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Every JUMP series since 2010, with how long it ran.

2016 wasn't as bad as I thought. Look at 2014. That's a lot cancellations.
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>>153896388
>Nisekoi lasted 5 years

Jesus
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>>153896388
iShoujo is over already? I remember first chapter scans + translations here.

Also you missed Best Blue in 2015
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>>153896388
I wish there was a group that scanlated these short cancelled series of jump
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>>153896553
It transferred to Jump+
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>>153896388
>2017
We Never Learn, Poro and RxL will be canceled soon after first release. I feel it.
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2010 and 2011 were horrible. At least it had based Enigma
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>>153896388
Could you color them differently?
(Also does the week count count skipped weeks or Hiatus time?)

Are there there many series from before 2010 that are still running?

Ran:
[0,13]
]13,26]
]26,39]
]39,52]
]52,78]
]78,104]
]104,156] 2y+ (2 full years + a few weeks)
]156,208] 3y+
]208,260] 4y+
5y+
6y+
7y+
The rest.
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>>153896388
I liked St&rs and Kurogane.
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>>153896388
Also: 2016 is not fully above the 52 weeks mark, so we'll see about cancellations.

I also guess that we'll get at least 2-4 new series this year in addition.
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>>153897057
this is from a twitter user, I just found it. so i don't know if it counted skipped weeks. maybe someone here can tell?
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2016 has been indeed the second best year for Jump.

>2010: Nothing
>2011: Nisekoi
>2012: Best year (Assasination Classroom, Saiki, Haikyuu, Shokugeki)
>2013: World Trigger
>2014: Hero Academia and Hinomaru
>2015: third best year maybe: Black Clover, Sesuji, Samon-kun
>2016: Kimetsu no Yaiba, Yuuna-san, Promised Neverland
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>>153896388
> on hiatus
Every time.
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>>153896388
So which of the 2017 series will fall into:
less than 1/4 year
1/4 to 1/2 year
1/2 to 3/4 year
3/4 to 1 year
?
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>>153896388
Well what do you expect from a company that desperately wants another DBZ?
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>>153897135
You kind of have to count them, since they are weeks the manga survived cancellation (except for mangas that are currently in Hiatus).

>>153897165
We'll talk when 2016 series have hit the 52 week mark.

Yuuna will probably manage. I don't care about the other two.
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>>153897213

Anon, Neverland and Yaiba are safe from axe. Yuuna would be the manga with more cancelation chances but is selling well, so I don't see the axe for any of these 3 mangas
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>>153896388
Man I really liked St&rs. There needs to be more fantasy space exploration with grounded realistic elements like that. elDIVE is sort of similar but is more typical battle shonen.

St&rs was fun and had a lot of mystery.

Jump currently feels like they are flinging shit at the wall and seeing what sticks, do they really know how to quality control to bring on good new series consistently?
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>>153897179
Poro, U19, and RxL will fall before 20 weeks.

Marie might take a little longer because >Beelzebub.

WNL might survive the longest because of the Nisekoi gap.

Dr. Stone no idea.
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Takuan and Batsu's demon diary got axed (that soon?) Damn.

SJnips sure do have shit taste. It would be interesting to compare such a chart with Shonen Sunday.
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Is any of the 2017 ones any good?
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>>153897165
I would disagree about 2015 being the third best year, I would say the 3rd best year is 2014.
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>>153897323
Takuan was horrible, it pained me to read 3 chapters.
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>>153897336
So far, not really. Maybe the final 2 will be good.
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>>153897284
>Jump currently feels like they are flinging shit at the wall and seeing what sticks
They're just desperate, because with the end of Naruto and Bleach, only One Piece can keep them afloat.

They can keep on surviving with sales like Haikyuu's, WT's, Hero Academia's or Souma's, but they need urgent a new big brand to cover the gap that was left open.
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>>153896909
>RxL
>Getting cancelled
Are you high
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>>153897360
They will make Boruto a weekly mark my words!
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>>153897360
But was Bleach even moving magazine sales anymore anyway? I don't know the numbers, but I remember it being medium to medium low in rankings pretty consistently in the past years.

They are definitely feeling the hurt after Naruto's ending, but instead of scrambling to find a replacement and failing repeatedly, there should be some sort of open guidance and quality guidelines set for newcomers that isn't so strict on outdated audience wants. I also personally think Jump should open its boundaries a little bit more in regards to what it allows in terms of stories and such as its become too sterile for authors to grow in their art or storytelling without having to hit very cliche and boring story elements.

I'm not suggesting that Jump become seinen or anything, but perhaps a bridge between shonen and seinen without stepping into that territory.
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>>153897513
>even moving magazine sales anymore anyway
It wasn't, but that's not the point. Jump doesn't need "sales", they need "names".
Bleach as a brand, was (worldwide) way more famous and important than any other Jump's good sellings series.
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How long do you think Neverland will survive?

I've got a feeling Kimetsu is more safe for some reason.
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>>153897575
Yeah that is a valid point.
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>>153897668
Depends on how interesting the outside world will be assuming they escape in the next 100 chapters.
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>>153896388
>Every single soccer manga has short life.
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>>153897770
In WSJ at least.
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>Boku no Hero Academia came out 3 years ago.
I still feel like nothing has happened.

What the fuck.
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>>153897770
not the same magazine but Days is doing well, got an anime and everything.
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>>153897835
Giant Killing is another one that's doing well in another magazine.
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I mean this sucks.
Everybody here liked his stuff and he thinks he's no good because he got canceled. I kind of want to tell him that is just Jump's stupid system that gets everyone canceled.
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wait what? Straighten Up! fucking ended??
fuck, I was waiting for an anime.
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I split the first year in 1/4's.
Marked 1y+ series and longer ended runners separately.
Hiatus got dotted line.
I also categorized the 2016 series.
Yuna/yaiba has currently 51 chapters. Neverland has below 26. But they probably had skipped weeks too.
So yuna/yaiba are probably 1y+, and Neverland 1/2y but less than 3/4's.

Longer ongoing got violet.
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>>153896388
>Straighten up!
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>>153897974
2014 still looks like the worse jump year
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>>153896388
What do you guys think about the kids reading this magazine, seeing these series come and go? They must be pretty jaded by now.
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>>153898048
>not 2010
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>>153898084
there are 12 cancellations in 2014 vs 7 (less than year ones) in 2010
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>Kiruko

It still hurts
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Do they really decide what to axe based on people sending that voting thing like they showed in Bakuman? How many votea do they even receive? I can't imagine more than like 500.
And they probably all come from autists who send it every week.
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>>153897165
Nah that 2014. You do know that TPN,KnY and Yuurigi is nothing on BnHA right? That shit is both High Seller and Top Ranker when started.
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>>153898112
yes so? 2010 only had 8 serializations and 2014 has 2 that broke 2+ years
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>>153897974
Missing Series:
((Kochira Katsushika-ku Kameari-kōen Mae Hashutsujo Osamu Akimoto 1976/#42 until 2016))
One Piece Eiichirō Oda 1997/#34
(Hunter × Hunter Yoshihiro Togashi 1998/#14; Hiatus)
Gintama Hideaki Sorachi 2004/#2
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>>153898245
>(Hunter × Hunter Yoshihiro Togashi 1998/#14; Hiatus)
does that even count? he is more time in hiatus than on the damn magazine.
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>>153898178
Volume-Sales, Merchandising, Anime-sales, Marketability, ...
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>>153898264
Still running.

I wasn't aware that they lost Kochi-kame though?
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>>153898245
The list is from things that started in 2010 till now. OP and HxH started way before that.
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>>153898276
it can't be volume sales for starters bc the volumes are not even out when they decide to cancel them.
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>>153898293
It ended after 40 years
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>>153898245
>Every JUMP series since 2010
>since 2010
>Can't even read the first line in the OP
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>>153897817
I thought it started out interesting.

It's really fucking slow though. It bores me to tears now. Then again, they kind of blew their load on UNITED STATES OF SMASH
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>>153898178
Votes, Editor's Opinions, Volume Sales(probably the biggest factor as it is Voting with Money instead of just sending in a postcard), Merchandise sales, Anime Potential.

At the end of the day, I think Volume Sales is the most important, but I think they should be prioritizing a GOOD STORY over marketability as marketability will come naturally if you have a good product.

You can see just how much they tried to force Toriko to become popular and how quickly they axed it when it slipped.
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>>153896388
>mfw fucking SWOT got 20 chapters and Ole Golazo gets 13

SWOT is literally the worst manga I've EVER read and it got 7 more chapters to live. What the FUCK.
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>>153896388
>>153896909

how many of the 2017 came out already? all?
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>>153898441
No, we haven't got Dr Stone and RxL yet
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>>153896388
So 2012 was pretty much gold, 3 ongoing series and AssClass ended properly.
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>>153897974
Yaiba probably has an anime in the planning stages judging by how much jump is promoting it. They need something aside from black clover to promote this year and it's been doing really well. Yuna looks like it's on the chopping block and zumo is heading toward a natural end unless there's an anime in the works that we don't know about. Neverland looks like jumps best shot at a naruto like success so you can bet at that one surviving for a long time unless something happens to make everyone hate it
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>>153898355
I still think it's interesting.
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>>153898504
>Yuna on the chopping block

Are you high or just dumb?
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>>153898048
2014 had Academia an Zumo, so fuck off.
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I still don't get what the deal is with zumo. It's been running for 3 years and there's still no anime. Why? The sales aren't even that bad
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>>153896388
>Oumagadoki Zoo
>Magico
>Ole Golazo
bring them back
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>>153898060
The kids probably love being the judge, jury, and executioner of these series.
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>>153898536
I haven't been paying too much attention to it. Has it been doing that well?
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>>153897817
>nothing has happened

Also, it only feels like Cross Manage got cancelled last year. Holy shit the years are starting to speed past me.

Also Akaboshi should have been a Naruto Tier success. Amano will never get a break.
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I miss Hungry Joker.
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>>153898622
Yes. It's been doing great.
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>>153898300
That is kind of the point of that list.

To list current long-runners that are not covered by the graphic.
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>>153898591
There's probably not enough interests by other potential sponsors for it. Or the market analysts have determined that there's currently no desire for it.
Or sometimes, the companies do want to make an anime for it, but red tape and long drawn out negotiations between the companies can cause the project to simply take far longer in the planning stage. Or the yakuza who always supplement those anime productions as minority sponsors that you don't really want to piss off nonetheless are being extra annoying and threatening to cause a scandal and ruin the reputation of the big established companies.

In short, business problems as usual.
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>>153898336
I made the color-anotated version of the graphic and listed still-running series that are not in the graphic to complement it.
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>>153898363
>Volume Sales(probably the biggest factor as it is Voting with Money instead of just sending in a postcard)
"Do they actually buy it?" is probably a good metric.
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>>153898388
No series acts in a vacuum.
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>>153897205
2 series of their already surpassed it, slam dunk and one piece, they just chase the next big thing, not looking for another dbz.
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>>153898504
>Yuna looks like it's on the chopping block
I hope not.

Is it doing well?
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>>153898363
>>153898785

But this:
>>153898324
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>>153897360
haikyu's bigger than bleach
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>>153898828
Doesn't change the fact that it is a good metric once volumes are out.
(Do they count full-price sales vs discount-sales?)
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>>153898605
That's pretty much the definition of being jaded.
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>>153898822
It is, actually.
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>>153898324
they probably do predictions on how well things will sell, i mean if no one's voting for it, then why would anyone buy a volume
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>>153898388
ole golazo got only 12
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Hungry Joker had so much potential.
I'm still mad it when the way it did.
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>>153898600
>Oumagadoki Zoo
that's impossible now for obvious reasons
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>>153898955
i'm mad they canceled Red Sprite, I was really liking it
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>Gakkyu Hotei.
I nearly finished that crap too.

I read Cyborg Roggy for a little and it seemed pretty good.
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>>153897575
I feel like you're overestimating how much they care about international audiences, otherwise they wouldn't have let Bleach or even the less popular Toriko rush into ending given their Western followings.
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>>153896388
I miss Kiruko
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>>153898955
Magico is what pisses me off
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>>153899020
that one got killed by introducing that awful new character, turns out fans didn't like seeing ntr-bait.
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>>153896388
Looks like the average lifespan is 30 weeks?
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>>153898924
Too embarassed too fill out the questionaire but still buying the volumes?

How does that work?
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>>153899014
Don't they get overseas profits too?

They could always push a series into Jump+ though.
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>>153899132
embarrassed by what?
more like lazy

>>153899156
Soul Catcher(s) went to another of their magazines i think.they prob see some money from viz digital WSJ too. and from volumes ofc.
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>>153899084
More like: Making it to 1year is already the cream.
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>>153899180
Bakuman had a page why To LOVE-ru got less ratings but still had good volume sales.
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>>153899156
They do, but only a fraction since whoever's localizing and translating the works gets a piece of the pie. That and the highest-selling manga in America, Naruto only sold 500,000 copies of its first volume in 10 years time, while Naruto could sell 1,500,000 copies of any volume in a year in Japan.
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>>153899242
these numbers are from?
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>>153899242
Yeah but you gotta remember that Manga costs much more in the states than Japan

It's like 2 dollars vs 10
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>>153899211
This is the exact same situation with Yuna-san right now. It gets middling ratings but ranks high on the tankoubon sales charts. The uncensored tits in tankoubon also plays a huge part.
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>>153899242
>America
See, the problem is the Asian market is much more lucrative for manga etc.
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>>153899132
Isn't the voting is done digitally for quite a while now? That should make ecchi series like Yuuna fare better.
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>>153899258
i recognize the 500k figure from mangahelpers few months back, but that guy didn't post a source, so it's second-hand unsourced numbers.
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>>153899377
can i vote too?
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Christ, the only place more cutthroat than Jump seems to be television. Imagine getting cancelled after 1 chapter.
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>>153899307
Other Asian markets also have their own companies doing localizations.
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>>153899400
you can on the american one at least
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On a funny note, how competent are the publishers in your respective countries concerning Shonen Jump?

Here in Germany I keep seeing books coming out that are eventually axed a couple of issues later. They pick all the shit that's "fresh&new in japan", but can't really foretell if it will be an ongoing hit.
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>>153899242
yeah but naruto and bleach were bigger hits with their anime in the states, actually everything's anime is bigger. they must have made millions off of bleach's anime and licensing.
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>>153899476
here i read niggerstream
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>>153899476
reminds me of how viz shonen jump has a terrible track record of picking up manga from their japanese counterpart, they've chosen 8 doomed series so far.
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>>153896909
Poro really sucks so I wouldn't doubt it.
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>>153899423
Yuna isn't on the american one, is it?

>>153899242
>>153899263
They probably get more per volume sale from Americans.

I wonder how much.

There's also France, Italy and Germany too.
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>>153896909
But We Never Learn is good. U19 will get cancelled before it.
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>>153899701
>more per volume sale
No, they don't. Most of it will go to the American publishing firms themselves.
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>>153899476
But it seems the German market can sustain that strategy because they find enough buyers.

Manga is a long-tail market.
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>>153899527
>reminds me of how viz shonen jump has a terrible track record of picking up manga from their japanese counterpart
They even dropped Samon.

They should just copy the Japanese strategy and do at least 10 chapters of each series.
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St&rs dude cancellation worked well for him
he he helped making all you need is kill manga
and currently doing the fujosbait Sherlock manga

both are very popular
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>>153899734
Honestly everything except RxL will get cancelled quickly. Marie might make it but genderbending stuff never does well in jump
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>>153899527
they always preview the 1st 3 chapters of all of the manga, independently if they continue or not.
what are the 8? I can only remember Red Sprite and ubermale gene one
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>>153899790
I can already tell Robot is going to be shit desu.
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>>153899839
Why because golf is boring? The kurobas author is good and has been wanting to do this series for years.
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>>153899799
barrage
cross manage
hi-fi cluster
love rush
red sprite
gakkyu hotei
stealth symphony
takamagahara
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>>153899852
Because it's going to be fujoshit so blatant it will make Semen Demon Porno look downright heterosexual.
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>Ole Golazo axed
Quarterly reminder that WSJ is total shit, eh?
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>>153896388
Still pissed the Omagadoki Zoo got cancelled. It was everything I wanted in a Shounen Jump title.

MHA just isn't the same.
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>>153900639
What gets me is how fucking depressed his comment was. He's always been so damn upbeat before and this one reads like the beginning of a suicide note. If he gets a chance to do a different series later, I'll definitely be supporting him.
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>>153899476
Only already established series make it, from what I've seen. BC got licensed not long ago, for example.
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>>153899769
Everyone thought that series was gonna get the axe, so I don't blame them. Plus they don't seem too keen on picking up gag manga.
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>>153902046
How is it still surviving? Sales are shit, rankings were shit and are back to lower-middle now, and judging by Pixiv and Twitter, it's got no fandom to speak of.
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>>153902102
I dunno man. It's probably the same mystical force that kept Saiki alive in its earlier days.
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>SWOT and Lock On were 7 years ago

What am I doing with my life? It was only yesterday I was making for of those manga
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>>153902186
>It was only yesterday I was making for of those manga
what did eh mean by this?
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>>153897728
I imagine the escape will start happening within the next 10 chapters so it doesn't drag out, and from there we'll get a lot of exposition on the state of the world.
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>>153902046
How are they so shit at picking stuff for the magazine.

Afraid of damaging licensing properties?
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2013 seems to be the most forgettable year. Say what you will about all the other years, at least I recognize the names of the cancelled series.
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Covers from WSJ featuring the most recent manga series.
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Red Sprite Volume 1 Cover
It looks badass.
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>>153906129
I honestly thought that it was going to survive
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>>153906391
Me too. The premise was pretty good.
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Please come back World Trigger.
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>>153906677
Has there been any word from Ashihara since?
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>>153906792
Not that I know of. I hope they manage to fix his back problems and don't just give him medication for the symptoms again, even though that might be the only realistic way.
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>>153907035
Jump should get an ergonomy division.
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>>153896601
Yeah, I wish Viz leaned more into those, but instead they just try to second guess them by only showing 3 chapters of each of them and only continuing with the ones that seem popular
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>>153908255
By that logic they could even continue a series JUMP has axed.
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>>153908480
I wonder if that could ever happen.
They do take their own surveys, I wonder if there would be a modern manga series that gets the axe in Jump that Viz gets to keep going because it gets poor ratings in Japan but tops the charts here.
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>>153908706
It would need to be some kind of hypermainstream-sensation that everyone talks about. Not just manga readers, but something that would actually get mentioned in the news.
Really really doubtful for that to happen.
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>I haven't caught up/finished Seshiji o Pin! since learning that it ended some weeks ago

>Pretty sure it ended by now

How did it end guys?

Did Watari and Panda boy Tsuuchi win the dance championship and happily married soon after?
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i wonder what the all-time shortest run for a manga in jump is ?
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>>153908785
Well either way they should start picking up some more, this week's issue only has five ongoing titles in it and the rest are jump starts.
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>>153896909
>We Never Learn
That one must fail just for the joke.
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>>153908963
Scans haven't covered the ending yet, but the tournament is over and the midgets lost despite unleashing their secret technique. The scene was super hype though.
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>>153909170
the lowest in this chart is 10 weeks.
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>>153904630
I think they pick based off "popular" demand and whichever one looks like it has the most potential to succeed.

At least they got Neverland right.
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>>153909704
They use weekly survey data, just like the real thing!
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>>153906129
>we will never know if Mono was a boy or a girl
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>>153910094
it was a girl, she grans her own boobs in one panel.
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>>153896388
So, Gintama is the last manga of the generation 2000-2009, and OP with HxH still dont end
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How many Jump manga only drag on because of international sales?

Was there ever a Big O S2 type situation
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>>153910094
grill
I have no idea why I still have this.
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>>153910038
1/10 for all.
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>>153896388
>Jaco the galactic patrolman

Wasnt he in DBS?
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>>153911778
Yeah, but he was his own one shot first.
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>>153896388
jump has the worst editiors
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>>153896601
why? so you can be pissed off at their non endings?
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>>153913811
I like the ones that do a sudden time skip as if to say "look at all the stuff you missed out on"
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>>153897770
>>153897835
>>153897842
Is there a reason we're not mentioning the elephant in the room? There's also Mai Ball, Area no Kishi, that Aoyama-kun thing that's getting an anime, etc.
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>>153913875
I remember Stealth Symphony doing that after revealing all the stuff it had planned within a span of three chapters
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Cancellation/natural ending prediction pool:

One Piece: will run for another 10+ years
Haikyuu: will run for another 5 years and die a a natural death
MHA: will run for another 6-7 years and die a natural death
Black Clover: will run for another 7 years and die a natural death
Nevarland: will run for another 5 years and die a natural death
Samon-kun: will keep running forever as part of Numa Shun's pact with the devil
Yuuna: will keep running for another 3 years probably
World Trigger: will migrate to Jump SQ
Soma: will keep running for another 3 years and die a natural death
Zumou: will keep running for another 3 years and be granted leniency for a natural death
Gintama: will end late 2017/early 2018
We can't study: cancelled
U19: cancelled
Poro: cancelled
Marie: survives 2017
Spring Weapon: cancelled
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>>153914463
those are too many natural deaths, Black Clover will prob descend into train reck eventually and be cancelled like Bleach
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>>153908963
>>153909619

Watari is such a cute and good girl
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>>153914716
I don't know. With its dumb pacing it could easily end naturally in 3 years and fill in all the plot points.
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>>153914463
Pretty decent list.
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>>153910505
bleach maybe? it got awful rankings for its last 5 years but still chugged along for those 5 years
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>>153914463
Zumo is already heading toward a natural end now though
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>>153914463
Saiki might be ending soon. Naturally of course since Jump wouldn't cancel a manga that still has a live-action movie adaptation plus a second season for the anime. Both of the main romances have gotten a lot of development in the past year like how Saiki went ouph, I can't read the raw but it seems like Kaido and Chiyo finally got together within the last month.
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>>153915415
Was there any progression besides that one "offu"?
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>>153914463

My bets:

One Piece: will run for another 10-15 years, ye.
Haikyuu: I'll give it 2-3 more years. Running 7-8 years is already long for a manga and it looks Haikyuu is entering in the final arc being in the main tournament (same stuff happened with Kuroko). My bet is that Haikyuu is going to be the next big manga to finish after Shokugeki in end of 2018 or in 2019 first half (not counting Gintama).
MHA: 5 years. Horikoshi said the manga was at the 20% or something similar
Black Clover: It can be the longest running manga here not counting One Piece. If Jump allows it, it can survive +10 years with bullshits like Fairy Tail/Bleach
Neverland: 3 more years is my bet. It gives me the Psyren/Enigma vibe, both of them runned until chapter 150 more or less
Samon-kun: dunno
Yuuna: something similar to Black Clover but in lesser degree. 5 years maybe?
World Trigger: God, I hope it migrates
Shokugeki: I bet it will finish in 2018. When Souma enters in Elite 10 (he has very huge chances now), it will mean is the beginning of the end. Hell, I can even see it finishing at end of this 2017.
Zumou: I see it finishing this year or beginning of next year. Same sensations as Haikyuu, only difference is things are moving way faster in Hinomaru.
Gintama: Sorachi already said it is finishing this year.
We Can't Study: I see it reaching chapter 90-100 but ending there.
U19: Cancelled.
Spring Weapon: Cancelled.
Poro: Cancelled in chapter 40.
Marie: I can see it running for 6-7 years.

I repeat again. Personal bets based in years:
2017: Gintama, Hinomaru
2018: Shokugeki, Neverland (in late 2018), maybe Haikyuu
2019: Haikyuu
2020: maybe Hero Academia and Yuuna
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>>153915567
I'm not sure, I only look in at the raws sporadically since I don't want to spoil myself too much before the scans catch up.
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>>153899527
They try to make things up with some monthly titles like Blue Exorcist, Seraphim, and misc. ones like One Punch Man and RWBY. But yeah, they need work.
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>>153899790
When was the last Jump gender bender? Pretty Face?
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>>153916020
>Raku
What? When?
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>>153915415
>Kaido and Chiyo got together
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>>153916238
PS Vita game.
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>>153916354
Oh, I see. Thanks.
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>>153909170
Pretty sure the record is 8 weeks.
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>>153915567
Saiki's grandma is shipping him with Gyaru and tsundere granpa is shipping him with Teruhashi-san.
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>>153916315
I'm not sure, just the body language make me think so
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>>153916464
gyaru will be getting with the ghost guy by the end i just know it
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>>153916702
Should I read Saiki?
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>>153916770
Watch the anime then read the manga.
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I feel like Gintama won't really end until 2018, Sorachi has spent the last 20 chapters only in the early stages of this final arc and letting the supporting cast feel useful. He hasn't even touched the Shinsengumi yet which should make up a good 20 chapters themselves and then there's Takasugi who's arc still needs closure, he's probably another dozen chapters, and Kamui too, etc.
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>>153916770
this basically.
>>153916844
the anime is pretty good and further ahead then the manga, but some jokes got cut out.
Anyway you can't go wrong eitherway,
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>>153916702
>gyaru will be getting with the ghost guy
she deserves better than that.
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>>153915130
Rankings were shit, but domestic sales were good.
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>>153899734
Is it? I was thinking of dropping it the second I saw they went full harem in 4 chapters. There isn't a Shuu-tier bro yet.
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>>153917179
Not really it is just your standard romcom you either love it or hate it.
new girl is pretty cute though too bad she'll never win since she is the osanajimi.
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goodnight the man
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>>153918077
RIP
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>>153918077
Will indeed miss
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>>153918077
You were too good for this magazine.
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>>153918077
Damn, I was rooting for it to survive despite never actually reading it.
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>>153918077
F
He was too good. I honestly expected it to rank around 7 or 8, and run for at least 30 chapters.
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>>153918836
You should have bought some.
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>>153919503
It wasn't even allowed to get one volume out before getting cancelled.
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>>153920053
You could have preordered.
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Which currently running series has the best romance in Jump? I'm almost tempted to say Haikyuu because at least that's real and cute, unlike OP delusions.
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>>153918077
join the club
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>>153921114
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>>153921114
Are there membership fees?
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>>153921180
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>>153921180
Is that Tokyo Ghoul?
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>>153916433
What was that?
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>>153921180
Man, Amalgam had pretty fantastic art, too bad most of the designs sucked, not to mention the edgy writing.
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>>153921247
Chagecha, a gag manga from the Bobobo creator. And it's only the record holder of modern times, there were several manga in the 60s or 70s that died in 3-5 weeks.
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>>153921264
There is a chance it will get better.
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>>153921347
you mean could have got better
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>>153921403
Reboot!
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>>153898293
It was a big deal, the first issue of Jump they ever reprinted

The author's now publishing four new series in other Shueisha magazines simultaneously
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>>153918077
Why Atletico Madrid?
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>>153920673
>Shonen Jump
>romance
Pick one
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>>153921554
Why not?
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>>153921347
>>153921403
I kinda liked that the ending with the tsundere girl, even if it was obviously rushed.
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>>153921557
didn't oda say this same thing
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>>153921612
It is cliche though.
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>>153921604
>2 team league

I wonder why
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>>153921713
I heard Las Vegas got an expansion team.
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>>153899790
>ywn get to read the triumphant long-awaited return of Hibari-kun
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>>153900958
>and this one reads like the beginning of a suicide note.
;_;

I wish I could write Nip so I could send him a fan letter
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>>153921844
Translate.
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>tfw nobody even remembers Lady Justice
Why did I have to be born an ENFfag
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>>153921844
>>153921908
Nips take English in school, right? So if you send him a thing in simple English, he should still be able to understand it.
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>>153922817
What if they are bad students?
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>>153922803
Well a bunch of the 2013-2014 creators just made their comebacks (with some of them getting cancelled again), so I'd give it another year for that author to come back
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>>153922937
Then there's no hope.
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>>153922956
Two years max.
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>>153896388
I made this a little while ago. It's kinda hard to read, I know, but it's meant to track the "cumulative years of history" in Jump at the end of each year. 2016 was fucking brutal in this regard, since the cut series were all fairly lengthy.

For purposes of clarity I didn't track anything which couldn't even hang in for a single year.
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>>153923042
I am in despair!
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>>153923193
And Gintama's out soon too which will take another half of the bar out, that said, all the real loss is really based around Kochikame
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>>153923343
Well, Bleach and Toriko combined for 23 years, too. But I think it's interesting how "young" jump became. The average age of series dropped by 50%, and you're right - soon, One Piece will be the only series that's even older than 2010. It'll become the new Kochikame, the never-ending outlier surrounded by a fleet of tiny, younger series.

Also, making this chart made me appreciate how abnormal the "big three" situation was. People talking about what's the next Big Three don't realize what they're talking about. Call me when you get another block of series running for 10+ years dominating the top of the same magazine at the same time.
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>>153923576
That won't last either.
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>>153923677
you mean One Piece? You don't think it won't hang on for as long as Oda wants? Certainly Jump is in no hurry to rush their biggest (in some ways even bigger than) hit since Dragonball. And the story isn't showing any signs of nearing a conclusion, either.
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>>153921624
Most Jump manga have a romance subplot. Almost every currently running series has one: MHA, Saiki, Black Clover, Samon, Neverland, Haikyuu, Soma.
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>>153923936
Bleach ended. One Piece won't last much longer.
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>>153924028
op has 10 years at least
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>>153924107
Want to bet?
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>>153923576
but people were calling them the big 3 before they reached 10 years, the term started in the west around 2005-2007 or so
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>>153896388
I was saddened to see what happened to Iron Knight, I thought the oneshot really had potential.
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>>153924255
Anon knows the deal.
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>>153924028
Bleach dropped out of the top of the ToC rankings sometime around when its anime ended, both of which happened years before the manga finally stumbled to an end. Its volume sales also took a hit, and the merchandise dried up. The declining popularity was obvious.

One Piece has come down from its insane boom in the early 2010's, but it's still the #1 manga around in every metric, printing money like nobody's business. The two aren't remotely comparable. OP's closest comparison would be Naruto, which ended while still at a relative high in popularity. But Naruto's story had been headed towards an ending, everybody knew it wasn't supposed to last much longer. That's not the case with One Piece, or at least the current arc is showing no signs at all of being climactic.

>>153924204
sure, I'll make a bet with an anonymous person on the internet and check up 10 years later, but first can you tell me why you think OP will end within that time period, besides "everything ends eventually"?
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>>153924204
op even after declining recently sells ~5x the amount bleach did after its decline, op hasn't left the top 4 rankings in 5 years while bleach survived in the bottom for its last 5 years, not comparable situations
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>>153898978
I'd rather have Oumagadoki Zoo than BnHA desu senpai.
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>>153924345
When you go from 38 down to 12 you don't care anymore. You start something new to get 39.
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>>153924387
you're not alone.
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>>153896388
World Trigger, Kimetsu and Samon are alright.
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>>153923965
What about that ecchi manga with the ghost girl? I thought that one was Jump's designated harem manga
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>>153924428
do you even read manga at all, let alone one piece? do you know nothing about the author? or shonen jump? or how the industry works?

Because let me get this straight - you think OP will end "soon", because Jump will not be satisfied with OP's industry-dominating sales, and want to re-create the unprecedented boom of 2011, so they cancel the most popular manga in the world, abandoning two decades of accumulated fans, and then have Oda start a NEW series and see if that can be more popular?

I mean, you must realize how insane that sounds, yes?
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>>153896451
TLR lasted 10 years and may be the "end" they announced it is only the beginning of the new phase
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>>153924028
>this nigga things bleach had shit on one piece in terms of popularity
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I think world trigger will get transferred out soon, having 2 series on hiatus just wreaks havoc on Jump's schedule, they already have to clear space every time Togashi decides to come back, and Ashihara does not have that leverage.

We know that Jump doesn't keep open vacancies for Hunter, they just fill its spot during hiatuses and cancel a manga for when it returns, I can't imagine them doing that for 2 series.
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>>153925003
not what I said at all
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>>153896388
Jump needs to ditch their practice of constant competition. It's not healthy for the business to constantly be wasting money on series they know are going to fail. At least base it more on sales instead of purely rankings.
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>>153896909
We never learn already looks to be on the path to failure. I hope Marie and dr.stone both succeed though, they have good names behind them to hype them up a bit.
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>>153897426
What is it even about? Is it a sports manga too or what?
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>>153925260
Yeah exactly.
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>>153897938
I wish they could put him in jump plus or something. They should do that with their more popular but lower ranking series.
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>>153925064
They should just do transfers more often. Last time they did that was with Soul Catcher(S) and iShojo, both were transferred out in the same round, and both lasted over 2 years because of that. Actually iShojo just had its 3rd anniversary earlier this month and is still alive and kicking.
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>>153899734
U19 is stupid fun and has some potential if they worldbuild up more, plus it's classic shonen like black clover.
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>>153907856
>you will never give happy ending massages to the tired mangaka at jump
Why live?
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>>153925390
>alive and kicking
Alive, sure, but both of them didn't exactly thrive. Soul Catcher(S) never passed 50k, and iShojo is sub-20k, it would have been more merciful to just axe them so their creators could be freed up to do something that has a shot at success.
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>>153897938
>The results of my check-up came in the mail. I'm obese

never change gorilla-san
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>>153922937
Send it anyway you faggot. Show him you care.
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>>153925390
This. I'd love if they promoted jump plus too, they could make an urasunday competitor.
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>>153925895
It will never happen.
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>>153921114
>we will never see the midgets git gud enough to try Latin
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>>153926243
How do you get the courage?
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>>153925895
young jump's digital site beats out urasunday doesn't it? maybe jump+ could piggyback off of it since they're under the same company umbrella. what's even the highest-selling urasunday manga?
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>>153926518
both tonarinoyj and urasunday have series rankings on their websites, why doesn't shonenjumpplus have that?
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>>153926518
Urasunday has sinbad and mob psycho both doing better than whatevers published on jumps online sites
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>>153926658
murata's version of one punch man is young jump web manga, much bigger than anything on urasunday
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>>153926405
It always starts with a simple leap of faith.
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>>153926820
That is dangerous.
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>>153926768
Oh right. Guess there's that
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>>153926768
Probably the biggest web manga ever
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>>153926980
Probably?
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>>153927073
I don't really know much about web manga or what is and isn't a web manga so I guessed
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>>153927194
Fair enough.
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>>153926768
Young jump and urasunday are owned by related companies, shonen jump is a different publisher.
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>>153927302
What difference does that make?
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>>153927302
every jump is owned by shueisha, urasunday is shogakukan
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>>153927372
Young jump is a seinen mag owned by a different company.
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>>153923193
>neuro was 11 years ago
Fuck me
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>>153927479
http://youngjump.jp/magazine/
http://www.tonarinoyj.jp/

owned by shueisha look at the bottom of the pages, there's the shueisha logo
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>>153927479
What's your point?
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>>153927479
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weekly_Young_Jump
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>>153927646
I don't trust wiki.
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>>153927612
it's even in english
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>>153927780
Obviously not.
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>>153927820
the logo i meant, young jump is clearly owned by shueisha, their official sites say so
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>>153927726
>>153927479
http://www.shueisha.co.jp/english/comics/
Autism
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>>153927941
Now it all makes sense!
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>>153923193
>Jaguar was around for about 9 years

Huh, I thought it was longer than that
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>>153929793
It seemed longer!
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Iron Knight got straight up fucked

Like, they really had something there and it got fucked in the ass
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>>153921331
i feel bad for sawai, he's like watsuki, only way for him to get anywhere is to ride on his old hit's coattails. sawai even did some moeblob manga that uses bobobo characters, just sad
>>
I'm probably the only one, but I liked Cross Manage. I also thought the HimeDoll one-shot had potential but the author and editors ruined it by deciding to turn it into a harem instead of an idol management manga.
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>>153930837
Yep. Only one.
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>>153897284
>Jump currently feels like they are flinging shit at the wall and seeing what sticks, do they really know how to quality control to bring on good new series consistently?
Why do retards keep saying this when there's more variety in Jump nowadays than there was a decade ago when there was nothing but battle shounen?
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>>153931152
No one wants variety.
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>>153897360
>They're just desperate, because with the end of Naruto and Bleach, only One Piece can keep them afloat.
Out of all of them only Naruto's ending affected sales.

>They're just desperate
Yeah the 1# manga magazine is desperate
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>>153931316
>Yeah the 1# manga magazine is desperate
Shrinking business.
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>>153897575
>Bleach as a brand, was (worldwide) way more famous and important than any other Jump's good sellings series.
Too bad it dropped in popularity to the point where nobody gave a shit. Also Bleach wasn't an instant hit and took years for it to gain popularity and lose it.
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>>153897817
>nothing has happened.
Lelouch still saying stupid shit
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>>153900639
Literally kill yourself. Stop pretending you gave a shit about it or supported
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>>153931506
That will change.
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>>153931152
7 battle manga - One Piece, Hunter, World Trigger, Hero Academia, Black Clover, Kimetsu no Yaiba, Boruto

5 comedy manga - Gintama, Saiki, Isobee, Samon, No.01

3 sports manga - Haikyu, Soma, Hinomaru

1 harem manga - Yuna

1 thriller manga - Neverland

This is excluding the 6 new series and ignoring that some are genre-hybrid, like WT could count as a sports series and Gintama has been in years of action arcs and is ending on an action arc too. Also cooking isn't a sport but I decided to count it as one here.
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>>153931380
every magazine is shrinking, it's the medium that's the problem, print is dying, that and aging demographics.

jump can't do anything about there being less kids around, but they've been making strides toward digital the past few years, it's just tradition combined with japanese stubbornness is making them slow to adapt to the obvious future.
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>>153931803
Too much battle.
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>>153931942
2 of them are on indefinite hiatus and 1 is monthly and 1 takes a break once a month, they're actually outnumbered by gag manga on most weeks.
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>>153925064
>Jump needs to ditch their practice of constant competition
Why? They have more new successful series output then anything else. You retards are just butthurt that your favorite series got axed too early. You want a Jump that does cancel manga? Sunday and even they realize how dated their system was and how theyve gain zero new artist in the magazine.
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>>153931803
with the 6 new manga, wsj is at 9 battle manga, 7 comedy manga, 4 sports manga, 2 harem manga, and 1 thriller manga
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>>153931803
>battle manga
>Kimetsu
>One Piece
>thriller manga
>Neverland
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>>153931803
>battle manga - One Piece, World Trigger, Kimetsu
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>>153932261
Google image search says that is "amen hallelujah peanut butter"
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>>153932374
To be clear I clicked it by accident.
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>>153918077
still pisses me off. I wanted to see more of his adventures with updo man.
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>>153918077
Damn...
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>>153931803
Hey...Hunter X Hunter's still running!
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>>153930585
I always wondered if that Don Patch spinoff was supposed to be a canon sequel or just an alternate storyline like Koro-Quest.
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>>153931316
Since 2008 they've been losing a lot of their big names >>153923193.
They still have the sellings, but they need new big brands for anime and merchandising.

Big name brands is what brings interest to their magazine, not the few chapters soon to be axed ones. Blech flopped hard, but it brought new, fresh people to know the name Shonen Jump.
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>>153932699
If you call that running.
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>>153932699
More like occasionally crawling a bit and then collapsing again.
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>>153934617
It can't be helped.
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Is that manga about the delinquent girl who was a idol and the mc was in like the hairstylist section of the scool still going? I seemed fun enough but I don't even remember the name.
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>>153934800
Can't help you with that.
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>>153915799
How fast is the scans though?
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>>153937179
It comes out at a rate of one to three chapters a week. We're almost halfway caught up.
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>>153937373
That pace won't last.
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>>153937496
I hope you're implying that it's about to speed up, but I have the feeling you mean the opposite
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>>153938210
It always gets slower.
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>>153924859
You're right, but it actually didn't have romance at the start.
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Samon might be ending this year too, latest raw introduced a new antagonist, which is strange since the last serious arc flopped, you'd think he would avoid going back to that well so soon, I think the author might have been given a deadline to finish by.
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>>153942027
I guess the pact with the devil had a time limit
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>>153942027
For fans the context is even more suspicious, this new bad guy is targeting Anri, and one of the 2 main plot threads of Samon is that Samon wants Anri to acknowledge his strength, this arc could finally resolve their relationship, as the narration said, this is the story of how Tesshi falls into hell and of how Samon and Anri stopped being a couple and became friends. This is Samon's whole motivation for being a summoner, if he successfully defends/saves her, Samon's character arc is completely wrapped up, and the only story left to tell would be Samon and Tesshi's relationship which can be done in an epilogue.
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>>153942340
Guess it's over then

RIP Samon and Hinomaru this round
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>>153942439
Not this round, Hinomaru has 2 more rounds of life, same for Samon, I don't think Jump is rushing them but just giving a deadline for them to work toward. Samon was gifted 2 color pages in a row to commemorate the start of this new arc, that's not something you do if you plan on rushing it.

And Hinomaru just started a match against his biggest rival, the last match he had was 16 chapters long and wasn't rushed at all, he even used the past 2 weeks just setting up for the final match, the pacing is actually slow.
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>>153897165
>Sesuji
Don't remind me.
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>>153925064
Why? Evolutionary pressure is not a bad thing.
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>>153931803
If gaming is a sport nowadays, cooking should be too.
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>>153942439
R.I.P. Saiki.
;_;
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>>153932261
>>153932310
You could argue early Kimetsu wasn't a battle manga, but ever since Zenitsu and Inosuke arrived it's clearly a battle shonen now. We just got a few training chapters recently.
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will they ever officially cancel HxH?
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>>153944219
No
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>>153944442
will people born in 2017 get to see the ending of HxH?
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>>153923193
yeah that's a lot o long running series
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>>153914463
>Zumou: will keep running for another 3 years and be granted leniency for a natural death

this is already heading towards its ending
unless the author forces Hinomaru to fail in becoming a pro and repeating the entire thing as a second year high school student

which I highly doubt since there's no way the bad sales and meh rankings can keep it alive for another 15 volumes
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>>153942027
Source for the raw?
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>Kagamigami
>40 weeks
This will never not upset me, The tournament arc had some huge potential as well.

I wonder how it felt to compete against Black Clover and see that succeed ;_;
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>>153948050
It can't be helped.
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Is the spoiler for U19 out yet?
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>>153947894
you can find all WSJ japan in nyaa just search.
they are the digital versions so they are really clean.
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>>153948958
I already know about that and use it, tomorrow's issue isn't up there.
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>>153944057
Don't you make jokes like that.
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>>153896388
>love rush axed after 12 weeks as the absolute shit it was

Feels good
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>>153949525
it was the first harem i read, i didn't thought it was bad. but i don't read or watch harem.
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>>153896388
Let's just say that you won a contest and now you are allowed to revive one axed series from WSJ which one would you choose?
Hard mode no double arts or Mx0
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>>153949647
Takuan, no doubt.
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>>153949647
Red Sprite but I didn't read many of the canceled ones.
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>>153949451
It finally got an anime and a consistent source of updates, so I wouldn't even be mad if it decided to enter its final arc.

Can't say the same for Sesuji or Samon.
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>>153949720
i read 3 chapters of that, the characer designs were ugly their heads were so big. the story was generic, and the ecchi scenes were super forced.
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>>153949720
>>153949720
Oh yeah I totally forgot about that one.
I miss buttsu too, it didn't even pull a kiruko to keep me from missing it, but oh well.
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>>153949548
Trust me, harems are usually shit, but anything else was better than that. I'm glad even the japs understood that.
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>>153896388
has anything from a shonen magazine was ever transfered to a seinen magazine?
like from WSJ to young jump?
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>>153951343
Jojo is an easy one.
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>>153896388
>Ole Golazo axed
I hope that fatty korean dictator nukes Japan to oblivion.
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>>153949790
I skimmed through the oneshot and the art looked a bit better than it did in the serialization.
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>>153896388
>Love Rush
>The next Nisekoi they said
I was actually kinda sad it got axed
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>>153942027
Raw pls
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Has Samon been getting constant translations?
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>>153953467
nope
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>>153953467
60 out of 70 chapters were translated in the archive but not typeset
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>>153953527
Thanks guys.
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>>153953575
So you will typeset?
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>>153954036
Sorry, but no.
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Waiting for the Neverland translations is suffering.
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>>153955220
it's ok at least they will escape in like 50 chapters
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>>153955312
Author confirmed in an interview that they'll wrap up the escape arc by end of volume 4. Volume 4 should be chapter 34, thats only 7 chapters until they escape.
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>>153955676
i hope it won't go to shit in the outside world
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>>153921557
Actually this

Its extremely hard to find a straight forward shonen romance (at least a good one) and the ones that do usually fall into one of two categories

1) it eventually turns into to a love triangle, then a full blown harem which intern any previous about the romance element simply devolve into another "best gurl" fight.

2) the actually romance element is shuffled to the end of the line and only pops up every dozen of chapters or so at best.
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>>153951343
Beshari-Gurashi
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>>153954036
Isn't the anon who works on Sesuji typesetting this?
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>>153956464
I believe that anon is waiting on more polished translations since the ones from the archive aren't straight JP > Eng TLs.
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>>153955707
Same here. Not sure how they're gonna pull it off but I can't wait to find out
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>>153920673
>Haikyuu
>romance

Only if you're talking about gay romance?
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>>153955676
Do you have a link to the interview?
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>>153942439
>Hinomaru this round

Hinomaru has good rankings so it isn't going anywhere until it gets it's anime by toei and revives the sumo industry.
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>>153960091
This.
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>>153896388

I grew up on 90's jump, but damn none of this shit looks appealing
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