Is 1080p worth it?

>>153755308
in case of Hyouka, definitely

Worth what?

On public trackers it downloads faster so yes.

>>153755308
Depends on the show.

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>>153755308
For her yes.

For any recent kyoani show yes

>>153755308
Not until they start producing in 1920x1080.

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>>153755308
Depends on how old the show is and if it's an upscale or not, I'd say

>>153755585
How clueless could you be?

https://anibin.blogspot.ca/

This website estimates the lineart resolution of every new airing show. If this website lists a show as being "1280+" (for horizontal resolution), then yes, downloading the 1080p version of that show is worth it.
Note: KyoAni's use of After Effects fucks up anibin's estimate methodology, so their estimates for KyoAni shows are incorrect. All KyoAni productions at least as far back as Chuu2 have been full 1080p.

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>>153755802
You have no idea.
>>153755750
Nice vlc/madvr upscaling :^)

>>153755834
Don't use emoticons on /a/.

>>153755750
What about NAOKI-Raws?

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>>153755844
Sorry, /g/ made me do it.

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>>153755585
And drawing at 60 fps, instead of the current 8-12. I think there were only 6 shows in the entire year of 2016 above 800p, and half of that was only the OP.

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>>153755815
Screenshot from 1080p Horriblesubs release of Maid Dragon. It's pretty clearly full 1080p and not an upscale. Especially note the eyelash detail.
https://boards.fireden.net/a/thread/152416080/#152416080 <== list of shows this season that are >720p.

Anyome else unable to watch sub- 720p shows?
It just looks so bad.

>>153755890
>I think there were only 6 shows in the entire year of 2016 above 800p
That can't be correct. There's usually more than 6 shows per season well above 800p.

If you care that much you should wait for the BD

>>153755975
Enjoy missing out on literally most of what anime has to offer. Hell, even Eva was only SD until recently.

>>153755890
>>153755982
According to anibin, 21 out of 49 shows last season were >800p. Congratulations, >>153755890 you are an idiot.

Regarding Horriblesubs in particular, even if a show is only listed as 720p on anibin and even if you possess a 720p display, you are still going to get better visuals by downloading and playing the 1080p file with proper MadVR/mpv downscaling if your computer can do so without frame loss. Why?

Anime studios distribute their anime via HDCAM/HDCAM-SR. Crunchyroll/Funimation/etc. receive the anime via these formats which are >720p formats. This means that ALL 720p HORRIBLESUBS FILES ARE LITERALLY DOWNSCALES. Here's the important part: CRUNCHYROLL AND ESPECIALLY FUNIMATION DO NOT KNOW HOW TO DOWNSCALE PROPERLY. Their 720p files are laden with artifacts stemming from poor downscaling methods, and to make things worse their 720p files have terrible bitrates compared to the 1080p files, compounding the artifacting issue.

It is baffling to me when I look at download numbers on nyaa and the Horriblesubs 720p version of any show, even ones in full 1080p like Maid Dragon, has far more downloads than the 1080p show. Stop downloading Horriblesubs 720p files. They're bad downscales with shitty birates.

>>153756295
>720p version has far more downloads than the 1080p show.
People probably cant tell the difference and if you live in rural american and have shit internet you take the 50% smaller download that looks the same.

>>153756143
It's not as simple as that.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=20PwaJYcnuk

>>153756295
SIZE MATTERS
that being said, i usually download at 720 and try to avoid HS, reasons for that is my internet is shitty and i tend to save the shows so space is important, for good shows with good reviews and visual i get the 1080

>>153756474
>i tend to save the shows
>archiving fucking Horriblesubs
You delete HS downloads after watching them and archive BD rips. Hard drive space should not be an issue with regards to Horriblesubs downloads. Shitty internet I can understand. Hard drive space is not an issue here.

>>153756474
>good reviews
Can't you form your own opinion?

>>153756550
One first needs to watch the show in order to do that.

>>153756474
>and try to avoid HS
Their subs are hit and miss but the HS 1080p release of most shows is going to be the best visual release of the show until the BDs, including 720p fansubs from TV sources, which are often somehow even worse than 720p HS visually.
Anyways, archiving HS or fansubbed TV rips is retarded. BD rips are for archiving.

>>153756550
>Decide to build a house
>Try to figure out which contractor to get
>Lol dont read other peoples reviews about them, just form your own opinion

>>153756610
>other peoples reviews
>other peoples
From what I can tell, most review sites can actually be paid to remove "harmful" reviews. The best reviews are usually written by staff members.

>>153756600
I've found that if they're not blue on nyaa fansubs usually aren't any better than HS.

>>153756678
Blue means nothing.
It's literally the cartel playing favorites.

>>153756678
>blue meme subs
>good

>>153756610
>watching anime equals building a house
Are you actually retarded or a child?

>>153756529
>>153756600
i do save the BDrips but sometimes i'm lazy too look back after an year for something and just archieve whatever, i only avoid doing this by watching the show several months after it aired my backlog is yuuuge
>>153756550
>>153756610
fuck off niggers, by reviews i mean /a/ reviews

Even if the show was made in 720p in Japan, 1080p releases on Nyaa typically have more bitrate even though they're just upscaled from 720p.

So in the end, they look better.

>>153756810
>I merely pretended
Kill yourself.

>>153756678
>trusting the meme cartel

>>153756802
Why not both?

>>153756764
Please. Conspiracy theories hold more weight when there's actually money involved. Nobody's getting paid off here. Blue just means someone at nyaa who has a solid grasp of both Japanese and English reviewed the subs and found the translation to be good.

>>153756859
>Blue just means someone at nyaa sucked off and swallowed herkz's cum

>>153756859
>someone at nyaa
Exactly.
Who are you more likely to praise? Your friends or total strangers?

>>153756859
>Blue just means someone at nyaa who has a solid grasp of both Japanese and English reviewed the subs and found the translation to be good.

Fucking oishii, throw me a hella homer will you?

>>153756843
no you

>>153756438
It literally is.

I always dl 1080p. Even if they're just upscales, they still look better.

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I only notice the difference when they are side by side with 720p.
I still download 1080, it's gonna be deleted anyway, so why not have it look a little better, even if not by much?

For archiving, that has to be considered. But those are the BDs anyway.

I download anime in 1920x1440.

>>153756295
I can't see a difference in mpv between 720p screenshots and 1080p downscaled to 720, so just watch 720. Also, no one is archiving CR rips if they can help it, so no point bothering for airing shows.

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>>153757056
>I can't see a difference in mpv
No wonder you're using mpv, instead of MadVR, which produces objectively superior visuals these days.

I only watch 480 because the minor difference between 480 and 1080 isn't worth the 400 extra megabytes and 5 more minutes.

>>153757234
Fuck off with your meme oil painting filters, no wonder why you also like kyoanus shit.

>>153757333
No, really. MadVR is better. Deal with it.
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/198486

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>>153757234
Bullshit it does. And spot the difference: you can't, because all CR rips are shit, so might as well go with 720.

>>153755308
Storage is cheap and so is internet, why not?

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>>153757376

>>153755308
If you want to watch fullscreen on a 1080p+ display, yes.

Try downloading 720p and upscaling that vs flat out 1080p, the latter will simply look better.

>>153757376
>>153757408
720p version is zoomed in.

>>153757408
>>153757376
>1280x720
If you're going to be playing them on a 720p screen then obviously there's no point in downloading 1080p

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>>153757450
It's what? I downscaled the 1080 to 720. No difference. Same with upscaling the 720: minor banding artifacts (e.g. back of neck), but not noticeable during playback.

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>>153757604

>>153757604
>It's what?
It's zoomed in. Compare the screenshots carefully.

>>153757604
>>153757628
1080p is notably sharper in this comparison.

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>>153755308
>Is 1080p worth it?

No my dude, 24 fps and 720p is enough.

>>153757367
>the tip of Kanna's horn sticking up in the air
Whoa. MadVR is a LOT better at upscaling.

>>153757592
The point is the quality is nearly identical. And the reason for this is partly due to 1080 being bitrate starved; 1080 has 2.25 times the amount of pixels as 720, but the 1080 encodes aren't even a third bigger than 720. The bits/pixel for 1080 CR rips is too low to warrant worrying about quality, as the quality is plain shit all around.

>>153757628 looks significantly better than >>153757604

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>>153757604
>>153757628
>attempt to prove that there's no reason to download 1080p files
>actually end up proving that the 1080p files are significantly sharper in appearance
People blowing themselves the fuck out are funny.

>>153757638
My bad, that's because the screenshots aren't at identical frames (393ms, vs 433ms). But that's not the point - the point is the 720 isn't somehow horrendous in comparison to the 1080.

>>153757897
Post identical frames. Also, was Joker Game a CR or Funi rip? The poor downscale thing is a bigger issue with Funi rips.

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That depends entirely on your PC setup, with 720p and any decent renderer like madvr you will be upscaling to 1440p and then downscaling to 1080p which will use more resources than playing native 1080p.


If you have the hardware (Intel + Nvidia) and don't want to download 1080p files because the huge file size you can use madvr's NGU image doubler with 720p and under and get amazing results as long as you're using good encodes. Even Nnedi3 is about to be replaced by NGU Pixelart for low bitrate full of artifacts bad encodes.

I have a 4690K + GTX970 and because my PC is always running media 24/7 and I still want to use my PC to play videogames or other stuff yet I want to take advantage of madvr algorithms I have different profiles for 1080p, 720p and SD.

For SD content I use NGU Pixelart "Medium" for Image Upscaling and Jinc AR with SuperRes 4 for Chroma Upscaling
720P, NGU Pixelart "Low" and Jinc AR with SuperRest 2 Chroma.
1080p, I just use Jinc AR for image upscaling and Jinc AR SuperRes 2 for Chroma.

All 3 configurations use the same or very close amount of resources so I don't have to worry about some files hogging my hardware when I'm doing something.


if (srcWidth > 1280) "1080p"
else if (srcWidth <= 1280) and (srcHeight > 720) "1080p"

else if (srcWidth > 960) and (srcWidth <= 1280) "720p"
else if (srcWidth <= 960) and ((srcHeight > 540) and (srcHeight <= 720)) "720p"

else if (srcWidth <= 960) and (srcHeight <= 540) "SD"

>>153757660
>>153757823
>notably
>significantly
Exaggerating a little, no? Like I said, I don't see it in motion. And compare the BD, and even the 1080p CR rips look terrible.

>>153758009
http://diff.pics/delIo1okgxzB/1 comparison Daiz posted a while back illustrating Funi's terrible downscaling.

>>153758029
This is assuming you have a 1080p monitor*

>>153758035
>Exaggerating a little, no?
I don't see how "notably" is an exaggeration.

For Movies and OVA's less than 10 episodes, yes.

Otherwise not really

>>153758035
It's not an exaggeration. My eyes actually work, and yes, I would see that shit in motion. I have 20/10 vision and watch anime on a 32" 1080p display a couple feet from my face.

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>>153757367
Mpc hc does this shit with subtitles sometimes.
I guess any player is better than it currently.

>>153756295
>CRUNCHYROLL AND ESPECIALLY FUNIMATION DO NOT KNOW HOW TO DOWNSCALE PROPERLY. Their 720p files are laden with artifacts stemming from poor downscaling methods, and to make things worse their 720p files have terrible bitrates compared to the 1080p files, compounding the artifacting issue.
You know, if they're downloading HS, they probably don't give a shit about any of that.

I make sure to archive with quality groups like commie and gg.

>>153758199
I've never had an issue like that in many years of watching subbed anime with MPC-HC. Are you using xysubfilter like you should be?
>>153758203
Ahahahahaha. Oh wow. You're a funny guy.

>>153758199
>Mpc hc does this shit with subtitles sometimes.
I've never seen that.
I've seen other fuck-ups, like the cover-ups for Jap-text not working properly at times, but I figure it's just incompetent groups not setting them up right.

>>153758035
It's a tad sharper, that's undeniable. If you want the extra bit of quality it makes sense to go for the 1080p version, especially if bandwidth and storage space aren't an issue, although it's not as big as people claim it to be.
In some cases the difference between the two versions is much stronger than what you posted (the 1080p one still looks a little bit blurry).

>>153758199
Did you, by any chance, use CCCP or KCP to install MPC? I have found through experience that codec packs like these cause problems in MPC-HC that don't exist with manual MPC-HC/MadVR/xysubfilter installation.
I haven't seen a subs issue like that with MPC-HC and this is the first time I've ever seen anyone post about it.

>>153758268
https://anibin.blogspot.com/2016/04/1_39.html
Joker Game is ~864p. Yeah, the difference is going to be a lot bigger with a full 1080p production like KyoAni shows.

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>>153755308
Only BD. Also FLAC.

>>153758296
He probably has "move subtitles to the bottom of the screen/window" option enabled IF using madvr.
I

>>153755308

Did I get slapped back to 2006?

>>153758203
>I make sure to archive with quality groups like commie and gg.
I'm going to ignore this obvious joke.
>You know, if they're downloading HS, they probably don't give a shit about any of that.
Not necessarily true. The HS 1080p release of new shows is quite often the visually superior release available until BDs are ripped and released. IIRC Daiz has used HS 1080p video for Underwater releases. Those who pay close attention to video quality know that HS 1080p files usually look pretty damn great in a media player with debanding.

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>>153755308

>mfw bongland
>mfw i received a cease and desist letter from my ISP over my torrenting

Kissanime can't be bad, watermarks don't bother me.

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>>153758296
I reinstalled and it went to pic related
So yeah.

>>153758370
>FLAC
Literal bloat. If you need quality source for whatever, then you should download the audio itself instead of forcing everyone who downloads the encodes to have bloat.

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>>153758411
If only there was chat software utilizing an ancient application layer protocol which could download anime without putting your IP on a public tracker.
If only the group that releases almost every new show the fastest had its own chat channel through which you could download these releases at over 20 MB/sec.

>>153758443

>>153758380 was prolly the issue and reinstalling prolly unchecked that.

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>>153758503
Stop fantasizing. This isn't your Japanese cartoons.

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>>153758411
Oh god what? Is that possible?
Heatenings

>>153758503

You don't get it, the GCHQ have gained the power to trawl through computers unnoticed. They caught me through a backdoor.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Investigatory_Powers_Act_2016

>>153758503
>XD
Fuck off.

Everyone always says that the 1080p HS rip is the best way to go, but that doesn't apply to fansubs, correct, only when talking about 720p vs 1080 CR rips? Since whatever remaining groups there are all put out 720p releases until the BDs, I would assume the TV sources they're using are better then the upscale?

It's been ten years since I first heard of 480p, 720p, upscaling and so on and I still have no fucking idea what that means. I just download the version with the highest number of "p" and assume it's the best looking version.

>>153758618
>the TV sources they're using
Half the time they're using CR.

>>153758593
>They caught me through a backdoor.
Did the letter actually say that or are you just guessing? You probably got caught because you put your IP address on a public torrent tracker.
>>153758594
This nigga gets it.

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>>153758669

>>153758669
Must suck being mentally retarded for over 10 years.

>>153758688

So what? Do you use Tor while torrenting or some shit?

>>153758618
Fansubbers are often literally retarded for not using 1080p sources when 1080p sources of shows with >720p content are available. There's some strange meme dogma about fansubbers releasing in 720p that's been strangely difficult to break, but more fansubbers should be releasing in 1080p than there are currently.

>>153758747
>Tor
>torrenting
Moron.

IRC isn't torrenting. It's fundamentally different.

>>153755815
>Note: KyoAni's use of After Effects fucks up anibin's estimate methodology, so their estimates for KyoAni shows are incorrect. All KyoAni productions at least as far back as Chuu2 have been full 1080p.
This is not a problem anymore.

>>153758770
Stop telling people about my sekrit download club I don't want to go back to the days of waiting in a queue to get sent the files

>>153758503
What software is that?

>>153758747

>>153758503 was VERY strongly hinting to you how to download new anime releases very quickly after release at often very high download speeds.

>>153758770

Shut the fuck up, now thanks to the fuck-ups in parliament if you get caught three times torrenting you'll be arrested and put before a court for piracy.

Yes, this is the country I live in. Maximum sentence as of 2017 is 10 years and an unlimited fine.

>>153758796
anibin has Maid Dragon listed as 955.5p. It's clearly fully 1080p to anyone with working eyes. See >>153755904 It's still a problem.

>>153758868
Stop torrenting without a vpn you retard

>>153758868
>Shut the fuck up
No, you read my fucking post. Are you stupid?

>>153758868
Then move country

>>153758868
What about legally torrenting?

>>153758029
>That depends entirely on your PC setup
No, it depends entirely on what the show was mastered in.

>>153758887
Well it was written that this is not an issue anymore some time back.

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Wait a second!
Are you saying all of you are pirating anime and not buying it and supporting the creators?
I didn't know this place was full of criminals!

>>153758868
Where do you live?

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It's pretty easy to tell when a show is meant to be watched in 1080. If you think it isn't easy, your eyes are so shit that you should just watch in 360p and save space.

>>153758986
>Are you saying all of you are pirating anime and not buying it and supporting the creators?
Who said those two things are mutually exclusive?

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>>153758900

I did and I don't talk to dickheads.

>>153758893

VPN services are being pushed around by the GCHQ as they demand that backdoors be created for security officials and such. It's apparently to investigate "aberrational behaviour online".

>>153758917

I won't abandon my home.

>>153758926

The lines between something illegal and legal in the UK online now are so blurred that they'll say you're pirating yet it's a series that isn't even available in the UK and probably won't be.

>>153758994

The UK.

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>>153758986
>funi and Cr drag you to court
>studios as well as committees on jury
>plead not guilty
>judge orders you to compensate for each anime image saved on your computer
>you're to pay $1000 for each image

>>153759063
Do you understand how torrenting and busting someone while he torrents works? I suggest you go read up on it. No one will bust your Anglo ass for downloading a show that is airing unless it is licensed in the UK. Is there a CR like distributor in the UK? If not you there is nothing to worry about.

>>153758868
I know there are other options beside torrenting, but if governments start cracking down hard on piracy, getting old anime and all weeb shit in general will be hell.
The thought of it almost puts me off studying Japanese.

>>153758928
If that were the case why not just image double everything up to 4K and then downscale down.

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>>153759005
>[Asenshi]
Yes, and fansubbers release in 720+ as needed. Not all shows deserve it. Pic related, was mastered in 480 or something, yet retards ITT would download 1080

>>153758677

That's unfortunate, knew that if they couldn't find any other raws they would resort CR/HS rips, but assumed that if they could, they would use whatever better alternative they could find.

>>153758755
So you would say that for any show that is >720p, it would be better to use the 1080p HS version rather than a fansubbed one, purely on visuals? I've always used HS as an absolute last-resort, preferred fan-subs if at all possible, but if the video truly is better, then maybe it would be worth looking into perhaps ripping the subs and applying them over HS file.

>>153758698
>>153758702
It's not that I'm retarded, it's just that every time I opened the Wikipedia page to learn about that stuff I got bored quickly.
One day I will, maybe.

>>153759316
The terms are 90% self-descriptive (outside of knowing the English language). Not being able to understand them suggests you have actual brain damage.

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illiterate newfag here.

how does one torrent...the right way?

>>153759370
Live in a non-totalitarian society
And thats it.

>>153759370
magnet:?xt=urn:btih:C268314E2889D98D7DF79B93EEF6A9DBF8F6870A&tr=http%3A%2F%2Fbt4.t-ru.org%2Fann%3Fmagnet&dn=(Blues%20%7C%20Soul)%20Maurice%20Davis%20-%20The%20Right%20Way%20-%202004%2C%20MP3%2C%20320%20kbps

>>153759370
Use a VPN or this >>153759419

>>153759363
I have a 150 IQ so I'm either to intelligent to understand or they're not really self-descriptive.

>>153759673
>Stating your IQ
This never helps

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>>153759673
>I have a 150 IQ
>to intelligent

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>>153759673
Well done, you just killed the thread

>>153758824
Check out the Horriblesubs page.

>>153759673
tfw to intelligent to read

>>153759197
>and fansubbers release in 720+ as needed.
They really don't do so nearly enough.

>>153759451
Now my computer is kill, but it was pretty fun.

>>153759261
>So you would say that for any show that is >720p, it would be better to use the 1080p HS version rather than a fansubbed one, purely on visuals?
Yes.
>then maybe it would be worth looking into perhaps ripping the subs and applying them over HS file.
If you have a legitimate beef with the HS subs (they're not always as bad as Gabriel Dropout's, I swear) then yeah, that's a good option. I used to buy into the HS bad fansubs good meme too, but over time I've discovered it's usually not true. Most HS subs aren't Gabriel Dropout bad.

Is there a good MPC equivalent for Mac?

>>153760713
mpv
It's not as good as MPC-HC + MadVR but it's close.

>>153760781
I have been using that but its not great, is there add-ons to improve it?

>>153760586
Not so much a specific beef, but I do remember back when CR and funi were just getting started, how absolute dog-shit their subs were. Plus, they didn't and still don't have kara, don't know if they even bother type-setting anything, etc. I've muxed official scripts before with other raws in cases where the official video was just too bad to watch, and again, use them if that's all there is, so it's not like I swore them off, but honestly, just been using fan-subs for so long, years and years, even edited scripts here and there, that I prefer them even if the official subs aren't terrible. But that was also always under the assumption that because the official companies didn't know how to encode, up/down scale, the video from fansubbers was also better. If that's not the case, then it may be worth splicing them together.

>>153760889
If a show is listed as 1280+ on anibin the 1080p Horriblesubs release will be visually superior to any 720p fansubs release.
There's other cases when HS's video will be better, too. Some channels (Tokyo MX comes to mind) have such shitty bitrates that even if the show's only 720p on anibin the HS files will still look better.
If a show's listed as 720p on anibin, download a both a good fansub and the HS file for episode 1 and compare them yourself.

>>153759419
>tfw living in totalitarian society but my goverment gives a fuck about pirated

>>153758478
How is it bloat? You look out for losing quality from upscaling 720p, but don't worry about it when it comes to audio?

>>153761141
Several blind test studies show that people cannot reliably discern the difference between FLAC audio and 192 kbps mp3 audio, even with expensive audio reproduction equipment.

>>153761059
Yeah, sounds like good advice. Will probably do that from now on, mux subs for anything I decide to use HS for.

>>153761141
>downloads flac without even knowing what it is
Are you this guy? >>153758669

>>153761417
Here is a comparison between horriblesubs 720p and raw 1080p.
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/201336

This thread was a gold mine, thanks anons.

>>153762370
What is being used to upscale the 720p there? What settings?

720 still looks better to me imo

http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/201340

i do use madVR

>>153762900
MadVR with NGU high on chroma and luma, sharp edges on 1.0, downscaling DXVA2 because I get dropped frames when I use any other on 10bit video

>>153763179
>MadVR with NGU high
Figured as much. NGU is REALLY FUCKING GOOD.

>>153762370
>>153763179
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/197636
Comparison between HS 720p upscaled to 1080p with NGU high and HS 1080p. The head of the dude in the purple shirt on the right is notably sharper in the 1080p one.
I don't see much of a difference >>153762370
I'm assuming this means the HS 1080p file has better quality than the 1080p raw.

>>153763968
Yup, but it has some issues. It really doesn't do well with certain types of images or aliasing and can fail hard compared to say NNEDI3 or even super-xbr, especially when quadrupling.

madshi has been posting test builds of madVR with new versions of NGU for those types of situations.

>>153764228
Yeah, I've seen some examples of NGU fails when quadrupling/upscaling 480p. It's been absolutely brilliant for me upscaling 720p to 1080p, though. It has blown NNEDI3, super-xbr, Jinc, ewa_lanczossharp, etc. completely out of the water in every 720p=>1080p test I've thrown at it.

>>153764288
Yeah, 480p > 2160p on certain images had the most obvious issues. 720p > 1080p isn't that big a step and I'm not surprised it does really well, especially with good quality sources. I use NGU for 1080p > 2160p upscaling, works very well there too.

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>>153755308
What the fuck are you thinking, you bumbling retard?

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>>153765425

>>153756167
>According to anibin
You mean that guy who runs a blog with no creditable sources at all?

>>153765740
anibin posts its resolution estimate methodology on its website. It's up to you to determine whether it's a credible methodology or not. Do you have expertise in areas such as estimating the resolution of lineart? If so, care to share your analysis of anibin's methodology?

>>153756370
You might as well be streaming at that point if you're going to compromise on quality like that. Why bother wasting any HDD space

>>153762370
Yeah, looks pretty good, been using NGU very high myself.

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>>153759673
>150 IQ
>to intelligent

>>153759673
hehehehehehehehehehehehehehehe

>>153755890
Eyes can only see 30fps so no point

Anything above 720p is the same

>>153770341
this better be ironic shitposting

How do I get NGU? My madvr settings don't have it.

>>153757376
>>153757408
>1280x720
You just don't get it.

>>153771583
Uninstall MadVR. Download the latest MadVR. Install that.

>>153770341
that's a myth anon

>>153770399
Nah, depends on the show and releases.

>>153771935
Jesus I was using a 5 year old version of KCP.

>>153772714
Nothing wrong with sticking to something that works.

>>153772714
You're going to want to check for MadVR updates frequently in the short term future, as NGU keeps getting better.

>>153755308
Unless you have third world internet there isn't any reason to download 720p over 1080p ever.

>>153768887
>>153768732
>>153759876
>>153759735
are people really this fucking new

>>153755308
>thats questions. regards, question chitanda.

Yeah it is let me show you a screenshot comparison

>>153773413
Use punctuation.

>>153773484
No

>>153759005
This show was gorgeous and so sharp but there was barely any animation, not a bad thing but I wonder if drawing bigger images can be a detriment to that.

test

>>153774258
Is image posting fucked for anybody else?

Just updated some stuff but the choppiness I've been experiencing hasn't fixed itself.

Also how do I stop making it use my GPU? I'm pretty sure I got hardware acceleration turned off everywhere.

>>153774265
Test.

>>153774265
It's been like that site-wide for a while.

>>153775073
Fuck off back where you came from.

>>153755975
Hello person born after 1995.

>>153773961
It was just a cheapo SoL

>>153775070
I just need to post one image. I can't go to work before that.
I guess I'll have to call in sick.

>>153756859
I actually know both languages and this is bullshit.

>>153759150
I live in Japan. You use a paid VPN and don't seed. Problem solved.

>>153770341
30 fps per eye

>>153755890
>streaming your opinions
>replying to old posts

Shit.

>>153758669
more pee is always prettier
the question is just whether all the extra pee is worth the increase in filesize (and thus the longer download as well)

In the case of HorribleSubs/Crunchyroll, and this was years ago that I read this so may not be the case anymore, but I remember reading that all of the lower res versions are simply downscaled from the 1080p version anyway, so you're only getting fucked over twice if you go for the 720p even if the 1080p is an upscale. Basically process went like:

Receive masters from studio in whatever format was available
Convert to 1080p version, upscaling if necessary
Downscale 1080p version into 720p, 480p, etc

So if you download the 720p you're just getting a downscale of an upscale, and then upscaling it a second time if you watch in fullscreen (and if you watch anime in windowed something is wrong with you) which seems decidedly worse than just biting the bullet and watching the 1080p version. Better an upscale than an upscale of a downscale of an upscale no?

Again, this is based on old information so don't know how true it is now, but anyway unless you live in somewhere with really shitty internet or something not much reason to opt for the smaller versions these days. Haven't seen too many cases where the 1080p looks demonstrably worse than the 720p upscaled to 1080p.

>I hate upscales!

>Proceeds to full-screen a 720 rip on a 1080+ monitor

>>153773248
many people in first-world countries (e.g. Canada, Australia, rural areas in US) do in fact have third world tier internet

>>153777030
All of the TV broadcasts are also 1080p, so 720p overall is just the poorfag's choice.

>>153777047
I wonder how many of those are just idiots who never upgraded their routers to v3-whatever it's called.

>>153755308
Yes

>>153755750
That smudge is revolting.

>>153777069
Australia is just actual trash in terms of internet speed. Other places maybe.

Government's cucked our entire country saying, "Even if we provided faster internet nobody will use it anyway."

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>>153755308
>Equipment
No, 4k is starting to come down in price and 1080 is going to be on its way out soon.
>Media
It's usually worth getting the highest res possible, shit's a visual medium fampai. Probably not worth it if the animation is trash, though.