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I went into this expecting an antihero like Guts not such an

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I went into this expecting an antihero like Guts not such an extremel moralfag knight templar whose biggest ambition is helping every fucking villager in the planet.
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>implying you are dissapointed
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>>154030369
Back to >>>/v/
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The Knights Templar were accused, tried and executed for satanism and treason.
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>>154030369
You will learn why people like Kenshiro the least and why Raoh is both the fan favourite and creator's favourite character.
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+1 Akagi post
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>>154030590
Akagi is shit and literally a mary sue. Kenshiro at least has constant bad shit happen to him, Akagi is literally dindu nuffin deviantart OC and even the author realizes this which is why Akagi is being thrown into the trash to be replaced with the actual human bean Kaiji.
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>>154030369
>I went into this expecting an antihero like Guts

Why would you ever think that?

Hokuto Shinken has no equal.
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>>154030618
>Hokuto Shinken has no equal.
Hokuto Shinken is invincible*

https://u.nya.is/muoxcu.webm
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>>154030369
https://a.doko.moe/xoegcx.mp3
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Not OP but, if I've watched the old anime is there anything else worth watching?
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>>154030369
Roses are Red
Violets are Blue
Omae wa mou
Shindeiru
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>>154030659
Did you watch HnK2 or only HnK1?
HnK2 is generally agreed to be inferior but still worth a watch.
You should read the last 4 volumes of the manga as well after watching HnK2 since the anime didn't adapt them.

After that watch the movies, they're really good.
https://www.nyaa.se/?page=view&tid=884962

Start with the original movie from the 80s.
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>>154030688
Gotta love the ending of the last movie (which is a prequel).

https://u.nya.is/xoqpdl.webm
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>>154030369
>extremel moralfag knight templar whose biggest ambition is helping
Hokuto no Ken is awesome
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>>154030369
Kenshiro was purposely designed to be a moral guy because he was supposed to contrast the lawless/moral-less post-apocalypse setting. More that than, it justifies and makes satisfying him killing everyone every other faggot in the show with the strongest technique. If he were any less of a moral person, him being nearly unbeatable would have less impact wrt how desperate the situation already was.
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>>154030659
Ten no Haoh

Anime/Manga from Raoh's perspective of what he was doing from roughly the same time point as Kenshiro's story started all the way to right before their reunion in Mamiya's village.
Try hunting down the [AC] group release for the anime as it's the best encode available. Otherwise find DVD ISOs instead.
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>>154030688
Cool, I haven't watched HnK2, I suppose that's next
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>>154030734
Remember one thing.

You have a brother
And you have a brother
And you have a sister
EVERYONE HAS A SIBLING
SIBLINGS FOR EVERYONE
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>>154030734
I assume the middle one is LotGH but what the fuck is that art style? Where is it from?
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>>154030773
Yeah it's probably from a movie, I've only ever seen series don't know where I found that pic
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Tough boy was a great OP:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mdju-W_ZAnw

Souther was my favorite villain for some reason.
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>>154030659
"Fist of the Blue Sky" is worth a read if you like Mafia/crime boss stories with a touch of history and martial arts (with a bit of an industrial revolution theme).

Read it though. The animation was "eh".
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>>154030810
I see, still I'd like to know the source of that since the art style bothers me immensely.

Anyhow you can find HnK2 DVDs on AnimeBytes and AsianDVDClub, there are no good encodes of it unfortunately. The only encode is on BakaBT and it's the shitty one encoded in DivX made from a literal VHS source that looks like utter shit.
ADC and AB have the 25th anniversary digitally remastered DVDs that are absolutely beautiful, pic related.

>>154030859
I really like Tough Boy, but I still prefer Ai wo Torimodose simply due to how classic it is.
The movie version of Yuria Eien Ni is also pretty good.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JI_AuSvg8c8
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>>154030884
I tried but I didn't like it very much. Tone is way different.
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>>154030859
>Souther was my favorite villain for some reason.
Being the strongest Nanto user and having Banjo Ginga as his VA certainly must be part of the appeal.
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>>154030969
>Tone is way different.
Because Buronson didn't write it and it shows.

Everything that Hara and Horie made ever since Buronson left the dream team has been very meh in my eyes.
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>>154030970
>Banjo Ginga
Ah, yes, now I remember. Also how Raoh was afraid of him.
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>>154030859
I read the manga so I never saw the OP.
This is the greatest OP I have ever seen.
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>>154030997
>Also how Raoh was afraid of him.
Raoh wasn't as much afraid of him as he was weary and unsure whether they should fight or not.
Ten no Haoh actually expanded on the Raoh vs Souther thing, you should give it a watch.
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>>154031067
>>154031067
Iirc, Raoh didn't want to take him on because he couldn't figure out how his body worked. HnS had zero effect on Souther.

But I haven't watch that.
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>>154031022
That's actually an AMV not a real OP image, at least not in full
OP1 (Shin Arc): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4bCyf1AwOJ8
OP1 Ver 2 (Post Shin): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cH6qJ86b6_g
OP2 (Last Nanto General Arc): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3Hiu92LRYc
OP3 (HnK2): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=feYxfnCd7QA
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>>154031114
They basically meet for the first time in TnH and neither can actually damage the other so they agree to mutually fuck off.
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>>154031150
Souther couldn't hit Raoh or something? That's surprising considering he kicked Ken's shit on their first encounter.
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>>154031131
I really liked OP2 tbqh

It hyped up the Ken vs. Raoh fight, I didn't like it that much desu, I still think the Shin fight was the peak of the series, but I really liked Souther as well
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>>154031178
He could, but he couldn't land any actually serious attack + Raoh abused healing/buffing himself with his own pressure points.
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>he can't into virtue and justice
Fuck off savage
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>>154031184
Ken vs Raoh second fight is not about being epic, but about the melodrama.
If you want "epic" you still have their first fight in Mamiya's village.
HnK has a fucking perfect ending with how it DIDN'T go full on DBZ with the final battle and instead opted for a shorter and more subdued fight that was more about the feelings of the characters rather than who da stronkest.
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>>154031258
Symptons of the Mary Sue:
-Not realistic; their actions and decisions simply aren't founded in any reasonable human behaviour, and make unbelieveable and shitty characters because of it, e.g. Akagi
I can go on :^)
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>>154031184
>I still think the Shin fight was the peak of the series
How? Their fight is the shortest "major" fight in the series and Shin literally got cucked to death.
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Jagi was great husbando
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>>154031346
Literally the only worthless and irrelevant Hokuto aniki
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Is this sub real?
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>>154031486
It's from a fansub but the gist is the same, yeah. It's also like that in the manga.
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Even Ken's strength got ridiculous in the movie:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dTDy8XVdRSk
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>>154031577
Raoh does literally the same thing in first episode of Ten no Haoh.
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Were the sudden scale changes stylistic exaggeration or just bad art?
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>>154031664
The former.
The series has been stylistically exaggerated since the beginning, or did Zeed not tick you off?
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>>154031714
>The series has been stylistically exaggerated

Was it?
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>>154031741
Do you have brain damage? Did you not read the entirety of my post? Did you not read the manga/watch the anime?
Zeed
Mr. Heart
The Colonel
Devil fucking Rebirth
All in the fucking beginning parts of the manga, all greatly exaggerated in size for styllistic purpose.
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>>154031780
It could just be that the artist was unable to draw it properly. Some angles are hard and action shows tend to be very varied with that.
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Raoh'd
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>>154031848
Hara was the best mangaka of his time in terms of art anon, you sound underage.
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Gotta say though I actually preferred the anime color palette for Raoh with the black hair and everyman tanned skin.
Making him an ubermensch aryan space marine actually takes away from his unique appeal.
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>>154031911
I'm 28. I used to draw. It's hard. You actually do practice certain shots like profiles and slightly facing to the side because those look really good in one-shots but a lot of action shots are incredibly hard. You need a reference and lots of practice.

It's actually what's missing with a lot of newer animators like >>154031067. The angle is incredibly flat.
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>>154032185
Ten no Haoh and modern digital animation is not only made by talentless hacks for animations because all the actually good animators go work in marketing or movies where the actual money is, but also because modern animation is done on a shoestring budget.

Point still is that Hara was legitimately the best mangaka of his time. His eyesight didn't get fucked until way later where he developed keratoconus so you get shit like pic related in his modern art.
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>>154032262
woah

Does it make everything look wider than it is?
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>>154032302
Basically, yeah.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keratoconus
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>>154030452
Came in here to make sure this was posted. Anon did not disappoint me.
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>>154030369
>whose biggest ambition is helping every fucking villager in the planet
>helping every fucking villager in the planet
He fails often in that regard. He usually arrives AFTER the bad guy has killed many villagers
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I saw some HnK porn years ago. Ken was doing his atatatata attack but with his penis. Anybody have that?
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>>154032806
>Anybody have that?
yeah but after I accidentally broke my laptop screen with it I stopped using it.
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>>154030369
And what is wrong with that?
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>>154032262
I legitimately like stick lady, you made me want to read this series.
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>>154033523
She doesn't look like that in the series, this is something Hara drew for the 25th or 30th anniversary of the series couple years back.
When he drew the series he was in his prime.
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I blame Rei for my homosexuality
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>>154030369
The joke about kenshiro is that he's a much worse person than any "edgy" character. Batman is a moralfag, he doesnt kill anyone.
Kenshiro actively goes arround looking for reasons to maim and kill people.
Thats why he always waits it out until they harm villagers. If he was a moralfag he'd try to prevent shit from happening.
He just waits until someone does someting bad like threaten a child or kill a grandma and then murders them in the most violent way possible.
He's completely deranged when you look at it from a neutral perspective.
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>>154030859
Souther was great even if he was a dip. Also my favorite villain, and his final fight with Ken is my third favorite in the series.

I LOVED MY MASTER BUT HE TRICKED ME INTO KILLING HIM SO I BURIED MY EMOTIONS, LOVE IS HORRIBLE AND NOBODY SHOULD LOVE, ANYONE EVER. HOW CAN YOU LOVE PEOPLE WHEN IT CAN ONLY BRING YOU SUFFERING?
"For fuck's sake, Souther. It's not all bad."
OH GOD I'VE WASTED MY LIFE.
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>>154033691
t. Yuda
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>>154033699
Actually, you're just a spineless coward without any remarkable convictions
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You know,i realised only now
That it is where Fallout took his leather armor design
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>>154033706
Judea*

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>>154030369
well, least Kenshiro never took it up the ass
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>>154033711
I fucking love hokuto no ken.
But calling kenshiro a "moralfag", a term coined for people like batman is way off the mark.
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>>154033724
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>>154030859
>Souther was my favorite villain for some reason.
I always liked him for the sheer amount of bollocks that he spoke, and the point around the confrontation with him is one of my favourite parts of the manga(I tended to enjoy it most when there was a lot going on and a fair bit of momentum)
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>>154033756
Go back to /co/, seriously.
You're imposing your own meaning to the term, at best it can be said to mean someone who abides by a somewhat benevolent morality.
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>>154033613
Oh damn, I thought it was one of those HnK Gaiden titles.
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>>154031987
I prefer blond Raoh, but tend to like him better when he's not practically an albino.
Your reasoning's pretty interesting, though.
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>>154034006
Tanned skin is more masculine and strong to the japanese
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>>154030734
Kaioh is a shitty shoe=horned villain

Everything in HnK2 feels like a forced attempt at a cash grab, where the creator did the best he could but was obviously made to go beyond where he wanted to end it, with Raoh's death.
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in a world where there isnt any kind of law, there's hokuto shinken
anyone who thinks he's a moralfag for killing objectively terrible people who cause nothing but havoc are retarded
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I can't remember what happened to the hot bitch post time-skip.
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>>154034954
I haven't read/watched HnK2 portion yet but she literally never appeared again after Toki left her village and went to fight Raoh for the last time.
I don't even know why since she was thousand times the woman that Yuria was.
I'd rather die for Mamiya like Rei than fuck literal princess in another castle Yuria.
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>>154034142
To be fair the background part about Land of Asura was fine. It's only the bullshit with everyone spawning long lost siblings that was bad.
And Kaioh's only purpose was to basically give us more story about Raoh since he's just a vessel for telling us about Raoh's past and giving Kenshiro a new boss fight while at it.
Also pottery between his and Raoh's deaths, with Raoh going to heaven and Kaioh going to hell.
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>>154034006
>Your reasoning's pretty interesting, though.
Think about it, making him a "generic" blonde aryan ubermensch actually made him less unique because blonde aryan ubermensch is a trope done to death. That's why I actually will never accept Hara's official coloring for Raoh and will always prefer the tanned everyman look of the anime. In fact anime's director agreed with me on that since apparently that was also their reasoning for making Raoh a black haired tanned dude that spends a lot of time in the sun matching with his armies.
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>>154030369
Kenshiro is a white knight (sir Galahad). Raoh is templar.
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>>154033737
But he got fingered.
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>>154036057
Not as har as Rei.
:^)
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>>154034954
>>154035940
She cameos early on in HnK2, along with Airi. She's there when Falco kills her village's elder
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>>154036057
>>154036098
I dunno, Rei just got one finger, whereas Ken got 4, and one of those fingers stuck in 4 times.
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>>154036021
The blond hair always made him look younger to me, which I sort of liked, as it seemed to give his relationship with Ken a closer, more rivalry-like vibe.
The first thing of Fist of the North Star I saw was the 1986 movie which when i first saw it, I thought Raoh was about 40 or something
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>>154036233
Rei got fingered twice.
First time so hard that he exploded within 3 days.
Second time so hard that his hair went white and he was stuck in perpetual agony until he exploded.
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>>154036267
Raoh is supposed to be about 10 years older than Ken. He was a teenager when they left the land of Asura when Ken was a literal infant.
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For the first half of the manga I thought that Bat was a midget and not a kid.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vSrNarBTLeU
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>>154030452
] thread
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>>154033718
Isn't Mad Max older than that?
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>>154037461
It is, he's an underage retard.
Mad Max was the inspiration for both.
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>>154031258
Generally people in real life who aren't edgelords will side with moralfags because they have a stake in the world.
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>>154030726
> Extremely moral person
> Explodes everything into piles of assorted organs
One of these things is not like the other.
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>>154037678
In a world where prison and rehabilitation is not a thing, what better alternative is there to deal with wicked/out of control people? Not to mention everyone he kills has killed/raped/robbed/beaten several people each.
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>>154030369
Congratulations, you discovered the zeitgeist of 80's fighting shounen MC's before Joseph Joestar.
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>>154037678
They violated the NAP using the initiation of force and were retaliated against in accords to UPB.
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>>154037745
There were like two active prisons in the series.
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>>154037800
He is still the Zeitgeist since Jojo drew large amounts of inspiration from HnK. All Joseph was was a hot blooded hero which it's not like he invented that.
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>>154037980
>All Joseph was was a hot blooded hero
No you ignorant boop, he's the dude who won his fights by being smarter than his enemies rather than by by being stronger or more righteous.
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>>154037960
Villainy prison was abandoned, only devil rebirth was trapped inside while the rest of the inmates such as Jackal escaped. Cassandra was a prison run by Raoh purely to imprison all martial artists and keep any potential challengers to his kingdom locked away, and to seal their martial arts away so none of the enemy martial arts masters could improve their fists. Ken did not have access to a reliable prison.

Besides everyone he kills pretty much has committed crimes worthy of the death penalty.
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>>154038040
>No you ignorant boop, he's the dude who won his fights by being smarter than his enemies rather than by by being stronger or more righteous.
He didn't invent that either tho
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>>154038173
I'd like to hear which shounen manga protagonists were doing it before him then.
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>>154038193
Lupin
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>>154038240
>Lupin
>shounen
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>>154038275
Just because an arbitrary demographic label is attached to him you think that means he wasn't a big inspiration? Fine, Kouji Kabuto.
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>>154038428
>Just because an arbitrary demographic label is attached to him you think that means he wasn't a big inspiration?
The point is that even if you ignore the kaito genre, Lupin would be seinen not shounen.
Mazinger is definitely a better example since it's actual shounen.
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>>154038428
I've never seen Mazinger Z, I'll have to look this up.
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>>154038554
Kouji Kabuto is a mecha pilot and while he often does muscle through some situations he often depends on trickery, wiles, and skill to defeat his enemies. He may pilot the greatest in universe mecha but it requires a crafty pilot to defeat the enemy.

He also is an insatiable horn dog and a wild idiot.
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Rei is best girl.
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>>154038554

Watch Shin Mazinger then.
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read jojo you fucking fags
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>>154040368
>>>/mlp/
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>>154030688
>>154030659

so should I watch it instead of reading it? How well is it adapted?

The only thing that's making me want to watch the anime over reading it is the soundtrack
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>>154040403
The anime is a perfect 1:1 adaptation aside from some filler in Shin arc and a couple of recap episodes after each arc later on.
The voice acting, direction and soundtrack absolutely MAKE this series which is why the anime is so worth watching.
After watching HnK1 and HnK2 you just jump straight into last 4 volumes of the manga which weren't adapted in the anime due to lack of big villain and thus no TV appeal.

You get HnK1 from here:
https://bakabt.me/torrent/176907/hokuto-no-ken-fist-of-the-north-star-tipota

And for HnK2 you need AnimeBytes or AsianDVDClub account for good quality since it has no encode other than shitty old VHS one with shit yellow fansubs and as such the remastered DVDs with official subs from those private trackers are preferable.
I can link them but you won't be able to access it without account.
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>>154040403
You want to watch the anime, trust me on that.
Manga has shit scans for the most part (basically everything between volumes 7 and ~24 is shitcans) and the only group that has access to good scans is sitting on them doing nothing with them.

Also
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8ET31df91Y
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>>154040536
thanks a lot for the info, looking into them
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>>154041776
Do it anon, it's a great series.
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>>154040403
If you understand french, watch the french adaptation. It was a gem for humour and comedy
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>>154030369

>extremel moralfag knight templar

I dunno man Mr.Ken"I'm going to hit you with a move that causes your spine to blow out your ass while it keeps you alive so you could slowly die"shiro seems like kind of an asshole, but he's the asshole the world needs.
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I read a couple volumes of the manga and it was extremely boring. Does it get better?
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>>154046019
It's always good but it gets much more epic in scale, like every shonen ever so if that's what you want, keep reading, if you don't like any of it so far, just stop
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Who is you favorite HNK character? Mine is Rei.
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>>154046019
It's great from the start and you just have shit taste.
With that said, it gets substantially better after Shin arc and Rei's introductory arc with the Fang clan.
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