Marifags on suicide watch
>since she appeared in Jo, Ha and Q, I wondered what her role in the story would be, and when I asked the staff, they told me that it won’t be possible to really go further in one film, so they had to tie the main story up, and that Mari may have almost no screen time
https://wavemotioncannon.com/2017/02/21/the-current-status-of-gainax-interview-hiroyuki-yamaga-yoshiyuki-sadamoto-september-2016/
Also Gainax still dead
Mari a shit.
>movies went nowhere
>did nothing new
>only new character ends up being entirely pointless
>Anno continues to endlessly bitch and moan about otaku while cashing in off them off rehashes
>his critically-acclaimed work was a fucking Godzilla movie
sasuga, Gainax
Sigh. Why, Anno, why? Why did you need a full gay piano movie instead of something sensible? No, really, this was a joke, right?
>>153760243
AsukaXMarifags BTFO!
Marifags BTFO
Softpinkfags BTFO
Mangafags BTFO
Mari confirmed a shit
Sadamoto-san confirmed for bait master of the decade
Just fuck my shit up: the interview
who
>>153760650
>could have had Mari and Asuka interacting and developing since Shinji isn't around
>instead waste all the time on gays and piano montages
What the fuck are you doing, Anno?
>>153760243
Hey, but there's still 3.0+1.0, right?
Right?
FUCK ANNO AND FUCK JAPANESE PEOPLE
>>153761339
>but there's still 3.0+1.0, right?
>>153760243
Eva should've stayed at Gainax. Thanks to Khara, the original Evangelion is out of the shelves.
Eva was never good.
Literally the Jar Jar Binks of Eva, good ridance.
>>153761600
Wasting dubs on such blatant trolling is either genius or deplorable.
>>153761531
But Studio Khara is Gainax. "Studio Khara" is 95% Gainax animators and exists in the Gainax building.
>>153761679
What trolling? It was never good.
>>153761691
Khara is a husk. Trigger is the new Gainax.
THIS SOFT PINK BUBBLE WILL NEVER BE POPPED.
Anno likes to "borrow" ideas all the time and we've all seen the 1:1 comparisons between Evangelion and other anime.
I'm confident that all of what Sadamoto said will be included in the Rebuild canon. Even if he isn't aware.
>>153760243
The New Evagelions are shit. SHIT! Fuck Marifags, Fuck the new seriesfags, fuck them all. Original Evangelion is the only Neon Genesis Evangelion.
>>153761869
>this delusion
Asuka and Shinji will be spending alot of time with each other, write it down.
>>153761700
>double identical dubs
The man is right, Eva is trash
>>153760243
Loving every laugh.
>>153761934
My delusions are my head canon and it's indestructible.
>>153761279
Anno never liked Mari in the first place. She was a producer's request and the staff had no idea what to do with her on 2.0 so they basically gave up
>>153761985
See >>153762043
Asuka-chan is his favorite character, so there's no way he'll pair her up with a cancerous result of producer's babbling. I just have a feeling that people who support this crack ship are newfags who started with Rebuild.
>>153762187
Or you know just regular cancerous yurifags
Sadamanga <3
That's fine, Mari is only good for fucking in a portapotty with Asuka
>>153762344
>this many text emoticons
you must be from tumblr
>>153762393
>>153762432
Jesus. Two retards that actually thought I was being sincere. Are you the real newfags? Can you not tell blatant facetiousness when you see it?
Oh how /a/ has fallen.
To be honest I'd rather they take her out then try to shoehorn her into the movie if they can't think of a way for her not to be as utterly useless from a story perspective as she as in the previous Rebuilds. If all she's gonna be is trash as usual, push her to the side, focus on Shinji and Asuka and/or Rei, and tie this clusterfuck of a movie series in a nice little knot before Anno goes senile.
>>153762393
>>153762432
Played yourselves.
>>153762469
Marifags out
>>153760243
Literally who gives a shit about Mari
>>153762469
Get the fuck out already.
>>153762590
Stay triggered stealth tumblrite. I'm going to keep on loving my cute ship.
>>153762469
>hurr durr i was only pretending to be retarded
I'm afraid you wasn't my dude
>>153760243
I never watched the rebuilds and I never will.
>>153762667
They are about the same as the TV show but with more fan service
>>153762632
Says the anon that responded to my delicious smorgasbord of evidently irresistible bait-like treats.
>>153762737
Ironic shitposting is still shitposting my dude
It seems you are indeed pretty new
So this throws out the theory that Mari existed to make Asuka more popular than Rei.
>>153762977
>Ironic shitposting is still shitposting
And replying to bait is still replying to bait
>my dude
And repeating yourself is a sign of retardation
>It seems you are indeed pretty new
It seems you're assumptions are pretty wrong.
And I feel bad for you, needing to reply on the good ol' newfag meme
Memeposting in general makes me feel bad for you. Branch out anon, you can do it!
>>153762978
>Pointless panty shot
Whore
>>153763335
Try again!
>>153763166
What are you talking about my dude? I just stating a fact, you're pretty new and you probably should go back
Just reread your posts, it's obvious
>>153763335
>off by two
Damn nigga
Check mine
>>153763379
>you're pretty new
Oh lord, you're stuck in a loop. Poor thing. I'll tell you what, stop being a retard and go back to your little protection sphere, mommy re-padded the walls for you!
>>153763477
What do you mean my man? I don't understand you, this is not Reddit, stop using your native tongue
>>153761691
Gainax is Gainax, man.
>>153763199
Its a doujin, mate.
>1980s
>Anno is a talentless hack who can only ripoff older series
>1990s
>Anno is a talentless hack who can only ripoff older series
>00s & 10s
>Anno is still a talentless hack who is incapable of doing anything other than rehashing his only relevant work
>Somehow Gainax fans are surprised by this
>>153763533
LOOK! We both got dubs! That must make you feel so close to someone that isn't a retard. Aw good for you my little dude!
>>153760243
Mari was a mistake.
>>153764594
PRAISE RAMIEL, NOT THAT FROG
Mari was a pointless character, the only reason she existed was to be sold as merchandise. Nothing more.
>>153761934
do you think they will finally fuck?
>>153766869
>finally
Anon, Shinji's dick has been reshaped to fit Asuka's pussy like a glove, in multiple universes.
>>153760243
so she was just anno's way of trolling reifags and asukafags
knew it
>>153760243
the rebuilds were doomed the moment someone down the line decided an entire movie should be dedicated to fags and hysterically shouting middle ages women.
What else could follow that up but complete trash?
The only good thing about Q was the ending. Asuka, depressed Shinji and a Rei clone that's recovering her personality together at last.
>>153766990
>>153767055
Not even that. See >>153762043
>>153766990
Kek, Shinji's feminine penis couldn't pierce a plastic bag anon
Calling it.
>Rei, Shinji and Asuka end up back on the Wunder
>Rei gets into Unit-01 for whatever reason
>The memories of the old Rei mix with the current Rei or whatever
>Rei is pretty much restored back to the point before Near Third Impact
>>153760243
Not exactly surprised. Though this part was saddening.
>I guess it would be OVA, right?
>Yamaga: Even that I don’t know… OVA doesn’t exist anymore, does it?
>Sadamoto: OVA… I think they no longer use the appellation…
Woooooooow
So Mari will never be explained?
What the fuck, man
>>153772693
I always thought of her as just a reason for there to be another Eva on Misato's team. Just a blank character.
>>153767621
Reminder that Woody Allen has like four academy awards.
>4th movie starts
>Mari and Unit 08 nowhere to be found.
>Characters are informed she died when she fell from the sky during 4th Impact.
Alternatively, 4th movie will be another short timeskip of maybe a couple months.
Mari died during this and has no relevance to the rest of the movie.
>>153760243
please tell me again why people praise gainax to high heaven?
>>153773762
>please tell me again why people praise gainax to high heaven?
Not recently, no. Gainax had been technically dead for years. Gainax is like a popular garage band that had all its members left to pursuit separate careers, to varying levels of success. And the only remaining member of the band still called Gainax is the Drummer.
>>153772693
Mari is, and has always been, nothing more than a mild fanservice character, designed to sell merchandise. If you didn't realize that the instant you first saw her onscreen, then I don't know what to tell you, buddy.
This fucking franchise should have ended with TEOE. I didn't mind the visual updating/remastering they did with the first reboot or two, but now it's apparent they're really losing their touch.
>>153760243
>Toji was replaced for nothing
>>153772693
They did nothing with her in three movies; what else did you expect? Kaworu got a shitload of screen time in Q and yet he somehow managed to end up with less personality and relevance than he had in ep24.
The Rebuilds are terribly written and it just gets worse with every movie.
>>153774210
>nothing
I'm sure that merch money they got from desperate waifufags was worth it.
>>153774479
I suppose, thats's what Anno cares about anyway.
>>153774853
>Anno complains about how terrible Otaku are.
>Panders to them rather than try to create another unique work.
>>153760243
>Mari may have almost no screen time
Hell fucking yes.
>>153760650
>i-it's all going to be explained, just you wait!
Theoryfags and Rebuild defense force on suicide watch.
>>153760650
So why'd he make her a lesbian?
>that fags spamming homoshit without argument, ebcause muh shipping
>that fags thinking headcanon=oficial state
>Kaworufag spamming every eva thread btfo in 3.33
>Desperate Mari shipping fag btfo in interview
MARIFAGS AND KAWORUFAGS STATUS: ERADICATED
>>153760243
It's almost as if adding a character on a total whim without any forethought is a bad idea.
>homo fags forcing their shipping in every eva thread
>Homo fags thinking that headcanon = oficial statement
>All BTFO in interview
>Kaworufag shitposting in every eva thread with homolust btfo in 3.33
>Marifag forcing lesbian shipping in every eva thread btfo in interview
SHIPPING HOMOFAGS STATUS: ERADICATED
I want to erase Mari from existence with my dick
>>153761531
>out of the shelves
What? I've never heard that expression before, and Google doesn't help. Do you mean it's off shelves, like it's no longer available for purchase? Because that's wrong.
>>153766869
Asuka is referred as Anno as an old woman and Shinji is now a middle school kid. At least that's he told the VAs. To portray Asuka as an old, bitter mercenary and Shinji as the only 'child'.
She's literally mimicking Misato in your picture. She's going to get shot or blow up saving him. Misato is now Gendo, the father figure he wants the approval of. Gendo is SEELE.
>>153772693
Sadamoto clarifies he has nothing to do with the movies besides character design (though this contradicts his interview in the complete works of 2.0 which he had a say about the script).
>>153777617
So what are Rei and Kaworu? His personal fucktoys?
>>153774340
All characters are shallow. Literally because the person who wrote the characterization isn't the main scriptwriter of this mess. That's Satsukawa, I think, I forgot. He was responsible for most fleshing out of every character who isn't Shinji having a breakdown (that was Anno's doing).
>>153777617
>old, bitter mercenary
>still acts like a hysterical kid on her period
He should've done a better job with her characterization if he wants us to believe that.
>>153777697
Yeah, they have different writers for Rebuild.
People don't seem to realize Anno doesn't personally write the scenes themselves. He just supervises everything.
Most of the dialogue and scenes, even in the original NGE were done by Satsukawa and other writers. And they have little to no involvement in Rebuild.
>>153777691
I don't think they changed much. Weren't they always fuck toys and Freudian implications? Rei helps Shinji to try to connect first but kind of fucks it up, and Kaworu gives Shinji what he needs the most in a dark time, then fuck off leaving him traumatized (love in NGE, hope in Rebuild).
But Gendo becoming the big bad instead of SEELE (euthanized) is fairly obvious with his new Visor Keikaku Villain characterization. Misato turns into Gendo of NGE, the distant and torn parental figure Shinji desperately craves approval of (he didn't give a shit about her approval in 2.0, 1.0 or the original, but suddenly she kicked Gendo as his new daddy) with dark shades of distance and aloofness, and now Asuka is the Misato-character but she's more a bitchy than a drunk oneesan.
>>153777261
It's even better because she was connected to background that also won't be resolved. Like solving for Meow would need to explain IPEA and why SEELE aren't in charge and why they're computers.
>>153777261
probably made Gainax fat stacks on doll sales tho
>>153777767
Wrong here. Anno writes the first draft for the movies, then he changes it with the input of his 'dream team' (usually Higashide, etc). In the NGE show, more than half of the scripts were by Satsukawa and then Anno made the changes he wanted or felt pressured to do. There are episodes written by Anno, like the one Shinji is LCL and the last two, but those are mindfuck ones, as I say. No different than what he did in 3.0, you know, but 3.0 didn't have the previous juicy set up because he sanitize his franchise (he said he axed and removed all adult/sexual themes, by the way. Do you see Misato and Kaji holding hands? I don't think so).
EoE was by him and that Asukafag I forgot his name, but EoE would have been absolute incongruent shit if it didn't piggie ride the development that Satsukawa established in the show. Satsukawa was 100% responsible for the adult themes, character's relationship. Misato and Kaji tensed bittersweet scenes, Asuka and Shinji kiss and UST, Kaworu and Shinji homoeroticism. Those were all Satsukawa. He was the 'atmosphere' to go man. He put two characters in a room, any characters, and sparks flew.
>>153777707
I never said he wasn't a hack. That's what he told Yuko Asuka was now.
>>153777948
So Satsukawa didn't write for Q?
I'm surprised, he seemed to enjoy writing the Kaworu/Shinji scenes in NGE a lot.
>>153777819
>he just supervises everything
So he's literally Gendo?
>>153777859
Her stuff doesn't get sold out as much as Asuka's, Rei's or Kaworu's. From 2.0 material, they aimed to make a female Kaworu, thinking they can replicate his success from NGE, but ended up giving her more screentime in 2.0 and not even getting as 10% as the intended result.
>>153778016
Yeah, the point when she was most popularity was when she had a cameo at the end of the 1.0 in the teaser scene.
When she actually made her debut no one was really interested in her anymore.
>>153760402
It was hardly a full movie, the piano scene was barely 10 minutes
>>153778004
Satsukawa is only a guest-consult scriptwriter for all the Rebuild. He's not a main anything. Enokido, Higashide, Tsurumaki, the producer, Anno's husbando whose name escapes me (not Utena director, his Khara/Gainax one) and Anno are the main 'scriptwriters'. Anno writes the draft. Look at the results.
This is why the Rebuilds are boring as fuck.
>>153760347
>>153761389
>3. fucking 33 movie
>Shinji fucking minding his own business with his Rei
>pull him out of fucking space 14 fucking years later
>Hey, we're all going to be pissy about that one thing you did and not explain shit to you
>Oh shit don't betray us qqqqq
>Confident gay piano faggot
>lets go get them spears
>oops I'm not confident anymore and won't do anything because that spear is weird
>lol third.33 impact shinji
what did anyone fucking expect.
>>153778053
It's just doesn't feel like they can't top what they did with NGE. There can only be one Eva 01 (and Eva 13 isn't improving it), Rei was fine without making her a waifubait, Asuka was fine without trying to make her nicer, trying to push a girl and thinking she'll be the new Kaworu because she's hot and 'mysterious' is clearly forgetting why Kaworu was popular and had a huge impact in the first place.
>>153778076
I always thought Anno's talent was with directing, not writing.
In my opinion his best works like Love & Pop were adaptations, he already had a story and plot laid out for him so he could focus his skills on the direction.
It's a shame Satsukawa doesn't get the credit he deserves for what he put into NGE. I hope he's gotten plenty of work in other projects, he's got a lot of talent.
>>153778144
I agree that Anno is a fantastic director, so is Tsurumaki (he directed the Asuka's fight in EoE), but he falls short to write characters. He can write a complex psychological analysis/introspection, but he doesn't write them organically interacting each other to get us hooked.
>>153778279
Writing is a crutch for directors who can't capture the audience on visuals, spectacle and cinematography
>>153778144
Pretty much. He can frame shots and do composition better than perhaps any TV anime director, but his character writing is George Lucas-tier.
>>153778279
Yes, it's evident in the episodes where Anno was the main writer.
There's just a lot of characters infodumping about their thoughts and the plot to the screen.
The visuals may be interested, but that's not enough to keep the viewer satisfied. It's my main complaint with 25/26 as well.
>>153778324
But a truly great work excels in both. You can't capture the audience with just one over the other.
>>153778388
That's why a director is supposed to direct and a writer is supposed to write, obviously both are important but the director's main concern should be directing
It's better to have a bad writer than a bad director
That said I actually really liked 25/26 because of how well directed they were and how creative the creators got and the Rebuilds because now that Anno had a big budget his talent could really shine
>>153761869
is she fanning her fart?
>>153760243
>Mari may have almost no screen time
Too bad, sheis the best girl, not that she is good or anything, is just that both Asuka and Rei are unbearable
>>153778477
If we're just talking about directing, then yes, the Rebuilds are absolutely superb. Even 3.0.
Actually I'd say 3.0 features the most stellar directing of the three movies.
But as far as the plot and characters are considered, it's little more than an insult to the Evangelion series.
If it didn't have the Evangelion label or connection to the franchise, I'm sure it would be hailed as fantastic by everyone including /a/.
>>153778556
I feel it's not fair to judge the writing and story of an unfinished work, and Rebuild isn't finished yet
The main complaints eventually all boil down to "muh gay piano" anyway which makes criticism hard to take seriously
I don't see how it's insulting
>>153778628
>I feel it's not fair to judge the writing and story of an unfinished work, and Rebuild isn't finished yet
Hey, it's the retard who couldn't tell that VVV and AZ were garbage until the shows were done airing.
>>153778628
Anon, I think it's time to accept a movie of 90 minutes won't be able to fix what's been done.
And no, there are complaints for other matters as well as for the first two movies.
>>153778628
It's hard to judge when it's been all but confirmed that Anno made it to make some dough, not to send a legitimate message.
Evangelion ended perfectly, to add more to the franchise sullies the meaning and significance of the original, I feel.
And I say this as someone who enjoyed the gay piano. Sure, Rebuild may be a fun and entertaining series of flicks, but it has no real purpose behind it. And that in itself makes it hard to praise and judge positively.
>>153771566
Op here
Yeah that really made sad
>>153760243
>No one is talking about the Top wo nerae announcement
Evafags are disgusting, kill yourselves.
>>153779223
This
>>153777697
Where's your info for this? This sounds exactly like people shitting on Kojima and claiming Fukushima was responsible for the early games being good. In other words it sounds like hearsay based solely on circumstantial evidence and comparing credits.
>>153760243
Jesus Christ, that interview was depressing.
>>153778628
Even a 3-hour 10/10 movie wouldn't be able to save three movies of shit plotting, nonexistent characterization, and garbage script. Try to recall a single dialogue scene with memorable lines and insightful characterization in Rebuild. Hint: there isn't any.
>>153779510
Don't listen to that fujo, m8
They're still salty as hell about the Gainax/Khara Eva rights dispute
>>153760243
Huh? Who cares about Mari? She was an obvious waifu-bait from the very beginning.
>>153779223
It's not even an announcement, he's just thinking of doing it.
>>153777948
>he sanitize his franchise (he said he axed and removed all adult/sexual themes
But why would he do so? I always thought that was one of the most appealing parts in NGE and EoE gave the series some spice and life.
That's really bad news if you're correct.