>this guy is supposed to be a NEET I've been a NEET for

>>153948685
how didn't you kys yourself yet?

>>153948685
Faker?

>>153948883
>living the dream
>killing yourself
I don't follow.

>>153948685
How is he not a NEET?

>He didn't watch the first episode of S1

I'm literally Kazuma.

>>153948685
>implying post 2010 anime will ever depict NEETs like they did in NHK

>>153948685
LN Neets are supposed to make actual neets feel better about themselves, not force them to commit suicide by making every LN protagonsit like Satou.

>>153949485
Satou is dead, long live Satou.

>>153949926
You're isekai a shit.

>>153948912
YOU'RE NOT EVEN GOOD ENOUGH TO BE MY FAKE

He kinda looks like a young Rance.

>>153950006
At least the internet is fast here

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there's a difference between a hiki and a neet

being a neet just means you're a loser and a slacker. you can potentially be functional, but the right mix of laziness and/or bad luck keeps you from getting anywhere

being a hiki means you got fucking brain problems

kazuma is an "underachiever", not someone who is dysfunctional. he's bart simpson, not ralph wiggum

>>153950146
Kazuma is barely old enough to work part-time in Japan. He's neither a NEET nor an underachiever.

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>>153950146
>…It was rare for me who kept staying at home to go outside.
>In order to purchase a limited first release version of a popular online game, I got up early to queue up.
>Society addressed people like me as Hikikomori.

>>153948685
The problem is that NEET has become a buzzword, people like to use it even when they don't know the meaning, most people confuse it with a "lazy nerd"

>>153953692
Also
>"Nah, you came up with an excuse right on the spot, why are you able to handle this so perfectly? You seemed to be a capable guy, why were you a hikiNEET without any girls or friends? Why did you want to stay at home all day and be a hikiNEET?"
>"Not having a girl or friends isn't a bad thing. The value of a person cannot be measured by the number of friends or having a significant other. And don't call me a hikiNEET. Damn bitch. Don't combine hikikomori and NEET together, and I am just 16, too young to be a NEET by society's standard… There it is."

>>153948685
He was only staying at home and playing video games to forget about losing his childhood friend to another guy

>>153953992
Then he's just a broken hearted kid and not a NEET then.

>>153953568
He is old enough for them to show him drinkning alcohol on screen.
He did that, right? At least Aqua did.

>>153954102
Pretty much, the reason he gets called it is because of the amount of time he was taking and that he pretty much dropped out of school altogether

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>>153949519
I really miss him, damn.

>>153954124
That in the new world though and that place is medieval era. There are no age restrictions for drinking in medieval times.

>>153953992
So I s not a neet then?
Good news

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>>153950059

>>153948883
>kys
>kys yourself
A faggot and a retard.

>>153948685
NEET just means that you're " Not in Education, Employment, or Training". It doesn't require a specific personality or anything.

>>153954383
>It doesn't require a specific personality or anything.
Being a lazy ass for not working 8 hours a day isn't a personality?

>>153950146
>being a neet just means you're a loser and a slacker.
No it doesnt. The term LITERALLY is a fucking acronym. Neet doesnt mean that youre lazy or a slacker. People simply are too fucking retarded to use it properly. Its like noob. To the average retard noob = bad and neet = lazy, even though neither describing the respective term.

>>153954510
Unemployed people looking for a job are still NEETs. Has nothing to do with personality.

>>153954806
What about the ones that don't want to find one?

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>>153954510
>lazy ass
>for not working 8 hours a day
Its fucking hilarious that we consider this normal. Spending 8 hours a day doing something you hate. And thats us westerners. Now think about how mentally challenged Japanese people are. They work way more.

>>153954806
Exactly. The show doesnt even properly use the term NEET either. They basically said that he was a NEET while still being in high school, which simply doesnt work.

>>153954890
>Its fucking hilarious that we consider this normal
>Spending 8 hours a day doing something you hate
How about you find something you can come to terms with doing 6 hours a day?
I always thought it takes a virtue to find a job down your alley that would keep you fed and entertained.

>>153954890
What is this list showing?

And why is my country second from the bottom?

>>153954890
Only Aqua using "neet" for Kazuya in relation to our world.

>>153954957
The problem is that the vast majority of people doesnt even have the chance to figure out what they really like. Public education does a horrible job at preparing them for the life after school. People are supposed to be kids until 15, then they suddenly need to know what they want in life. Most of them simply settle for a job because they want to make money. Especially in Anglo countries they dont even have a choice. Who the fuck is supposed to pay for further college education? Good luck finding a 6hour job that pays the bills, though.

>>153955128
Average amount of hours worked per year. More evidence that the Germans arent actually working a lot, but when they do they do it efficiently which is why everybody thinks that they are the "hardest working".

>>153955166
Didnt he use that term to describe himself when he thought of his past? I recall something like that. Maybe that was LN/Manga exclusive.

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>>153955240
> Public education does a horrible job at preparing them for the life after school.
You can try working odd jobs while your parents are still willing to support you to try things out and gain experience.
I was doing that in uni and changed six workplaces from 18 to 22 y/o.
Granted your education would likely suffer, you'll be working odd hours, have broken sleep cycle, might hurt your health with manual labor etc.
>Good luck finding a 6hour job that pays the bills, though.
After four years of working shit places I did.
Nobody ask me how much I work each day as long as shit gets done.
They even allow me to work remotely most of the time.

>>153955435
Just be European and study until youre 30 working part time jobs. Thats basically what I am doing. Degree in Finance and Stats, degree in Informatics, now getting a Law degree while working part time in statistical analysis from home with no one even caring about my hours, I always receive full pay. Hilarious.

>>153955435
IT work?

Speaking of which, IT is a pretty good field for hikis. Get one that allows you to work from home, remote troubleshooting or sysadmin, enjoy fapping all day long so as long as you can focus the moment shit crops up.

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>>153955575
H-how come you k-know so much about me?

NEET STANDS FOR

NOT IN
EDUCATION
EMPLOYMENT OR
TRAINING

THATS IT

ree

>>153955609
Probably because I'm a newbie sysadmin and at some point last year I realised most of the shit I do here can be done from anywhere if they just would just allow remote access through a VPN.

So does Darkness actually develope a crush on Vanir or what? She seems to like him a lot.

>>153955532
>Be European
My Putin Overlord would be against that.
Also you folks are not appreciative of slavs joining in.
I found comfy place that don't require a degree.
Probably fucked if it shuts down though, employers are mostly retards about a degree here even if you have skills and experience.

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>wondering why self-insert fantasy for hikirats is unrealistic and patronizing to any real human bean

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>>153955876
I thought MC going hikki have something to do with cuckery as is revealed later in LN.
He's all whimsical when it comes to showing initiative towards girls too because of this.

>>153955240
>Didnt he use that term to describe himself when he thought of his past?
See >>153953692 >>153953848

>>153954325
I bet you don't even use ATM machines.

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>>153956010
not him but

>>153956039
You're pretty stupid.

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>>153956192
But why would I need cash?
I don't even remember last time I paid for something with it.

>>153954173
Except for Megumin, apparently

>>153956039
Automated Teller Machine Machine

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hikiNEET mass suicide when?
Kuzu no Honkai was the final push I needed, I'm ready to be freed from this mortal coil.

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>>153956423

>>153956453
I bet Miyazaki have a plan with his next movie.

>>153954124
Is that not allowed in Japan? I feel like anime does that a lot.

>>153955695
No sweetie, it's a lifestyle. You can be a wagie and a NEET if you adopt the NEET mindset and attitude. In contrast, the son of a billionaire who does nothing all day is technically a NEET, but we all know he's not a NEET NEET.

>>153956483
PIN Number.
If you can get your hands on it, you might want to read the short story "The redundant man who was redundant". Not anime/mange.

>>153956544
Explain further.

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>>153956544
>sweetie
>adopt mindset and attitude=you're X
>when you don't meet actual X requirement

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>>153956506
The hero we need.
Hopefully he'll convince my fellow hikiNEETs to travel beyond and we can make the journey together.

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>>153956709
>yfw you invested so much money and time in your health
>that a suicide looks like too much of a waste now
Nonsense, we all die alone, do it.

>>153954772
Exactly it's become a damn buzzword

>>153954772
>>153956779
Fun fact: the meaning of words change over time. People dictate the dictionary, not the other way around.

>>153956709
You're ready for >>>/jp/

>>153954890
Wageslave here, i spend 10 hours a day in my job, only half the time i'm working, i even shitpost from there sometimes, and money is a very good motivation, so is not that bad

>>153956970
I find it hard to do my own stuff when I'm on the clock.
Like I know no job is coming anytime soon and nobody's looking what I'm doing, but it doesn't feel right to slack off all the way.
Satisfaction level would be lower than if I do that after work.
Am I sick?

>>153957098
It depends on the working enviroment, in my case the job is based on cycles, so sometimes i have a full month of doing almost jackshit but i still need to be there and the next month get the beating of my life, and at the end of the day most people is also doing their own shit while they finish the job too, expect to hear some music, someone chatting while also finishing some excel shit, but i wouldn't recomend it if your boss is a cunt

>>153957098
yeah something is wrong with you

>>153956914
The term neet isnt a word, its an acronym. You cant change the meaning of acronyms because they are usually pretty specific in regards to what they are talking about. If youre a high school student then the description "Not in Education [...]" simply doesnt apply to you since you clearly are.

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>>153957602
>boss is a cunt
Nothing of sorts, it's just even when I work remotely from home - I don't feel like enjoying my personal stuff until I feel the job is done for today.
I'll still procrastinate occasionally, but never enjoy it much.
I wonder who and when brainwashed it into me?

>>153948685
If you've been a NEET for 6 years you deserve to be insulted.

>>153958702
but u need work experience to get a job

and i dont want to go to an agency to work in a warehouse/retail/food. I need a proper job right away!

>>153958738
>need proper something right away!
And who owes you that?

>>153958738
Is this post-irony?
I realize it's ridiculousness but I do actually want to skip the shitty steps.

>>153958738
You've been searching for a "proper job" for 6 years? How the fuck are you living or are your parents seriously maintaining you?

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>not getting a scholarship for uni and becoming a semiNEET
Literally the best of both worlds.

>>153958702
>work is so super important guise
>95% of the world's population are doing it we can never have enough workers
I wonder who could be behind this post.

>>153958882
if you want to skip the shitty steps then make sure you do a co-op while you're still in uni. An internship helps too but not by itself. Don't be afraid to apply to jobs that you'd have to move for.

>>153959071
It's more about being a leech to your parents for so long

>>153956537
Most of the time when it happens in anime or in VNs or whatever its justified as "not really alcohol"

>>153958996
>semiNEET

No such thing.

>>153959281
>this is what wagecucks believe

i know you're mad because you're forced to work

>>153959281
It's not leeching if they agree with it.

>>153948685
Tell me about it, professional wizad neet of 12 and none of the anime neets and hikis feel realistic. It's cultural appropriation.

>>153959580
You really think your parents want you to be a NEET?

>>153958996
>spend a ton of money on university and then not make money

Why?

>>153959649
I honestly don't care.

>>153959703
That's fine, just don't assume they agree with you.

>>153959649
Yes. Considering we live in a first-world country unlike you.

Been NEET for 5 years after I dropped out of high school. Recently got a job with a construction company and now make €3500 every month. It's amazing how lucky I got.

>>153948685
>16 years old
>NEET

Why don't they just call him a high school dropout? He's got plenty of time to get his shit together. Also he's a licensed adventurer and inventor.

>>153959493
I'm not forced, i have enough money saved to be a NEET for a year and a half, but when you get a job you have access to better shit and more independency with what you do with your money, granted that working can be a annoying, but is not as bad as you think

>>153958738
>/a/
>blog

Part of growing up in a poor family meant that I had to work since I was 14. By the time I graduated university, I already had a decade of work experience.

You gotta start from somewhere.

>>153959677
>not living in a country with free education

I've become a NEET because I genuinely hate talking to people and this thread is no exception. Only reason I'm here it's because you all are anonymous and I could treat you all like cleverbot.

>>153960172
WATASHITACHI WA NINGEN DA!

>>153956709
>leaving the NEET dream
Why would you do that, I don't think I can get happier than that.

>>153960128
That usually means country is commieshit though.

>isekai shit
>surprised that the character is a selfinsert
woooooooooooooooooooooooooooow

>>153956453
hikineet beta revolution when

>>153960563
OP was saying the opposite though.

>>153960689
Self-insert means idealized version of myself.

>>153960447
>Finland
>free education
>top 5 best education system worldwide, often ranked #1
Maybe you should try some of that communism yourself.

>>153960709
>top 5 best education system worldwide, often ranked #1
>As an example
You won't be happy if we all come over to live there so don't shun us for not living in Finland.

>>153960708
>idealized version of myself
People do that?

>>153959424
It exists. I go to uni just to spend time and get extra bucks for studying some Engineering career, not to actually work in the future on that area.

>>153960807
Where do you think Mary Sues come from?

>>153960844
You're not a NEET or a SemiNEET.

Actually read up on what it means.

>>153954890
what chart is this senpai?

>>153960897
Semantic drift.

>>153960897
Why? I might be in Education and Training, but for me is just a way to spend the day, just like reading manga, watching anime and playing vidya for others. Not in Employment.

>>153960997
If you are in education then you aren't a NEET you dense motherfucker, it's in the concept itself, it doesn't matter if you enjoy it or not

Is there any hope to see a real description in mangas/novels of NEETs nowadays in the fashion of Welcome to NHK???

>>153960997
You're not a NEET or a SemiNEET.

How do you get a job anyway? My grandparents gave me advice to go to place where I want to work and start doing the work and when they ask me what I'm doing, I should just shake their hand and ask for job.
But when I did that, went to store and started putting food on shelves and optimizing the layout of freezers, they called security on me. I even baked pies that I put on sale there, but no job offer. Similar things happened at my other jobs, nobody wants me to cut their garden, teach the kids how to swim or help with choosing clothes. My social work assistant adviced me to not worry about it, try to fill your life with hobbies and be nice to people, but when I did that and tried to organize her desk she got angry too. I just want to work like everyone else.

>>153960844
>>153960997
You sound like that fakeNEET kid from Kamisama Memochou who kept insisting he was NEET and only went to college for access to the library.

God that show was awful.

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>>153961116
This better be a pasta.

>>153960997
>Why? I might be in Education and Training
>A NEET or neet is a young person who is "Not in Education, Employment, or Training".

You're the most retarded person I've met today.

>>153960997
That's called being an "Otaku" you dumb twat.

>>153961163
At least he's in education.

>>153961187
That's the saddest part

>>153961187
lol in education

>>153960890
Youjo Senki?

>>153954772
Not in Education Employment or Training

>>153961335
>Training
Jogging counts?

>>153961408
If it's to run a marathon to win money, then yes

>>153961408
Training implies it's for a job, so like an internship or whatever.

>>153953568
He's 20 the web novel. 16-17 in everything else. I agree, it's difficult to call him a NEET or a hikko, but you could call him an underacheiver.

>>153960997
Ain't no such thing as Halfway Crooks.

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>>153956544
nice try, mother.

>>153950059
I'LL MAKE YOU EAT THOSE WORDS

>>153957740
Language is literally the only field where something can be true if enough people say it is. Let's imagine that "neet" is a different word than "NEET". The former may have an etymology derived from the latter, but it can develop its own meaning over time.

>>153962009
Your logic is gay.
NEET is abbreviation.
You either meet its terms conditions or not.

>>153962239
No, that's how language works. What something "should be" is irrelevant. A lot of English words come from Latin ones that are only tangentially related to the meaning they carry today. "Armageddon" is literally a hill in Israel, but if you use the word in English, people know what you're really saying is, "the bloody, fiery, end of the world".

>>153962368
>What something "should be" is irrelevant.
See above about gay logic.
It's an abbreviation, a technical term.
Just because people misuse it doesn't mean it gain new meaning.
They're just being poser retards en masse.

>>153954102
Neet - Not in employment, education, or training.
Hikikomori - Shut in rarely if ever leaveing their room

There is a distinct difference between the two.

>>153962459
You really don't get how language works. All a word is, is a symbol which a group of people have assigned to a meaning. That's it. The specific technical meaning you're referring to was assigned by some ministry of the British government, and in that context it has that meaning.

As it is, your use of "gay" in "gay logic" it itself an idiosyncratic coinage. "Gay" was originally a synonym for happy or pleasant. Later it came to mean, "a male homosexual". But your usage is a step beyond even that. Logic has no sexual orientation, so taken literally, "gay logic" is a meaningless expression. Only by understanding "gay" as a general pejorative, synonymous with "bad" or "stupid", is your post even readable.

>>153962812
I'm assuming he's just mad that people who aren't as much of a failure as him are using a term he deeply relates with.
At least that's why I'm mad.

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>>153962812

>>153962812
That's with common use words which change over time, but with technical terms it doesn't work like that, they still have their meaning that is incorrectly used

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>>153962934
KOREDA!

>>153962959
>say the loli with the soul of a man

>>153948685
>tfw i'm all but forced to be a NEET because of circumstances/disabilites
>i'm supposed to hate myself because this guy gets more pussy than I do and scientists hate him, find out how

Na, i'm more insulted that OP thinks that being a NEET is something to be worth being insulted about.

Just enjoy the ride you hating kusoNEET motherfucker.

>>153959912
I have watched every I know forced to work 1 job + as much over time as they can get, or multiple jobs to live, but here I am, 29 and never worked, they wonder how I could live with myself, but I honestly know that this is the best time of my life, the moment I work its all down hill because 9+ hours a day to make barely enough if even enough to survive, vs sitting in my room doing nothing but having fun pursuing my interests.

>>153963199
How do you even get money?

>>153959721
My parents have watched 12+ divorces in the family and friends all of which the woman took everything from the man, and they still try to force me to date and 'find someone'

If after seeing 12+ marriages fail and the only ones that didn't were people who were from the 50's or older, then fuck them and their 'what's best for me shit'

>>153962979
There's no difference between common words and technical words other than the contexts they are used in. This isn't like Newspeak where we have a separate C vocabulary for the things. As it is, a number of "common words" like evaporate, distill, vitriol, humor, rectify, retort; these all have technical origins.

>>153963270
long story short, I don't get much and live with parents, just what comes in the form of dividends, beyond that I leach off of them, none of this "i want a new computer, get me one" shit, but food and life necessities are provided.

If they ever kick me out, i have around 1-3 years of savings thanks to stocks to live off of, potentially up to 7 years depending on how they do this year, but at that point, I am going to play every card I have, my feet feel like they are ripping when I stand, my knees hurt, my back makes lifting anything or even standing impossible for more then 10 minutes without pain, my hands have an issue where if I use grip strength at all, they will randomly have a VERY sharp stabbing pain that makes wiping my ass with that hand near impossible for a good 3-4 days. Only reason I don't try for disability now is how afraid I am that a doctor will blow me off yet the fuck again and i'm told everyone deals with this, suck it up.

If I cant get physical disability, could probably hit mental, and if that doesn't work killing myself, because my dad, who I see as doing everything right in life, wakes up at 10~, goes to work at 1:30pm comes home at around 11:30 to 3:30am, getting at worst 2 hours of free time in the morning, and 3 hours in the evening, or just 2 hours a day as he works overtime most days. They don't have massive debt, but till my grandpa died and live insurance paid out, they way they talked about money was as if an extra 100$ a week would bankrupt them, the fucker makes nearly if not over 30$ an hour now. If he HAD to work like that to not be in debt, what the actual fuck hope do I have when I barely qualify for minimum wage, Ill take 100$ buy a gun and put one in my head if that's the case.

>>153963847
I didn't ask for your life story, Jesus.

>>153956914
>>Fun fact: the meaning of words change over time
Fun fact: whenever you see somebody use this "argument" it's because they have literally nothing else to support their totally incorrect stance when it comes to word usage. This is your actual argument at this point "Yeah I may be wrong according to every dictionary and the generally understood meaning of the term according to people who actually know what it means, but if enough stupid people like me keep using it incorrectly we'll eventually be right, maybe."

>>153956544
>You can be a wagie and a NEET
So this is the kind of mouth breathing moron we have on /a/ now

>>153964051
>the generally understood meaning of the term
Which changes as people use it.
>according to people who actually know what it means
But we still haven't a priori defined what the meaning is. What you're actually doing is saying only certain people can define a word. In French or Spanish that might make sense, but English has no national language academy.

>>153959908
Because he was a neet in his world, not the fantasy world he went to.

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>>153964234
Sasuga retarded namefag.

>>153956914
Not for acronyms you dumb shit, that's just stupid fucks like you and them being too stupid to learn what it means.

You're probably one of those mouth-breathers who never actually learned what certain turns of phrase actually were and just sound them out as you write them.

"It's all one in the same, says the statue of limitations"

that's you.

>>153964234
More evidence that the only people who use trips on 4chan outside of what they're meant for are mentally deficient sub-humans.

>>153948685
I've been a NEET for 4 years and I don't see anything wrong with him.

>>153956544
You literally cannot by definition of NEET

>>153965910
Except that he's a student.
Education = not a NEET

>>153967660
Okay so Kazuma was a hiki.

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>>153967713
Yes.