Dragon Ball Super

>This man is the only reason all the other universes still exist and have a chance of survival
Fixed that for you.

This Goku is Evil crap is the most contrived and forced drama in the whole story of Dragon Ball.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f3BPx2lt6E0

>It's gonna be a fucking battle royal
Looks like Universe 7 fighters that aren't Goku and Vegeta are gonna get shafted again

>>154205068
True. This guy's selfishness will cause the destruction of 11 universes..

>If you lose your universe is destroyed
>but killing isnt allowed

Okay?

mustache will lose

Cpt Aylium is our guy

>>154205300
It's pretty cruel if you think about it.

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>>154205300
How will this guy ever lose in that case?

>>154205495
ring out/killing people

Fat angel screencap where?

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SSB >>>>>>>> Toppo

>>154205068
Ok I have a question.
Saiyans get stronger every time they recover from near fatal wounds yeah?
So why don't Goku and Vegeta go to the lookout, best each other to near death, get dende to heal them, rinse and répète? Other than the fact it would make the show boring for them to become the strongest that way obviously, why don't they do this?

Will Super go past End of Z soon? all this other shit is completely pointless since we know their universe will survive and nobody will die

>>154205117
>Implying Zeno wouldn't have gotten distracted by something and forgotten completely

>>154205265
Four other universes were exempt from the tournament, so that would mean the destruction of 7 universes

>>154205695
They don't get Zenkai boosts anymore

>>154205695

Because normal training is more efficient since they still get mini boosts from non-lethal fighting anyway.

>>154205698
hopefully this is the last arc before passing EoZ
but this is Super so you never know

>>154205701
You realize that Zeno was going to wipe out all but a seldom few universes (the ones exempt from entering) anyway, and through this tournament is giving one of them a chance to survive? Thus goku literally potentially saved his universe by reminding him?

>>154205695
They actually have a maximum power limit, and they need to train to elevate it. In the Zamasu fight Vegeta literally tried to get a zenkai boost mid-fight but it didn't worked at all.

>>154205791
Fair enough
>>154205752
Why? Just written out or whatever?

>>154205695
Being killed while not having any reason to retaliate against who killed you probably brings no power boosts at all

>SSJ Goku is enough to play with a giant Bergamo
>Blue Kaioken necessary to win the beam clash
Toeifags will defend this

where to watch stream

>>154205922
there's a gorillion streams on youtube

>>154205961
i need subs tho
i don't speak moon

>>154205914
>"I'm a retard who didn't understand the fight"

>>154205865
Zenkai boosts for the protagonists have been basically written out since the Android Saga of the original manga with no explanation.

The Super manga recently explicitly explained that after a certain point the body gets used to it and doesn't gain anymore boosts from recovering from near death.

>>154205824

If that were true then Trunks world would have been deleted years ago.

It's more likely that goku accelerated the timescale, if anything

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>>154205865
>why
I never really understood this, if Goku and Vegeta can't get more Zenkai boost why Black still can get them?

>>154205824
And you realize that Gowasu and Zamasu, who are from one of those universes, went a thousand years into the future and everything was still there? Zeno wasn't getting around to it any time soon.

>>154205989
Some have countdowns for english subs.

>>154205914
It's almost like Bergamo was getting more powerful the more Goku hit him. Crazy!

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How can U7 be the second-weakest when it's already clearly established that they beat U6?
>Toei in charge of continuity

>>154206106
definitely doesn't make sense, since he's just using goku's body. if the body can't get zenkai boosts, he shouldn't be able too either. it's definitely a plothole to keep black ahead of them

>>154206106
>I never really understood this, if Goku and Vegeta can't get more Zenkai boost why Black still can get them?

Black's boosts aren't really standard Zenkai boosts, they happen due to Future Goku's body lining up better with his mind when the cells regenerate.

Reminder that Zamasu and Vegito still shit on everyone by a massive powergap except Zeno and Daishinkan and MAYBE GoD/Angels

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Anybody getting a feeling that this series is pure marketing? No lore, no meaning, no story. OG dragonball had constructed arcs that were mini adventures. Even DBZ with its ridiculous power difference still had impact in its arcs. Vegeta finding goku and goku realizing his origins, killing frieza and saiyans getting justice, android sagas were shallow but it was still dramatic arcs about gohan and future trunks, buu saga was about vegeta coming full circle.

Meanwhile in super we are 82 episodes in by next saturday and we barely know much about beerus and whis. Zeno and the gods are just about god structures with obscure OP powers. Only the future trunks saga, which barely did much do anything other then bring future trunks full circle if that.

Zeno? "Xeno"verse? I'm watching new episodes and at this point I just see it as marketing for new character DLC's, new movesets, instead of standalone show.

>>154206117
That was before the second Zeno made a new timeline possible.

>>154206157
It's averaging all the universes' mortals, numbnuts.

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>>154206198

Here's the relevant image.

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>tfw what could've been

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>>154206251
>no lore

>>154206157
this is just spam now

>>154206106
Are you retarded? The chapter that page is from fucking explains why that is the case.

>>154206256
Except that the Grand Priest said he'd thought there were too many universes for a long time, so if he's not lying then the second Zeno made no difference in that regard.

>>154206372
Maybe doing it so soon was the second's judgement. Zeno got bored earlier.

ZEN-OH SAMA ;_;

>>154206400
So you're saying it's Goku's fault for not leaving the other Zeno in the future where he belonged?

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hey funsexydragonball are you still here? are you going to finish drawing this and post the finish product on tumblr? I know your the one who drew this from this >>154202967 I know you lurk in the threads time to time.

>>154205749
Goku's going to win the tournament and then use the super dragon balls to wish back the destroyed universes.

>>154206315
>no golden kaioken god cell
disgusting

>>154206315
I would love to see Freiza brought in to fight, and cell

Would be a nice change of pace

>>154206631
He's going to use the Super Dragon Ball's to revive King Kai. Who gives a fuck about the other universes.

>I am evil? AWESOME
Fuck you, Goku.

>wolf penetrator
l-lewd!

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A fucking battle royal?

Are you fucking kidding me?

17 and 18 gonna freak!

I wanna see more of this beauty Godfu too.

>>154206703
This would be too good
>Cell looks at 17 and 18
>Cell: "Ah, now there's a meal I haven't had in a long time."
>17: "Grrr... Goku why would you bring this monster back to life after all the Hell he's brought us?!"
>Goku: "I figured since it's been along time and we need someone strong to help out we could get him."
>Cell: "17... 18... Oh and I didn't forget you Gohan, this was all in the past and besides, I've already got my perfect form. I hear Frieza has a 'golden' form of some sorts, his cells are in me soooo..."
>Piccolo: "Golden Cell... Sounds like a lame excuse to put you on par with the others to me."

>>154206815
>17 and 18 gonna freak!
This. 17&18, Piccolo and Gohan and Krillin and Roshi are gonna rape.

>>154205667
Pretty much all the universes are SSJ1 and at most SSJ3 level

No flying? I actually kind of like that. Maybe we'll get a bit more fun choreography in the fights instead of just flying and beam spam

>>154207302
I do kind of like that most enemies cap off at Super Saiyan 2 on average. Which makes it a bit more annoying that Goku and Vegeta keep getting new Super Saiyan forms. What we seen the only enemies that are Super Saiyan 3 and greater in strength are Hit, ayy lmao, and the gods of destruction.

>>154207307
still got flying,only inside the ring

>>154207217
>implying everyone won't team up to annihilate evil U7 team

>>154207518
Thing is it's not all of universe 7. It's just Goku. Yes I know Goku making the tournament gave one University Edge to live, but that's not why Goku reminded Zeno to throw it. He just wanted a good fight, even though beerus told him six different ways how dangerous Zeno is. Goku doesn't care who he puts in danger to get a good fight. We've seen in the past, hell we see it even now. We just heard that all universes who lose will be destroyed and Goku doesn't care at all. His response was basically 1v1 me faggots if you're mad about it.

>>154207672
>His response was basically 1v1 me faggots if you're mad about it.
KEK that why he is evil

Where's the 720p torrent?

Is 1080p upscaled?

Thank God. This thread is safe from the cancerous anime vs manga shit. I hate mangafags so much. They constantly start shit and ruin every thread

>>154205068
Shit. That was GOOD. How did they manage to surprise me so much, also I love what they'r doing with Goku. Hype.

Why no flying tho? I guess it's to give fighters like Kamesennin a chance, but meh. Doesn't sound right

>>154205068
It's incredible how much better DBS got. Fucking hype.

>>154205068
>evil
Goku is actually chaotic good.

>>154206157
just kys

>>154207217
>no flying
>you can throw people out of ring
>64 fighters
>56 of them are all going to gang up on U7 for goku talking shit
>weakest universe had fighters that could atleast brawl a ssj gohan and majin buu for a bit

Roshi and krillin are gonna get thrown the fuck out in the first 10 seconds. Also how tf are they gonna anime 64 fighters throwing punches and kicks in one arena? This arc is going to be a shit ton of training buildup and the actual tournament will last 3 episodes tops. 1 to see all the weakasses get thrown out arena, 2 to see lesser fights like vegeta gohan and buu, and the last brawl probably gonna be aay vs goku since toppo is gonna get curbstomped by goku based on the 82 preview. U6 is going to get destroyed.

>Git gud
>1v1 me

No universe can handle the bants

>>154207845
I think its only for flying back if you are outside the ring, as then a ring out would be very hard to do. Think like the battle between Magetta and Vegeta.

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>>154207302
>fem Broly
>just SSJ3 level

>>154207876
It's not just the animation although the animation is more consistent. It's also the writing. This Arc has way more stakes than the previous ones did. What's more it has actual set up this time. And now they're blatantly calling Goku on things that we've seen in the past. Because Goku, like he or not can get pretty terrible when he's looking for a good fight. And now the narrative is addressing it. I'm not preparing myself to get a good message out of it or for Goku to even develop out of it. In all honesty they'll probably just use their reset button to put things back to normal. But it is better now that we can see the author's calling out some actual character traits rather than just talking about power levels

>>154207845
from the picture is looked like it meant flying outside of the ring, since the void would be outside of the ring

>>154205068
I just realized that since it's obvious that Goku and crew are going to win in some way or another, universe 6 is going to be obliterated. That's means Champa is going to die. Would be some good character development in Beerus and maybe knock some realism into Goku's head (hopefully also via Beerus)

>>154208033
More like SSJ2 level.

>>154208084
Beerus was worried about himself and wanted Goku to win

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I fucking love how Goku just said "Hey everyone else! Fucking come at me!" That smug bastard

>>154208084
Can't they flee to U7?

I wanted it 2v2 fuck whoever wrote it this way. They can't even give Toppo an original punchlin

>>154207994
>U9 is the weakest on average therefore their fighters are the weakest

Stop it. Just because the average power of U9 is the lowest doesn't mean U9 is suddenly not a threat. Everyone present are their universes exceptions. Unless you want to sell me that Goku is some scrub that'll get knocked out when presented with any of the other universes. Everyone here is an anomaly.

>>154208002
Oh. Makes sense thanks

>>154208163
New episode Vados said to Champa that it would be disrespectful to ignore the whim of Zeno. So no. Vados would probably rat u6 out if they tried it

>>154207396
well, the kame-sennin won't be flying anywhere, at least.

Was that a Rurouni Kenshin reference in the end?

He literally went a WoW Villain "LET THEM COME" at the other universes. What a flag.

>>154208206
So don't tell the angel slut

Oh boy, i can't wait for this arc with Gokou asking for one of those cube so he can fight the best warriors of the universes who aren't participating in this shit.

>>154206703
I agree aswell. Seems like a missed opportunity to me. Just imagine how badass it would be if the team had F. Trunks, Cell and Frieza.

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>OP is about Goku being unsatisfied with his fights and wanting to break through all limits, reaching even the king of the gods
>ED is about Goku being surrounded by angels and demons and being uncertain of where he stands
>"So I'm evil, huh?"

POETRY.

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>tfw captain ayy lmao is actually the strongest
Thank fucking god

Toppo will get btfo next episode it seems.

>>154208391
>captain

>>154208176
>it's a mortal level = power level post
>even though this was directly contradicted in this very episode when bergamo says that while his universe is the lowest mortal level that goku's mortal level must be even worse

>>154207985

'Good' in the context of the alignment chart is defined by a respect for life and generally a philosophically utilitarian concept of greater happiness.

I'd say Dragon Ball and Dragon Ball Z Goku was Chaotic Good, but this whole 'I want a good fight even if it costs the lives of several universes worth of people' is going to accrue a lot of 'Evil' points since it's a blatant disrespect for life.
A Chaotic Good character would decide peoples lives are more important than his stupid tournament.

I'd put current Goku at Chaotic Neutral.

>>154208452
Newfag

>>154206631
What stops Zen-oh from destroying the universes again?

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>>154207307
>Maybe we'll get a bit more fun choreography in the fights
Don't count on it.

So um , what happens if they just wish for invulnerability or some other bullshit power from the dragon before the fight ? Any universe with dragon balls can pull some kind of fuckery.

>that kenshin reference from Toppo

>>154205824
It's basically a lot like what happened to Saitama after the meteor, where he still caused a lot of destruction and was blamed for what happened, even though destruction was going to happen anyway. People are just going to be scared and angry and need someone to target, and Goku is the prime target.

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>>154208389
A furry is the one that tried to save the multiverse for everyone.

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Yo.

Someone in the last thread was hoping somebody would edit the creases out of this picture, So OVER ONE HOUR in photoshop later I think it turned out pretty good.

Enjoy!

>>154208539
invulnerability doesn't make you immune from FORCE PUSH attacks

>>154205068
Reckless stupidity is the same as evil. Motherfucker, I hope the fact he doomed an incalculable number of lives hits him like a Japanese truck.

>>154208539
Are they allowed to leave? Kind of hard to wish for immortality when you're right there in Zeno's sight

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IT'S HAPPENING

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>>154206315
yeah, yeah I know he's filler, but it's not like "canon" means much in super and he's still a better pit then android 17

>>154204853
"professiona" wrestling

>>154208587
Haha, like Goku can even feel empathy for lives he was never involved in.

He's never going to take responsibility or even understand the idea of it.

>>154208539
how? Grand priest already has the dragon balls, if you can take them from him i think you pretty much already won the tournament

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I'd bang that plump angel

who do you think the first person to be eliminated at this batle royal?
exactly GOKU they will be gunning for him all at once thanks to that wolf guy

>>154208530
Muh Tracertaro fights

>>154208586

I wish for nobody to be able to move us without our will. Suddenly nobody from universe >?< can be moved from the arena.

>>154208593

Before the fights ? Its not like they are gonna start right there and then.

>Zamasu and Black unfused and Black somehow survived and off screen Black beat the fuck out of Goku and replaced him and went back to the past with Future Zeno

I've grown to hate every U7 contestant outside of Krillin, 17 and 18.

Is it bad that I really want to see one of the other Universes (that isn't U11 or U9) win and save the day and make everything right?

>>154208568
But it's not the same. One is somebody trying to save lives by reducing catastrophic damage to just a lot of damage. Goku isn't trying to do that. The fate of the universe was not Goku's intend for throwing that tournament. Goku's intent was the fight strong guys. Even before he knew what that meant for the universe is. Even now after he knows. Anybody have a problem with him can just fight him one-on-one. The Multiverse called him evil for this catastrophe and he basically responded with "git gud."

>>154208625
Really? He kinda looks like a turnip, but ok.

>>154208651
That is beyond my power

This whole arc is just to sell more Xenoverse 2 DLC.

>>154206184
>my headcanon said zenkais are only related to the body user, not the soul as well, so I can't be wrong, this must be a plothole

>>154208585
nice

>>154208672

Aww shit nigga.

Considering it's in the rules that you're not allowed to kill your opponent, the tactical universe should bring the frailest old guy they can find at use him to eliminate the strongest on another team by tactically getting him killed and having the other guy disqualified.

>>154208658
What's wrong with Piccolo and Tien?

>>154208653
explain super saiyan blue

>>154208613
He could if the people around him, his friends wife or son, understand this and call him out on it.

>>154208674
I though Xenoverse 2 DLC was only going to go up to Black, now in a couple of years wait for XV3 and this arc's DLC.

>>154208674
You mean 3.

>154208658
>this is the average autist fanfiction writing krillcuck

See, Goku's plan makes perfect sense. His long-term plan is to become strong enough to take on GoDs like Beerus, but before that he needs to get stronger against mortals. He's already the strongest mortal in U6+7, so the only way he'll get more challenging fights is by getting all the other universes ganging up on him. Afterwards he can wreck Beerus, wreck Whis, and blow Zeno-sama away.

Just as planned.

>>154208644
Yeah, you're probably right. In Daishinkan's demonstration Goku's avatar was flying.

There will probably be a plot point where Goku falls out but Kamehamas his way back in.
Now I'm glad that the "why dont they revive cell and freeza" faggots are dead.

This shit requires teamwork.

>>154208658
>hating Tien and Roshi
Kill yourself

>Goku gets ganged up by a bunch of fighters
>ITs with them out of bounds
>ITs back into the ring
Surely a move that will take out multiple fighters will be used, 80 people getting decent fights is unlikely.

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I need to give a big shout out to Big Bro Bergamo. He was gonna save everyone, every damn universe but Toei Goku had to fuck it up. I knew the nigga was too evil.

>>154208580
Dat booty

>>154208625
I plumb your mother

>>154206184
It's not like it contradicts any real established lore about zenkais.
Plus Toyo actually attempting to make sense of it is way more enjoyable than the Anime Hax Zenkai which was just retarded.

>>154208680
if it's related to the souls, why are saiyan bodies the ones that have it? moreover, shouldn't zamasu have had it before taking goku's body over, then? weak bait

>>154208707
But that's sacrificing one of your spots to take out only one fighter out of seventy enemies.

If he's frail he may be taken out by accident, and if they try to guard him until they can get him in the right position then the strongest fighter is going to know what to expect.

>>154208747
>>154208708
>liking Tien

I mean, there's nothing wrong with that... if you like talking to cardboard.

>Battle starts
>Team Goku all run to the edge
>At the edge they blast a huge kamehameha wave (Practiced) on the entire arena , eliminating 90% of the contestants
>Run and dodge everything for 48 minutes and catch some weaklings off guard.

Easy

>>154208708
Irrelevancy, even Krillin got some screentime and even though he's weak, I haven't grown to hate him like I do with Goku and Gohan. Krillin is pretty chill.

Those two have just become really detestable characters. With 17 I guess it's just because he hasn't been tarnished with being sidelined and designated jobber, he just hasn't been around at all to be tarnished like the others.

>>154208653
>Zamasu and Black unfused and Black used his Time Ring to fuck out of there quick and is going to enter the tournament as a member of a different universe
Please, I want his smugness back

>>154208707
or get a bunch of saibamen to blow themsleves up when they are punched.

>>154208721
Gohan pretty much did that already. Gohan isn't there because he wants to compete. He's there because if Universe 7 loses then his family it's fucked. Which really? Gokul just realized that if he loses then his universe gets eliminated and his thoughts didn't go to Chichi even once?

>>154208754
Bergamo is actually pretty likable. He didn't manipulate anyone, he was actually pretty reasonable.

>>154208782
Too bad that might kill some beta ningens.

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>>154208754
>B-but Goku wasnt allowed to hold back

He couldve kept feeding Bergamo energy slowly, more and more, then using Kaioken 10x until Gokus body broke.

Bergamo tried his best to save everyone.

>>154208729

Why doesn't he just ask Tenshinhan to teach him the technique to create duplicates of himself and then just fight himself.
That way he gets an equal fight and nobody gets erased. Unless one of the duplicates wins and then we get a The Prestige thing going on.

>>154205989
Just get a crunchyroll account, it's only $7 a month.

>>154208782
>At the edge they blast a huge kamehameha wave (Practiced) on the entire arena , eliminating 90% of the contestants
What happens if some of the stronger fighters go ahead and try to counter or nullify that blast, like Toppo to that blast Buu deflected?

>>154208776
Being a Tienfag is suffering.

>>154208823

Nobody but Universe 7 will risk bringing weaklings after what Goku displayed.

>>154208823
They will use a push blast , not a kill blast dummy

>>154208828
Why didnt they gave him the drug?

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Dark Goku theories is back on the menu, boys!!

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>>154206251

>Anybody getting a feeling that this series is pure marketing?

Does fecal matter run from your mouth when you spout this shit? Or is there any contrived laughter upon each time you type out a sentence? Dragon Ball, has always been about marketing. It entirely relied on marketing during the ten years of its popularity in the 80's and 90's

>No lore, no meaning, no story. OG dragonball had constructed arcs that were mini adventures.

Lol no it didn't. More of the shit Toriyama came up with was usually done at the time he was drawing the damn thing. He came up with stuff on a whim constantly. Take a look at the Android arc, in an interview, he said he originally meant for #19 and #20 to be the main villains, then his editor said he didn't like a fat and old guy to be the villains, so he made #17 and #18 then his editor told him he didn't want two brats to be it, then he came up with 1st form Cell, then his editor said that shouldn't he have more forms? And then he came up with the idea of him absorbing Android 18 and 17.

Lore constantly changes in Dragon Ball. Vegeta was not a prince until it was announced in the Namek saga, he was just an elite warrior and the planet Vegeta was named after him because he was the strongest.

>it was still dramatic arcs about gohan and future trunks

How was it dramatic for Gohan? He was out of it until the very end at the Cell Games.

>we barely know much about beerus and whis.

As much as we did for Dr. Gero or Freeza. All we knew about Freeza is that he was the strongest in the universe, owned an evil empire, and also had a hatred/fear for the Saiyans. Literally that's it. There was no background information about his race outside that they can transform, we never see how his empire worked or what their endgame motives are.

Even more so with Dr. Gero. His reason was because his Manlet leader was defeated by Goku. For some odd reason that made him obsess over Goku despite the fact that Dr. Gero was not IN Dragon Ball.

>>154208729
>goku
>longterm plan

is this real Donald Duck Mummy?

>>154208828
Bergamo is the hero we need

>>154208828
he clearly hit his limit, the blast should have been absorbed.

>>154208739
Cell is a wash but Frieza could be convinced to work on a team. He doesn't want the universe gone, he just wants to be king of the molehill. So he would be willing to work with another if it meant that he gets to stick around and take over whatever is left

>battle royale
I was expecting a u6 arc style team faceoff with occasional showing of results from other matches

this will be... interesting at least

>>154208876
Super Saiyan to SSB Kaioken 10x is a huge leap. Goku didnt give him enough power.

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How can he not understand the implications of his dad's actions? He's still cheering him up like nothing happened.

Gohan is fucking retarded.

>>154208828
The faggot could have faked it anyway and still had a normal tournament. Its bad writing that keeps me up at night when you like battles but want to win just as much.

Toei needs to stop.

>>154208754
>>154208828
I want to pet Bergamo and call him a good boy.

>>154208867
Bergamot was a hero, but not the hero we need right now. He isn't able to handle the unstoppable menace that is Goku.

We must now look to U11, Smugpup, Brolyna and the other participants.

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That growing up effect was so fucking lazy, not even an effect they just resized the wolf picture like using Photoshop, you only need to make some zooming camera to make it look more credible.

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>every universe will hunt you down
I dont give a fuck bring it on. The stronger the better
ALPHA

>>154208907
He can't think straight with that gi.

>>154208601
he's dead

>>154208859

What for ? He probably was already fully charged.

>>154208893
but he was pretty close to deflecting the kamehameha

Fuck yeah. Battle royale. I've been hoping for a team-based tournament. And the other members can be useful too in this way.

One match doesn't seem a lot unless it will span several episodes.

>>154208879
>could be convinced to work on a team
Not with Goku and Vegeta and other Saiyan monket

>>154208859
Goku was the drug.

>>154208907
>cheer for your dad as he does his best or all of existence will be erased
-zeno

>>154208808
Gohan thinks this is their chance against impeding doom from foreign forces like it always has been, what he doesnt know is that that doom was brought up by Goku simply because he was bored.

>>154208907
>throw fight
>Zeno blows up all the universes

Great idea. Better question is why didn't Jewhook throw in another Devil Fruit.

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>>154208919
Bergamo doesn't have time for your pets. He has a multiverse to save.

Bergamo gave Goku all the tools needed to fake a realistic looking loss. Goku just had to play along and he didn't.

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>>154208939
Remember your place

>>154208767
>if it's related to the souls, why are saiyan bodies the ones that have it?
Do you know how to read, anon? I said related to bodies and souls, not only souls or only bodies. Saiyan body can be what triggers the effect but is the spirit what is improved. Goku's spirit/soul/whatever has been improved to much with zenkais, Zamasu's not

I-Is Goku, Cell?

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>>154208931

>>154206315
>no dabura or cell
gtfo with this stupid shit

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amazing episode desu

>>154208991
He's still a good boy who needs pets.

One match with no killing? This will truly be worse than the Black arc.

>>154208944
>The Gi was causing Goku and Gohan to be more retarded all along!
>THE TRUE VILLAIN OF THE SERIES IS THE TURTLE GI
>ROSHI'S MASTER PLAN
>ROSHI WAS THE BIG BAD ALL ALONG

>>154208176
The Kaioshin of that universe explicitly said the three dogs were the strongest fighters from their universe, so they don't exactly stand much of a chance after the results of this exhibition.

>>154208907
>If we lose, my family will be killed
>If dad didn't remind Zeno, we could have been killed at any moment
>If dad holds back, ALL universes will be destroyed
Are YOU fucking retarded?

>>154208991
>Bergamo gave Goku all the tools needed to fake a realistic looking loss.
You think the Grand Priest wouldn't call bullshit, especially since he was the one announcing, "UNIVERSES WILL BE BLOWN UP" rather than Zeno?

>>154205914
Goku wanted to leave enough hope in Bergamo's eyes, just so he can crush them.

>>154208990

Did you miss the previous episode ? The weak universes were gonna be destroyed anyway. By chance this tournament gives one of them a chance to survive. Technically Goku saves a universe this way.

>>154208625
>that onion kai
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YFunZpREWw0

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>>154209007
Stop it.

>>154208939
Vegeta > goku
>b-but muh kaiokek
not fucking canon

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>a void
>people can't fly

Guys.

>>154208863
The more anons enlightened as you the better, thank you for these facts.

Alright time for RPG tactics!

>Goku
Ace, heavy hitter, will probably 1v1 enemy team's ace
>Vegeta
2nd strongest same role as Goku
>Gohan
Hopefully the trump card, but probably just the job card
>Buu
Tank and distraction
>Krilin
Destructo disk spam
>Tien
Solar flair spam
>Roshi
Put Brolly in a jar
>17
Tag team with 18, focus on the enemy team healers
>18
Tag team with 17, focus on healers
>Piccolo
Absorb Dendei, heal team. (Might not need to absorb dendei, no clue if he can use Kami's healing powers)

I think they could last long enough with just this. They need a strategist. Maybe Piccolo can be their strategist.

>>154208998

no, cell is goku (+others)

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>>154209021
I'd rather pet Lavender. He reminds me of Garmr.

>Everyone in the episode says Goku has a low ningen level.


There you go powerlevelfags,

ningen level != powerlevels

>>154208990
Yeah that, that was brought up at the last second to think of ANOTHER reason why Goku was not going to throw the fight, you think Goku was going to lose on purpose anyway? The writers just realized not "forcing" Goku to give his all made him look evil so they just throw it in.

>>154208893
Feel God man to know that this is officially canon

>>154209081
>>Vegeta
>2nd strongest
Chose one

>>154208754

>Beerus calling him underhanded when he legitimately wanted to save everyone

?????

>>154209089
Lavender is more likely to bite you tho, unless you're into that

>>154208945
>he's dead
literally every single member of universe 7 has died at least once, some have died 4 times

>you either die a hero or see yourself become the villian

Goku the hero died at the end of the Cell Saga, what we have here is a full blown villian that needs to be took down

>>154209049
Hes not omniscient or something.

>>154209081
Piccolo should try blinding opponents with the CLOTHES BEAM

Solar Flare is weak to sunglasses

But nobody expects a bright pink BAD MAN shirt coming at their face

>>154205117
>>This man is the only reason all the other universes still exist and have a chance of survival
wew lad, nice headcanon

>Furry asked for universes to not be destroyed, this wish was granted if he won. Goku went out of his way to destroy that wish because he wanted to fight.
Stop with your headcanon, he's x2 the only reason the universes are going to be fucked.

>b-but grand priest said he couldn't hold back
He can still lose easily without holding back. He went out of his way here.

>B-but universes would be destroyed anyone
All Grand Priest said was that Zeno kept saying that there was too many universes to keep track of, and he was going to take care of it eventually. Could've happened in another billion years, Goku made it happen in a few days.

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>>154209081
>no clue if he can use Kami's healing powers
No

>>154209106
Toei is shit

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>>154205117
Future Zeno gave the idea to Present Zeno that there are too many universes, if Goku had not brought him to the present, Zeno would not have thought of destroying the universe 7, proof of it is that in the future of Trunks the universe still exists. So unless you can prove that Zeno being alone anyway would have thought to destroy the universe 7, Goku is guilty of all the destruction.

>>154209103
I chose Vegeta because he's 2nd strongest

>>154209048
Why does every Super episode feels like the writers sat down, came up with a basic plot, started looking for holes and spend half the script justifying them?

>>154209106
He knows Goku isn't going to throw and Furry is pathetic.

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>>154209126
The bad boys are the most fun to turn into your lovers.

You can watch him bite everyone else while he cuddles with you.

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>>154209154
>2nd strongest

>>154209164
To test if viewers have ADD

Clearly, you do

>>154209149
I honestly hope every universe teams up to fight Goku. Too bad they aren't allowed to kill him.

>>154209149

>Future Zeno gave the idea to Present Zeno

Gonna need the source on that, must've a missed.

>>154209134
Buu never died?

>>154209164
Because Toei can't write for shit

>>154209141
Where exactly in your page does it state that he can't use Kami's magic?

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>Universes, trillions of lives, will get wiped out because I wanna flex my muscles
>This could include my wife, sons, granddaughter
>Do I care?
>No
Why is Goku being such a goddamn dick?

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>>154209021
will you let him teach you his "technique"?

GOKU is going to KILL the hero of justice TOPPO

>>154209195
If Goku can't die, then I want Goku to get kicked in his balls

>>154209195
Too bad Goku would like that. The guy just wants a good fight will he can be pushed to his limit. To the detriment of everyone else unfortunately

>>154209031
Piccolo and his clothes beam will save us all!

>>154209134
and? They are alive now and can fight, he isn't

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>>154206251

>I'm watching new episodes and at this point I just see it as marketing for new character DLC's, new movesets, instead of standalone show.

>Implying Dragon Ball was never about marketing merchandise in the first place

There's a good reason why GT only had 64 episodes before being cancelled. The toys and merchandise weren't sell like they did with Dragon Ball Z. These animes need funding, and Bandai has always been the backbone of its funding in the 1980's/90's. Much like it was for many anime series out there (gundam ect).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v-6_4Fd-C9w

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>>154207985
more like pic related

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>i'm ready to impregnate them with saiyan cum

>>154209219
>my wife, sons, granddaughter
All of whom are disappointments

Has there been any other battle royale/team fight type in DB? I can't remember

>>154209219

why are there so many speedwatchers that cant into content

zeno was going to wipe all those universes anyway and goku has now made it so one of said poo universes gets to live instead of just the 4 that have a ningen level over 7

>>154209219
You make it sound like it is something new, remember when he let Vegeta go because he just wanted to fight him again?

>>154209134

What about Baba?
She could have rode out Buu blowing up the planet by going to the Other World.

On that note, Devilman would probably be a legitimate better pick for the U7 team than Roshi.

>>154209189
Look man until you can provide concrete evidence that Vegeta is strongest you're going to have to deal with the fact that canonically he's 2nd strongest. Obviously this is amongst the 10 U7 candidates not everyone we know.

>>154209174
Furry wasn't pathetic

>>154205068
>Wasn't buying into the "Goku is evil" hype at first.
>Then he fucks everything up because lol I don't like losing.
Goku is an asshole, fuck. I can't even root for the guy anymore, even if he's able to convince Zeno to not destroy the other universes.

>>154209283
Why? I mean his son I can understand even though to any other parent his son is a roaring success. But his wife just cooks his food which is all he wants out of her. And his other son isn't even old enough to be called a disappointment yet

>>154209219
Christ, my dick becomes diamonds the instant I see an image from the doujin.

>>154209230
Gimme the artist.

>>154208549
?

>>154208319
>Just imagine how badass it would be if the team had F. Trunks, Cell and Frieza.
Stop it, what are you doing to my penis?

>>154209283
he's literally fellating his oldest son.

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>>154209254
Super's going on for years

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Reminder Toei Goku a shit

>>154209219
Because he's a ningen

>>154207994
80 fighters*

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>>154208601

> but it's not like "canon" means much in super

The reason why Gregory was in Dragon Ball Super is because he was in Dragon Ball Kai. They wanted to keep with consistency of the show. Also he can't appear out of fucking nowhere, again, he's not in Dragon Ball Kai, this takes place right AFTER Dragon Ball Kai.

Pedro get your poor ridden smelly spic ass out of here.

>>154209300
Read the thread. We know that Goku save that least one universe and throwing this tournament. But that's not why Goku through the tournament. He wasn't looking to save anyone

>>154209216
I can't find it, but I'm 100% sure there's a page stating he can't make Dragon Balls. So, logically, he wouldn't be able to use any of Kami's other magic.

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Reminder that Goku's name is "Gokou"
Beerus is "Beers"
Buu is "Boo"
Mr. Satan real name is "Mark"
17 and 18 names are "Lapis" and "Lazuli"
and nobody knows Turtle Hermit's name, same about his sister

>>154208539
I'm not sure Zeno woud like that neeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

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>>154209188
>The bad boys are the most fun to turn into your lovers.
>>154209230
Stop it you two... This is a blue board, not a lewd board.

>>154209219

I don't think goku believes he can even lose at this point

>>154209361
Toei Goku is ded, we got Shueisha Goku which seems pretty alright so far.

I haven't watched a lot of dbs since ZAMASU but what did goku do to piss off the other universes?

>>154208990
>>154209048
>Goku can't pretend that he's fightning at full power

You're both retarded. Even if you invent a shitty excuse for that, the whole point is that Goku's intention was selfish from the start. It wasn't known to anyone that Zeno was going to destroy the weak universes, that was known only after they stated the rules. Before that, Goku ignored all advice and went off to talk to him because he simply cares about fightning, regardless of the fact that he's putting everyone at risk when he does that, and Gohan, being his son, should be able to see that. He even offers him a fist-bump, for fuck's sake.

>>154206703
This ep basically explains why that wont work
Teamwork
Of the existing group, everyone except 17 and 18 have experience fighting alongside Goku
17 and 18 fight in tandem
Hell, Krillin, Goku, Gohan, Tien, and Piccolo all faced off against Vegeta. Even if Vegeta's not used to working WITH them, he knows their fighting style well enough.

The biggest outlier in the group dynamic is Buu, because he does what he wants when Satan's not giving him orders.

If Frieza or Cell was on the team, first off they couldn't be trusted NOT to kill anyone. In particular Frieza doesn't have that kind of restraint (Cell does, until he's losing)

My predictions?

We'll get a lot of 17 & 18 fighting together, a lot of Krillin, Roshi, and Tien fighting together, Goku and Vegeta fighting together, and then Buu and Piccolo soloing it (Buu absorbing the fuck out of people, and Piccolo going giant namek)
Then once most of the roster is eliminated, it'll be Goku, Vegeta, Buu, and Gohan (Piccolo is gonna take a dive for Gohan and you all know it)
Technically though, I wonder...
if Buu absorbs people, will they count as out, or not? Probably not. Which means Buu could absorb people who have been knocked out to prevent them from being tossed out of the ring, and then spit them out later once they've healed.

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>Toppo will job to SSB Goku

>>154209375
Yea that's what I figured.

They should get a healer instead of Roshi. Roshi ain't useful.

>>154209307
Devilman's only useful move is an instakill. Not very good for this tourney. I wanna see Roshi mafuba some ningens out of bounds.

>>154209136
>Whis teaches Vegeta to fight
>Whis must have learned fighting skills from somewhere
>Whis' dad is the Grand Priest and most likely taught Whis

You are completely retarded if you don't think the GP won't know.

SPIKE DIES!

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>FROM MY POINT OF VIEW, THE GODS ARE WEAKLINGS

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>>154208601
WEAKER

THAN

YAMCHA

>>154209396
Ningen you need to watch since episode 77

>>154209374

his intent doesnt fucking matter you retard

the result is that he has saved one full universe

what kind of fucktarded logic are you trying to use

>>154209245
Which makes no sense. Zeno wants the greatest fights ever, why limit every person from being able to use their greatest killing technique?
Bad writing

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Some anons were right about the heroes justice league from universe 11 since the release of the new opening, I'm impressed.

>>154209398
>"I was trying, honest!"
>You didn't use Kaioken
>All universes die now

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>>154209422
Those are some weird leaps in logic. The Grand Priest has never actually seen Goku fight.

Huh, seems the fattie pink Kaioshin is female (the one with the E.T. God).

>>154209219
Nah, Zeno wanted Goku to flex his muscles.
There's a reason the rule was "If Bergamo wins, you're all safe, but if Goku doesn't give it his all, everyone dies"
Cause they knew Goku would throw the match otherwise.
And they knew he WOULD win if forced to go all out.

The issue though, they've gotta have TIME to put the team together. That means we'll probably get some training eps.

>>154209343
>aku soku zan
It's the catchphrase of one of the characters

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>>154208861
Goku broke down because of Beerus. Before that, he was somewhat behind his next rivals/goals but not that far. After having to take power from his friends to hold his own against Beerus (and not that much), Goku swore he'd get the cat's head himself and started training for that. He'd make him regret sparing the Earth.

Goku's obsession kept going strong during Champ's tournament, because he lost to Frost's trick (who Vegeta defeated) and would have lost to Hit. At that point, Goku switched rivals for Hit, pic related.

It got worse with Zamasu/Black. He saw that Gods could use his body better than him so he tried thinking what could help him improve. Black fought the whole world, so Goku wanted to do the same. However, he had no way to fight the whole world and they're weaker than him anyway. He didn't plan on Zeno destroying the world, but when he saw that, he made his new plan.

First he brought back the second Zeno to make sure the Zenos would seek fun and company. Then he asked Whis to erase Trunks and Mai (instead of sending them to another timeline) so nobody else but him and Vegeta would know about the second Zeno and what Goku did.

The future Zeno was far more destructive and nihilistic than the present one, so Goku knew there'd be a universe destruction rule. This way, he'd fight literally everyone. He tried to raise Gohan's spirit so he'd go get eliminated quickly, letting the strong fighters to Goku.

He purposely talked shit to everyone so people would want his head. He'll defeat them all and his last kill will be Beerus. Beerus actually feels something is wrong but can't do shit because if he erases Goku, he'll be erased in the tournament.

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>>154209361
>we angels must remain neutral
why is this smooth talking and all the other angels so scary like shit.

>>154209300
And then Zeno decided he would change his mind if Goku lost that first match and would spare everyone.
This had no affect on Goku whatsoever.

>>154209452
It was kinda obvious but thanks.

>>154209493

BECAUSE ZENO SAID IF GOKU DOESNT GO ALL OUT THAT EVERY UNIVERSE WILL BE WIPED THE FUCK OUT

HOW FUCKING DUMB CAN U BE

>>154209428
>Don't try it.

>>154209319
He really has become hateable

it feels dirty

We grew up watching him from a child

Is this how a parent of a serial killer feels when they find out what they have done

I love you Goku but I cannot forgive you

>>154205824 >>154209374 >>154209300
Bergamo's speech is like Otto von Bismarck and Goku is the France

>>154209378
>gokou
stop reading there

How many eps do you guys speculate Super will have?

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The QUALITY will stop for the tournament, right?

>>154209300
Oh fuck off, that's just because of poor writing that doesn't want to make Goku look evil. Zeno would have forgotten about destroying them like he forgot about the tournament.

Anyone else lost all excitement for this when they said it was just gonna be one match? I hope they fucking change it to regular 1 universe vs 1 universe brackets next episode or I'm rioting.

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>>154209230
Gimme dat sauce.

>>154209524
Nope.

>>154209415
Roshi is probably gonna be useful here. They can't fly, so someone who is used to hand-to-hand combat is going to be great.

>>154209396
Remember back in the universe six arc when Zeno like the tournament and that he wanted to throw another one with more universes. Well Goku decided to remind him of it. Even though Beerus told Goku to leave Zeno alone since his nature makes his every action potentially apocalyptic to entire universes. But Goku just refused to let it die at the tournament Throne anyway and now the tournament rules is that anyone who loses will have their entire universe destroyed and the gods and everyone who lives in it along with it. And Goku seems that show no remorse at all, he just wants a good fight

>>154209375
Not really
Piccolo can use the mafuba and the reverse mafuba
He can do a lot of stuff that Kami can.
Healing is probably something he can't do simply because his ki is offensive, not defensive.

>>154209524
>80 fighters on screen in a battle royal
You tell me

>>154209522
250

>>154209524
Dude it's Toei? What do you expect?

>>154209529
We have had like 12 1v1 tournaments in the DB Franchise, shut the fuck up

>>154209529

It wont end with this Royal Rumble.

I have the feeling this will end up in a draw.

With U6,U7,U11 and 1 more Universes, moving on to the semifinals.

>>154205151
>You can't have a good fight if you don't win the whole thing.
By that logic Vegeta is also getting shafted, retard.
They'll have their moments.

>>154209538
They can fly. They can't fly outside of the ring.

>>154209469
>Goku can't lower his power level

When he was a SSJ he trained to be able to control his power, if he uses Kaioken at a low power level then he wouldn't really get much benefits

Come on, the guy could've played it off, but he just wanted to fight

>>154208391

I really love his design.

>>154209550
>Piccolo can use the mafuba and the reverse mafuba
Mafuba isn't Kami-exclusive. It was created by Mutaito, anyone can learn it.

>He can do a lot of stuff that Kami can.
He can do NOTHING that only Kami can, because Piccolo isn't a Dragon Clan-type Namekian, he's a warrior-type.

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>>154209524
>>154209551
Can't wait desu

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>>154205068
>the safe universes are ones GP already controls
>Goku knows the angels are the real threat
>GoD system is just in place to take care of planets that can fight the gods like Planet Vegeta
>Zeno is a cuck and will do as asked and Goku knows this, recent ep proved this when dogboy asked for universal clemency but GP cucked him by making Goku go full out
>This is leading to a multiverse war arc where the non GP approved unis and angels+top 4 unis go to war
>The Evil Goku meme is a work and Goku is playing the angels in order to save all 12 universes

>>154209522
Hopefully over 9000

>>154209538
Roshi is purely for comic relief because all of the fighters will be super saiyan level minimum.

>>154209309
>canonically he's 2nd strongest.
If you count beerus then yes but vegeta >goku

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>>154209524
>ah yes here come our fighters now
>can somebody please zoom in?
>Whaddya mean its already in full zoom?

>>154209508
It's called jobbing, anon, Goku can put up a good fight and still let the furry win.

>>154209254
>merch covered with a bunch of girls and a perverted old man
What product is this suppose to be?

>>154209587
Nigger are you retarded
ZENO SAW GOKU FIGHT HIT
HE KNOWS HOW STRONG GOKU IS

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>>154209433

>Olibu got beat by Yamcha in less then a second
>Olibu was only slightly weaker then Pikkon
>Pikkon defeated Super Perfect Cell with one kick
>Dabura was on the same level as Cell was
>SSJ2 Gohan had trouble with Dabura

YAMCHA STRONGER THEN PRE-MYSTIC GOHAN CONFIRMED!

Do Pedro's even put this into equation when they think of Pikkon?

>>154209538
They can't fly outside of the ring so there can be ring outs. They can still fly above the ring. The opening shows Goku fighting Ayy Lmao in the air. Same with Vegeta and that fat blob.

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Battle Royal? Leave it to me!

>>154209615
Prove it.

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The more you think about it, the worse this arc actually is.

Zeno originally did this because he wanted to see badass fights. Now, the four strongest universes don't have to fight because they won't be destroyed, nobody can be killed because of reasons.

Why not have them fight, but their universes aren't on the line? This fucking storyline is horrible.

>>154209439
Because had Goku not run his mouth the universes would've had literally thousands of years left on their clocks rather than a few days. Furthermore Goku doesn't give a fuck that quadrillions of lives are going to be deleted from existence in a couple of days rather than years. Which is why Goku is the asshole in this situation. He doesn't give a fick who he endangers as long as he gets a fight out of it

>Piccolo uses the dragon balls to wish to revive Piccolo Daimao
>Forcefully absorbs him
>Becomes super-perfect Nameless Namakian and becomes Buu-level

Why doesn't Piccolo do this?

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>>154209605
9000 weeks is 173 years.

We'll all be dead by then.

Well except me, because my husbando Champa will grant me eternal life.

>>154209669
>strongest
Least shit
Dumbass, pay attention before you complain

>>154209361
in battle of gods whis was said to be the strongest fighter ever

in the universe 6 tournament he got a sister and became less interesting

in the future trunks arc we find out that he will never even fight

in the current arc we find out that he's just one of 12 people who look exactly like him


he went from being one of the most interesting characters of all of dragon ball to being a fruit loop that likes food

>>154209658
He went to rosat. Gonna demolish black like in the anime which makes him automatically above goku.
>muh kaiokek
Not canon

>>154209669
>Hit will never impress Zenchan senpai with his assasination skills

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>>154209529
I expect some sort of twist that extends the arc and will lengthen the tournament. Like a draw between 2 or more teams.

>>154209575
Well, how about I just knock you flat on you're ass you troll, that sound any better to you? Just name the time and the place and I'll be there.

>>154209493
>pretends to be retarded as to claim the show has bad writing.
I mean it does, but this is straight forward as fuck and people need to stop playing into the forced "goku is evil" meme.
Zeno (grand priest) is the real evil one here.

>>154209681
how do we know that zeno had forgotten about destroying the universes, and not just the tournament? did he say that he forgot about destroying the universes?