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Anou... how was she ok at the end? What even was the end? Is

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Anou...
how was she ok at the end? What even was the end? Is anime too deep for me and should I just stop watching?
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>>154212870
She was ok in the end because Rei (Lilith) managed to take her soul, she appears from the sea of LCL about one month after she died because she is afraid of losing her individuality.
Shinji chokes her because:
- She is the main source of his misery and so he resents her
- He wanted to check if she was real
Either way, when Asuka touches his cheek its a sign of empathy against a negative action. She neither runs away or fights, breaking the hedgehog's dilemma. Buuut its ruined when she says "How disgusting". They have a long way to go from understanding and accepting each other. Final is a message of hope.
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>>154212870
I liked when she made Shinji wear her plugsuit. It probably made him smell like perfume and girl smell and I bet Misato and Asuka teased him about it and made him do it more often.
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>>154214717
They understand one another at the end, but they also understand that they don't have to need each other and can part ways. It's just commenting on depending personality - which they both had for one another.

The disgusting line is just there to show she knew what he did in the hospital.
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>>154212870
>how was she ok at the end?
When you're in the goo, you leave the goo as you see yourself. Asuka knows she had an eye injury, so she came back with one. That's probably why they get injured when "piloting" the EVA in the first place - synchronization seems to imply a level in which they lose their self-identity and any injuries could be their ego recalculating itself on the fly.

Rebuild had a few things to add, but most people consider them a separate canon to the show. Maybe that's why they don't age - they see themselves as they were when they came in.
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Evangelion messed me up
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>>154212870
Even after watching NGE, NGE - D&R, and EoE. Hideaki Anno still leaves a lot of open end questions for the viewers own interpretation. This leaves unsavoury taste somelike its completed but imperfect.

Eva rebuilds is great especially from movie 1-2, but eva 3.33 is entirely new story and plot which leave eva 4.0+1.0 may be the answer and closure we all waiting for.

> few question i wondering is Seele trying to stop or trigger 4th impact in EoE
> Eva series is the tools to trigger 4th impact by forming yggdrasil configuration (why tree of life symbology there must be some sort of more revelation).
>Question about the angels, lilith, adam, which eva is derived from.
> most baffling character to character relationship, which Anno create during his career depression years. which leave each own viewer to assume/do own interpretation about whether its lust/love/hatred resides on shinji denial/escapism/sexuality this includes all the complexes characters presented to us in Eva.
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>>154214943
I bet Shinji crossdressed when no one was looking
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What are the main differences between 25-26 and EoE?
I don't remember much about the original ending other than it being more confusing than End of Evangelion
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>>154216223
25-26 are mainly character studies with no plot development
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>>154216045
Can you repeat the questions in a xlearer way?
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>>154216302
Does it just focus on shinji or does it also involve other characters?
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>>154216591
Focuses on Shinji, Rei and Asuka.
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>>154216608
and Misato
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>>154216591
it's 1 hour of Gendo plowing Rei
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>>154216223
25-26 are what they're experiencing when they're the orange liquid, EoE is what's happening on the outside and up to that point
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>>154216673
Pedophilic jokes are not funny you rat
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>>154216724
It's not a joke, Gendo and Rei did the do
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>>154216720
That's just a theory.
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>>154216769
A GAME THEORY
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>>154216769
But it makes sense because what shinji experiences when he's in it in EoE is what the last two episodes are like.
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>>154216223
EoE is the real ending
25-26 is what happens when a studio runs out of both money and time
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>>154216793
Not really. In EOTV Shinji learns to accept and love himself, in EOE he learns to accept and understand others.
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>>154216828
Anno is also a hack so he likely changed what he wanted it to be
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>>154216820
>This myth again
You don't know what you're talking about.
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>>154216820
The rebuilds are the REAL ending
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>>154216820
Wrong.

>Hayashibara: So there will be two episode 25s.
>Anno: Right, it will be a multi-ending.
>Hayashibara: So, a dual... ah, a multi-ending. After episode 24 the endings will diverge.
>Anno: Right.
>Hayashibara: There will be two of them.
>Anno: There will be two of them.
>Hayashibara: Ah, two endings.
>Anno: Yes.
>Hayashibara: In terms of gaming - is it called a simulation game? What do you call it? The ending for that [particular] self changes as you go on [through the game].
>Anno: Right, a multi-ending [game].
>Hayashibara: You took this road so you went here. You took this road so you went here. The ending changes. That's how it goes.
>Anno: Um. Evangelion is my live performance. Since I create it with this sense of it being live, what I'm thinking now, what I'm feeling now, my current mood, all this gets transferred onto film - that was the initial theme, or the theme I had in my mind.
>Hayashibara: Right.
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>>154216724
Shinji seemed to enjoy it from the corner
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>>154216981
If you're interested, there's a game called NGE2 which shows the different endings possible in the canon universe by choosing different options.
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>>154216910
I'm of the opinion that the Rebuilds are Shinji dreaming in the goo - that they represent his hopes and fantasies, until his self-doubt sets in and everything reverses so horribly and becomes a nightmare.

The whole lynchpin of Yui's plan was for Shinji to want to reject Instrumentality and restore humanity, but doing that he has to wrestle with his own fears of being rejected and embrace the suffering that comes with being human.
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>>154214717
Other people can also cone back, as Yui says. Asuka was just first because she has a strong will. Or people from different places could've already come back
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how did they know the angels were coming
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>>154217037
Intewesting
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>>154217398
Because they're huge.
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>>154217400
We had a thread about it the other day, but it mostly devolved into shit and Mari speculation. >>154142413

I mean in the beginning everything seems to be going Shinji's way - he's more assertive, more competent, Asuka is less outright hostile to him, Rei is less closed off, and both girls are outright competing for his affection. Even his own father is ever so slightly warmer to him. This is his fantasy: Shinji is loved, Shinji is the hero, Shinji saves the day.

Then he remembers the bad - he replaces Toji with Asuka because of his guilt over being unable to prevent her death. He tries to save Rei and accidentally triggers Third Impact, and then fourteen years pass without him (or the viewer) to witness it. Then when he comes to, nobody has really changed. Asuka hasn't aged because he can't imagine her any older, Rei is back to the lifeless doll she was after II died. Kaworu dies again because of Shinji's actions and in a way that makes him feel as helpless as when he did it the first time. And when he tries to fix it all, everything goes even worse. This is his nightmare: Shinji is hated, Shinji is the villain, Shinji has doomed humanity.

This is his greatest fears made manifest: that he was being manipulated by his parents, that he was too weak to save everyone else, and when he tried his hardest, he only made things worse. This is just him freaking out in the LCL and trying to sort through what has happened to him up until this point. Maybe it's not even just his dream - since everyone else is with him, maybe they're playing their parts - that's why Kaworu is seemingly aware of things "happening again" and why Asuka is wearing the eyepatch - she brought her injury back with her at the very end of EoE; she must've accepted it as her self-image.
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>>154217560
"It was all a dream?" Lame.
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>>154217398
Most angels generate AT field. That energy is readable.
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>>154217560
>>154217627
Part of that interpretation gets thrown to Hell though when you remember that Mari isn't in the original series at all. Given how EVA pilots don't age, and that the manga establishes that Mari personally knew Yui (note: the manga isn't canon, but I believe Sadamoto worked with Anno to create her) - it's pretty clear that we don't know everything just yet.

I dunno, this is NGE: I guarantee you we won't get our questions answered in the next film, but we'll get an ending even more ambiguous than EoE.
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>>154217732
I believe Mari is some kind of omniscient time travelling freak. In any case, she's not human.
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This fucking scene.
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>>154215060

Oh my... Basically like Alucard post-Schrödinger
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>>154216462
i read the wikis alrdy and get my own answer. above post is a rant after frustration feeling from NGE and wanted to funnels some of it but it form a disarray question (since im only writing by the moments).
> also after watching rebuilds it doesnt help at all.
> realise 3rd impact is from ori NGE and 4th impact from rebuilds
> this series screw my mind, thanks to Anno
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>>154218230
Ok good 4 u dude
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>>154218300
need to take breaks from /a/ and enter the limbo for a while
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>>154212870
>I just watched the ending
>Should I stop watching?
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>>154221591
What do you mean by ending? End of Evangelion?
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>>154222510
He's quoting OP.
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>>154222541
Well he meant watching anime altogether
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Reminder that Shinji is canonically heterosexual.
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>Anou...
You should stop breathing.
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>>154216828
He does both you retard. EoTV ends and then it goes into Shinji talking with Rei before ending instrumentality.
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>>154212870
25-26 is the canon ending

EoE is fanservice
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>>154216828
People like the ones described in EoE do not deserve to be either understood or accepted.
If someone is corrupt, incompetent and negligent to the point of criminal offense, I don't need to hear their sob story to know that they are scum. If someone is willing to commit genocide, you don't need to hear their side of the story.
The biggest piece of trash here is Shinji himself. He was constantly emotionally blackmailing others with his misery, and pretending not to have social skills while manipulating others around him.
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>>154216828
don't separate them
in both instances, shinji comes to understand the human condition w/ regards to both himself and others
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>>154217732
being ambiguous for the sake of it is cheap
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being an eva fan is suffering
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>>154227579
EoE is fanfucking. Anno sticking his dick in your ass and asking "where's my dick?"

Rebuild is headfucking. Anno sticking his dick in your ear and saying "what do you think about that?" as he ejaculates into your cerebellum
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>>154230365
Vivid
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>>154222830
Nothing wrong with Rei Q
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>>154234145
everythings wrong with rei q
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>>154229331
Well, yeah
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>>154230365
Switch the movies, and you're right.
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>>154235502
Nope.
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>>154226700
Don't present theory as faxx.
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>>154234145
Poor fujo
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Reminder that Shinji is a transsexual
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>>154236544
Does this mean Kaworu is straight?
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>>154236588
Kaworu was always straight, anon. Shinji was the one blushing at his dick when poor Karl just wanted a friend.
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>>154217732
As of 3.33, Rebuild is shit.
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>>154236702
Buttblasted Reifag detected.
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>>154236641
Shinji is such a fag, a dude is being nice to him and he immediately wants to take it up the pooper.
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>>154236715
Buttblasted 3.33fag detected.
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>>154236702
Yeah, I don't know why you nerds keep repeating that manta.

It's like you people have never seen Evangelion before.
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>>154236767
Reifags don't care about Evangelion.
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>>154236715
>>154236767
3.33 is objectively shit, only a full-retard mode asuka or kaworu otaku could ever like it. Get some fucking standards or fuck off back to tumblr.
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>>154236802
Buttblasted Reifag confirmed.
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>>154236766
>>154236802
>WORSE
>THAN
>GRANDPA
>DYING
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>>154236767
I've seen Evangelion before, but I know a shitty work when I see one. 3.33 was made for nerds like this guy: >>154236801 >>154236822
who doesn't understand Evangelion beyond "reifags and asukafags and kaworufags and and" ad infinitum.

You know 3.33 has a horrid story and shallow characters, why are you even arguing?
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Don't listen to fujos, Shinji is straight
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>>154236826
Yeah, 3.33 was pretty bad.
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>>154236850
Too late, we all recognize you. No amount of samefagging and falseflagging will change that.

3.33 is great and Reifags need to hang.
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>>154236869
Yea he's a straight transgirl
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>>154236822
>>154236801
>>154236715
Confirming that 3.33 is only liked by people who hated Rei, AKA butthurt Asuka and Kaworufags. 3.33 had no story because it was busy pandering to the lowest of the otaku.
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>>154236882
Thanks for posting another image of how insane Reifags are.
All you guys care about is shipping, huh? No wonder you hate 3.33 so much.
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>>154236850
Because the films are a four-act story and bitching about the low point is asinine.

You as well start crying about how the show isn't wall to wall shooty-shoot and warm feelings like the beginning of 2.0.
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>the butthurt kaworufag is back
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>>154236909
He doesn't like Rei because Rei looks like a man
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>>154236884
see >>154236914

You got nailed, samefag.
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>>154236932
He only hates 3.33 because it ruined his shipping fuel.
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>>154236914
But I like all Eva characters Except for Kaji, fuck him
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>>154236932
>Because the films are a four-act story and bitching about the low point is asinine.

The low point in four act stories aren't always poorly written wrecks, anon. The third part in a four parter is not exempt for standards. Now we have a shit story in 3.33.

You can't use buzzwords to excuse that.
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>>154236965
>>154237010
>>154236915
Fuck off kaworufag. We were having a nice thread.
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>>154236914
>because it was busy pandering to the lowest of the otaku
Those would be Reifags. And it didn't pander to them, that's why it's good.
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>>154237013
>liking 3.33
>liking all Eva characters

Choose one. Take this anon: >>154237010
>>154236915
and see how much he projects. 3.33 was pure shipping fuel, and that's why he's upset when people point out that it's shit.
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>>154237016
I'm sorry, but you have shit taste.

Maybe Evangelion isn't for you, maybe you'd prefer a simpler show instead?
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>>154237048
Yeah, lets discuss Shinji being trans instead.
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>>154237048
Triggered Reifag can't handle discussion on 3.33. Figures.

Maybe if you keep calling me a Kaworufag someone will believe you.
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I'm currently rewatching Eva because I wanted to confirm the feeling I had back when I first watched it.

It's basic episodic shit, with the famous trope of trying to pass bad situations as actually dangerous when people are going to survive anyway and the Monster of the Day is going to be vanquished.

Hmmm.
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>>154237052
Those would be Asukafags and Kaworufags, respectively. It pandered to those. Any remake which panders rather than making great story is a failure.
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Why do Reifags start going insane as soon as 3.33 is mentioned?

They're like rabid dogs. Sad!
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>>154237096
You are the one throwing a tantrum. Fuck off back to /cm/
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>>154237090
Let's discuss why believing that Shinji was attracted to Kaworu is baseless
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>>154237137
>>154237096
>>154237084
>>154237052
>same triggered Eva-haters out to defend Rebuild

Wow.
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>>154237110
But almost everyone dies.
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>>154237110
It gets better when Asuka shows up and Rei is devolved to a minor character
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OKAY THEN, LET'S DISCUSS 3.33 AND BLOW THE RECURRING AUTISTIC ASUKAFAG AND KAWORUFAG OUT.

Let's begin:

3.33 is the third of a four parter, as far as we know. 3.33 coincidentally also reset or removed many of the characters, and did nothing to develop them. This has left the characters in a state where they may never reach any acceptable level of quality.

BEGIN
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>>154237142
Everyone was having a great time until this Reifag showed up: >>154236802
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>>154237147
Why do Reifags care about shipping so much? Don't you like Evangelion?
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>>154237212
I don't see any asukafags shut your autism up
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>>154237147
Shinji as we saw him is non masculine, does the cooking and cleaning, and does not listen to Asuka when she tells him to man up. He crossdresses in the series and several spinoffs, and has no problem with faggy outfits like the one in Dance Like You Want To Win. He wishes to have boobs in Instrumentality.
TL;DR Shinji is trans.
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>>154237217
A lot of people think 3.33 is shit. It's the least liked Rebuild, problem begins as usual with some fucking Kaworufag who can't deal with the facts here: >>154236715

as happens every fucking time. Ever wondered why Kaworu fans NEVER talk about the story, but only meta and interviews? They dont' care. They just want to ship.
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>>154237212
Sounds about right. 3.33 really screwed the pooch.
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>>154237212
No one wants to discuss with your retarded ass. You're insane, stop ruining Eva threads.
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>>154237176
Actually no, Asukafaggot.
I'm fucking rolling my eyes everytime that shitty redhead appears on screen.
"ANTA BAKA?!"
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>>154237252
Kaworufags are the ones who ship, Shinji being anything but heterosexual is pure speculation
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>>154237217
It was a kaworufag as usual.
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>>154237078
Naw I choose both.
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>>154237254
I see plenty, stop with meta and talk EVA.

>>154237278
Thanks for the """contribution""".

>>154237292
Same as above.
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>>154237273
I don't know man, based on this:
>>154236882
>>154236826

Reifags seem to be the ones who care about shipping. It's basically the only reason they hate 3.33, pathetic I know.
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>>154236915
Those are very clearly Asukafags you moron. They praise re-take and hate on the manga for shipping. How the hell can an image which shits on the manga for shipping Shinji and Rei be proof that Reifags like shipping?
You are insane.
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>>154237297
Wow, the Reifag lost it.

Why are you so jealous of Asuka, anyway?
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>>154237273
Nah everyone discusses the story until someone brings up the Rebuilds. Like I was explaining the ending to OP, see first post.
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>>154237322
>Reifags seem to be the ones who care about shipping. It's basically the only reason they hate 3.33, pathetic I know.

Don't even try it you samefagging retard. You know very well the second image has Asukafags, not Reifags, and that you're the idiots who keep spamming fakes.
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>>154237358
>>154237389
Maybe if you keep repeating that someone will believe you someday.

>Shinji is in love with Rei in Rebuild!
>Best end!
Yeah, sounds like Reifags shipping like usual to me.
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>>154237321
What's wrong with meta? Isn't meta discussion of characters and the show? I always see people telling others to stop "metashit" and I wonder why.
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>>154236882
>Rebuild is Reifag route!
All they care about is shipping, gross.
If 3.33 did one thing right, it was these pathetic otaku getting BTFO
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>>154237370
>Nah everyone discusses the story until someone brings up the Rebuilds. Like I was explaining the ending to OP, see first post.
I was thinking of the story in the Rebuilds, not NGE in particular. A lot of think the third one is bad, it has the worst rating yet, but Kaworufags especially are defensive about it because it's "their" movie. Which is the problem. They are unable to talk about it like adults.

>>154237430
Because all Asukafags and Kaworufags do is shitpost about it. They refuse to talk about the story because their fantasies always get shut down.
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>>154237370
Usually kaworufags go ballistic over it. Notice how not a SINGLE one will defend their opinion?
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>>154237212
Shinji is the undisputable main character of Evangelion, and as such, characters that are periphery to his supporting cast's storylines are expendable. People like Kaji are ultimately useless because Misato's motivations can't be properly understood in the time allotted.

The only people we have left are the ones who will directly influence Shinji and/or the plot.
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>>154237366
I'd rather a no character than a character than makes me want to destroy the screen everytime she opens her mouth.
Seriously, you could replace everything spoken by Asuka by whining sounds and it would be the same.
"WHY ARE MEN SO PERVERT?"
"I'M THE BEST PILOT, YOU JUST ACHIEVED GREAT PERFORMANCE BECAUSE YOU MODEL IS LOWER LEVEL"
"I DON'T WANT TO SAVE THE EARTH BECAUSE I'D LOOK UNCOOL OH WAIT NO DON'T TOUCH MY EVA YOU BITCH I'LL DO IT"

Shut the fuck up, for god's sake.
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>>154237217
Actually, we were having a working thread until a kaworufag ruined the thread like he's done with every single thread for the past four years: >>154236715

There's plenty of Asuka fans, Rei fans, Misato fans, and no-character-at-all fans who dislike and even hate 3.33. But this autist has to bring up waifu wars every time and shitpost like this:

>>154237443
>>154236882
Samefaggerino.
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>>154237470
>>154237483
But the main reason you hate 3.33 is because it ruined your shipping fantasies, Reifag.

We have photo proof, why don't you admit it?
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>>154237522
Hm..
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>>154237518
>Shinji is the undisputable main character of Evangelion, and as such, characters that are periphery to his supporting cast's storylines are expendable.
But not until the point where they deteriorate to such a level where the situation and even Shinji's character becomes unrealistic. A story with a well developed main cast is better than a story with a single developed character.

You can't abandon characters or deliberately ruin them in a story which depends on them. 3.33 is garbage for many reasons, this being one of them.
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Can we discuss Shinji's sexuality as usuall?
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>>154237535
>>154237583
You're projecting, as 3.33 is pure shipping fuel for people like you.
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>>154237264
Didn't Anno plan for him to be a girl at first?
He prefers female protagonists, like Miyazaki.
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>>154237535
Go to hell, filthy fujo cunt. EVA is about more than shipping. No wonder everyone hates you.
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>>154237589
It's perfectly fine. You people really need to get over the fact that it wasn't what you expected.
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>>154237521
>that broken English allcaps rage
He's going nuclear.
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>>154237603
>>154237646
No Reifag, stop shipping.
I know it's hard for you, but please try.
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>>154237603
We're discussing Shinji's transsexuality.
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>3,33 mentioned
>reifag implodes

its like clockwork at this point
4.0 threads are going to be a hoot
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>>154237535
You just can't understand Evangelion beyond shipping. It killed off any integrity Eva had left, shipping is a minor concern for the audience who has to put up with unrealistic characters, unrealistic scenarios so dumb there's no meaning to the movie at all. Only a shipping Kaworufag would love this nonsense that's laden with Kaworu garbage.

>>154237646
To be honest, Kaworu and his fans is the single worst thing to happen to Evangelion threads.
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>>154237589
There's nothing wrong with Rei Q
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>>154237653
I'm simply mimicking that shitty character. She deserves a huge beatdown.
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>>154237633
SHINJI TRANS GIRL CONFIRMED
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>>154237652
Not an argument. Do you concede?

>it was not what I expected
You stupid or something? Everyone expects Evangelion to try to "troll". The magic is that it's well made in the process. Which 3.33 wasn't.
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>>154237713
>>154237629
see
>>154236882
>>154236826

Worse than grandpa dying? Rebuild isn't your shipping fanfiction Reifag, get over it.
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>>154236641
>>154236588
>>154236544
shinji is pansexual or bisexual. kaworu is definitely a bit gay at least
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>>154237718
>>154237711
>>154237680
No one is buying your damage control. You spam every thread that criticizes 3.33. Which is every fucking thread. Get a life!
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>>154237760
Don't generalize them, I haven't seen a Rei fan who ships Shinrei in ages.
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>>154237713
So your problem with 3.33 is it ruined your shipping fantasies. Got it.
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To be fair guys, it's probably just one autistc Kaworufag and Asukafag. They do the same shit every thread, there's no need to blame all asukafags or kaworufags for their hatred against eva an Rei.
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>>154237806
Because 3.33 broke them. You should've seen them after 2.0 released.
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>>154237687
If that is true he's a cheeky bastard, be able to sneak to women's bathrooms without any problem
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>>154237787
It says in this official material that Kaworu's romantic affections towards the opposite sex are weak.
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I wonder if they'll ever include Mari in any of the spinoffs. Even Mana gets included from time to time.

I kinda want a super sentai Eva series with all of the kids. I think there's nine now if you include Mari and Mana.
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>>154237264
shinji is definitely comfortable with his sexuality and gender where he is able to act in ways a traditional boy isn't supposed to
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>>154237806
Don't bother with shitposters like >>154237813
>>154237760

It's a Kaworufag projecting. If you want to know who ships, just look at their communities:
>>>/cm/3088944
>>>/c/2854074

Asuka and kaworufags are the most cancerous shippers, and Kaworufags even invade the Asuka x Shinji thread to piss them off.
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>>154237787
>pansexual
I just want tumblr to leave
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>>154237787
Kaworu is straight because he mistook Shinji for a short-haired girl.
Shinji is bisexual because he blushed at what he thought was a boy.

If you deny this, you're a fujo.
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>>154237855
Shinji a slut
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>>154237755
>Not an argument
It's not meant to be an argument. I don't know where you kids picked up the idea that this is some sort of enlightened debate; why would I care what a holder of shit opinions thinks?
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>>154237854
The only ones who shitposted after 2.0 were the butthurt Asukafags who rampaged.
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>>154237892
There's nothing wrong with being sexually attracted to bread.
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Every fucking thread a kaworufag loses it and starts goong full on damage control. Every fucking thread. All kaworufags should hang!
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>>154237882
He isn't confortable with his sexuality though, he think's jerking it off to boobs is fucked up even if he's alone in the room imagining it like in the EoE drafts.
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>>154237887
This is next level autism.
Shouldn't expect any less of Reifags, they're obsessed with Asuka like usual.
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>>154237913
I get it, so you concede and now you're acting like a four year old with a keyboard and internet access on an anonymous imageboard. Of course it would end this way, your opinion is so pathetic and so shitty you cant' help yourself but shitpost.

Accept that 3.33 is a flawed, garbage work like an adult.
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>>154237887
Asukafags are at least right. Asuka x Shinji is possible unlike kawoshit
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>>154237887
It's a story about relationships, obvs there'll be shipping.
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>>154237952
well she was in a coma like you don;t think what he did was fucked up?
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>>154237970
Ironic coming from a grade A autist who literally stalks the threads for Reifags.

How's it feel to be outed, anon?
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>>154237952
He never had a parent figure and shows disgust towards sexual acts (the theater scene) so it makes sense.
He never had proper guidance for these things.
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>>154237998
>>154238005
I don't care. Point is that Asukafags and Kaworufags are the #1 shippers in this fanbase, and here they are decrying it as something bad.
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>>154238021
Uh, you just proved you stalk everyone's threads: >>154237887

You're insane, get a life.
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>>154237998
Not if you factor in timeloops. Either way, Eva isn't a story about """"endgames"""
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>>154236882
Holy shit, asuka fans are terrible people.
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>>154237981
I'm not sure a four-year old would be as eloquent as I.

Also farts.
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>>154238021
>>154237981
you are both autistic. worst thing about these threads is people going on about fucking reifags, asukafags, etc... it's pathetic
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>>154238010
Not this, anon. I'm talking about EoE drafts where Shinji masturbates in his room. He still thinks it's fucked up
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>>154238059
The guy said he wasn't a Kaworufag.
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>>154238077
Tell that to Reifags, they only liked Rebuild and the Manga because of the shipping. They hated it at soon as it ruined that for them.
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>>154237970
Eventually you'll commit suicide like that one Kaworufag we saw many threads ago. It's the fate for shitposters like you.

>>154237998
>>154238005
I believe the point being made was that Kaworu fans and Asuka fans ship a lot and their whole fandom is based on it. Remove shipping for Kaworu fans, and they're left with nothing.
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>>154238102
It makes sense with his character, see my other post.
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>>154238096
One side is trying to discuss things. The other side is busy trying to shit on characters and spread lies. Look at >>154237913 and how he just bolts off.

Why can't we have serious discussion any more?

>>154238108
They'll say anything, and make up any lie. Kaworu fans are truly irredeemable people who cannot be reasoned with.
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>>154215738
>>154215738
Watched it when I was 15 years old. No Internet or anyone to talk with about (not really anyways). (it was around 2000)
Identified with Shinji to such a degree that I kinda became him. Cried at the end of OMETETOU, and didn't even understand why.
Then I got bootleg DVD of Death and Rebirth aaaaaand EoE of course. So many bricks were shat I'm living in a house made of those shitlogs now. Everything about that movie is a mess and I consider it the best film humanity has put out; and yes, I may be biased but who isn't?

that Maya screaming when Asuka gets fucked up by the harpies - still get goosebumps just thinking about it. or that flamethrower scene, or that whole real-scenes intermixing stuff, or that creepy doll sandcastle stuff, or that dead cat with the intestines crap, or that Shinjis mind goes scribbly lines and bascially breaks - a star giant with a vagina in her head dies and blood taints the moon red while grining like an idiot, Yuis starflight as a testament for humanity with that triumphant / melodramatic music...

Anno fucked my up good.
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>>154238110
Stop projecting.
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>>154238117
>Eventually you'll commit suicide like that one Kaworufag we saw many threads ago. It's the fate for shitposters like you.
link?
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>>154238117
>>154238167
All you ever talk about is shipping, Asuka and Kaworu, blah blah blah, can you go away? We're trying to have a discussion.
Stop ruining Eva threads.
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>>154238110
Can't hear you over the sound of Asukafags and Kaworufags cheering over shipping. There's literally nothing you can do to change history, Asukafags and Kaworufags have always been huge shippers. Rei is more popular because she's Rei.

Reminder that Asuka fans still consider doujins like Re-Take canon.
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>>154238077
Shinji wasn't attracted to Kaworu thus the shipping is anything but a crack
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>>154238185
>>154238228
see
>>154236882
>>154236826

You only hate 3.33 because it ruined your Reifag shipping.
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>>154238199
I'm discussing EVA. Kaworufags are starting shit as usual.
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>>154238228
>doujins
Doujinshi.
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>>154237880
I want every spinoff to stop being "everyone wants Shinji's dick". And yeah, more info on Mari.
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>>154238199
Targeting the wrong poster here. I was the one talking about evangelions story.
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>>154238235
What is your opinion on Rei Q? I personally think she's a pretty good character.
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>>154238245
uh, you crazy? the image you linked: >>154236882
shows crazy fucking Asukafags talking about Re-take.
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>>154238272
Sick burn m8
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>>154238235
>anything but a crack
Bahaha, learn English
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>>154238245
I hate 3.33, as does a lot of other people, because it was shit. It was pure shipping material, and you're desperately trying to project your own sins on me.
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>>154238272
I genuinely find her fine, dunno why people hate her so much.
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>>154238303
You know what's a crackshipping right?
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>>154238077
This. The whole point of Evangelion is getting back up, even when you've had the wind knocked out of you. The series hammers that home repeatedly, and even EoE ends with them continuing on after everything that happened.
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>>154238303
It's just a falseflagging Reifag, ignore it.
He only cares about shipping and derails discussion.
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>>154214717

I always thought that Asuka's reaction to Shinji choking her is that she finally realizes her own fault in his actions. Throughout the show, she simultanously craves attention and lashes out against everyone around her. Shinji choking her to see what her reaction is, reminds her of our own behaviour, so the "how disgusting" comment is really directed at her self.

This is what I think, anyway. One analysis of the situation does not invalidate any other.
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LETS GIVE THIS ANOTHER GO:

LET'S DISCUSS 3.33 AND BLOW THE RECURRING AUTISTIC ASUKAFAG AND KAWORUFAG OUT. THEIR INSTANT SHITPOSTINING WILL AGAIN REVEAL THEM, THEIR COMPLETE INABILITY TO DISCUSS EVANGELION WILL OUT THEM AGAIN:

Let's begin:

3.33 is the third of a four parter, as far as we know. 3.33 coincidentally also reset or removed many of the characters, and did nothing to develop them. This has left the characters in a state where they may never reach any acceptable level of quality.

BEGIN
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>>154238272
She's Rei III.

People probably get pissy because she's not the waifu they fell for, just like Shinji.
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>>154238344
3.33 is about bringing Shinji to his absolute low so he will find hope in the next movie.
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>>154238342
You know what grammar is right? You just voiced your support for K/S.
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>>154238345
You are insane. Get help. You must think everyone except yourself is a Reifag.
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>>154238297
It shows Reifags talking about how Rebuild is the Rei route and other shipping nonsense. Figures. That's all they care about.

>>154238336
It's only shipping to a Reifag like you, because that's all you can think about.
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>>154238374
She said "how disgusting" because of what he did in the hospital, I believe.
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Go to this thread:
>>>/cm/3088944

Tell Kaworu fans calmly to stop shitposting in /a/ threads. Maybe they will rein in their autist and put him or her on leash.
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>>154238381
Stop spamming metashit.
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>>154238413
In your dreams, fujo. Shinji likes boobs like every young man
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>>154238420
No one buys it kaworufag. You post it every thread. We know you.
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>>154238420
Projecting.
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>>154238472
He likes having boobs, that's for sure.
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>>154238450
Don't be a stalker.
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>>154238472
Eh, don't call me a fujo, fujo. Or maybe you're a fudanshi.
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>>154238450
Reifags stalk yaoi threads, I'm not even surprised.
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>>154212870
I remember watching Evangelon back in 2015, I swear I wanted to kill myself after the End of Evangelion because it was just MENTAL ISSUES the series.
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>>154238169

I feel ya, mate. My introduction to anime and manga was stumbling upon the first four volumes of the NGE manga back when I was like 13 or 14. Went to a public library one bored summer afternoon, saw the volumes and thought what the hell. After I started reading volume one, I ended up reading all four in one sitting. My teenage mind was absolutely blown. I thought it was the deepest shit ever.
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>>154238467
I't's about 3.33, kaworufag. Care to join?
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It's sad that fujos even today can't accept that they don't have enough evidence for their ship and yet keep ruining the treads with homo garbage
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>>154238566
>>154238518
Sorry but your shitposting has to end Kaworufag. Maybe alerting your other less clinically insane members will improve things. You need help. Stop shitting up our /a/ eva threads.
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>>154238602
>Tfw you'll never have an expierce like this bc Third World Country
I get everything from the net.
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>>154238648
Even ARK called you out, why do you keep deflecting?
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>>154238643
Personally I don't even mind that people "ship". It's when people get uber-cancerous like this: >>154238420
and start posting obviously fake and orchestrated images in the shitty /v/ style "I-IT'S NOT F-FAIR" things get obnoxious. I hope to god this is just one or two autistic asukafags or kaworufags that keep spamming this shit.
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>>154238648
you are the one being awful. tone down the autistic witch hunt
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If you want the gay/not gay shit or the inane Asuka vs. Rei fights that stink up every thread to go away, just FUCKING IGNORE THE SHITPOSTERS.

Don't take the bait.

Don't give them attention.
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One Reifag who calls everyone he doesn't like an Asukafag or a Kaworufag, even going into their threads

Can mods please ban this guy? He's the source of all the shitposting.
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>>154237887
People who shitpost about Eva obsessively are the worst, regardless of their favorite character.
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>>154237518
>>154237589
>>154237652
>>154237913

....aaand there it is again. When the 3.33fag understands that he can no longer spam buzzwords and fake argumentation, he immediately retreats and starts with insults.

What cowards.
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>>154238693
The guys who keep baiting and the ones taking the bait ruin the threads.
/endof
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>>154238741
Nice falseflag kaworufag.
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>>154238795
It's one Reifag who is doing the baiting, if the mods would just ban him we can achieve comfy status again.
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>>154238751
As we can see from these posts:

>>154238741
>>154238694
>>154238679

it really is just Asukafags and Kaworufags. The rest have been desperately trying to bring the thread back on track.
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>>154238818
>>154238842
>everyone he doesn't like an Asukafag or a Kaworufag
Even ARK called you out, come on.
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>>154238795
Ignore >>154238826 as that's not me. The problem is that the threshold for what is bait has been lowered so much it's impossible to carry on with a normal discussion. Try discussing 3.33 on a non-kindergartner level and people will explode when it's flaws are revealed, and then some Asuka and Kaworufags swoops in with the butthurt reifag rhetoric.
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>>154238679
>>154238876
Don't bring me into your neverending shitshow.
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>>154238876
So they are the two annoying Reifags in the fandom? Stop representing your communities like that.
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>>154238643
I think Kaworu a shit, but Shinji doesn't crave physical affection the way Misato and Asuka do; he wants an emotional connection, to be loved, which is exactly why he and Asuka never get together despite their clear interest in each other, and why he and Rei get on so much.
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>>154238913
Could you please just tell the Reifag to stop? You yourself know what he does.
I think it would help a great deal.
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>>154238876
Who the fuck is ARK, and why do you keep mentioning him? The sooner Kaworufags and Asukafags learn to pipe their retardation down, the sooner we can get back to good threads.
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>>154238942
Why's he a shit?
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>>154238986
>>154238935
ARK is an Asukafag, and the problem right now ate kaworufags.
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>>154239015
Because he's nothing but fujo pandering and dies
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>>154239015
He's a poorly written character who ruins others peoples lives?
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>>154239032
You shut down discussion by telling everyone who disagrees with you to go to tumblr or Asuka/Kaworufag
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>>154239032
>ate
Lol hello badgrammarfag
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>>154238986
It wouldn't help anything, and I have no idea why you think it would.

For the record, I hate the both of you.
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If Asukafags and Kaworufags think 3.33 is so great, why cant they defend it?
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>>154239091
Because maybe he would show a little self-awareness.
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>>154239076
No, that's the kaworufag here: >>154236715

Put the blame where it belongs.
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>>154239062
In the end, he encouraged Shinji to reach out to people and stop being stagnant, Shinji would have been fine never opening up to people if Kaworu didn't come along. He represents love in his heart, one of the reasons he rejected Instrumentality.
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>>154239099
Obviously they can't, because they hate Evangelion and like 3.33 for destroying parts of it. That's why they shitpost instead of talking about it. I think they tried once, but quickly learned that they couldn't get away with lying.
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>>154239126
This is no different than the retards saying I should take responsibility for Asukafags being retarded. It's more retarded, actually.
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>>154238942
In fact, Shinji shies away and is even sometimes disgusted by physical contact/affection.
Even a simple act of Kaworu holding his hand surprised him, but what surprised him more is that he doesn't pull away.
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>>154239099
I don't think it's great, but I think it's unfair to judge it as a standalone film.
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>>154239146
>In the end, he encouraged Shinji to reach out to people and stop being stagnant
Didn't happen.

Fanwank isn't canon, anon.

>>154239199
>It's more retarded, actually.
What do you expect from retarded asuka fans and kaworu fans?
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>>154239199
But this is the same retard who said that.

It's just one guy.
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>>154239216
How is it unfair? That's just admitting it's shit.
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>>154239201
Bingo.
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>actually summoning ARK
Truly just what this abysmal thread needed.
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>>154239216
But it is bad as a stand alone film and as part of a series.
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>>154239224
Uh yeah it says in the EOE filmbook he was the first person Shinji opened his heart to. In EOE we see Shinji heed Shinji and Rei's words and reach out to people. Don't be blinded by hate.
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>>154239272
In what way
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>>154239267
At least he doesn't try to ruin threads like the Reifag.
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>>154239091
ARK can you please tell your fellow Asuka fans to stop shitposting so hard?
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>>154239099
asukafag here, and i hate 3.33. the only thing i somewhat like about it is that it is just pure fucking schlock, with space battles and shit. its the same way you enjoy some horrible action film from the 80s. it is a shit film.
2.22 is worse though
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>>154239239
I sure hope not.

>>154239224
You're not helping yourself.

>>154239317
You're retarded.
>>
Biggest question I have:

Why not send every angel at the same time? Why make them fight only one at a time? They could have sent Zaruel and like Ireul to completely fucking destroy both the outside and the inside in a few hours, yet they chose to attack only one at a time. Why's that? Don't they all have the same goal?
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>>154239305
Your first mistake was thinking you could have a rational conversation with a waifufag.
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>>154239305
Kaworu and Rei's words*
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>>154239305
>Uh yeah it says in the EOE filmbook he was the first person Shinji opened his heart to.

Not canon mate. It needs to be in the series. Besides, it doesn't matter because Kaworu is a shit character regardless of what some filmbook says. Shinji opening his heart to a character doesn't make that character great or good.

>>154239345
Lol kaworufag.

>>154239319
2.22 isn't worse.
>>154239344
They work independently.
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>>154239343
It really is the exact same guy. I'm not even kidding.

This is why I think if something could be done about him the quality of threads would immediately go up.
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>>154239345
Stop being mad you are getting owned, Kaworufag
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>>154239398
You're the first one who needs to leave. While he's obnoxious, he at least does present discussion. His arguments are usually awful, but it's better than anything you do.
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>>154239345
Yeah man they put the blame on others for shitting up threads when they can't control the hate they spew over characters and still think they're the rational ones.
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>>154239344
The official canon answer is they don't know of each other's existence.
The better answer is it's a fucking Anime and they'd be way too OP if they came together.

>Don't they all have the same goal?
No, actually. Some want to reach Adam, some just want to get rid of all the humans via Lilith, some want to understand the humans, and some are just confused and are wrecking shit.
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>>154239486
You need to leave too. Everyone leave.
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>>154239486
I've been lurking most of the thread, actually. My Eva questions keep getting ignored which is why I'm appealing to you.
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>>154239398
Quality of the threads can only go up if we get rid of the spamming Asuka and Kaworufags that ruin them. Not your boogieman. We see the same asukafags and kaworufags in every single thread spamming "shinji is gay/trans/bi/hetero" and whatever, and we see them repost the same shitposting images every time as well.

Let's not forget the fireposter, and the toiletposter, whose sole business is to spam. Let's not forget the kaworufag who came on /a/ to apologize for her behavior and she went crazy after posting an image of herself. These are the problems, the barrier between good Eva threads and bad Eva threads.

We are unable to discuss Evangelion beyond shipping and meta because of these people. It'd be perfectly nice to discuss the Rebuilds or the original on fair, equal terms that didn't resort to bringing in doujins and interviews to defend a ship.

The shipping was NEVER the point of Evangelion. But after 20 years, it's maybe all that remains, and maybe I'm naive in thinking that somewhere there's people who want to talk about Evangelion.
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>>154239534
I'm telling you, we need a temporary blanket ban.
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>>154239498
Do the angels really know there's Lilith down there?
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>>154239574
Yeah, by getting rid of Kaworu and Asuka fans.
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>>154239568
>firememe
When was the last time this was actually relevant? Was there any purpose at all in bringing this up? Your penchant for shitposting is worse than granddpa dying..
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>>154239574
Agree, permabanning the asuka and kaworu fans would instantly boost thread quality.
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>>154239568
The guy spamming Shinji is hetero is a Reifag though.
It's most likely you.
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>>154239397
>>154239498
>They work independently.
Why did they all wait the same amount of time (15 years) to start their goals, and where were they hiding to be able to avoid the AT field readings?
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>>154239620
That's why the /c/ontainment thread for Reifags is a staunch example of engaging discourse, right?
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>>154239577
All of them most likely assumed it was Adam.
Except Gaghiel.
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>>154239534
Basically.

>>154239553
I don't know why you think me saying anything would change either of your minds.
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>>154239577
They can feel she's there.

>>154239621
It's an Asukafag. Everyone knows it.

>>154239627
Some of them are still growing, and are not yet able to sense the danger.
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Reminder that Shinji is canonically heterosexual and stating otherwise is just pure speculation
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>>154239627
It took them 15 years to grow, they've only just started making their way to Japan by sensing Lilith.
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>>154239616
Explain to me why you're mad about bringing up the embarrasing history of Asuka fans on this board. The problem is that you're extremely fucking biased and refuse to accept that their consistent shitposting over the years hasn't been a huge problem and a strain on the board as a whole.

This embarrasing history continues today.
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>>154239703
Is this an Asukafag or Reifag?
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>>154239690
>>154239703
No, you're a falseflagging Reifag. You even admitted to it some time ago.

All you care about is shipping.
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>>154239690
>>154239717
Well that answers my questions. Thanks guys.
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>>154239670
I actually go there when I want something answered. Beats this hellhole.
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>>154239670
Actually, it's the best thread for discussion on 4chan when it comes to Evangelion. It's the most active of the character threads, and is not spammed to death with images like the Kaworu or asuka threads are just in order to get to the next thread.

>>154239725
Asukafag, one admitted it in another thread. Embarrased Asukafags and shitposting Kaworufags desperate to pin everything on Reifags claim otherwise though.
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>>154239703
shinji is bi
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>>154239679
Because I think this guy has convinced himself he isn't part of the problem.
It would be a good wake up call.

You already called him out once, despite it being a long time ago.
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>>154239750
No problem anon.
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>>154239798
>>154239769
Tell me more, fellow unbiased observers.
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>>154239748
Nope i'm an Asukafag, stop projecting insane fujo or at least be useful and post your tits like you always do. You're so triggered over shinji's heterosexuality
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>>154239799
Please stop responding to the Reifag, he'll continue to shit up the thread with shipping nonsense.
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all of you faggots need to stop with the waifushit desu

asukafags, reifags, and kaworufags need to leave or shut the fuck up about their shit waifu. no-one cares about this autistic waifu shit. just fucking discuss Eva, not this metacancer.
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>>154239722
>dodging the question just to spout further ideology and butthurt
Can you try not feeding into the stereotype?
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>>154239748
You're fucking insane.
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>>154239799
You can't pove it, i'm sorry
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>>154239841
You're a Reifag and you aren't fooling anyone.
Stop derailing threads with shipping.
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>>154239836
The facts aren't biased anon.

- Most active thread
- Highest regular posts / image post ratio
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>>154239875
>>154239876
Yes, we know you're phoneposting Reifag.
It's obvious.
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>>154239887
Nah you can tell from the bad grammar its an Asuka fan.
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>>154239804
Your reasoning doesn't make any sense.

You definitely are the two people causing the most problems for these threads, though.
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>>154239887
You first. Stop spamming "Shinji a gay, Kaworu hetero" or "Anno loves Iku-chan" bullshit every thread
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While all of us may have different opinions of Rebuild, we can all agree that rebuild's angel design is, for the most part, better, right? I didn't like how "organic" the original designs felt. The rebuild angels constantly shift their physical form, emphasizing the fact that they really don't have a set silhouette and aren't normal lifeforms like humans or animals.
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>>154239943
You did enough just by admitting he's part of the problem. Thank you.
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>>154239867
The question was not dodged. The facts are that over the past - no forget it, since forever asuka fans have been extremely obnoxious and continues to this day. Just look at this: >>154239937
>>154239876
>>154239748
>>154239703

blatant shitposting. It never has any end. The people answering Eva questions are also Rei fans by the look of it.

It was always relevant, and you're just extremely butthurt about it. Dont' like it? CHANGE IT THEN, START TELLING YOUR FELLOW ASUKA AND KAWORU FANS TO STOP THIS ENDLESS SHITPOSTING CRUSADE.

It will never end otherwise.
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>>154239616
What's grandpa dying? Idgi
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>>154239915
That doesn't mean that any of those posts are actually good. For example, /b/
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>>154239996
No way, Clockiel or whatever the fuck its name is has an over-cluttered and dumb design.
I prefer the more simple angels of NGE.
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>>154239996
Only in some cases like with Ramiel.

>>154240023
It means there's discussion to be had. Unlike here, where butthurt kaworu fans and asuka fans roam.
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>>154240020
You're still dodging the question. You're refusing to answer when the last time fireposter was actually even relevant.
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>>154239993
The Anno Ikuhara thing is funny. But everyone knows Anno x Miyazaki is superior
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>>154240022
A Reifag said the Manga ending of Rei dying (Even though she died in EoE too) made him more depressed than when his grandfather died.

Sick, I know.
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>>154240075
And everyone knows Shinji is heterosexual yet they continue to spread the bullshit
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>>154239996
nah, the angels in the rebuilds are fucking garbage and schlock. ramiel turned from an intimidating mysterious shape into a big budget hollywood CGI mess

the rebuild angels are so over-the-top. they look like shit. "less is more", remember?
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So we have one confirmed shitposting Asukafag who keeps spamming the "shinji is bi/hetero" whatever nonsense. Then there's kaworu fans who spam that he's gay.

Both are trying to pin their shitty behavior on Rei fans. Why don't we just ban all the asuka fans and kaworu fans?
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>>154240059
>discussion to be had
Oh, sure, I'm really invested in the menagerie of Reifags blogposting about boring shit, christ, what stimulating discourse. You're totally right, there's just so much highbrow stuff going on there.
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>>154240075
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>>154240115
why dont you ban all waifufags and solve the fucking problem entirely?
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>>154240066
It's not a relevant question, if you want it answered then go search the archives. "Fireposter" was just one of many. The Asuka fans are as a group complete shitposters who do not wish that one discusses Evangelion. This is why they break down all Evangelion threads they enter.
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>>154239993
Anno Ikuhara thing is funny, fuck off.

Stop spamming Shinji a hetero every thread, make your own thread if you want to discuss that don't derail others with off-topic baiting bullshit.
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>>154240105
Who said anything about Shinji? We're talking about Anno.
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>>154240146
Because you'd still exist, posting as if you just came from gaia. Capitalize your fucking sentences. It's not that hard.
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>>154240105
>And everyone knows Shinji is heterosexual yet they continue to spread the bullshit
prove it. you can't
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>>154240115
The guy spreading Shinji is hetero is a confirmed falseflagging Reifag.
He's doing it to try to force a narrative that Asukafags and Kaworufags are shipping and Reifags aren't.
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>>154240164
>still dodging the question
You're doing a real good job at proving my point, so thank you for that. Meanwhile, there are a few Reifags in this very thread throwing a tantrum in all caps.
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>>154240180
He never masturbated to a boy or had sexual thoughts involiving a male body ulike women's. Simple.
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>>154212870
Either Anno threw that shit in at the end because he wanted to be all deep and shit but he completely fucking forgot that the bitch died, like 12feet under in that fight against the pseudo angels.
Or it's as rumor stated, he had a crush on asuka's va and he took a lot of frustration out on her through the relationship between asuka and shinji.

The ending makes fuck all sense, even if you simply say(maybe she didn't die) because she literally depends on what people think of her and being a pilot to define who she is and her great awakening, which is still an asspull, was basically her mother in her unit acknowledging her.
She'd be in that fucking tang forever.

I still stick by the idea that Shinji conjoured up a fusion of the first rei and asuka.
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>>154240146
Because all waifu fans aren't the problem. Misato fans, Maya fans, or people with a favorite character in general. You have Asuka fan cancer like this one (we know it's an asuka fan because he is always anal about spelling and tells people to go to gaia) >>154240173
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>>154240090
Wow.
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>>154240217
Fuck off Reifag, stop ruining Eva threads.
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>>154240208
It is a confirmed fact that it is an asukafag. That agenda is simply the facts.
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>>154240217
idiot
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>>154240225
>I still stick by the idea that Shinji conjoured up a fusion of the first rei and asuka.
That is correct, they are the the ones he desired both sexually and romantically afterall
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>>154240225
Did you even watch the movie.
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>>154240275
He (you) admitted to being a Reifag, fuck off already.
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>>154240208
No one believes you. You're just proving that Kaworufags and Asukafags are irredeemable cancer at this point. Look at the threads of those fanbases. Who discusses shipping the most? Asukafags and Kaworufags.

Face it, you're done. You're only lying for yourself here.
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>>154240281
I'm an idiot for stating the facts you sure really showed me, fujo. Prove me wrong
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>>154240268
I bet it must hurt, huh? To see proof of Asukafags and kaworufags being shit every single day, and that you're one of them.

Are you the guy shitposting on /c/ by the way? The one that's mad that asukafags talk about shipping in the thread?

You are alone, so very alone among your own.
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>>154240328
>>154240338
Bruh, you keep posting your computer post and then your phonepost right after the other.
It's obvious as fuck, Reifag.

You admitted to it was you, get over yourself.
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>>154240296
Asuka came back by herself, no one wished her back. Don't claim to be a fan of her if you think she has no agency of her own. That theory is just wish fullfillment bullshit for fedora lovers, Shinji getting his "dream girl" as a reward. How fucking awful.
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>>154240322
>Insane fujoshi is at it again
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Reifag damage control is fucking epic.

Did you get BTFO so hard yesterday that you still can't calm down?
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>>154240389
Insanity at it's finest
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>>154240238
thats true actually.

i am an asukafag, i'll admit, but i really just want to read the fucking thread and have an actually good discussion about evangelion, not hear any of these autists screeching over whether kaworu, asuka, or rei are best and/or canon
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>>154240389
Wanna pretend I shopped this, and even added little red lines there as well?

Just accept that you're clinically insane.
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>>154240468
Yes, we already know you're phoneposting.

You even admitted to being a Reifag like two weeks ago, why are you denying it?
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>>154240447
You can help though. It takes enormous courage to stand against people you consider your own.

If you'd advise the members of team red to stop being such shitposters, things could go back to normal.
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>>154240447
Help us rein in the other asukafags. I saw Reifags get another reofag banned in their thread for misbehaving. It can be done.
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>>154240521
Then tell them to stop at /c/
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The fujo is getting bonkers because she can't prove that Shinji isn't straight
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You know what to do.

>>>/c/2842546
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Was Misato seeking to pleasure herself too when she offered sex to shinji, or did she do it only as an act of compassion?
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>>154240497
That's not a phone screencap, and this is all on kaworu fans and Asuka fans, not Rei fans.

Stop shoving off your sins onto other people.
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>>154240306
Yes, her activating her mecha made no sense but was a cool moment so people just assumed she had a revelation.

She also fucking DIED LONG before the impact took place. She should not be a part of the tang.

As a matter of fact, even if she were, going by her mental state and everything we all know about her personality, she would be 100% UNABLE to leave the tang even if she did live JUUUUST long enough to be tanged.
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>>154240583
It's the only way she knows how to reach out to men.
Probably a mix of trying to distract herself from missing Kaji, too.

>>154240589
No one cares, fuck off already.
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>>154240583
That she at all offered sex to Shinji is speculation.

>>154240627
Oh so NOW no one cares, that you're sad delusion is broken. Eat it up and cry.
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>>154240563
Shinji is straight, though.
And so is Kaworu.
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>>154240682
Yeah, they practice being straight together.
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>>154240660
Watch the scene, there's phallic imagery when Shinji was lying down.
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>>154240660
Is this your list?
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>>154240561
Reifags are truly the most righteous members of this god forsaken fanbase.

Watch and learn, other fanbases.
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>>154240614
people who died at least a few hours before the impact turned into tang though.

forgive me if im wrong, but i swear there was a shot of where misato died and there was a puddle of LCL where she was when third impact started. also rei was standing over her when she died.
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>>154240682
Shinji is a straight transgirl. Kaworu is gay and not interested in her romantically.
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>>154240708
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>>154240713
Some times a cigar is just a cigar.
- attributed to Sigmund Freud
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>>154240745
Wow Anno, so progressive!
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>>154240715
It's close. On my list, I'd put Kaworu last, Fuyu higher up, Gendo above Kaji. Asuka above Misato.

Not a "favorite character" list by the way.
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>>154240748
TWO BROS CHILLING IN A HOT TUB, FIVE FEET APART BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT GAYY
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>>154240713
>Watch the scene, there's phallic imagery when Shinji was lying down.

What's more important, though anon?

The fact that Misato does not at all communicate that she's offering sex, and is at that point physically incapable of doing so?

OR

The interpretation of a chair as a penis?

Real-world happenings > dirty minds of fanboys.
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>>154240742
No.
Fucking Rei MURDERED Gendo. He didn't get tanged.

Meaning that people die when they are killed.
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Why do people always talk about Shinji haters when there's a lot more Mari or Kaworu haters?
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>>154240813
I thought you hated Asuka, why would she be higher?
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>>154240869
Because Mari and Kaworu haters are justified. Shinji and Rei haters are not.
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>>154240866
I don't think Shinji would react so violently if she was just offering to hold his hand.
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>>154240869
Shinji hate is widespread, even beyond /a/
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>>154240866
She did offer him sex in EoE also for comfort
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>>154240874
Maybe what you thought was wrong?

>>154240869
The real problem is Rei haters, and Shinji haters. Mari gets a lot of hate because she's new, and Kaworu gets hate because he played a big part in more or less ruining the entire franchise.

>>154240905
You've clearly never seen a hormonal, depressed 14 year old who doesn't want mummy to huggy and clingy. He just told Misato to go away.
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>>154240910
Only casual fans who don't get the series hate him.
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>same 10-20 people shitting up Eva threads and repeating the same shit over and over again until the results are satisfying which they'll never be and dropping their spaghetti for several years already
what's the point
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>>154240965
You constantly call Asuka a plot device and otaku character
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>>154240991
Kawoshin is shit lol
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>>154240958
Not for comfort, but as the last thing Misato did. Sort of fucked up, really. In fact, what the fuck Misato?

>>154240981
Don't forget Kaworu and Asuka fans, they also hate Shinji. He's nothing but a shipping prize to them. They're OK with he entire world being destroyed and all Shinji loves and likes being trampled upon, just to get their fill of satisfaction.

Kaworu x Shinji paints Shinji as the eternal pathetic fuckup, who Kaworu is "noble" to love.
Asuka x Shinji paints Shinji as the eternal cuckold beta who gets punched, kicked and abused left and right to satisfy Asuka for tsundere magic.
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>>154240820
Ikr? Nothing gay at all. Stupid fujos ruining a perfect bromance with their retarded shipping!
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>>154241023
She is, relatively speaking. Now more than ever. I only deal with the facts. Some people can't handle them.
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Newfags keep mediocre memes alive.
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>>154241092
Then why would you put her higher
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>>154241024
Why do you see gay in everything, you closet homo?
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>>154241024
*Anno's otp.
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>>154241108
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>>154241117
The pic cleary says "kawoshin was a mistake" you really want to paint everyone who disagrees with you as homos to feel better, huh?
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>>154239051
I don't understand how he's fujo pandering when he's 100% heterosexual.
Fujos will ship anything.
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>>154241023
That's true though. No normal person likes bitches or cunts like Asuka. They're going to dig either Rei or Misato of the girls. Rei most likely, because zoMG TEH REI. Only an otaku is capable of liking Asuka because she's not just a bitch, but a platform for imagination and tsundere fantasy escapism.

That's why Asuka serves as a warning to the otaku fanbases of what happens when you delve into escapism too much. It's also why Anno reveals Asuka's true role as a sex doll for otaku in EoE, by having the self-insert sexually abuse a lifeless, motionless Asuka who can't resist the otaku, because she isn't "real".

All of this doesn't mean Asuka isn't a good character. It's her role to be like this in NGE.
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>>154241024
*canon Eva is shit lol
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>>154241057
What a bunch of strawmen you've put up.
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>>154241202
You're literally a butthurt fujo
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>>154241108
This is such a retarded meme, it should have died ages ago.
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>>154241184
How does any of this make her a plot device?
And you constantly say anyone who likes Asuka doesn't get EVA, but that post proves you do like Asuka?
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>>154240660
>That she at all offered sex to Shinji is speculation.
It's pretty fucking blatant even on the first watch through.
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>>154241171
No way, Anno would never say that. He loves Kawoshin which is why he always panders to it.
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>>154241114
Because even though Asuka is a fuckup, she's still an important character of NGE. Which is why it's sad that 99.9% of Asuka """fans""" deny that the original even exists in favor of their own fantasy Asuka.

>>154241203
That's an inherent mechanic to each of their relationships.

Asuka abuses Shinji, and that's "cute". Because tsun tsun dere dere.
Kaworu loves Shinji unconditionally despite Shinji being weak and pathetic.

Both Asuka and Kaworu fans require Shinji abuse in order to engage with the character, and this also means they hate the character. You can't explain why they liked 3.33 otherwise.
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>>154241228
You're literally a closet faggot
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>>154241183
Kaworu is so beauty.
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>>154241272
>despite Shinji being weak and pathetic
But he's not weak and pathetic. Kaworu never thinks of him that way.
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>>154241283
I've never masturbated to a man in my life just like Shinji
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>>154241247
>How does any of this make her a plot device?

If we increase our standards, Asuka doe become a plot device. A plot device exists to move the plot along, and that is much of Asuka's role in NGE. The point is that Asuka is a puppet whose personal choices do not matter, and in fact, her personal choices aren't even hers, but NERV's.

Even in EoE, her "fight" is because of NERV putting her there, and her death only serves to agitate Shinji into bringing back the spear. A character who doesn't take a single step in the entire movie, or has no real conclusion but the one you make up in your head concerning what happened AFTER the movie, is not a complete character.

That is, if we increase our standards to the level of Shinji or Rei.
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>>154241108
I fucking hate this meme so much
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>>154241342
Yet you think about Shinji's erections a lot
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I suddenly noticed a full-blown faggotry within Eva fans. Are those just newfags trying to ironically be homo or fujos trying to turn everyone degenerate?
I mean, we had nice discussions 10 or so years ago and now there are only shipping wars. Either way, the rate of newfaggotry ITT is atrocious.
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>>154241367
No, she's a foil to Shinji.
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>>154241367
>A plot device exists to move the plot along
Rei does that too. That makes Rei a plot device.
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>>154241401
I like baiting stupid fujos like you
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>>154241334
>But he's not weak and pathetic. Kaworu never thinks of him that way.

Yes, he does. He patronizes Shinji and tells him his heart is like glass, and treats him like a princess. But the point is that Kaworu fans, actual real people, do this.

Otherwise, they wouldn't enjoy Shinji's pain in orderf or Kaworu to accept him, or blame Shinji for things that are obviouslynot his fault.

Had Kaworu fans actually liked Shinji as more as an uke to Kaworu's seme, they'd be holding hands with Rei fans protesting. But here they are, hating on both.
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>>154241414
Falseflagging Reifag you are not fooling anyone here. Can you just fuck off?
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>>154241238
>>154241398
You know how having a retard or tourette's kid in a class makes things "fun" once in a while, even if in a stupid kind of way.
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>>154241414
How old are you? Stop being a loser and get a job.
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>>154241414
/a/ was always fairly gay
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>>154241440
No, because Rei's decisions that affected the plot were developed and part of the entire character's arc. It's Rei's choice, her will.

>>154241432
That too, but that only reinforces the point. A character not for it's own ends, but for others.
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>>154241448
I like triggering your autism, stupid faggot.
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>>154241453
>He patronizes Shinji and tells him his heart is like glass
That's not patronizing at all. Shinji is sensitive, there's nothing wrong with that.

Kaworu even tells Shinji it's not his fault either, so I'm not sure what you're arguing here.
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>>154241453
Many people like Kawoshinrei.
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>>154241414
It's a Kaworufag being insane as usual in these threads. There was a massive influx of the pests after 3.33. Here's one of them: >>154241464

Early 4chan was more Rei friendly and actually carried amazing discussions, all of that disappeared when more Asuka fans came, and things truly went to hell after Kaworu fans came.
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>>154241520
You're just butthurt over your headcanon being disproven
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Post your favorite angel
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>>154241493
>It's Rei's choice, her will.
It can't be because she said she's doing everything as Gendo wants
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>>154241493
Asuka has her own story with her own struggles and she doesn't just revolve around the MC. Holy fuck, stop being a butthurt Reifag.
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>>154241464
I'm not a reifag, retard. Choose your words, newfag
>>154241486
Not really, there was ironic shitposting from time to time, but not like now. Old /a/ Eva threads were fine because of anons sharing their life experiences and comparing them to Eva. Thus they understood it better.
>>154241479
I'm 27. I have a job. Can't I have a hobby?
>>154241552
I'm more of an Asuka fan myself, but it seems that Rebuild actually shitted on both characters and their fanbases. More fapping kids came in screaming about shippings and shit. Disgusting.
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>>154241594
Carl claimed
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>>154241532
>That's not patronizing at all. Shinji is sensitive, there's nothing wrong with that.

That's patronizing.
> to act as patron of : provide aid or support for The government patronized several local artists.

>Kaworu even tells Shinji it's not his fault either, so I'm not sure what you're arguing here.
No, he doesn't. He tells Shinji that everyone blames him, but not a single word about what actually happened. A lot of things happened in those 14 years, and Kaworu only told Shinji that he's somehow part of the destruction.

Nothing about how WILLE was formed or how things progressed. Only that they blamed him, and that Kaworu would help him. You can make a good case for Kaworu being evil, or that he's simply retarded.

Point being, 3.33 came to exist to cater to Kaworu fans. To cater maximally to Kaworu fans, it required the destruction of the world, Rei would have to be destroyed as competition, and everyone would suddenly hate Shinji so that he'd have no other option than come to Kaworu.

This is what Kaworu fans defend and crave, the destruction of everything but Shinji and Kaworu.
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>>154241588
>he thinks he's baiting me and I'm unironically concerned, while I'm just having a good laugh at how autistic and immature can one be .
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>>154241594
Leliel's pretty cool.
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>>154241588
Whatever you say, Reifag
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>>154241696
Look everyone the fujo lost it again
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>>154241654
>It can't be because she said she's doing everything as Gendo wants
No, she says the opposite actually. Does the opposite too. See episode 6 for instance, she says she doesn't pilot because Gendo says so explicitly.

>>154241660
>Asuka has her own story with her own struggles and she doesn't just revolve around the MC.
Well somewhat, the thing is that Asuka's story has no real conclusion, and she is ultimately a foil and a plot device.

Not everything boils down to this "Holy fuck, stop being a butthurt Reifag." . Some times it's the cold hard truth.
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>>154241740
Nice projections, fag.
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>>154241544
>many
More like Misato x Pen Pen, or Shinji x Toji. Shippers can't be reasoned with.
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>>154241754
>Some times it's the cold hard truth
Yes. And the truth is Asuka reached a conclusion and grew up as a character. Grow up yourself and accept this cold hard truth.
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>>154241688
>No, he doesn't.
He does, he tells Shinji word from word: "It's not your fault."

Before when they're looking at the world, he tells Shinji the lilin blame him for it due to his actions of near third impact. And it's true, the lilin do blame him for it.
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>>154241678
>Complains about shipping
>Posts shipping picture
Eh
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>>154241754
Rei would kill herself if Gendo told her to, like a puppet.
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>>154241807
Shipping pisses so many people off. I like it now.
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I wonder what the mods would think about seeing 50% of the posts in this thread all belonging to the same Reifag.
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>>154241837
What's wrong with posting a picture?
Here's kawoshin if you're irritated by pictures with Asuka and Shinji
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>>154241904
Just pointing out how he's a hypocrite. Also I hate karlshaun.
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>>154241904
>karl shaun
DELET
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>>154241678
>>154241904
What do you think, was Shinji attracted to Kaworu for real or it's just bullshit that fujos made up? To me, it's obvious
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>>154241990
>he's
But that's me you're replying to
>also I hate karlshaun
And what do you like?
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>>154241819
>He does, he tells Shinji word from word: "It's not your fault."
Was this at the end? That's after the disaster has happened. Not only that, even if he said that at the beginning, there's the problem about Kaworu not telling Shinji what happened. Asserting that

- everyone hates you, Shinji!
- but I don't

is simply manipulating Shinji and cutting him off from the rest. This is abusive behavior which could be countered with Kaworu engaging Shinji and helping him, and to help him with Rei Q.

You're also missing the main point: 3.33 came to exist to cater to Kaworu fans. To cater maximally to Kaworu fans, it required the destruction of the world, Rei would have to be destroyed as competition, and everyone would suddenly hate Shinji so that he'd have no other option than come to Kaworu.

This is what Kaworu fans defend and crave, the destruction of everything but Shinji and Kaworu.
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>>154242032
It's obvious to me too.
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>>154241978
You replied to the wrong post.
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>>154242066
The information is fujo based. Not canon.
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>>154242032
He was attracted to Kaworu for real, but fujos make too much of a big deal out of it and scream "canon-canon-CANON!!!!" And push their ship so hard and so often it irritates me and makes me feel ashamed for being an Eva fan
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>>154241990
>>154242017
What did they mean by this? KarlShaun is truly the superior version of Kawoshin.
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>>154242041
You called "shippings and shit" disgusting so....
I like kawoshin, but not manga kawoshin.
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>>154241809
>Yes. And the truth is Asuka reached a conclusion and grew up as a character. Grow up yourself and accept this cold hard truth.

If that was the truth, we'd have some scenes that showed her development. We don't have that, so ergo it's a fabrication of your imagination.

Asuka is
>implying character development
-the character.

>>154241856
Ideally she'd kill herself in battle if ordered. If she'd actually do it in a given situation, is another question. She's equally capable of ignoring an order as she is to follow it.

Refer to NGE, where she says she doesn't pilot because Gendo orders her to, but because of her own sense of duty to the people. This is why Rei easily will kill herself in order to defeat the enemy, but won't always follow Gendo's orders.
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>>154242058
How did he not tell Shinji what happened?
He said a near impact occurred based on his actions from the end of 2.0.

He told Shinji the lilin blamed him for it, and that is true. They do blame him for it.
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>>154242099
It'z becauz zo many fagz denyz itz
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>>154242066
http://desuarchive.org/a/search/filename/homosexual%20love%20interest.jpg/

Wow, get a fucking life. I'm with >>154242095
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>>154242099
I don't see it personally but thanks for sharing your opinion. The show just lacks a solid evidence for it
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>>154242099
He's just "baiting" as usual. He's insane.
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>>154242095
It's from Parano, it's not fujobased. Whatever that means.

>>154242121
Don't do this here.
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>>154242136
Character development can be negative, fool. Doesn't mean there's no decelopment.
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>>154242168
Its canon, its from a book about Anno's interviews. People who project onto Shinji can get a life.
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>>154242168
Whenever the topic comes up I post it, what's wrong with that?
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>>154242183
Nope the fujos are insane, seeing homo in everything even if the creator said it wasn't sexual
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>>154242200
If it's negative it shouldn't be called development then. It would be degradation.
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>>154242169
>the show just lacks a solid evidence for it
Yeah, I could say so too, but it seems obvious from a shoujoesque point of view and from what Anno-chan planned to do with it earlier. In my opinion, whatever Anno-chan thinks about Iku-chan is what Shinji thinks of Kaworu, I guess. Anyway, sexual attraction doesn't matter a bit desu. Funks push it too hard and focus their attention on it usually. What's important is emotional support etc.
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>>154242152
>How did he not tell Shinji what happened?
>He said a near impact occurred based on his actions from the end of 2.0.

That's not telling him what happened. Shinji doesn't know what a NTI is, much less a third impact. Nor does it explain how things evolved over the past 14 years. Last we saw Shinji, the impact was averted, and didn't cause any of the changes to NERV or the planet as we see in 3.33.

Shinji is unable to connect the fact that a "near third impact" was caused to an action of his own doing. Something no one is able to do today without fanwanking, by the way. This is cruel negligence, and Shinji had to beg Kaworu to tell him this little bit.

>He told Shinji the lilin blamed him for it, and that is true. They do blame him for it.
Shinji already knows everyone blames him, but he has no clue what a "Lilin" is. The point here is that Kaworu is presenting himself as a savior, against everyone else who hates him.

This scenario was written for Kaworu fans, and they demand seeing Shinji brought down.
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>>154242253
free (you)
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>>154242253
But he calls Kaworu Shinji's love interest in this book, I just posted the screenshot of it:

https://www.amazon.com/Anno-Hideaki-Parano-Evangelion-this/dp/4872333160
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>>154242282
No way, its the waifufags who are obsessed with Shinji's sexuality.
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>>154241978
The Shinji x Kaworu pairing always bothered me since the original series because Kaworu always seemed to be manipulating Shinji.

A lot of people said that everyone hated Shinji in the original series but the other characters(except Gendo))did care about him in their own way but were too messed up to help Shinji or themselves.

I'm honestly not sure where the Rebuilds are heading. I would like to see the others try to forgive Shinji but I really doubt it.
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>>154242200
Well yes, but I'm talking about the finale. I'd also argue that Asuka doesnt' develop or regress as a character, she just stays the same person - which is the problem. She begins out fucked up, and dies a fucked up person without either improving or regressing. Her problem is stagnation.

Contrast this with Rei, who comes to understand more of not just herself, but also others - incurring a change in her own person. This is character development.
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>>154242282
>sexual attraction doesn't matter a bit
It does though, i'm tired of seeing all the "Shinji is bisexual" bullishit.
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>>154242305
He didn't. It's just some random writer who wrote it.
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>>154242341
He never manipulates Shinji. You can make a case for that in Q, but in NGE he was completely innocent, which is why he himself gets manipulated and dies.
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>>154242291
Shinji asked Kaworu for answers, Kaworu gave them. You may not find those answers sufficient, but they were enough for Shinji not to ask anymore.

Never once did Kaworu blame Shinji, which is what you implied.
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>>154242408
Not true, the Amazon description even says the entire book is just one long Anno interview.
You don't have a source for that claim.
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Why every single thread ends up discussing who Shinji wants to fuck?

Who here got dick stuck up his ass and bothering him so much it's the only thing in their mind?
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>>154242341
>I'm honestly not sure where the Rebuilds are heading. I would like to see the others try to forgive Shinji but I really doubt it.

The Rebuilds have been heading in the same direction since 2.22, which would be to cater to Kaworu and Asuka fans. This is why Kaworu is included since the start, and it's why Asuka is completely remodeled to be a good girl now with no flaws except being tsun tsun dere dere.

Because both Asuka and Kaworu fans hate Rei for her popularity, she needed to be destroyed, which explains what the Rebuilds and Khara has done with Rei so far. Whenever Shinji suffers, or Rei gets kicked by Anno, Kaworu fans and Asuka fans cheer. Enter Rei Q and their love of it, Rei as the doll they always wanted.

That's where Rebuild is headed, the deliberate destruction of Evangelion in order to please Kaworu fans and Asuka fans. This is why Shinji suffers, they need it.
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the definition of pretentious
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>>154242469
Because this guy: >>154242367
keeps bringing it up
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>>154242408
Yeah well, there's still the JUNE interview, 3.0 poster, and official anthology, drafts, original show, scripts, storyboards, etc etc
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>>154242466
The only thing that metters is he didn't show sexuall attraction towards him, making him stay as heterosexual
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>>154242491
You never stated any of this until 3.33.
You never had a problem with the Rebuilds or said they were pandering until 3.33.
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>>154242367
homoerotic
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>>154242422
>Shinji asked Kaworu for answers, Kaworu gave them. You may not find those answers sufficient, but they were enough for Shinji not to ask anymore.

He doesn't ask any more because Kaworu seems to have went all in in shocking Shinji. Then he lets Fuyutsuki have his way with him. He implicitly blames Shinji as well by putting the worlds blame on him and not explaining the circumstances.

Not explaining why Kaworu does not blame Shinji. Also, still forgetting the main point:

Shinji already knows everyone blames him, but he has no clue what a "Lilin" is. The point here is that Kaworu is presenting himself as a savior, against everyone else who hates him.

This scenario was written for Kaworu fans, and they demand seeing Shinji brought down.
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>>154242542
Where is your proof?
Shinji blushes at Kaworu as soon as he sees his face, that seems to be sexual attraction.

We can come to this conclusion just by the episode, but of course everything else just supports it.
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>>154242528
From the june interview:
>Speaking about the blushing, is it because Shinji was happy that someone said they like him?
>Anno: Yes, Shinji-kun really didn't experience carnal desire there *laugh*.
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>>154242602
That was only the bath scene. He calls it a JUNE like, homoerotic production that goes beyond friendship.
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>>154242528
The dude is just trolling.

Anno says in parano Kaworu is Shinji's love interest. The discussion is closed, let him spam all he wants.

>>154242602
That's just the blushing bath scene. Anno still says they are homoerotic, more than friends, and that Kaworu is Shinij's love interest.

You can't no homo any of that. Or the other times he blushed.
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>>154242568
And? "Homoerotic" refers to aesthetic involving to boys doing ambigiously homo things. Not that they're gay themself.
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>>154242543
When you fly a helicopter out to sea towards an oil platform, you are notified that you've reached a "point of no return". That was 3.33. The point where it was no longer possible to work with the various changes to create a decent, respectable story that was more than pandering.

NGE always had fanservice. It always had lighthearted moments. But not despite, but thanks to those moments, we were able to create the fanastic drama of the original. Light reflects best against dark.

With Rebuild, the pandering and fanservice never ended and showed it's most destructive and ugly form yet: 3.33 - a film only the blissfully ignorant and the hateful otaku could enjoy.
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>>154242645
>That was only the bath scene
How delusional you can be? If it was Asuka he'd pop up a boner in an instant
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>>154242654
No it means homo erotic. Gay sexual stuff.
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>>154242573
>Kaworu seems to have went all in in shocking Shinji
Shinji asked Kaworu for answers, would you prefer he sugar-coated them?

He himself says he doesn't blame Shinji. The fact that the humans blame Shinji is the truth, it's why he wants them to fix things.
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>>154242654
And JUNE-like means yaoi. So it's full on homo.
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>>154242706
Yes, in teory, but notice how nothing sexual happens between them
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>>154242702
He didn't react when he saw Rei naked either. He just sees Asuka as a sexual object.
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This conversation is pointless.
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>>154242676
You never said 2.0 was Asukapandering until 3.33 hit.
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>>154242752
He didn't know his body yet, rewatch the opening and see the subtitles. Evangelion is a journey throught adolescence
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>>154242752
>He just sees Asuka as a sexual object
Delusion. Kawoshin faggot confirmed.
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>>154242751
>>154242702
Shinji blushing at Kaworu is sexual.
The EoE scene was sexual.

Shinji is bisexual. No one is bothered by this but shippers.
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>>154242821
>>154242752
Stop responding to the Reifag.
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>>154242821
You're a shipper yourself. The sexual symbolism in eoe was just for aesthetic purposes and Shinji fantasizes about boobs during that scene.
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>>154242801
Says it herself, "side dish/masturbation aid". Obviously he cares for her, but uses her as a sexual and emotional crutch. Also Asuka "won" or whatever, so why you have to deny it?
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>>154242715
>Shinji asked Kaworu for answers, would you prefer he sugar-coated them?
He should have told the truth instead of lying by omission. Saying that he doesn't blame Shinji while also lying only make him the bad guy.

Also:
Shinji already knows everyone blames him, but he has no clue what a "Lilin" is. The point here is that Kaworu is presenting himself as a savior, against everyone else who hates him.

This scenario was written for Kaworu fans, and they demand seeing Shinji brought down.
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>>154242764
It is. He's talking to himself, being doing that for ages.
I guess he just can't accept the homo in himself so he applies all his mental gymnastics to no homo a canon.
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>>154242785
I've always said it. The only ones who didn't, were the same Asukafags who deny they're being pandered to at all times. I said it during 2.22, I said it during 3.33, I'm saying it now because it's an undeniable fact.
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>>154242877
He fantasizes about how he wants to go back to the bosom of his mother and having boobs himself.
He's a tranny.
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>>154242886
He did tell Shinji the truth.

>but he has no clue what a "Lilin" is.
So? What does that have to do with anything?
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>>154242900
I'm a newfag and i'm responding to you, fujos.
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>>154242949
I wish you would stop responding, you aren't going to convince him. And I'd like to talk about something else for a change.
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>>154242949
If you want me to take you seriously don't bring up shinji tranny memes
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>>154242962
Go away you fudanshi, obsessed with dicks.
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>>154243001
You're not worthy of a serious response.
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>>154242993
Like what?
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>>154242949
Wrong, in the unused drafts it's what got him off
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What is it with people's obsession over Kaworu anyway? He's kind of a boring character. Are those just girls lasting over bishounen?
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>>154242962
>>154243019
I'm now convinced these two are the same person. Just a Reifag replying to himself.
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>>154242952
>He did tell Shinji the truth.

He lied by omission.

>So? What does that have to do with anything?
See above. One of the many evil things Kaworu did. All it requires for evil to succeed, is for good men to do nothing. Kaworu is not a good man for what he did. He is evil for letting evil things happen.

Kaworu lies by omission when he only tells Shinji that everyone blames him, but refuses to explain to him why. If Kaworu says he doesn't blame Shinji, then why doesn't Kaworu explain why he doesn't blame him?

You're dodging the fats:
Shinji already knows everyone blames him, but he has no clue what a "Lilin" is. The point here is that Kaworu is presenting himself as a savior, against everyone else who hates him.

This scenario was written for Kaworu fans, and they demand seeing Shinji brought down.
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>>154243051
Because you can't make up one.
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>>154243063
Everyone is obsessed with him, even the haters. They can't help but bring him up every thread.

It's actually kind of scary.
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>>154242949
>have one frame over all the series and EoE where crazed Shinji sees boobs oh himself projecting his obsession with boobs (comfort)
>two decades of fujoshi spamming tranny memes
That's where Anno made a mistake.
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>Asukafags screaming that Shinji is hetero while talking about homo shit with Kaworufags while Kaworufags blame Reifags for doing that while actual Reifags are having calm, nice evangelion discussions

The state of Evangelion threads. Pure Kaworufans.
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>>154243139
Anno always wanted Shinji to be a girl
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>>154243063
He's not boring, he was raised in a doomsday cult with people who treated him as Space Jesus. Very interesting to someone who has an imagination.
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>>154243063
Kaworufags spamming, and the rest correcting them.
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>>154243164
But reifags are actually using headcanon and fanwank trying to convince everyone of their bullshit while insulting both fans and characters. They are the true scum of the Earth.
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>>154243164
>>154243104
It's a Reifag (you) who is spamming the Shinji is hetero meme though.
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>>154243139
Right, so you admit he wasn't seeing boobs sexually but as a source of comfort.
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>>154243126
Kaworu poster, I have noticed you and how you're a kind person. Stay cool.
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>>154243183
Y-yui-kun!!
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>>154243226
Well, yeah, boobs symbolise comfort. What is it you wish for? Asuka's titties. They symbolize comfort. One more final. Shinji's crying, his face buried between Asuka's titties. Shinji found comfort. End.
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>>154243059
I want to talk about why Fuyutsuki says Unit 01 has now obtained both the fruit of life and knowledge during the scene it becomes a tree of life in EOE, when it should already have both thanks to Unit 01 going beserk and eating the S2 angel that belonged to Zureul.
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>>154243215
asukafag*
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>>154243215
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>>154243061
No, that's a different scene.
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>>154243211
>But reifags are actually using headcanon and fanwank trying to convince everyone of their bullshit while insulting both fans and characters. They are the true scum of the Earth.

Nope, that'd be Kaworu and Asukafags.

>>154243285
So Asuka is a symbol of oedipal motherly regression then? You're both retarded by the way, cancer-shippers both missing the point of Evangelion.
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>>154243292
I always wondered why they're called:
first/second/fifth childREN?
Why not use the correct form?
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>>154243285
Those weren't Asuka's boobs.
It says on the picture layout it's a woman's boobs.

It's Shinji's desire to return to the womb, but you're just trolling.
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>>154243285
Those aren't Asuka's titties, they're just some woman's according to the storyboard. Also Asuka won, good for her!! Why can't you be happy with that.
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>>154243307
>boobs imagery, face close up
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>>154243303
>>154243215
kaworufag C-C-C-COMBO BTFO'd
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>>154243351
Because Nips can't into english
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>>154243292
I have no diddly darn idea!
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>>154243340
>motherly regression
Oh, how retarded can you get, reifag?
Comfort as acceptance and emotional support which Asuka shows through her caress. And what does it have to do with shipping? Christ, you're such a fucking idiot, kill yourself, human garbage
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>>154242491
>there are no spare parts
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>>154243391
Alright
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>>154243391
I visually cringed
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>>154243391
You already admitted to being a Reifag, you aren't convincing anyone.
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>>154243411
Did I hit a NERV? So just as Shinji thinks of going into the womb again and dying, he thinks of mummy Asuka?
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>>154243389
He gets off when the lance pierces him, Rei says "What do you wish for?" he wants to return to the womb.
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>>154243398
B-but it's the most basic form.
It always bugged me when they said it in the show.
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>>154243418
That's right. There's an "Ayanami Series" of individual clones now. Regardless of the lore there's two Rei's now, which break the one.
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>>154243418
Man, the directing in 3.33 was ON POINT
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>>154243478
>He gets off when the lance pierces him
You can't prove it, it's all in your head.
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>>154243474
The only thing you hit was your head during childhood it seems
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Anyone want to talk about this? No? Alright, I'll try posting it next thread.
>>154243292
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>>154243532
I don't particularly care for what you asuka and kaworufags discuss. I just found it funny.
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>>154243526
Naw its in the stowyboards
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>>154243562
Because the spear was the key that activated both "fruits of life". The spear actually referenced as a key to both Lilith and Adam's "powers".
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>>154243624
Then post them.
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>>154243655
But Fuyutsuki implied Unit 01 was just now getting the fruit of life, not that it was being activated.
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>>154243657
I dont have them. I lost I guess :(
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To deep? I was anime with poor story and get a pass like this show gets
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>>154243519
That whole scene was fucking fantastic.
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>>154243707
I think, he implyed Eva01 is now getting "the power of both fruits of life". The only thing that changed/added was the spear.
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>>154243801
Sagisu's god-tier sound direction played a big part in it too
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>>154243801
Shitty 3DCG. Bad scene.
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>>154243760
Thank you for finally agreeing with me on Shinji's heterosexuality. Good night
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>>154243844
Go home /a/, you're drunk
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>>154243824
But it was stated in NGE that Unit 01 has the power of the s2 engine, and I thought that was the fruit of life.
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>>154243657
>>154243760
>>154243355
Are you guys talking about this page?
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>>154243866
You totally wreckd me
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>>154243889
It's shit, just like everything in 3.33 .
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>>154243903
Thanks, can anyone translate?
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>>154243903
>女性の胸
Random women's boobs confirmed. Desire to return to the womb.

But they're looking for the storyboards where Kaworu penetrates Shinji, it says that he's brought to ecstasy. And it's a few pages before that one.
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>>154243901
Maybe it was there but it was impossible to use until the key was implemented.
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>>154243924
A very good scene indeed.
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>>154243903
What it says?
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>>154243992
But Unit 02 became stronger with the s2 engine, did it not? Granted it's been while since I've seen the series.
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>>154244048
>02
?
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>>154243903
>Kaworu turning into Rei
>Yui talking to Shinji while he's imagining boobs
That's full blown het incest
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>>154244106
01, sorry.
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>>154244115
Kaworu is the one who made him like that in the first place. Rei can turn back only after Shinji is completely relaxed, and as he going into LCL he thinks of boobs (returning to the womb).
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>>154244115
It's a foursome between Shinji, Rei, Kaworu and Yui.
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Did the series and movie in two days, was good stuff, quite a few issues but the good stuff tips the scale quite a bit for me. Should I watch any more?

Also put this in wrong thread, pasting here:

So what the fuck was with everyone liking pretty boy anyway? He showed up for like one episode and shinji got all gay for him, then pulled this stunt because he didn't want to remove head.

Maybe I skipped an EP or something but we got no actual chance to like the guy. Why not make it a friend like suzuhara or something? My dose of suffering was severely lowered by the lack of attachment to angelboy.

You got to strangle a few redheads to make an omelette Anno.
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>>154244213
Don't be a crazy shipper, no one's denying it.
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>>154244213
Post the supposed page.
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>>154244245
>yfw Kaworu spearfucked Yui and Shinji at the same time
>while being in a "forbidden union" with Rei
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>>154244281
You don't have to like him, the point is Shinji liked him.
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>>154244281
Eh most of what I like about Kaworu is extrapolated in NGE2, in the show he has very little personal development.
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>>154244160
It did become stronger since it ate it after all, but it was impossible to reach the "god" level without the spear and when it was unlocked it gained the full power.
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>>154244331
SOMEONE STOP THIS SEX MACHINE
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>>154244115
She's a clone of his mother. By definition, it's incest. If anything, even beyond the fact that Yui was beautiful, he should be more attracted to Rei because of GSA.
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>>154244331
The supposed incest part really bothers me.
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>>154244397
Like, I would agree with this if it wasn't for the fact that Fuyutsuki implied the unit was just now obtaining it.

Is an S2 engine really a fruit of life? I think otherwise maybe Kaworu transferred it to him through the spear.
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I'm waiting for the right page.
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>>154244475
Yui x Shinji - Incest
Rei x Shinji - Incest
Kaworu x Shinji - Selfcest

Take your pic, nigga.
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>>154242305
>>154242066
So Anno confirms it himself and people still pretend Shinji is anything but bisexual. Crazy.
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>>154244580
>Kaworu x Shinji - Selfcest
>implying
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>>154244475
Technically Kaworu + Rei x Unit 01 + Yui = Shinji + all other humans
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