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I don't get this anime. Why is Gokuh going regular Super

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I don't get this anime.
Why is Gokuh going regular Super Saiyan when he has the blue one?
When Super Saiyan came around in Z, he stopped using Kaio-ken, and when SS2 came around he stopped using SS1. 3 was obviously different due to how much pressure it put on him.
So what's the deal here? They painted SSB as the new standard SS in that Freeza movie.
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>>154211205
It's explained that ssjblue isn't meant to be something that's turned on and off repeatedly like regular ssj can do. In the manga, Vegeta lost to Hit because he tried going blue again resulting in a significant decrease in power gained from that form.
As for kaioken, it's because using that one also harms the body for as many multipliers being used in return for the increase in power just like how ssj3 does but on a far worse ratio. For long term use it's more efficient to use ssj and after Cell Games using ssj for Goku is like him putting on new jordans at this point.
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>>154211532
I guess they just forgot that SS2 exists then, since he'd previously jump straight into that.
Just kinda confuses me that it's fine to use Kaio-Ken while in blue, but not okay when regular. Makes it seem like SSB is the more calm/controlled form, yet now they're saying it's more taxing?
Just seems like it's all fucked to me.
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>>154211758
Not taxing, it's that you're burning through energy that isn't instantly replenishable like with ssj when using blue.
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>>154211758
Yes the anime is a shit show, even in the anime in episode 37 or 38 after bowing to Hit he explains that SSB has "stamina issues"
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>>154211205
Because golden haired SSJ was a hallmark of the original dbz and it would displease the fans if thye were to completely abandon it
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>>154211205

Going Blue uses an incredible amount of stamina to transform. Going SSJ1 is far less taxing and easier to do, though it lacks perfect ki control.
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>expecting continuity
>in Dragonball
This is the franchise created by a guy who has legitimately forgotten that some of his characters existed
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>>154213115
some of it s characters is putting it mildly.He literally forgot a main character.
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>>154211205
The series has many continuity problems to begin with
>Gowasu and Zamasu being surprised by power of Goku when all the GoDs are previously mortals
>Zamasu being disgusted of mortals when his superiors are previous mortals
>Beerus and Champa being trained by whis and vados to be GoDs when cchildhood when its kind of hinted GoD is a position thats given to a really strong mortal
>beerus and champa being brothers implying they are some other worldly beings when latest posters show beings similar to them from U11 but they are given dominion over u7 and u6
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>>154213841
>Beerus and Champa being trained by whis and vados to be GoDs when cchildhood when its kind of hinted GoD is a position thats given to a really strong mortal
That could be possible if their father was a GoD too, he just wanted to keep the job in the family.

>>beerus and champa being brothers implying they are some other worldly beings when latest posters show beings similar to them from U11 but they are given dominion over u7 and u6
It was never stated that if you become GoD they will give you the universe were you came from.
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>>154213841
>you can't still be surprised by things you've already seen
>Zamasu isn't allowed to be disgusted by things, or to be illogical, Zamasu isn't allowed to ignore such a fact either, Zamasu is a perfect being with omniscience and perfect logic and common sense, Zamasu has to make sense
>Beerus and Champa's dad/mom couldn't have been a GoD themselves, Beerus and Champa couldn't have been born with unbelievable potential that just had to be brought by training
>Beerus and Champa couldn't have been some other wordly beings that were trained to be GoDs and given some universes that didn't have any proper mortals to take up to the role. Hell it even makes sense now, U7 was too shitty to get a proper GoD out of any of its mortals, so it was given to Beerus, and the exact same case for Champa
You're fucking retarded
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The opponents were so shit goku didn't need blue to destroy them. Remember, they are the lowest mortal level. If the opponent turned out to be stronger he would. Not a plot hole
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>>154211205
use the catalog you fucking retard
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>>154212922
Didn't they achieve perfect ki control when training to fight Cell?
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>>154211205
>Why is Gokuh going regular Super Saiyan when he has the blue one?

They always fight gradually to test their enemies, Goku points every fucking minutes how he wants to fight strong opponents and have fun, he almost never wants to power up inmediatly

>When Super Saiyan came around in Z, he stopped using Kaio-ken

No reason to use it, it drains way too much energy and exhausts your body too fast, remember he was only able to use it a few times against Vegeta, then could barely do shit for the rest of the match, SSJ1 is just better, more efficient, but SSJ1 and Kaioken couldn't be mixed because they'd destroy the user's body, so only option was just choose the best, which is SSJ

>and when SS2 came around he stopped using SS1. 3 was obviously different due to how much pressure it put on him.

Yeah 3 sucks, no reason to use it, and 2 was just a better version of 1, that's why it's used more

>So what's the deal here? They painted SSB as the new standard SS in that Freeza movie.

SSB is SSJ but in God mode, remember they are gods now, which is an excuse to make them be able to fight Gods(Beerus movie/saga) and other other-worldly opponents

It wouldn't make sense for Goku to fight as a regular saiyan against Gods or much more extremely strong fighters, which are supposed to be beyond that

Also DB is old as fuck, something new was needed

Also Toriyama is a hack, who gives a shit about what makes sense or not, power levels were bullshit ever since Namek saga
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>>154214707

SSJ still puts severe strain on the body. Goku's ROSAT training only had him build up extended tolerance for it. That presumably allowed him to actually train in that form rather than the limited time SSJ would normally allow.
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>>154215004
Dude...
The Kaioken doesn't drain fucking shit.
The problem with the technique was that it did a SHITLOAD of near fatal damage if you even SLIGHTLY miscalculated while using it.
Even using it correctly wrecks your shit.

The SSJ form was the functional equivalent of a 50x kaioken without your body fucking exploding.
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>>154215073
Isn't Blue a calm super saiyan mode?
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>>154215448

It's god ki super saiyan mode.
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>>154211758
ssj3 is more taxing in the short-term

Blue just uses more energy to turn on but Goku can fight better in it.
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