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What's it gonna take for Subaru to stop being a fucking idiot and just admit Rem is his true love?!

Also, WN discussion. Is WN completely canonical?
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WN is the source material. Seems like it should be the most canon.
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>>153887354
So is Re: Zero a book first? Then it became a manga, and then there was a anime adaptation? I'm confused about what the origin of the story is.

Also, sometimes the WN reads like fanfic. That's why I ask the question.
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By the way Remon is done.


The hidden village Oni sisters EX blessing day
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1EzVpRXcKGB2LOZvKLe4PdQfLVT-q9IeIXr6dsKg5lZE/edit

Roswaal is surprisingly caring for Ram.
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>>153887417
WN > LN > Anime > Manga
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>>153887417

Web novel is the original, which is adapted into the light novel.
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>>153887417

LNs aren't exactly known for being a particularly high-brow type of literature either.
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>>153881112
That's speculation.

One of the (more knowledgeable) characters assumes as much, but it's not confirmed.
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>>153887452
>>153887533
I have no clue what a light novel is. I know what a WN is, but not a LN.
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>>153887426
Thank you
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>>153887673

A light novel is an actual book, a web novel is published online for free.
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>>153887426
Is it Ram time?
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>>153887426
>Roswaal is surprisingly caring for Ram

Bullshit
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Every thread until Rem wakes up.
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>>153887714
Ah, so then the LN is more conical than the WN? It sounds to me like the WN is just a rough draft and open to revision, where as the LN is closer to the finalization.
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>>153887426
Fuck this chapter
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>>153887426
>Roswaal actually being nice to Ram

Has hell frozen over?

>[Ram: Hold onto me gently, and please bring me to the mansion. ――The next request will happen there.]

And now I'm pissed off
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>>153887762
Just because he is more concerned for Keikaku than anything else doesn't mean he can't care for them.

He was happy to give Ram a wish on what she wanted, because it's rare of her to do so. And takes time off his schedule to go clean up the tomb from Rem and Ram's village, out of his own volition.

He may throw everyone under the bus if needs be, but otherwise he is still plenty human.
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Just finished Episode 13. I don't think I fully understood Subaru's psyche until now. If he had been more NEET, he would've had too little ego and self-esteem to have willfully dug himself as deep into the stupid pit as he did. If he'd been less of a NEET, he would've had a more realistic grasp of his own abilities and maybe joined the fucking kendo club or something instead of doing radio calisthenics in his goddamn room.

He's like the ultimate cancer; riding the cusp of NEETdom - too NEET for normies and too normie for the NEETs. What a fantastic piece of work.
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>>153887426
Roswaal isn't a wifebeater during this one? What sort of loopyland have I entered?
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>>153887993
Yeah, he becomes more understandable where he's coming from once you get into his psyche, while he is still wrong and a dick during episode 13 he become at least understandable. Also what happens in the following episodes are gonna be fun.

>>153887965
He still needs to perma-die though.
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>>153887426
Why is it whenever Ram and Roswaal act all intimate with each other it makes me really angry?
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>>153888002
He isn't a wifebeater normally. He beats the shit out of Ram because they start fighting. It'd be like calling Garf a wifebeater for having fought her. Or Rem a husbandobeater
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>>153887426
>Rem was depended on way too much, so Subaru wanted do something about it so much that he was always thinking of it.
Uh huh. I think it can be inferred that Subaru had subconsciously moved past the "DEEP FRIENDSHIP" point long ago.
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>>153887993
Have fun with the next few episodes
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>>153888258
He's basically responsible for everything that happened in arc 1-3. Not to mention his comments during arc 6. Not to mention he literally impaled Ram in the previous chapters for no good reason. Calling him a wifebeater at this point should be a compliment.
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Wanna play a game?
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>>153888729
Fucking spoilers dude. I'm still on arc 4 of the web novel! I didn't know Roswaal was abusive of Ram!
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>>153888785
Well we ARE in a WN discussion thread. But I guess I'll be careful and spoiler.
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>>153888729
He's a dick, but calling someone a wifebeater means something very specific, which he does not do. Its a dumb insult for him.

>Not to mention he literally impaled Ram in the previous chapters for no good reason.
She got in the way specifically so he could do exactly that. She purposefully sacked herself for his sake.
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>>153887426
>[Subaru: …….During the mabeast commotion, Ros-chi was called from somewhere and he flew, right?]

>[Rem: That was a rare exception. It was Garf being selfish in the first place……..anyways, please don’t say mean things, Subaru-kun.]

Huh? He went to go visit Garf? I assume that was probably just an excuse he gave and he was just fucking around, but still.
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>>153888143

Because nee-sama is a nice girl and Roswaal is a scumbag.
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>>153888937
>She got in the way specifically so he could do exactly that

That's still such a dick move on Roswaal's behalf. I guess I'll have to settle for another insult for him
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>>153888143
Because Roswaal is the very definition of an irredeemable man.
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>>153887993
Just wait for the other episodes. Also keep in mind Whitefox butchered arc 3 so you'll have to take everything in the anime with a grain of salt.
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Rosswaal steals the bodies of his children, right?
How can anyone find that redeemable?
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>>153889007
Wait Rem knew Garf?
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>>153887426

>hopefully part 2 will be obtained soon

What parts are Rem-rin's Day and Rem's Birthday Party then? Seems like they follow right after this part.
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>>153889407
This nee-sama did
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Guys, I'm not that far into the WN, but tell me if this is true.

Is Roswaal just close to Ram because he wants to switch his soul with the body of one of their children in the future? That's kind of fucked up. Why does Ram like that asshole?
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>>153889484
They aren't parts. They're more like interludes.
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>>153889497
If Roswaal and Ram stay together till the end of the series I will eat my shit
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>>153889514
It's unclear. He has some genuine fondness for the girl, but he's such a bastard that it barely makes a difference. He'd stab his best friend in the back if he thought it was a good idea at the time.
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>>153889514
Stockholm Syndrome and she couldn't beat the cock.
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>>153889497
She's retarded, then.
Because he's going to do the exact same thing to the child that she has with Rosswaal.

I don't know about you guys, but I actually want my wife to care more about our children than she cares about me.
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>>153889514
Roswaal has a massive dick
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>>153889635
Don't worry she has three options, one of them will inevitable do something right? RIGHT?!
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>>153889642
>The size of that censor bar
Holy fuck! That thing could fit a horse!
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>>153889642
Reminder Ram takes that on the daily
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>>153889497
...Ram wants to give birth to Ros-chi?
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>>153888143
It's because you're salty that your crack ship Ram x Otto wouldn't be able to come alive if Ram and Roswaal keep being intimate with each other and that Roswaal would soon prove himself worthy of being Ram's husband.
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>>153889781
I'd rather have Ram be dead than live a life with that asshole
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>>153888143
>Ram pouts a little at Roswaal, who strangely just seemed to be happy, and after that, she loosened her lips.
Honk honk
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>>153889514
>Is Roswaal just close to Ram because he wants to switch his soul with the body of one of their children in the future?
Whatever entangled him with the Oni village in the first place was at the order of his Gospel.
Bear in mind, he could have come early enough to stop the Witch Cult. But didn't.
>Why does Ram like that asshole?
He saved her life. He isn't always (as big) a dick. And Stockholm Syndrome (she relies on him for mana).
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>>153889781
She can always be an independent woman. She's been a pawn for so long its probably the best option of development for Ram
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>>153889770
She wouldn't be able to walk if that was the case. She takes it on special occasions, like her birthday.
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>>153887246
WN is cannon and will always be. The author's original intentions are always within the WN.
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>>153889875
"He saved her life"
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>>153889926
Don't underestimate an Oni's constitution
She is a prodigy after-all
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>>153889959
He did. He could've probably done a better job and not let her horn get cut off or family killed, but he wouldn't even know about this random event in a random village without his weird douche book.
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>>153889983
I might believe that if she actually had an Oni's constitution and wasn't missing a vital organ.
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>>153889983
Oni regen runs on mana.
Oni get mana from horns.
Ram has no horn of her own.

Reminder that mabeasts can be controlled with horns
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>>153889846
>>153889890
Okay so Ram has
>taken BCC every night
>shamelessly From Zero'ed Garf and even allowed him to rely on her emotionally
>been close to Otto and even somewhat friendly with him.

You ought to admit that whoever Ram ends up with, she is still a slut. A SLUT! So Ram doesn't have the right to choose her husband. Instead, they choose her!
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>>153890143
I like Ram, she's the person with the most individual gusto throughout the entire series.
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>>153890143
But nee-sama is amazing
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>>153887426
I can't even enjoy the happy moments of this chapter the first part is depressing as fuck

Fuck you Tappei for giving me feelings
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>>153887426
I'm reading through this, and Subaru comes across as a little too hyped up for helping Rem or celebrating how wonderful she is. At least in the context of seeing her as just a friend. Really, it seems he does stuff for her way more often than she does anything for him.

It strikes me as kind of obvious that he already likes the Oni girl.
>>153890143
>>been close to Otto and even somewhat friendly with him.
In one loop, when he was being the ultimate asskisser.
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>>153890143
Really if she doesn't stay with the clown, whoever she ends up with is going to be cucked by somebody, unless they can actually get her the sweet mana she needs. Can you imagine having to send your waifu over to the clown regularly for 'maintenance'?
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>episode 15

How the fuck is Emilia even on the fucking radar after this episode

holy sweet mother of fuck

and how is Beetlejuice so fucking hilarious even AFTER he twisted her right round baby right round
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>>153890453
Pete's just that much fun. Can't even hate him even though he plays twister for keeps.
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>>153890453
>Anon is approaching episode 18

Prep those lemonwater links boys
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>>153890489

ayep. Worth watching the anime for this alone. Doubt he came through this strong in the LNs.

>>153890516

YOU'RE MAKING ME NERVOUS, ANON
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>>153890551
Are you that one anon who was cringing super hard about episode 13 in the last thread?
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>>153890551
People have also legitimately dropped the series after episode 18.
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>>153890516
>>153890551
???

https://lemonwater123.wordpress.com/2017/02/01/the-manifestation-of-my-love-for-rem/
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>>153890369
You gotta admit, Tappei has a talent for pulling heartstrings that's for sure.
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>>153890614
I remember watching it blind, disregarding all Re:zero threads and just quietly said "wtf" after Subaru said he loved Emilia.
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>>153890646
Wrong one you apple fritter
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>>153890597
>Are you that one anon who was cringing super hard about episode 13 in the last thread?

Yep, that was me. Boy, anon was right. That motherfucker didn't just fuck up. He grabbed a shovel and dug a tunnel deep into Fuckup Mountain. He WORKED at fucking up like he was earning overtime for it. Gatdamn.

>>153890614
>People have also legitimately dropped the series after episode 18.

If it involves Subaru being fucking retarded some more, that's fine; this anime seems to properly shit on him for it.
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>>153890383
>It strikes me as kind of obvious that he already likes the Oni girl.
Their compatibility is off the fucking charts so it's really is a matter of time before they hopelessly fall in love with each other.
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>>153890697
Oh boy. This is gonna be good
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>>153890754
Aren't they already are? I mean, you kinda don't confess to each other that you want to spend the rest of your life with them.
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>>153890754
I remember there was once a time when people argued that Subaru and Rem had no chemistry. I also remember a time when people said Subaru spoiling Rem was utter bullshit. How have things changed.
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>In the past, he got all of the mansion together to somehow work out a day off for Rem, and he acted as her representative.
>As a result, they all reflected upon Rem’s greatness, but――

Subaru almost sounds like Rem
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>>153890822
Well Rem did confess to Subaru yeah. But I'm not sure about Subaru. I mean his "daisuki" doesn't even hold a candle to Rem's "aishiteru" and their speeches during the confessions are not even comparable either. So I'd only admit that they do confess to one another only when Subaru can make a better speech and put more heart into it like Rem did, such as going "aishiteru" or something.
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>utterly powerless to change events around him
>has his face beaten in and rubbed in how powerless he is
>forced to witness horrific atrocities
>greenhair Gangrene abstains

Ah, yes, there it is. Anger, resentment, little bitch-boy pride, that was one thing, but now... now, it's growing into true, honest hate.
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>>153891132
This is the part where they start butchering the adaptation, not like they didn't butcher the previous sections but this one moreso.
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>>153891132
Hold your horses. He isn't out of the woodwork yet.
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>>153891132
If only he had a spoon
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>>153891258
I am still very upset that they didn't include the spoon in the anime
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>>153891258

A spoon? Why not use an axe!?
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>>153890754
Well, that's kind of the thing. It seems like he was already halfway there well before Arc 3. He recognizes that he's always thinking about Rem and ways to make her happy. He gets extremely excited the moment someone brings up a way to do that. He gets jealous at the thought of her smiling for a stranger.

There are plenty of moments he tries to look sensitive and cool in front of her. I'm not even talking about compatibility here. It might be subconscious or something, but he's trying pretty hard to impress her. Whether he realizes it or not, he's actually putting in quite the effort to get Rem to like him.
>>153891059
That's the other thing. The way he thinks of Rem and occasionally brags about her. I'm just not so sure how else to interpret it.
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>[Subaru: But if I do that, it’d feel like I’ve lost…….]
>[Rem: Lost what?]
>[Subaru: That is, I lost in a sense of a man’s spirit. I’m lost with what I should do and for what purpose, and no matter how fired up with motivation I am, I don’t get any results.]
>[Rem: That’s how it is? I see……]
>[Subaru: This time it’s about a celebration for Rem, so I especially didn’t want to slack off.]
>[Rem: …...Th―that’s]
>[Subaru: Yeah. That’s how it is…….wait.]
>Subaru was trying to have a monologue, but he clearly realized that he was having a conversation with someone, and he turned around.


SUBARU YOU DUMBASS
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>>153891460
This is the kind of shit I expect out of Emilia.
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https://e-hentai.org/g/1025389/d4f48e2697/

Rem masturbating, if that's your thing.
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>>153891425
The anime cut a scene where Mazda tried to stab Crusch.
Was he loop where he failed to solicit aid, right after she called him insane.
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>>153891460
>[Rem: Subaru-kun trying his hardest for me…....that alone is enough to fill my heart.]
>[Subaru: D―damn it! For me, of all people, to make a basic mistake…….!]
>The situation wasn’t so clever that you could put it as the crafty schemer drowning in his own scheme, but it was him being unlucky.

At least he realized his dumbass mistake right?
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>>153891460
Why is it so fucking hard for Subaru to lie to Rem?
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>>153891460
Subaru should stop his bad habit of talking out loud when he has his monolouges it makes sound like a villain and might fuck him over someday.
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>>153891548
>he literally went after the cunt with his breakfast spoon

... that is actually fucking amazing. To be perfectly honest, I'd go after the bitch with a spoon, too.

I'm halfway through episode 16 and I'm amazed that he hasn't decided to just burn down the entire fucking capital city at this point. Fuck all of these cunts, holy shit.
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Oh my god this purple-haired cunt, I would've eaten that fucking note
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>>153891693
To put things into perspective: the necrophiliac and the foreign jew are the only qualified King Candidates.
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>>153891756

and we thought the 2016 election was bad, sweet jesus
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>>153891756
Priscilla qualifies. She's a noble in good standing who runs successfully via voodoo.
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>>153891460
When he promised to tell everything he possible can to Rem I didn't expect him to also take it subconsiously
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>THE WHITE WHALE
>flies around over fucking land
>summons fog

I'm 80% sure there's a stupid D&D monster that mirrors this exactly, too. I misspent my youth.
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>>153891693
To be fair, she still helped in a way even if it wasn't the help he was looking for.
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>>153891995
Nope. And the nips give zero fucks about D&D.

The most "classic" Fantasy RPG in the eyes of sunrise country is Wizardry... which was a cRPG that heavily riffed B/X.
The other "classics" are Final Fantasy (riffing AD&D) and Dragon Warrior/Dragon Quest (riffing Wizardry).

But most nips have never heard of D&D. Or associate that name with a series of Beat 'em up Arcade Games.
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>>153891995
Wait until you see what it actually does, it is total horseshit.
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>>153892214
Lust notwithstanding, all the Witch powers have been pretty unique.
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>>153892214

More horseshit than making Rem sacrifice herself AGAIN? Girl's gotta kick this martyr complex goddamn
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>who is Rem

fucking
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>>153892327
Yes
>>153892363
Now ya get it
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Beetlegeuse is hilarious. I'm not even mad that he killed my waifu in a horrifying fashion. That scene where he looked like he was floating in air was pure kino.
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>>153892363
MAJOR SPOILER FOR THE END OF ARC 3 (but cut from the Anime):
At the end of the successful loop, Emilia asks Subaru "Who's Rem?"
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>Subaru gets there just in time

he's gonna witness everyone being slaughtered horribly
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>>153892410
He's pretty tragic really. He didn't want to kill anybody's waifu.
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>>153892501
Ha, that would be smalltime. He needs new and exciting ways to suffer.
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>Ram keeps calling him a useless fuck in between denying her sister ever existed

At some point he's going to say fuck all these people and try to run off with his blueberry isn't he
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>>153891442
>but he's trying pretty hard to impress her.
Why though? Didn't Subaru usually try to ignore Rem's feelings for him before From Zero out of fear that they would grow too fast and eventually become overwhelming for him? Being too attached to Rem and even trying hard to impress her wouldn't make sense at all if Subaru didn't want their relationship to develop and proceed to the higher level than "friendship." I mean by being that close to Rem and that willing to do everything to make her happy, Subaru is pretty much adding fuel to Rem's love for him right there and urgently telling her to love him more regardless of his claim of only being faithful to one girl. So I really have no clue if Subaru wants Rem love him or not. They way he keeps his love for Rem as secret and private as possible and usually reassures Emilia that he still loves her really makes me think Subaru loving Rem is a mistake, but many of his actions actually show otherwise, as in he'd try to pull Rem closer to Rem at any given opportunity. Holy shit I'm so confused by Subaru right now.
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>>153892599
>At some point he's going to say fuck all these people and try to run off with his blueberry isn't he
Something like that
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>>153892599
>Ram keeps calling him a useless fuck in between denying her sister ever existed
Sometimes the nee-sama bantz too hard ;_;
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>>153892599
Nope, but we get a hypothetical side-stories about that every year on her birthday.
• https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B_oxWJ1yWNv4S2ZDOWs2NHo1bUE/view
• https://docs.google.com/document/d/1zQ7NRY5S_S5Oua3sHwNuiSVxmW27KRjhskCwSpFmwPM/edit
• https://docs.google.com/document/d/1hDWe95EYBFULs1DenrHzAAczt9QQC_0Y9UkGeYfEBrg/edit
• https://docs.google.com/document/d/1bFlEXFA8WjoPSrqKoiHQXFtg-DoMf6xVPZm62u7C2lY/edit
• https://lemonwater123.wordpress.com/2017/02/05/rem-if-ex-fortune-fish-head-tree/
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>>153892799
Can you fucking slow down? If he's watching it now, you can present all this shit later.
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>>153892622
Cognitive dissonance. Subaru is good at burying thoughts that he doesn't like to think about, but they still effect him and his attitude. His internal monologue in the early chapters of Arc 3 is pretty clear that he loves it when Rem is paying attention to him, and it comes up several times that he thinks about her even when he doesn't realize it.

Basically, it's pretty obvious that on some level he's wanted Rem to love him for quite some time, but is also kind of confused about the whole matter.
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>>153892599
>Fuck you nee-sama! I would use up all my cum to impregnate my oni lover and piss you off royally and watch you struggling to lay a hand on me with my wife and my baby nearby.
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>>153892799

.... aaah, so that's what they meant by lemonwater. Refers to everyone who can't stomach the helf honey still being in the show at all, eh?
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>Puck is the BlizzBeast

well shit just got real
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>>153892972
No, lemon is a specific translator who really, really likes Rem. Which is why he basically changed his name to Remonwater. To my knowledge he's fairly neutral on Emilia.
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>>153893030
I mean, he's been the blizzbeast. Its why he sounds like puck and says shit like 'Sleep along with my daughter' when Emilia dies.
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>>153892972
Nah. Lemonwater is just one guy, though he is a massive Remfag. He usually translates various short stories, most of which take place between Arc 2 and 3. He's also translated scenes the anime cut or altered.
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>>153892972
Nah, Remonwater is one of our translators. He likes Rem. A lot.
c also >>153890646

But only translated one of those side stories was translated by Remon.
The rest were this other guy who doesn't translate for us anymore.

...we've only got like 2 or 3 translators.
We had more, but some faggot drove them out.
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>>153893062
>I mean, he's been the blizzbeast. Its why he sounds like puck and says shit like 'Sleep along with my daughter' when Emilia dies.

Yeah, I get that.

>Puck calls him useless

Man, if I was Subaru, I'd wake up, roll over, and go back to sleep. Fuck this shit. Fuck Satella. Fuck all y'alls. Have fun, fucknuggets. Hoo.

>>153893080
>Nah. Lemonwater is just one guy, though he is a massive Remfag.
>>153893086
>A lot.
>that blogpost was written by the translator

Y'know that moment, when you realize you've walked into a fandom that you maybe shouldn't have, but it's far too late to turn around now? Yeah. Yeaaaah.

Why didn't they say something

WHY DIDN'T YOU WARN THEM, BURKE?
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>>153893166
If it makes you feel any better,
>We had more, but some faggot drove them out.
We've since driven that faggot out.
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>>153892410
Betelgeuse is a riot, but wait till you get to the other Archbishops like pic related. He's literally /our guy/
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>>153893234
Well they don't even show up in the anime
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>>153893166
>Man, if I was Subaru, I'd wake up, roll over, and go back to sleep. Fuck this shit. Fuck Satella. Fuck all y'alls. Have fun, fucknuggets. Hoo.
Are you actually Subaru?
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>>153893232

Reading that post more, I kind of feel bad about that. At least he really enjoyed it. It's rare to find a work of fiction that you can really love like he does. Hope he's still enjoying himself, at least.
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>>153893166
>Y'know that moment, when you realize you've walked into a fandom that you maybe shouldn't have, but it's far too late to turn around now? Yeah. Yeaaaah.
Eh. You should have realized you'd be in for this kind of thing when Rem has been eating up 50% of every popularity poll for years.

I'd also recommend checking out the manga for various deleted scenes after you're done. Some buildup for greater mysteries was left out of the anime.
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>>153893277
>Are you actually Subaru?

Aren't we all? Isn't that the entire point of Subaru's character? Here he is, living the dream - nigga LITERALLY Woke Up In Gensokyo - and the entire thing's just been having his face ground into the reality of how fucking useless he is. He's even more useless than someone in his own world; he went from being a nobody normie halfNEET to being literally worse than a dirt-eating peasant. You know how Eskimos have 300 words for snow? Japanese people have 300 words for "peasant scum." The average motherfucker on the street can crap better magic than he can manage. This isn't a "deconstruction." This is a "fuck you" delivered by rubbing the average NEET viewer's face on a cheese grater. This is beautiful. And horrible. And Rem.

>>153893317
>Eh. You should have realized you'd be in for this kind of thing when Rem has been eating up 50% of every popularity poll for years.

I've been wondering just how much delusion factors into Rem's adoration for Subaru and I just hit this part and I think I'm about to find out.

>>153893317
>I'd also recommend checking out the manga for various deleted scenes after you're done. Some buildup for greater mysteries was left out of the anime.


THERE'S A FUCKING MANGA? DOES IT HAVE MORE R- oh fuck, I'm doomed.
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>>153893166
It's even more fun when you realize the anime fucked up all the proper foreshadowing there was supposed to be.
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>>153893280
Lemonwater is still with us. He's cool, but he's only motivated to translate certain stories. We've had two other faggots who caused issues. One guy who posted fake spoilers he pulled out of his ass, and one guy who was really fucking abrasive and insulted everyone constantly.
>>153893355
Holy shit, what kind of screenshot is that?
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>>153893388
What board is Re:Zero general? I can't seem to find it in /a/ or /c/.
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>>153893166
actually reading this again, it has major spoilers for arc 3
sorry about that, hope you didn't read it yet
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>>153893388

... and here I thought it was a big deal when Episode 9 of Madoka Magica put me in a funk for a week before I could finish the show. God damn.

>>153893406
>Betelgeuse still aces the expressions in the manga

picked the fuck UP

>>153893423
>He's cool, but he's only motivated to translate certain stories

Guess I can understand that
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>>153889938

No
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>>153893435

Skimmed it way too fast, right to the spoiler text about the therapy. S'okay.
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>>153893424
You're in it. Very occasionally, we make that semi-clear in the OP (like we did with this one).
But usually it's whichever Re:Zero shit posting thread we commandeer for actual discussion.

We've got something like 20-21 hour uptime on /a/ each day.
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>>153893404
>I've been wondering just how much delusion factors into Rem's adoration for Subaru and I just hit this part and I think I'm about to find out.
She's surprisingly honest about him, although the anime cut a lot of the scenes where you would've seen that previously. She continued to tease him like in the first couple loops.
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>Run away with me, as far as we can go

can't wait to see how she talks him out of this
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Fan artists are having a field day with the latest WN chapter.

also something I read on 2ch: The LN bonus that came with the 9th BD was about the royal candidates and their knights. One of the chapters was about how Julius became Anastasia's knight. Apparently people who read that one thought the latest chapter was really sad because it referenced something from the special, or something. Makes you wonder.
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>>153893553
Oh boy...
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Every thread until Crusch-sama gets her memories back.
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>>153893404
>I've been wondering just how much delusion factors into Rem's adoration for Subaru and I just hit this part and I think I'm about to find out.
The more you read the extra stories and the translations from the source material, the less delusional it comes across. One of her running gags with Subaru is that she still insults him regularly.
>>153893589
Don't spoil you fuck.
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>>153893640
I want to spoil more but arc 3 from this point really just goes exactly how you'd expect it to and am lacking for material
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>>153893558
Someone needs to get us all the BD books.
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>>153893589

Oh damn bro I had no idea, I thought the OP of every Rem thread on /a/ going WHEN DOES SHE WAKE UP was just giggles man, woah

>>153893598
>she's describing how she's thought through all if it already and is even thinking about children with him

DON'T FUCKING TELL HIM THAT SHIT AFTER YOU'VE SAID YOU CAN'T GO THROUGH WITH IT

TWIST THE KNIFE, YOU BLUE BITCH, JESUS
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>>153893404
>THERE'S A FUCKING MANGA? DOES IT HAVE MORE R- oh fuck, I'm doomed.
Three, technically. Each Arc is a separate manga. But it's all behind where the anime is at.

Arc 1 (complete) wasn't really missing anything, so the manga adds nothing.
Arc 2 (ongoing) adds a fair bit of omitted content. And has a really dedicated mangaka. She even insisted on drawing her favorite side story.
Arc 3 (ongoing) has the same mangaka as Arc 1. Like Arc 1, the artist is kind of lazy. Not quite tracing the Anime, but it's close. Has a bit of omitted content tho.
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>>153893694

Worth reading, then. I read the first LN and jesus, LNs just don't translate well. I thought modern YA stuff was bad, but damn. Manga is far superior.
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>>153893693
>TWIST THE KNIFE, YOU BLUE BITCH, JESUS
Yeah. You're a few episodes short of the point where you're going to have to see the original versions of a few scenes.
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>>153893693
>DON'T FUCKING TELL HIM THAT SHIT AFTER YOU'VE SAID YOU CAN'T GO THROUGH WITH IT
Some context for when she talks about playing with his lips and how he looks like when he sleeps. The flashbacks shown don't convey the proper message. She's literally been sneaking into his room to watch him sleep for the past two months. She sometimes touches his lips when she does so.
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>>153893693
OH BOY
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>>153893865
>>153893693
She also keeps Stalker diaries. They've also got details on Ram, but she filled 6 journals during that 2 month span.
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on a scale of 1 to 10, how assmad will this anon be when he gets there?
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>>153893946
8.
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>>153892894
> Basically, it's pretty obvious that on some level he's wanted Rem to love him for quite some time
Kinda funny that Subaru even told Emilia at the beginning of arc 4 that he didn't understand why Rem loved him that much when he was actually the one that sought love from Rem and pulled her closer to him. Makes me wonder if he was oblivious for real or he was bullshitting there to hide the fact that he loves Rem.
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>>153893865
>>153893917
>and she can tell him all that shit after that 100% accurate self-hatred rant

oh my fucking god
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>>153893993
She's extreme even for what he was doing, so its natural for him to be a little confused. Especially because even though she's sort of explained it his own insecurities don't let him see what she does. He also doesn't fully understand how deeply his words affected her because he doesn't actually know Rem and Ram's past.
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>>153894022
>and it's all based on a lie that she can't possibly know

I WANT OFF. STOP THE ANIME. I WANT OFF THIS TRAIN
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Reminder

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RA-ijHB9LNc
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>>153894064
Its not technically a lie, he can totally actually die. He just comes back. And him being in mortal peril isn't the entirety of the reason either.
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>>153894067

13:50
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>>153894064
HERE IT COMES
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>>153894145
YEESSS, THE ASSMAD WILL BE DELICIOUS
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>>153894051
I don't know why, but for some reason this makes me like Rem even more. Despite knowing all of Subaru's imperfections, and boy has he shown plenty, she still supports him.
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>>153894145
ITS TIME
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>>153894172
I'm pretty sure that's why most people like Rem. She's supportive, but not really coddling.
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>>153894064
Nah. That's not the part that made her fall in love with him.
You may have noticed people discussing it in this thread, but he did a lot to try to make Rem happy during the timeskip between Arcs 2 and 3. She more fell in love with him for the emotional support he gave, the effort he put into things, and because she already thought he was cute.
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>>153893946
He'll probably drop the series unless we spoil him about thier relationship at this point.
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>>153894162
>>153894145
>>153894215

What.

I

processing this
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>>153894262
Problem?

I can actually give a better explaination that might make you feel slightly better, but its still pretty twisted
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>>153894262
Someone get the From Zero translation from lemon. Basically he beleives that Rem is too good of a woman for him and deserves a better man.
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>>153894262
Dropped status in 3
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>>153894262
OH BOOOOOY
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>>153894290
That's part of it, but don't exaggerate.
>>153894262
You're going to need the original versions of quite a few scenes very soon. The anime changed some very important moments that will be coming up. Like Rem following her own advice. Pic related is the most notable altered scene, as the changes to it have a massive impact on both Subaru and Rem's characterization. When you come to this scene, people here should have the originals ready.
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>>153894290
>he beleives that Rem is too good of a woman for him and deserves a better man
Hold on! This is new to me. If Subaru rejected Rem because he thought Rem would be better off with a different guy, then why the hell did he confess to her and even claim that she belongs to no one except Subaru himself?
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I'm amazed because this has revealed to me that two day long ESL emiliafag-remfag pointless shitflings are preferable to excruciatingly protracted liveblogging.
Where is spoonfeedanon. I want that guy back to nuke this unfortunate thread.
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Y'know what?

I'm... not even mad.

Even considering >>153894242 the conclusion I came to is exactly what >>153894290 said. Frankly, if I'd just listened to Rem say all of that, so selflessly, so completely, I'd turn her down. In fact, I'd get her as far away from me as possible. He doesn't deserve her, and after that rant of his, there's no god damned way he doesn't know it.

The way she cheerfully smiled past her inner pain and showed not a moment of surprise when he said "I love Emilia-" she just said, "yes." Because she already knew. And of course it's best for her if he doesn't tell her the truth. Let her think she never had a chance, easier than explaining - just, yeah.

But when she finally wept against his chest as he held her, it was Emilia's face in his mind, in his thoughts, in his heart.

Stupid cunt. He hasn't changed at all. What Rem did there was more self-sacrifice. He hasn't saved her yet. He hasn't saved her at ALL.

Dumb bastard. Stupid, dumb, delusional bastard.

NEVERMIND. I'M MAD
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>>153894448
Because that's not entirely true. He doesn't feel like he's worthy of her, which is why he was trying to fix that so he would be. The 'I love Emilia' bit was in a sort of twisted way a way of acknowledging what she had been saying.
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>>153894454 #
>shitflings are preferable
D-Did you not have a similarly aged sibling to bicker with through your childhood? That's sad.
It's such a great pastime.
Readily available and borderline therapeutic.
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##''Since his sword had been destroyed in their previous battle, Julius used the trial's sword. He attempted to fight like usual, nonetheless it proved to be of no use, and eventually Reid became tired of his antics, deciding to finish him off with a sword strike. As the attack hit him, he heard Subaru yelling his name, making him wonder if he still deserved to be referred to by his name.''

Is Julius ded?##
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>>153894477
>But when she finally wept against his chest as he held her, it was Emilia's face in his mind, in his thoughts, in his heart.
Not exactly. At this point she's wormed her way in there even though he was kind of trying to not let that happen. He failed spectacularly at that even early on, he just didn't realize how much he did so.

>>153894492
Adding to this, basically she told him to not give up and to keep moving forward, and his previous major drive for doing so was Emilia. 'I love Emilia' is a blunt, and harsh, but simple way of expressing that idea while equally bluntly letting Rem know where they stand. Of course Rem already knew that, but it still hurts. She knew that from the start and pursued him anyway, so this doesn't really stop her either.
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>Emilia even fucking called him out on this "the version of me in your head must be amazing"
>He's still fucking chasing some imaginary dream of the perfect woman by trying to be the big hero when the one right in front of him, who he's watched give her life for him twice over, is showcasing a twisted level of martyr syndrome
>she even said he's her "reason to die," not reason to live, and there's no way he can fucking not see this

>>153894603
>Not exactly. At this point she's wormed her way in there even though he was kind of trying to not let that happen. He failed spectacularly at that even early on, he just didn't realize how much he did so.

I hope that's in the LN, because if it was exactly as shown in the anime, this motherfucker needs to pull the pin on a grenade and sit on it
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>>153894477
>But when she finally wept against his chest as he held her, it was Emilia's face in his mind, in his thoughts, in his heart.
You're going to want to see his original internal monologue for all that. Becoming a man worthy of Rem's love is actually one of the things that drives him from this point onward.
https://lemonwater123.wordpress.com/2016/11/02/arc-3-chapter-52-from-zero/

Anyhow, the next few episodes are going to have some altered scenes.
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>>153894641
>I hope that's in the LN, because if it was exactly as shown in the anime, this motherfucker needs to pull the pin on a grenade and sit on it
That's why people are talking about how certain scenes were changed. The anime cut the main Rem romance scenes, so you're going to stay mad.
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>>153894477
>He hasn't saved her yet. He hasn't saved her at ALL.
Huh so everything Subaru did for Rem in arc 2 gets automatically thrown out the window now?
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>>153894641
The scene plays out mostly the same way as the anime, its his actions from this point out, plus a few other inner dialogues that get skipped. Ultimately he's kind of a greedy douche and is sort of waffling around the idea of pursuing both girls. He generally becomes a better character from this point on, you could actually consider this the end of the prologue with the title drop and all, with that sort of scumy exception that Ram was giving him shit for earlier all the way back in arc 2.
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>>153894727
>He generally becomes a better character from this point on,
Not a better person though. And he gets more and more villainous as it goes on.
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>>153894793
Eh, he's sort of a better person. A few more hits to the head and he finally starts treating those around him like people instead of game characters. With only a slight near miss of going full clown.
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>>153894669
>Becoming a man worthy of Rem's love is actually one of the things that drives him from this point onward.

AS IT DAMN WELL OUGHT TO.

>>153894712
>Huh so everything Subaru did for Rem in arc 2 gets automatically thrown out the window now?

She's still willing to destroy herself just to make him happy. Willing to support him all the way, to an end which sees him together with Emilia, and her left out in the cold with a broken heart.

>>153894727
>Ultimately he's kind of a greedy douche and is sort of waffling around the idea of pursuing both girls.

YOU. CANNOT. BE FUCKING REAL

>>153894793
>Not a better person though. And he gets more and more villainous as it goes on.

Shit, if I was him, i would be too. Kindness and clean hands are luxuries a guy in his position doesn't have, when even his so-called allies are much more powerful and utterly lacking in morals. Now that he's got some REAL motivation - and a nice big wagonload of virulent, true-blue hatred in his system - he's going to start getting pragmatic, I'm guessing. Cutting Gordian's knot, and burning down the forest.
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>>153894793
He's a better person, even if he develops into a schemer.
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>>153894587
Doubt it. A RbD doesn't feel like it'd help the situation too much or open any alternate paths, and more importantly it would mean Julius loses the despairing near-breakdown mentality he has as of this chapter.
I mean I suppose it's not impossible but I don't see what a rdb would achieve. Guess that's the trick though.
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>>153894841
>YOU. CANNOT. BE FUCKING REAL
He's only considering it because Rem suggested it in a bout of low self-esteem.
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>>153894841
>YOU. CANNOT. BE FUCKING REAL
In case you missed it the Seven Deadly Sins feature prominently. Its harder to convey in the anime, but Subaru is frequently described using them, and one of his big ones past this point is his Greed, which is much greater than a normal person's.
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>>153894841
>and her left out in the cold with a broken heart
I'd suggest you to continue watching rather than making wild assumptions. If anything, their relationship even grows stronger after that fucking scene although the anime does not do a good job at displaying it.
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>>153894841
>and burning down the forest.
Hey, speaking of which...
during Arc 4 he burns down Roswaal's house.
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>>153894891
There's a bit of lust there too, wanting two beautiful girls to himself. He's quite sinful really...
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>>153894887
This is also true, Rem's low self esteem is so bad that she sort of tosses the idea of her being a mistress or wife #2 or whatever as long as Emilia is fine with it, which kind of gives Subaru and out on having to make a choice.
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>>153894887
>He's only considering it because Rem suggested it in a bout of low self-esteem

THAT JUST MAKES IT FUCKING *WORSE*
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>>153894922
I think gluttony is the only sin he hasn't shown in a blatant and excessive capacity.
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>>153894920
>the madman actually does it

Right, LN picked up. Goddammit, I'm in now.
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>>153894841
>YOU. CANNOT. BE FUCKING REAL
He's a scumbag.
>and her left out in the cold with a broken heart.
In the WN and LN, she's a bit more devious than that.
>>153894929
The scene is here. It's cut from the anime, but it fits where she shoves her eyes into the screen.
https://lemonwater123.wordpress.com/2016/09/20/rezero-web-novel-translation-of-rems-proposalconversation-with-subaru-under-the-flugel-tree/
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>>153894929
Rem is her own worst enemy in a lot of ways. There used to be a lot more 'cuck' jokes regarding her, but she's actually sort of trying to steal Subaru away from the get-go so really its more of Emilia getting cucked, kinda.
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>>153894979

WN*
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>>153894998

It's on the web? No shit?
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I want to see Julius commit suicide
Actually I want to see anyone except Subaru commit/attempt suicide
That sounds like it'd be fun
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>>153895015
The LN is adapting the WN, which is farther along. Also since LN translations get takedown notices translation efforts are mostly on the WN.
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>>153895015

?
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>>153895023
Does Rem count? She keeps running at dangerous stuff with no real intent to come back.
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>>153895061
Ram too, somebody needs to get these Onis some self worth.
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>>153895038

Aaaah, that explains a lot.

So, I wasn't even aware till a few days ago that "web novels" existed, and this one got an LN deal, mango, and a fucking anime.

In other words, I can never admit having watched this or every motherfucker will be telling me to make a paetron already. This can only be a secret shame, shared with /a/.

they can never know
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>>153895061
No not that kind of low self esteem noble 'doing it to save someone else' indirect suicide I mean actual proper 'there is nothing for me in life and I would rather be non-existent and dead' suicide suicide
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>>153895121
Roswaal does that, shows Subaru a thing or two about the proper way to take a rabbit up the ass.
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>>153895154
No you stupid piece of shit not like that, I mean actively willing not to be alive at all in any form because life is too horrible, not being chill with dying for the sake of keikaku
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>>153894929
It's not so much that he's considering it. He's past considering it, and come to terms with being an indecisive bastard. Unfortunately, circumstances prevent him from following up on that little thing.
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>>153895110
Basically the anime goes up through (most) of arc 3. The LN is chugging along on arc 4, the WN is like 30 chapters into arc 6. So far no huge changes to the structure from WN to LN, although arc 4 has shuffled some things around, but most of the main plot points have remained intact
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>>153895206
>it's not that kind of story
>but it's totally that kind of story

And so we are kept in suspense waiting to see if Subaru will achieve the final hurdle in making himself not a total pile of shit. Well played, author. Well played.
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>>153895244
Ain't it grand?
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>>153895244
Ram knows everything, sasuga nee-sama, truly she is the greatest.

Now if she would just stop fucking clowns
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>>153893032
>To my knowledge he's fairly neutral on Emilia
He just doesn't want to start shit
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Just saw a twitter post from the magazine that usually publishes the Re:Zero short stories.

Apparently Tappei wrote a story with Rem in Kono Suba, and Kono Suba's author wrote one with Emilia in that world.
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>>153895352
It sounds unfair that they're both re zero characters
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>>153895352
Or I might have gotten those backwards.
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>>153895352
More crossover things? Thinking about it, isn't Emilia basically just like writing Aqua but with even less common sense?
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>>153895023
Catfag would necromancer them.
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>>153895395
No clue, but I think I got the authors backwards.
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>>153895395
Anon Emilia isn't THAT stupid
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>>153895201
>not being chill with dying for the sake of keikaku
It wasn't though. Up 'til Subaru offered the bet, giving-up-now-Roswaals had thoroughly given up.
They stopped acting on the keikaku, and resorted to hoping things would be better next time.
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>>153895490
You don't get it
Point is I want Julius to commit suicide

>>153895409
That has to come up as a plot point eventually, doesn't it
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>>153895542
Remember how in Trial No.2 catfag tried to bring Toyota back to life but couldn't because Mazda's soul was missing?
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>>153895618
Remember the horrible abomination that rose in his place?
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>>153895542
I want Crusch to die from AIDS and for Felix to animate the corpse
I want him to try and convince himself that this is the real Crusch and not just his puppet
Cat will be the true brains behind Crusch's campaign
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>>153895643
I wonder what the deal was with that.
It feels like it was the WoE, but why did it only show up then? Because his body was healed? Does the WoE spawn from his corpse in any world where Subaru's corpse is mended? Or is something else the trigger?
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>>153895694
It could depend on how much miasma is left lingering. Every death that left an intact body after that could have ended in super zombie Subaru.
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>>153894290
It always strike me as odd that he considered Rem too good for him yet adamantly reinstated his intention to pursue a woman he regards as #1 and thus he should feel even more inadequate
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>[Rem: You seem very worried about Nee-sama. Subaru-kun, do you actually……..]
>Rem folds her arms. In response to Subaru, him going into deep thought, she puts her hand on her mouth upon suddenly realizing something. That reaction makes Subaru lose his breath, thinking that she may have seen through him planning a celebration.
>Rem looks down quietly with her light blue eyes in reaction to Subaru’s state and says
>[Rem: No, maybe it just can’t be helped. Nee-sama is perfect, after all……..but Nee-sama has Roswaal-sama, so it might be difficult.]
No Rem. Do not joke about that.
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>>153895754
Maybe. That death did come after a lot of other deaths so it could've piled up some.
This means his deaths in Pristeria would've done this too, because presumably Felix would have healed him once they recovered his corpse.

>>153895775
When you know from the outset that you're going to fail it's not such a blow when you do
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>>153894963
All that mayo
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>>153895775
>a woman he regards as #1
He doesn't actually feel that way, that's actually just aplomb.
He thinks of her as the "designated heroine" and acts accordingly.
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>>153895775
Emilia is sort of the dream girl anyway. It comes up in his descriptions of how he loves her that he views her as somewhat uncertain and unobtainable to begin with. He might've fixed that a bit now that he doesn't put her as much on a pedestal.
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Ferri is pure and deserves endless happiness with Crusch-sama.
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>>153895869
That was mayo of parental fetishization
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>>153895869
But he doesn't actually like mayo all that much, he's faking to remind him of his family. A fake mayojin.
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So wait does Return by Death hit the universal rewind button or are there a bunch of timelines where Subaru is dead and everyone has to go on without him?
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>>153895920

I think it's rewind
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>>153895869
A true glutton would've drained that bath. If his parents knew Rem had done that they would've demanded Subaru marry her on the spot.
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>>153895920
Purposefully left unconfirmed
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>>153895920
It could work either way and only Satella knows the truth, maybe. I lean more towards a rewind for various reasons.
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>>153895920
It's ambiguous, but Echidna insinuates the latter while trying to spook Pleiades into submission.
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>>153895938
>Subaru, listen to your father
>This is the most important thing I will ever say to you son
>Look at me
>Mayo bath
>Don't look away, this is important
>Mayo bath Subaru
>A bathtub, full of mayo
>Can you see it Subaru?
>Now you marry that blueberry right now
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So cute and pure
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Crusch-sama is CUTE and PURE and BEAUTIFUL
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These are your Rem and Emilia for tonight.

http://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?mode=medium&illust_id=61628622
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>>153896479
He gets a raging boner whenever he thinks of stelly
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Alright I'm at episode 8 and I want a spoiler
Does Subaru really get only 3 respawns per "save point" or did the hand reach out to him because he was trying to tell Emilia his secret?
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>>153896512
His respawn is unlimited, the hand grabs his heart everytime he tries to tell anyone about his respawn ability.
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I often forget how both Rem and Emilia are specialized in Ice magic

also throwing such an icicle with little effort is pretty baller, so much for being a below average Oni
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>>153896583
Funny what happens in arc 4 in regards to that.
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Rem is really cute and shitty subaru doesn't deserve her
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>>153897681
He's working on becoming deserving of her.
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>>153896760
Actually, doesn't Rem specialize in water magic, while Emilia fire/ice? Or is Emilia's attribute different from Puck?
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>>153897681
Honestly, for everything Subaru has done for her, I think he does deserve her. Besides, she would be far from being best girl if it wasn't for him anyway.
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>>153898006
Emilia is ice/water, Puck is fire, Rem is water I think
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>>153898037
Huh. Fortuna/Sirius is fire/ice though, right?
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>It's already been 3 months since the EX translator died
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Can anybody spoil who is Puck? He wanted to destroy the world after Emilia's death. He is the strongest creature in ReZero world?
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>>153898386

Reinhard can one-shot Shitck
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>>153898006
>>153898037
Rem has the water attribute, and she uses her water magic to perform ice attacks; while not as goog as Ferris she is capable to use water magic for healing

Puck is a Fire spirit, and in the bad loops in which he grows everything freezes because he's sucking fire mana from the surroundings

Emilia I think someone mentioned she might even have all the 6 attributes, but as of now she has only used water magic, to perform ice attacks, that as of lately under Subaru's suggestion she has refined to materializing weapons made of ice, and lesser healing
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>>153898775
That reminds me, how the fuck was Puck able to slash Toyota's head off in a clean cut? That's more of a wind thingy from what we've seen so far
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>>153899046
You can't really tell if it was a clean cut or not, the head just fell off, most likely because by freezing the neck became brittle
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Man this anime...

I decided to marathon it and now I'm left feeling restless.
Remilia reminded me a lot of Kuroyukihime from Accel World, but Rem felt like something completely new. I hope this series doesn't die off like Accel World.
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>oh hey guys there's like this huge white whale that deletes you from everyone else's memory if it kills you
>yeah I know, it killed my wife that I loved so much

What did they mean by this, lads?
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>>153899604
Only if you get absorbed by the fog it excretes will you be removed from everybody's memory, at least that's what I thought from watching only the anime.
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>>153887426

>[Subaru: You are having a really unexpected misunderstanding! No way! It’s not like that at all! That would be way too fearless of me with how Ram’s been treating me up until today!]

>[Rem: Yes, I know. I was kidding.]

>Rem smiles with a chuckle, and she sticks her tongue out at Subaru, who frantically explained himself. That lovely gesture makes Subaru feel relieved.
>[Subaru: This time it’s about a celebration for Rem, so I especially didn’t want to slack off.]

>[Rem: …...Th―that’s]

>[Subaru: Yeah. That’s how it is…….wait.]

>Subaru was trying to have a monologue, but he clearly realized that he was having a conversation with someone, and he turned around.

>When he did, he saw Rem put her hand on her blushed cheeks, wiggling her hips shyly. Rem closes her eyes, and when she let out a feverish sigh, she said

>[Rem: Subaru-kun trying his hardest for me…....that alone is enough to fill my heart.]

Rem is fucking cute. Someone please stop her.
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>>153899604
It only deletes a character from memory if they're hit with the fog blasts.
and I'm pretty sure the White Whale wasn't directly responsible for Theresia's death
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Can somebody explain current situation.
As i understand WN is the source. What about anime? What part of already released WN it cover? What about sequel? Any rumors? When to expect? Do we have information about what part of the story already told in WN?
For example Oda said that it is about 70-75% of the story at this moment in One Piece.
Thx in advance.
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>>153899835
The WN is currently at arc 6 and with this about 50% of the story. The anime covers arc 1-3. No news about a sequel.
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>>153899652
>When he did, he saw Rem put her hand on her blushed cheeks, wiggling her hips shyly. Rem closes her eyes, and when she let out a feverish sigh, she said
>[Rem: Subaru-kun trying his hardest for me…....that alone is enough to fill my heart.]

There is now way she's not acting like this on purpose to unnerve him

In general it seems that after she got past her complex Rem developed quite a penchant for chewing the scenery in yet subtle ways
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>>153899934
Yeah this is the feeling I get from her. Usually it feels very forced and unnatural when characters act cute cause they try too hard but I don't get this feeling when I read Rem's lines.
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>>153899934
She knows her husband too well.
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>>153899835
The WN is in the initial part of arc 6, the story is slated to have 11 arcs, but this isn't a very reliable metric for assessing at which percentace we are because Arcs have been of really different lengths.
The anime covers the first 3 arcs but for various reasons they cut a lot of stuff from arc 3 and the anime ended right before the real ending of the arc in order to have a more happy closure.

Given how successful it was a second season is likely but, as the anime adapts the LN instead of directly going from the WN, there isn't enough material as of now for a full season so I'd say we won't hear about it before the end of this year at the very least.

About what has been told in the WN there are ongoing translations by commendable volunteers, here's a list:
http://pastebin.com/u3VJggF6
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>>153899891
>>153900328
Thx.
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>>153887246
Could someone kindly give me a link for the translated LN? I want to read from the end of anime.
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>>153900661
ctrl + f pastebin
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>>153894477
>it was Emilia's face in his mind, in his thoughts, in his heart.
Hah, if only. It would be easier if that was the case. He's got the blueberry fever and there's no cure.
In his words, she has taken too big of a piece of his heart now.
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>A long time ago, Carmilla was a normal girl who was loved by the people in her village, and even had a fiancé. However, one day a man of power came to the man and desired her. >Angered by the man's actions, the villagers rose up in defiance and fought against him, eventually burning him down along with his mansion. The cities and villages around theirs began to regard them as dangerous, causing the fighting to spread, and soon their force was toppling countries, all the while claiming that it was for her sake. Carmilla began to be regarded as a heavenly maiden, nevertheless she didn't desire such a thing, and saw that they were being misled by their own fantasies and manipulated by their ideals. After they had toppled a large country, her fiancé proposed to her at the top of the castle, though she ignored him and left everything behind, despairing that what she had originally wanted no longer existed.

If anything, this is how Subaru fucking acts to Emilia.
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>>153899652
Every move is calculated. There's no stopping the blueberry.
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>>153898036
This. It's funny how many people are so quick to call Subaru shitty after he rejects Rem even though the point of that fucking confession is to remind both Subaru and everyone that Subaru is nowhere near as bad as he made himself out to be and that Rem's love for Subaru is very well justified and explained by Subaru's heroic acts and his attachment to her in arc 2+ Not to mention that if Subaru hadn't been there and From Zero'ed her in episode 11, Rem would have never become the person we grow to love now. Likewise, if Rem hadn't been there and given Subaru the From Zero speech and had him take on the task of being her hero, Subaru would have not become as based as he is now. So saying those two aren't meant to be together or don't deserve each other is straight up dumb and silly.
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>>153899835
>>153900607
>Thx
Stop that
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>>153903774
Fuck off autist.
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>>153903774
What's wrong with it?
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>>153895777
Makes me wonder what Rem's reactions would be if Ram actually had romantic feelings for Barusu. Judging by how Rem could casually joke about Barusu and Ram being a couple, it doesn't seem like she would oppose it when it happens.
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>>153898386
He's an artificial spirit created by the Witch of Greed, and he used to be a human. That's all we know.

He's far from the strongest in the setting, but at the time he made his contract with Emilia he was very capable of killing everyone everywhere.
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>>153904574
She'd be very depressed about it, make no mistake.
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>>153904574
She wants them to get along and she'd probably tolerate it if they were a couple but she certainly wouldn't be happy about it,
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>>153898775
Emilia can use spirits to access other elements, and Garf can heal despite being an Earth user. I'm pretty sure Emilia is a fire user like Puck.
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>>153904574
There's a difference between joking about something that's never going to happen, and it actually happening.
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Emilia is going to become the Whitch and main antagonist, right?
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>>153905228
She'll stop being the heroine at Arc 10.
Any details beyond that are pure speculation.
If anyone goes main villain, it'll be Subaru.
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>>153905228
I certainly hope not. That feels like it'd be a weak twist.

>>153905376
Everyone keeps using that argument but. What if he used it giving the idea that she would stop being the heroine with arc 10 being the ending in mind? Kinda like a joke "she'll stop being the heroine because the story is over".

I know about the supposed arc 11, but we also don't know what he plans. And i doubt he'd give away such a huge spoiler without it being a joke.
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>>153904574
She would respect Subaru's wishes and appreciate that her sister found love.

But she also would be heartbroken
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>>153905428
That a story is valued in a twist to plot ratio is new to me
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>>153905428
I hope Subaru will have to kill her himself together with the WoE or she somehow sacrifices herself in order to safe everyone and kill the WoE. It would fit the hero theme either way.
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>>153902766
I call Subaru shitty because he's a two-timer
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>>153905605
I personally wish for a true happy ending, but given the series' tone, it's going too be a bittersweet one at best.
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>>153905705
You have 2 girls and 1 boy, how you can get happy ending with this?
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>>153905763
By being a shitty two timer.
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>>153904637
>>153904941
>>153905468
Really? I imagine Rem's sisterly love and respect for Ram would be able to negate any jealous and irritating feelings Rem has for not having Subaru exclusively. Plus, Rem is selfless so I thought she wouldn't mind having to share Subaru.

>>153905078
Rem can totally be dead serious when joking though (see pic related). And in this case, because there is no hostility in her word at all, one would think she is somewhat with the idea of Ram and Barusu being together.
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>>153905763
One wedding ring to rule them all!
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>>153899580
Well if you want to descend into the rabbit hole that is Re:Zero the pastebin is right there. Just becareful not to fall into a spiraling depression like a number of anons did.
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>>153905822
>Plus, Rem is selfless so I thought she wouldn't mind having to share Subaru.
It's made pretty clear that there are plenty of things she minds. Selflessness is something she makes an effort for, and it's not a good thing.
>Rem can totally be dead serious when joking though
She can be, but Ram getting with Subaru would probably trigger her inferiority complex like crazy. She wouldn't be able to joke about it like that.
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>>153899604
Lets just say, the white whale did not kill Theresia and she is still alive.
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>>153905763
>>153905819
By the way how things are going Subaru will serve Emilia like a proper knight and Rem will be his wife.
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>>153905763
Marry Rem and lovingly penetrate her multiple times every night

Adopt Emilia
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>>153905763
Make a family again
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Betelgeuse Q&A

http://pastebin.com/TUV8u3yq
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>>153906225
The part where Subaru has to prove to the blueberry that he is not a jerk after dumping Emilia out of the blue and that he will stay loyal to the blueberry for the remainder of their life would be very tricky and tough.
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>>153906708
Made simple by adopting Emilia
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>Q: How have Subaru’s glorious/inglorious battle injuries healed up? I think I remember seeing something like there were scars left in Arc 2.
>A: His scars from the duel with Julius, the white whale battle, and the fight with Betelgeuse were healed by Ferris, so there’s nothing left, but the cut on his stomach from Arc 1, the bite scars from the mabeasts in Arc 2, Arc 4’s fight with Garfiel, and the burn scars aren’t too visible, but they’re there. Fortunately, there’s nothing too obvious on his face. He thinks a scar on the cheek would look cool, so he wouldn’t mind having one… but he hasn’t got one.

Subaru has a lot of scars. I need a shirtless Subaru now.
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>>153899580
>but Rem felt like something completely new.
Did she? I kind of think one of the main things that works for her is that her pros and cons are rooted in the same issues. Her positive traits are just another side to her negative ones.
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>>153905822
>Really? I imagine Rem's sisterly love and respect for Ram would be able to negate any jealous and irritating feelings
It didn't even stop her from being jealous of Ram's horn. It was kind of a bit deal and the source of her self depreciating nature. Unless you did some serious work on changing her underlying mentality its not actually possible to romance both twins.
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>>153906665
>Q: If Betelgeuse was sane, would his fighting ability improve? I get the impression it’s diminished.
>A: It is diminished, indeed. (June 05, 2014 arc4)

So the more insane you are and the more you give in the stronger you get eh?
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This Ogre story relates more to Ram/Rem or Rem/Emilia?
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>>153906839
Isn't this saying the opposite of that? He's weaker because he's crazy
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>>153887246

If he picks Rem, he literally has no more reason to hang around Emilia. There is no more story.

This is why in the ending where he decides to run off with Rem, the story ends. He simply leaves, because why would you hang around someone who keeps getting you killed?
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>>153906863
Rem/Emilia mostly. Ram doesn't really want to be friendly.
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>>153906863
On the surface it seems like it'd be Ram/Rem, but Ram really doesn't fit it at all after even a cursory examination.
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>>153906885
Not an excuse since they're a couple now
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>>153906885
If he picks Rem he could still care about Emilia
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>>153906665
>Q: Julius has the Blessing of Gathering Spirits; how effective was this blessing on Betelgeuse? Mr. Betelgeuse is a spirit after all, so it should have had an effect. It seems like it might have made him really angry, though.
>A: With lesser spirits and quasispirits, the effect is immediate, but when they’ve advanced to the status of spirit, it’s maybe not that effective. For someone like Betelgeuse, it would affect his faith, so yeah, he’d probably be very angry.

The fujos did this
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>>153906885
He can bang Rem and still support Emilia as a candidate anon. Plus Rem would still be part of the Emilia camp and involved in all the random shit unless he tries to elope and run away again, but since that costs Ram her life its sort of a dick thing to do to Rem.
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>>153906885
>If he picks Rem, he literally has no more reason to hang around Emilia. There is no more story.
He's got a ton of friends there, a position of political power and responsibility, and he says he believes in Emilia's ideals. At this point, he's too deeply involved to just run off, even if he didn't want to get with Emilia.
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Reminder that Ram will chew Subaru out
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>>153906959
You really don't have to post it in every single thread, nee-sama!
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>>153906926
>>153906951

Sure, but that would make an immensely less interesting story.

> "Oh, I'm supporting this girl because...Well, I guess I'm her friend. That's basically why I hang around."

That sounds lame even to me.
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>Q: I thought that Betelgeuse could only possess certain individuals, but I guess I was mistaken. If I wasn’t mistaken, is there a reason for it? Also, can he exist in a state where he’s not possessing anyone?
>A: The only people Betelgeuse is able to possess are those who are suited to being possessed and controlled by him. A trained spirit arts user, or someone who is simply physically resilient. The method of checking is using the miasma of ‘Sloth’; someone who fails their sanity point check is no longer able to fight against Betelgeuse. Also, as Betelgeuse is an irregular spirit, he’s not able to exist in the state where he’s not possessing someone. If he could do that, he wouldn’t have done something like pursuing in a body that was nearly a corpse.

That solves some questions I had
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>>153906665
>Q: Is Betelgeuse unable to possess someone with a blessing?
>A: That’s not the case, however at the moment he possessed them, the effect of the blessing would be removed by the witch gene.

This is interesting because it from this I take that Authorities are sort of an opposite to Blessings
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>Q: If you have skill with Sloth’s ability, could you annihilate an enemy without taking a step, and live a life of depravity?
>A: Betelgeuse’s authority is the ‘Unseen Hand’, but if the gene of Sloth adapted to a different person, it would produce a different ability. In Mr. Bete’s case, he didn’t use the Unseen Hand much and moved around quite a bit on his own. He made his own tea, and things like that. He did his own cleaning, too.
Well, that's confirmation that everyone gets their own special power.
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>>153907027
A general supporting his queen while also having a wife who he fights along with and props him up? Sounds like something that can set up a crusade.
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>Q: In arc 3, Mr. Bete noticed Subaru’s scent, and treated him a little bit politely; is that related to the fingers bowing to him before he met Mr. Bete? Do the fingers also have the ability to smell that scent?
>A: “Do that!” was written in their gospels.
So, it's beginning to sound like most Cultists actually can't smell the scent. Well, that's something.
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>Q: Arc 4 showed us a new side to Betelgeuse, but honestly, were you expecting him to become so popular during arc 3? Or, like Rem, was he a character that improved his status as you thought about him?
>A: I didn’t expect him to become popular, but he was going to have a complex background from the start, so things are going as planned. Not like Rem!
Off the rails.
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>>153906665
>Q: Arc 4 showed us a new side to Betelgeuse, but honestly, were you expecting him to become so popular during arc 3? Or, like Rem, was he a character that improved his status as you thought about him?
>A: I didn’t expect him to become popular, but he was going to have a complex background from the start, so things are going as planned. Not like Rem!
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>>153907175
Seems so. So could Pete smell him because he's a spirit or because he's a bishop? How do the other bishops react?
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>>153907270
I don't think any other Bishop mentions it.
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>>153907027
God save the queen
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>Q: Now that I think about it, where did Betelgeuse’s gospel go?
>A: It’s probably on a bookshelf in Subaru’s room.
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>>153906665
>Q: It seems like most of the bosses in this story are dirty types who revive themselves or possess people, but when I thought about it, Subaru is pretty bad, too. Don’t tell me Subaru is the last boss? lol
>A: It would depend on the individual's viewpoint, but to Bishop Betelgeuse at least, he was a nightmarish opponent.

Dark Lord when?
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>>153907421
Garf didn't appreciate it much either
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>>153907175
He said his coming was not shown in the gospel though.
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>>153907468
Not in his, but apparently in the regular cultist's
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>>153907468
Actually that happened in the first loop, only after that things should go off the rails
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>Q: It seems that spirits have affinities, so since Mr. Bete was using earth magic, is it safe to say that he’s an earth spirit?
>A: Yes, that’s right. He was originally a lesser spirit of earth.

So spirits can evolve?
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>>153907230
After the story is done I'd love to see what changed between the first and the final draft
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>>153907505
Oh right, it's a question about the regular cultists.
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>>153907530
How would they evolve I wonder? Does it have to do with how much mana they absorb?
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>>153907530
Emilia mentioned that in like episode 1 regarding lesser spirits.
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>Q: Why didn’t Betelgeuse possess ‘Juli’, knowing he was a spirit arts user and nearby? It seems like possessing Juli would give him a better improvement in fighting strength.
>A: He can’t jump into a spirit arts user that already has a contract. I thought I had written about this around the time of the battle against Betelgeuse, but if I forgot, sorry about that. As a result, if Subaru had a contract with Beako, Betelgeuse would have been completely powerless.

I guess that explains why he was freaking out when he saw a spirit helping Subaru?
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How half-elfs and demons aging in ReZero world?
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>>153907575
So, why tell the regulars and not Betelgeuse? I suppose it could be because he's supposed to kill Bete, but the rest of the mundane cultists are meant to recognize and bow to him in time.
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>>153907731
Emilia clearly ages much slower than humans, while by Rem's wish it seems that oni and humans have the same lifespan.
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>>153907731
Half-elves live for centuries. Oni seem to have human lifespans.
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>>153907770
So far the gospels feel more like a "keikaku master plan" sort of deal.

They probably lead the cultists around as needed in order to fulfill some purpose, aside from the bishop's desired thing.
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>>153907421
>Dark Lord when?
Why would Subaru want to obliterate everything he vows to protect, though? Also Subaru is very sane so unless there's something wrong happening to his mentality, the chance of him becoming dark lord is slim.
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I heard that arc 4 was a monster but I did not expect that 116 chapters later Emilia still wouldn't have the first trial beaten.
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>>153908015
>unless there's something wrong happening to his mentality

About that
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>>153908077
But doesn't he still behave very normally as of arc 6?
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>>153907770
Actually the weird part here is that the regular guy's books told them something that shouldn't normally happen. Subaru not being in Pete's book makes sort of sense since he isn't supposed to show up until later.
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>>153907800
>>153907828
Another point for oni then. We don't need another aragorn/arwen situation.
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>>153908158
Yeah, but normal Subaru behavior is anything but normal though.
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Why does summaryanon call Petelgeuse as Betelgeux?
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>>153905036
Emilia is a Water user, and Garf has an improved regeneration because of a Blessing
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>>153908412
Just one of his naming quirks.
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>>153908464
Her element is Fire actually. Rem has Water magic affinity, while Puck was controlling Emilia's fire mana. Why she basically always uses her fire mana to make ice I have no idea, but the concern with her providing mana to Ram was that her fire mana is too strong and would throw off the balance. She also needs lesser spirits to heal someone instead of Rem who heals someone directly because that's not actually her affinity.

>>153908412
Petelgeuse is already a weird misspelling, but it bugs him, so he went looking for an archaic alternate spelling of the name to use instead to retain that it is spelled oddly.
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>>153908033
She does the first two pretty quickly I think
How many chapters does arc 4 have in total?
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>>153908753
I think 130 or somewhere around there.
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>>153891532
Thanks
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>>153907027
Murdering with a single line the best love confession ever told in anime from a girl he even likes is lame too

And having Subaru being undecided between a girl he loves back with a sweet romance and one he loves just because the plot asks for it isn't interesting either.
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>>153909360
I wonder how better that scene would have been if that single line was omitted. But then, the drama and love triangle thingy wouldn't have been as huge and unpredictable if it was so easy to know whom Subaru would choose.
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>>153909838
By the way, this proto-From Zero comic is pretty good.
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Why don't they just stick all the inhabitants of Sanctuary in a cart and have Otto drive them through the barrier if fainting is their biggest problem?
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>>153909946
They tried that and Garf murdered everyone when he went berserk in his tiger state.
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>>153910017
Those were the refugees, though. I'm talking about the demi human scummers.
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>>153910109
Didn't their souls get stuck in sanctuary if they tried to leave, and only the body could get out?

I think Garf and Frederica are like 1/4 demi.
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The artist choose a more unique look for Shaula in this one, aside from just the desert cloak, hot-pants an top.
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>>153909946
They won't wake up if they're brought outside
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>>153910253
I'd explore her rooms and make her take some trials, if you know what I mean.
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>>153910253
Every iteration of Shaula she looks like a cake
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>>153910253
Fugel is a lucky man
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>>153910253
I want to FUCK Shaula
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>Ferri in the VN
>Ferri in Arc 5
>Ferri back in the manga next chapter
>Day of Crusch-sama's recovery drawing closer with every new chapter
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>>153910770
>Day of Crusch-sama's recovery drawing closer with every new chapter
You know screwing over Crusch is like Tappei's fetish. Subaru and Co. are going to fix her memories but give her super cancer or something.
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>rewatched episode 15
Fucking hell. I can't blame Subaru wanting to run away from it all after that
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>>153910902
>You know screwing over Crusch is like Tappei's fetish.
Tbh, he screws everyone. I think he called Crusch his wife at some point or something?
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>>153910907
Don't worry he experiences worse
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>>153910907
I'm surprised he didn't end up going full Archbishop after all of that
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>>153910902

Tappei is /my guy/ and I trust him with my heart and soul. He will not hurt Ferri or Crusch-sama anymore.
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>>153911018
He didn't know he could really. RbD is kind of cute, but as long as he's still shitty and weak its not that great.
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>>153911072
>Tappei is /my guy/ and I trust him with my heart and soul. He will not hurt Ferri or Crusch-sama anymore.
>Tappei
>Won't hurt someone anymore
Thanks for the giggle mate
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>>153911075
>as long as he's still shitty and weak its not that great

Oh how I want to spoil but I'll wait
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>>153906922
Anon, they can't be a couple because they haven't even had a proper date yet and one of them is literally doing nothing but sleeping all day.
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>>153911127
I know what he does, but in the context of just arc 3 he has nothing to go dark lord with, he just sucks.
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>>153911208
They've had at least 2 dates.
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>>153907027
>Sure, but that would make an immensely less interesting story.

It doesn't always have to revolve around a love interest. People care about more than just their significant other, after all.

The best moment in Attack on Titan was when Eren had been knocked unconscious inside his own titan form, and his friend was trying to snap him out of it. He tried all the usual schticks - the love interest, revenge for his slain family - and it all failed. In the end, he woke Eren up by reminding him of his lifelong wish - the principles that defined his being - the idea that all the world belongs to humanity, and that being penned up in a prison is wrong to the core of it.

That's the conviction of revolutionaries and rebels that have shaken the mightiest of empires to their core, and destroyed them. And around episode 15-17, Subaru got a tour de force of the two-faced callousness and self-serving selfishness of the other priestess candidates; the heartless, backstabbing cruelty that lurks at the core of this society, in the highest halls of power. Emilia is the only one, the only candidate who seems to deserve the throne - the only one who deserves to live, even, and she's consistently the one fated to die.

Sure, the fate of a nation hangs in the balance. But on a personal level, saving Emilia is both doing something good, and spiting all the bastards at the same time. If it was *just* Subaru's impulse to "do the right thing," he would never manage - because to win, he's going to have to best the bastards at their own game - and become a monster himself. But he's also angry enough that he'd do anything to see these other bastards *lose.*

Evil men get away with things every day, and people just continue on with their lives. Evil is quite often routine, and banal. But nobody, and I mean *nobody,* can tolerate a prick. And these candidates have a higher prick quotient than a dire porcupine.
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>>153911208
They've had 2 dates already. 3 dates if you count the loops at the mansion.
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>>153911391

>Emilia is the only one, the only candidate who seems to deserve the throne - the only one who deserves to live

No.
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>>153911441
I'm pretty sure that 8n that loop Crusch deliberately left Emilia to die because it was more conveniente
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>>153911391
>And these candidates have a higher prick quotient than a dire porcupine.
Crusch isn't that bad. Anastasia is a toss up because she's a greedy jew, but yeah, Felt and Priscilla are pretty bitchy.
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>>153911319
>>153911414
>2 dates
In what story do those dates happen? I just know that the most recent one ends up with Rem getting mad and even threatening Subaru's life expectancy by planning to pull 10 more pranks on him so it's hardly called a date. So yeah you can't just call it a date if Subaru and Rem don't even make any romantic gesture for each other on their "date."
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>>153910017
So that's what it looks like. The image I had of Garfiel and his beast form were way off.
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>>153911496
Not exactly. She was assessing Subaru, and his reasoning sucked, he couldn't explain why he knows what he does, but he doesn't seem to be lying. From her perspective he's either insane with a grudge and doesn't want to lose her men for that or he's deliberately a cultist trying to lead her guys into a trap. She doesn't understand what he's doing and he has nothing to offer, so its not worth risking the lives of those under her command.

All of them gave Subaru a bitch test of sorts, and he failed all three.
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>>153911595
Yeah, I was expecting more an actual Tiger and not the Amazin' Hulk
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>>153911562
>threatening Subaru's life.

Lol OK..