, she's just a happy-go-lucky rabbit mink looking for the adventure of a life time?

B) would you only be satisfied with her joining if Oda expanded on her backstory? Gave her more development and expanded on her character before you'd have her in the crew

C) Nothing Oda can say or do to Carrot's character or background would convince you she'd fit in with the Straw Hats proper, and should stay an ally Mink on Zou and off the ship following this arc or Wano?

>>154276143
cuz they had all the animals' characteristics?

but look it all depends on how Chopper's heavy point is supposed to look, I based my judgement on the anime, probably shouldn't have

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>>154276261
He has fur in the manga but most Zoan users keep their hair styles when they go into their full animal form. Jack keeps his shitty bowlcut and Mrs Merry Christmas keeps her long red hair.

>>154276528

Give her incredibly sad backstory and I need her on the crew.

>>154276237
I'm sorry?

>>154276528
Option A for me. Not every character needs the saddest backstory of all time. It just gets boring at that point.

>>154276576

He clearly doesn't have any fur on his body on this picture though. look at the legs, human hairs. It's just weird around the neck.

>>154276572
And Chopper doesn't have the right characteristics?

>>154276615
No, I am sorry. They're with Zoro and Usopp, probably at Wano at this point or on the way.

>>154270940
I hope the Vinsmoke strip her. Bitch is asking for it.

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>>154274991
Muh nigga

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Is it okay to show something like this in a kid's manga?

>>154276237
Robin is forgettable trash

>>154276576
Lucci didn't doe, that's I always thought Chopper was weird
http://www.mangapanda.com/one-piece/422/13

>>154276886
>http://www.mangapanda.com/one-piece/422/13
I think Lucci keeps his little C-shaped beard

>>154276878
Kys

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>>154276870
Wouldn't see why not

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>>154276528
i choose A

the same way you don't need to be part of a special bloodline to be strong, you don't need to have a creative backstory to be strong. you can just, you know, be an individual.

the only reason all of the strawhats have a back story in the first place is because why the fuck not? it's something to write about and thicken the story, build the world. oda doesn't exactly need to bog down the plot with a backstory just yet, things are busy enough as they are. if we WERE to learn about carrot's past, it would be in 2-3 arcs, like with robin

>>154276528
I like her personality, but her design is pretty basic and her Electro overlaps with Nami's Clima-Tact. C for me. She's just not unique enough.

>>154277118
I never quite understood why Electro over-lapping with Nami's lightning stood out as such a problem. Zoro and Brook both use swords but manage to find their own niches with them

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>>154276870

I guess.

>>154276870
Considering how there is not a single drop of blood and they've shown much, much worse, yes. It is okay.

>>154276528
Oda is too formulaic for anything but A to happen assuming she joins at all.

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What are the chances of Capone betraying the strawhats as well?

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>>154277233
It doesn't bother me, but I get where they're coming from. Oda put a lot of effort into making all of the strawhats fighting styles unique. Luffy is really the only brawler, and brook isn't shown to have any exceptional swordsman-feats. Nami, Usopp, and Franky all use weird unconventional weapons, and you could say that Robin uses a form of martial arts. Even Jinbei isn't exactly a brawler, he hasn't shown any rush attacks, it's mainly just fishman techniques.

So at this point adding anyone is going to feel like an overlap, multiple swordsmen would give the show a strange vibe, but I don't think you can have too many brawlers.

>>154277536
100% unless it turns out he's actually not such a bad guy

>>154277536
Hes a goddamn psychopath of course he will betray them.

>>154277233
There's more visual contrast between Brook's fencing and Zoro three-sword style. Brook further differentiates himself from Zoro through his new ice sword and other soul related abilities. On top of that, their body types are completely different, which is reflected in their fighting styles. Can't really say the same for Carrot and Nami.

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>>154276528
Oda is certainly doing a bit to hype her up, I think.

She beat three of the Big Mom Pirates at once, albeit with surprise and a useful element (boiling water to conduct her Electro) on her side. Two of which were hyped up earlier during the ingredients hunt which leads me to believe she'll be paired against Amande next

>>154277536

When? How? He's not going to try anything against them before the Big Mom fight. Maybe using them as bait or something.

>>154278036
It's a triple cross

Bege was never actually against Big Mom in the first place and is being used to lure in the Straw Hats

>>154278068
>Bege was never actually against Big Mom in the first place

Never. He's after her 100%. He confirmed it last chapter, he was alone.

>>154276528
I say A) but her interactions with the crew so far leave much to be desired. I want Oda to show me more of her with other SHs instead of just Chopper. As is, I suspect she will be annoying, just Garchuing all the time, copying what Chopper and Luffy do and being surprised about absolutely everythimg the SHs encounter. There needs to be more to her character than that if she's not to be too annoying. What I do like about her is that she's a fierce warrior (cool to have a chick like that in the mix) and how she's innocent and cheery, kinda like Luffy.

>>154278068
I don't think Jinbei would set them up knowing that. Unless Jinbei is the best actor of all time, or Bege is very smart, I don't see this happening. Also, if Bege does this, he'll lose his chance to defeat Big Mom.

>>154277820
>there is no visual contrast between nami and carrot's fighting styles

what the fuck kind of non argument is this, god you people bitch about literally anything

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Post old shit

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>>154278022
if carrot gets a serious solo fight that's not off screen, she's confirmed a strawhat. we can all agree on this right?

>>154278289
You say it like it's up to us whether she joins or not.

>>154278289
No? Loads of people got 1v1s in Dressrosa. Fucking Pedro got a 1v1 that was mostly on screen. All the relevant parts of the fight was onscreen. The minks are gonna be allies. Cat and Dog are gonna start sailing again and Carrot and Pedro and whoever else will be on their ship.

>>154278289
Kinemon was listed as a Straw Hat in Dressrosa and characters like Kyros got full solo fights. Hell, Pedro just got one this arc too.

Until Carrot actually starts getting a story beyond "she's a cute sidekick" she's not going to be a main character.

>>154278192
Not enough. Did you even read the rest of it? It's just an opinion anyway. No need to get asshurt about it.

>>154278022
LAMB SAUCE
>LOCATED

>>154278022
Is it just me or has the Big Mom Pirates been rather disappointing so far despite their initial dread?

>Pekoms BTFO by Bege
>Bobbin BTFO by Bege
>Tamago BTFO by Pedro twice
>Diesal BTFO by Carrot
>Randolph BTFO by Carrot
>Brulee and Croc BTFO by Chopper
>Opera BTFO by Jinbe

Even the Sweet Commanders have had a less than stellar showing
>Cracker BTFO by Luffy and Nami, albeit with extreme effort
>Smoothie hasn't been BTFO but was completely rused by Brooke and was so incompetent at getting him Big Mom felt the need to step in

The only Big Mom Pirate that's been worth her salt so far is Big Mom herself, really

>toei can't think of a way to get rid of Carrot when they have to get back to canon content
>make a mini arc where the strawhats get lost at sea with no food and end up eating her
It'd be the best possible end.

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>>154278342
its up to us to recognize nakama-flags when we see them. its also up to us to disregard false positives, if Paulie is any example

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>>154278596
>>154278596
Ahh, but technically Bege is part of the Big Mom pirates so they're still impressive.

I guess.

>>154278827
What does the upside down exclamation in front of the words signify? Is it just the way you show exclamations? Or is there another reason?

>>154278596
they have, don't forgot another Sweet Commander also lost to Urougue

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>>154278640
>get rid of carrot when they have to go back to canon content

too bad carrot replaced law the official unofficial strawhat. inb4 "mink alliance" clearly carrot is different from the rest of the minks

>>154278827
The only nakama-flag I see now is Jinbe, could be a red herring though.

>>154278596

> Bege: Worstgen and Rook
> Pedro: Second only to Nekomamushi, captain of the guardian of the forest and 3xxM pirate captain
> Carrot :Genious fighter in the Musketeer squad
> Chopper : Future PK crew
> Jinbe: Ex-shichibukai, strongest fishman and
proved to be yonko commander lvl in Marineford

So no. Everything has been logical so far and they are really strong. Cracker is stronger than Doflamingo and he's maybe only 4th in the hiearchy. The number of strong pirates she has is just ridiculously high.

They will lose and get fucked in the ass, anon. Doesn't mean they are weak. It means their oppenent are strong.

>>154278827
The problem with most crewmate speculation is that people are still trying to use patterns from the East Blue saga era of the series to determine the final crewmates, when Jinbe's ridiculous recruiting process shows that's probably not going to be the case in the New World.

"Major character for this island with an interesting design who fights with the Straw Hats against the arc boss" worked when there was a much smaller cast of characters and when there was a lot of time to develop the characters. Now that we're likely approaching the 2/3rds mark of the comic and every island has a massive assortment of allies it's gotten a lot more muddied.

I don't think its a coincidence that Brook and Jinbe both have subplots connecting them to the crew even prior to their introduction (Laboon and Arlong respectively). Any new crewmate in the New World is going to have missed major turning points like the crisis in Enies Lobby, the separation and following timeskip, and possibly even the takedown of an Emperor. If Oda wants them to feel like a part of the gang and not like a tagalong, something even Brook still struggles with, they're going to need some major shared history with them so they feel like a natural addition to the story. Jinbe might only be joining around Chapter 900 but he's responsible for some of Nami's backstory, was friends with Ace, was Luffy's key ally during the Summit War saga, and was a focal character in Fishman Island.

I feel like whoever the final crewmate after Jinbe is will either have to be entirely out of left field to make it a shocking development, like Robin was, or someone who was introduced years ago. Kinemon's not there yet and it feels like Oda singled the Wano characters out into their own little group, but out of all the New World characters he's the most developed. Vivi is the best choice and the Reverie is the best time to force her to leave Alabasta out of necessity, but there's a lot of "what-ifs" there holding her back.

>>154279221
>Cracker is stronger than Doflamingo
Luffy only needed Nami's help to beat Cracker

He needed Law and almost every other Colosseum fighter to beat Doflamingo

>>154279408

> Other colliseum fighter

Ok. And we aren't going to have this discussion again on /a/.

>>154278948
It also happens with interrogations, its just so you know that you should give that sentence a given "cadence", I don't really know what the best word would be.

>>154279444
>And we aren't going to have this discussion again on /a/.

Someone go make a PW3 / UWR thread on /v/.

>>154278596
Bege has hax anon.

>>154273317
Yeah, he has fur like other Zoan keeping some of their caracteristic when they go in animal form.

Chopper one is being hairy.

>>154279655
Emphasis? Thanks anyway

>>154270698
>One Piece: The Phantom Tooth

Is he a Hack?

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>>154275369
Pounding this sweet ass

>>154280592
How did Tashigi get on Law's submarine?

>>154278986
post timeskip Urouge must be a beast though.

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>>154280592
He wouldn't fuck his captain's gal

>>154280522
>His tooth grew back on the same page
>I didn't notice until I read this post

Is this what people meant by speed reading?

>>154280592
How many times have Robin and Zoro actually had a conversation together?
I feel like they never interact at all.

>>154280667

Hancock?

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>>154280787
nah

>>154280706
It was a mistake. He is still missing a tooth next page

>>154280850
Pretty sure that's a midly sucesfull pic of Hancock with a weird outfit.

Last chapter converted me. I want Jinbei in the crew now. Strategic, ready to do fucked up things and a deapan sense of humour? Ok, he's not boring, i'm sorry.

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>>154280667
never understood shipping crew members. they're like family

>>154271119
>We're gonna go SMASH up Big Mom's tea party and the wedding!!

Oda paying tribute to Horikoshi, who could not participate in the issue this week because he is dying.

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>>154281488
You're excused.

>>154280753
How many times do you post this?

>>154281525
>they're like family

That's what makes it so hot.

>>154281488
I want to hear what Jinbe calls this plan. Every plan needs a good name.

>>154281635
That was the first.

>>154281525
>Zoro and Robin kids look disgusted
Cute

>>154280633
yeah I really like that Urougue ain't a "bottom trio" supernova anymore but still, it's a top commander of an Yonko

>>154281685
No it isnt. You do this everytime the pair is mentioned.

Why don't bege just poison big mom food? It would be so easy to have done it already. He has underworld connections, finding the strongest poison in the world wouldn't be hard

>>154281525
>Kid Chopper is not a normal deer.

>>154281707
I haven't even frequented these threads in months, let alone partake in shipping discussion.

>>154281774
Sure thing. Lets go with that.

>>154281735

Wouldn't be surprised if she has strong immunity to poison already. She can probably eat anything, her spite seemed acid as fuck back on FI.

>>154281843

saliva*

>>154281843
We are definitely going to see some poison happenings going down with Caesar, Luffy, Reiju, and Big Mom all on the island.

I bet Caesar has decided to recreate one of his gas clouds to escape, since that's the only research he managed to do successfully*, and what his lab at Punk Hazard was set up to do, which is the lab that candy creep copied.

*besides smiles

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>>154276870

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>>154282282
>I bet Caesar has decided to recreate one of his gas clouds to escape
That makes absolute complete sense.

>>154270335
It's the same shit NaruSaku had in the middle of Naruto. Don't take any of this seriously, or you'll hurt yourself. LuffyxNami is still endgame.

>>154282282

They might have brought him smiley's fruit. This fucking salamander is going to nuke Big Mom.

>>154282450
Except narusaku is literally LuNa, retard.
Sanji is not the main hero

>>154272322
>But Chopper is in the hybrid form all the time as his base form.
the problem with this is that his "human" form looks anything but human. every other zoan's animal form is EXACTLY, 100% that animal with no trace of the original owner. only chopper's fruit works halfway and turns him into a yeti that other humans instantly reject, instead of simply making him a human.

oda can retcon a simple explanation like saying it's the hito hito no mi model: bigfoot or some shit, but that was never before mentioned and the fruit is inconsistent with every other zoan.

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>>154278227
i have one of those

>>154281525
Just so know, women on pirate ships were fucked by every male on the ship I mean nonstop gangbangs. Nami and Robin should be walking bow legged everytime we see them due to how much fucking they should be getting.

In the cases where the women rejected sex they got raped and eventually loved the rape because in the sea you can do whatever you want.

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>>154278227
My fav.

>>154282544
Based on fanbases, NaruSaku is SaNa, NaruHina is LuNa. Luffy and Boa would be something like NaruSasu.

>>154282657
They are fortunate then in that the Straw Hat males are who they are

>Luffy: literally no sex drive
>Zoro: Is too fucking alpha for bitches
>Usopp: Is scared of both of them
>Sanji: Is too fucking beta to make a serious move
>Chopper: Zero interest in humans sexually
>Franky: Has a milf fetish, Nami is off the table though it is possible he and Robin are doing it on the side.
>Brooke: literally lacks the equipment

>>154282793
Chopper is a reindeer meaning he has a big fat animal cock.

>>154282787
>based on fanbases
Wrong, LuNa fags are the ones confusing friendship with romance like narusakufags were.
Are you baiting, faggot?
>LuffyxBoa like narusasu
Oh, you are baiting. Ok

>>154282885
>Zero interest
You can have a cock and not stick it in anyone.

>>154282938
There are no Lunafags here though you god damn cuck.

>>154282793
>Zoro too alpha
Zoro likes it 3 way style up his ass. He is katana sexual

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once carrot hopped on the boat, i felt like i won. every single moment carrot appears on screen feels like a victory, and if she ever actually leaves i will still feel victorious. i thought carrot was just going to be forgotten on zou, but she became a pivotal member in taking down a yonkou. im satisfied

>>154282969
Of course there are lunafags here.
They just don't shitpost their ship all over the thread.

>>154282946
We all know Nami and Robin are sluts that would suck animal cock.

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>>154282793
>implying

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>>154282793
>Boner boy incarnate lacks the equipment for boning
You fool!

>>154282938
>lunafag boogeyman

how to spot a sanafag: they pretend "lunafags" exist

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>>154283072
>western art
You proved him wrong.

>>154283053
Yeah I noticed LuNa fags dont shitpost.

>>154279354
Vivi has to take over her kingdom when Cobra dies/is killed at the Reverie for asking too much

She'll play a major part in the final war arc, since Pluton is there and all

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>>154282793
pretty sure robin wants a real man, and not a literal robo-ron jeremy

at least zoro and robin can hold hands

>>154283125
We weren't talking about just here, dumbass.
>how to spot a lunafag: quickly, DESPERATELY claim there aren't any LuNafags here

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>>154282653

What are you talkin about, anon? Humans come in any way, shape or form in the manga. Chopper is really classic. He has a neckbeard and that's about it.

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>>154283201
we do now!

>>154283298
Thats fine just dont do it after like one post in a thread.

>>154283319
>that's fine

>>154283347
Yeah I dont give a shit if you shitpost AFTER like 200 posts.

>fist comment is a sana shitpost

i suppose that was already a red flag. where else can i go to talk about one piece?

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>>154283248
>his <<<humanoid>>> form wasn't <<<quite human>>> either
it is a literal plot point that chopper's fruit can't turn him into a human, thus making him neither here nor there. if you want to argue the point you're arguing, chopper's ENTIRE backstory falls apart as a coherent piece of writing, even in the one piece universe

>>154283388
Kill yourself newfag

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>>154283394
Everyone is talking about this SaNami chapter, sweetie. What do you mean?

>>154283437
You first shippercuck.

>>154283543
You are the faggot saying it is okay. Retard

>>154282793
Brook can eat and crap without digestive system, breath without lungs, why wouldn't he be able to fuck?

>>154283432

> A fact made only too clear by his blue nose

He was a ugly reindeer with a blue nose. Turned into a gigant ugly human with a blue nose. He's a weird looking dude, in reindeer or human form. Just look at the picture i've shown you. Chopper fits perfectly as a human in the One Piece universe. The color of his nose is the weirdest thing about him.

>>154282657
Go away /pol/ and stop posting false facts.

>>154283720
>pol
No anon rape was rampant in pre-modern times.

>>154283578
Back to tumblr fag.

>>154276076
What's the deal with Oda drawing skinny fucking legs with a stacked torso?

>>154283671
the picture you used happened over 10 years after chopper was introduced, and is therefore a retcon. also are you really gonna put more weight into casual drawings than something an entire volume of flashback hinges on?

>blue nose
it's a separate fact from his human form not looking human. surely, as you said, since humans in one piece come in many forms, it took a bit more than simply being big and having a blue nose for the villagers to label him a monster. that's exactly the point of his entire character, if he could just be a human the same way any zoan can be an animal then there would be no point to his character.

>>154283206
I'm pretty sure that's exactly what's going to happen, but I haven't ruled out the possibility that she won't even be able to return to Alabasta after Reverie.

With the amount of people associated with the Straw Hat Pirates, including the likes of Dalton and Wapol, it's possible that her association with them might get leaked. If that happens and Cobra is killed for questioning about the Void Century I could see the World Government taking direct control of Alabasta themselves, since the Nefertari family is a thorn in their side.

Vivi's pirating sensibilities are coming back and she just made a big goodbye to her kingdom for the time being because of her trip. She's also approaching the New World now, putting her in the right position for her to come back into the story, and there's allies of Luffy's there to assist her if anything goes south. Which is bound to happen if the theories that Dragon plans to attack Reverie hold any water.

It's all just wild theories, and the fact Vivi's already made the hard decision to leave the crew is a big argument against the idea, but with no solid final Straw Hat candidates in sight I'm starting to consider the idea a bit more. People have been begging for a more active female character who plays into the crews antics for years, and after rereading Little Garden recently Vivi definitely fits that bill.

>>154283753
>trying to fit in this hard
You don't even know what you are talking about

>>154283741
>>154282657

But this post is factually false. The "woman getting raped by all the crew" is pure bullshit. Never heard of Mary red story ? Of Ching Shih ? If anything, the woman have a tendencie to fuck the captain/leader with said guy is not really on the "sharring with crew" thing on this subject.

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Is it too much to hope it'll be as entertaining as the G8 arc?

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>>154278227

>>154278068
They took out Bobbin so no.

>>154284143
Yeah it probably is.
Still, I do hope it'll be the case.

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>>154283832

> it's a separate fact from his human form not looking human

Not according to Kureha. You just posted it yourself.

He's normal looking for a human by One Piece standard. Drum Island were just isolated assholes. He's ugly, big has a blue nose and a lot of hair around the neck. Still human looking. Nothing wrong with his zoan, just look at Jack mammoth form.

>>154281540
Oh well, none of his manga are original.

>>154284496
Up until the Zou arc people always commented that Chopper was a very strange creature. Only with the minks did he find other people like him, and they're a very isolated race.

He's not the most absurd thing in the One Piece world but he's always been an oddity. Certainly not normal.

>>154284594

In his hybrid form only...

>>154284628
In his human form people think he's called a gorilla more often than not.

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reminder that carrot is only jolly around her friends, she's actually viscious and cold-hearted

>>154284143
Carrot is in the ark, so it should be somewhat fun.

>>154283832
>any zoan can be an animal

How do you know that a Zoan wouldn't be labelled as a freak among his animal species, for features that we as humans don't recognize to be big deals amongst animals?

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>>154285076
i hope we get to see carrot getting changed

what kind of underwear do you think she wears?

Why capones fruit inspired so much fear. It seems like any logia could fuck his shit up.

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>>154285354
Huh? Under where?

>>154285490
>>154285354
>>154285017
Carrot is trash and the straw hats doesn't need another mascot. The crew is already bland as it is.

>>154285471
He can literally pull things out of his ass

>>154285706
Monet is dead anon. You gotta learn to let go

>>154285838
>>154285838
Oda really needs to explain wat is the size limit to the things he can store inside of his fortress.

>>154285471
It has to work in reverse from what we've seen. Objects shrink when they get in his radius. Actually we have seen it - Capones meeting with Sanji. Capone is enormous.

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>>154285471
>Aokiji uses ice time
>barely covers capones ankles

>>154284143
bro the actual canon anime for the past few years doesn't even come close to the G8 filler arc.

>>154286231
Now post him doing "Ice Age".

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>>154285706
>>154285838
dont worry, she'll live on through carrot

>>154274445
Are you autistic? If Chopper were to switch to a reindeer form and retain animal intelligence, he would fucking run away from the humans and not realise the power he has. Within 30 minutes he would probably die from running into the water not realising he has fucking powers.

You are absolutely STUPID

why does franky have the best song/theme

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One piss in a nutshell.
Reminder the main character is a 5'8 manlet Brazilian and his fanbase are all underage.
Kingdom is better.

>>154288946
5'2 chink manlet detected
that describes kingdom desu

>>154286231
Ice time would easily cover Capone.

Even scaled down.

>>154274624
My boy Vito better get some sweet Renju pussy for saving her

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>it's a SaNa chapter

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Post the best fan art you got

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>>154289390
Okay, I'll start

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>>154289390

>>154289469
The most autistic draw I ever seen, thanks tumblr.

>>154276870
Impel Down.

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Vito has the Chaemleon fruit and will take out capcon and marry Renju merging bege gang and Germa 66 under the straw hat alliance

>>154274624
Bege better not job. I'm interested in how he deal with heavy haki fighters like luffy with just guns and his df power.

>>154289902
Seastone bullets.

>>154290009
He doesn't have any

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>>154289390

>>154290009
haki might blocks it, bege will have to be careful for not wasting precious SS bullets. Luffy is also a fast fighter with powerful punch in his gear 2.

>>154290065
He didnt have any zou its been weeks since then a nigga can restock

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>>154289390

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Nakama soon.

>>154290576
Fuck off pedro or bust.

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>>154289390

Bigmomfags will get EPIC btfo this arc

>>154271450
>chopper sitting on jinbei's arm

CUTE CUTE CUTE CUTE

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>tfw Usopp used to be a dank ass sniper, using traps and basically anything he could to get ahead, being a clear underdog but always trying his hardest using whatever he could
>tfw he got turned in to some gay ass plant summoner

>>154289672
if we assume sanji is 160 lbs then his worth in weight of gold is not even 3 million usd, that's about 350 million yen

>>154291003
Still more the Gottis bitch ass

Is Enel stronger than Sanji?

>>154290974
Look closer, Jinbei is just holding him by his horn.

>>154290984
I hope he fights a tricky ninja or something in Wano.

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Remember when they were a "monster trio"? Why did Oda shit all over Sanji?

>>154291831
"Character development"

It's been a build up to his power up.
He's going to unleash his fury at the wedding.

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>>154291973
>It's been a build up to his power up.
This. Soon everything Sanji learned at the kamabakka kingdom will be put to the test

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>>154289390

>>154290698

Who's the one being groped by Sadie-chan?

>>154291003
Still a lot of money though. Hell, it's higher than Zoro's bounty.

>>154292916
Baby 5

when does Wan Piss get good?

>>154292978
What's the conversion rate for Berries and Yen, again? Is it 1:1?

>>154293043
baratie arc/arlong park

tfw disgusting heteronormativity makes cis straight ppl ignore ZoLu

>>154277287
That line was severely mistranslated, Oden was making a pun on his name about how one should be.

>>154288946
>I never read One Piece: The Post

>5 hours till the wedding
So 10 more chapters until?

Is One Piece dying?

>>154295742
Yes, it's deader than Monet.

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>>154295742
Not with Carrot joining the crew soon.

>>154295742
How do you figure?

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>>154295496
>only 10

>>154295496
10 chapters until the wedding is 4 hours away

>>154295742
"Dying" is perhaps too big of a word, but it's supposedly significantly less popular (in Japan) than it was at its peak. At least that's what the biggest One Piece weeb says. It's still helluva huge though, it's position as the biggest manga isn't threatened. That said, I wonder if Wano hype + whatever movie Toei will make for 20th anniversary in ~2 years will manage to do what Marineford + Strong World once did.

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is nami a gyaru?

>>154297989
Funny how One Piece at its peak was Luffy solo adventure

>>154298024
No.

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>>154298024
>bitchy
>loves money and material things
>tsundere for senchou
>dresses scantily

i forget, do you need to be a slut to be a gyaru?

>>154271359
>Chopper is paracemia instead of zoan

Oda confirmed he's a zoan.

>>154292286

Why is Sabo comparing his dick with youger self?

>>154273777
what a fucking whore

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>>154276870
>kid's manga

>>154298076
it wasn't, it was all of the hyped characters that had been built up and hinted at for years gathering at the same place and participating in a giant clusterfuck with ~unforeseen ramifications~

also strong world had a bigger impact as the fist oda-movie than the latter two

>>154298203
Nah, just dress like one.

>>154281761
it's only natural from the hack

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>>154298907
doesn't the gyaru archetypically date the delinquent?

>>154298203
that fucked up ugly animation

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>>154298996
>Zomi
That's a new one.

>>154299247
kek

>>154299247
if she can't take the sword, she'll have to take the swordsman

>>154282793
>Ussop is scared
I think you mean Ussop is playing the long con, wherein he returns to his loving faithful wife and begins a family. After decades of happiness, sorrow, and tall tales his children and grandchildren beg him not to set sail one final time after Kaya's death.

He makes it all the way to Elbaf on his own and is given a viking funeral

>>154283025
where are the defeated ones now?

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SaNa is canon.