Monogatari

>>154254915
No. He's Araragi.

>>154254915

He's my hero.
I've always wanted to be in the FBi's list.

No. hes a pedophile.

He's a bad man surrounded by enablers

>>154254915
>young man
>hot bod
>level headed
>immortal-quasi vampire
>endless stamina

What's not to love

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>>154254915
He's a madman.

If you take Araragi and put him in literally every other harem series, he'd be fucking all the girls within 2-3 episodes and getting away with it. Just imagine if he replaced Kazuma, Darkness and Megumin deflowered nearly immediately. Aqua would be the only tough one because she could sense undeath. Shit, imagine if he took Subaru's place, he would fuck both Rem and Ram at the same time AFTER fucking Emlia. Every day at the mansion would be one big fuck fest, not even clown dick would matter. There is no harem he cannot break.

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>>154255176

>>154254915
Mayoi looks like she just came out from chaos;head or somethin

>>154254915
I wish I could be Hachikuji in that picture

Movie 3 subs when?

>>154255942
Not until BD release.

>>154255214
Literally me if I was a manlet

>>154257879
I want to stroke your abs and see you flinch and hear you moan.

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>>154254915

No.

>>154254915
Wow, Hachikuji is a billion times cuter with her hair down. She should drop the twintails.

Does anyone have a pic with araragi saying he would like to get a hattrick by breaking law, ethics and a little girl?

>tfw you can't even fap to certain monogatari doujins because they copy the writing and araragi's thought process so well

>>154258399
But that's what makes them fappable in the first place.

>>154254915
not really
he's a shameless pedo (in the context on the anime itself since he actively molests hachikuji) and the only people who associate with him are: his sisters, hanekawa, senjogahara, and oshino
the rest of the supporting characters are friendly acquaintances at best, meaning that at school araragi isn't very popular and thus people don't view him as cool in any sense.

he's not good at fighting, he's not good at speaking, he's not good at his studies, there's nothing really that admirable about araragi other than his strange moral code and determination.

>>154255047
He's a manlet

>>154258906

>people don't think he is cool at school

Rewatch Hanamonogatari, when Kanbaru namedrops Araragi her entire class erupts about her being friends with him.

>>154258906
He is super popular at school.
He is good at speaking.

>>154254915
He's a perv.

>>154258906

Speed watcher pls.

I usually hate harem leads, but I'd fuck him even if he's a manlet. If only all harem leads were this attractive it would atleast feel justified.
>>154255214

>>154262375

Ironic shitposting's still shitposting you faglord.

>>154262517
The irony of this post

>>154254915
How do you a Mayoi?

>>154262622
Insert penis and ejaculate the semen.

>>154259024
Not in japan

>>154261774
You expect me to read that 3d shit nigger?

>>154254915
He is the best. An inspiration to all of us.

>>154263205
173 cm average in Japan
He is 165 cm
Literally shorter by his little sister

>>154264595
>173 cm average in Japan
>I am 174
am I japanese size?

>>154264595
I'm 165 too. It's the perfect height for a human being. You're just jealous for being deformed.

>>154254915
he's not cool. he's hot

>>154254915
He's a cheating pedophile. If you like him you have to decide that doesn't matter.

>>154266471
if I don't like him then I have to decide I don't like myself too

>>154259773

In the "he's that celebrity we don't really know" sense. Not actual friends. Hanekawa is the same from a line Araragi says in Kizu about her being quite renowned as being the class president everyone goes to, and look what that does for her as seen by her confession in White.

Hell, Hanekawa even says that being a prince or cool isn't why she fell for him. Its because he is pathetic sack of crap underneath the bravado that tries his best is why she likes him.

>>154269376
>In the "he's that celebrity we don't really know" sense. Not actual friends.
That's not what you said though:
>meaning that at school araragi isn't very popular and thus people don't view him as cool in any sense.

It's explained that Araragi actively avoided making friends ever since the Sodachi incident, not what you're saying.

>>154258906
Kanbaru casually hangs out with him more than almost everyone you mentioned.

>>154258906
>and thus people don't view him as cool in any sense
A massive aspect of his entire arc in this series is him trying to live up to (and usually failing) the depiction of him that others have created, including the heroic delinquent repuation he has at school. People do "think" that he's cool.

I dunno how you managed to speedwatch a show as slow as this but you did it.

It's not about being cool, it's about making women think you're a suitable partner. Araragi may not win the title for coolest anime MC, but he wins in the game of evolution.

>>154269376
Araragi like the other characters is simply very hard to approach though, that doesn't mean they aren't popular. If they fixed that they'd probably have lots of friends in no time instead of keeping that closed circle. And every character is attractive, including Araragi.

But by the time they left, their absurd stories, fascination of other students and isolated nature made them legends at their schools instead.

>>154254915
Ii is better.

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ragi is ragi

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>>154258050
>mfw my only contacts are my mom and dad

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>>154272157
>Are you an Italian?

What?

>>154272229
Holy SHIT

>>154272157
>italian
I don't get it

>>154272589
>>154272287
I think the stereotype for Italians is they're passionate lovers? Or something

>>154272620
Italian greeting is a kiss

>>154271918
Araragi's a better and more likeable person, Ii is a thematically stronger and more complex character. I'd be hard pressed to say which of them I like better.

>>154272589
>>154272620
>>154272287
Italian old friends kiss no homo

>>154271826
So when's the story about some random Naoetsu high fucker trying to understand all the lore of the cast?

>>154261774
That was decidedly unfunny.

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>>154272157
As an anime only fag i was always every confused by this scene.
Isn't him and crab toghter at this point?.
I know they take a break at some point but that comes during college right?

>>154273099
crab now she's technically second fiddle to bat

>>154272779
Arc about someone doing a documentary about the japanese Jeanne d'Arc origins and goes looking for testimonies from her close friends but everyone just talks about Araragi, especially Sodachi who has all of her parts edited out.

>>154273229
>Somehow manages to track down Oshino

>>154273142
>Best girl winning
Nice.
I feel bad for crab tho, she's cutie and top gf material.
Had she been in any other series she whould have been best girl by such a large margin it wouldn't even be funny

>>154273312
But she is best girl in monogatari.

>>154261774
Cool Wall the worst part of early Top Gear

>>154273099
they don't take a break, but every other girl is just better than crab. he's also kissed his imoutos and all the lolis. Kanbaru is next

>>154254915
it depends
In Kizu he is pretty cool character. Sure, scared of getting killed, but being hero despite this
In Bakemono, he is pretty cool, dependable guy wo tries his best to help (unlike pathetic usual oblivous beta MC)

In nise i was wondering if this loser is the same arararagi,
In mono2nd i was disappointed when he appeared at the end of cat arc, stealing her spotlight at grande finale
Kaiki as a MC was blessing
and his little role in Hana was pretty cute, outcast edgy kid turning into a noormalfag. Even tho he looked like a girl

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>>154273447
Take that back

>>154271172
They are all beat by Shinobu, or is that unfair?

>>154261774
>neo-/a/
Get already back to /v/.

>>154266471
>He's a cheating pedophile
Being pedophile is fine as long as you don't rape someone, so Araragi is cool for me.

>>154275499
ok ahmad

>>154275499
because having sex with 3 yr old is totally cool

>>154273099
Shinobu was always there first, Bake was her & Araragi having a spat. You can infer that from Bake alone (the stuff with the helmet and so on).

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Sometimes.

>>154273762
>stealing her spotlight at grande finale
She saves Araragi's ass all series even when she isn't asked to, I dunno why people have an issue with it being the other way around for once and it tied into everything else in that arc nicely. It's not like it ever happens again either.

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>>154258278
I got you.

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He's pretty hot, no homo

>>154273762
Nise onwards was basically Araragi continuously failing at everything in life and Nisio insisting that the "only you can save yourself" thing still applies while doing the complete opposite (the only girls who didn't get coddled by someone else to "be saved" in the end were Senjou, Kanbaru, and Sodachi)

>>154275809
Hachikuji and Shinobu aren't 3 though.

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>>154259024
Could you imagine being under 6ft?

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>>154276933
>Could you imagine being under 6ft?

>>154276496
Hachikuji aside, not being attracted to Shinobu is probably indicative of some sort of brain defect.

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>>154277196
>not being attracted to Hachikuji

Between her and Araragi, the flirting is hardly one-sided.

>>154277285
Yeah, but I can imagine a few scenarios where a person doesn't find her attractive and is still sane.

>>154276388
>you can only save yourself
>Araragi saves Hachikuji from hell
>Araragi saves Tsukihi, Karen and Kanbaru
>Kaiki saves him from Nadeko (granted, he may have been able to save himself there at least)
>Mememan himself gets saved by Hanekawa

This might be a shit morale that even in his story doesn't work at all

>>154272779

They wouldn't be able to find anything about Hanekawa, because she literally went home to erase her records as "Hanekawa Tsubasa" at the Hall of records one day, Sodachi talks about it in Musubi.

>>154277444
Isn't it applied to the context of personal problems though? The ones that provoke emotions that give birth to oddities?

Obviously a cop or a firefighter can save people, but a therapist can't fix someones problem, just guide them into finding the solution by themselves. Araragi, Meme and others save them from the supernatural consequences, but can do little about the source problems.

>>154278150
It wouldn't make her untraceable though, unless she never used her real name in her adventures. She is very famous in Naoetsu, and people would also recognize her by pictures especially with her weird hair colors.

>>154264595
>mfw 180cm Japanese descent

There's something in the food or water there. Or it was all that hormone filled milk I drank growing up

>>154277444
>Mememan himself gets saved by Hanekawa

You're supposed to see the irony in that, since by her actions, she saved everyone. Very easily in fact. It must have really grinded Meme's gears.

I still don't know how he feels about the new Cat he met in Tsubasa Sleeping.

>>154277444
I'm pretty sure that the Memester knows you can save people from an external physical threat. He's talking about self-caused/emotional problems, which is what the series generally deals with. The point where it sort-of breaks down is with Araragi brute forcing Shinobu's issues.

>>154278389
**184 because apparently 30cm is not a foot.

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>>154276089
Why does the bat wear the helmet?

>>154278509
Not him and I'm a secondary but I'm gonna assume it has to do with head pats.

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>>154278490

>>154255176
What makes you fags think he could fuck all the girls in another harem?

He isn't Makoto.

He can't even fuck the girls in his own harem.

>>154278538
You're correct. Headpats are their "loyalty ritual" and Shinobu was pissed at him during Bake, so she wore it as a sign that she was rejecting Araragi. Then they made up during Nise and it's never seen again.

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>>154278490
>>154278624
The fact that Kamboru is so devoted to Ragi that she just forgets she is gay will never not be the hottest thing on earth

>>154276933
i cant even imagine being over 5ft

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>>154278960
in kanbaru date she says she doesnt think of guys often
so i think she is a little bi

>>154254915
Yes. He could "molest" me any day of the week.

>>154279087
shes just ragi sexual

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>>154279205
can you blame her?
have you seen his muscles

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>>154279205
Like every sane person should be

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>>154279256
>>154279256
>KANBAL

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>>154279307
thought the picture was cute
no idea what the artist was thinking?

It annoys me that Crab never really interacts with Shinobu or gets to see Araragi fight.

>>154279403
It's one letter short of "Kanbalu" which is a valid romanization of her name.

>>154279561
She would fail at her role/characterization if she did. Which is why she's not in the spotlight any more.

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>>154279403
swapped
feet

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>>154279621

>>154254915
Why is that loli wearing such lewd underwear?

>>154255001
fuck off memebroo

>>154277444

Those are physical things they are being saved from, what Meme means is only you can solve your actual problems (oddities), like only Hanekawa could deal with the tiger, only Nadeko could ultimately decide to pursuit her dream, only Araragi could deal with Ougi and so forth.

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He can be a scumbag but I can't be too bad at him for giving me best girl in the end

>>154279621
I noticed that, too. Wtf was the artist on?

Ragi turned into a loser, op, no thanks. He's just an orbiter for a handful of girls at this point.

>>154276388
Nadeko and Shinobu were the only ones where Nisio strayed from that and just had other characters coddle them into thinking differently instead. In neither of those cases was it Meme or Araragi handling it though so I guess it's not completely internally inconsistent, just a weird outlier at most.

>>154280017
I thought it was kind of a shame Meme saved the day in the end in Ougi's case instead Araragi's acceptance of her being enough.

It was a very cool moment don't get me wrong, but I think it kinda missed the point on the issue

>>154254915
Has Araragi had sex with anyone besides crabs?

>>154280231

It was neat for Meme to show up but I do agree with you somewhat. Araragi did the hard part in accepting himself and Meme was just there to save him from his suicidal action.

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>>154280317

He wishes

>>154280317
He didn't even have sex with her.

>>154280317
>Has been living alone with Karen while his gf is abroad

You do the math

>>154280317
Shinobu feels everything he physically feels, if that counts. The act of bloodsucking feels like a sexual experience for both of them too.

He lived alone with Karen for a significant period of time too, for what it's worth.

>>154280469
>>154280458
Lots of people lived with their sister.

>>154280702

How many people lived alone with the sister they mouth fucked with a toothbrush?

>>154280749
at least 1 on /a/

>>154280702
How many of those bath with them, kiss themm brush their teeth, touch their breasts, undress them and all but openly admit to want to fuck them?

Also, how many sister's tell their brother to take their virginity or suggest shoving toothbrushes up their bum

>>154280230
You could argue that Nadeko saved herself by putting effort in becoming a mangaka, and Kaiki just showed her the way. It's not like he solved her problems without her doing anything.

>>154266218
>This is what manlets actually believe.

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>>154277285
I would fuck this girl.

>>154280854
Nadeko deluded herself into thinking she had problems at all
She made Araragi the center of said problems, to the extent that Araragi became damaging to her just by being around
Kaiki shows up, tells her that she can do manga, then knocks her out and pumps her with slug oddities and then leaves

It wasn't like what Gahara did in Hitagi Crab, Nadeko was absolutely saved by someone else

>>154280842
Lots of people have bathed with their siblings and groomed them etc

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Wait there are people here that think that Araragi didn't fuck Karen?

>>154281003
Yet she was the one who took control of her life, dealt with her parents and grew up in a decent person.

She could very well give up being a mangaka at any point and just go back to the person she was. Maybe not a god anymore, but directly create oddities again.

>>154281194
Karen is apparantly 6'0 by Musubi
Koyomi is still 5'5

>>154281194
Show the scene where it happened

>>154281194
I wonder, do the Araragi siblings heights include their Ahoge?

>>154281194
he def. did, who hasn't he fucked? There was even the ep hachikuji left her backpack in ragis room, they fucked

>>154276496
I know that anon said he is cool with pedophile as long as it is not rape

Wil lany more of this get animated?

Judging by this thread the novels say what happens with some of the characters later, which I'm curious about but not feeling like reading the whole thing ( and just reading the final books feels stupid). Mostly want to know what happens with math girl and snake.

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>>154281318
The implication implied here is even more clear than Crab's gentle home walking.

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>>154281443

Yes. 100% the last volume of Owari will be animated. Anything past that is unknown.

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why is kanbaru so great

>>154280702
Even before then the two were all over each other and only didn't go too far due to Tsukihi intervening. Not to mention that by Hanamono, Kanbaru voices her concern over how close the two had been getting lately and this was before they even started living together.

They're probably just overly close siblings though, yeah. People probably give them initial weird looks and then just shrug it off.

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>>154281617

She's ok.

>>154281443
Both of them will appear in Zokuowari which should be animated maybe later this year, maybe next year, who knows

There are more stories, but we're not sure yet whether the Off-Season (and Monster Season eventually) will also get adapted. Both math and snek have story arcs there and in Math's case, everything related to her is also already translated

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>>154281617
she's a great friend that will do anything for you, fun conversations, lewd and sexy

>>154281668
Can still hear the sound she makes in this scene

How is Kaiki alive after Nadeko god arc

>>154282205
>implying he didn't become a spooky ghost just like his college buddy

>>154280451
>Walked home gently

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>>154281443
>math
Good taste, here is basically everything translated if you don't want to waste (and it's not clear if they'll adapt the next season, beyond zokuowari):

Her part in zokuowarimonogatari (out of context):
https://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=Monogatari_Series:Zoku-Owarimonogatari/Koyomi_Reverse_009

Her arc in orokamonogatari, plus her parts in nademonogatari and musubimonogatari:
http://mirroredtranslations.tumblr.com/all+translations

And subs for the commentaries between her and Senjougahara (Sodachi Lost):
pastebin.com/v37SD1at
pastebin.com/Fduhr2PT
pastebin.com/SJgtYjAY

Not sure about nadeko besides her appearances in tsukihi undo and obviously nademonogatari, both not translated.

>>154281668
how is kaiki so fast

>>154282563

He has been running away from stuff all his life, so he is faster than Kanbaru at doing it

>who hasn't he fucked?

Gaen, Kagenui, Snake, Doll, Cat, Math, Monkey's Friend, his mom maybe

>>154282563
im pretty sure someone said he did track in school

>>154278421
>I'm pretty sure that the Memester knows you can save people from an external physical threat. He's talking about self-caused/emotional problems

He literally said that Hanekawa was unmanageable and didn't bother to try to straighten out her scumbag parents upon meeting them, and even said it was okay for them to neglect and abuse a child because she was "stronger" than them and should know her power.

You're supposed to take his word with a grain of salt.

>>154254915
shitsurei kamimashita

>>154281360
>There was even the ep hachikuji left her backpack in ragis room, they fucked

I remember thinking, "Wait, what the fuck was Mayoi doing in his room?" Considering what he does to her in public, I can only imagine it's this >>154254915

>>154282640
>Doll
You sure about that one? I thought they were getting along rather well.

>>154283195
>You sure about that one?

When it comes to who's been Araragi'd, you can never be too sure. But now that you mention it, I do now remember that doll started getting wet for him and he did start to molest her. So she probably doesn't make the list.

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>>154282710
It's not just Meme who goes by that philosophy though. Even Hanekawa talking to Sodachi went on the same line.

>>154279561
>>154279601
I'm more annoyed she never interacts with Koyomi's sisters.

>>154283760
It pissed me of that we had 3 short stories leading up to the sisters meeting crab and one detailing the aftermath, but never actually got to see that first meeting

>>154283852
It would be so much fun to see Koyomi teased by his sisters plus crab! I don't think it will ever be written or animated though.
It's a shame we won't see a proper scene with all of his harem at once, either. It'd be funny to see how certain people play off each other. Oh well.

>>154279561
after crabs arc in bake she just wanted to be a normal girl doing normal girl stuff

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I really want to copulate with Shinobu. Nisio made her too sexy for her own good.

Now I'm not saying NisiO should do an Exorcist Season but that right there is 5-8 books.

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>>154284003

>>154283985
That's probably her reasoning, but I don't think you can just ignore the vampire that's eternally bound to your lovers shadow, feels everything that he does and who probably has a way more intimate relationship with him than you do

>>154284153
It's an okay course of action if she can't do anything about her lover having a different super intimate relationship that she's already accepted as part of the deal. Trying to get along is nice in theory, but would probably end up fruitless and needlessly painful in reality.

>>154254915
Bakemonogatari has the same sort of humor as Sayonara Zetsubou Sensei. Of course it's got the same style too, since it comes from the same studio...

But are there any other series like Bake? Like, series with a similar absurdity angle? Or the so-bad-it's-good harem angle? More haremshit I've watched becomes unwatchable by at least the end of the opening episode.

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>>154284285
It's alright because she compensates by having her own different super intimate relationship.

>>154284285
Shinobu is literally apart of Koyomi. They cannot be separated. The rational thing to do that is to accept that and to try to become intimate with Shinobu as well, you can't ignore her. Or, the other rational thing to do is to break up and forget about Koyomi. Love is rarely rational though...

>>154284296
Pani poni dash is another shaft comedy in a similar vain to both of those

>>154284336
I hate this meme. Is Nisio into netorare? Literally the most garbage fetish? I liked that Hitagi turned into a pure maiden at the end of Bake. But then that fucker had to go and ruin her by putting in all that Kaiki crap. What's his deal?

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>>154284434
>Is Nisio into netorare?

What do you think?

>>154281360
Seriously, Araragi has to be fucking all of these girls, or at least a majority of them. Except maybe Hanekawa, because she doesn't deserve happiness.

>>154284434
>Is NisiO into NTR?

I doubt it. I think he just knows it makes people fucking angry.
It's like the end of Katanagatari where even the implication that Hitei is following Shichika's dick is enough to trigger people.

>>154284630
Literally the whole point of netorare is to set emotions blazing. Only absolute degenerates derive actual pleasure from being cucked.

>>154283435

Context though. She says it because she knows Sodachi doesn't love herself and more importantly, is tricking herself to believe she is comfortable in misery, because its "easier". Also promised to look after her and meddle to help, which she does, Sodachi even talks about it in Musubi.

The ideal is the same, but the execution is starkly different between Meme and Hanekawa. I still find it funny that regardless of the fact he never stopped talking shit about her, she respects him so much.

>>154272157
My favorite scene in the entire anime. They are the true pair. Crab is just a fling desu, Shinobu is his soulmate.

>>154284697
I am aware. The question was just "Is NisiO into NTR" and I am stating that I doubt he is into it.

Shit, even using the Tooe > Kaiki > Senjougahara situation as an example. It's not unusual for people to have crushes and not really get over them.
Though whether that is NTR is up for debate since Kaiki was out fucking bitches while liking Tooe.

>>154284826
He's into it in the sense that he likes using it to play with the hearts of his readers.

>>154284559
I hate Shinobu Mail.

>>154284912
In which case, probably but I doubt it's his personal fetish.
Though I'm not NisiO and it might be. If you took everything that could be fetishy in Monogatari then NisiO honestly must have the hardest time trying to find porn that suits him.

Or on the flipside, he has zero issue finding it because everything does it for him.
Though Gaen I don't really understand from a fetish standpoint, like if you were NisiO and you thought to yourself. "I wanna fap to a late 30's midget who looks like she could bust a rhyme." then I would question why you wouldn't just pick Yozuru given they're both equally domineering.

>>154284912
Crab actually cucked Araragi in Koi. He still doesn't know anything and wants to marry her.

>>154285002
It's great at making you feel like shit.

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>>154285070
Yes, I know but I'm sure Nisio did that to make people angry. He likes to toy with emotions, he's not all about making people feel good.

Nisio is not an NTRfag, he's a lolifag. He really seems hellbent on including at least ONE loli character in his works.
>Zigzag
>Shiranui
>Higaki Rinne
>all the monogatari lolis

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>>154285045
If it was his personal fetish, Araragi would be a virgin and the girls he associates with would all be fucking other dudes, especially his sisters.

>>154284358

Here is the thing though, objectively look at where Crab is at here and say that from her shoes. She knows she can't call him out on being intimate with Shinobu, and he himself makes every excuse in the world for keeping the pairing intact, despite numerous ways they could nuetralize her vampire powers without killing her and still be friends.

Did you think it was a coincidence that Cat told him frankly what she wanted and got rejected? Despite the fact when asked to choose from the Big Three of Cat, Crab and Bat, he was frozen stock still in that scene in Onimonogatari? It should be a simple matter to choose. Cat was rejected sure, but she firmly demanded an honest answer. Shinobu and Hitagi don't ever want to rock the boat.

Its because he himself doesn't want to make the decision, and if they are to have any semblance of a happy marriage, than he has to.

There are too many problems we could talk about with stretching his relationship with Shinobu out like this. Sure, she is satisfied with a rubdown of his pecs here, and playful flirting there, but for how long? And Hitagi ain't getting less worried about their relationship.

Its like a can full of rotting garbage with a tight seal on it, you've done nothing about the trash except covering it up.

You can't expect Hitagi to start "loving" Shinobu when Shinobu has shown pretty much every girl in his life she only tolerates their prescence thanks to Araragi.

>>154285115
>>154285073
Crab and Bat are my favorites. And they both cucked Araragi. Fuck you Nisio

>>154285241
>Sure, she is satisfied with a rubdown of his pecs here, and playful flirting there, but for how long?
She held out for just under six centuries in far, far worse conditions. She can make it until crab dies. It's still not ideal, but she does actually have a demonstrated ability to handle it.

>>154284336
Yeah, but not with Kaiki.

It's mentioned that Gahara spends more time with Hanekawa than Araragi does at this point and they refuse to tell Araragi what they're doing together during their outings.

>>154285397
It was with Kaiki until he got shanked, then she replaced Kaiki with Hanekawa. And now Hanekawa is a globalist commie. Homosexuality, not even once.

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>>154277444
>Mememan himself gets saved by Hanekawa
where is that from, mono2nd?
I haven't finished it, but it sounds like fun

>>154285345

She "held out" because there wasn't any other viable options and she was afraid of making another servant. This situation is different.

The very fact that she even rubs him down as she does when he is supposed to be in a comittied relationship shows that without dispute, she longs for him and "takes" him whenever she pleases.

The only reason things stay as they are is because of the tension remaining level. Hitagi won't stop that intimacy out of fear, nor will Shinobu outright declare him hers out of fear of damaging her relationship with him by straining the one with Hitagi. Its passive aggressive as fuck.

Any counselor worth their salt would pretty much advise some honesty in this powder keg before it blows.

>>154285563

Last arc in Owari vol. 3. Hasn't been animated yet.

>>154254915
nah he looks like a huge faggot like all haremshit mc's

>>154285618
Oh, it's super unhealthy, but some honestly could actually cause the powder keg to blow. Though, by Musubi Shinobu has almost definitely recovered enough that it's not gonna end in any fatalities. Any way you slice it, the situation doesn't have a clean way out.

Deathtopia will ruin everything.

>>154285888

Better to resolve it as painlessly and assuredly as possible before you have messy things like marriage, kids, and the whole magila come into the picture.

>>154285983

Probably. Can't wait for the shitshow that will be Shinobumonogatari. Araragi can't catch a break.

>>154285983
She probably won't. Nisio's the master of having nothing substantial ever happening. If anything she'll probably end up shacking up with Araragi too.

>>154286062
Oh yeah, but assuming Shinobumonogatari actually pushes for shit to get resolved, it's probably the best time to do it. Shinobu had a good amount of time to get over her centuries of trauma and figure out her priorities, and Araragi isn't committed yet.

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>>154276147
>the opening was something something you shouldn't wait for a prince kiss
>as crab saved herself, cat was that girl who waits to be saved
>entire thing was about hanekawa changing herself
>at the end she decides to take everything in her [cat] hands
>gets her ass kicked but keeps her resolve
~BOOYA SUPER COOL MC WITH BIGASS SWORD AND TEARED CLOTHES JUMPS FROM HEAVENS AND SAVES THE DAY
not cool
>but hey, she told Aragagi about her love in absolutely not awkward and sounding like joke manner

I watched the first two seasons of this when it came out, haven't touched it since. I saw the PV for the next part in the movie(?) on YouTube, so the guy is with glasses girl now? What happened to crab?

>>154286669
She died.

>>154286461
>>154276147
Fuck Cat, no other character needed 3 attempts at the same arc. The only bad thing about the end of Tiger was that Koyomi was the only one who butts in, we now know that Kanbaru could've shown up out of nowhere too.

>>154286461
>~BOOYA SUPER COOL MC WITH BIGASS SWORD AND TEARED CLOTHES JUMPS FROM HEAVENS AND SAVES THE DAYnot cool

Well look at it this way. Kako was a perfect foil to her Energy Drain, being that she can't hold on long enough to drain without burning to death.

So she was pretty badass, given she doesn't have vampire regen. While Araragi still had to borrow the sword that drops oddities with a scratch.

Hanekawa deserved most of the credit for holding out.

>>154286669
its a prequel

>>154254915
do lolis really act like that when you forcibly take off their panties?

>>154286461
That anon is right though, Hanekawa constantly butts in story arcs elsewhere all the time.

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ᵖᵒˢᵗ ᵐᵒʳᵉ ᵐᵒᶰᵏᵉʸ

>>154286884

She saved his ass in Owari.

Even Ougi admits defeat to her there.

>>154286461
If it makes you feel any better she goes onto to ruin the Araragi & Ougi show we had going on in Sodachi Riddle. She gets her narrative payback in that sense.

>>154287023
>Even Ougi admits defeat to her there.
You know what Ougi is, right?

>>154286875
>forcibly

>>154287067

Of course, which makes it even sweeter in retrospect.

>>154285983
>Deathtopia antagonizes Araragi for turning Kiss-shot into a shadow of her former self
>Gets killed through a collective effort of Araragi Harem and specialist
>Shinobu turns human again
>Crab wins Araragibowl with no more Bat endgame in sight

How would you feel?

>>154287067

Ougi knows how big dick Hanekawa is when it comes to showing people up.

>>154287147
Feel pity for Crab. No chance for her to win.

>>154286461
No one saves themselves in a literal sense in this series, Tsubasa Tiger's ending was nothing different Even rararagi's confrontation with Ougi featured an intervention by Meme man & cat tats at the end. Tiger being "Hanekawa's arc" is smalltime, the entirety of Owari volume 3 was his arc.

>>154287147
I'd be pissed because the entire story in this series only happened because Araragi and Shinobu refuse to seperate even when given the chance to. Not a Batfag but if she's gonna lose Nisio's going to have think up a better method than that to justify it in my eyes.

>>154287253

It's more the sense people make their decisions. Hanekawa made the decision of sacrificing herself to calm Kako and Araragi made the decision to sacrifice himself to save Ougi. Those decisions were made, it's just the intervention of others prevented that decision from coming into fruition but the person themselves made the decision to do what they did.

>>154287329
Let's say Shinobu turn back into a human. She could no longer be bounded to his shadow. But overal nothing would chance, they still would not want to be seperated.

>>154287626
>"Hey, Karen, this ten year old girl will be living with us from now on, hope you don't mind. Our bed is big enough for three anyways"

It would at least be a little weird if she stayed her age. I wonder if she'd turn back to the age she was back when Deathtopia turned her

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Anyone who goes after children sexually is pretty rad to me.

>>154287724
I'm not sure which scenario would get him dirtier looks.

>>154282498

>not clear

Every single adaptation sells like fucking hotcakes. The monogatari series is practically a license to print money for SHAFT.

Also Nisio apparently writes the series entirely for his own enjoyment and is surprised everyone else likes it so much. He has no plans on stopping.

We will be getting Monogatari anime until japan sinks into the sea.

>>154288253

He did have plans on stopping after Zokuowari, but then he didn't.

>>154288253
>Also Nisio apparently writes the series entirely for his own enjoyment and is surprised everyone else likes it so much.

He doesn't realize how tired people are of permavirgin MC's who don't have the balls to get what they want from girls.

>>154288382
But he is close to getting married already.

>>154272229
I mean, if they love you then that's all you need to get started. Go out and meet somebody.

>>154288507
And?

>>154288624
Probably not a virgin anymore. Maybe if Nisio cared about his romance with crab he'd tell if they slept already or not though, but it would be really weird if they didn't after so many years together.

>>154288777
are you saying staying the night on valentines day doesnt imply that they slept together?

>>154288777
>walked home gently

>>154288624
They fucked in Nise

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>>154289578
Lol imagination. They are underage.

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>>154289711
That's not even true, both Araragi and Hitagi are 18 in Nise

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>>154289711
Oh. You are right. They will fuck after marriage.

>>154289578
>>154288777
I think you misunderstood my post. I was saying the reason he's surprised that everyone else likes monogatari so much is because he doesn't realize how tired people are of permavirgin MC's who don't have the balls to get what they want from girls.

>>154278745
You're not paying attention

>>154286875
Sometimes

>>154281806
>So shitty at cleaning that she messes his room up while being his maid

classic monkey

My favorite moments in the series are the tender ones between the two of them

>>154255030
So is every man

>>154289783
So fluid

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>people don't like best girl

>>154294046
I appreciate that she's an accurate depiction of just how skewed and awkward the idea of love is for people at that age.

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>>154294494

She does have a pretty fucked up outlook of people.

Imagine if Araragi endgame turns out to be not Crab, not Bat, not Cat, not even Monkey, but Math.

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>>154295644
Unfortunately he lost his mathematics during college, so he will never be able to truly reach a math (accountant) fairy anymore.

>>154295644
Nisio would have to hire bodyguards.

>>154259024
That's just something tall boys say when a short guy outclasses them in every way.

>>154295774
I know an ending for which he'd need to hire an entire PMC.

Make Araragi completely reboot time in an aberration-free world. End with him managing to save the math fairy with the warmest, happiest ending.

>>154295833
Even he's not that much of a mad-man.

>>154272306
>normalfags are allowed to exist
>normalfags are allowed to post
>normalfags are allowed to lurk
Fix this shit hole Hiroshima Nagasaki before I bomb you a middle name.

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>>154295873
Which is a shame, we could've had a real shitposter's ending.

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>>154295644

Nothing ever goes right for Math so it would never happen.

>>154258050
>two-ba-san
deepest lore

>>154273099

Senjou actually says that she doesn't mind cheating as long as he doesn't get serious about it.

Pretty fucking generous of her, but then again, I guess she knows Araragi's character well enough to understand that he just does that shit without thinking about it.

Better than Hanekawa's plan to make Araragi only interested in her before actually dating him, anyway.

>>154295644
Math is not that weird though. She is the not supernatural and not family girl that stayed with Araragi for the longest outside of his girlfriend.

But Crab is only losing if she dies (which goes against the kind of story monogatari is), and I think Nisio has a higher chance of pulling the "girl we never mentioned before and never will" for his wife and consolidating the "no romance allowed" than one of the cast in this already unlikely situation.

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I hope best specialist gets something in any upcoming LN.

>>154295970
>better than not being a complete cuck
Hahahahaha. Crabfags at it again

>>154296171

> wanting to be the one who loses

ok catfag, whatever you say.

>>154295970
>Senjou actually says that she doesn't mind cheating as long as he doesn't get serious about it.
She doesn't actually mean that though, or she has an arbitrary interpretation of what getting serious means considering their first break up.

Any serious girlfriend would limit what Araragi can do around other girls, crab is not very different than cat in this aspect, she just compromises better in respect to his supernatural relationships she can't see anyway.

>>154280838
Wonder whatever happened to toothbrush anon.

>>154288595
>>>/soc/this-is-your-home

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>>154296085
I too hope Tadatsuru gets more screentime.
If we know Tadatsuru and we do, it'll be a great movie about a guy using his particular set of skills to find a figma during Comiket.

Hanaato - Shirushi is the second coming of Kimi no Shiranai Monogatari.
I won't even facetiously tell you to try prove me wrong. I already know I'm right.

>>154298141
Was that the Owari ending? It was really good.

>>154295644
Nadeko would be the weirder option at this point, Araragi & Sodachi have a dysfunctional but somehow close friendship at this point.

>>154298822
>Math somehow became full bro

I still love this

>>154298854
>somehow
Her "hate" was her depending on him. Once he got the memo things worked out.

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>>154298264
no, its the hana ending

>>154289711
yeah because 16 year old didn't know about sex

>>154284434
>Is Nisio into netorare?
watch katanagatari and you will know the answer

>>154298822
He doesn't even see Sodachi as a woman. It's more of a sibling type thing

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>>154284434
> Is Nisio into netorare?
You tell me

>>154296085
I need another arc with her

>>154254915

Why does she sit like that?

>>154290760
He's right though, if he did like he acted in his own series he would have dated one girl and gotten cockteased by all the others.

>>154301372
That's an obvious lie he tells himself to justify not telling his gf that his childhood crush and a person she hates is now living with him

>>154254915
Sometimes

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>>154302606
Something up her back.

>>154303394
I don't think anything ever suggested that he saw Sodachi in a romantic light.

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>>154301372
You probably mean a childhood friend type hing, if it was a sibling type thing Araragi would be almost having having sex with her.

>>154273447
I loved it.

>>154305087
Certainly not romantic, but he might see her like the other girls in his "harem" like Kanbaru in which he can keep a somewhat respectful distance and still acknowledge as a girl.

On the other side, the show is in his perspective and Owari 1 was completely free of any kind of Sodachi fanservice like with any other girl.

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>>154305087
>>154305286
I think Araragi had romantic feelings for her back in middle school at least

>>154272287
>>154272589
Other translation was "casanova" which was more accurate imo

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>>154306059
It might just be the pure love between a little boy and his math fairy, not the love between a boy and a girl.

>>154302606
Maybe her butt hurts.

>>154303394
Why would Gahara hate her?

>>154308188
According to the commentaries crab simply always hated her, maybe because sodachi always tried to force her help her while crab was "sick" and wanted to be alone.

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>>154308188

>>154307427
from what?

>>154308188
I dunno if it was commentary or what but some anon posted some translated notes about how Koyomi & Sodachi constantly bickered in class and Gahara always watched this from the background, so in a weird roundabout sorta way Koyomi and Sodachi seemed close to her (I guess that's sort of how it turned out in the end too).

>>154289578
Walked Home Gently.

>>154308728
Anal sex.

>>154281270
She is too tall now, eww.

So, who's the best girl? Haven't watched this shit.

>>154310363

cat

>>154310363
cat

>>154310363
The vampire. It doesn't become apparent until she stops being butthurt.

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>>154310363
monkey

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>>154310363
Bat

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>>154310363
Math

>>154310476
So, it this show basically porn?

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>>154310363

>>154258077
Can you be more wrong? Twintails/pigtails for life.

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>>154310510
nope, what makes you think that?

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>>154310363
This vampire will eat your heart

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>>154310551
And your dick

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>>154310363
Snail.
>>154310510
Sadly it isn't.

I liked cat best.

>>154272157

WHEN did this happen?

>>154311033
before snail kissed him

>>154311033
after doll kissed him

>>154282563

Because he's an imposter who's so good at impostering that he's even better than the original, so he imposter'd himself as a fast track runner and became a great track runner.

>>154310363
Snail

>>154282563
You see, that scene is a metaphor for about how no matter how much you try to run away, shit always catches up to you no matter how hard you run but that once it catches up to you, you find out that it's not actually as bad as you thought it would be.

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>>154310363
bird

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>>154310510
maybe a little

>>154281653
a hero.

>>154257923
>I want to stroke your abs and see you flinch and hear you moan.
Why would it make someone moan?

>>154310363
kaiki__

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>>154312047

>>154312602
I am sure I could serve as a loli vampire's throne easily.

>>154311647
i want sniff Hitagi's panties

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>>154310363

Personal opinions.

>>154258906

>he's not good at fighting, he's not good at speaking, he's not good at his studies
>...therefore he's not cool

This is what autists actually believe