Dragon ball super

Don't you ever call me a lad.

still waiting for studiomegaane and the full version
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VnTquyUDuqw

>>153784854
Can someone explain to me why chapter 21 didnt introduce a plot hole about the lore of time travelling in series?

Gohan > F.Trunks
Never forget

What happens if 18 was ever able to fuse with Krillin? Would the result be female or male? Would the result be a shortstack qt with dots on her forehead?

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Are Trunks and Piccolo the only ones who even love Vegeta anymore?

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hi.

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Imagine of he was stronger then beerus and champa

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>>153784988
Surprisingly, Chi Chi is pretty nice to him. They've only interacted once in the entire series though and haven't interacted yet in the manga.

>>153785057
>he

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>Gohan... I couldn't protect the world...

Damn. Is this the darkest ending in DB history?

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>>153784999
hi.

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Leave Hit's virginity to me.

>>153784988
> Piccolo
> love Vegeta
You sure?

>>153785074
Dont project your perversion unto him

>>153785181
What? You have to spick human, please!

>>153785141
What's wrong with a doc loving his patient?

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>>153785062
She probably wants to fuck him since he's basically a less retarded version of Goku.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cTo9xrYKhak

>>153785181
Pero que toryiama es uno hack.
Scussi pero meu espanhol yo no so spic

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>>153785062
Cute.

>>153785089
Super is pretty dark when you think about how casually the Zen-oh sama's destroy (probably inhabited) planets in what is literally a game to them.

>>153785217
Come mierda gringo hpta

>>153785181
10ft higher.

>>153785224
>complaining that he never does anything around the house
>implying the briefs can't afford to hire 100 servants to do everything for them
Dumb Chi Chi.

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>>153785074
>Thinking new male character is a girl

Great, it's Cabba all over again. I'm ready for the butthurt when he makes his debut.

>>153785240
> thinks there's a life at every one of them

>>153785350
It's definitely a girl.

>>153785224
All of her commentaries are fun to listen to. Take a shot every time she says delinquent.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vgNzd5yhHGg

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Who is best DB character and why is it Fat Buu?

>>153785365
Almost every planet they visit in the show is inhabited.

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>>153784981
Trunks is fine too

>>153785418
What's the point in visiting non ingabitated planets?

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>>153785224
Why is dub Chi Chi so thirsty for manlet dick? Like that filler episode where she proposed that she and Bulma swap husbands.

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>>153785381
Sure anon, sure.

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>>153785404

>>153785475
Mais tu vas fermer ta geule de pute sale petit con. Je te jure je vais niquer ta race

>>153785507
Manlets are the Alphas of Dragon Ball. Notice how Krillin and Vegeta both have 11/10 wives? It's no coincidence. DB is the opposite of our reality.

>>153785507
She's a princess. She wants a prince.

>>153785507
And Bulma regretted not fucking Goku in Namek.
Yeah, maybe they should just swap husbands.

>>153785523

Roshi's pretty damn bad ass too, I won't hide. I can't contest against his natural charisma.

>>153784948
Anyone???

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>>153785589

>>153785507
Which episode was that? Did they do it?

>>153785589
She regretted that the only man she'd been with was Yamacha and was starting to get real desperate.

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>>153785475
I actually know tow languages (english and russian), it's just that spanish is not one of them

>>153785706
> tow
I mean "two"
sorry

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>>153785631
It was one of the last episodes. She brought it up as a joke because she noticed Bulma was worried about Goku. But it only happened in the Funi dub. In the original she says that she's much prettier than Bulma and then shits on Yamcha for trying to compliment her.

>>153784988
>Bulma cries out for Goku before her husband

What the fuck is this bullshit

>>153785746
>sorry
Apology accepted.

>>153785754
>piccolo and vegeta have the exact same look on their face
What did they mean by this?

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>>153784854

>>153785523
Who is he going to fight?

>>153785350
Did people really think Cabba was going to be a girl?

>>153785817
Why don't their moustaches connect?

>>153785823
FemBroly. He'll say/do something which triggers her LSSJ transformation.

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does he have autism?

>>153785813
They fucked Chi-Chi after the party.

AyyLmao fight when?

It's the only think I'm really looking forward too

where's the FemBroly smut?

>>153785912
>a fat manchild
well he is your average 4chan user

>>153784925
Does anyone think that image looks like danganronpa?

Also Gohan is forever the strongest db character

>>153785876
>FemBroly. He'll say/do something which triggers her LSSJ transformation.
Does that mean he's going to lose?

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>>153785467
There is no point. What I mean is, that whenever they show random planets, they all seem to be inhabited.
Just look at these two beautiful blue worlds. I'm sure there must've been some kind of life on them.

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>>153785754
Chi Chi should wear casual clothes more often instead of those chink dresses she seems to have an endless supply of.

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>>153785171
Wait, we're not perverts?

>>153785853
Yes.

>Look at those eyes and that body, it's clearly a girl
>Delicious saiyan girl

>>153785652
You mean the only man she could get. Bulma is far from being the ideal Japanese woman. She literally started traveling around the world during her summer break just so she could wish for a boyfriend.

>>153786021
Dude both of them were earth you can clearly see asia and japan on the left one and africa and the mid east on the right one.

>>153786018
He'll probably have one opponent to face off against in which he'll win using some cool techniques. It'll be later that he loses.

>>153786074
It would have been nice if Cabba was chick but you know the model would have been way sexier if he was a she.

>>153785181
>Bills
Ningen you better don't start

>>153786102
So they destroyed two earths? Earth has life.
This shot clearly was not from the game board, but showed what actually happened by them playing.

>>153786176
>implying you don't want to fuck that saiyan twink

>>153786281
I am not a homosexual. So no, I don't want to fuck that "saiyan twink".

>>153784948
What's the plot hole? Time travel by the gods creates one fixed timeline, brute forcing it through human made time machines creates an aberrant timeline. Simple.

Goku Black is a paradox created from the two forms of time travel contradicting each other.

>>153786011
now that you mention it, yes

>>153785546
Parle mieux dégénéré.

>>153785706
I wish I could speak Russian. I'll try learning one day.

>>153786281
I'd fug manga Cabba.

>>153786334
No apparently the problem in chapter 21 is bulma saying that you have to wait the same period of time to travel to the other timeline or else you risk up ending in a different world and that contradicts with the fact that trunks was 17 when he came to earth to give goku the heart medecine and 3 years later he was still 17 and not 20 which he should be according to bulma's theory

>>153786434
C est toi le petit con qui fait pleins de fautes d orthographes et de grammaires. Sale Petace

>>153785089
Don't worry, in the manga version, Toyotaro doesn't give a fuck about humans, the ending will not be depressing.

>>153786666
Thanks Satan.

>>153784837
In the Manga isn't base trunks just as strong as ssj3 goku

>>153786666
>making Zamasu and Black not retarded means Toyotaro hates humans
Nice logic there, Satan.

Who is stronger??? Mystic Gohan in the Buu Arc or Future Trucks in the Black Arc.

>>153786465
I was actually born as a russian-speaker, even though I've NEVER been in Russia
I actually live in Estonia, which is like a really tiny country right next to Russia (you know Baltic sea?)
And I don't know how it happened, but I learned english like almost perfectly. I can read stuff in english, watch stuff in english and write stuff in english and understand everything. That was even before finishing the school.

More on the topic here, even though I live right next to Russia, I never seen russian dub. I know it was shown on the channel 2x2, but that's Russian-only, our country didn't have it.

>>153786776
Trunks cut Merged Zamasu in half, while Gohan jobbed to Super Buu.

>>153785615

Good thing the boat she missed was literally the Titanic.

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>>153786666
>Being happy about it

Go watch DB(Z) if you want the same thing over and over again!


Toei's ending was a great idea, heroes can't wi everytimes, even though they ruined it with the doppelganger.

I though Toyotaro will handle it better, pic related made me think that he could handle drama better than toei.

Oh god I was wrong.

>>153786666
What the fuck are you talking about, the humans died in the anime too retard.

>>153785764
To be fair Goku has ALWAYS been there for her and is damn near unbeatable and very dependable.

He has saved her and the planet almost every single time or at least had the power to do so

>>153786833

Lets keep the discussion to cannon material only...

>>153786694
>>153786738

Zamasu and Black in anime were just sadistic.

If I follow your logic, they should have killed all the ningens from the start.

Lucky usn DB isn't berserk.

>muh drama

>>153786916
It will be the same in the manga and you know it.

>>153786564
>pas d'apostrophe
>orthographeS
>grammaireS
>Petace
Retourne en CP abruti. On dirait que t'as pas fini to éducation.

>>153786823
Yeah of course I know Estonia, I'm not American I'm French. Do you speak Estonian too ?
English is a pretty easy language, somehow I learned it fast too. I on't know how the Russian dub is, but the French one is pretty good. I guess Dragon Ball is one of the only anime where /a/ cannot autistically reject the dub since everyone has watched the dub when they were younger. Goku's Japanese voice still irks me.

>>153785089
Poor Trunks, most of his life is just him suffering.

>>153786936
>>>153786564
explain how zamasu took over the earth with his face

>>153786904
Retard don't know what I mean.

In the anime, humans were a lot present, Mei and Trunks was their heroes and leaders. In the manga, they just show when they die.

>>153786958
I'm more used to Goku's japanese voice because they didn't translate the yells. It was weirdly hilarious seeing Goku and others talk in super deep voices before screeching every time they were in battle.

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>>153785399
>Yamcha
>he was the worst example for Gohan
TOP FUCKING KEK

>>153786936
They were having fun taking their time to kill humans.
But they decided to kill the last remaining humans now because they were afraid that Zeno would find out about it.

>>153786994
>Mei
Oh, it's you again.

>>153786994
Who gives a fuck?

>>153787024
Explain to me how their idea sin't retarded?

>Oh shit, zeno will know about it
>Let's kill the remaining humans, this way, zeno will know more easily about our genocide.

If they just want to accomplish their plan more faster, okay but if you say that they do it to hide it from zeno....

>>153786994
God that must have sounded retarded. Using women to voice little children is ok, but they really should stop when they become adults. And having the same voice actress for 3 related characters is awful.

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>>153787060
What's up?

>>153787090
They would kill the remaining mortals on Earth and then move on to another planet. Dumbass.

>>153787163
Isn't earthling the last remaining mortal?

>>153786994
>Mei

Playing to Overwatch with the most cancerous character hah?

anyone has that infographics with the hierarchical power ratings?

>>153786776
Future trunks by far.

He is around ssjb level if not more.

Mystic gohan was around ssj3 level. While he was stronger it wasn't by all that much.

Ssjb level can one hit ssj3 level.

I seriously doubt mystic gohan could one hit ssj2 vegeta let alone ssj3 goku

>>153787267
She's not my main.

But you're right, rank 3205, spend too much time in this game, probably why I always mess up with Mei/Mai.

>>153786102
>>153786216

No no, this is a case of the artists being lazy.

Was the green jupiter shown a few seconds before actually jupiter but green? No, it was the animators using the public domain NASA images and fucking with the hue slider.

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>Buu has to go all out to beat some jobber from universe 9
>people somehow think roshi, kirillen, tien, the androids and piccolo are going to be in any way competitive

>>153786994
>Being sarcarstic

You know, a lot of manga contains enough of drama to feed you.

>>153787326
>Mystic gohan was around ssj3 level. While he was stronger it wasn't by all that much.

He was way ahead of SSJ3.
He was toying with Super Buu, while SSJ3 was kinda relative to serious Fat Buu.
Plus, that was without his own SSJ forms stacked on-top.
Though, you're right that FTrunks would body at this point.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=15x3S6OCNDM

>>153787376
>hue slider
That would explain why the cloud pattern is almost exactly the same on both earths.

>>153787090
Zeno is omni-king but the irony is he clearly isn't omniscient. Zamasu probably figured that if no one was around to contact the omni-king he wouldn't notice, since it seems like it's the grand priest's job sending angels out to find gods of destruction,

The flaw in this is if there was ever a summons of Kais or GoDs to Zeno's dimension such as the tournament they'd notice when one universe was missing.

>>153787446
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGXZSTnFJ2U

>>153787379
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=23Tsgvby5L8

all you need

>>153787326
SSJ Gotenks was SSJ3 level

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>>153787446
>Yamaha Piano

>>153787428
>was without his own SSJ forms stacked on-top.
Literally not possible. Mystic is his 100% power, he can't go past that by going SSJ, it would make him weaker.

Anyone else hope that the humans get a dose of that sweet god ki and buffs them up to like SSJ2 levels?
They'd still be weaker than the main 5 (Goku/Vegeta/Buu/Gohan/Piccolo), but they'd stand a chance instead of being cannon fodder.

>>153787576
>it would make him weaker.
Headcanon

>>153786958
>Retourne en CP abruti. On dirait que t'as pas fini to éducation.
Que tu n'as pas fini ton éducation. Avant de se la jouer faut aussi le prouver.

>>153787428
Ssj3 could have killed majin Buu.

Ssj3 was around kid buu power.

At least goku says he could have killed buu and he never lies

Also that doesn't matter.

There's no fucking way mystic gohan could have one hit ssj3 goku. I doubt he could even do that to vegeta.

Meanwhile we know for a fact that Ssjb levels can one hit ssj3 as we've seen Beerus do it multiple times, Vegeta and goku all one hit ssj3 level fighters and knock them out in a single hit.


Future Trunks is far beyond Mystic Gohan level

Why do you hate the Kai dub ?

>>153787596
>Mystic is his full power drawn out
>literally stated by the old kai to be more effective than transforming into super saiyan
>somehow transforming into SSJ1 makes him stronger than his full power at SSJ2
???
You're a dumbass.

>>153786666
Go watch shoujo if you want drama.

>>153787428
>SSJ forms stacked on-top
Ps. It doesn't work like that.

Mystic is his full power and he accessed it by trying to go into Ssj.

Mystic can not stack any transformations

>>153787681
Where does it says it would make him weaker, bitch? If anything it just wouldn't do shit.

>>153786958
> Do you speak Estonian too ?
No. I'm absolutely terrible at Estonian. I have no idea how I passed the exams, but I did. Must have been a combination of luck and kind teachers. My english grades were always 5, but estonian grades were 3 most of the time, occasionaly 4. Estonian is just a very freaking hard language (for example: you know, how Russian has 6 grammatical cases? Well Estonian has 14!!!), and it's really forgettable.
Also, a fun fact: while I haven't seen russian or estonian dub of DBZ, I saw estonian dub of Digimon Frontier. Like, the whole season. TWICE! Because it was so convenient, it was aired right before I had to go to school. Because it was Estonian, I couldn't understand anything, and yet I was just mesmerized by the stuff happening onscreen.


In terms of my experience with Dragon Ball, it was an interesting case.
The first time I came in contact with DB franchise was Advanced Adventure on GBA (on the emulator of course). I finished the whole game. Some time after that I saw Kai on the internet, it kinda looked like that game, so I got interested and started watching it. I watched only 20 episodes, because only about 20 were released at the time. And then forgot about it again. Eventually I remembered and watched Z, picking off from where I ended in Kai (which was when they started flying off to Namek). Then I watched the movies, then GT. And I didn't really disliked it, I kinda just didn't see any of the flaws while I was watching it. And then, a couple years ago I finally watched Dragon Ball.
Oh, also. I watched sub, obviously. So I'm kinda used to granma Goku and don't mind it at all.

>>153786879
Did Bulma die?

>>153787702
But can it get stronger, though?

>>153787692
>>153787403

Don't you want to see something new? Like an ending which talk about losing everything, then overcome it without being too cheesy like toei did?

DB doesn't need to be the same thing over and over again.

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>>153787380
>Beerus tells Whis to train all of the participants

Easy way to buff them in story, but it probably won't happen

>>153787745
It has to, since he has to be stronger than his Buu Saga self.

>>153787745
Yeah with training. Once you hit your full potential zenkai doesn't work and you need to start training. Trunks potential was probably similar to that one of Gohan, shame old kai was killed.

>>153787736
DIdn't you read the manga or watch the anime?

>>153787745
It's his full fucking potential and power unleashed.

It can not get any transformations stacked on top of it.

Could mystic Gohan train and eventually get stronger? Maybe but it's his max fucking power and potential dawn out.

Only thing after that is God ki.


Mystic Gohan is likely stronger than ssj2 Future Trunks. But far far weaker than Future Trunks God ki LSSJ form or whatever you want to call his enraged form

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>>153787022
I don't even remember Yamcha and Gohan interacting.

>>153787850
No I'm just lurking.

>>153787821
>shame old kai was killed.
Was he though? Did they ever show him killed? We know supreme Kai was hunted down but do we see old Kai killed?

>>153787769
>ending which talk about losing everything, then overcome it without being too cheesy like toei did
It can still happen in the manga.

>>153787637
>les contractions sont maintenant des fautes.
Bon assez discuté ça ne sert à rien.

>>153787723
If it's anything like Finnish it must be weird.
DB and DBZ were everywhere here. Impossible not to know it. You should read the manga though, it's pretty good too.

>>153787922
in the manga, dabra petrified the Z-sword and it got destroyed

>>153787922
He's probably talking about the manga, where Future Dabura turns the Z Sword into stone and vaporizes it afterwards.

>>153787947
I dunno anon, Trunks doesn't seems to care anymore in the manga, without any ties with humans beside Mai.

Gowasu was the only one caring about humans in the last chapter.

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>>153787922

>>153788009
so did Beerus seal the old geezer so that Beerus can take naps without the danger of being killed?

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WHY DON'T WE HAVE MORE SAIYANS DEALING WITH GUNS?

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>>153788068
I have your back buddy!

>>153785990
That's not true. He seems pretty happy and has fun.

>>153787776
Trying to teach people of different levels at the same time is a logistical nightmare. The humans would probably be better off training with Kaio or some other weakling.

>>153787721
Mystic and SSJ are two completely different things. SSJ is a boost, Mystic is his max power. Mystic Gohan turning SSJ would be the same as SSJ3 Goku turning SSJ, it'll make him weaker.

>>153788068
>reading someone's ki and controlling it is the special technique exclusive to the earth warrior

Huh? can't every character do that?

>>153786033
They also need to give her back her bangs. She looks like she's balding with her current hairstyle. If they can let Bulma's hair change for Super, I don't see why the same can't happen for Chichi.

>>153788237
The only people who can that aren't Z-fighters were #16, Cell, Majin Buu, and the gods(seemingly). the Saiyans, Frieza, and 17/18 can't. Pretty much only a very few villains could do that, which was the entire premise of Raditz vs Goku and Piccolo.

>>153787650

Ignore the anime for a second. I haven't seen a single thing in the manga to suggest future trucks is stronger than mystic gohan.

BTFO future truck fags

>>153787650
Super Buu is stronger then any other version of Buu. A serious Fat Majin Buu was making Super Saiyan 3 Goku freak out. A weakened Super Buu was flat out beyond Goku's league while he knew Gohan would manhandle him.

There is a big gulf in power between Super Buu and Majin Buu or Kid Buu.

>>153788237

Non-Earthlings had to learn it. Even piccolo

>>153788408
Trunks SSJ2 is stronger than post RoF SSJ3 Goku
Are you really implying SSJ3 Goku is still weaker than Mystic?

What if old Kai gave Gohan a top up and reunlocked his potential for him.

Why do you guys refer to Gohan after getting his potential unlocked by the Elder Kaioshin as "Mystic" Gohan? Only thing I ever found was they called him "Chou" Gohan which just roughly translates to "Super Gohan" or "Ultimate" Gohan. Is this a fanon or dub thing to call him Mystic Gohan?

>>153788540
What if Old Kai unlocked Vegetas potential

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>>153788548
US people started calling him Mystic becuse who knows

>>153787380
>no candy beam
It ain't all out.

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How badly will he job lads? I can't wait to see Tien fight again, he was one of my favorite characters in DB. But I feel like they brought him along for fodder purposes.

>>153785103
>>153784999

Do you ever wonder if ChiChi regrets marrying Goku?

>>153788548
No idea. Mystic sounds gay as fuck.

I demand that Old Kai fuck Videl as payment to reunlock some potential. Get on it Toei.

>>153788611
I hope he dies.

>>153788611
I hope he stops dressing like a fag

>>153787859
They said Gohan would get no change in power just a cosmetic change in his hair color. Besides I'm pretty sure at least via the original manga it goes in power from strongest to weakest:

Super Buu (Gohan) > Super Buu (Super Saiyan 3 Gotenks) > Super Buu (Piccolo + Goten + Trunks) > Super Buu (Buff) > Majin Buu = Kid Buu > Evil Buu > Mr. Buu

And speaking of Buu, will Uub ever show in DBS?

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>>153786011
how does it look like dangan?

>>153788611
He will get a moment.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YY9g-0d7BK0

>>153788657
What is he wearing for the upcoming tournament?

Please let it be Cell Saga clothes and shoulders

>>153788213
>Source
>My Ass

>>153788548
Its from dubfags making up fanshit to call him that.

>>153788510

Mystic Gohan was clearly stronger than super buu in the manga and only "lost" because of a trick. Super buu included the power of SSJ3 gotenks. SSJ3 gotenks was clearly stronger than SSJ3 goku (just inexperienced).

Therefore. Yes. Mystic Gohan was stronger than SSJ3 Goku and Future Trucks.

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>>153787495
Is this true?

I want to fuck Bulma

>>153788729
He's not *completely* wrong. Super Saiyan transformations are power multipliers, at least theoretically when you add in side stuff explained in the Daizenshuus.

>>153788408
The arc isn't even over in the manga yet.

>>153788729
Everyone knows this but you

>>153785754
Vegeta and Piccolo's faces are so funny here

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>>153785404
Kaioshin Population Control

God Ki= Stackable Mystic (SSJB)

Its the only way to explain how Trunks kept even with SSJ3 Goku at the beginning of the Zamasu arc. Goku should be one-shotting SSJ2 Trunks in base form otherwise.

>>153788729
Are you fucking stupid or just baiting?

>>153788764

So you're saying right now, based on the manga, ultimate (mystic) gohan is stronger.

Thanks

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>>153788146
Implying we don't have fun bullying spics.

>>153788795
Fuck you, West Kaioshin was a cute.

>>153788801
>>153788749
>Mystic

>>153787859
>Mystic Gohan is likely stronger than ssj2 Future Trunks
Mystic Gohan would laugh Dabra and Fat Buu out of existence. Trunks was getting his ass wiped by Dabra, that tells you the strength difference.

Reminder that it's canon now that Mystic is a form just like SSJ

quints and Gohan is strongest

>>153788814
I'm saying that we should wait until the arc is done in the manga. Discussing it now is useless.

>>153788854
Different time Dabura might be stronger than our Dabura

>>153785404
Imperfect Cell

>>153788237
Only vegeta learned it because of dealing with earthlings. Not sure how he even learned it.

Cell can do it because he has goku, piccolo, and vegeta cells?

Frieza and radditz and vegeta all needed scouters when they first meet earthlings.

But learned it from earthlings too I think since he is some kind of fighting savant just like Goku

I don't remember any other villains being able to sense power except maybe 16. Guess gero added a scouter app in him

>>153788854
Trunks was SS1 when Dabura was kicking his ass, you fucking retard.

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>>153788889

>>153788677
...> Super Buu (Buff) = Majin Buu > Kid Buu = Evil Buu > Mr. Buu

ftfy

>>153788856
I guarantee that they'll end up giving Gohan "Mystic Super Saiyan" or something like that

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>>153788842
she was better

>>153788677
>Super Buu (Gohan) > Super Buu (Super Saiyan 3 Gotenks) > Super Buu (Piccolo + Goten + Trunks) > Super Buu (Buff) > Majin Buu = Kid Buu > Evil Buu > Mr. Buu

Evil Boo (Gohan) > Evil Boo (SSJ3 Gotenks) > Buff Boo > Evil Boo > Pure Boo > Fat Boo(original) > Pure Evil Boo > Fat Boo(Good)

Buuccolo has no official reading on the chart, he could easily be weaker than Buff Buu for all we know.

>>153788856
>Mystic

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>>153788842
West Kaioshin was for fug and /ourguy/'s dark age.

>>153788838
>Screencap full of people begging and asking to be in the screencap

Defeats the purpose and takes away all enjoyment of screencapping cool moments. Just makes it feel forced.

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So when is toei going to reveal humans have some secret power
When is tenshinhan going to get pushed to god level

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>>153788943
ssj vegetto > buuhan > buutenks > mystic gohan > buucollo > super buu = ssj3 gotenks > kid buu > majin buu > grey buu > fat buu

>>153789007
yeah, they did ruin the keks at the time :(

>>153788974
Super Buu with Piccolo absorbed also had the power of Goten and Trunks minus the combined fusion of Gotenks being dispersed from his body. The only statements regarding Buff Buu is that he's stronger then Kid Buu since both Vegeta and Goku state when he reverts to his true form that both his Ki and size are lesser then before.

So all we can definitely say is that Super Buu/Buff Buu is > Kid Buu/Majin Buu/Evil Buu/Mr. Buu.

>>153788936
Okay then (post elder-kai potential boosted) SSJ1 Boo Arc Gohan would still laugh Dabra back to the demon realm, he shits on Trunks.

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shame this form didn't get any action against goku or vegeta

>>153786958
>Gokus japanese voice still irks me
Fuck you i like gokus japanese voice

>>153787576
Headcanon

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>>153789061
when super buu reverts to buff buu
goku and vegeta mention that his Ki is actualy rising instead of dropping.
but when he changes from buff buu to kid buu (pure buu) they say that his ki is dropping again.

>>153789076
What happened to the buff Kaioshin parts anyway since he is clearly not in Fat Buu nor Kid Buu

>>153788749
>>153788409
It doesn't matter if Mystical Gohan was stronger than ssj3. We all agree that he was.

But there is NO evidence that mystic Gohan was so far in power that he was able to OHKO ssj2 vegeta let alone SSJ3 Goku. ZERO EVIDENCE.

While we have a lot of evidence that SSJB levels can one shot ssj3 level fighters. Hell. SSJB is even further gap because current ssj3 is massively stronger than buu arc ssj3.


Future Trunks is massively more powerful than mystic gohan.

>>153789118
granny goku a shit

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>>153788986
Did Toyo ever finish his AF manga?

The rough draft of the final chapter got leaked, but did he ever actually finish it?

>>153789118

I preferred that voice being evil (Black).

>>153789064
Hurr, no fucking shit that a character with power boost would shit on a character without a power boost.

You have to compare SS1 Gohan to SS1 Trunks, retard.

>>153789061
>The only statements regarding Buff Buu is that he's stronger then Kid Buu
No, Goku says that his ki is stronger than before, in regards to Super Buu.

>>153789061
>Vegeta and Goku state when he reverts to his true form that both his Ki and size are lesser then before.
This is taken from Herms: "He’s shrunk" is chidzimu, which typically refers to physical shrinking (like with Bulma's Micro Band) and throughout DB is never used to refer to ki diminishing. So Vegeta's probably talking about how Boo’s body has shrunk. That doesn't mean Boo's ki didn't go down too, but it's not what Vegeta's talking about here."

So Vegeta was refering to his size, nothing says he was referring to his ki, but it's possible, just never stated.

>>153789061
>Super Buu/Buff Buu is > Kid Buu/Majin Buu/Evil Buu/Mr. Buu.
Yeah, I agree with this 100%, and Buuccolo as you said is probably stronger than previously listed >>153788974

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>>153789118
the old lady helium voice is annoying to listen too.
goku is a grown man, not a little kid.

>>153788540
I doubt it works since Gohan hasn't been training as much so his current potential is lower or maybe his body can't handle it like when he tried using ssj during rof

>>153789160
no

>>153789156
>Mystical
Stop that.

>>153789138
That was Super Buu after Gohan, Piccolo, Goten, and Trunks were removed from his body. The comparison was with a Super Buu who didn't have those absorbed in his body's power with that with his smaller form.

>>153789197
Potential cant be go lower through not doing anything
It is literally his max ever

>>153787650
>>153789156
This nigga can't read

>>153788751
I don't remember him using a ssj form lower than ssj3

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>>153789197
apparantly gohan has been doing some training with piccolo.
but not on the level like he did in the past.
he still struggles to go ssj in db super

>>153788801
What

>>153789263
He went SSJ1 a few times, and the Daizenshuu states that he went SSJ2 for 1 panel, so that one is arguable.

>>153789263
First fight Gotenks had with Super Buu had him and Buu fighting evenly with each other while he was only using the Super Saiyan regular form against him.

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>>153789237
he still has the potential, he has just gotten weaker, rusty and out of shape from not training or maintaining his form.

he lost the elder kai power up, he can't go ssj2 and he struggles going ssj.

goku or vegeta just needs to drag gohan in the room of time and put him through some brutal training to get him back into shape

>>153789017
There secret power is hiding ki and sensing ki.

>>153789237
Vegeta literally said Gohan's potential is better then his or Goku's recently.

>>153789197
>>153789286
Gohan is now stronger than he ever was before.

>apparantly gohan has been doing some training with piccolo.
>apparently
Do you even watch the fucking series? he's been training for 50 episodes now

>but not on the level like he did in the past. he still struggles to go ssj in db super
No he doesn't, he did back in the Frieza saga, 50 episodes ago.

You people don't even watch the anime

>>153789387
No, they need a Super Human form.
Literally every other race transforms, Humans need a new form

>>153788986
I really don't even remember these guys.

I only remember hulk Kai and fat kai

>>153788619
Nah she still loves goku even by all his laws

>>153789197
He was training a shit ton with Piccolo and we saw him getting even more back into shape when he shows up at the end of Future Trunk's goodbye before leaving.

>>153789064
>>153789175
SSJ2 future trunks would shit all over ssj2 gohan

>>153789374
read >>153789402

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j5sRnyLHSvU

And then this arc we're told that Gohan is now stronger than he ever was.

>>153788720
that was so awesome, even if it didn't accomplish much, it was badass

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>>153789374
funsexydragonball needs to do shit with Super Buu.

>>153789416
Green Gi Guy on the left is an AF OC.

West Kaioshin is the woman on the right

There were five Kaioshin:

>Old man (North)
>Alive (East)
>Hulk (South)
>Fat (Grand)
>Certainly had sex with all of the above (West)

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>>153789465
Totally. Even Goku got scared
1/2

>>153789196
Yeah but gokus personality fits perfectly with japanese voice

>>153789159
Yeah i know you americans perfer your superman goku

>>153789416
West Kaioshin was the female Kaioshin that fought Kid Buu in a losing fight and got killed. North Kaioshin I think was the older one with a mustache who used a sword and also got killed by Kid Buu after a short fight. South Kaioshin was the strongest Kaioshin and along with the Grand aka Dai-Kaioshin got absorbed by Kid Buu first going to Super Buff Buu then to Fat Majin Buu we all know.

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>Humans extinct
>Means no shitty Genki Dama asspull
Fuck yeah.

>>153789239
Go up further in the chain. The point about how strong Gohan or buu is moot when the original question is about Gohan compared to future trunks.

There's no evidence that Gohan is as far ahead of ssj3 aso future trunks is compared to ssj3.

The other problem with this is that we are comparing future trunks to current arc gokus ssj3 which is far stronger than the ssj3 levels during mystic gohans time.

>>153789564
I'm not even American. Try again.

Not everyone is down with a voice that high coming out of a grown adult.

>>153789573

The energy can be taken from plants, etc.

>>153789237
Yeah but can his body even keep up with that level of power anymore? He couldn't even withstand the strain of going ssj1 now let alone ssj2.

And his mystic form was far stronger than his ssj2 form. Hell if he had a ssj3 form his mystic would be even stronger than that

Now let it sink in that he can't even handle ssj1 anymore

>>153789573
They still showed Trunks slicing Merged Zamasu in half during that next arc preview video. Maybe there won't be a genki dama, but the way he will defeat Zamasu won't be that different.

Created a poll to see where /a/'s general preference and taste in GoDs lie because I've seen everyone liking and hating every GoD design so far and to reduce anonymous samefagging to a degree.

http://www.strawpoll.me/12396021
http://www.strawpoll.me/12396021
http://www.strawpoll.me/12396021

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>spics think Gohan couldn't stack SSJ on Mystic
>implying "potential" means shit in DB when everyone just gets more powerful constantly anyway

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>>153789526
2/2

>>153789656
>The energy can be taken from plants, etc.
You mean those weak ass Geki Dama that couldn't even kill Vegeta or Freeza?

>>153789740
Yeah gohan totally could stack SSJ on top he just didnt do it for some reason even when getting trashed by Buutenks right

>>153789526
>"I never settled for the power this transformation brings."

At least someone realizes that the villains get stronger every arc.

>>153789403
Other races transform because they can't control their power or to hide their power.

Humans are experts at controlling their ki and can lower it to undetectable levels. They can also raise their ki to max power quickly so there is no reason for them to transform.

Human max power forms would just be mystic form like gohan

Lets not forget that Trunks naturally reached SSJ2 and SSJ2 Powered Up while Vegeta never managed to reach SSJ2 before Babidi

>>153789750
In the Viz translation, Vegeta says SS2 Trunks is as strong as SS3 Goku.

>>153789839
Prove it, you ningen.

>>153789767

Yes, Trunks' sword didn't need any more either.

>>153789740
>>153789769
Has he done it? Use Saikyo no Senshi and SSJ?

or you're just speculating?

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posting best version of WE GOTTA POWER
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xatvtnIUu2g

>>153789894
?

>>153785615
Toriyama's art is so pretty

>>153789387
It's a shit power though

>>153789767
First case was a new technique that Goku learned that he using in battle and din't have enough time to actually make it right.

Second case, Freeza didn't even suffer any noticeable damag. Not to mention on how sturdy his species is.

Gohan vs Trunks:

A rusty teenage Gohan fought Dabura back the main timeline(3) during the Buu Saga. Dabura was in a realm of power similar to Cell and fought Super Saiyan Gohan without breaking a sweat. Dabura stated that Gohan was no match and he was only toying with him.

A full grown Trunks fought Dabura in the future timeline(4). Trunks fought him as a Super Saiyan and was losing the battle; Dabura being perfectly normal whereas Trunks was banged up and had scratches all over him and still losing. after Kibito died, Trunks turned into a Super Saiyan 2, and proceeded to beat up Dabura. Dabura stated he could hold his own, but never got the chance as Shin(supreme kai) used his magic to paralyze him allowing Trunks to get the kill.

So SS1 Gohan fought Dabura evenly, and SSJ1 Trunks was losing to him. Were both Daburas fighting with the same strength? Possible. Was Gohan actually a SSJ2? Debatable.

>>153790030
Thank you.

>>153790122
Gohan was SSJ2, Vegeta mentions for the second time that Teen Gohan SSJ2 was stronger.

>>153789901
No, he hasn't and it most likely isn't possible being that Mystic and SSJ shouldn't be stackable. Mystic is accessed very similarly to SSJ, however it's effects are much greater.

>>153788611
>>153788720

So it'll be a rehash of Piccolo vs Frost

>BET IT ALL ON THE KIKOHO

>>153790122
Future Trunks can can fight on part with Gods and SSJB.

Future Trunks ssj2 is as powerful as current arc Goku's ssj3.

>Future Trunks>Mystic Gohan

>>153790194
Not in my head canon

Why didn't they just make Toranksu go SSJ3 instead of giving him the SSJ 2: Now With Extra Anger form that doesn't really get explained at all?

>>153790251
>Future Trunks can can fight on part with Gods and SSJB.
Anime
>Future Trunks ssj2 is as powerful as current arc Goku's ssj3.
Manga

Dont mix the two. Manga trunks < mystic gohan

>>153790290
Because SSJ3 has a huge drawback in that it takes the physical and energy strain up to maximum and someone that just got the form fresh shouldn't be able to do much with it anyway. Either way it's an ass pull.

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Autism Trunks > Ultimate Gohan >(?) Black arc SS/SS2 Trunks > Majin Buu saga SS/SS2 Gohan > Base Trunks > Base Gohan

this sound bout right?

>>153790122
>Dabura stated that Gohan was no match and he was only toying with him
And >>153790191
>Gohan was SSJ2, Vegeta mentions for the second time that Teen Gohan SSJ2 was stronger.

There's your answer.

>>153790326
If he can go toe to toe with current SSJ3 Goku he is probably above Mystic.

>>153790429
>Mystic

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Reminder:

Future Gohan was the best designed Gohan.

I miss Black
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cdsnF59VkcA

>>153790428
Dabura also said that he could take on SSJ2 Trunks, Trunks got 1 hit on him after that and then Dabura got paralyzed by Shin. So is it possible Dabura could've taken on Trunks or no?

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>>153790584
but that is wrong

kid Gohan was the best Gohan

>>153790326
>Future Trunks ssj2 is as powerful as current arc Goku's ssj3.
>Manga

He did it both in anime and manga.

>>153790383
So you are saying that mystic Gohan is stronger than current ssj3 Goku?

>>153790568
What's wrong with mystic?
Unless you want me to use the japanese name and call him Cho Gohan

>>153790631
Yeah, whiny bitch Gohan sure was the coolest. The only well designed kid Gohan is SSJ2 Gohan.

>>153790632
No the first fight between goku and trunks ,goku one punched trunks at ssj3

>>153790665
Fanon shit

>>153790584
For sex. Sure.

For fight? No. He died face down in a pool of his own blood.

Why is future trunks so much best than Gohan?

>>153790429
The toe to toe happened in the manga where goku didnt absorb the power of ssg into his base. His current ssj3 there doesnt differ much. But in the anime trunks got beaten easily by goku ssj3 but he has ikari in the anime.
All in all
It goes anime trunks>mystic gohan>manga trunks (currently)

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>>153790727
I know but it sounds cool just like ultimate Gohan.

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>>153790664
I don't kmow what to think
hence the (?)

>>153790679
>Yeah, whiny bitch Gohan sure was the coolest.
but that is literally every Gohan?
>The only well designed kid Gohan is SSJ2 Gohan.
is this elaborate ruse?

>>153790584
Still sucking sayaka's cock Kevin-kun?

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>>153790679
>The only well designed kid Gohan is SSJ2 Gohan.

>>153790783
>SSJ3 Goku trace
get this shitty art out of here

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>>153790749
He fought two superior enemies with only one arm to ensure the future of the Earth and humanity.

Yet, you praise Future Trunks. The same Future Trunks who still has a hard on for Future Gohan. The same Future Trunks who let his world fall into ruin. The same Future Trunks who had his entire timeline/universe destroyed. The same Future Trunks that now has to live with duplicates of himself.

Yeahhhh, he sure was best.

>>153790787
You have to admit. SSJ2 Gohan was pretty good.

>>153790831
Is she still an Ally of Justice?

>>153790850
Oh, I didn't know you liked whiny bitch version instead.

>>153790584
Future Gohan never existed, thats just Future Yamcha pretending to be Gohan in his master plan to get Bulma back now that Vegeta is out of the picture by raising Trunks.

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>>153790749
Dunno.
Maybe because Trunks understood training and fighting is not bad if you are protecting the people you love (Mai)

>>153790890
>the new art style looks like Z

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>>153790876
Ok then. What about this? That's a cool looking Gohan.

>>153790880
I'm not saying that SS2 "teen" Gohan has a bad design
no
I am just saying that he has better designs but then again

>opinions

>>153788237
No? In Namek arc was estated that control your ki is a strange thing that namekians (and earthlings) do. Ginyu and Freeza also reveal being capable to power up too but they don't have the same ki control as the protags.

>>153790850
Why didn't Goku and everyone else attack Cell at that point?

>inb4 Gohan would've attacked them

je went sadistic yes, but not full psycho

>>153789021
Wasn't Mystic G stronger than Buutenks tho?

>>153790886
Wow

>>153790880
>The same Future Trunks who let his world fall into ruin

Because he couldn't change the past only move to another timeline. He was a child when the androids ducked up his world. That was Gohan fault for not saving it.

The best he could do at that point was train to get strong enough to defeat the androids and cell which he fucking did. Even if the training happened in another timeline.

>The same Future Trunks who had his entire timeline/universe destroyed. The same Future Trunks that now has to live with duplicates of himself.

Dude no one could have stopped Zeno from fucking the entire time line/ universe/ multiverse or whatever it was that he destroyed.

Shit it doesn't even seem like all 12 gods of destruction and their angels could stop that shit.

Because if they could they would stop it in this tournament

>>153791226
no

>>153787380
Piccolo could find some way to keep up with the saiyans at least.

>>153788510
Are you really implying isn't? If SS Gotenks is already SS3 tier (and he's according to Goku) and mystic Gohan is stronger than SS3 Gotenks, Gohan is about 8 times stronger than SS3 Goku (following official numbers). Even if Goku trained a year with Whis, become EIGHT times stronger is an enormous improvement and the plot so far doesn't require any sustancial improvement of Goku's base, since he's already strong enough using SSG or SSB

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TE AMO BILLSAMA!!!!!

How the hell is this tournament going to work given the scale? 120 fighters total, no way they're all going to be given equal representation. I'm expecting entire universes to just get eliminated off-screen.

Even with 10 fighters on Universe 7's team I'm wondering how they're all going to get moments to shine, though Majin Buu's win in the exhibition match was a good start. If Piccolo gets one win I'll be satisfied but after the last time he jobbed I'm not expecting much

>>153791226
nope

that was anime dubbism

>>153790787
I wonder.

How many people in this thread think mystic Gohan(buu saga) is as strong as current ssj3 goku.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3uE-ygMB7KY

>>153787958
>Ce n'est pas grave d'étre un analphabète.
Kys

>>153791269
>If SS Gotenks is already SS3 tier (and he's according to Goku)
Never stated by Goku, Goku only assumed Gotenks would be strong enough to beat Buu, not that he'd specifically go SSJ3 or specifically be SSJ3 tier.

>>153785562
Is that why Yamcha is still single?

>>153791189
Muh saiyan pride, which is funny because in the end everyone went against Cell, being Vegeta the only one that managed to distract him.

>>153791269
>Gohan is about 8 times stronger than SS3 Goku (following official numbers).
source?

>>153790890
>jobber eyes

>>153790251
You're criss-crossing anime and manga.
In the manga, Trunks is SSJ3-tier as an SSJ2, but hasn't ascended to godly heights.
In the anime, his SSJ2 gets fodder'd by SSJ3, and he has.

>>153791269
Didn't base vegeta ONE SHOT ssj3 gotenks?

wait, so Black WASN'T a SSJ2?

>>153786494
So there is a plothole in the manga now but because its /our/ guy nobody says anything but when toei does it everyone goes off like a bloody fucking cunt.
Well let me tell you manga aint shit

>>153787863
He picked up Gohan's body after he passed out, and spoke to him before he flew off to permanent retirement.

>>153791398
He's kinda going off assumptions and statements, but it makes rough sense.
SSJ Gotenks is SSJ3-tier
SSJ3 is an 8x power-boost from SSJ
So Gohan, being stronger than SSJ3 Gotenks, would be at least 8x SSJ3 Goku
It's rough but probably fair.

>>153791429
Yeah, but that was anime filler, and in the anime Goku/Vegeta both have SSG power in base. So he could do that, anyway.

>>153791269
>Even if Goku trained a year with Whis, become EIGHT times stronger is an enormous improvement and the plot so far doesn't require any sustancial improvement of Goku's base, since he's already strong enough using SSG or SSB

Goku has been training the ENTIRE time since buu. He doesn't train for plot anymore.

He KNOWS from experience that he can't rely on Gohan or Trunks/Goten to train enough to be powerful for any threat that may arise.

>not counting future Trunks since he is entirely different than the estimate of those guys and the ONLY saiyan that actually trains and fights like everything depends on him winning since there is no one else besides him and no dragon balls if he fucks up

>>153791429
If we take in mind BoG, SSJ3 Goku endured a few hits of the god of destruction, Mystic Gohan was K.O with a kick of Beerus and Gotenks was defeated by being spanked.