Dragon Ball Super

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N-NANI

The 4 univeres aren't going to be excluded. When Doggo says if he wins no universes should get nuked, Goku is going to say if he wins, every universe should have to fight and it's no fun if he can't see all the strong guys

I like how Whis let all of this happen purely because he doesn't give a shit.

DRAGON GOD ZALAMA IS A CHARACTER YET TO BE SEEN

imagine if they forget it and dragon balls aren't important at all

>>153943241
Watch your mouth. Cooking has the strongest powerlevel. It saved the earth from destruction when Goku couldn't.

DB is a prequel to Toriko.

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>>153943241
Best GoD reporting in.

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>Not wanting to fuck cute boi

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Zamasu did nothing wrong
Fuck Trunks

genocide the weaks

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FUCK YEAH THE ANGELS WILL SURVIVE!

I hope they expand on what they mean by mortal level. It better not just be fighting power.

>>153943287
>literally "The weak should fear the strong", the Tournament

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>>153943280
>Dragon Ball (Super)'s final boss is a Dragon God
POTTERY

>>153943306
clearly universe 1 has the best pussies

>>153943241
Yes, but will Beerus and Kaioshin actually learn from this and do their jobs properly, or will they just learn nothing from this and go on being shitty at their job?

>>153943306
I'm guessing anything that will eventually die of old age.

But the elder Kai proves that Kais age too so dunno.

>>153943268
As much as I agree, I also think Goku is gonna attempt to ask Zen to not destroy the universes & just combine them into one

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>Zeno was going to destroy some universes eventually
>Goku saved U7 with the tournament idea

OUR SAIYAN

>B-but epic evil Goku

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>Gohan does the Yamcha pose in the episode

kek

>goku just wants to fight and doesn't really care if a universe disappears
Goku is the true villain of DB.

what is Goku so autist all the time.

100 episodes of tournament would be boring as fuck. i guess something will happen. Like head-angel nukes the zenos or every universe riot.

>>153943393
shoop him into yamchas crater

>>153943241
>>153943334
>There's this guy - Frieza - he's destroying all advanced planets that can pose a threat to him!
>Shin: Whatever. Kibito isn't that a tea time?

You know, this whole Universal Ningen Level thing sounds like it could be a lead-in to Dragon Ball Online, where the Z-Fighters ended up teaching martial arts to the world to make everyone stronger.

UNL seems to put emphasis on power levels given that the nature of the tournament is fighting to survive, after all.

>>153943351

The idea of merging the losing universe into one does sound interesting.

>>153943434
>100 episodes of tournament would be boring as fuck

get the fuck outta here!

>>153943450
To be fair Shin was not invented back then.

>>153943450
t. Zamasu

I love how U9 Kai has been talking shit this whole time about how great his fighters are, and then Grand Priest just casually throws out there that his whole universe is scrub tier.

>W-will the losing team of the exhibition match have their universe destroyed?

Does it even matter? Your team is getting their asses kicked by the second weakest universe. Literally anyone else would invert your anuses.

>>153943400

Reminder that Zeno was going to destroy universe 7 anyway for being so weak. Goku has literally saved everyone by asking for the tournament.

>Goku is evil fags btfo

Soo U7 is so weak they had to import cat race god from another universe.

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What could go wrong?

>>153943467
it's literally the only way this has a happy ending. And just my luck, that fucking clown/God is gonna do some shit to fuck with our universe, before & after the merge. Calling it now

so, if the exempted universes are more advanced than U7, are time machines very common in those universes you guys think?

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Posting v27

If the basis for a universe being destroyed is an average powerlevel of all beings across the universe, why doesn't beerus just go around and destroy a shitload of planets with single celled organisms and shit on it to bring the average up?

>Goku teaches everyone Instant Transmission like he should have
>not being able to use it in GT is a non-issue because Trunks and probably Pan can use it
>all this other dumb shit in Super and Z that would have been solved with other people being able to use it
damn this is epic

>>153943538
Second weakest universe on average. Any universe could have the strongest individuals

>>153943551
there might be a cat race in U7 just like the saiyans in U6. or maybe Clown kidnapped a cat.

>>153943572
Stop posting it every fucking thread if you're not going to make any changes

>>153943582
Fair enough, but still.

>>153943560
I honestly thought Goku was going to destroy the senzus in this scene

>>153943400
Goku saved his universe with this tournament, he's the hero once again

>>153943574

Thats literally what beerus is supposed to do. The reason U7's average is so bad is that he arbitrarily destroys powerful cultures based on their cooking abilities.

Beerus fucked up.

>>153943347

Don't the elder kai look like that because he potara'd with an ugly old witch?

>>153943565
I want someone to make an image of clown god destroying a planet by spraying it with silly string and seltzer water while riding a unicycle and juggling
ends with the planet exploding and them riding away while honking their nose

>>153943560
I kept waiting for him to destroy the Senzu Beans.

>>153943604
This guy gets it.

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>>153943538
He will find some way to make his team stronger. He will give them masks pumping that purple thing all the time and making them big guys.

>>153943400
>Hack writer makes changes to the script to add "OH BY THE WAY WE WERE GOING TO DESTROY THE UNIVERSES ANYWAYS xD"

>>153943617
Oh that's right.

>>153943624
4 (You).

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>>153943462
>DB Xenoverse 3 unified servers

>Switch vs. PS4
>Switch wins
cool to be frank

>>153943572
universe merged zamasu is probably under Zeno

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Rate my U7 team

>>153943727
captain ginyu is too OP for this team

>>153943572
Goku and Vegeta are piss weak. SSB is worthless

>>153943624
What if someone will pull them off? Will Universe 9 die?

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>>153943241
Who cares what the average power level of U7 is when they could body everyone including the angels IF instead of getting five shitty humans they were smart and assembled a team of

>True Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan Goku Kaioken x50
>True Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan Vegeta
>Super Saiyan Rage True Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan Ultimate Gohan
>Pure Buu (Uub absorbed)
>Super-Perfect Golden Cell
>Super Saiyan Rage Future Future Trunks
>Platinum Frieza
>Super Namekian God Super Namekian Piccolo
>Super Saiyan Rage Past Future Trunks
>Legendary Super Saiyan God Legendary Super Saiyan Broly

Beerus could be sitting pretty not worrying about anything

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>>153943727
where is bulma?

>>153943660
Talking video game characters SONY would win because they have that eternally seething roid freak Kratos

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>>153943727
Delet this.

>>153943727
Pretty good
Ginyu can take over the strongest fighters bodies
Guldo can time stop and oneshot everyone

>>153943574
But that's just stupid.
How in the fuck are people supposed to get to that level if they're just fucking wiped out before they get there?

I wish the god of destruction were just people who made sure that frieza and gohan tier mutants, buu tier natural disasters, living weapons like cell and the androids, and beings who ascended to high levels of power like goku and vegeta were under the jurisdtiction of the gods along with worlds that had no potential and were all chaotic.

And worlds with some potential and were just gaining new life were nurtured and protected by the gods of creation/life.

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>>153943727
You need 5 more fighters. Don't worry anon, that's why I'm here.

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>>153943770
Kratos a shit

>>153943572
SSB Goku and Vegeta are above SSR Goku Black, you nigger.

How the fuck is champa's universe stronger than universe 7?

They literally got btfo at the last tournament.

>>153943572
Universe zamasu is stronger than anyone beside zeno.

His ki was sensed by both beerus and whis without them taking it lightly.

>>153943609
Beerus should start doing his job.

>>153943805
Anon, they're talking about the average of the entire universe, not who's the best among their fighters.

>>153943763
>IF instead of getting five shitty humans they were smart
>if they were smart
Unfortunately we have idiots for both the protagonists and the writers, so we're SOL.

>>153943805
Average mortals are just stronger but they lack super op fighters.

>>153943617
>>153943656
They still age. Old Kaioshin does say he has something like "only" 5000 years left to live when he gives his life to Goku so he can fight Boo.
And then you've got Gowasu who is ancient.
Roh also looks considerably older than Shin, but not as ancient as Old Kaioshin or Gowasu.

>>153943805
It's average rating and we don't know what that "mortal level" actually mean - it doesn't have to be power level. I would say Bulma has higher "mortal level" than anyone in U7.

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>>153943805
>literally btfo

say it in front of me

>>153943793
you sound like Supreme Kai... ugh..

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Does this look like the face of mercy?

>>153943763
>Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan Goku Kaioken x50

Why do people keep asking for this? The whole "If you use this, you will permanently fuck up your ki and never get stronger." thing scared Goku away from it.

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>A multiversal godlike being charges its representatives in each universe to monitor and nurture planets to become great, but ultimately pits intelligent lifeforms together to determine which should be spared destruction

Hmmm

Where have I read this before

Hmmm

>>153943805
Champa's probably just an incompetent retard who doesn't know anything about his universe judging by how he just sent out Vados to find some strong fighters for the U6 tournament and didn't know about shit like Brolyne

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>>153943241
SMILE AND OPTIMISM: GONE

>>153943763
>Pure Buu (Uub absorbed)

Yeah, let's go end a small child's life so we can win a tournament.

>Legendary Super Saiyan God Legendary
Super Saiyan Broly

Ningen, please.

>>153943894
>pic unrelated

This entire arc is to give Goku a fighting chance against Superman someday

>>153943805
The second weakest person on Champa's team was Frost.
And Hitt could have litterally solo'd every single major person from U6 except for kid buu. And that's only because he needed to be completely burned to nothing with a significantly powerful energy attack.

>>153943805
>They literally got btfo at the last tournament.

>Hit giving up means they got btfo

ok then

>>153943909
I think he was talking about destruction of Jupiter so Europa can prosper

>>153943912
he's already surpassed mainstream superman. only pre-crisis supes, superman prime, superman 1 million and thought robot superman can beat him now.

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>>153943283
Shame he's gonna do nothin

>>153943884
because the universe is at stake>>153943884

>>153943944
Hit would stand no chance against nipples.

>>153943906
>Yeah, let's go end a small child's life so we can win a tournament.
Let's go end everyones lives because we couldn't win a tournament

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post yfw End of Z is literally unironically 4 years before the second Tournament of Power against the 7+ universes (Uub boosts the level of an entire universe)

>U6 is erased
>beerus gets mad cause he really loved champa
>starts plans to kill Zeno
>U7 vs strongest universes arc

>>153943906
>Yeah, let's go end a small child's life so we can win a tournament.
If we don't win everyone dies

>>153943763
This is the most autistic list but probably right if you get some bullshit Dabura transformation instead of non-canon Broly

>>153943765
It's bizarre that Bulma can get away with slapping Beerus now.

>>153943944
>Goku giving up means Hit can BTFO the entire team
ok then

>>153943805
You need to account for the billions and billions of power level 3 ningers. Even if you had 9000000 goku it's still not even 4 on average with a billion of those.

>>153943604
I thought he would give a senzu to the wolf guy after gohan started winning against him again. Goku is a sadistic father.

>>153943895
>Brolyne
Oh you mean the current shitty addition to the mythos that not a single solitary person is looking forward too, likes, or thinks will even add up to a passably funny throwaway gag?
The one that not even the die hard creepy as fuck otaku on 2chan think is good?
Yeah..awesome.

>>153943955
>only pre-crisis supes, superman prime, superman 1 million and thought robot superman can beat him now
Are they part of Universe 1

>>153943978
I expect Beerus to wish he never met Goku after this, setting every back to normal and keeping End of Z canon

>The furries have more art than new angels...

>>153944045
>I expect Beerus to wish he never met Goku after this
and losing his best warrior and his only chance to keep eating delicious food
nah

>>153943241
What if mortal level = cooking level?

>>153944015
>People hate Fe-Broly
What? I never saw anyone in here or outside hating her.

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>Grand Priest destroys everthing except his kids
>Except we've established already that if an angel has no GoD they get frozen until a new one shows up

>>153944001
Considering Hit was holding back, yes, he can

Mortal Level = intelligence.
>Goku is dragging the entire universe down

>>153944045
In that case, U7 might have been destroyed/erased just like that, without any chance to fight for survival.

>>153943955
Like I said...
And I'm not counting the Death Battle shit cause that was entertainment.
Goku is a better fighter than Clark. He's not smarter nor is he stronger. Goku is faster tho. Instant transmission = instant. During the Metal Cooler movie, you saw Goku fighting Cooler in that "instant transmission" move saving Vegeta.
With that said, and how this tournament is looking, Goku needs more versatile moves to keep up with a man who rejuvenates just by sun bathing

>>153943960
>using most of the wrong GoD names

>>153943287
God I wish Zamasu wasn't so handsome.

>>153943978
dude uub is trash tier
kid buu was only good thanks to his body.

Uub has no special powers, just some fighting spirit. He is a human and will be krillin tier at most

>>153944096
He's just going to hook them up to another one in a non-deleted universe more than likely. Or it'll be a situation like his current one.

>>153943241
If a planet can't cook properly it won't reach high civilization.

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>>153944045
>This meme again

>yfw U9 kai will bribe people from the strongest 4 universes to join his universe

>>153944105
>Tournament of Power will be Quiz Show

>>153944097
You do realize Goku is stronger than Hit now, right?

Goku simply threw the match back then, and in response, Hit did so too. It wasn't Hit randomly throwing the match without any other context.

>>153944096
based hiro, freeze more mods

Next Arc:
To up their mortal level some universe has stolen earth! Can Goku bring it back?

>>153943970
Oh snap

>>153943763
>Pure Buu (Uub absorbed)
Why would you give the fat retard who sucks shit at fighting the kid who even vegeta acknowledged as a fucking prodigy?

>>153944123
>Uub has no special powers, just some fighting spirit. He is a human and will be krillin tier at most

Interesting. Source?

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>>153944096
>>153944181
Which boards have the hightest mortal level? Which have the lowest? Tournament of Power when?

>>153944088
This your first day on the net?>>153944177
>You do realize Goku is stronger than Hit now, right?

>>153943763
Epic fanfic. Where's the rest?

>>153944177
>You do realize Goku is stronger than Hit now, right?

You have no idea how much I outright fucking detest that sub shit tier filler that was obviously drawn by unpaid interns. No clue.

>>153944240
Didn't you watch the shit with Goku hiring Hit to assassinate him just so Goku could defeat him in an actual fight?

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Would it be against the rules for goku and vegeta to fuse?

>>153944279
There're no rules yet

>>153944265
Oh no, your cheap 'nothin personnel kid' character with asspull powerups got asspull defeated in fillershit.

How horrible.

>>153944232
Pre-Reddit/E-celeb /v/ would be high-tier because of the ANGER.

Post Reddit/E-Celeb /v/ is lower than MLP and trash.

>>153944123
whaaaaat? The kid ended up hurting Goku which you said was after the first T.O.P. Any being that lives in the same universe as Goku that can actually hurt Goku MUST be on A tier or higher. And lets nor forget the last time we had someone with a lot of potential train at a young age (Looking at you, Gohan)

>>153944232
/r9k is the highest unironically followed by /po and /his

I think /vip gotta go

>>153944123
You're litterally fucking retarded.

He was STRONGER then krillian was at his peak in EoZ and learned things that it took goku and krillian years to master in seconds.
Ki sensing?
Increasing his power in the same way goku did after witnessing it?
Learning how goku fought and learning how to mimic it and counter it at the same time?
He'd have picked up the kamehawave and how to fly if the stage hadn't given way.

Did I mention his unique power up? How he would turn blood red and his cheeks would get puffed out and steam would rise off of his head.

>>153943805
By 2 guys aka goku and vegeta. Outliers don't matter. You could have one guy who is strongest in the weakest universe.

Zeno announced winner can make any angel his girlfriend.
>Yamcha suddenly stomps everyone!

>>153943818
Beerus didn't seem to care that much about it actually. I think he could have taken it. Whis could for sure. Pretty sure Whis has a shit ton of techniques we don't know about.

>>153944339
Hell, I would stomp Zeno if I could get Vados.

>>153944105
>Mortal Level = intelligence.
>sayians killed the tuffles who were way smarter
MONKEY FUCKS

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>when you are the only smart person in the thread

>>153944265
Toei needed to nerf Hit because the shitty non canon ssb kaioken fucked up the power scaling

>>153944296
Yeah, fuck there being interesting super powerful characters from other universes.
If they aren't a saiyajin knock off and or somelevel of skinny literal faggot then they aren't deep or cool enough for you!

Anime Hiit was litterally a more subdued and more interesting version of general tao.
I bet you fags would have shit all over GT just because he existed and beat up goku.

>>153944232
/trash/ is the world of zeno

>>153944232
>>153944300
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YVys7jcCJDs

>>153944265
all it did was nerf Hit to the original plot outline tier, wew.

>>153944045
>Please get rid of goku he is so autistic and dumb that I can't take it anymore.

kek

>>153944279
Not in Zenran-jiai, but Vegeta isn't participating.
We don't know the rules for the actual tournament.

Fun fact, Zenran-jiai is a pun on Tenran-jiai, which was a martial arts exhibition match performed in front of Japanese Emperor.

>>153944390
That's a lot of strawmanning. It could be that there's a strong character without it being as shit, boring and asspull as Hit?

Sorry that your edgy trenchcoat wearing time-power bad-ass stopped being relevant, spic.

>>153944123
UUB at full will at least be stronger than ss3 goku. However blue it would be weird. I'm guessing they will have to make uub stronger if he wants to be relevant.

>>153944232
Old /v/ was definitely highest powerlevel but nu/v/ is quite trash.
The split into subboards like /vp/, /vg/ and /vr/ certainly didn't help.

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>>153943960

>4 of /OUR GUY/ universes aren't competing

>>153944425
They're reserved for next arc since they're literally on a whole nutha level.

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I'm just glad they survive.

>>153943551
It seem like Beerus wouldn't have been surprised about other universes being stronger if that was the case.

>>153943981
that would be incredibly sad
but hype

here is the best U7 team

goku
vegeta
mr buu
perfect cell
dabura
monster carrot
captain ginyu
king cold
monaka
yamcha

>>153943241
This is why I don't buy the "Beerus is above good and evil" argument. I could buy it either if like you said he destroyed crappy planets that somehow failed, kind of like Marvel's Celestials, or did it at random, kind of like Galactus.
By doing it based on his own selfish criteria, it becomes about him and not what's "good" for the universe. Plus he's a huge asshole.

>>153944381
The black saga irreversibly fucked the power scaling in every way you can imagine.
I shit you not.
It was just a clusterfuck of stupid shit happening everywhere.

That was just them throwing Hit under the bus because...christ I can't honestly think of a logical reason. I just can't.

>U7 is second to last
Why are they so shit?

>>153944390
But anime Hit is trash

>>153944455
His election to godhood was like 500000 years ago. His home universe could have been much weaker back then.

>>153944462
>no devilman

>>153944462
>no Devilman

>>153944425
That clown could very well be strongest god of destruction.

>>153944462
you know what?
Probably Zeno saw Monaka and said, "U7 is weak, gotta go"

>>153944478
He is. Hit was cool being as powerful as he is, but having him be overpowered, only to at the end go "h-haha, but I can actually go even further than you." was stupid and annoying.

That anime fight had way too many "but actually!"s.

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>Zeno-sama has done the math to decide which are the weakest universes

Something's suspicious here, Zen-chan doesn't strike me as the kind of guy to do math.

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I think I've perfected my U7 team, how's this?

>>153944476
Hit got nerfed because he's actually participating in the tournament and his powerlevel needs to match the scaling from the manga aka the plot outline.
With Zamasu and Trunks they could do whatever the fuck they wanted since they simply got rid of both of those characters permanently and they will not be returning so everything goes.

>>153944422
Name five villains in DB that were not just a collection of asspulls.

Fucking face it.
Hiit was the only good unique thing to come out of DBS and they fucked it up magically.

But that's okay.
This clusterfuck of a tournament will have a bunch of stupid random assholes that no one gives a fuck about in it!
That's much better then the established character that everyone knew and liked being something that people would look forward to seeing!

>>153944519
xdddd

>>153944519
please toriyama please bring back the demon realm

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>>153944519
No Bacteria? Those nose fuckers don't stand a chance!

>>153944470
Until it enters a morally grey area like (IF X DOESN'T DIE, Y DIES) type situations, it's pretty easy to apply good/evil to pretty much anything.
That said I agree with you.

>>153943960
>universe 11's guy looks like beerus
cool

>>153944535
What did you expect? Goku was already starting to surpass Hit in their very first fight. He was obviously interested in overcoming him, that's why he wanted a real fight with him. Now that becoming stronger than Hit is no longer his fascination, he'll probably move on to Ayy Lmao.

Also, maybe you should stop getting attached to trenchcoat wearing deviantart OCs.

>>153944563
Aliens don't have noses, moron

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>>153944477
i can give you three reasons

the first being that supreme kai wasn't able to learn how to be a proper supreme kai because his counterparts were all killed by buu, grreatly stunting his growth

the second being that beerus was asleep for long periods of time, not paying attention to the universe and letting everyone do what they wanted, he didnt even get involved when buu killed the kais

the third being freeza, who ruled the universe as a result of beerus not doing his job properly, we can conclude based on a lot of information from freeza's fear of the saiyans he likely destroyed some strong races from outer space, races that beerus might have use for, also keep in mind that freeza was x5 the strength of ginyu in his first form, and everyone in the ginyu force was less than half of ginyu's power

it's very likely the universe would have been fine if majin buu didnt kill the kaioshins

>>153944535
Freeza's transformations were literally built up long before we actually saw them.

Entirety of the Android/Cell saga however is asspull incarnate since it was prime example of executive fuckery.

>>153944516
That's one thing that's bothered me, we never see Zeno doing most of these supposed things on screen but only hear from Daishinkai. But Zeno didn't go "lmao I didn't Daishinkai the fuck are you talkin bout" when he said that so whatever.

>>153944570
I actually hope it's a chick, which would also explain the difference in facial features.

>>153944535
Hit constantly going "But actually I can go even beyond!"

And then Goku responding with "But I can, too!" was getting annoying. I know not many villains in DB are good, but that's not really a good standard to begin with. You're arguing about why you think Hit is a good character or a character that should remain relevant, not why he's less shit than, say, Cell.

Best team (Alive or Dead)
Goku
Vegeta
Gohan
Arale
Buu (doesn't matter which one)
Golden Freeza
Broly
Devilman (>>153944485 got you covered)
Piccolo
Android 13

>>153944629
>no yangus
what the fuck are you even doing?

>>153944478
He's the kind of technical fighter that Toriyama loved to make.
He's also got the kind of personality that makes him goku's exact opposite.
Add in the fact that he's actually stronger then goku and a better fighter who can't just be over come with new SSJ forms. He's exactly the kind of arch nemesis that goku would want to fight.

Simply stopping it because it didn't jive with the inferior fifth string cartoonish thug from the manga was a bad call.

>>153944513
>I'm much stronger then you think and I've got fighting skills that would destroy you instantly.
>But I think you're cool and want to fight you now.

Bam, instant Goku happy and having a cool powerful fighter to face. And an audience who's thinking "What kind of powers does Hiit have!"

BUT they threw that away because...reasons. You know, so we could get tranny brolly, and the three wolf brothers, and other assorted stuff no one gives a shit about!

>>153944659
What makes Hit any better than those new faggots. All of them are on the level of someone with god ki "because we need new challenges.", Hit is no different. All he has is that cliché time-based ability.

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>people unironically like Hit
Literally a poor man's Tao Pai Pai with DeviantArt OC tier design like Paikuhan was and the most asspull of powers aka Time Stop.
The only thing that could make Hit even more DeviantArt OC tier would be he suddenly got the powers of Killer Queen, King Crimson, Made in Heaven and Za Warudo Over Heaven

>>153944659
>Add in the fact that he's actually stronger then goku and a better fighter who can't just be over come with new SSJ forms. He's exactly the kind of arch nemesis that goku would want to fight
What are you complaining about, then? He didn't defeat Hit by obtaining a new super saiyan form, but by thinking logically about how to negate his abilities/skills. Exactly what you wanted?

Be consistent and mind those goalposts.

>>153943960
>All gods designed by Toyotaro are not taking part in the Tournament

What a coincidence

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>>153944659
Spic pls go.
Hit is the definition of shonen powercreep trash in a very negative way.
*teleports behind you*
*stops time*
MUDAMUDAMUDAMUDAMUDAMUDAMUDAMUDA
Heh, you're already dead, kiddo
*resumes time*
WRYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY

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>>153943604
W-What's going on with Goku? I'm getting scarred

>>153944714
the majority of them are designed by Toyo so no matter how you cut it it's going to be all about Toyotaro.

>>153943604
Personally I fully expected him to give the furfag a senzu the second Gohan started winning.

>>153944738
I agree. They just didn't know how to give Hit a limit in the anime, and that was annoying. He was a guy with special abilities, but also he could pull other shit out of his ass even when he had his back against the wall.

The whole deal with Goku finding a way around timeskip because it was such a powerful ability was cool, but then Hit goes "Well, I didn't even know what it was, but I can bring my ki to the next level because."

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APOLOGIZE

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>>153944714
The ones designed by him and Toriyama are though. It's the only the full on Toyo fanfic ones that are irrelevant.
I assume the ones made by Toyo and Tori were designed by Toyo first and the Toriyama redesigned them to more fit his tastes.
You know, just like what happened with Bardock with Toriyama redrawing the original design that some other artist made initially.
And Toriyama's redesign of Bardock is objectively superior even if he actually gave him identical hair as Goku instead of slightly different one. Though I guess hair is supposed to run in the family considering Vegeta has same hair as his father.

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>anybody he touches is turned into a carrot
>big ass jumps
Is there a single dragon ball character that can beat him?

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Be Honest.

This was the highlight of the episode.

>>153944573
>What did you expect? Goku was already starting to surpass Hit in their very first fight.
No he didn't.

>He was obviously interested in overcoming him, that's why he wanted a real fight with him.
Exactly, which would have made them fighting in the tournament cool.
>Now that becoming stronger than Hit is no longer his fascination, he'll probably move on to Ayy Lmao.
I don't give a shit.
>Also, maybe you should stop getting attached to trenchcoat wearing deviantart OCs.
Yeah...


>>153944591
>Freeza's transformations were literally built up long before we actually saw them.
No the fuck they weren't.

And yeah we all knew about the android/cell saga.

>>153944627
You are upset that hiit is strong, I am upset that hiit is no longer relevant as a character.

Lastly, the whole fight between them was classic DB as fuck. If you want to see the but I can go even beyond bullshit done so poorly it shit tanked the entire world then look no further then the black trunks saga.
Holy shit was that bad.

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Will she fuck up shit?

>>153944829
I really like their interaction. I just hope they start doing their job and communicating more now.

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>Destroying universes is bad
>Heaven exist and offers much higher quality of life for eternity

Someone explain this, why are they even giving a fuck?

Halp we have a stowaway from U9

http://dragonball.wikia.com/wiki/Mijorin

>>153944848
Heavens are part of the universes - Kais live there. It will also be destroyed.

>>153944829
yes

>>153944833
>No the fuck they weren't.
Dodoria mentions that Frieza can transform in his fight with Vegeta

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Is this, dare I say it, /ourteam/? Name fourty and two thirds (40.6666...) characters that can beat them.

>>153944829
this is best, need more banter

>>153944833
>No the fuck they weren't.
Yes they were.
Zarbon literally reveals Freeza can transform the second he and Vegeta meet on Namek.

Then when Vegeta tells Freeza to hurry and transform when Porunga fizzles out and Freeza misses on his wish, he asks Vegeta where did he know that from and concludes that it was probably from Zarbon. Then he says it doesn't matter because he actually has 2 more transformations in store anyway just to put Vegeta's bragging bullshit in its place.

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>>153944829
I really like how well the contrast.

>>153944833
>No he didn't.
Okay then.

Hitspics are really the most delusional.

Head angel will announce the following: Female angels of loser universes have to marry Oolong

>>153944878
Why is afterlive being destroyed?

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>>153944848
cant have kids cant have family
you know
the purpose of being born to begin with

>>153943805
AVERAGES AREN'T RANGES OR DEVAITIONS
Fucking math illiterates need to be shot. You were forced into school for a reason

>>153944920
Heaven, Hell and Mortals Plane are just parts of Universe. They all will be destroyed when Universe is gone. Even Supreme Kais plane - although it's floating outside of the universe

>>153944912
Why does anyone like Hit anyway?

Do we really have so many 12 year olds watching DBS and truly enjoying OC Donutsteel with time powers who can totally beat Goku because he's the stronkest and everyone loves him and thinks he's cool with his trenchcoat and silent bad-ass personality?

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>>153945003
Forgot pic. Lower part is Mortals Plane, Upper part is Heaven. Between them is Hell.

>>153945013
babby's first antagonist.

>>153944829
we need more of shin being a dick to beerus, because unlike everyone else, he can actually get away with it

>>153943297
Their new job will be cumsluts. Are you happy?

>>153944045
That would be the shittiest end of the series possible. If they're going the reset route, they may as well just give the last episode an "It was all a dream" ending, because people sure love those.

EoZ can still be canon, they just wouldn't have any need to bust out SSB/whatever transformation they have at that point for some regular Earth tournament.

Personally, I'm hoping that the next arc after this timeskips past EoZ, and retcons some of the worst aspects of it.

>>153944691
Why the fuck didn't Gohan fly away as soon as her was blinded? He jus stood there and kept getting punched.

>>153945013
I don't exactly like him, i like the way he is designed and his stylish as fuck trenchcoat, he pulled off a trenchcoat well and not just everyone can do that.

>>153943960
>ugly gods and kai design one are not taking part in the Tournamen
based toriyama

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>>153945038
he's too cute for that

>>153943609
Exercise starts with a good diet.

Beerus did nothing wrong.

>>153945054
If they gonna go for reset, it's gonna reset to the first arc of super when Beerus smacked SSG Goku from the orbit. Everything else from that point on was just Goku imaging things before destruction.

>>153945102
>implying beerus gives a fuck about nutrition

>>153943241
>Don't hold back, go all out from the start!
>Doesn't go SSJ until long after he's been blinded and poisoned
Gohan didn't lose his battle sense, he lost his common sense.

>>153945102
Eat well, sleep well. Too bad he forgot to actually train.

>>153945120
And why does he waste so much of a fight with fucking punches? Why don't they just spam ki blasts from the start?

So if U7 so weak then why it gave Zamasu most problems to get rid off?

>>153943727
Could Ginyu swap bodies with Zeno?

>>153944591
>Entirety of the Android/Cell saga however is asspull incarnate since it was prime example of executive fuckery
>executive fuckery

No it wasn't, it was Toriyama's FORMER editor calling him, and making fun of his villains. They didn't even work together at that point, and Toriyama was ultimately the guy who made the call.

>>153945174
>ginyu swaps bodies with one of the zeno's
>other zeno has no clue what happened
>gets erased by ginyu
>everyone goes to kill zeno
>they can't
>destroys everyone and mostly everything
>goes to namek
>revives Frieza

>>153945174
Probably, imagine Ginyu in charge.
Everyone would be a part of the Ginyu force, and be forced to do poses or be erased!

>>153945232
Gohan is finally main hero now!

>>153943538
Nothing about the episode implied that human-level equates to powerlevel. It's more likely that it refers to morality/civility. (U7 is full of fucking evil shit that Goku needs to beat up)

>>153945038
Beerus can still beat the shit out of him, he just can't kill him.

>>153945215

And that's a good thing.

19/20 would've been shitty major villains.

>>153945250
>Tournament of power

>>153945145
This, why didn't Gohan use the Kamehameha until the very end? This whole fight was stupid.

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>>153944516
I thought so as well
I bet this is just the Daishinkan doing his will and passing it off as the will of the Zeno, abusing his power as a counselor
I firmly believe the Daishinkan is going to be the final boss of Dragonball

>>153945173
Because wiping out a whole universe is a bit more trickier unless you happen to be Zeno.

>>153945250
Then why isn't U6 one of the top universes? They even have civilized Saiyans

>>153945305
But he wiped out all other 11 universes

>>153945296
>This whole fight was stupid.
At the level we have reached, they have to be stupid. The powercreep has gotten too bullshit so the writers need to make fights based on dumb themes and have the main characters retarded.

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>>153943572
So how is Mageta as strong as ssj3 goku?

>>153945281
Explain the conversation between Shin and Beerus, then.

Why would a kaioshin be in charge of making his universe strong? Why would shin say there's no point unless they become better on their own? That sounds like something you'd say about morality, not strength.

The most logical thing to do is force Yemma to revive Frieza and Cell, tell them not to destroy too much or the universe gets destroyed, shove them into the htc, then try to appeal to Zeno about their average ningen level.

But who are we kidding, we have to take the stupid route and fight it out with filler scrub fights.

>>153943241
>Goku talks about how excited he is about the tournament after being told its eugenics genocidal purpose
FUCK HIM. Seriously, fuck Goku, he's the worst "hero" ever.

>>153945362
They aren't in charge of it. He was just looking for someone to blame. They could, in theory, train and strengthen people easy enough.

There is no basis for it being morality. Nothing that's been said points to that. It's a tournament of power to see who of the weaker universes gets to stay.

>>153945362
Easy. For example, most of the other universe fighters seen have gimmicks. Random variations from their development. If the kais stick their dick in and teach everyone the same you miss out on cool OP abberations and loopholes. Better to let the naturally powerful rise to the top and then groom them rather than micromanage the whole thing.

Why did gohan go SS2 over some random android he barely knew that was originally invented to kill his father?

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>>153944829
Why does Shin and Beerus steal every episode they're in?

>>153945308
well Champa is fat so he probably cares less about doing his job and more about the position of having it

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>>153945413
They're best together in the manga.

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>If Beerus didn't have Planet Vegeta destroyed Universe 7 would have probably been one of the strong universes

It's time to remove this fucking cat from power.

>>153945379
Frieza
>I'm the ruler of this universe. You can't tell me what to do
>Probably gets destroyed by Beerus in anger

Cell
>Spiteful manchild who would rather laugh at everyone else's misfortune than help them to save himself

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>>153945427
this

>>153945413
>>153945427
They have the best interaction now.

>>153945405
because gohan-san was a pure innocent child that loved life, and everything good.. cell took that away from him

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>>153945356
Magetta is even stronger, that guy was basically invincible in the U6vsU7 arc, he only lost because of emotions, he and botamo could have trashed Goku and Vegeta in a normal fight

>>153945405
Because 16 turned out be the most peaceful motherfucker that represented all of the purity in the world. Although he was create to destroy, he went against his nature and just wanted to love birds and shit.

>>153945302
>ends in another Zen sama delet this moment
Swear to god if they do that

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>>153944096
wrong, they're unemployed when their pet GoD dies, they just stay at Dai's place until they're hired again

>>153945442
They have a whole lot of a better chance of increasing the average than Goku can. It took Goku decades just to get where he is. Frieza did in 4 months without help from Whis. Cell would be even better.

>>153945413
How the fuck did he finish his so quickly?

>>153945399
>There is no basis for it being morality.
We know Zen-chan hates evil already, he destroyed Zamasu-verse for that. What information do we have on Zen-chan that leads us to believe he thinks the entire universe should be stronger than level 7 or whatever arbitrary number? Why did he say NINGEN-level rather than powerlevel? Remember the whole previous arc being about NINGEN? Maybe that might have something to do with it.

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>>153943572
Even Boo is a better Gohan than Gohan. Poor Gohan fags...

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>>153945392
ur no fun

>>153945507
>We know Zen-chan hates evil already, he destroyed Zamasu-verse for that.
There is nothing to say that. I'm pretty sure that characters before have said that Zeno is beyond the concepts of good and evil and clearly doesn't understand them.

Zamasu just annoyed him and was unaesthetic.

>>153943960
Be a good sport and put "Cpt.Ayy" next to Toppo please.

>>153945392
Well to be fair, it turns out they were all going to be erased anyway.

>>153943727
Devilmite Beam is actually the ultimate deicide weapon given how evil all the Gods seem to be.

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>next episode
>macrofur

why

>>153945468
You sure about that?

>>153945479
Daily reminder that 16 was designed as replacement of Dr. Gero's son that was killed in cold blood by Kid Goku

So what are the chances that Goku makes the other universes participate in a run off second tournament?

>>153945581
The winners probably get to square off against the universes that didn't participate afterwards.

>>153945561
Weakest universe. Most likely to be erased.

Everything is ok.

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>>153945537
I would love to be zeno so much

>>153943241
Why does Zeno think that there are "to many universes"? Why does it even matter to him how many universes they are? Why does it matter how strong they are?

I'm disappointed that Champa wasn't bragging about U7 being weaker than U6

>>153945571
I am pretty sure Botamo and Magetta don't take dmg so kinda

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I need the new ost, it's like an actual modern Z ost

>>153945634
find out next year

https://youtu.be/F2290yaq4E4?t=2m9s
Does he say cool like frieza
I'd recommend you all listen to this full song as it's hilariously bad but i want to know if i'm hearing this right. Black weebs>White Weebs

So I have some indirect connections with Toei, and sometimes I have access to leaks, this time is just one pic but it's very surprising and I got really excited when I saw it, apparently Vegeta and Piccolo are going to have a greater role in the upcoming arc, get hype Vegeta fans.

>>153945639
Why would you be disappointed about that? He was shocked about the new information.

>>153945634
>Goku purposley added low power fighters like Master roshi and Tien to the mix to show zeno that strength doesn't matter

>>153945643
You're wrong.

>>153945663
In those promo pics 17 always looks like he's about take care of some bitches. I think it's because of his gloves

>>153945663
I have never heard 17's jap voice so it'll be my first time hearing him, i also never heard buu;s voice before the tournament and i dislike his.
Can't wait to hear 17's english voice doing some new stuff though!

>>153945729
I just love banter between Champa and Beerus

>>153945634
Multi Multiverse.

Zeno's dad will host another tournament to determine which king of all gets to keep their toys.

>>153943572
Wasn't SSG stronger than SSB?

Angel orgy when?

>>153943241
It's kind of Whis' fault too that U7 is so shitty too for letting Beerus do whatever he wants.

Did future Zeno also destroy future angels and future grand priest?

Is the DBS manga more fun then the anime?

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>>153945727
Forgot pic.

>>153945836
Thanks doc

>>153945818
And hen Whis gets away with everything, getting to live and not having to deal with the consequences of his actions.

>>153945792
It was but since goku already went it his normal state actually got a significant powerup so he's way stronger in SSB and Vegeta has been shown to be stronger than goku in SSB especially in the black arc.

Shin and Beerus are like an old married couple.

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>>153945643
Botamo is like Buu's counterpart kinda and absorbs physical damage, while Magetta is just really tough, Vegeta just didn't want to waste Blue on that stupid junk

>>153945818
Whis has been telling Beerus all along that he's doing a shit job. Beerus doesn't heed his warnings, that's on him. Whis is his attendant, not his employer or parent.

This should be a wake-up call for Beerus.

>>153945818
In the manga its explained the Gods of Creation are supposed to keep the peace and generally allow species develop on their own.

Gods of Destruction are supposed to Off species or whatever when 'evil' goes un-checked.

In other words Beerus should have killed Freiza, the Saiyans would be alive and the power-level of U7 would be alot higher.

>>153945962
>Letting Saiyans live
Are you retarded the only good Saiyans were Goku and Vegeta everyone else was shit
Frieza did the universe a favor by wiping them out

>>153945962
>Saiyans would be alive

Wouldn't Beerus also destroy Saiyans then? They were spacefaring warmongers even before Frieza found them.

Also U6 Kaioshin clearly does his job better - his Frieza and Saiyans aren't as bad their U7 counterparts

>>153945962
>Gods of Destruction are supposed to Off species or whatever when 'evil' goes un-checked.
>the Saiyans would be alive

Freeza was in property management. He sold planets to people and we can only assume they put those planets to good use.

Saiyans were just fucking raiders and bandits. They were more chaotic without him.

>>153946059
>They were spacefaring warmongers
No If Freiza didn't give them technology they would be stuck on their planet fighting each other

So has anyone else brought up that Zeno is an allegory for us, the audience.

We enjoy watching everyone fight, watching them struggle and beat the crap out of each other. Further, whether or not we find that fighting entertaining and keep watching decides whether or not the universe continues to exist or the show gets cancelled.

Anons, we are the Zenos.

>>153946149
Yeah we already know

>>153946059

It was mentioned Beerus gave destroying Planet Vegeta the go ahead.

Frieza knew Beerus.

If Frieza didn't do it, Beerus would've.

>>153946128
Vegeta wasn't their home planet. They had other planet before they destoryed it. It was before Frieza discovered them on Vegeta

>>153946149
>Zamasu arc dragged on for too long and got retarted
>Zamasu got deleted
Yeah, it checks out.

>>153946149
>Zeno is a manchild who needs the entire universe to bend over backward for him else he will throw a tantrum
What did they mean by this?

>>153943241
I don't know I really like this interaction and outcome. Now finally those Gods jobs make sense to me.

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>>153943241

Well you see; he was totally counting on this next universal tournament to be an edition of "Top Chef"; after millennia of selective pressures from the Beerus, God of Destruction, his universe has by far the best cooking.

>>153943572
Isn't universe merged Zamasu basically Thanos with the Heart of Universe? Nigh omnipotent, only below One-Above-All aka Zeno-sama.

>Basil losing to Buu without doing any damage to him
>Buu is literally SS3 level
>Next guy is even weaker but spits poison lul

If Gohan wasn't literal shit that couldn't even go SS without being beaten, blinded and poisoned first, he would've mopped the floor with Lavenda.

Are Beerus and Kaioshin gonna learn from this situation?

Yes or no?

>>153946189
Uh no that was a GT retcon and GT isn't canon anymore

>>153944519
Where the fuck is The Devil Man

>>153946220
No

>>153946220
Hell no.

>>153946218
Very good way to put it really.

>>153946228
Lmfao that was Super during the U6 arc

>>153946228
It was mentioned in DBS that their home planet is planet Sadla

>>153946252
>>153946258
Why not?

>>153943805
There is probably atleast one universe there were all the people merged into one or at least everything but a few selected god tier civilizations got erased. (Maybe that's the creepy guy in the cape?)

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>>153946211

>>153946266
>>153946263
When?

>>153946292
When Vegeta talked with Cabba after their fight

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>>153946149
Yes.

>>153943898
I like that Shin finally found some guts to shittalk Beerus back in this episode. He was just pathetic before.

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>Universes have been ranked
>U7 is 2nd from last

But who is #1 Mr. Krabs?

>>153946274
Beerus isn't going to learn anything unless he loses which is not going to happen since he has Goku on his team
Shin is probably going to try and improve for a couple of years before giving up