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This is Emiya Shirou

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thoughts?
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Is this in the timeline where he became a Vampire Hunter and changed his race for some reason
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>>153797525
Well, one of the theories is that this Shirou is a DAA so...
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>Shirou becomes a nigger
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>>153797323
>steals swords all the time
>becomes a nigger

What did Nasu mean by this?
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He /Blade/ now?
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>>153797323
At least post the CM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IC8V2ZvarvQ
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>>153797323
>>153799203
Grand Order was a mistake.
Who will old guy be? I like dapper old men and his design is the least offensive I've seen from FGO in a while, so he better not be someone stupid.
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>>153799329
Nobody knows yet but maybe Moriarty since Holmes shows up in the same chapter.
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>>153799329
Moriarty.
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They sure enjoy making Shirou browner.
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>>153799595
>>153799600
Well, at least his design isn't awful.

I do realise it's a lazy cashgrab but I still hate how wasteful FGO is. There are countless interesting historical figures from throughout history they could use but they just steal some fictional character, or worse, shit out another WaifuAlter and call it a day.
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>>153799203
Some japs are even saying that this EMIYA isn't even Shirou, but an african kid saved by Kiritsugu. This theory is based in his skin because this EMIYA is too fucking black with nigger lips, and there isn't a valid reason for the lips thing.

But that is difficult because to project stuff, to Kanshou and Bakuya and to summon ULW, you need Avalon in your body to change his Origin to Sword.

I really don't know how they will explain this bullshit, but after reading some theories I really wish this one>>153797629 wins, because it's the less retarded one.

Now I like my normal redman even more.
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>>153797323
>literally Wesley Snipes
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>Enjou was the worthless man
>Shirou is the red man
>Shirou was the useless black man
>Kotomine Shirou wasn't the red man
>Illya was the red man
>brown Illya is the red man as well
>Shirou is now a full nigger
What the fucking fuck
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>>153801141
being a sword is suffering
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If this Shirou fucks a Seiba or one of her clones, does it counts as getting BLACKED?
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>Shirou has a BBC now
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The other characters in this chapter is fictional characters from classic works instead of historical/mythological one.

So maybe this Emiya is based on Emiya as real person in universe but his backstory distored by the people who witnessed him as counter guardian, turning him into urban legend sort of character.

>they saw a tanned man doing morally questionable things
>"yeah, that guy was total nigga"
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Please don't make fun of Shirou
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>>153801515
top lel

The thing is Nasu isn't writing these EoR chapters, so we really don't know what kind of bullshit we'll get. In fact, Nasu already said he won't do shit for EoR (1.5), and everything will be done by Sakurai (Fragments), Higashide (Apocrypha) and Hoshizora (maybe Minase too?).
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>>153801393
Yes.

>>153801620
Broski, he wants to be bullied, why else would he make it so easy? He even bullies himself to death several time.
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https://twitter.com/mince42291/status/834376574711394304

What will the alternate reading even be for Unlimited Lost Works?

There's no way it'll be as retarded as Infinite Creation of Lost right?
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>>153797323
dunno what the hell is going on but that attack was cool

get shot by bullet, fuck you you're not impaled with swords from the inside
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>>153797323
He needs to wash the grail mud off
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>>153801778
You said it like they won't do some bullshit even if they have never done it before.
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>>153801915
All the "bullshit" by now wrote by Nasu makes perfect sense and isn't forced. Camelot and Babylonia are examples of that.

But Emiya Alter literally changed races, he's a nigger now, just look at those lips. He's african american now.
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>Chapter full of just Alters and Avengers(and Sherlock Holmes) in the modern era Shinjuku
>Full edge chapter
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>>153802012
>Camelot
>make sense

Where is my smug red man when I need it?
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Shirou has access to origin bullet now

NP is literally shooting the enemy with a world of swords, that explodes into sword virus when it hits them.
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>>153802130
sorry brah we niggers now
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>>153802189
a nigger with a gun. innovative. captivating.
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>>153802207
You = racis

The guns are just modded Kansho and Bakuya if you look closely.
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>>153802251
doesn't change the fact that it's a black man with a gun.
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>>153802189
Doesn't look like Origin buller though. It looks more like summoning his Reality Marble inside his enemies by using the bullet as a catalyst.

If it were Origin, the bullet would only turn to swords the affected area, but instead he's even summoning the RM.
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>>153802288
Is this also a black women to you?

Shirou is an asian with a rare genetic defect, where he gets darker the more he abuses projection magic beyond his ability.
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>>153802341
>Shirou is an asian with a rare genetic defect, where he gets darker the more he abuses projection magic beyond his ability.
He gets blacker because he uses his nerves as Magic Circuits, which affects his skin and gives him slow necrosis. Don't make shit up.
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>>153797323
You literally can't make this shit up. The first black main character variant, Avenger, is a pedophile rapist with a knife and the second is this ballin nigga toting around guns akimbo.
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>>153802418
You're the one making shit up. That's not the reason at all, go read the VN.
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>>153802494
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>>153802494
It is though
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>>153802462
To be fair, Avenger being a Pedophile Rapist is his job.

But he does spend a not insignificant amount of time being a black animal that is essentially rioting while demanding to have his wish granted, truly Nasu could see the future when writing this stuff.
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Her smile and gag character status = Gone
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>>153797323
(((They))) are slowly but surely making japan accept diversity.
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>>153803183
SHUT IT DOWN
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>>153797323
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>>153797323
I don't understand. I knew he was losing pigment dark because of the magic grail but he's even darker now? someone explain
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>>153802418
I don't think necrosis is the right word. You are right though that the overuse of thaumaturgy is the reason for his tanned skin and white hair.
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>>153803118
>first time MC appears in the CM
>it's Memeko
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>>153803374
Well, when Archer healed Shirou in UBW he said "wew lad I expected to see necrosis 2bh bruh".
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>>153803361
Its EMIYA Alter

Mud makes him stronger, and darker.

>Because of the grail magic
He was getting darker and darker in life due to abusing magic and shit.
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>>153803527
Grail mud gives you nigger lips?
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>>153803467
Your reasoning is retarded
>He said necrosis
>That clearly means he's talking about the darkening of pigments and stuff

No, he was referencing how he almost lost a body part the first time he projected since his body wasn't used to it. Doing it suddenly like that causes side effects, such as losing feeling and sword virus

The necrosis isn't the same thing as darkening.
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I was curious about EMIYA BLACKED.

Then this guy got revealed.
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>>153799595
Alan Quartermain
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Has Type Moon gone too far with abusing their characters? Next they'll pull some bullshit where they age down a character just so they can have her make out with other lolis so the pedophiles of the world can whip their dicks around.

Oh wait.
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>>153803827
WUZ
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>>153797323
This is only a different use of UBW because the real name is still the same: Infinite Creation of Swords.

It's like Arturia yelling Excalibur Morgan but the true name of the hougu is the same: Sword of Promised Victory.
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>>153803735
Too many Avengers!
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>>153803735
No point in talking about that guy, the names of servants are no longer revealed until you actually play through the story properly. EMIYA Alter was only revealed since he was too obvious. He's only called Avenger of Shinjuku for now, real name is hidden. Only known piece is that he seems German

>>153803868
>Any time a strange design is released its posted on /a/ to see /a/fags react
>/a/fags start thinking all the designs are shit and strange now because they hate looking into things further
>Turns out there are dozens of pretty normal or decent designs each story, but the joke designs get more of a reaction with you people. So those are the ones posted

Its not really hard to figure out why these threads are made, or why they specifically chose to talk about EMIYA Alter instead of the others.
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>>153804032
Well Angra has friends now, even if they are a bunch of chunni losers.
How will they feel about mysterious Headless Wolfman?
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UNLIMITED
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>>153804290
DINDU NUFFIN
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>>153803881
COUNTAH GUARDIAN
>>153804209
Chuuni friendship is best friendship
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>>153804359
N SHIEEEEEEEEET

Are you happy and entertained now?
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So when is he getting added?
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When dudes go Alter they turn darker and when girls do it they get paler. Even Cu Alter is slightly darker than his usual self. And I find of feel bad for Niggya since he doesn't even have his own music for his NP.
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>>153804510
>UB(L)W:Rap Version
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>>153804510
>When dudes go Alter they turn darker and when girls do it they get paler.
Majin Saber has been retconned into being Okita Alter and she's brown as fuck.
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>>153804510
Maybe so it makes their yellow eyes more striking? For the girls at least.
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>>153804141
Faggot, the fact that there always is one or more awful designs with every single update is pretty fucking pitiful. In total, it sums up to a huge ammount of cancer that Grand Order has put out, and continues accummulating as long as retards pay for it.

>>153804209
Expanding the Avenger "class" was a really stupid mistake. They have no distinction other than background story, when class is supposed to relate to fighting style/weapon used. Just more bullshit sprouting from the fact that it's a game and they needed to make use of all assets.
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>>153804599
She made the retcon herself, no by Nasu, so it's only in name, not lore.
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>>153804655
A shame the game couldn't have a consistent artstyle like Granblue.

But that would mean Takeuchi would actually have to work and draw things other than Saberfaces.
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What is with this Fate/Prototype that aired at the end of 2011? Were they planning something that never came to fruition? It feels like an ad.
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>>153804655
>Expanding the Avenger "class" was a really stupid mistake. They have no distinction other than background story, when class is supposed to relate to fighting style/weapon used. Just more bullshit sprouting from the fact that it's a game and they needed to make use of all assets.
Expanding the class has nothing to do with what you're mad about. You should be mad that the class exists at all.
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>>153798286
>shirou becomes kuro

poetry
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>>153804784
google, newfag
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>>153804791
Not really, it makes sense as an exception for Manjew because he's too weak to even have a proper "fighting style". It doesn't make sense for all those other shitty new Servants because they're more than strong enough and could easily fit in something else. Fucking Jeanne Alter is an Avenger, what the fuck.

>>153804844
Not him but you're trying too hard.
/fgog/ needs you back.
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>>153797323
Grand Order is trash that should be completely ignored.
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>>153804836
Shirou became a semen demon loli?
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>>153804844
I refuse.
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>Fate GO
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>>153797323
Not digging it at all.
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>>153804655
>They have no distinction other than background story, when class is supposed to relate to fighting style/weapon used.
Berserker is the class of people who went mad?
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>>153804929
You're acting like Avanger was an exclusive class just for Manjew, which it never was. And
>telling someone to use google for stupid questions
>more /vg/ than /a/
Kill yourself you retard.
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>>153804784
I keep forgetting how much better Proto Arthur is than Arturia. Imagine how much better Fate would have been if it was about a qt shy girl going from demure to badass through Arthur, Cu, and Gil routes.
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>>153800092
>>153804836
>>153804936
Goddammit I'm gonna die from cardiac arrest.
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>>153804836
shiro != shirou
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>>153805007
Yes, they are distinctly people who are fucking insane, which obviously influences their fighting style.
Some of the new shit uses contrivances to make "mostly sane" Berserkers, but that's the general idea.
Avenger just being anyone who wants revenge is the same as having a class for anyone obsessed with money or some shit like that.

>>153805044
Brushing someone off like that when they clearly just want to discuss the Prototype short and the reasons behind making it is the kind of attitude you'd expect from the tryhard /fgog/ redditors who want to be edgy because they're on 4chan.
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>>153805068
He's Saber with a cock and no character flaws, what do you see in him or are just one of those "the grass is always greener"fags?
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>>153805166
Saber's "it's so hard being a girl :((((" plotline was boring and contrived. Shirou's "chivalry" made it 20 times worse. At least with Arthur they could come of with a half decent storyline that doesn't revolve around justifying their pointless genderbending.
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>>153805158
A discussion that should have been between him and google.
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>>153805253
3/10 More subtlety next time, secondary.
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Why did Jap suddenly into diversity?

I thought Japan is safe from SJWism?
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>>153805269
>waaah, how dare people try to strike up a conversation
Like I said, /vg/ is over there.
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>>153805166
He does have a character flaw though, being such a horrible judge of character he helped a loli to nearly bring about the the end of the world.
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>>153805424
And then he cleaned the mess in such an anticlimatic manner.
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>>153805379
Then go, reply to him, answer his questions. Don't be a faggot and strike up conversation with him, because so far I've done more for that anon than you have.
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>>153804791
Angry Manjew as Avenger works since it was a custom cheat by the family behind the whole Grail War and Servant systems to start with, so it made sense that they would be able to "patch in" an additional class container should they wish.
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>>153804502
I won't be expecting any F/SF Servants until after it's over.
So quite a while...
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>>153805540
Manjew himself said in HA that Rider can be an Avenger.
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>>153805519
Damn anon, you're so nice for telling him to google, truly the nicest guy this side of Reddit.
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>>153797323
Pucci is that you
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>>153805338
>secondary
My dad is Nasu, how dare you.

Seriously though, Takeuchi ruined a good concept with genderbending.
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>>153799203
What's this event about?
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>>153805540
The idea that avenger was a custom angya only class was a misnomer for ten years due to mistranslation, BL, and that shitty Wiki that people believe even though it's shit

Ten years later it finally gets corrected and people are still "Buuut I thooooought... naaaassu, reeetcons!!!!"

It's not retcons, it was a mistake from back in the day that still haunts us. Avenger isn't angya class, avenger is anti hero class. It's not a class made only for angya, it was a class that was cooked up that angya could get into easy, but not angya only class.
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>>153805641
What's your obsession with reddit? You mention it like every other post and even capitalize it. Anyway, stop being a hypocrite and start striking up some conversation instead of trying to kill it.
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>>153805701
It's the continuation of their amazing main story, Nasu's so-called "greatest work".
Not even fucking kidding.
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>>153805757
I thought it ended, but I clearly see a HG up there.
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>>153805745
Doesn't "haunt us" any more than everything from FGO will for years.

>>153805755
>capitalizing, on MY board?!
Yeah buddy, just switch Reddit with /fgog/ on any of my posts and the result is the same.
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>>153805497
Yeah, it could have been better.
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>>153805825
Who are you quoting? Seriously, you aren't making any sense and haven't been for a while now. Try taking a break and organizing your thoughts.
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>>153805806
Part 1 is finished we're are in part 1.5 then part 2 eventually.
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>>153805832
Indeed, Fragments had a ton of wasted potential, Ozzy's fight was it's peak.
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>>153797629
Shirou can't be a DAA since the organizational itself don't exist in all worlds of Fate, he's fine being a DA though
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>>153805616
Yeah, just saying that the CLass does exist for a reason, and while it was definitely made to have a easy time summoning Angra it is still a container, it can be filled with all sorts of stuff.

But since they wanted the God Of Evil, it makes sense the class would have different attributes then the "Normal" ones.

It is essentially a container that is minmaxed to hold Angra, but other heroic spirits who share aspects with him qualifying for it is perfectly logical.

>>153805745
>it was a class that was cooked up that angya could get into easy, but not Angya only class, but it explains why it stands out.

Yep, they wanted to summon Angra, so they made a custom container that would be able to hold him since none of the ones they had could, and then presumably used a catalyst to ward off other potentials for the vessel, since we know they wanted the GOD OF EVIL specifically for the war that summoned him.
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>>153805806
Nah man, the past year and a few months of taking a dump on the Nasuverse was just "season 1".
They'll keep shitting out more as long as idiots eat it up.
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>>153797323
Is there a good image of his eyebrows? We'll know for sure if we can see them up-close. Shirou has very distinctive eyebrows, and it's one of the clues as to Archer's true identity in the original Fate.
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>>153805942
Try returning to your general hugbox if you want a shitstorm without proper discussion, little cuck.
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>>153805745
The concept of a "true antihero" is in itself supposed to be unobtainable, so all heroes who fit into that class are just the closest possible approximation. Angra Mainyu is basically the best fit possible.
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>>153805806
Part 1 ended. Part 1.5 is a interlude of 4 chapters written by different people. Part 2 is on the works by Nasu. Most nips loved part 1 but were blueballed because we can't roll Solomon, so hopefully Nasu delivers a new asspull.
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>>153806024
>implying GO cares about character designs enough to go into such details
Hahahahaha
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>>153797323

FGO continuing to prove it is digitized cancer. Now I can say there's a nigger version of Shirou. Whelp, you really done it now Nasu you fucking hack.
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>>153806082
Solomon is returning in Extella 2 anyways whatever we don't get in Grand Order is in Extella and vice versa
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>>153806058
You're still not making any sense, anon.
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>>153806107
You still haven't killed yourself, anon.
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>>153806106

>Post yfw we finally get an Archer route in Extella but your hero is DaQuan Shirou.
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>>153806133
Why would I have done that?
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>>153806106
>Solomon will cheat on Da Vinci with Hakuno

No. Also he's Guda's and Mashu's father figure. Hakuno has no business taking him away.
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>>153806195
Dude mooncell lmao also Hakuno has to fight Altera's siblings
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So Shirou and Hakuno get cucked in Grand Order, right?
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>>153806163
Because you're not doing the world any favors by continuing to breathe while you play mobage shit.
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>>153806106
I'll fly to Japan and murder Nasu if he puts Solomon in Extella and not FGO 2. The cunt already reminds us how destroyed Da Vinci is inside whenever he focuses on her now.
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>>153806249
When did I say I play mobageshit?
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Regardless of differences, we can all agree that the original Shirou, as a true seigi no mikata, would absolutely agree to gass all GOfags, right?
After all, overpopulation is a real problem, so you might as well start with literal wastes of space.
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>>153806264
Its probably not going to be FGO Solomon but rather Solomon before the events or an alternate one like Altera
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>>153806243
No. Nero, Tamamo, Jeanne and Arturia make explicit they aren't interested in Guda/Fujimaru. Tamamo even says she's "promised to another" in the future. Jeanne and Artoria (vanilla versions) really hold just master respect and give friend choco in Valentine. Jeanne has her love interest, Sieg, upcoming. Artoria sleeps with a 'lion stuffed toy' someone gave her according to mats.

There are altered or what if versions for waifubait who were never romantically involved with either. Tamamo Cat, Lancer Artoria, etc.
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>>153806243
Seibah wants Emiya dick in GO so no and Nasu cuck all the Nerofags and Tamamofags months ago when he posted in his blog about how Tamamo and Nero remember Hakuno and they are just faking the "I love my master!" In GO. That obviously pissed a lot of nips so they released Nero Bride for Valentines
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>>153806301
No more GO, please
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>>153806369
At least 2-4 more years of it because of Nasu
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>>153806350
So Shirou gets DFC and Gudako gets to stuff her face in Artittytoria's giant tits?

Everyone wins.
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>>153806301
He's not an edgelord, no. And the edgy EMIYA one is happy he has his father in Chaldea with him, plus he happily cooks meals for the Artorias. He'll tell you to fuck off.

There's an upcoming spin off manga by the guy who made the Shirou cooking manga with EMIYA cooking in Chaldea.
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>>153806369
Thank the people who made and are keeping this thread alive.
They're the braindead fucks that Nasu is making this for.
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>>153806456
/a/ can't influence Japan retard
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I've only seen Fate Zero and Unlimited Blade Works, and have no idea what anything else Fate related even is. Why is Shirou black now? This is something completely different right?
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>>153806422
Shirou gets Avalon Artoria (we know she's there). The one in Chaldea is maybe Archer, because of a suggestive my room line. In general there's an Artoria for everyone. Agravain (true) gets Lion King.
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>>153806456
So what do you think Nasu should do then?
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>>153806369
>Nasu saying he's having fun writing for GO
Atleast 2 more years
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>>153806422
Artoria is for Merlin only
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>>153806491
4 more years he has Extella 2 and maybe 3 to keep him occupied + whatever Fate he decides to create
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Reminder that GO and Extella are pretty much TYPE-MOON's only sources of money right now.

Again, this is what happens when 90% of your products come from a single man.
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>>153806477
It's an abnormality. We aren't even 100% sure is Shirou because they might reveal he's not. This singularity seems connected to Fragments because of 1999 date and Sakurai's delayed release of last volume of Fragments.

People can look different because of magic.
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>>153806474
Many of you are literally paying for the game.

>>153806487
Literally anything not mobage/gacha, as long as they don't have to keep churning out garbage designs and shitty new lore.
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>>153806514
Merlin has a thing for Vivian, man. Mind you, she wants nothing to do with him, but he still wants to tap dat fairy ass.
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>>153806532
Maybe if Ufotable would fucking release Heaven's Feel sometime this decade they'd have something else
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>>153806477
Nevermind this shit, just ignore it. It's actually shameful that this is in the same franchise as FSN and Zero.
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>>153806532
>what is Prisma
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>>153806491
>>153806527
He's writing a cd drama backstory of Edmond Dantes. They also announced it with female protagonist on the cover next to him. This CM had female protagonist (male protagonist has never appeared).

It does seem they are pushing Gudako+Dantes (and Gudao+Mashu).
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>>153806605
Pretty sure Nasu doesn't get Prisma money because that belongs to Kadokawa
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>>153806576
You sound like the type that gets so frustrated he can't read a story that he just lashes childishly in retaliation at anyone enjoying it.
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>>153806628
It's still TM, and that's what you were talking about.
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>>153806576
If GO didn't exist, they'd probably go bankrupt.

>>153806586
TYPE-MOON receives almost none of the profits from animated adaptations. All the proceeds go to UFOtable and Aniplex. This is basically how all animated adaptations work in Japan. They don't really have a concept of royalties.

>>153806605
Same for Prisma. Now, since the guy doing Prisma is technically working for TYPE-MOON, they do get a cut of it, but neither the author nor the company get any money for the shows.
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>>153805987
>the organizational itself don't exist
It's not like they have a meeting place to begin with. DAA is just a name to identify them, they aren't like the Suicide Squad, you know.
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>>153806579
Merlin in Fate doesn't give a fuck about Vivian. He slept around with every woman in front of him but only felt love toward Artoria, which is the guilt he feels and allows him to be caged in that tower. He realized he finally found what he was looking for and broke it without he realized.

He occasionally flirts with guys too. If they are as interesting or pretty as Solomon.
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>>153803812
He doesn't have a gun and he's not dressed anywhere resembling appropriately for the role.
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>>153806301
>would absolutely agree to gass all GOfags, right?
umm that's not how Shirou rolls
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>>153806605
A mistake
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>>153806679
And then he got cucked by a ginger Japanese teenager.
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>>153806716
Get out homo.
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>>153806663
The chuuni names don't exist at all especially with Primate Murder being the beast in Prototype or a squirrel cat thing in SN/GO. Hell even Zephia is not even a DA in Fateverse he's the leader of Atlas and devoted most of his time trying to save the world according to Nasu's blog
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>>153806652
Oh fuck off, you better believe I wouldn't be mad about an untranslated release of the Tsukihime remake, or Mahoyo 2, or some new Fate VN by Nasu.

>>153806659
kek, do you honestly believe that? Fate is big enough that they'd make tons of money no matter what they released, going gacha mobage is just maximum jewing.
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>>153806719
He was fine with that, as long she was happy. Merlin's love for Artoria is a mix of fatherly affection and romantic feelings. He's an incubus, so. He was at ease, despite his own suppressed jealousy, she found peace in Garden of Avalon.
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>>153806756
Don't forget Sion dies at birth and her twin sister is the Atlas magus, instead. She eventually dies by 2030 (Extra only, but Sion is Tsukihime timeline while the sister is Fate).
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>>153806757
You've been repeating the same ting over and over for the past half hour. You just look sad and pathetic that no one is playing along.
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>>153806871
try every fate thread
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>>153806880
EMIYA SHIROU
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What if EMIYA actually stand for an ideal? Not a person?
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>>153806871
What exactly am I repeating fampire? That FGO is garbage?
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>>153806880
Easily yes.
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>>153806757
They issue is that they DON'T really release anything. Here's the core issue with TYPE-MOON: It's all entirely centered around Nasu. Since its inception, TYPE-MOON has really only released a handful of titles. Its core flagship titles since the formation of the company are:
>Fate/stay night
>Fate/hollow ataraxia
>Melty Blood Act Cadenza
>Melty Blood Actress Again
>Fate/EXTRA
>Fate/EXTRA CCC
>Fate/Extella
>Witch on the Holy Night
>Kara no Kyoukai (reprint)
>Fate/Grand Order

Everything else are minor light novels and comics which only produce minimal profits. Incidentally, Witch on the Holy Night's sales were fairly disappointing, and most of their games are fairly niche. The reason Extella was a musou was because Takeuchi felt that it would probably sell more than a rock/paper/scissors RPG. Because they need the money.

The bulk of TYPE-MOON's profits are currently coming from Fate/Grand Order.
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>>153806880
It bothers me there's a giant blast as if it does a lot of damage, but really all it did was cut off an arm.
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>>153806880
>>153806897
HF climax fight is more memorable than Shirou vs Gilgamesh shounen tier battle. That's why Nasu referenced it in FGO in the finale he went all out according to him.
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Did he become Pucci?
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>>153806757
>Mahoyo
Thanks for bringing that up, autismo. Chapter 7 was great. Colab when? The only chance Mahoyo has of not fading into oblivion without being completed is if a colab with FGO boosts it's popularity and gets more people interested in it. I'd whale for Alice but everyone knows she'd get nothing more than a CE.
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>>153806970
Sure man, you got any source that it's not just the usual corporate greed, instead of speculating and putting Nasu on a pedestal for no good reason?
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>>153806944
We already have Robin Hood, Hassan, and Kotaro Fuuma legacy characters we don't need another one
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>>153807037
End your life GOcuck.
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>>153807037
Maybe when part II of Mahoyo is launched.
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>>153806880
Nah, Shirou vs. Gilgamesh is hands down the best FSN battle. Sadly ufotable couldn't deliver a good product but whatever.

Maybe Shirou vs. Saber Alter is a close second place.
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This shit getting localized yet?
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>>153807003
>HF climax

It just occurred to me that Nasu's done "main character fistfights heavily weakened and already doomed antagonist who's only opposing him out of spite, eventually to get saved in a situation involving a third party using some extraordinary magic related to resurrection" twice now.
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>>153807074
Never happening. And a FGO colab would maybe help it just a little but even then it's a lost cause.
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>>153807102
Never
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>>153807083
lol
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>>153807003
>That's why Nasu referenced it in FGO in the finale he went all out according to him.
Gil?
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>>153807037
Wasn't Touko in Lev's funeral (one of the Levs who manage to kill themselves before they are possessed by Flauros)? I remember Nasu writing a short story about it in 2014. Nobody suspected it was connected to FGO then.

Lev is easily one of the most tragic figures of the story. The guy who dedicated his life to protect humanity, history, even made Shiva lenses, possessed by a demon who started the incineration unable to do anything while it destroyed his beloved coworkers.
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>>153807072
>cuck
crossboarder pls go.
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>>153807109
GO doesn't count.
Don't even compare that trash to HF finale.

>>153807157
/vg/ crossboarder pls kill yourself.
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>>153807102
Haha no.

>>153807083
The problem is that the cool version of that fight is a dead end.
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>>153807151
Clock Tower 2015 he killed himself in all other timelines to stop Goetia.
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>>153806880
Take your shitty gif back to tumblr cuntie
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>>153807139
Nasu. FGO is the story he goes all out. So it began with all humanity wiped out in 3000 years of history instead of "look we must stop bad things from happening!" Bad thing already happened.

>>153807109
Yes, but worked better with Shirou and Kotomine because all Goetia and (you) had in common was that Solomon was your king/leader chose either as heir at some point.
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>>153807151
>Wasn't Touko in Lev's funeral (one of the Levs who manage to kill themselves before they are possessed by Flauros)?

We know A Touko exists in FSN's timeline so logically there's no reason for another not to exist in FGO's, but we don't even know what Timeline Mahoyo takes place in. It kinda feels like it might be in the universe where Tsukihime happens though so we're talking about different Toukos.
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>>153807048
It's not about putting Nasu on a pedestal. It's about the fact that almost every core flagship media that TYPE-MOON has ever produced was personally penned by Nasu. Stuff like Fate/Apocrypha and Fate/strange fake don't really make as much money due to being minor light novel publications with comparatively minimal exposure. It's a fact that light novels typically tend to have less sales than other forms of media in Japan, especially compared to comics and games. It doesn't particularly matter how good the novel is either; the bulk of a light novel's sales will ultimately come from the PR boost it receives from an animated adaptation (if it gets one at all). Neither Apocrypha nor Strange Fake have animated adaptations, which means no PR boost which means their sales won't be good enough to support an entire company.

The biggest issue is that TYPE-MOON simply does not have any major projects headed by someone other than Nasu. If they would just release a VN or a game with someone other than Nasu at the helm, they might stabilize more, but for some reason they're just not doing that. Nasu is personally involved in and writes the majority bulk of every game they release or have major involvement in. Any other writers are simply limited to light novels or side scenarios.
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>>153807196
Good thing God set up Solomon's summon in the timeline he failed to do his Deus Ex Machina.
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>>153807196
But if Solomon erased all traces of himself and his achievements, then that means Lev never killed himself since he was never possessed.
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>>153797323
>saber officially going to get BLACKED now
It's like all those cuck doujins became a reality.
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>>153807259
No, Lev failed his suicide in FGO and was possessed. Goetia stuff happens in all timelines, he only needs one timeline to succeed to get the ball rolling though because timelocks. He himself was sitting on his ass on Solomon's temple located outside time and the universe.
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>>153807262
In case your dumb ass hasn't realized yet, all he does is repeat permutations of "lol FGO suxs" ad nauseam because he's a sad fuck who wants attention. You're an idiot for giving it to him as though you were involved in an actual argument.
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>>153807151
Nasu has a tendency to give out hints on what's next, Altera being Attila got called out in Rome, Roman's true identity was hinted in Gilgamesh's interlude, hell even Fou being primate murder was mentioned by Mesphito by all people in KnK event.
>>153807259
Going with what's Nasu is currently doing its Mahoyo, KnK and Fate are all in one universe as of all.
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>>153807308
That's a reddit translation, anon. He simply erased the miracles from the agent of god (meaning that Goetia couldn't incinerate history). His achievements exists or there'll be a paradox that would retcon everything.
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>>153806880
In sheer specticle? Only if they do a specific bad-ending.
Honestly Shirou vs Archer was the peak for F/sn for me. HF did have some great scenes among it's god awful pacing.
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>>153807308
Lev's entire lineage might have been erased by that same token. He's gone either way.
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>>153807262
The said part is they actually did try to release an original work written by someone other than Nasu, but nothing ever really came of it. What was it again? Fire Girl?
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>>153807262
>Neither Apocrypha nor Strange Fake have animated adaptations,
Apocrypha is getting animated, idiot. Strange Fake is barely out the prologue to BE animated.
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>>153807404
and Zouken don't forget he was Barbatos who got raped by millions of people who played FGO
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>>153807336
Makes sense because it's probably retconning Arc (Kohta Ace) and have her around as world hopper only. Arc doesn't exist in KnK universe and KnK universe got burned down by Goetia so.
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>>153807385
>That's a reddit translation

No, that's exactly what it says. The rest of that line might very well be how things are shuffled, but don't make shit up about things you can't read unless you can provide a better translation.
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>>153807423
And until that adaptation it's out, it's not gonna be making TYPE-MOON any real dosh. Even then, it's probably not gonna be enough to be a major source of support for the company. In the end, it's just one title.
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>>153807262
You're still just speculating about spin-off sales. And of course they need Nasu to work on something big, but the only reason they chose a gacha mobage instead of a proper VN or game is exactly what I'm getting at, fucking greed with no concern for making something that's consistently good.

>>153807329
>s-stop trying to make arguments!
You are literally the reason no one likes /fgog/fags. Please do yourself a favor and return there.
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>>153807444
Well, maybe the lineages remain but simply aren't related to the pillars. It's never explicitly said that they are necessarily descended form him in blood, just that they are his followers.

So there's still a Zouken and Lev, they just aren't the bearers of the pillars anymore.
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>>153807511
Nasu's last major project failed to make very significant sales. Mahoyo wasn't exactly drowning in success.

Originally, Nasu wanted to make RPGs, but Takeuchi told him that they need to make some actual money. That's why Fate/Grand Order is a mobage and Fate/Extella is a musou.
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>>153807463
No, you should read up what it says instead of spouting shit. Anyway, the ''''traces'''' remained anyway. His RM is there, his throne is there, his rings are there. A pillar demon appears in an interlude post the temple.

Chaldea is there, and without him Chaldea isn't functional. Kind of important why it could never be established in other worldline as a successful project.

Magecraft is there.
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Former EMIYA supporter here. This is fucking hilarious watching Emiya crash and burn, but in all seriousness, we can't this guy get a hold of the kanshou and bakuya bullets!
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>>153807570
And he could've just made that instead, even if Mahoyo wasn't a phenomenal success anything Fate would've been good.

As usual Takeuchi continues shitting up TM with his waifufagging, but it certainly wasn't his fault alone.
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>>153807614
I love this meme phrase.
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>>153807629
If Nasu were a freelance writer, he could just do what you're suggesting he do. But he actually has people working under him that he needs to pay. You can't support a company with a niche Vita RPG and a handful of novelettes.
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>>153807629
Nasu is nothing without Takeuchi.
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>>153807679
Sure. Which is why TM's quality is going down the drain every day FGO continues to exist.
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>>153807570
and Grand Order could've gotten a better developer if Takeuchi didn't insisted that Sony should pay his friend's company that just started instead of paying for an establish one.
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>>153807679

How big is Type: Moon? A dozen people? A few hundred?
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>>153807463
>>153807584

In the very same profile, it's stated that Solomon fucks up his incantations because of his anxiety. Some anon detected the spell pronunciation was off. So maybe you're both right, and the traces remained because his anxiety struck again. You see the Solomon-NP thing on the sky of the trailer, yikes.
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>>153807737
Type Moon isn't the actual company if that's what you're wondering
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>>153807730
Haha. Takeuchi is a parasite.
It's partially his fault that Last Episode garbage exists too.
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>>153807737
They steal Nitro+ writers time to time, Takeuchi is the head of Type-Moon, Nasu, Koyama, and others
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>>153807737
Near as I can tell, they're a basic small company. I'd assume they have around maybe 20-25 people in total.
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>>153807731
More like they already sold their soul to Aniplex. People can say a lot of stuff but TM is small shit after all that only lives based on royalties while they must make sure to keep making content to please their boss, which is Aniplex right now.

The only shit not Aniplex funded is Prisma Illya, everything else is Aniplex.
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>>153807820
>but believe me guys, they couldn't survive without a full on gacha mobage, the poor fools!!
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>>153807778
Do you know what parasite means?
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>>153807836
As stated multiple times, royalties do not exist in Japan. TYPE-MOON does not receive a yen of any of the animes' profits.
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>>153807539
All magi come from Solomon, but the pillars chose the traditional noble houses. They are stuck up.

>inb4 Shirou is actually Solomon who was reborn in Fuyuki
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>>153807849
One who contributes nothing while draining resources.
Basically what Takeuchi does, except he uses his shitty art as an excuse to be there, and actively shits up the stories with his Saber waifufagging.
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>>153807867
>both are red heads who turn dark skin white hair
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>>153807867
If all magi come from Solomon, then what about the ones who predate him? Solomon was born in 1010 BC. There was lots of shit before him.
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>>153807629
>As usual Takeuchi continues shitting up TM with his waifufagging, but it certainly wasn't his fault alone.
Takeuchi is barely doing stuff for FGO. The new Servants he designed were Solomon, Goetia and Mashu. Everyone else was a Saberface flavor or an old returner.

http://fate-go.cirnopedia.org/illustrator.php#Takeuchi Takashi
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>>153807886
>Basically what Takeuchi does, except he uses his shitty art as an excuse to be there, and actively shits up the stories with his Saber waifufagging.
He was essential to the eventual creation of the KohaHisui routes in Turkeyhandle. Which more than makes up for his waifufagging and any other sins.
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>>153807734
I don't like DW any more than the next guy but they have improved a lot. I don't know, it just makes me happy to know that these guys got on their feet as an actual company because of Fate.
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>>153807905
Aliens maybe Altera fucked up the Age of Gods badly
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>>153807584
>No, you should read up what it says instead of spouting shit.

Okay, here:

これを宝具として使用した時、ソロモン王痕跡はこの世界から消滅する。 英雄の座からですらも。

I'm not sure why you wasted your time typing the rest of that shit, I already told you I agreed that things are most of the world-deifning details are likely getting paradoxed into staying the same. I was referring to your dumb ass spouting buzzwords about the translation being wrong when "erased all traces of himself" is the exact wording the original text uses. It's an extremely unambiguous sentence with completely plain grammar, you can't really mistranslate it unless you don't even know what the words even mean.

The game is in Japanese. If you want to run your mouth about translation quality of things you obviously can't read yourself, I suggest you not do it somewhere you know at least somebody else is likely to actually be literate on it.
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So where do the TYPEs stand now? Are the still the most powerful beings in the universe or are they shit?
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>>153807953
>KohaHisui route
It's just the Kohaku route, let's be real. Both are about Kohaku.
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>>153808013
Shit maybe, the strongest thing in all of Type-moon at the moment is a fully powered Excalibur wielded by Grand Saber
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>>153807943
I'm not talking about FGO specifically, he just contributes nothing good in general.
Well, other than according to >>153807570 , he encouraged Nasu to go the mobageshit and musoushit route.

>>153807953
He just wanted cute maid sisters, it was a happy outcome that Nasu came up with amazing storylines for them.
The fact that he was the artist even back when they made good stuff doesn't excuse his awful waifufagging for 13 years.
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>>153808033
>The maids exist because Takeuchi wanted maids
>But Nasu was the one who won in the end
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>>153807886
Bait? If not, go read some of their interviews.
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>>153808050
This is sad.
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>>153808033
>It's just the Kohaku route, let's be real. Both are about Kohaku.
You're right, but I love Kohaku romantically and as a character so I can't complain.
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>>153807905
>then what about the ones who predate him?

There weren't any, or rather there where, but weren't the same thing.

Magic used to be something bestowed on people by spirits and Gods, like how Medea got her powers from Hecate, not something normal people could learn. It's Solomon that created the systems that evolved into modern-day magic which regular folk could use.
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>>153807905
There weren't magi before him. Magecraft and magic back then wasn't the same before him, it was gift and miracles granted by spirits and gods. Merlin and Mats explain it. The guy who made men separate from gods wasn't Gil (Gil simply didn't obey gods to oppress humans on their name), it was Solomon giving them tools and knowledge to not rely on then anymore. Humans before Solomon lacked 'individuality'. Roman even comments about it, marveled by romanticism (where he chose to name himself after). Mind you, this was Yahweh's doing and Yahweh previously fucked up the Egyptian pantheon that had been unscathed it seemed in power even after the Sefar for some reason (at least Ozymandias says the decay for them started with this shit).

Yahweh seems very invested for humans to man up.
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>>153808099
>Bait?

You mean you've been replying to this twat and haven't realized it yet?
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>>153808150
>anyone who dislikes what I like is baiting
fgog
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>>153808074
>He just wanted cute maid sisters, it was a happy outcome that Nasu came up with amazing storylines for them.
I don't think I have the conversation, but I remember there was an interview about this and Nasu initially wrote a couple conversations and then Takeuchi said "No this is all wrong" and it seemed to imply they collaborated on how they'd act what they'd be like.
Also
>cute maid sisters
Cute TWIN maid sisters. Twin is very important.
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>>153808150
He's gone form screeching about FGO to screeching about Takeuchi. It's not like I want to keep track of him.
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>>153808201

I didn't recognize them at first. They look so different out of uniform and with their hair down.
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>>153807905
Before Solomon it was just those blessed by spirits and gods that granted power. Humans have almost zero individuality. Age of Men starts to shape up with Solomon because Solomon gave men the tools for them to master the world: knowledge, science, magecraft, miracles. He's kind of essential lore figure in general.
It does seem the 'jews' were the Chosen people but not because of religion, for what I understand, but because of the bloodline that would spread around and change the world. This is why the Holy Church and Clock Tower rivalry is frankly retarded.
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>>153807886
waifus are the only reason tm is still alive
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>>153808212
To be fair, Takeuchi is exactly the kind of braindead retard who'd enjoy the shit out of FGO.
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>>153807999
Yes, and you failed to put it in context with what they meant with King Solomon. I'm in a phone right now, but I remember it says as an agent of God/providence specifically.

Nobody is disputing the rest, but the traces are definitely remaining so it already contradicts what it says, but if the other anon suspicion is right. It's probably on purpose.
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>>153808259
Sure, they're part of the reason FSN and Turkeyhandle were successful.
They were only good because the waifus and appealing to waifufags almost never overshadowed the story Nasu had in mind. This is the core of FGO's problem, thanks to being a gacha mobage.
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>>153808238
>I didn't recognize them at first. They look so different out of uniform and with their hair down.
They do look different, but very cute. Can this be a cute meido thread now?
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>>153806970
>what is tsukihime
>what is kagetsu toya

That makes 12 "core flagship titles", as you put it. The company has been around since 2000, so 17 years ago. Thats almost one title per year, which is damn impressive. This doesmt take into account more minor things like Canaan or Carnival Phantasm.
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>>153806024
>implying
They gave Amakusa the eyebrows in the Apocrypha illustrations.
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>>153808074
All Nasu had to do in mind for FGO was Roman's story because he was inspired by Scrap by Maaya Sakamoto. I suppose he could have just written a novel in his POV instead, but would it sell as much? Takeuchi also told him to genderswap FSN.
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>>153808394
Sure, and that story could've been pretty good in basically any other medium, even if it wasn't an epic jewish success.
Fuck FGO.
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>>153808357
Tsukihime and Kagetsu Tohya were made before their founding as a company.
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>>153808394
Novels don't sell as much and Nasu also said the VN industry is dying
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>>153808339
Nah, FGO is more like HA in that aspect. Thy both have obvious main story and non main story parts, and it's easy to keep them separate as long as you aren't autistic.
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>>153808502
Except GO's main story is incredibly larger scaled than HA and fucks with the overall universe a lot more.
Also HA's SoL scenes are the main draw to a fundisc, and they contribute to the resolution of the new characters in the small "main story".
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>>153808440
I don't mind FGO (but I never spent a single yen in it), so it doesn't bother me. But there are some really missed changes of "would have been cool if..." I would be very interested to read about Solomon's first years of humanization by Nasu because his "empty guy" troupe has my favorite ones (Shirou and Kotomine). I admit all I saw about was "it's a shame they couldn't meet Roman."
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-gNyKIT4_E

why was the animation for this scene so shit bros?
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>>153806970
>The bulk of TYPE-MOON's profits are currently coming from Fate/Grand Order
Type-moon find a way!?
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>>153808320
>Yes, and you failed to put it in context with what they meant with King Solomon. I'm in a phone right now, but I remember it says as an agent of God/providence specifically.

Dude, you can't read it, stop pretending. If you have a phone, I assume you have FGO in it, boot it up and read the text on Solomon's profile, which is what I just did to get the exact line I posted. You won't, because you can't read it. It's the last block of text, in case you want to run it through google to try and pretend that you do.

We're not discussing any interpretation of the story. You made a dumb buzzwordy post saying a perfectly accurate translation was wrong, and have been backtracking for half an hour talking about context so as to not admit you were talking out your ass on an anonymous imageboard.

I have no idea why you're bringing up anything related to "an agent of God." Yes, that's what Solomon was while alive, but that has nothing to do with any of this and the words do not appear anywhere in that section because... like I said, I don't even know why you brought that up. This was about the translation. The text is very straightforward and literally says "When this is used as a Noble Phantasm, all traces of King Solomon are erased from this world. [Dramatic pause] Even from the Throne of Heroes." There is no context that could make these words say anything else.

You continue talking about theories that I already said I think sound reasonable in my very first post and those following, when the thing I actually told you was that the translation your were calling shit on was completely correct. Stop trying to argue about a language you can't read with someone who obviously can, you moron.
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>>153808590
>Except GO's main story is incredibly larger scaled than HA and fucks with the overall universe a lot more.
This didn't start with FGO, anon. Nasu has been doing this restructuring of the universe after CCC. FGO is one of the flapships so makes it more obvious.
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>>153808590
And? The fun and serious bits are still separate and don't get in the way of each other.
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>>153808652
What about the BDs?
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>>153797323
Most likely Counter Guardian created by EMIYAAss+EMIYAArcher
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>>153808678
The point is that it's fine for HA to be more fanservicey because the main story isn't that important anyway, it's not the focus at all.

>>153808681
There needs to be a good balance, switching willy-nilly from one to the other makes it inconsistent and it lacks an "identity".
Also, the no personality self-insert protag that definitely affects the main story negatively is a product of the silly "fun" mobage waifu simulator bits.
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>>153808883
>The point is that it's fine for HA to be more fanservicey because the main story isn't that important anyway, it's not the focus at all.
Kill yourself.
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>>153797323

Is that a Gudako head-necklace?
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>>153808961
Yes
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>>153808681
>And?

You're talking to the precise sort of autist your previous post alluded to, who is now pretending he can actually read the text and evaluate when the tone shifts occur even though he previously admitted he can't read Japanese.
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>>153808956
Nice argument FGOcuck.
I think you need to take your own advice.
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>>153807734
No, actually DW despite its previous fucks up, it's fairly good in handling FGO. Look, the game system, navigation and spritework/animation is top notch. They also make the low star units useful.
Most shit DW gets bashed on isn't actually their decision: like the gacha rates (guidelines from Sony) or lack of content (they couldn't do shit because Nasu's team is the one who provides the content).
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>>153808984
No one needs to "read" when the tone shifts occur. It's either serious story chapter, silly story chapter, or shitty event.
That's how fucking abrupt the "tone shifts" of bipolar FGOshit are.
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>>153809003
I didn't know HA was FGO now. Seek help.
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>>153808883
Events aren't the focus, though, they are fillers for fans to pad in the main story. Sometimes it has spoilers. Merlin revealed in Valentines that his nature and origin is similar to Fou's.
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>>153808973
Where can I get one?

I must have that Gudako.
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>>153809049
So you're saying they're so cleanly separated that you can tell even without reading it.
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>>153809077

Is there a girl that Gudako hasn't molested yet?
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Last OVA when?
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>The making of TYPE-MOON's first game, Tsukihime, was full of bitterness. The drawing and coloring were all done by Takeuchi. It was said that during his lunch/afternoon break at his day job, Takeuchi would bike home and work on the art, go back to work, and repeat the process until three in the morning.
>Nasu wasn't much better off. Eventually, he quit his job, and Takeuchi told him: "I'll take care of the living expenses, you work on Tsukihime."

>tfw you'll never have a bro as good as Takeuchi
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>>153809025
They got away with Japanese whales blaming them for stealing money by blaming Google
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>>153809049
There are tone shifts in every Nasu work.
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>>153809099

Do Rin and Luvia finally fuck?
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>>153809049
I thought you wanted them to be separate because all the waifufaggotry was getting in the middle of the story, according to you.
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>>153799595

>tfw spent all my quartz on quetz rate up
>was saving for my husbando Holmes

shit I'm going to have to drop a fuckload if Holmes gets released during this new chapter
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>>153809067
If you actually think the story in HA was at all more important than the silly stuff (in a fucking fun-disc), you're a retard and would probably enjoy FGO even if you don't play it right now.

>>153809068
There's a ton of filler shit in FGO, that's the point. They should pick one or the other.
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>>153809099
I wanna make a soccer team with Miyu.
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>>153809093
Exactly. And that's really fucking bad.

>>153809124
It's never abrupt at all in his good stuff.
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>>153809099
It's up on himado
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>>153797323
I see that Archer is nigger. What happened?
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>>153797323
>>153797323

the blacked saber meme is almost a reality
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>>153809115
Google play actually fucked up in several games. I say this because it also fucked two other mobages I know by Square Enix.

So I'll give them a leeway.
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>>153809049
>That's how fucking abrupt the "tone shifts" of bipolar

You just said that they're separated into chapters and events and that it's so obvious that you don't even need to read the actual text to know.

Maybe stop getting your panties in a bunch over nothing, because you're so mad now that you managed to argue against yourself in a three-sentence post.
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>>153809145
So you haven't read GO or HA. Have you at least rad FSN?
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>>153809167
What? Sometimes the mood whiplash hits on the same chapter/day in FSN.
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>>153809136
It does get in the middle of the story thanks to the self-insert protagonist.
Otherwise, it's still bad that they can't do a good transition between them because like I said, the weird mix just shits up FGO as a whole.
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>>153809167
>It's never abrupt

But you just agreed that it's all very cleanly separated.
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>>153808339
>>153809145
Please try to be more consistent with your shitposts.
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>>153797323
EMIYA ALTER DINDU NUFFIN
HE A GOOD BOY
THE OPPRESIVE WHITE PE- I MEAN COUNTER FORCE FORCED HIM TO DO SO
HE WAS GETTING HIS LIKE BACK ON TRACK
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I can't tell if this is next level shitposting, next level autism, or both.
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>>153809290
Shut up and answer me. Why everyone is black, what's going on?
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>>153809321
No, you shut up and get ready for the BBC.
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>>153809204
"Tone shift" may not be the correct term.
It's a shitty mix of fanservice pandering and trying to tell a serious story that bogs down the thing as a whole.

>>153809226
One (I) example.

>>153809244
Read my reply above.

>>153809277
FSN and Turkeyhandle =/ FHA

>>153809321
Your standart FGO new design announcement.
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>>153809321
Abusing magic turns you black
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>>153809321
Glorious NIHON realised it's time to get culturally enriched that's why they're adding black people on Shinjuku.
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>>153809341

But I prefer CNN.
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>>153805155
thats the joke. It shouldnt matter if theres an extra (you)
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>fgo is a waifugame
>yet male characters get better stuff in the valentine's event
>yet cuservice is prevalent in the ova and roman is cuter than the girls
>yet the male characters get backstory related stories in Kohta Ace and a CD drama Nasu is working on
>yet the central figure of part 1 was a guy

Sounds like girls are just used as cheap gacha/fig baits.
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>>153809167
>It's never abrupt at all in his good stuff.

HA and KT both flip from completely bonkers shit to serious plot with no more excuse or transition other than where you go in the day. The only transition between somber contemplation on Satsuki's death or getting mauled by a drawer panther for peeking on Arcueid's panties is where you choose to go that morning. The original Melty Blood is pure serious plot, plus that one that suddenly and without any warning has you fight a kaiju-sized Akiha because fuck you that's why.

FGO works exactly the same as literally everything else: it flips between the silly and the serious by keeping them fairly separate and not having the sections cross-reference each other. That's why there's no allusion to the last few floors of the building during KnK, and Zero even has that gag where Mashu tells you not to bring up MXA since this was the serious part of the story.
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>>153809349
>One (I) example.
Sorry, that was meant for
>>153809232
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>>153809382
Nasu is a girl so no shit.
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>>153809364
>prefer minorities
>likes CNN
so this is the kind of people EMIYA Alter panders to?
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>>153809321
>>153809321
>>153809321

japan jjust acknowledging the superiority of black dick
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>>153809226
I have more doubts that you've read HA if you actually think Bazett and Avenger's story was the main draw to it.
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>>153809431
By turning people into black?
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WE
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>>153809405
Saber murders you and sends you into the Taiga Dojo over food, but then Shirou wakes up wondering what the flipping fuck that was about.
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>>153809448
They've been drawing japanese people white for decades, might as well turn them black too.
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>>153809398
>comparing fun-discs and a fighting game to the glorious "Nasus' magnum opus" FGO
Yeah, OK.
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So, when are we getting more aliens like in Extella?
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>>153809468
See >>153809465
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>>153809465
Saber "murdering" you wasn't a serious scene in context at all, she got mad because of fucking lunch.
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>>153809437
If you are >>153809145 you said the story was not important at all, not that it wasn't the main draw. What the main draw is is obviously opinion and depends on the person. Read the VNs you raging autist.
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>>153809467
It's no wonder that Japan is a genius.
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>>153809490
>Saber "murdering" you wasn't a serious scene in context at all

Of course it wasn't serious. You asked for one drastic swerve into zany comedy. That's one right there.
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>>153809468
>fun-discs
It's "fan-disk", you retard. The first time you said it I assumed it was just a typo but you clearly have brain problems or are just a chronic shitposter.
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I have a confession to make.
Shirou is my favorite Fate.
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>>153809490
Well, obviously it wasn't serious. That's the example you were asking for.

Given that you've now repeatedly admitted you can't even read FGO, you can't even give any examples of any transition you claim is different from this.
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>>153809493
Read my post again.
>more important than the silly stuff
Not completely unimportant. Sure there are people who'll prefer the short main story, but by definiton, if you compare the importance of a serious story in a fun-disc like FHA to something like FGO, it should be obvious which one should have a better balance.

>>153809522
But it's not a "drastic swerve". It's probably lead up to with a light hearted tone in a relaxed day with lots of SoL scenes.

>>153809541
Newfag.
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>>153809101
>Much later, Takeuchi would regret NEET-enabling Nasu, after Nasu stopped writing and spent all his time playing Idolm@ster with Kentaro Miura.
>Today, Takeuchi has little to do but fap to his own Saber artwork while crying as the Type-Moon machine he helped build continues to support Nasu with a soulless mobage built upon Takeuchi's shattered hopes and dreams.
>The end.
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>>153809551
same here
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>>153809560
Nope. I was asking for an example from FSN or Tsuki where they go straight from a serious scene to silly fanservice, to the point where it hurts the consistency and integrity of the overall work.
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>>153809591
>>153809591
>It's probably lead up
>probably
Seriously, read the VN and learn some basic terminology and come back to morrow, newfag.
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>>153809603
Nasu just plays whatever the meme game is on the PS4 now. He shilled P5 when it was out and has Togashi disease
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>>153809643
That's a a typo, meant to say properly.
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>>153809551
Nothing wrong with that.
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>>153809591
>But it's not a "drastic swerve"

Yes it is. The story suddenly breaks the fourth wall.

>It's probably lead up to with a light hearted tone in a relaxed day with lots of SoL scenes.

And when has FGO swerved more dramatically than that? You even claimed that they keep the silly and serious stuff contained to completely separate non-mutually-referencing chapters. You can't get farther from a "drastic swerve" than that.

Oh, wait, I forgot, you already admitted that you can't even read FGO, so how would you even know? You're commenting on a story you haven't read.
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>>153800092
>>153809644
What's the genuine joke in this?

What happened to stereotypes that actually made sense?
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>>153809641
>I was asking for an example from FSN or Tsuki where they go straight from a serious scene to silly fanservice

And when does FGO do that?
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>>153809541
Actually this is a fan disk you retard.
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So wait, Saber remembers Shirou in F/GO? Is it UBW Saber?
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>>153809714
The haremshit with the goddesses trainwreck are the only ones I can think of.
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What is this just anew chapter for the F/GO game or an event for the characters.
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>>153809701
There's no joke. It's spam at this point and usually gets deleted but I guess mods are on strike today.
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>>153809701
>What's the genuine joke in this?
Have you ever seen "woke" black nationalists who believe things like Charlemagne was black, Mozart was black, Thor was black or Beethoven was black? It is an allusion to that.
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>>153809785
The routes don't matter.
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>>153809701
There is no joke, it depends entirely on the creativty of the poster to imbue it with entertainment value by balancing the inherent niggerness of the meme with the relevant information of the specific case/brand/story that he's applying it to in order to make it funny by exposing the ridiculousness of the premise of the joke itself juxtaposed against the mental imagery inspired by the poster's writing.
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>>153809687
Half of the Fate route is zany shit like that, it's lead up to the VN getting serious, which keeps progressing throughout the routes. Something FGO doesn't know how to do.

>>153809714
They don't do it scene to scene, but the point is that the whole thing doesn't have a consistent tone. It appeals to waifufags with events when they don't feel like writing serious parts, it goes back to the serious story when Nasu's in the mood.

>>153809785
Everyone remembers everrthing because lol fanservice explained with convulted shit. Even the Extra girls.
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>>153809827
What does Archer remember?
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>>153809785
It's HA Saber.
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>>153809785
Chaldea system is different from Fuyuki. Moon Cell lets people remember their time from different wars. Fuyuki system is pretty much the black sheep
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>>153809870

There is only one reaction to this.
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>>153809853
Everything just like all the other servants would, its literally one summoning system that erases the memory because remember the war would be cheating.
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>>153809787
>The haremshit with the goddesses trainwreck are the only ones I can think of.

There are huge fucking leadups to that, certainly far, FAR longer than FSN breaking the fourth wall out of nowhere during a normal afternoon scene, and thes actual content isn't zanny or disjointed at all. Ereshkigal blushing is nothing extraordinary or atmosphere-breaking. It's not like she does it in the middle of any of the Lahmu slaughter scenes or anything of the sort.

Of course, you wouldn't know that since you're bitching about a story you literally can't read. You can't possibly get more retarded than making claims about the precise pace of transitions in a story you've repeatedly admitted are incapable of actually reading.
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>>153809877
Fuyuki system has limitations as a result of the fact that it was made by like five guys. It can't summon the Heroic Spirit from the Throne itself, it can only summon a copy. That copy does not transfer any of its memories to the main body and a Grail created by like five guys would not have the authority to summon the actual Heroic Spirit from the Grail.

Basically, Fuyuki Grail isn't good enough to summon anything better than a copy.
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>>153809910
>erases the memory because remember the war would be cheating
Read the fucking VN, GOshitter.
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>>153806095
Attila the Hun as a cute girl and Rin the Goddess of prostitutes were worse than Unlimited Blade Watermelons
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Darker skin, sure, I can buy the corruption thing, but why the hairstyle then? And the outfit too, for that matter?

He just looks like Raven now.
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>>153809940
Don't forget it was mention in Apocrypha the leylines in Fuyuki are so shit
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He's not even Shirou, retards.
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>>153809944

But Rin is the perfect fit for a Goddess of Prostitutes. Remember all the old men, and the pretty girls?
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>>153809827
>Half of the Fate route is zany shit like that,

Like what?

>but the point is that the whole thing doesn't have a consistent tone. It appeals to waifufags with events when they don't feel like writing serious parts, it goes back to the serious story when Nasu's in the mood.

You just said a whole half of Fate is zany shit, now you're saying another story doesn't have a consistent tone. Make up your mind.

By the way, do you realize how many times you blurted out you can't read Japanese, and yet you're now try to make commentary on the flow of scenes you can't even read?
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>>153809985
Heroic spirits and gods posessing people in the first place is stupid as fuck, done solely for fanservice and lazy character design.
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>>153807317
Rin's doujins have been memed into reality too.
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>>153809785
She has a lion stuffed toy, it's likely the Saber Archer knew. his route was like Fate anyway.
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>>153809940
Didn't the true body acquire the memories anyways? The problem was that there was too much info for the true body to bother with "meaningless" memories from ie the Fuyuki War.
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>>153809827
>Half of the Fate route is zany shit like that
>but the point is that the whole thing doesn't have a consistent tone
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>>153809877
>Fuyuki system is pretty much the black sheep
It's the shittest one so far. It's only good to use the prana pool from but Marisbilly for example summoned Solomon using Chaldea FATE system.
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>>153810027
What's wrong with fanservice?
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>>153809917
The Quetz shit is still bad, no matter how you slice it. She goes from serious threat to someone who forgot her own characterization (to point that Nasu cheekily points it out through Kingu) in two seconds flat. It's almost like he made her to mock waifufags.
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>>153809975
That sounds like just an excuse to allow for the summoning of more than seven Servants. Besides, it's not an issue of ley lines. The Grail itself is just a container created by a handful of old people. To begin with, it's not even a "pure" Grail, but rather a means to an end that they used in order to re-open the path to the Third.

>>153810066
No. See, it's different. A Servant summoned by the world can retain its memories. Any information recorded by that Servant is sent back to the true Heroic Spirit in the Throne.

A Servant summoned by a human can't do those things because a human would lack that sort of authority. If the world has administrator privileges that allows it to rewrite read-only files, then humans are public users who can only read and copy the file, but can't alter it.
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>>153810027
Were told in the VN that possession is the normal way to utilize heroic spirits.
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>>153810017
First half of Fate route is pretty vanilla shounen for the most part, silly comedy like that isn't really out of place. The DEEN anime actually captured that tone pretty well.

As for the rest, read my post, particularly the reply to the post under after yours. It starts relatively light, and progressively gets darker, which even carries over throughout the routes. That's what GO doesn't do, thanks to the garbage medium it uses.
Like I've also said, it's not about the flow of specific scenes, it's the consistency of it on a larger scale.
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>>153810043

So can we meme a Rin x Luvia Doujin into existence?
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>>153810137
Actually it was mentioned in Apocrypha Romania leylines can support 14 servants while Fuyuki can support only 6 + Hassan
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>>153810048
Archer's Saber didn't love him back.
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>>153810131
Dude, just stop. You know that because you saw someone posting about that in /fgog/, yet you're pretending you know about it because you read a story written in a language you admitted not being able to read. That's why you're incapable of even providing the context for that line or what they were even talking about.

This conversation reached peak stupid when you began commenting on the scene flow of a text you admitted not being capable of reading. Bye.
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>>153810093
It's not inherently bad, but in this case it basically means those characters are never getting proper designs because they decided to make bank off of older characters.

>>153810153
Even if that's technically true, you just know it's a lazy excuse to half-ass new characters in FGO's case.
Then again it might be better than getting more of the garbage designs that GO constantly shits out.
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>>153809701
It's funny because it's true. Even nigger Obama did it in his speech.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nHn9JcWERYc
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>>153810188
Like I said, an excuse to have more than seven Servants. It wouldn't affect how the Grail itself fundamentally functions. The Fuyuki Grail is just a makeshift attempt to create a door to the Root, specifically the door to the Third Magic.
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>>153810068
>>153810160
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>>153810161
No Japan prefers Saber x Rin
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>>153810207
>It's not inherently bad, but in this case it basically means those characters are never getting proper designs because they decided to make bank off of older characters.
Sure they can. Being summoned through possession one time doesn't prevent you from being summoned normally in other works. And I doubt Ishtar and the other goddess can be summoned normally anyway.
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>>153810200
He's not even the guy you were talking to, GOcuck.
Hope you end your miserable existence before you return here.
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>>153810200
I'm not the same person you're arguing with. I like and play FGO and I understand Japanese. But I'm not blind it has flaws, Quetzcoalt's entire character was one of them.
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>>153810161
Nips don't care about Luvia
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>>153810264
They're not.
Just like Musashi Miyamoto isn't getting a design.
Just like Okita and Nobunaga aren't getting designs (even though the female versions were joke designs in the first place).
Fuck FGO.
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>>153810160
>First half of Fate route is pretty vanilla shounen for the most part, silly comedy like that isn't really out of place.

So not only you haven't read FGO, you haven't read Fate either.

>It starts relatively light, and progressively gets darker, which even carries over throughout the routes.

Shirou gets nearly murdered several times right at the start, there is a small breather, then Blood Fort happens, then Shinji gets killed, then another very short breather, then Vs Herakles happens and Archer dies, then Shirou and Saber go on a date, and then the whole final stretch. It varies in tone, like a good story does, with high and low points of tension distributed throughout.

>That's what GO doesn't do

Yes it does, it has the same gradual high and low tension points interspersed throughout. Even the super dramatic Camelot has breather episodes, just like how Babylonia has very dark moments.

Also, how the fuck would you know, you can't even read it.
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>>153810252

But Rin deserves a real woman with real curves.
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>>153810321
There's an old guy who beats female Musashi in her quest, he's obviously the FGO Musashi.
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>>153810321
If Nasu ever wants to use them in some other story they would get proper designs. Will he? Unlike because there are loads of unused historical figures out there and reusing any non fan favorites is not a good idea.
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>>153797323
>gun
For fucking fuck's sake, now guns are valid in the Nasuverse for Servants?

I thought they weren't suitable for Servants due to some piss-ass rule about how guns are too modern to have belief or someshit assigned enough to them that they become conceptual/magical enough to hurt magical beings.

>buh it's modified archer swo--
No, that doesn't fucking faggot fly.

Why can't Nasu at least keep some goddamn rules of his own ridiculous universe straight and unviolated?
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>>153810347
The silly shit is nearly all before the fight with Rider. Which is on day 8, so midway through the route.

In the middle of those high story points in GO you also get some fanservice events, a "beach episode", and a Prisma Illya crossover.
Sure they're not directly connected, but that's how it went as people played it.
It's fucking shit and you should feel bad for playing it.
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>>153810438
Drake has existed for years, newfag.
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>>153810426
Exactly. Most of them had 1 chance, and they flubbed it.
Fuck FGO.
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>>153810160
>First half of Fate route is pretty vanilla shounen for the most part

Pic related.

Also that scene takes place in day 12 out of 15. You're more than two thirds in, nevermind "first half."
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>>153810384
There's a Saber for that.
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>>153810321
If someone wanted to use different versions of them in another work they absolutely could. Just look at SF's Jack.
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>>153810489
So Jaguar man and whoever Waver is.
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>>153810518
SF Jack was made before the shitty loli Jack.

>>153810542
I'm talking about all the genderbends with convuluted excuses too.
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>>153810503

Said Saber is autistic as fuck though. She can't give Rin what she needs.
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>>153810469
>The silly shit is nearly all before the fight with Rider

See >>153810492

It's bad enough you're bitching about a story you haven't read, but now you don't seem to even know anything about the one in English.

>Sure they're not directly connected, but

No, no "but." They're not directly connected. If you're too much of an autist to realize which clearly sectioned off parts of the story are actually the main story and which aren't, you're retarded and it's your own fault. It's not like those sections are obligatory.

You're bitching about optional content released in between the actual story chapters because the events that aren't part of the story don't act like part of the story. You're clearly the one with issues here.
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>>153810492
Still acceptable really, UBW has a date midway through.
The difference is, FSN doesn't feature a side story where the gang heads to the beach in the gap between UBW and HF.
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>>153810572
>SF Jack was made before the shitty loli Jack.
Then look at shitty loli Jack. The order doesn't matter.
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>>153810572
Wait, how does gender bending ruin a character? I could understand your bitching about reusing designs like Waver and Rin.
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>>153810579
I'm confused about titty sabers, is there a normal and berserk or whatever version of this one too?
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>>153810624
>UBW has a date midway through.

And Fate has one way towards the end. "Still acceptable" what? You're just moving the goalposts nonsensically.

So your only problem, aside from the fact that you argue about stories you can't read, or can read yet don't remember at all, is that there are side stories unconnected to the plot released months apart and you're too much of a fucking sperg to realize they're actually unconnected?
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Has pic-related been identified yet? I know that she's at least been speculated to be Scheherazade.
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>>153810609
The main story isn't "obligatory" either faggot, they're all part of what makes FGO what it is.
You're literally saying "it's tone consistent, if you ignore the side chapters that completely clash with the story".
FGO is half fan pandering mess, half trying to be "Nasu's magnum opus". If you don't understand the issue with this on a basic level, there's nothing more I can do to explain this to you.
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The loli Jack wasn't even created by Nasu. It was created by a friend of his and he just let it in. You'll find that a lot of F/GO's Servants are like that.
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>>153810682

I think there's only two: Lancer Arturia and the Lion King.
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>>153810572
>SF Jack was made before the shitty loli Jack.

How does that change the fact that they made anew version at will?
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>>153810637
But it does. I can almost guarantee that if loli Jack had come first, a different version wouldn't have been made.

>>153810669
If you don't think that excessive unecessary genderbending is an issue with modern Type-Moon, you're their current target audience I guess.
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>>153810758
>>153810776
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>>153810682
Berserker is related to MHX, and everything related to MHX is an extra layer of fucking around even beyond the regular jokey events. Pretty much every time she pops up, someone warns you not to take any of this seriously.
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>>153810754
And Storm King.
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>>153810776
>If you don't think that excessive unecessary genderbending is an issue with modern Type-Moon, you're their current target audience I guess.
Explain? I'm not as superficial as you when it come to characters. The appearance isn't a make it or break it for me.
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>>153810828

Who is Storm King?
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>>153810776
>But it does. I can almost guarantee that if loli Jack had come first, a different version wouldn't have been made.

So your reply to an obvious example of a Servant getting a completely different version in contradiction with your claim is "yes, but I say this wouldn't happen in reverse based on fuck-all."

Is that, like, a thing you can do? People prove you wrong and you just sya it doesn't count because you just say so?

What's the excuse for the Vlads?
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>>153810426
He's too lazy these are the proper designs until he wants to make them a different class
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>>153810858
The Alter Lancer.
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>>153810851
>I'm not as superficial

You're arguing with someone throwing a bitchfit over the existence of separate bonus content. He is.
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>>153810851
It's a clear sign of their willingness to pander to people who will pay real money to roll for those characters, and for merchandise of them, which can easily overshadow any effort of making them a cool original character.
Basically, they make them a character a female archetype for business reasons primarily, rather than for creative purposes.
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>>153810880
Not a problem as the existing designs are fine.
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>>153810776
>I can almost guarantee that if loli Jack had come first, a different version wouldn't have been made.

And that guarantee is based on what exactly?

Rad Vlad came first, then we got Sad Vlad, then Rad Vlad, and then the two ended up coexisting.
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>>153810914
But that makes no sense because male characters can bring in just as much money from fujos.
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>>153810914
>Basically, they make them a character a female archetype for business reasons primarily, rather than for creative purposes.

Are you the guy arguing FSN was his magnus opus and clearly far beyond what he's making now? The one with female King Arthur?
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>>153810860
The reason is loli Jack has and will continue making more money than SF Jack ever will.
Vlad is just a more fleshed out version all around. The main difference being that the original wasn't particularly popular or pandered to any specific audiences.
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How long til Nasu just deletes everything and republishes stay/night and leaves it alone as the masterpiece that it is?

GO is a mistake. Illya is a big mistake. HF movies are a huge mistake.

>you will never be 18 again reading the brand new VN for the first time
It hurts.
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>>153810966
The problem is the excessive overuse of genderbending. And Saber's was an integral part of her character and properly worked into it, not just a design thing.
Also, if you don't think FSN, KnK Tsuki are Nasu's best works, you genuinely have mental issues.
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>>153810934
>>153810967
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>>153810967
>The reason is loli Jack has and will continue making more money than SF Jack ever will.
That doesn't make any sense. What money was loli Jack making before FGO? She had like 1 figure and it binned hard.
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>>153811016
How is it a big issue if it's just a design thing?
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>>153810967
>Vlad is just a more fleshed out version all around. The main difference being that the original wasn't particularly popular or pandered to any specific audiences.

The original was the Apocrypha one who existed only as design. Spiky Vlad then was made, got a very limited showing in Extra and only got fleshed out in FGO. Then Apocrypha Vlad got a story. Then Spiky Vlad showed up in FGO.

Your arguments have no degraded to "just take my word for it that the examples that contradict me don't count" and "this separate content that I know is separate is different from the stories it is not meant to be treated as a continuation off and I can't handle it."

Either you're an extremely longwided troll, or a spectacularly sad autistic fuck.
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>>153811081
Because if it's purely a design thing, it's clear that they value how much money they can make out of that character's design than actually making them a good character.

>>153811069
More than SF Jack.
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>>153811100
You are delusional if you don't understand the basic concept of waifubucks. That's literally all I'm talking about.
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>>153811016
Not all the "genderbends" are for design thing. Da Vinci isn't. Anyway, he started doing this shit in Extra and before that Apocrypha, not FGO.
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>>153810739
But they're not side chapters. "Side" implies they're secondary parts of the story, when they're literally not part of the story at all. If you can't understand the difference between the actual story and events that are completely unrelated to the story, then the problem only lies with you. Actually, you're just being extra autistic because you said yourself that even you can distinguish between the two despite not being able to read the text at all. But for whatever reason you willfully choose to believe that completely separate events that have nothing to do with the main story somehow affect the main story, like an autist.
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>>153810739
>it's tone consistent, if you ignore the side chapters

Considering that the plot itself ignores those side chapters, this is very much a given.

I think the only issue here is that you're fucking bananas, and probably just butthurt that you feel left out because you can't read it.
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>>153811121
But people like Gil and Enkidu are shit characters too and they also brought in loads of money. So pandering is okay if it's for fujos?
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I actually like EXTRA Vlad more than Apocrypha Vlad. His inane rambling endears to me. It reminds me of the nonsense that TATARI yelled in his Arc Drive.
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>>153810739
>You're literally saying "it's tone consistent, if you ignore the side chapters

You mean the side chapters that are completely ignored by the plot? Yeah, that's not exactly a difficult request on the game's part.
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>>153811172
No one said so, I just said it's excessive in modern Fate in general.

>>153811181
>>153811189
>>153811251
They're stories. They sometimes reuse character from the main story, including the main characters. They're in the game, and thus should count as factors in judging the game.
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>>153797323
So basically he's the Fate equivalent of Uub.
Some random black kid who's probably some kind of god that he killed that was brought back as a human and was either raised or inspired by the real emiya shirou?
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And as we all know FSN definitely didn't have any tonally inconsistent segments between parts of the story that reused main characters.
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>>153811333
You're fucking crazy.

By your logic, Fate has a massive unanswered plothole regarding where souls go after death since Shirou's soul apparently goes to Taiga Dojo. No, no, look, it's in the game, it has to be exactly as serious and consistent as everything else. Hell, it's not even in a separate story, it's literally in the very route. This is a grievous inconsistency. Also all of Fate is shit with inconsistent mood since you said there's zany shit on it, and if the mere act of existing in the same piece of software is too much, existing within the same route should definitely be unacceptable. I mean, if different chapters entirely are too much, no manner of "transition" or scene flow could possibly suffice.
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>>153811333
>They sometimes reuse character from the main story, including the main characters. They're in the game

TEACH ME CIEL-SENSEI
TAIGA DOJO
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>>153797323
Well he is ALTER.

Alter's weird, man. I mean, despite being "blackened", Saber's hair and skin turned a lighter shade than what they originally were. She went from a blonde white girl to an albino.

So there's no reason that Blackening can't turn you into a nigger. This shit works the way it wants.
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>>153811333
>They're in the game, and thus should count as factors in judging the game.
They're not going to create a whole new app just to appease autists like you who can't distinguish the most basic things like what is story and what are events.
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>>153811481
>>153811499
>>153811523
Tiger Dojos are a fine "gameplay" mechanic first and foremost, to teach the player where they went wrong. The humour there also has a nice macabre contrast with the main story, which they do relate to on a meta level, and that culminates in the hot springs ending where they analyze the whole thing. They even use it for serious stuff sometimes, such as Illya getting mad in the superhero ending.
Most of all, they're a very minor part of the VN.
FGO events are not tied together in a clever way, and they are often the only piece of content the game gets in months. They exist for nothing but fanservice and pandering.

>>153811545
That's the fucking point, idiot. FGO should not have been a mobage. If they want silly shit, they can do it there. If they want to tell a proper story, literally any other medium would've been better.
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I don't think FGO would have worked outside a mobage medium. Part of the reason why nips cry Roman's loss and want him back was because he was a part of their every day life and experience for a year and five-four months. The emotional impact and involvement Nasu aimed with that loss was counting on the fact he was a familiar face and suddenly he's gone.
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>>153811631
>The fucking point is that I'm an autist who can't handle silly stuff and serious stuff existing in one piece of software despite them being easily separable and not relating to each at all
Good thing autists like you don't run the company.
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>>153811728
It could've definitely been done. With good writing.
Making the reader come back to play a mobile game every day is not a particularly skilled way to make them care about a character.

>>153811760
You're right. I'm sure TM will keep making much more money from braindead retards if they keep going like this.
"Running a company effectively" is not what I was talking about at all.
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I'm legitimately babbling in a mixture of frustration and confusion now. Grand order is the worst thing to ever happen to a franchise I used to love.
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>>153811791
The point was in the immersion. When Mashu died, she disappeared from your Servant supports, she was gone from the Master Mission too. There was a real life reaction that can't be replicate with just attachment which was rawer if that makes sense. Playing FGO is an experience in real life time, it's not the same if you pick it up later because you miss the memes Nasu even made canon (like Koujiro being a dragon slayer) and will feel disconnected with them.
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>>153811843
You know what other medium can reflect story events with gameplay consequences? A proper fucking videogame.
And memes are not equivalent of good storytelling.
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>>153811631
The problem is you're treating the story and silly parts being in a single package as inherently being a flaw. People who aren't you won't see it like that because they're capable of separating them themselves.
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>>153811791
>calls people braindead retards
>can't distinguish between the story and silly events
Sure man. At this point you're not talking about anything at all.
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>>153811899
You can beat a video game in a few days. It's not the same. Look, I'm not saying FGO is perfect because has its glaring flaws. It's jewish as fuck, fanservice, etc. But the way Nasu derived the story, little by little, letting you know these characters until they are part of your routine was actually good. The medium, as social game, is actually perfect for it. The fact that the last battle happened during Christmas gave it another meaningful symbolism to the whole thing.

I wouldn't change FGO as mobile game/social game as format. You can criticize and change other aspects, but that was actually an integral part of how the story played.
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>>153811948
>>153811953
They're different, but they are in the same package.
When you talk about FGO, you have to include the events, and all the mechanics inherent to it being a mobage, unless you specify that you're talking about the main story. This is undeniable.
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>>153811991
Sure. Agree to disagree, as long as you recognize the awful flaws of the medium and the many low points it has.
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>>153811997
Ok? What's your point?
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>>153812032
I'm willing to tolerate the bad for the emotional attachment it generates. To me, the good overcame the bad.

Each format has its low points. Or do you honestly think LN and VN are top tier format for literature and aren't for pandering?
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>>153811997
And pretty much everyone responding to you specified that they were talking about the story. But you, like an autist, went on to claim that the entirely separate and unrelated events created crazy "tonal shift" in the story or some other BS because you were incapable of distinguishing the two.
In the end, it all comes back to you not being able to distinguish two things that an actual autist would be able to distinguish.
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>>153808134
The end of the Age of Gods always relies on multple factors. Sefar murdering nearly evrything and weakening Gaia, Gil's rejection of the Babylonia Gods leading them to weaken even faster and lose the ability to manifest properly anymore, with shit like Ereshkigal's underworld taking longer to go away, and Solomon's actions in life and his sacrifice.

Plus stopping anyone who tries to restart the Age of Gods like Artoria did to her uncle Vortigen.
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>>153812047
That the events and other mobage stuff bog down FGO.

>>153812070
Nope. The discussion has always been about FGO and what it means for TM as a whole.

>>153812066
I think they're much more effective at conveying a story and don't rely as much cheap money making tactics, which includes having lots of useless content (though they do have a lot of fluff compared to western literature).
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>>153812126
>That the events and other mobage stuff bog down FGO.
But they don't. Because like I said, people who aren't you are capable of separating events from the main story as being different things.
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>>153812126
Uh...no? How does "Events create tonal shift in the story" have to do with FGO and TM as a whole? It clearly has to do with you not being able to distinguish two clearly distinguishable elements and calling the story shit because of it. That particular discussion deals with the story, and your dumb criticism of the story based on something that has nothing to do with it at all.
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>>153812186
Events and all the mobage shit are still part of the experience and you will have to deal with it in one way or another if you want to get into FGO.
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>>153808201
Reminder that Hisui didn't make it to the Tsukihime remake
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>>153812251
No one said within the story. It's the consistency of FGO as a whole.
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>>153812103
End of the Age of Gods =/= Beginning of the Age of Men. Please understand the different. It could have been the Age of Werewolves next.
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>>153812292
And stuff like Carnival Phantasm fucks with the consistency of Fate and Tsuki as a whole, right? Or maybe, it only fucks with the consistency if you're too autistic to tell apart which of those is the serious story and which of those is the silly stuff that just uses characters from the serious stories in fun and comedic ways.
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>>153812262
>>153812292
But again, you're acting like these aspects are an inherent flaw. This just seems like a problem with you.
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>>153812368
No. Really? It's not even part of the same product.

>>153812394
Obviously mobages have their own crowd who enjoy them. No fucking shit.
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>>153812436
So your problem is that this time around FSN and Carnival Phantasm are bundled in the same package? lmao
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>>153812347
Werewolves are too furry.

An age of Altera sized giants is more probable considering she's made from civilizations nommed by Velber.
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>>153812436
I'm glad we've settled that this whole thread is just your own autism and lack of self awareness rather than an actual problem with FGO.
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>>153812476
That's not even close to one of the main issues, CP didn't have a gacha, awful servant designs, or a self-insert protagonist.
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Age of Fakers
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>>153812520
Sure. Hope this was enough to convince you to neck yourself.
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>>153812539
Age of Velber.

Velber vs Beasts vs Tyes vs Humanity.
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Age of Maids
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So When we getting Avenger Female Hitler
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>>153812595
Age of Saberface
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>>153812555
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>>153812622
Age of Delicious Food With No Uncooked Potatoes or Anything With Tentacles And Also A Ginger Japanese High School Student Who Just Wants to Make You Happy
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>>153812678
>You'll never live in this age
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Fucking poorfags who can't buy gacha and complain about everything should just kill themselves desu. At least unlucky shitters had at least try and roll before complaining
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>>153812729
Saber's living that age for eternity in Avalon, though.
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>>153812729
>>153812764
>Artoria gets to live the dream with her perfect husbando
>Nero cries on her SOUSHA YO's corpse
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>>153810972
>making a shitton of YEN

>dropping it

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>153812758
>I uselessly dump money on a shit-tier waifu game for 0 benefit, and I'm proud of it
Grats on your parents' fortune.
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>>153797323
Saber REALLY needs to be BLACKED now.
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>>153812477
The point is that even if those actions, including Solomon's, weakened gods' power. The Age of Men is explicitly referred as Solomon's beloved legacy because his direct action is what made them rise to power. Any other lifeform could have taken the gods' place. Is that clearer to you now? There was a before and after about humans with Solomon which wasn't in Gil's or Altera's time.
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